Re: MAC versus PC gamma/color perception (and Lightroom)

2008-09-09 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Ann,

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:48:37 -0400, ann sanfedele wrote:

So prune them down to about 50 , Jan... :)

Well, I'll keep this one at this size, since its main purpose 
is documenting my trip (they are 285 out of 2280 shots :-)

However, I do plan to create a Best of the West gallery where
I will pick the best ones from this and some of the other galleries.

the colors look fine on my dell dimentions c521

OK, thanks for checking ...

It is also just about my favorite part of the country 

Indeed. I have been there about ten times over the last 15 years,
and there is still a lot more to explore :-)

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Re: buying digital camera on-line

2008-09-09 Thread Cotty
On 8/9/08, CheekyGeek, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nobody has mentioned gray market stuff yet, but even reputable
dealers can and will sell NON-U.S. Warranty stuff cheaper than the
U.S. Warranty stuff. Not a problem, unless there's a problem. Then
you'll have to send it off to Timbuktu for warranty work. If you see a
price that seems to good to be true, see if it carries a U.S.
Warranty.

Unless of course you do not live in the US.

'My God, people *don't* ??

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Re: PESO - Sand Shadows

2008-09-09 Thread Cotty
On 8/9/08, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

Taken at the start of a recent week spent in the Upper Peninsula of
Michigan, along the shore of Lake Superior.

Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

K20D, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, f8.0 @ 1/100 sec, ISO 100, handheld.

Comments appreciated.

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OT: American Bottom Archaeology

2008-09-09 Thread Bob W
...and other wacky titles:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7598000/7598964.stm

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RE: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of you across thepond

2008-09-09 Thread Bob W
Marie-France Garaud. Stood against Mitterand in 1981. Right of centre,
Gaullist.

Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of ann sanfedele
 Sent: 09 September 2008 03:53
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of 
 you across thepond
 
 One of my Paris shots from 1981... Does anyone know who she is?
 
 
 http://tinyurl.com/58urxr
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2538645_CM59k/1/145920379_MW
 fAr#360442116_gh5Mk-L-LB
 
 
 second peso:
 an oldie I dug up while looking for something else... just 
 another sign shot
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/5908739_3pLhP#367578588_g6PKk-L-LB
 
 sorry I'm so un-communicative these days, guys.
 
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External power source for K10D/K20D, anyone?

2008-09-09 Thread AlunFoto
Gang,

I've recently dabbled into night photography with exposure times
longer that 30s, using the B setting. Whenever I lock the shutter
open, I start worrying about the batteries running out of juice.

So I have a couple of questions that I hope someone in this
enlightened forum knows the answer to:

1. How long exposures can one hope to get from a fully charged battery
for either K10D or K20D (I own both)?

2. With the vertical grip attached, will the camera switch from one
battery to the other during exposure if needed?

3. Has anyone made a DIY external power source for their camera, or
have any web pointers?

Thanks,
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Re: External power source for K10D/K20D, anyone?

2008-09-09 Thread David Savage
2008/9/9 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Gang,

 I've recently dabbled into night photography with exposure times
 longer that 30s, using the B setting. Whenever I lock the shutter
 open, I start worrying about the batteries running out of juice.


 So I have a couple of questions that I hope someone in this
 enlightened forum knows the answer to:

 1. How long exposures can one hope to get from a fully charged battery
 for either K10D or K20D (I own both)?

In my experience with the K10D 3-5 exposures of around 20 min each (in
camera noise reduction disabled on the K10D). The difference in range
is because I use cheap 3rd party spare batteries  they don't seem to
last as long.

I haven't tried any really long exposures with the K20D due to the
fact that you can't turn off NR.

 2. With the vertical grip attached, will the camera switch from one
 battery to the other during exposure if needed?

Yes.

 3. Has anyone made a DIY external power source for their camera, or
 have any web pointers?

Not I. But I'm sure someone has. :-)

Dave

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Re: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of you across the pond

2008-09-09 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/09/09 Tue AM 02:52:34 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of you across the
   pond
 
 One of my Paris shots from 1981... Does anyone know who she is?
 
 
 http://tinyurl.com/58urxr
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2538645_CM59k/1/145920379_MWfAr#360442116_gh5Mk-L-LB


Looks like the beautiful Mme. Cresson, who was kind enough to hand me about 
£250,000 between 1994 and 97.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/255053.stm

 
 
 second peso:
 an oldie I dug up while looking for something else... just another sign shot
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/5908739_3pLhP#367578588_g6PKk-L-LB
 
 sorry I'm so un-communicative these days, guys.
 
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Re: Gmail and the PDML

2008-09-09 Thread Bong Manayon
Actually...I can't remember :-) but as Boris said...it works.

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 Do you have it set up to show your own post.

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Re: buying digital camera on-line

2008-09-09 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/09/09 Tue AM 06:37:05 GMT
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: buying digital camera on-line
 
 On 8/9/08, CheekyGeek, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Nobody has mentioned gray market stuff yet, but even reputable
 dealers can and will sell NON-U.S. Warranty stuff cheaper than the
 U.S. Warranty stuff. Not a problem, unless there's a problem. Then
 you'll have to send it off to Timbuktu for warranty work. If you see a
 price that seems to good to be true, see if it carries a U.S.
 Warranty.
 
 Unless of course you do not live in the US.
 
 'My God, people *don't* ??

You could hardly call them _people_.


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Re: External power source for K10D/K20D, anyone?

2008-09-09 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 3. Has anyone made a DIY external power source for their camera, or
 have any web pointers?

The AC adaptor, D-AC50, plus a 12V battery and inverter would cover most needs. 
 This one needs a separate battery http://www.toolbank.com/p/POL37901 but you 
can buy them as one-piece units.  Maybe a separate one would be better, as you 
could tailor the size of battery to the distance needed to carry it.


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Re: buying digital camera on-line

2008-09-09 Thread AlunFoto
2008/9/9 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 8/9/08, CheekyGeek, discombobulated, unleashed:
 Nobody has mentioned gray market stuff yet, but even reputable
 dealers can and will sell NON-U.S. Warranty stuff cheaper than the
 U.S. Warranty stuff. Not a problem, unless there's a problem. Then
 you'll have to send it off to Timbuktu for warranty work. If you see a
 price that seems to good to be true, see if it carries a U.S.
 Warranty.

 Unless of course you do not live in the US.

 'My God, people *don't* ??

 You could hardly call them _people_.

Not an abstract people but people one meets and works with. :-)

Jostein


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Re: PESO -- Morning Mist

2008-09-09 Thread Jack Davis
Nice mood! Works well, Mike.

Jack


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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 8:38 PM
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2008/09/08/morning-mist/
 
 A few friends and I took a post-Labour Day camping trip to
 Drumheller,  
 Alberta this past weekend. It was a great time; good
 friends, good  
 weather, and some drinks. I woke up early on Saturday
 (despite being  
 awake late on Friday) to a heavy fog over the Red Deer
 River where we  
 were camped.
 
 If you look closely, you can find a spiderweb that I
 didn't notice  
 until processing the image.
 
 K10D, DA21, etc...
 
 
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Re: PESO - Impressionist

2008-09-09 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks for all of the kind comments on this.  Seems as if I should spend
a bit more time on my older images - maybe there are others that I
dismissed too quickly.  

Ken - I thought about cropping out the light streak but I think a crop
spoils the shape of the tree.  Thanks for the suggestion.


Cheers

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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:08:56 -0400, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
  Worth the effort?
 
 Sure, although I'd crop out the horizontal light streak in the lower half
 of 
 the image.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Subject: PESO - Impressionist
 
 
  Hi all
 
  Not quite sure about this.  I came across it while looking back though
  some older images.  It dates from 2006.
 
  I remember thinking it might make an interesting image when I took the
  photo but wasn't all that impressed by the result.  Looking at it again
  I thought there might be a picture trying to get out so I did a bit of
  tonal adjustment and this is the result:
 
  http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/97282/Impressionist.html
 
 
  Worth the effort?
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of you across thepond

2008-09-09 Thread ann sanfedele
Gold star for you!
thanks, Bob

I had Marie in my feeble brain  and wasn't even sure I had that 
part right... right... all puns intended

ann

Bob W wrote:

Marie-France Garaud. Stood against Mitterand in 1981. Right of centre,
Gaullist.

Bob 

  

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Subject: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of 
you across thepond

One of my Paris shots from 1981... Does anyone know who she is?


http://tinyurl.com/58urxr

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2538645_CM59k/1/145920379_MW
fAr#360442116_gh5Mk-L-LB


second peso:
an oldie I dug up while looking for something else... just 
another sign shot

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/5908739_3pLhP#367578588_g6PKk-L-LB

sorry I'm so un-communicative these days, guys.

ann




  




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Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread Leon Altoff
Hi All,

Does anyone have any news on the DA* 60-250?  It's been on the way for 
so long now I'm beginning to think it's vaporware.

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Re: PESO -- Morning Mist

2008-09-09 Thread Brian Walters
Well worth the early rise.

Actually the image is also a useful test of monitor calibration.  I had
to look very hard to see the spider web on my uncalibrated Linux system
but it was more apparent on my better calibrated Windows system.



Cheers

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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:38:51 -0600, Mike Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2008/09/08/morning-mist/
 
 A few friends and I took a post-Labour Day camping trip to Drumheller,  
 Alberta this past weekend. It was a great time; good friends, good  
 weather, and some drinks. I woke up early on Saturday (despite being  
 awake late on Friday) to a heavy fog over the Red Deer River where we  
 were camped.
 
 If you look closely, you can find a spiderweb that I didn't notice  
 until processing the image.
 
 K10D, DA21, etc...
 
 
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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread AlunFoto
Pentax Norway recently guessed probably not until November. :-(

Jostein

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 Does anyone have any news on the DA* 60-250?  It's been on the way for
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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread David Savage
They've been concentrating on the development of the K20D.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread Leon Altoff
Thanks Jostein.  I'd like it when I'm in Norway, but I'd prefer to buy 
it somewhere cheaper before hand.  I'll hope for early November.

  Leon

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AlunFoto wrote:
 Pentax Norway recently guessed probably not until November. :-(
 
 Jostein
 
 2008/9/9 Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Re: PESO - Sand Shadow

2008-09-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice indeed.  It has a great sense of mood.

On 9/8/08, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your eye, the composition, DOF and exposure all excellent.

 Jack


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 Taken at the start of a recent week spent in the Upper
 Peninsula of
 Michigan, along the shore of Lake Superior.

 Check out
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 K20D, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, f8.0 @ 1/100 sec, ISO
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Re: PESO -- Morning Mist

2008-09-09 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 8-Sep-08, at 9:46 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 Nice catch Mike. If it were mine I'd crop  out the sun, leaving just  
 the far
 shoreline in the background.


Thanks, Ken.  I've got a few other photos from varying angles.  I'll  
see what I have without the sun.

Mike



 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2008/09/08/morning-mist/

 A few friends and I took a post-Labour Day camping trip to  
 Drumheller,
 Alberta this past weekend. It was a great time; good friends, good
 weather, and some drinks. I woke up early on Saturday (despite being
 awake late on Friday) to a heavy fog over the Red Deer River where we
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 If you look closely, you can find a spiderweb that I didn't notice
 until processing the image.

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Re: PESO -- Morning Mist

2008-09-09 Thread David Savage
Very nice work Mike.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/9/9 Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2008/09/08/morning-mist/

 A few friends and I took a post-Labour Day camping trip to Drumheller,
 Alberta this past weekend. It was a great time; good friends, good
 weather, and some drinks. I woke up early on Saturday (despite being
 awake late on Friday) to a heavy fog over the Red Deer River where we
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 K10D, DA21, etc...

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Re: PESO - Wolfpaw and Roger on the Job

2008-09-09 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:36 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Excellent shot Franks.

 Really like the angle and the dof on this one. Just enough of the sign
 to see what is going on here.

Thanks, Dave!

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

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Re: PESO -- Morning Mist

2008-09-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Lovely mood. Excellent shot.
Paul
On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:24 AM, David Savage wrote:

 Very nice work Mike.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 2008/9/9 Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2008/09/08/morning-mist/

 A few friends and I took a post-Labour Day camping trip to  
 Drumheller,
 Alberta this past weekend. It was a great time; good friends, good
 weather, and some drinks. I woke up early on Saturday (despite being
 awake late on Friday) to a heavy fog over the Red Deer River where we
 were camped.

 If you look closely, you can find a spiderweb that I didn't notice
 until processing the image.

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Re: PESO -- Morning Mist

2008-09-09 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2008/09/08/morning-mist/

 A few friends and I took a post-Labour Day camping trip to Drumheller,
 Alberta this past weekend. It was a great time; good friends, good
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 If you look closely, you can find a spiderweb that I didn't notice
 until processing the image.

 K10D, DA21, etc...


That's beautiful, Mike!

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Re: PESO - Sand Shadows

2008-09-09 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Taken at the start of a recent week spent in the Upper Peninsula of
 Michigan, along the shore of Lake Superior.

 Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 K20D, 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, f8.0 @ 1/100 sec, ISO 100, handheld.

Beautiful composition.

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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/9/08, Leon Altoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

Thanks Jostein.  I'd like it when I'm in Norway, but I'd prefer to buy
it somewhere cheaper before hand.  I'll hope for early November.

Yeah you stinky fish eater.

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Re: FS: Pentax FA 28mm f/2.8 AL

2008-09-09 Thread David J Brooks
Mark.

Lens just arrived. No duty of Ontario taxes. Whoo Hoo.

Looks good, i;ll try it later, as i'm off in the bus very shortly.

Front cap was on, but no rear cap.

Dave

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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread David J Brooks
Well, i had hoped it would be available BEFORE my show season was
over, but not to be.

Oh well.

Dave

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:10 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pentax Norway recently guessed probably not until November. :-(

 Jostein

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 Hi All,

 Does anyone have any news on the DA* 60-250?  It's been on the way for
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Mac, PC, and portable external drive

2008-09-09 Thread Rick Womer
Okay, computer guys, I have a question:

I have 
- an iMac (G5 PPC) at home, on which I do most of my photo work;
- an HP laptop (running XP) for work, on which I would like to do photo work 
while traveling;
- a 250 GB portable external hard drive, which has been connected to the Mac as 
a backup drive.

My Winblows machine does not acknowledge the external drive's existence.

Is there a way to have read/write access to the external drive from both the 
Mac and the PC? (not at the same time, of course...)

Cheers,

Rick


  

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Re: Mac, PC, and portable external drive

2008-09-09 Thread David J Brooks
Same boat as you Rick, only i have 1 on the PC not for the Mac.

Godders showed me how to erase a new drive in mac utilities and set it
up for pc and mac, but i know thats not what your asking.:-0

I'll follow this one closly

Dave

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, computer guys, I have a question:

 I have
 - an iMac (G5 PPC) at home, on which I do most of my photo work;
 - an HP laptop (running XP) for work, on which I would like to do photo work 
 while traveling;
 - a 250 GB portable external hard drive, which has been connected to the Mac 
 as a backup drive.

 My Winblows machine does not acknowledge the external drive's existence.

 Is there a way to have read/write access to the external drive from both the 
 Mac and the PC? (not at the same time, of course...)

 Cheers,

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Re: Mac, PC, and portable external drive

2008-09-09 Thread Scott Loveless
Rick Womer wrote:
 Okay, computer guys, I have a question:
 
 I have - an iMac (G5 PPC) at home, on which I do most of my photo
 work; - an HP laptop (running XP) for work, on which I would like to
 do photo work while traveling; - a 250 GB portable external hard
 drive, which has been connected to the Mac as a backup drive.
 
 My Winblows machine does not acknowledge the external drive's
 existence.

Does it not even acknowledge that you've connected the device, or can it 
not read the drive?  If it doesn't even see that you've plugged it in, 
you might need a driver, but I'm guessing this isn't the problem.

 Is there a way to have read/write access to the external drive from
 both the Mac and the PC? (not at the same time, of course...)

It sounds like your drive may be formatted with a file system that 
windows doesn't recognize.  Probably your best bet would be to get 
everything off that drive (dump it onto your Mac) and then repartition 
the external drive with one of those horrible file systems that Windoze 
can actually read, like FAT32 or NTFS.  Your Mac can read either of 
those.  The drive manufacturer's web site probably has specifics.

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Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.  
Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get awkward  
when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device called a  
Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy  
something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does  
anyone know of a commercially available two-camera support rig?
Paul

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RE: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread Bob W
I use a thin (1) Domke strap on each camera. Being blessed with 2
shoulders, each being more than 1 wide and approximately parallel
with the ground, that's where I carry the cameras. When I want to use
one of the cameras I transfer it to my neck, which lies conveniently
at about the midpoint between my shoulders. 

It's as if somehow we were intelligently designed to carry 2 cameras.

Harnesses and Y-straps sound to me like product manufacturers' overly
complex solutions.

Bob 

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 Sent: 09 September 2008 20:33
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 Subject: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???
 
 I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.

 Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get 
 awkward  
 when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device 
 called a  
 Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy  
 something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does

 anyone know of a commercially available two-camera support rig?
 Paul


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Re: Mac, PC, and portable external drive

2008-09-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Presuming it is a USB 2 drive ... on Windows ...
-- Be sure you have the correct driver installed for it, if it needs  
one. 
-- Be sure your computer's USB port supplies enough power to run it or  
have an external power supply for it. 

Once you're sure of those two things:

Mac OS X can read and write to FAT32 volumes, which are also directly  
accessible to Windows XP. The built-in Windows XP disk utility will  
not format a FAT32 volume that large but Mac OS X's Disk Utility  
application will.

- Copy all the data off the drive to some other location.
- Run Disk Utility (in the /Applications/Utilities folder)
- Select the drive
- Choose the Partition tab
- Select the file system (ms dos, IIRC) with the popup menu
- Set it for one partition
- Click the erase button and confirm it.

Once done the volume on that drive should be read/writeable on both  
Mac OS X and Windows XP, presuming the two things mentioned at the top  
are good.

Godfrey

On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Okay, computer guys, I have a question:

 I have
 - an iMac (G5 PPC) at home, on which I do most of my photo work;
 - an HP laptop (running XP) for work, on which I would like to do  
 photo work while traveling;
 - a 250 GB portable external hard drive, which has been connected to  
 the Mac as a backup drive.

 My Winblows machine does not acknowledge the external drive's  
 existence.

 Is there a way to have read/write access to the external drive from  
 both the Mac and the PC? (not at the same time, of course...)


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Re: Mac, PC, and portable external drive

2008-09-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 Is there a way to have read/write access to the external drive from
 both the Mac and the PC? (not at the same time, of course...)

 It sounds like your drive may be formatted with a file system that
 windows doesn't recognize.  Probably your best bet would be to get
 everything off that drive (dump it onto your Mac) and then repartition
 the external drive with one of those horrible file systems that  
 Windoze
 can actually read, like FAT32 or NTFS.  Your Mac can read either of
 those.  The drive manufacturer's web site probably has specifics.

Mac OS X can read both NTFS and FAT32, but it can only write to FAT32.
Windows XP's utilities will not format a 250G volume as FAT32, only  
NTFS.

So as I wrote in my previous email, don't format the drive with  
Windows ... Format it with Mac OS X's Disk Utility and you'll be  
fine. :-)

Godfrey


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Re: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
When I'm carrying two cameras at an event, I have them in a shoulder  
bag big enough to handle both cameras with the lenses I'm going to use  
on them, and a hand strap on each one. That way, as I need one or the  
other, I just drop the one that I'm putting down back into its slot in  
the bag, and pick up the other one.

Godfrey

On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.
 Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get awkward
 when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device called a
 Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy
 something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does
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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread AlunFoto
2008/9/9 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 9/9/08, Leon Altoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

Thanks Jostein.  I'd like it when I'm in Norway, but I'd prefer to buy
it somewhere cheaper before hand.  I'll hope for early November.

 Yeah you stinky fish eater.

hmm...

You mean, fish as in mackerel? :-)


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Re: buying digital camera on-line

2008-09-09 Thread Toralf Lund
Bob Sullivan wrote:
 I've dealt with BH with excellent results at good prices.
 I bought my *ist DS at www.buydig.com at a good price when new,
 also several Pentax point  shoot models.  I'd recommend them.
 KEH is a good source of used stuff, but not cheap.
   
It's been mentioned here before, but I think sometimes they are in fact 
cheap - because items they rate as being in bargain condition (and 
price accordingly) can actually be in a very good condition.

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Re: OT: American Bottom Archaeology

2008-09-09 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...and other wacky titles:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7598000/7598964.stm


Hard to pick a favourite, but I can't help but think that Reusing Old
Graves and People Who Don't Know They're Dead: How They Attach
Themselves to Unsuspecting Bystanders and What to Do About It could
somehow be used in tandem.

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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/9/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

You mean, fish as in mackerel? :-)

Was it blessed?

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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/9/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

You mean, fish as in mackerel? :-)

 Was it blessed?

As in holy mackerel?

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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/9/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

As in holy mackerel?

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RE: OT: American Bottom Archaeology

2008-09-09 Thread Bob W
This has always been one of my favourite titles, ever since I found it
while working at the British Library 30 years ago:
http://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9780521316231

I'm thrilled to discover that the author, Salaman, pays due hommage to
M. Parmentier (who else!) who wrote extensively about the delicious
tuber in his Traité sur la culture et les usages des pommes de terre,
de la patate, et du topinambour.

Here are some wonderful quotes:

It was during the Seven Years War that Parmentier first met the
potato

In spite of a decree forbidding eating the potato for fear of
contracting leprosy, Parmentier pushed to introduce it into the
Frenchman’s diet

Bob 

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 Subject: Re: OT: American Bottom Archaeology
 
 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...and other wacky titles:
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7598000/7598964.stm
 
 
 Hard to pick a favourite, but I can't help but think that Reusing
Old
 Graves and People Who Don't Know They're Dead: How They Attach
 Themselves to Unsuspecting Bystanders and What to Do About It could
 somehow be used in tandem.


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Re: buying digital camera on-line

2008-09-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You can check the sellers at epinions.com.  If the price seems very low 
 it's too good to be true.  Most of them are bait and switch scamers just 
 like they were in the old days, except now they're electronic..

I wouldn't put a lot of faith in epinions. Several locations notorious 
for bait and switch rate quite highly there. They don't vet the ratings 
to screen out the shills.

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Re: Mac, PC, and portable external drive

2008-09-09 Thread Alex
There are also software/drivers that you can install that allows
Windows to read the Mac HFS+ file system. MacWindows.com has a list:

http://www.macwindows.com/disks2.html

Alex L.
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Re: buying digital camera on-line

2008-09-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:27:25 -0500, CheekyGeek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
  Nobody has mentioned gray market stuff yet, but even reputable
  dealers can and will sell NON-U.S. Warranty stuff cheaper than the
  U.S. Warranty stuff. Not a problem, unless there's a problem. Then
  you'll have to send it off to Timbuktu for warranty work. If you see a
  price that seems to good to be true, see if it carries a U.S.
  Warranty.
  
 
 Assuming, of course, that you're located in the US.:-) 
 
 Good general advice, though.

So how does gray market work outside the US?

If it's NON-USA warranty here, do they offer USA-only warranties there? ;-D

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Re: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
That doesn't work for me. My shoulders are massive and round. Can't  
keep a strap on them. I currently use two straps around my neck.  
Works. But not well.
Paul
On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Bob W wrote:

 I use a thin (1) Domke strap on each camera. Being blessed with 2
 shoulders, each being more than 1 wide and approximately parallel
 with the ground, that's where I carry the cameras. When I want to use
 one of the cameras I transfer it to my neck, which lies conveniently
 at about the midpoint between my shoulders.

 It's as if somehow we were intelligently designed to carry 2 cameras.

 Harnesses and Y-straps sound to me like product manufacturers' overly
 complex solutions.

 Bob

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 Subject: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

 I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.

 Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get
 awkward
 when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device
 called a
 Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy
 something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does

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Re: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks, but I can't use a shoulder bag. As I mentioned in another  
post, my shoulders are like pork shoulders: big and round. Straps  
slide off.  I could use a belt supported bag, but that gets in my  
way. I need a comfortable harness of some sort. I may have to make  
one. In the meantime, I'll continue with two straps around the neck.  
I am using hand grips whenl shooting. I've come to like them.
Paul
On Sep 9, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 When I'm carrying two cameras at an event, I have them in a shoulder
 bag big enough to handle both cameras with the lenses I'm going to use
 on them, and a hand strap on each one. That way, as I need one or the
 other, I just drop the one that I'm putting down back into its slot in
 the bag, and pick up the other one.

 Godfrey

 On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.
 Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get awkward
 when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device called a
 Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy
 something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does
 anyone know of a commercially available two-camera support rig?

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Re: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread ann sanfedele
Back in the day when I could lift more than one camera and anticipated 
needing quick switches between focal length or type of film
 I had them both around my neck  with wide and soft
straps - one camera had the strap adjusted longer than the other so the 
lined up nicely one above the other
but not touching the camera bag strap was on my shoulder and the 
waistband of it around my waist for support.

It was easy to go from one to the other... sometimes the lower one was 
tucked into the waistband of my bag.

Don't know if this helps or not... I couldn't use Bob W's solution as 
one of my shoulders is too slanty and things
always fall off it.

ann

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.  
Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get awkward  
when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device called a  
Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy  
something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does  
anyone know of a commercially available two-camera support rig?
Paul

  




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RE: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of you across the pond

2008-09-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Marie-France Garaud. Stood against Mitterand in 1981. Right of centre,
 Gaullist.
 
 Bob 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of ann sanfedele
  Sent: 09 September 2008 03:53
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  Subject: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of 
  you across thepond
  
  One of my Paris shots from 1981... Does anyone know who she is?
  
  
  http://tinyurl.com/58urxr
  

If you're talking about the woman's legs ...

It's a movie poster for Brian De Palma's 1980 film Dressed To Kill 
with Michael Caine, Angie Dickinson and Nancy Allen.

You can see credits for Michael ..., Angie Dicki ...  Nancy 
All... in the image. Knowing the photo is from 1981, a Google search on 
Angie Dickinson turned up a Wikipedia entry that indicates she appeared 
in this 1980 film. Following a link to film itself led to an article 
with a movie poster with those legs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Dressed_to_kill.jpg

Based on the plot synopsis, the legs could be Michael Caine (in drag), 
Angie Dickinson or Nancy Allen.

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Re: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of you across the pond

2008-09-09 Thread ann sanfedele
John -- Bob had it right --
My bad for sending wrong tinyurl  -- though the long link, below it, was 
correct.

here is the photo in question
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2538645_CM59k#360442116_gh5Mk-A-LB

I only recently added that particular photo to the photo essay on line...
Just couldn't pull her whole name out of my head.  I've since updated the
caption to include her name

The legs were never in question... although I suspect they are just a 
model's legs,
not those of the real character in Dressed to Kill  - but until I linked 
back to my
smugmug site with the tiny url below I wondered why in the world you were
going on about the other photo :-)

ann

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Marie-France Garaud. Stood against Mitterand in 1981. Right of centre,
Gaullist.

Bob 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of ann sanfedele
Sent: 09 September 2008 03:53
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Subject: two PESOS - and a question about one - for those of 
you across thepond

One of my Paris shots from 1981... Does anyone know who she is?


http://tinyurl.com/58urxr




If you're talking about the woman's legs ...

It's a movie poster for Brian De Palma's 1980 film Dressed To Kill 
with Michael Caine, Angie Dickinson and Nancy Allen.

You can see credits for Michael ..., Angie Dicki ...  Nancy 
All... in the image. Knowing the photo is from 1981, a Google search on 
Angie Dickinson turned up a Wikipedia entry that indicates she appeared 
in this 1980 film. Following a link to film itself led to an article 
with a movie poster with those legs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Dressed_to_kill.jpg

Based on the plot synopsis, the legs could be Michael Caine (in drag), 
Angie Dickinson or Nancy Allen.

  




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Re: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread Joseph McAllister
When two are needed, I've always adjusted my straps to over / under  
configurations, one above the other. If I wear my photo vest, I use  
the 'D' rings to attach the upper camera with the short quick release  
straps that came with the vest. And let the tele hang on the bottom,  
so it won't be banging up the lower camera, and to impress the  
girls.  :-)

Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian

On Sep 9, 2008, at 14:21 , Bob replied:

 It's as if somehow we were intelligently designed to carry 2 cameras.

 Harnesses and Y-straps sound to me like product manufacturers' overly
 complex solutions.

 Bob

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
 Sent: 09 September 2008 20:33
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

 I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.

 Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get
 awkward
 when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device
 called a
 Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy
 something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does

 anyone know of a commercially available two-camera support rig?
 Paul




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Re: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread George Sinos
I know I've seen a y-strap somewhere, but I ran across this
arrangement while looking for it.  Pretty creative.

http://blog.tonyschreiber.com/?p=86

-gs-
http://georgesphotos.net

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.
 Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get awkward
 when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device called a
 Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy
 something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does
 anyone know of a commercially available two-camera support rig?
 Paul

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Re: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread George Sinos
I knew I saw this.  It looked like a good idea, but not for two
camers.  Also, not for me.  Too much padding.  I'm not talking about
the padding on the strap.

http://figitalrevolution.com/y-strap/

-gs-

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been looking for a better way to carry two cameras at an event.
 Currently, I'm just using two Tamrac straps. But that can get awkward
 when I have to switch cameras. I've seen mention of a device called a
 Y-strap and some instructions for making one, but I want to buy
 something. A harness style device would seem to be one answer. Does
 anyone know of a commercially available two-camera support rig?
 Paul

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Re: Y-Strap or other two camera strap???

2008-09-09 Thread Doug Franklin
George Sinos wrote:
 I knew I saw this.  It looked like a good idea, but not for two
 camers.  Also, not for me.  Too much padding.  I'm not talking about
 the padding on the strap.
 
 http://figitalrevolution.com/y-strap/

On most (all?) of the pages of that site, look on the right (you might 
need to scroll down) and you'll see a box titled Target Practice. 
If you follow that link, the page has a sample image to test your 
printer and its ICC profile, and brief instructions on interpreting the 
results.  I need to clean and unclog my Epson 820, because I haven't 
printed for a couple of months.  But I'll be interested to hear about 
the results anyone around here gets in trying it.

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Re: Where is the DA*60-250?

2008-09-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty wrote:
 On 9/9/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 As in holy mackerel?
 

 You beat Mr Alling to it Frank.
   
I would never swim so low, but I do see floundering in your future.
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Re: buying digital camera on-line

2008-09-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Sure they don't filter out the shills, but if 1 in 5 posts on a seller 
are negative it's a good indicator even if the shills try to overpower 
the real signal. 

John Sessoms wrote:
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   
 You can check the sellers at epinions.com.  If the price seems very low 
 it's too good to be true.  Most of them are bait and switch scamers just 
 like they were in the old days, except now they're electronic..
 

 I wouldn't put a lot of faith in epinions. Several locations notorious 
 for bait and switch rate quite highly there. They don't vet the ratings 
 to screen out the shills.

   


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Re: OT: American Bottom Archaeology

2008-09-09 Thread jtainter
Sorry to spoil the fun. It refers to the bottomland alluvial region around East 
St. Louis, Illinois, location of some major prehistoric archaeological sites.

Joe



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Re: OT: American Bottom Archaeology

2008-09-09 Thread David Savage
Bummer.

2008/9/10 jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Sorry to spoil the fun. It refers to the bottomland alluvial region around 
 East St. Louis, Illinois, location of some major prehistoric archaeological 
 sites.

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Re: OT: American Bottom Archaeology

2008-09-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Spoilsport.

jtainter wrote:
 Sorry to spoil the fun. It refers to the bottomland alluvial region around 
 East St. Louis, Illinois, location of some major prehistoric archaeological 
 sites.

 Joe



   


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Re: two PESOS - and a question about one ...

2008-09-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 John -- Bob had it right --
 My bad for sending wrong tinyurl  -- though the long link, below it, was 
 correct.
 
 here is the photo in question
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2538645_CM59k#360442116_gh5Mk-A-LB

That one doesn't take me to any photo at all. I get the blurb for The 
First Time I Saw Paris with the explanation how they're scanned Tri-x 
from a Pentax KX, ... and links to Buy this photo, multiple photos  
view cart

... but no photo.  :-(

Given all the to-do over the current French President's mistress (now 
wife) in their campaign last year, I wondered if perhaps the black 
stockings  high heels were the style of French political advertising.

Be more interesting than anything I've seen for our election.


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OT: VueScan color profiles?

2008-09-09 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
I have upgraded to a new computer with Core 2 Quad Extreme @ 3.33GHz and
8GB of memory running Vista Ultimate x64. Previously I have been using
Silverfast but it does not work anymore for me (no support in Vista
64-bit for my scanner). Yesterday I got the VueScan Pro and have been
playing with it a little and it works fine!

Now to the question. I calibrate my monitor with Spyder3Elite. What
monitor profile should I set in VueScan? If I use the default sRGB as
VueScan monitor profile, I seem to get matching colors with the scanned
image open in Photoshop and the image in prescan or scan window in
Vuescan. Setting any other monitor profile and the matching of the
colors fail. The scans are saved as TIF with embedding ProPhotoRGB
profile and the VueScan is profiled with IT8 targets.

Antti-Pekka


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