Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It (colour version)

2010-08-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 27, 2010, at 7:27 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Color version for me too...
 
 Thanks, Boris, and thanks to everyone else who commented.  Glad you liked it.
 
 I think I prefer the colour, too.

Frank, It seems that you go through periods concentrating on one aspect of 
photography to the exclusion of all else, and not moving on until you've gotten 
very good at what you're working on.  At one point it seemed as if you were 
only interested in subject matter, almost to the exclusion of exposure, focus, 
motion blur. Lately, I've noticed that your work, while retaining the art 
seems to have improved a lot more in the craft. Almost all of your photos 
lately have been sharp, clear, well exposed, and I don't know whether that's 
because you're trying harder for sharpness, or if you're just shooting in 
better light.

I think that a lot of people benefit from shooting in black and white because 
it's one less thing to work on. Rather than worrying about color balance, and 
whether the colors in the shot actually go well together, it's just the light, 
and the composition.  Lately, however, it seems that your work is being held 
back by doing it exclusively in black and white. It seems that a significant 
percentage of your recent shots would be a lot better in color.

I know that you have a knarf does kolor page, but I'd like to see more of 
your work in color.


 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
 
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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-29 Thread mike wilson

Chris Mitchell wrote:

mike wilson wrote:


Sent: 28 August 2010 07:38
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Subject: Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

I will be doing this for Bob and myself no earlier than 48hours from
now.  If anyone else in the UK wants, speak up before then.



Mike - please add me to the UK list. Just so I'm clear, tell me who to pay,
when and how much


OK.  Me, don't know, don't know.

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Re: metering question

2010-08-29 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:09 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:


 I like the first two more than the rest.  How bizarre is that?


Me too.

As to the way I would meter...

I usually meter similar to what Larry suggests.
- Set desire ISO, probably 400
- Set for spot meter, manual mode
- Set desire A for the desire DOF
- meter the object with the green button
But instead of chimping, try to use zone system :)

-Pasvorn

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread mike wilson

Paul Dunderdale wrote:


Crumpets are a North(west) of England thing.  They are made from a yeast batter, and cooked in such 
a way that the upper surface is pitted with holes (from the fermentation).  Mum always says that 
crumpets should be served with an egg in every hole.  She served them with an excess of 
butter (they don't so much soak up more butter as act as a sump (the vertical holes) and a 
lightly poached egg (hence the egg (yolk) in every hole

The crumpets that brave the Irish Sea and arrive at my table are a pale shadow 
of those delectable Crumpets Of My Youth.  I have tried to make my own, but 
haven't yet achieved adequacy.  There are hidden depths to crumpets.  I'm sure 
Cotty would concur.

Paul


Try using sodium bicarbonate instead of yeast.  A blini recipe, using 
ordinary flour instead of bulgur wheat flour, might work.





On 28 Aug 2010, at 23:45, paul stenquist wrote:



So, it's some kind of bun?


Sort of, it's a very moist spongy thick pancake designed to have large
bubble holes, straight out of the toaster lavished with melted butter
and honey they are almost as good as ...


Yes, a crumpet soaks up more butter than an english muffin, and it has a richer 
flavor -- perhaps more egg. All in all, it's superior.
Paul



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Re: metering for film

2010-08-29 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Methinks that with negative film the precision of metering is less important
 than with digital. I am not saying that meter can show you any number, but
 that the tolerance or leeway is more with film than with digital, even if
 you shoot raw. Perhaps, it has to do with the difference in how film and
 sensor react to over and/or underexposure.

I agree with Boris.  Looking at some of Fuji Negative's current data
sheet, it said that you can do up to +3, and down to -1.


 Also, my understanding was (at the time I was shooting film) that if you
 give 'em a roll that is constantly over/under exposed, they might be able to
 compensate for it in a uniform way...


Do you mean like push, and pull?  I don't think labs in a drugstore do that.

 I may be totally wrong on both counts as well...

 Boris

 P.S. I still remember going out with my Voigtlander Perkeo I folder and not
 having much problems with exposure at all. I'd take one reading just before
 I go out with my camera meter (MZ-6) and then set the exposure accordingly.
 Little folder has no meter of its own...


PSS  I think that is the best way. :)

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Re: metering for film

2010-08-29 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/29/2010 10:23 AM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote:

Do you mean like push, and pull?  I don't think labs in a drugstore do that.


Neither. I don't deal with drugstore labs or their equivalent though. 
What I observed (IIRC) is that once they processed the film, they pass 
it through the printing machine that initially does some kind of scan or 
prescan. I mean, they obviously don't print optically with enlarger... 
So this machine, when it sees that the film is over or underdeveloped, 
it tries to compensate. It might yield badly looking prints, but that's 
what I remember anyway.


Boris

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RE: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread Bob W
 
 I thought that a crumpet was the mate of a strumpet.
 

a strumpet is crumpet gone bad




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RE: OT : Bran Everseeking

2010-08-29 Thread Bob W
 On 8/29/2010 5:43 AM, dylyn wrote:
  hi dad/ pdml people i am the son of which he speaks. oops i broke the
  first rule of lurking *hides*
 

Hi, glad to hear your father is on the mend!

 How many lurking rules are there then? ;-)
 

The first rule of lurking is, you do not talk about lurking. 
The second rule of lurking is, you DO NOT talk about lurking.

 Bran, glad to have you back on list. Dear lurker, please take care of your
dad.
 
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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread Alastair Robertson
excelllent!

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I thought that a crumpet was the mate of a strumpet.


 a strumpet is crumpet gone bad




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GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Subash
hi,

it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)

 i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
 three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
 so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
 weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
 immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
 i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
 ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
 f70exr...

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

regards, subash


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Re: OT : Bran Everseeking

2010-08-29 Thread eckinator
2010/8/29 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 The first rule of lurking is, you do not talk about lurking.
 The second rule of lurking is, you DO NOT talk about lurking.

#3: When someone says uncle or cormorant, lurking is over.

Cheers
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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread eckinator
2010/8/29 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com:
 hi,

 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
 ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
 things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
 here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)

  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
  three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
  weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
  immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
  i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
  ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
  f70exr...

 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

Hi Subash
very happy to hear you completed your trip in one piece and had a good
time to boot. I'm still busy going through your gallery but I do have
a quick question:
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510744149263855042 Are
you sure this shows the M62? It looks a bit rough. =P

Cheers
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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Alastair Robertson
wow fantastic - loved the gallery - looked like an epic trip!  Lots of
highlights - will have to try and pick my top 6 and post later
Alastair

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:06 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/8/29 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com:
 hi,

 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
 ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
 things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
 here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)

  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
  three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
  weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
  immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
  i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
  ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
  f70exr...

 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

 Hi Subash
 very happy to hear you completed your trip in one piece and had a good
 time to boot. I'm still busy going through your gallery but I do have
 a quick question:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510744149263855042 Are
 you sure this shows the M62? It looks a bit rough. =P

 Cheers
 Ecke

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/8/10, Paul Dunderdale, discombobulated, unleashed:

those delectable Crumpets Of My Youth.

Mate, just don't get me started!!

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Re: metering question

2010-08-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/8/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

I think flash fill is the obvious answer. You'll rarely find a pro PJ
photographer shooting in daylight without a good flash mounted. It's the
best way to bring light to the foreground.

Like this :-)

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7707074

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread eckinator
2010/8/29 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com:
 hi,
[...]
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#
 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

Totally missed the film ps bit on the first reading of your mail.
Amazed at how small your bags are, you were really packing light.
How/where did you spend nights - I don't see a tent. Did you stay with
people living there? Also, does everyone speak the same dialect along
that route? Did you make the trip with just one puncture? And so on
and so forth. Still looking at your photos.

Cheers
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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/29/2010 11:50 AM, Subash wrote:

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

regards, subash


I think that you had great time and brought back some wonderful memories 
and amazing photos.


Here are few that caught my eye:

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510740857139808450
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510743727756941122
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510745695890373490
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510745301236273570

Boris

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PESO - Moonrise Through the Trees

2010-08-29 Thread frank theriault
Technically far from perfect (although I have to say, personally I
like the noise), I still think it works despite all its shortcomings:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/moonrise-through-trees.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: OT : Bran Everseeking

2010-08-29 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Bran Everseeking
 Many Thanks Doug Et al.

 I have returned home a bit more than a week after leaving.  6 new
 drugs, and three metal stents in my heart are supposed to help keep me
 well.  dietary is pretty much the same as the old diabetic one
 excepting less fat and salt which i had started doing anyway.

 I guess I will be shooting the place where  live as I do the required
 build-up of activity.  I found out My son has been lurking here for a
 bit

 thats it for now as there went through my wrist yesterday

 Thanks again all.

Glad to hear that you're on the road to recovery.  So wonderful to
hear from you!

cheers,
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PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version

2010-08-29 Thread frank theriault
I was thinking this might work better in colour even before Larry's
comment in another thread about my recent use of colour.  I think the
colour version works much better than the BW.  I think that the
suburbs generally work better in colour:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

Here's the BW version for comparison:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

Comments?

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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It (colour version)

2010-08-29 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Aug 27, 2010, at 7:27 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Color version for me too...

 Thanks, Boris, and thanks to everyone else who commented.  Glad you liked it.

 I think I prefer the colour, too.

 Frank, It seems that you go through periods concentrating on one aspect of 
 photography to the exclusion of all else, and not moving on until you've 
 gotten very good at what you're working on.  At one point it seemed as if you 
 were only interested in subject matter, almost to the exclusion of exposure, 
 focus, motion blur. Lately, I've noticed that your work, while retaining the 
 art seems to have improved a lot more in the craft. Almost all of your 
 photos lately have been sharp, clear, well exposed, and I don't know whether 
 that's because you're trying harder for sharpness, or if you're just shooting 
 in better light.

 I think that a lot of people benefit from shooting in black and white because 
 it's one less thing to work on. Rather than worrying about color balance, and 
 whether the colors in the shot actually go well together, it's just the 
 light, and the composition.  Lately, however, it seems that your work is 
 being held back by doing it exclusively in black and white. It seems that a 
 significant percentage of your recent shots would be a lot better in color.

 I know that you have a knarf does kolor page, but I'd like to see more of 
 your work in color.

There's a lot to comment on in your post, but I don't think I'll
answer each and every point.  Much of what you say I agree with, but I
guess my answer is that I really don't think much when I'm shooting.
 Wherever I am, that's what I shoot.  Whatever the results are, that's
what they are.

I don't try for content to the exclusion of other things.  Certain
genres of photography (to me at least) require some things more than
others;  for instance, nature photography really needs sharpness and
colour (there are exceptions of course), so when I'm down by the Lake,
I'm aware of colour and doing my best to keep things sharp (although I
have a long way to go as compared to real nature photogs).

I guess the bottom line is that however my photography may be
evolving, it's not so much a conscious thing as just the way things
go.  Yes, I'm in control and making decisions, but really, I'm just
doing my best to record things around me in a way that conveys where I
am and what I'm feeling.

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Re: PESOs - Paddington Alive

2010-08-29 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I know I should link them together in a gallery, but I was taking it easy
 today, and not shooting narrative. As part of the Fashion Festival,
 Paddington puts in her significant contribution. Then again, it's always a
 fashion festival in paddo

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_nikon/01.htm
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_1conversation/01.htm
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_lucette/01.htm
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_debbiemartha/01.htm

 Actually three quarters on-topic this time. The Pentax 43mm L is such a nice
 lens to use. Don't know why I don't use it more often.

LOVE Conversation - the rest are pretty damned good, too.

Terrific mini-gallery.

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RE: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Bob W
 hi,
 
 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle ride
in
 the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other things that
 needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual here. (has cotty
got
 himself a gmail account yet?) :)
 
  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or  three
 days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
weeks
 and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it  immensely
too. :)
 three of us had planned this ride but finally  i had to do it alone so
couldn't
 take my pentax, had to make do with a  ps. and here is a collection of
 photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji  f70exr...
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#
 
 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..
 
 regards, subash

I'm getting this response:
This web page is not available.

The web page at http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti might be
temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.

I'm very keen to see these pictures!
Bob


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RE: PESO - The Long and the Short of It (colour version)

2010-08-29 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
 Behalf Of frank theriault
[...]
  Wherever I am, that's what I shoot.  Whatever the results are, that's
what
 they are.
 

Mark!

Come one, Frank, can't you be a bit more laid back about it?

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Jack Davis
Very well recorded experience, Sabash! What a satisfying effort that must have 
been.
Thanks for posting.

Jack

--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com
 Subject: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 1:50 AM
 hi,
 
 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back
 from my cycle
 ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with
 other
 things that needed my time. hope things are getting along
 as usual
 here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)
 
  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a
 couple or
  three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit
 optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original
 distance in two
  weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely.
 enjoyed it
  immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but
 finally
  i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to
 make do with a
  ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take
 with  the fuji
  f70exr...
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#
 
 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you
 think..
 
 regards, subash
 
 
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Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version

2010-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the color version better.  The yellow makes the mower stand out
more from the grass, and also makes it look more ornamental.

Dan

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:28 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was thinking this might work better in colour even before Larry's
 comment in another thread about my recent use of colour.  I think the
 colour version works much better than the BW.  I think that the
 suburbs generally work better in colour:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

 Here's the BW version for comparison:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful!  Thanks for sharing this unique experience with us.

Dan

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
 ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
 things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
 here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)

  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
  three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
  weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
  immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
  i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
  ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
  f70exr...

 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

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Re: metering question

2010-08-29 Thread David Savage
I'd spot meter for the skin tone highlights and go down the high contrast route,

The structure and shadows will create some very interesting patterns.

DS

On 28 August 2010 23:13, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I'm going to plung into this project for the next year. I want to photograph
 people under the el tracks downtown.

 I would like to know how folks might meter for this project.

 The 1st 3 photos were taken with the K20D last year, and from the sax player
 on those photos were taken with the K7 this year.  All photos were at ISO
 1600 except the sax player, which was 800.  You can see I've some challanges
 with light and shadow.

 All 7 photos here are *as shot* except for correction to level allignment
 for the K20D shots.

 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/trackstest

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Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version

2010-08-29 Thread Boris Liberman
Frank, I am thinking that in both shots you have too much DOF and that 
pole in the middle of the frame isn't really helping...


To that end, differences between b/w or color treatments look less 
important to me...


Boris


On 8/29/2010 2:28 PM, frank theriault wrote:

I was thinking this might work better in colour even before Larry's
comment in another thread about my recent use of colour.  I think the
colour version works much better than the BW.  I think that the
suburbs generally work better in colour:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

Here's the BW version for comparison:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

Comments?

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Re: PESO - Moonrise Through the Trees

2010-08-29 Thread David J Brooks
Works for me Frank.

How the hell do you guys stay up so late.

Dave

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Technically far from perfect (although I have to say, personally I
 like the noise), I still think it works despite all its shortcomings:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/moonrise-through-trees.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version

2010-08-29 Thread David J Brooks
I think the colour version has a bolder effect to it, but i still like the BW.

Agree the DOF could have been shallower. Any chance of a reshoot.

Dave

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:28 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was thinking this might work better in colour even before Larry's
 comment in another thread about my recent use of colour.  I think the
 colour version works much better than the BW.  I think that the
 suburbs generally work better in colour:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

 Here's the BW version for comparison:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

 Comments?

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent gallery, thanks for sharing.

Good job on the human portrait shots

Dave

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
 ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
 things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
 here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)

  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
  three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
  weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
  immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
  i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
  ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
  f70exr...

 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

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Re: PESO - Moonrise Through the Trees

2010-08-29 Thread Jack Davis
Well chosen composition, Frank.

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO - Moonrise Through the Trees
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 6:45 AM
 Works for me Frank.
 
 How the hell do you guys stay up so late.
 
 Dave
 
 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:12 AM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Technically far from perfect (although I have to say,
 personally I
  like the noise), I still think it works despite all
 its shortcomings:
 
  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/moonrise-through-trees.html
 
  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
  cheers,
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OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread David J Brooks
Am thinking of getting a small PS something i can keep in my pocket
for Erins wedding or the console of my truck. I'll drag my big gear
but would like something small and handy.
Thinking along the lines of the Canon Powershot A series.

Any recommendations. Want to try and keep it under $150-200

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Re: OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am thinking of getting a small PS something i can keep in my pocket
 for Erins wedding or the console of my truck. I'll drag my big gear
 but would like something small and handy.
 Thinking along the lines of the Canon Powershot A series.

 Any recommendations. Want to try and keep it under $150-200

 Dave


Get a new cell phone. Seriously. I've seen very few cheap PS jobs
that are any better cameras than my Palm Pre and the newer phones are
even better as cameras.

-Adam

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Re: I just found a Tamron -F AF 1.4x teleconverter in my stuff

2010-08-29 Thread CheekyGeek
I have no experience with AF teleconverters, but have the MF Adaptall
2 version of both the 2x and 1.4x that I planned to use with my 52B
90mm f2.5 Macro SP. It will do 1:2 by itself and 1:1 with the 2x, so I
believe that means it will do 1:1.5 with the 1.4x.

The main advantage of the 1.4x (to me) is that you are losing only a
stop of light instead of 2 stops with a 2x. Nice to have when that is
a factor.

The Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 will also cover a full 35mm frame, at
least down to about 13mm. That probably makes it about the widest
rectilinear you can put on a film camera.

Need to carve out some time to actually USE all the stuff I've been
accumulating. Your 1.4x to 2x image degradation comparison would be
interesting to do.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I probably got it when I bought someones bag of gear, saw that it was a TC 
 and just tossed it in the drawer without looking at it.

 I just tried it out and it seems to work fine on autofocus.  Does anyone have 
 any experience with one of these? Would it degrade an image less than 
 cropping it by a factor of 1.4?

 Another cool realization I had was that my Sigma 20/1.8 will work just fine 
 on a K1000 body that I've got lying around, and it'll give me a view that is 
 wider, and faster, than my 16-50 on the digital body.  Albeit, that ASA 400 
 film doesn't seem to be nearly as good as ASA 400 on the sensor.

 In any case, it should be fun to play with.

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Re: I just found a Tamron -F AF 1.4x teleconverter in my stuff

2010-08-29 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have no experience with AF teleconverters, but have the MF Adaptall
 2 version of both the 2x and 1.4x that I planned to use with my 52B
 90mm f2.5 Macro SP. It will do 1:2 by itself and 1:1 with the 2x, so I
 believe that means it will do 1:1.5 with the 1.4x.

 The main advantage of the 1.4x (to me) is that you are losing only a
 stop of light instead of 2 stops with a 2x. Nice to have when that is
 a factor.

 The Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 will also cover a full 35mm frame, at
 least down to about 13mm. That probably makes it about the widest
 rectilinear you can put on a film camera.

 Need to carve out some time to actually USE all the stuff I've been
 accumulating. Your 1.4x to 2x image degradation comparison would be
 interesting to do.

 Darren Addy
 Kearney, NE


The Sigma 12-24 f4.5-5.6 remains the widest FF rectilinear in most
mounts (the other option being the Voigtlander Ultra-Wide-Heliar 12mm
f5.6 in LTM, M or F mount). There's also their new 8-16mm version for
APS-C but I doubt that covers FF at any focal length.

Best deal on a real ultra-wide for FF is the Samyang 14mm f2.8, it's
got a bunch of barrel distortion but is extremely sharp (and the
distortion is easily corrected in post). It's available in KA form and
branded as a Rokinon, Bower, Opteka, Falcon, Samyang and IIRC Vivitar
Series 1.

-Adam

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Subash
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:44:00 +0200
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:

  http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

 a quick question:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510744149263855042 Are
 you sure this shows the M62? It looks a bit rough. =P

ok, i had to look up what the M62 was. :) compared to some stretches,
you could say that *was* like a highway.  :)

 Totally missed the film ps bit on the first reading of your mail.
 Amazed at how small your bags are, you were really packing light.
 How/where did you spend nights - I don't see a tent. Did you stay with
 people living there? Also, does everyone speak the same dialect along
 that route? Did you make the trip with just one puncture? And so on
 and so forth. Still looking at your photos.

it wasn't a film ps Ecke but a digital fuji with the small 1/2 exr
sensor. i couldn't get the bags/rack i had planned on getting, this was
all i could get and it was quite enough actually. and no i hadn't taken
the tent. since i had already done this route twice on a motorcycle, i
planned the stops in such a way that i hit some village or other every
night. stayed in cheap tent 'hotels' where they were available and
homestays where there were no hotels. though, as in most other parts
of india, people usually speak 3/4 languages but if one knows hindi
(the main language of north india), one can manage well enough. and
yes, luckily enough, one puncture was all i had...

thanks for looking, regards, subash


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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Subash
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:10:07 +1200
Alastair Robertson kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote:

 wow fantastic - loved the gallery - looked like an epic trip!  Lots of
 highlights - will have to try and pick my top 6 and post later
 Alastair

  http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

thanks for the nice words. look forward to seeing which ones appealed
to you...

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Subash
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:10:42 +0300
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8/29/2010 11:50 AM, Subash wrote:
  http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

 I think that you had great time and brought back some wonderful
 memories and amazing photos.
 
 Here are few that caught my eye:
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510740857139808450
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510743727756941122
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510745695890373490
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510745301236273570

thanks for looking Boris. those are some of my favourites too...

regards, subash

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Subash
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 05:07:37 -0700 (PDT)
Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Very well recorded experience, Sabash! What a satisfying effort that
 must have been. Thanks for posting.

  http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

Jack, Dan and Dave, thanks for looking and the nice words... appreciate
it..

regards, subash

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/8/10, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed:


http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

Totally amazing set of pics - fascinating journey - total respect that
you did it looking at those inclines!

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Re: OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/8/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

Get a new cell phone. Seriously. I've seen very few cheap PS jobs
that are any better cameras than my Palm Pre and the newer phones are
even better as cameras.

Have to say I probably agree. My iPhone 3GS has an average camera on it
and I am constantly surprised at what can be achieved - even shooting video.

That said, my wife has an Optio S6 and it is superb.

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Subash,
Wow, what a trip!...and by bicycle.
Lots of great pictures.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
 ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
 things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
 here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)

  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
  three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
  weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
  immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
  i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
  ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
  f70exr...

 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

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Re: PESOs - Paddington Alive

2010-08-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/8/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:


I know I should link them together in a gallery, but I was taking it
easy today, and not shooting narrative. As part of the Fashion Festival,
Paddington puts in her significant contribution. Then again, it's always
a fashion festival in paddo

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_nikon/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_1conversation/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_lucette/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_debbiemartha/01.htm

Actually three quarters on-topic this time. The Pentax 43mm L is such a
nice lens to use. Don't know why I don't use it more often.

Damn that Epson likes your hands. I'd have another one again in a
heartbeat. Have to try and bide my time. Financially will be much better
in a year's time. I might even go to Japan to pick up a new one 

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Re: K-x for sale

2010-08-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I went to look -- the post has been flagged for removal...

Re film KX versus digital - as my film KX was always my tried and true 
and favorite Pentax body (well, tied with LX) I was
annoyed when I saw they called a new digital camera a KX...   Using the 
same name for a different camera from the same company  just seems dumb.  

Incidentally , the only way to buy stuff on craigslist (or sell it, 
IMHO) is to do it in person for cash.  


ann




Jerry in Arizona wrote:

I wasn't interested in the camera but thought someone else would be.  Don't know 
if the seller is honest or not but many have pointed out scams like this so I 
would leave it alone.


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Subject: Re: K-x for sale
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Based on price, he's probably selling one of these;

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_K/KX.html

A fine camera but not digital.

On 8/17/2010 2:59 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:
 


I came across this offer in the local Craigslist.  If you are looking for an
inexpensive K-x this might be a way.  I have no knowledge of the seller or the
item, just passing on information.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/pho/1876651219.html

Jerry

   




 






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Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version

2010-08-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

frank theriault wrote:


I was thinking this might work better in colour even before Larry's
comment in another thread about my recent use of colour.  I think the
colour version works much better than the BW.  I think that the
suburbs generally work better in colour:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

Here's the BW version for comparison:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

Comments?

cheers,
frank

 

Yeah the color version is better - because the joke reads better...  
Im not crazy about the square format here , tho.  


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Re: OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread mike wilson

David J Brooks wrote:


Am thinking of getting a small PS something i can keep in my pocket
for Erins wedding or the console of my truck. I'll drag my big gear
but would like something small and handy.
Thinking along the lines of the Canon Powershot A series.

Any recommendations. Want to try and keep it under $150-200


Go for one of the Optio S series (small) or G series (larger) which 
should set you back about $20 these days.  Old school and better for it.


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Re: OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Panasonic LX3, process raw files in LR3. Best lens. Stunning results,
even at ISO 400.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am thinking of getting a small PS something i can keep in my pocket
 for Erins wedding or the console of my truck. I'll drag my big gear
 but would like something small and handy.
 Thinking along the lines of the Canon Powershot A series.

 Any recommendations. Want to try and keep it under $150-200

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Re: OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread Adam Maas
And about twice the stated budget.

Still a very good camera, for a PS.

-Adam

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 Panasonic LX3, process raw files in LR3. Best lens. Stunning results,
 even at ISO 400.

 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am thinking of getting a small PS something i can keep in my pocket
 for Erins wedding or the console of my truck. I'll drag my big gear
 but would like something small and handy.
 Thinking along the lines of the Canon Powershot A series.

 Any recommendations. Want to try and keep it under $150-200

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Re: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, wow, wow!!!  Love the gallery, and I totaly admire the journey.  Those 
portraits are great, Subash.  Lots to like there.  Though I like the scenics 
very much too.  Congrats on a great trip and a heroic athetic effort!  Must 
have been some trip. (ok, read understatement there  :-))  Big cheers, 
Christine



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From: Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com

To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 3:50 AM
Subject: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas



hi,

it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)

i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
f70exr...

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

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Re: PESO - Moonrise Through the Trees

2010-08-29 Thread Christine Aguila

Composition is very nice, Frank. Nicely moody.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - Moonrise Through the Trees


Technically far from perfect (although I have to say, personally I
like the noise), I still think it works despite all its shortcomings:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/moonrise-through-trees.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version

2010-08-29 Thread Christine Aguila

Yep, prefer the color!  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version


I was thinking this might work better in colour even before Larry's
comment in another thread about my recent use of colour.  I think the
colour version works much better than the BW.  I think that the
suburbs generally work better in colour:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

Here's the BW version for comparison:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html

Comments?

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Re: OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Buy an LX2 used. Average price seems around $190-225. Not quite as
wide or fast, but still the best lens in class.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 And about twice the stated budget.

 Still a very good camera, for a PS.

 -Adam

 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Panasonic LX3, process raw files in LR3. Best lens. Stunning results,
 even at ISO 400.

 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am thinking of getting a small PS something i can keep in my pocket
 for Erins wedding or the console of my truck. I'll drag my big gear
 but would like something small and handy.
 Thinking along the lines of the Canon Powershot A series.

 Any recommendations. Want to try and keep it under $150-200

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Rick Womer
That is a remarkable physical and photographic achievement!  Pedalling a loaded 
bike endlessly uphill at 14,000 feet--no thank you!

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com
 Subject: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 4:50 AM
 hi,
 
 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back
 from my cycle
 ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with
 other
 things that needed my time. hope things are getting along
 as usual
 here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)
 
  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a
 couple or
  three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit
 optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original
 distance in two
  weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely.
 enjoyed it
  immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but
 finally
  i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to
 make do with a
  ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take
 with  the fuji
  f70exr...
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#
 
 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you
 think..
 
 regards, subash
 
 
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Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version

2010-08-29 Thread Rick Womer
Interesting... to me, the two versions have completely different atmospheres.  
I prefer the color because the atmosphere is cheerier, though the background is 
more distracting.

Rick

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--- On Sun, 8/29/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 7:28 AM
 I was thinking this might work better
 in colour even before Larry's
 comment in another thread about my recent use of
 colour.  I think the
 colour version works much better than the BW.  I
 think that the
 suburbs generally work better in colour:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html
 
 Here's the BW version for comparison:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html
 
 Comments?
 
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Re: OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave,
My daughter has a Casio exlim ex-z77 and likes it.
Faster than the Optio S series.
Regards, Bob S.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:

 Am thinking of getting a small PS something i can keep in my pocket
 for Erins wedding or the console of my truck. I'll drag my big gear
 but would like something small and handy.
 Thinking along the lines of the Canon Powershot A series.

 Any recommendations. Want to try and keep it under $150-200

 Go for one of the Optio S series (small) or G series (larger) which should
 set you back about $20 these days.  Old school and better for it.

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RE: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Bob W
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#
 
 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..
 
 regards, subash

absolutely superb - really enjoyed the photographs in their own right, as
well as as a record of your trip. I'm very jealous of the trip, of course.

Bob


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PAW34 - Footprint

2010-08-29 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, da*16-5...@36mm, 1/90s, f/9.5, ISO200

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread Paul Dunderdale

On 29 Aug 2010, at 10:28, Cotty wrote:

 On 29/8/10, Paul Dunderdale, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 those delectable Crumpets Of My Youth.
 
 Mate, just don't get me started!!


Sounds like a mid-life crie-de-coeur.  I feel your pain.

P



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Re: metering question

2010-08-29 Thread paul stenquist

On Aug 29, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 28/8/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I think flash fill is the obvious answer. You'll rarely find a pro PJ
 photographer shooting in daylight without a good flash mounted. It's the
 best way to bring light to the foreground.
 
 Like this :-)
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7707074
 
Yep!


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Re: PAW34 - Footprint

2010-08-29 Thread SV Hovland
As always a very good picture from you. Thanks for sharing them with us.

Stig Vidar Hovland



Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av DagT 
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Sendt: 29. august 2010 21:18
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Emne: PAW34 - Footprint

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, da*16-5...@36mm, 1/90s, f/9.5, ISO200

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Re: metering question

2010-08-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/8/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7707074

Yep!

Well that's an absolute classic case - and very evenly matched up,
you've got evening (I presume) sunlight hitting the building and even
the guy's face (black T, blue cap, my gut) and lots of shadow that needs
filling. Great job there.

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Re: metering question

2010-08-29 Thread paul stenquist

On Aug 29, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Cotty wrote:

 On 29/8/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7707074
 
 Yep!
 
 Well that's an absolute classic case - and very evenly matched up,
 you've got evening (I presume) sunlight hitting the building and even
 the guy's face (black T, blue cap, my gut) and lots of shadow that needs
 filling. Great job there.
 
Thanks Cotty. You're analysis is correct. The evening sun is crosslight, coming 
from behind the building, so it's hitting the side of the building and the left 
side of the guys face. But everyone in the foreground is in deep shadow. Not 
unlike those under the L shots Christine was attempting. Going tight on her 
subject there with a long lens would have the same effect as it would have 
produced here: a people shot without the environment that makes it interesting.
Paul


 
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Re: PESOs - Paddington Alive

2010-08-29 Thread Derby Chang

Cotty wrote:

On 28/8/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

I know I should link them together in a gallery, but I was taking it
easy today, and not shooting narrative. As part of the Fashion Festival,
Paddington puts in her significant contribution. Then again, it's always
a fashion festival in paddo

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_nikon/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_1conversation/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_lucette/01.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_debbiemartha/01.htm

Actually three quarters on-topic this time. The Pentax 43mm L is such a
nice lens to use. Don't know why I don't use it more often.



Damn that Epson likes your hands. I'd have another one again in a
heartbeat. Have to try and bide my time. Financially will be much better
in a year's time. I might even go to Japan to pick up a new one 

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:) Thanks Cotty, Frank and Bob.

I should also mention, just nearby, the Blender Gallery are showing a 
stunning set of Ethan Russell prints of the Stones from the Let It 
Bleed/Altamont tour. They are interspersed with wry quotes and stories 
from the people at the time, in turn funny and sad. That is how to shoot 
a narrative.


http://www.blender.com.au/let-it-bleed/

Of course, the print with the most red dots next to it...
http://www.blender.com.au/let-it-bleed/#id=imgnum=250


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K7 or Kx

2010-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
Geez, the Leica thread turned into an everybody sucks thread.
Here's a photographic opinion question for the combined wisdom of the
list.

OK, so the last time I saved up money I ended up buying an E-P1 and a
Lumix 20mm 1.7.  Combined with the macro 50 it's my walk around Disney
World, etc., kit.  I just did a major culling of the Pentax gear and
only have the FA20-35, FA50 1.4 and the FA135 2.8 left.  I need a new
main body (I do have the *ist D and Ds left but not what I want to go
with).  The Kx and K7 should be coming down a bit in price because of
the Kr and K5.  I have about $900 but the Kr looks a lot like an
upgraded Kx with  the same sensor.  I can go with the Kx and get a
couple of kit lenses for about $100 extra (the 18-55 and the 55-300)
or just blow it all on the K7.  there are lots of advantages to the Kx
but the K7 might make a better compliment to the E-P1.  Also, this
body has to last a bit.  Since I'd like to start spending future funds
on lenses, especially since I'm now keeping two kits.  Thoughts?

BTW, any opinions about how long I should wait for the best to within
$100 Kx/K7 price?
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Re: PAW34 - Footprint

2010-08-29 Thread Jack Davis
Very interesting well caught image. Looks much like something which would be of 
interest to a Paleontologist. :)

Jack

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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just to mention, I had decided on a Kx until I read this thread and
saw your gallery.  It's really Christine's fault there is another Kx
vs. K7 thread.  So there.

Someday, Christine, I hope to take still-lifes as well as you and
Frank do people.  I hate you both ;-)

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Shooting with this camera, for me, is quite different than the K20.  My
 rhythm is off--I'm behind, and the K7 is ahead of me.  I've been working on
 keeping up.  :-)  One factor involved here is the K7's sounds are
 different--lens focusing and shutter etc--I can barely hear anything, which
 is good, but it's thrown me off a bit.  Funny how you get used to the sounds
 of a camera.  That horizon level is amazing. I certainly do A LOT less crop
 adjustments.  I didn't use the creative filter options on the K20, but I'm
 having fun with the K7's filters--pretty fun, in my view.  Love the
 fish-eye, watercolor, and toy camera filters:
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/k7play

 The view finder is great, and it's easier to see through.  I'm not shooting
 with the battery grip because I haven't purchased it.  A part of me would
 like the vertical buttons, but I have to say, it's been so much fun shooting
 with a really light camera.  That K20 is a tank, especially with battery
 grip.

 Moving through a crowd with the K7 is fun.  It's so quiet.  I can get
 closer, and I'm quieter.  Of course, if you get noticed, you get noticed,
 but if you don't and take a picture folks aren't going to hear much.  I
 worry a lot less about exposure due to the K7's improved exposure accuracy,
 and find I'm not chimping  as much--though I do some--but still this is
 quite liberating.  Post-processing seems quicker--less cropping adjustments
 et al.

 If the rumor is true that a K5 is coming, it's going to be really
 interesting to see what the improvements are.

 So, I think I'll keep K7.  I know I'm singing to the choir here, but I just
 wanted to get my say in :-).
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/korean2010

 More testing and play here.  Comments welcome.  Cheers, Christine
 P.S.  I know there are two color pictures in this black and white gallery,
 but I just couldn't get rid of the playful purple.  :-)


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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
Amen.  I liked my MZ-S, but I have never warmed to the Pentax digital
bodies. For some reason I was always a bit disappointed with the K10D.
 I came close this time, but I just couldn't part with the FA 50,
20-35, and 135.

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 I had forgotten just how glacially slow the AF is.

 I have a soft spot for Pentax's lenses, but the bodies have never inspired me.

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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-29 Thread Mark Cassino
Hey Paul -

Great set of photos! I *almost* made it to the dream cruise this year - my 
brother in law called friday night before and said he had a chance to go 
courtesy of  some auto parts company, but I was already committed for Saturday 
and couldn't get out. 


Checked in to see what I missed - knew you would post your stuff here - looks 
like it was lots of fun!

- MCC



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The first 47 pics are new this year.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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Re: K-x for sale

2010-08-29 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com

Subject: Re: K-x for sale



I went to look -- the post has been flagged for removal...

Re film KX versus digital - as my film KX was always my tried and true and 
favorite Pentax body (well, tied with LX) I was
annoyed when I saw they called a new digital camera a KX...   Using the 
same name for a different camera from the same company  just seems dumb.
Incidentally , the only way to buy stuff on craigslist (or sell it, IMHO) 
is to do it in person for cash.


And at a neutral, very public location.



ann




Jerry in Arizona wrote:

I wasn't interested in the camera but thought someone else would be. 
Don't know if the seller is honest or not but many have pointed out scams 
like this so I would leave it alone.


From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K-x for sale
Message-ID: 4c680fb7.5020...@gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Based on price, he's probably selling one of these;

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_K/KX.html

A fine camera but not digital.

On 8/17/2010 2:59 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

I came across this offer in the local Craigslist.  If you are looking for 
an
inexpensive K-x this might be a way.  I have no knowledge of the seller 
or the

item, just passing on information.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/pho/1876651219.html

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread P. J. Alling



Ad hominem?  To Quote Indgo Montoya I do not think it means what you think it 
means.  I made no attack on  you personally only your knowledge.  You can learn 
can't you?

?  To Quote Inidgo Montoya

On 8/27/2010 3:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I'm sorry you are unable to discuss the issues without resorting to an
ad hominem attack.  I therefore feel it best if I do not respond.

Dan

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:51 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

  I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money back
on your degree.

On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
years.

That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
more suffering than they purport to prevent.

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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 29, 2010, at 17:47, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Amen.  I liked my MZ-S, but I have never warmed to the Pentax digital
 bodies. For some reason I was always a bit disappointed with the K10D.
 I came close this time, but I just couldn't part with the FA 50,
 20-35, and 135.
 

K-7 is the first Pentax digital body that has yet to royally piss me off at 
some point or another.  Hasn't happened yet!

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread P. J. Alling

 On 8/27/2010 9:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:14 +0100, Paul Dunderdaledund...@mcb.net
wrote:

A couple of years ago:  I took months to figure that I couldn't post in
RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say.  And if a man has
nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer).

Ah.  A Lehrer fan.  You'll get on well here

A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning.

Better yet, a man that knows how to lurk. A skill that I need to acquire one of 
these days.

My old usenet haunt (alt.peeves) had a one word faq: lurk.

Whay wasn't there ever an newsgroup called alt.lurk? That woulda
been cool.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread eckinator
Technically not but what you said was prone to being taken personally.
Too prone for comfort IMO. Typical 'clash of perceived absolute
truths' situation...
How about you guys settle this and return to your common subject?
Cheers
Ecke

2010/8/30 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 Ad hominem?  To Quote Indgo Montoya I do not think it means what you think
 it means.  I made no attack on  you personally only your knowledge.  You
 can learn can't you?

 On 8/27/2010 3:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 I'm sorry you are unable to discuss the issues without resorting to an
 ad hominem attack.  I therefore feel it best if I do not respond.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
No comment.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:09 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


 Ad hominem?  To Quote Indgo Montoya I do not think it means what you think
 it means.  I made no attack on  you personally only your knowledge.  You
 can learn can't you?

 ?  To Quote Inidgo Montoya

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Stan Halpin
Subash - it is great to hear from you.

This would look great in a Cannondale ad!
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510743003721429026

Another great shot:
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510744159808715442

I like this one also - a good sense of the terrain.
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510744686992559586

Ditto:
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510745302356751778

Perfect.
http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#5510745699227800402

Thanks for a very nice gallery - I am envious.

stan


On Aug 29, 2010, at 3:50 AM, Subash wrote:

 hi,
 
 it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
 ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
 things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
 here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)
 
 i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
 three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
 so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
 weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
 immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
 i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
 ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
 f70exr...
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#
 
 hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..
 
 regards, subash
 


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Re: K-x for sale

2010-08-29 Thread P. J. Alling

 You could bring body guards

On 8/29/2010 8:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


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- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Subject: Re: K-x for sale



I went to look -- the post has been flagged for removal...

Re film KX versus digital - as my film KX was always my tried and 
true and favorite Pentax body (well, tied with LX) I was
annoyed when I saw they called a new digital camera a KX...   Using 
the same name for a different camera from the same company  just 
seems dumb.
Incidentally , the only way to buy stuff on craigslist (or sell it, 
IMHO) is to do it in person for cash.


And at a neutral, very public location.



ann




Jerry in Arizona wrote:

I wasn't interested in the camera but thought someone else would be. 
Don't know if the seller is honest or not but many have pointed out 
scams like this so I would leave it alone.


From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K-x for sale
Message-ID: 4c680fb7.5020...@gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Based on price, he's probably selling one of these;

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/film_K/KX.html

A fine camera but not digital.

On 8/17/2010 2:59 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

I came across this offer in the local Craigslist.  If you are 
looking for an
inexpensive K-x this might be a way.  I have no knowledge of the 
seller or the

item, just passing on information.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/pho/1876651219.html

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Subash
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 19:51:54 +0100
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

  http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

 absolutely superb - really enjoyed the photographs in their own
 right, as well as as a record of your trip. I'm very jealous of the
 trip, of course.

Cotty, Bob S., Christine, Rick, Bob and Stan, thanks for the generous
comments. appreciate it. :)

regards, subash


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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread P N Stenquist

An amazing journey, well documented. Thanks for sharing these.
Paul


On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 29/8/10, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed:



http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..


Totally amazing set of pics - fascinating journey - total respect that
you did it looking at those inclines!

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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-29 Thread P N Stenquist
Thanks Mark. It was a good time, although plenty of rain. You're  
probably fortunate that you chose to do something else. Next year!

Paul


On Aug 29, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:


Hey Paul -

Great set of photos! I *almost* made it to the dream cruise this  
year - my
brother in law called friday night before and said he had a chance  
to go
courtesy of  some auto parts company, but I was already committed  
for Saturday

and couldn't get out.


Checked in to see what I missed - knew you would post your stuff  
here - looks

like it was lots of fun!

- MCC



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The first 47 pics are new this year.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Aug 29, 2010, at 17:47, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Amen.  I liked my MZ-S, but I have never warmed to the Pentax digital
 bodies. For some reason I was always a bit disappointed with the K10D.
 I came close this time, but I just couldn't part with the FA 50,
 20-35, and 135.


 K-7 is the first Pentax digital body that has yet to royally piss me off at 
 some point or another.  Hasn't happened yet!

  -Charles


I can say the same for the K-x. There was always something with the
older bodies that was grating, even the K10D (ISO limit).


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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread eckinator
2010/8/30 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca:

 There was always something with the
 older bodies that was grating, even the K10D (ISO limit).

Can't wait to welcome its replacement, hopefully late 2011...
Cheers
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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread Subash
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:45:34 -0400
P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 An amazing journey, well documented. Thanks for sharing these.

  http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

thanks, Paul, appreciate your looking...

regards, subash

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Re: GESO: a cycle ride in the himalayas

2010-08-29 Thread P. J. Alling

 Yes, I really, really, hate you.

On 8/29/2010 4:50 AM, Subash wrote:

hi,

it's been a long time (a couple of months?) :) got back from my cycle
ride in the himalayas last month but been kind of busy with other
things that needed my time. hope things are getting along as usual
here. (has cotty got himself a gmail account yet?) :)

  i had planned to do about 800 km in about 17 days but a couple or
  three days into the ride realised that the plan was a bit optimistic.
  so contented myself doing just about half the original distance in two
  weeks and had a nice time doing it slowly and leisurely. enjoyed it
  immensely too. :) three of us had planned this ride but finally
  i had to do it alone so couldn't take my pentax, had to make do with a
  ps. and here is a collection of photos, fwiw, take with  the fuji
  f70exr...

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/spiti#

hope you enjoy the photos and would love to hear what you think..

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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread Christine Nielsen
Christine,

I've been enjoying my k7 for several months now, but until you
mentioned it, I had never flipped on the electronic level!  Duh...
Thanks for setting me straight!

Enjoyed your galleries, too.  Chicago must be a great place to shoot.

Maybe I'll explore the art filters next...

:)
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PESO - August Afternoon

2010-08-29 Thread P N Stenquist

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11521933size=lg

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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 29, 2010, at 20:17, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 Christine,
 
 I've been enjoying my k7 for several months now, but until you
 mentioned it, I had never flipped on the electronic level!  Duh...
 Thanks for setting me straight!
 

If your level is like mine, it'll throw you about 1.5 degrees to the right.  
:-(  So I've turned mine off.

But that isn't a deal-breaker for me.

 -Charles

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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 29, 2010, at 19:50, Adam Maas wrote:
 
 I can say the same for the K-x. There was always something with the
 older bodies that was grating, even the K10D (ISO limit).
 

K10D: slow-if-ever autofocus, variable exposures, flash exposures COMPLETELY 
unpredictable.  Oh, I could go on and on.

Have I mentioned recently that it's just sitting on a shelf in my house?  What 
to do, what to do.  I guess I'll keep it as a spare in case (gasp) anything 
should (gasp) happen to the K7 requiring it to be sent in for service.


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Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament - Colour Version

2010-08-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 frank theriault wrote:
 
 I was thinking this might work better in colour even before Larry's
 comment in another thread about my recent use of colour.  I think the
 colour version works much better than the BW.  I think that the
 suburbs generally work better in colour:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html
 
 Here's the BW version for comparison:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html
 
 Comments?
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
 Yeah the color version is better - because the joke reads better...  Im not 
 crazy about the square format here , tho.  
 ann

They are two entirely different photos.  I think that I like the color one 
better. They're both nice, but neither one totally grabs me.

The nearly square format doesn't quite work. With this basic composition, I'd 
go completely square, trimming the right side so that it was the same distance 
from the right handle as the left wheel is from the bottom then trim the left 
to make it exactly square.

I agree with others about the cluttered background and the tree in the middle, 
what I think would be the best crop (although it would be a different photo) 
would be to crop the left side just keeping a sliver of light to the left of 
the tree, and use that to frame the left side of the picture. I think that all 
the clutter on the left side of the frame distracts from the picture.

YMMV, it'd be a very different picture than the one you've got, and I don't 
know what your artistic intent was.

 
 
 
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Re: K7 or Kx

2010-08-29 Thread CheekyGeek
Gee, I'll have to go back and read that Leica thread now. However, it
is my considered opinion before reading it that a good number of list
members need to up their intake of fibre.
: )


My thoughts on YOUR question...
I went from a K200D to a K-x. Honestly, if I had to choose between a
K7 and a K-x, I'd take a K-x.
It is a fantastic camera and a bargain at the price it is selling for
now, IQ-wise.

If the K-r does indeed have the same sensor and the same IQ
capabilities, with the addition of an external jack (etc.)
A number of people will probably be upgrading and used K-x will be
plentiful. But it will be a while before that happens.
I'm doubtful that there will be rebates on the K-x, as it is selling
well where it is now, but the K-7 could see some discounts.

Frankly, I don't think you could ever regret getting a K-x. IF the K-r
is indeed an upgrade then cross that bridge when you come to it. The
K7 I would consider only if having the two dials is the most important
feature to you.

Darren Addy
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Re: K7 or Kx

2010-08-29 Thread P N Stenquist


On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:46 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:


Gee, I'll have to go back and read that Leica thread now. However, it
is my considered opinion before reading it that a good number of list
members need to up their intake of fibre.
: )


My thoughts on YOUR question...
I went from a K200D to a K-x. Honestly, if I had to choose between a
K7 and a K-x, I'd take a K-x.
It is a fantastic camera and a bargain at the price it is selling for
now, IQ-wise.

If the K-r does indeed have the same sensor and the same IQ
capabilities, with the addition of an external jack (etc.)
A number of people will probably be upgrading and used K-x will be
plentiful. But it will be a while before that happens.
I'm doubtful that there will be rebates on the K-x, as it is selling
well where it is now, but the K-7 could see some discounts.

Frankly, I don't think you could ever regret getting a K-x. IF the K-r
is indeed an upgrade then cross that bridge when you come to it. The
K7 I would consider only if having the two dials is the most important
feature to you.

And vertical controls, extended battery life, large buffer, more  
frames per second, higher resolution, etc.



Darren Addy
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Re: K7 or Kx

2010-08-29 Thread drd1135
Actually it was ”everyone sucks at the national level.  They're all just 
jealous that the Brits were so good at it. That's who we learned from, after 
all. 

Damn, I just ruined another thread. They'd better release those Kr/5 specs 
soon.  
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Gee, I'll have to go back and read that Leica thread now. However, it
is my considered opinion before reading it that a good number of list
members need to up their intake of fibre.
: )


My thoughts on YOUR question...
I went from a K200D to a K-x. Honestly, if I had to choose between a
K7 and a K-x, I'd take a K-x.
It is a fantastic camera and a bargain at the price it is selling for
now, IQ-wise.

If the K-r does indeed have the same sensor and the same IQ
capabilities, with the addition of an external jack (etc.)
A number of people will probably be upgrading and used K-x will be
plentiful. But it will be a while before that happens.
I'm doubtful that there will be rebates on the K-x, as it is selling
well where it is now, but the K-7 could see some discounts.

Frankly, I don't think you could ever regret getting a K-x. IF the K-r
is indeed an upgrade then cross that bridge when you come to it. The
K7 I would consider only if having the two dials is the most important
feature to you.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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GESO: Sikeston, Missouri Drag Strip

2010-08-29 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Hi all,

Just wanted to share a set of photos I took yesterday on my first trip 
to the Sikeston Drag Strip this year.   There are a few pictures of a 
little boy in an orange t-shirt that didn't turn out well, but I 
included them anyway for the benefit of his parents, whom I met while 
taking pictures and told them I'd post them.  Otherwise, I think most of 
the photos turned out pretty well.  There are 61 images in all -- mostly 
of good ol' American muscle car horsepower.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157624712518913/detail/

(All shots take with my K-x -- the vast majority with the 18-55mm kit 
lens in aperture priority.)


Comments and critiques are, of course, welcome.

Best,

Walt

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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-29 Thread drd1135
I still have my *ist D (what a pain to type that on a BlackBerry) with the grip 
and an A50 1.7 in my office. I use it for all Chemistry's web photos. It's slow 
and, by today's standards, pretty low res. Using a MF lens solved the AF speed 
problem.  I just keep abusing it.  I did like that body. It felt solid and 
worked, probably because I had no real expectations. I'd sell it if I got an 
offer (wait for Friday) but I'll remember it fondly. I won't miss the K10D. 

The bodies just change too quickly with DSLRs. You can only get attached to the 
lenses. 
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On Aug 29, 2010, at 19:50, Adam Maas wrote:
 
 I can say the same for the K-x. There was always something with the
 older bodies that was grating, even the K10D (ISO limit).
 

K10D: slow-if-ever autofocus, variable exposures, flash exposures COMPLETELY 
unpredictable.  Oh, I could go on and on.

Have I mentioned recently that it's just sitting on a shelf in my house?  What 
to do, what to do.  I guess I'll keep it as a spare in case (gasp) anything 
should (gasp) happen to the K7 requiring it to be sent in for service.


 -Charles

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Never mind the strumpets, this vixen is a natural photographer

2010-08-29 Thread Larry Colen
Even if she does shoot with Nikon:
http://tinyurl.com/29cdy2v

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Re: OT Not pentax related, PS's

2010-08-29 Thread drd1135
A waterproof PS like the ones from Pentax or Olympus can be very handy and 
take much abuse. I got my daughter an Olympus because she wanted a pink one and 
Pentax had the wrong shade of pink. She is in the Peace Corps in Benin and the 
dust destroyed her Canon SD600 in six months. 
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Am thinking of getting a small PS something i can keep in my pocket
for Erins wedding or the console of my truck. I'll drag my big gear
but would like something small and handy.
Thinking along the lines of the Canon Powershot A series.

Any recommendations. Want to try and keep it under $150-200

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Re: K7 or Kx

2010-08-29 Thread Bruce Dayton
Good question, with only opinions for answers.  First off you have to ask 
yourself what the primary use of this camera will be.  Any professional use or 
strictly amateur.  The K-x is extremely well speced and is a bargain.  It is 
very small and light and handles well.  It is also tops when it comes to low 
light work.

The K7 is a pro build, solid workhorse that is really designed to be used and 
abused.  Everything about it is excellent.  The one weakness is the sensor 
isn't as good at low light a the K-x.

So I see it as the K-x is your choice if low light work is a major issue or if 
the camera will be used moderately.  The K7 is your choice if you are looking 
for a real go to camera that is going to be used a lot.
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Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Geez, the Leica thread turned into an everybody sucks thread.
Here's a photographic opinion question for the combined wisdom of the
list.

OK, so the last time I saved up money I ended up buying an E-P1 and a
Lumix 20mm 1.7.  Combined with the macro 50 it's my walk around Disney
World, etc., kit.  I just did a major culling of the Pentax gear and
only have the FA20-35, FA50 1.4 and the FA135 2.8 left.  I need a new
main body (I do have the *ist D and Ds left but not what I want to go
with).  The Kx and K7 should be coming down a bit in price because of
the Kr and K5.  I have about $900 but the Kr looks a lot like an
upgraded Kx with  the same sensor.  I can go with the Kx and get a
couple of kit lenses for about $100 extra (the 18-55 and the 55-300)
or just blow it all on the K7.  there are lots of advantages to the Kx
but the K7 might make a better compliment to the E-P1.  Also, this
body has to last a bit.  Since I'd like to start spending future funds
on lenses, especially since I'm now keeping two kits.  Thoughts?

BTW, any opinions about how long I should wait for the best to within
$100 Kx/K7 price?
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Re: OT : Bran Everseeking

2010-08-29 Thread drd1135
Mr Smith has learned the first rule of hiding: don't stand up. 

Paraphrased from Monty Python

Feel better Bran. 
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Subject: Re: OT : Bran Everseeking

On 28/08/2010 13:14, Bran Everseeking wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:59:50 -0400
 Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com  wrote:


 Seems our buddy Bran has had a heart attack and is hospitalized. He
 reports from his bed that he is OK. I know you'll join me in wishing
 him a quick recovery.

 Doug

  

 Many Thanks Doug Et al.

 I have returned home a bit more than a week after leaving.  6 new
 drugs, and three metal stents in my heart are supposed to help keep me
 well.  dietary is pretty much the same as the old diabetic one
 excepting less fat and salt which i had started doing anyway.

 I guess I will be shooting the place where  live as I do the required
 build-up of activity.  I found out My son has been lurking here for a
 bit

 thats it for now as there went through my wrist yesterday

 Thanks again all.

 Bran


hi dad/ pdml people i am the son of which he speaks. oops i broke the 
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Re: K7 or Kx

2010-08-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 29, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Geez, the Leica thread turned into an everybody sucks thread.
 Here's a photographic opinion question for the combined wisdom of the
 list.
 
 OK, so the last time I saved up money I ended up buying an E-P1 and a
 Lumix 20mm 1.7.  Combined with the macro 50 it's my walk around Disney
 World, etc., kit.  I just did a major culling of the Pentax gear and
 only have the FA20-35, FA50 1.4 and the FA135 2.8 left.  I need a new
 main body (I do have the *ist D and Ds left but not what I want to go
 with).  The Kx and K7 should be coming down a bit in price because of
 the Kr and K5.  I have about $900 but the Kr looks a lot like an
 upgraded Kx with  the same sensor.  I can go with the Kx and get a
 couple of kit lenses for about $100 extra (the 18-55 and the 55-300)
 or just blow it all on the K7.  there are lots of advantages to the Kx
 but the K7 might make a better compliment to the E-P1.  Also, this
 body has to last a bit.  Since I'd like to start spending future funds
 on lenses, especially since I'm now keeping two kits.  Thoughts?

1) Wait at least until October to make a decision.

2) If you're doing a lot of work in good light, or bad weather, the K-7 is 
probably a better camera.

3) If faster autofocus and dead nuts on metering are critical, then the K-7 is 
probably a better camera.

Other than that, it seems that the typical scenario is for people to buy a K-x 
for it's high-iso, with the intent of using it as their second body, and find 
out that they use it more than their nominally better body.  When I use my 
K-20, I'm reminded of how nice having two control wheels, and focus indicators 
are.  But, the K20 isn't the camera that I carry in my fanny pack, so it's not 
the camera I tend to use when I just happen to see a shot.

I'm curious about how many people on this list have both.  I was planning up 
upgrading from the K100 to the K-7, but got tired of waiting and got the K20 
instead. The K-7 didn't seem to have enough performance advantage for the cost 
over the K20 to make it worth the money.  The K-x, however was cheap enough 
that I could treat it as a replacement for the K100.

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