Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[Thibouille]

GPSBabel would be useful in this case :)

2011/2/10 eckinator :
> hope the output is some standard format like .nmea so you could to the
> same with any old handheld
>
> 2011/2/10, Bruce Walker :
>> On 11-02-10 2:34 PM, eckinator wrote:
>>> maybe it listens for the shutter? =)
>>> wouldn't it be enough to timesync and then match gps log time and exif
>>> time in post?
>>
>> That's exactly what some of these devices do. They simply record where
>> you've been at some predetermined rate (likely every few seconds). Then
>> back at home, software supplied with the device matches the images' EXIF
>> times with your location log and updates the EXIF.
>>
>> So you shouldn't even need to attach the device to the camera really,
>> just carry it in your pocket.
>>
>> -bmw
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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[Thibouille]

Bad idea IMO, siply because that would eat battery power like crazy,
on both the logger and the camera.

2011/2/11 Glen Berry :
> This seems like it would be a good application for blue tooth technology.
> That is, if only Pentax cameras were built with blue tooth capability. You
> would then only have to have the GPS unit near the camera, not connected to
> it.
>
>
> On 2/10/2011 2:13 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>> From: eckinator
>>>
>>> maybe it is just a data logger and only attaches to the hotshoe
>>> physically - there are others like it so it could just be redabged OEM
>>> who knows; I'll just wait and see =)
>>>
>>> 2011/2/10, John Sessoms :

 > Pentax doesn't trigger the hot-shoe at shutter speeds above sync. How
 > does this thing work if it's mounted there?
>>
>> It's got to have some sort of output from the camera to tell it when a
>> photo is taken so it knows when to log the coordinates. I'm curious how it
>> gets that information since the hot-shoe it appears to mount on doesn't
>> trigger all the time.
>>
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Re: Is Live View Also Sent Over The Video Output?

[Dario Bonazza]

K-7 and K-5 do that via HDMI output.
I haven't tried the AV output in them  and other camera models, but I think 
they only output the signal during playback.

Dario

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I was wondering if any of the Pentax DSLRs actually transmit a "Live View" 
video feed through their video output connection?


The reason I'm asking, I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to place 
a Pentax DSLR in a remote location (on the end of a pole, for example) and 
view the Live View signal on a remote monitor. If so, you could trip the 
shutter remotely and use the camera in places where it's physically 
impractical to place your head behind the camera.


If this would work, which models of Pentax support this sort of remote 
live viewing?




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Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

[mike wilson]

On 10/02/2011 15:06, Igor Roshchin wrote:


That's great!

That's basically what they say in the books about scientific/engineering
writing. The very first thing a writer has to recognize are these
three factors: audience, purpose, and occasion.
The first, audience, defines "what do they know?", "why are they
reading?", "what expectations (and biases?) they have?"
The second, purpose, can be "to perform" or "to persuade".
The last one, occasion, defines things like format, formality,
deadlines, politics, etc.

From these considerations, the questions and the rationale you listed

follow.

I was teaching this material to physics major senior students just a
week ago in my course "The Art of Scientific Communication".
If anyone is interested in reading, - I have a list of a few good books
that discuss these and related topics in detail in a rather clear language:
http://www.worldcat.org/profiles/roshchin/lists/1723072


I can add this book to your list.
http://www.amazon.com/Scientists-Must-Write-Engineers-Routledge/dp/0415269962

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>>> 
>> 
>> The good news is that the metering on the K-r is good enough that TTL flash 
>> is actually useful.  The bad news is that the AF540 is damn near useless as 
>> a manual flash.  Keep your eyes open for cheap manual flashes, but watch the 
>> trigger voltage and make sure it isn't so high that it'll fry your camera.
> 
> TTL flashes don't work on the K-r, or any of the other recent Pentax DSLRs.

Mea culpa, I mentally translated TTL to P-TTL, just treating it as Through The 
Lens metering in general.


> 
> The AF540 is a good flash. It's P-TTL, which is the Pentax auto format. Why 
> would you want to use it in manual mode. 

So far, I've found three reasons to use my AF540 in manual mode, My K100Dsuper, 
my K20D, and to a lesser extent my K-x.  Frankly, in my experience, Pentax 
flash metering technology lies somewhere between useless and destructive. 
Granted, it has improved a lot lately, and I have actually found several 
situations with the K-x that using p-ttl with the AF-540 has led to photos with 
nearly acceptable exposure. But, even if p-ttl were to work perfectly the 
question of why I would want full control of any piece of photographic 
equipment stuns me from a photographer of your ability?  Do you just leave your 
camera in green mode and autofocus and let it make every decision for you? I 
didn't buy a DSLR because of how well it took photos without my input, I took a 
DSLR because of how well it lets me control it.

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when itarrives...

[Peter Loveday]

I also would like to ask "When is Spring and when will it finally get 
here?"


PDML doesn't do spring :-)  Welcome!  Cheers, Christine 


Indeed.  We're more a perpetual 'winter of our discontent' type crowd :)

- Peter


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Is Live View Also Sent Over The Video Output?

[Glen Berry]

I was wondering if any of the Pentax DSLRs actually transmit a "Live 
View" video feed through their video output connection?


The reason I'm asking, I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to 
place a Pentax DSLR in a remote location (on the end of a pole, for 
example) and view the Live View signal on a remote monitor. If so, you 
could trip the shutter remotely and use the camera in places where it's 
physically impractical to place your head behind the camera.


If this would work, which models of Pentax support this sort of remote 
live viewing?




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Re: peso chi fog pic

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Frank.  I am, however, still fussing with the crop.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: Re: peso chi fog pic


On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:

I've been sitting on this one, wavering. Comments welcome. If you don't
like it, feel free to say so. No prob. Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html


Outstanding!!

Has a very "Steichen" feel to it.  Reminds me of his famous Flatiron photo.

This is an absolute keeper.

cheers,
frank

cheers,
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Re: Red Shoulder Hawks

[Christine Aguila]

I really like this shot of your Hawks, Bob--a lot.  I just wish the sign 
wasn't cut off.  Cheers, Christine



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To: "PDML" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:01 PM
Subject: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks



Found these guys today, just standing around hunting bugs in the grass.

https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818

K-5 and DA60-250/4 lens, lots of backlight corrected in Lightroom 3.2/

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO dancing between love and time

[Christine Aguila]

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Subject: Re: PESO dancing between love and time


The heart is always a bit distracting, Christine.  ;-)

Tell me about!  :-)  Cheers, Christine

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Christine Aguila]

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I also would like to ask "When is Spring and when will it finally get 
here?"



PDML doesn't do spring :-)  Welcome!  Cheers, Christine 



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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> On 11-02-10 2:34 PM, eckinator wrote:
>> maybe it listens for the shutter? =)
>> wouldn't it be enough to timesync and then match gps log time and exif
>> time in post?
> 
> That's exactly what some of these devices do. They simply record where you've 
> been at some predetermined rate (likely every few seconds). Then back at 
> home, software supplied with the device matches the images' EXIF times with 
> your location log and updates the EXIF.
> 
> So you shouldn't even need to attach the device to the camera really, just 
> carry it in your pocket.

In that case, it should be fairly straightforward to set up an Android (or 
iPhone) to record gps data periodically, and go from there.  I tried to see if 
such a program already existed, but most of what I got was about using the 
internal camera.

In a similar vein, I believe that the pc jack is not limited by shutter speed, 
as I've had several shots that didn't sync because the shutter speed was too 
high.  In theory, one could buy a $10 bluetooth headset, wire the button to a 
pc sync cable so that every time you took a photo, the headset would send a 
ping to the android, then simply write an ISR that used that signal to look up 
gps location rather than dialing the phone.

Using, of course, "beer and pizza" definitions of "simple" and 
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

[eckinator]

if your enlarger lens is good old M39 you can pick up a cheap used
Zörk Mini Macro Helix along with am M39 adaptor, some M42 extension
tubes or an M42 bellows and a M42 to PK adaptor. with a little luck
you can get all that for under $150 and it will let you focus and
shoot with enlarger lenses just fine. You could even do it w/o the
Zörk with just an M42 to M39 adaptor if you can find one.

2011/2/11, Glen Berry :
> I just realized that I have a lens-reversing adapter. I just mounted a
> Pentax 50mm f2.0 lens on my camera backwards, and it gave fairly
> impressive results. When shooting coins, a US quarter will almost
> totally span the narrow dimension of the frame. There is just a very
> tiny amount of space left on both sides of the coin.
>
> Using this same adapter, along with a special adapter plate for my old
> Omega enlarger, I can mount my Pentax DSLR in place of my enlarger head.
> This will let me shoot high-magnification macro through my EL-Nikkor
> enlarging lens. With the camera mounted on the enlarger it's not
> terribly portable, but I can definitely make use of this here at home.
>
> These are some things I can make good use of right now, until I get more
> elaborate macro gear.   :)
>
> I want to think everyone for their macro lens suggestions. You've all
> been very helpful!
>
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RE: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Jeffery Johnson]

Thanks Brian I will look that site over... on a side note I checked the
status of my package and it has now departed Knoxville on its way here to
Nashville.

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Yes.  See this table of specifications - 8th row.

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-digital-slr-camera-reviews/113820-
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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

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On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
> 
>> Howdy..
>> My new first time DSLR, the K-R, is still in Knoxville and due to the lovely
>> snow we had yesterday afternoon/evening it is delayed. (It took me an hour
>> and a half to get home and needless to say I did not even attempt to go into
>> work today.) It was supposed to be here this evening but now it may not
>> arrive until tomorrow or worse not tell Monday. With the camera I also went
>> ahead and got a remote and two 52mm filters for the 18-55mm kit lens as I
>> already have two 58mm filters that will work with the 55-300mm kit lens.
>> This coming week I am going to get an adapter so I can use AA batteries and
>> a second li-on battery. 
> 
> Congratulations.  You have what you need to get a good start.
> 
>> 
>> Down the road when our monies are not so tight and once I am comfortable
>> with the K-R and DSLR photography I would not mind getting a couple of extra
>> lenses. The following list is a few lenses I have come across that I find of
>> interest and they are not listed in any order of importance. Perhaps someone
>> on the list has a spare one of these lenses they could donate to a newbie or
>> keep an eye out at local flea markets, yard sales and the like. Just keep in
>> mind if by chance you do come across a lens listed I truly cannot afford an
>> arm and a leg for a lens.
>> 
>> Super-Takumar 55mm f=1:2/55 lens
>> Pentax 50mm f/1.7 SMC-M
>> Pentax KA f2.8 28mm lens
>> SMC Pentax 100mm F4 Macro
>> SMC PENTAX-FA 1:2.8 50mm MACRO
>> SMC Pentax 30mm F2.8
>> SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1.7
> 
> I wouldn't worry too much just yet about which lenses that you need, spend 
> some time getting to know your camera and what sort of photography you like 
> to do, and that'll give you a better idea of what lenses you really need.  On 
> the other hand, a lot of people have old Pentax film cameras, with lenses, 
> lying around in their closets.  Ask around, there's a good chance that 
> friends and family have old gear that they'd be happy to give to you.
> 
>> Also at some point down the road going to look into an TTL flash but to be
>> honest I am not certain which one to get that I can afford so it is rather
>> low on the list of items.
>> 
> 
> The good news is that the metering on the K-r is good enough that TTL flash 
> is actually useful.  The bad news is that the AF540 is damn near useless as a 
> manual flash.  Keep your eyes open for cheap manual flashes, but watch the 
> trigger voltage and make sure it isn't so high that it'll fry your camera.

TTL flashes don't work on the K-r, or any of the other recent Pentax DSLRs. The 
AF540 is a good flash. It's P-TTL, which is the Pentax auto format. Why would 
you want to use it in manual mode. 
Paul
> 
>> I also would like to ask "When is Spring and when will it finally get here?"
> 
> Yeah, our weather keeps teasing us in the high 60's but just won't break into 
> the 70s.  Though I'm certain that once I shake this cold and can spend time 
> outside, the rains will return in full force.
> 
>> I am so so tired of snow and to a degree the cold but more so the snow, ice
>> and bad roads. Oh and some good books or perhaps good websites for us DSLR
>> newbies.
> 
> My favorite photo book is "Light, Science and Magic".
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jeffery Johnson
>> (If this is the third time you see this please ignore I am sorry as I did
>> not see previous messages make it to the list.)
> 
> Only post I've seen so far.   
> 
> Congratulations again on it.  I spent a couple of weeks testing one out and 
> they are excellent little cameras. I love my K-x, and the K-r has many much 
> needed improvements over the K-x.
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

[Glen Berry]

I just realized that I have a lens-reversing adapter. I just mounted a 
Pentax 50mm f2.0 lens on my camera backwards, and it gave fairly 
impressive results. When shooting coins, a US quarter will almost 
totally span the narrow dimension of the frame. There is just a very 
tiny amount of space left on both sides of the coin.


Using this same adapter, along with a special adapter plate for my old 
Omega enlarger, I can mount my Pentax DSLR in place of my enlarger head. 
This will let me shoot high-magnification macro through my EL-Nikkor 
enlarging lens. With the camera mounted on the enlarger it's not 
terribly portable, but I can definitely make use of this here at home.


These are some things I can make good use of right now, until I get more 
elaborate macro gear.   :)


I want to think everyone for their macro lens suggestions. You've all 
been very helpful!



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RE: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:02 -0600, "Jeffery Johnson"
 wrote:
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Larry Colen
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:23 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>
> 
> >The good news is that the metering on the K-r is good enough that TTL flash
> is actually useful.  The bad news is that the AF540 is damn near useless
> as
> a manual flash.  Keep your eyes open for cheap manual >flashes, but watch
> the trigger voltage and make sure it isn't so high that it'll fry your
> camera.
> 
> Thanks, though I was informed earlier that a TTL flash will not work as
> it
> is P-TTL.
> 


Yes.  See this table of specifications - 8th row.

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-digital-slr-camera-reviews/113820-pentax-k-r.html



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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[Glen Berry]

This seems like it would be a good application for blue tooth 
technology. That is, if only Pentax cameras were built with blue tooth 
capability. You would then only have to have the GPS unit near the 
camera, not connected to it.



On 2/10/2011 2:13 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: eckinator

maybe it is just a data logger and only attaches to the hotshoe
physically - there are others like it so it could just be redabged OEM
who knows; I'll just wait and see =)

2011/2/10, John Sessoms :

> Pentax doesn't trigger the hot-shoe at shutter speeds above sync. How
> does this thing work if it's mounted there?


It's got to have some sort of output from the camera to tell it when a 
photo is taken so it knows when to log the coordinates. I'm curious 
how it gets that information since the hot-shoe it appears to mount on 
doesn't trigger all the time.



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Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem

[Paul Stenquist]

It would be better to find a way to control the light in the room, rather than 
changing the monitor for different conditions. Can you put a shade or curtain 
on the window? It's hard to evaluate images for printing if the room lighting 
keeps changing.
Paul
On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:36 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Well, i think i see what some of you are talking about regarding
> brightness in different light conditions.
> 
> When i figured out what worked best last weekend, it had been during a
> rather long spell of overcastness. This is were i figured that -10-11
> clicks worked best.
> 
> Today i was looking at the same photos, now in the room with diffused
> bright sun light. I had to bump up from -11 to about -8 or -7 to get
> the same looking photo on screen.
> Seems a few days of playing to get a screen profile for various light
> conditions is in order.
> 
> And i thought moving my system to Erin's old room would be a snap.:-)
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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RE: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Jeffery Johnson]

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Larry Colen
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:23 PM
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arrives...


On February 10, 2011 5:23 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> Congratulations.  You have what you need to get a good start.

Thanks

>I wouldn't worry too much just yet about which lenses that you need, spend
some time getting to know your camera and what sort of photography you like
to do, and that'll give you a better idea of what lenses you >really need.
On the other hand, a lot of people have old Pentax film cameras, with
lenses, lying around in their closets.  Ask around, there's a good chance
that friends and family have old gear that they'd be happy to >give to you.

I made up the list for possible future addition and will check if anyone has
any of the older Pentax film cameras laying around.

>The good news is that the metering on the K-r is good enough that TTL flash
is actually useful.  The bad news is that the AF540 is damn near useless as
a manual flash.  Keep your eyes open for cheap manual >flashes, but watch
the trigger voltage and make sure it isn't so high that it'll fry your
camera.

Thanks, though I was informed earlier that a TTL flash will not work as it
is P-TTL.

>Yeah, our weather keeps teasing us in the high 60's but just won't break
into the 70s.  Though I'm certain that once I shake this cold and can spend
time outside, the rains will return in full force.


We are going down to single digits tonight though over the weekend we are
actually going to make it up into the low 50's.


>My favorite photo book is "Light, Science and Magic".

Thanks I will check for that at our local library.

>Only post I've seen so far.   
>Congratulations again on it.  I spent a couple of weeks testing one out and
they are excellent little cameras. I love my K-x, and the K-r has many much
needed improvements over the K-x.

I am hoping it arrives tomorrow as it will give me time over the weekend to
start playing with it and reading over the manual and all that learning
curve of having a DSLR.

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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 01:57:55PM -0500, David J Brooks wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Parsons  
> wrote:
> > The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.
> 
> Frank and i cannot use this method. We wear gloves most of the year.
> 
> Dave

My bike gloves have nice little leather palm pieces, pretty close to 18% grey.


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Re: Sensor Cleaning

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:06:52AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, David Parsons  
> > wrote:
> >> I store my camera and lenses in a bag of sand and have never needed to
> >> clean them.  They are just that awesome.
> > 
> > One can only assume from this that you don't feel the need to make
> > photographs with them, eh?
> 
> What a coincidence, that's the conclusion people come to after looking at my 
> PESOs.

Personally, I suspect most people reach exactly the opposite conclusion ...


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Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem

[David J Brooks]

Well, i think i see what some of you are talking about regarding
brightness in different light conditions.

When i figured out what worked best last weekend, it had been during a
rather long spell of overcastness. This is were i figured that -10-11
clicks worked best.

Today i was looking at the same photos, now in the room with diffused
bright sun light. I had to bump up from -11 to about -8 or -7 to get
the same looking photo on screen.
Seems a few days of playing to get a screen profile for various light
conditions is in order.

And i thought moving my system to Erin's old room would be a snap.:-)

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

> Howdy..
> My new first time DSLR, the K-R, is still in Knoxville and due to the lovely
> snow we had yesterday afternoon/evening it is delayed. (It took me an hour
> and a half to get home and needless to say I did not even attempt to go into
> work today.) It was supposed to be here this evening but now it may not
> arrive until tomorrow or worse not tell Monday. With the camera I also went
> ahead and got a remote and two 52mm filters for the 18-55mm kit lens as I
> already have two 58mm filters that will work with the 55-300mm kit lens.
> This coming week I am going to get an adapter so I can use AA batteries and
> a second li-on battery. 

Congratulations.  You have what you need to get a good start.

> 
> Down the road when our monies are not so tight and once I am comfortable
> with the K-R and DSLR photography I would not mind getting a couple of extra
> lenses. The following list is a few lenses I have come across that I find of
> interest and they are not listed in any order of importance. Perhaps someone
> on the list has a spare one of these lenses they could donate to a newbie or
> keep an eye out at local flea markets, yard sales and the like. Just keep in
> mind if by chance you do come across a lens listed I truly cannot afford an
> arm and a leg for a lens.
> 
> Super-Takumar 55mm f=1:2/55 lens
> Pentax 50mm f/1.7 SMC-M
> Pentax KA f2.8 28mm lens
> SMC Pentax 100mm F4 Macro
> SMC PENTAX-FA 1:2.8 50mm MACRO
> SMC Pentax 30mm F2.8
> SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1.7

I wouldn't worry too much just yet about which lenses that you need, spend some 
time getting to know your camera and what sort of photography you like to do, 
and that'll give you a better idea of what lenses you really need.  On the 
other hand, a lot of people have old Pentax film cameras, with lenses, lying 
around in their closets.  Ask around, there's a good chance that friends and 
family have old gear that they'd be happy to give to you.

> Also at some point down the road going to look into an TTL flash but to be
> honest I am not certain which one to get that I can afford so it is rather
> low on the list of items.
> 

The good news is that the metering on the K-r is good enough that TTL flash is 
actually useful.  The bad news is that the AF540 is damn near useless as a 
manual flash.  Keep your eyes open for cheap manual flashes, but watch the 
trigger voltage and make sure it isn't so high that it'll fry your camera.

> I also would like to ask "When is Spring and when will it finally get here?"

Yeah, our weather keeps teasing us in the high 60's but just won't break into 
the 70s.  Though I'm certain that once I shake this cold and can spend time 
outside, the rains will return in full force.

> I am so so tired of snow and to a degree the cold but more so the snow, ice
> and bad roads. Oh and some good books or perhaps good websites for us DSLR
> newbies.

My favorite photo book is "Light, Science and Magic".

> 
> Thanks,
> Jeffery Johnson
> (If this is the third time you see this please ignore I am sorry as I did
> not see previous messages make it to the list.)

Only post I've seen so far.   

Congratulations again on it.  I spent a couple of weeks testing one out and 
they are excellent little cameras. I love my K-x, and the K-r has many much 
needed improvements over the K-x.

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RE: OT: Self help

[Bob W]

> Bob,
> 
> Having read the footnote one therein I have amusingly noticed that I
> was
> just about to ask you what exactly you meant by "English" and what was
> the difference in the context thereof between British and English and
> if
> I may be so bold to add here - American.
> 
> Surely I should read this text in its entirety as it is undoubtedly
> going to prove to be most entertaining...
> 
> Boris

unlikely as it may seem, there is a way in which Americans can almost attain
Englishness:


To be English is to be a gentleman, and to be a gentleman is to be English.


B


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Re: PESO 2011 - 023 - GDG

[Jim King]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:59:01 -0800

> Just a singleton for now ... Was out for a morning walk a couple of weeks 
> back 
> and became entranced by shapes and soft fog interplay. I think there's enough 
> in what I captured for another 7-9 photo set, but haven't gotten to the 
> processing yet. 
> 
> Anyway, here's one to enjoy:
>   
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/lightbox/
> 
> or 
>   
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/
> 
> if the Flickr lightbox doesnt work for you. 
> 
> Thanks for looking, comments appreciated. 


Another image well-seen and well-captured.  Usually symmetric compositions 
don't work as well for me as unsymmetric ones, but this one is just fine, thank 
you.

Regards, Jim

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RE: OT: Self help

[Bob W]

> > Having read the footnote one therein I have amusingly noticed that I
> was
> > just about to ask you what exactly you meant by "English" and what
> was
> > the difference in the context thereof between British and English and
> if
> > I may be so bold to add here - American.
> >
> > Surely I should read this text in its entirety as it is undoubtedly
> > going to prove to be most entertaining...
> >
> > Boris
> >
> 
> "England and America are two countries separated by a common language."
> 
> - George Bernard Shaw
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAYUuspQ6BY
> 

"English - Who needs that? I'm never going to England!"
--- Homer Simpson




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RE: OT: Self help

[Bob W]

> > > http://f2.org/humour/howalien.html
> >
> > Blimey. :-)
> >
> > Jostein
> 
> Ah, memories.
> I had a copy of this in a book back when I was a teenager.

me too


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RE: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Jeffery Johnson]

Thanks Brian I will do some searches those.

Thanks for the advice.
Jeffery

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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:50 PM
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arrives...

Jeffrey

I'm sure you'll enjoy the K-r if Larry's experience with the one he tested
is anything to go by.

Regarding a flash, keep in mind that the K-r doesn't support TTL.  You will
need a flash that offers P-TTL. So models such as the AF330FTZ or AF400FTZ
won't work properly and you'll need something like the AF360FGZ.  Check out
the K-mount page
(http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/index.html) for further details.

Alternatively, you could go for one of the older flashes that offer auto
flash control such as the AF280T.



Cheers

Brian

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:18 -0500, "Steven Desjardins" 
wrote:
> Check out KEH.com.  They have many 50s at reasonable prices.
> "Bargain" rating is really good at KEH.  The have an M50 1.7 BGN grade 
> for $45.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Jeffery Johnson 
>  wrote:
> > Howdy..
> > My new first time DSLR, the K-R, is still in Knoxville and due to 
> > the lovely snow we had yesterday afternoon/evening it is delayed. 
> > (It took me an hour and a half to get home and needless to say I did 
> > not even attempt to go into work today.) It was supposed to be here 
> > this evening but now it may not arrive until tomorrow or worse not 
> > tell Monday. With the camera I also went ahead and got a remote and 
> > two 52mm filters for the 18-55mm kit lens as I already have two 58mm
filters that will work with the 55-300mm kit lens.
> > This coming week I am going to get an adapter so I can use AA 
> > batteries and a second li-on battery.
> >
> > Down the road when our monies are not so tight and once I am 
> > comfortable with the K-R and DSLR photography I would not mind 
> > getting a couple of extra lenses. The following list is a few lenses 
> > I have come across that I find of interest and they are not listed 
> > in any order of importance. Perhaps someone on the list has a spare 
> > one of these lenses they could donate to a newbie or keep an eye out 
> > at local flea markets, yard sales and the like. Just keep in mind if 
> > by chance you do come across a lens listed I truly cannot afford an arm
and a leg for a lens.
> >
> > Super-Takumar 55mm f=1:2/55 lens
> > Pentax 50mm f/1.7 SMC-M
> > Pentax KA f2.8 28mm lens
> > SMC Pentax 100mm F4 Macro
> > SMC PENTAX-FA 1:2.8 50mm MACRO
> > SMC Pentax 30mm F2.8
> > SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1.7
> >
> > Also at some point down the road going to look into an TTL flash but 
> > to be honest I am not certain which one to get that I can afford so 
> > it is rather low on the list of items.
> >
> > I also would like to ask "When is Spring and when will it finally get
here?"
> > I am so so tired of snow and to a degree the cold but more so the 
> > snow, ice and bad roads. Oh and some good books or perhaps good 
> > websites for us DSLR newbies.
> >
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RE: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Jeffery Johnson]

Hum, okay?

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Cotty
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:39 PM
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arrives...

On 10/2/11, Jeffery Johnson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Howdy..

Howdy. Pull up a stool.

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RE: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[Bob W]

> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Parsons
>  wrote:
> > The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.
> 
> Frank and i cannot use this method. We wear gloves most of the year.

get some 18% gloves.




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RE: PESO - In Canada We Call Them "Elevators"

[Bob W]

> All except for in the office building at 360 Bay Street, Toronto:
> 

cuts down on signage costs.


> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-canada-we-call-them-
> elevators.html
> 
> Notwithstanding to the reference to Mother England, I do like this
> lobby a lot.  Beautiful marble, lovely design, soft lighting.
> 


Didn't Annie Hall whatever her name is Diane Keaton do a book of photos of
lobbies some time back in the 80s? 

B


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RE: Pentax GPS accessory

[Bob W]

> That's exactly what some of these devices do. They simply record where
> you've been at some predetermined rate (likely every few seconds). Then
> back at home, software supplied with the device matches the images'
> EXIF
> times with your location log and updates the EXIF.
> 
> So you shouldn't even need to attach the device to the camera really,
> just carry it in your pocket.

you'd need to synchronise clocks from time to time.

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RE: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Bob W]

> >Howdy..
> 
> Howdy. Pull up a stool.

doesn't this belong in the pooh sticks thread?

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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Brian Walters]

Jeffrey

I'm sure you'll enjoy the K-r if Larry's experience with the one he
tested is anything to go by.

Regarding a flash, keep in mind that the K-r doesn't support TTL.  You
will need a flash that offers P-TTL. So models such as the AF330FTZ or
AF400FTZ won't work properly and you'll need something like the
AF360FGZ.  Check out the K-mount page
(http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/index.html) for further details.

Alternatively, you could go for one of the older flashes that offer auto
flash control such as the AF280T.



Cheers

Brian

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:18 -0500, "Steven Desjardins" 
wrote:
> Check out KEH.com.  They have many 50s at reasonable prices.
> "Bargain" rating is really good at KEH.  The have an M50 1.7 BGN grade
> for $45.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Jeffery Johnson
>  wrote:
> > Howdy..
> > My new first time DSLR, the K-R, is still in Knoxville and due to the lovely
> > snow we had yesterday afternoon/evening it is delayed. (It took me an hour
> > and a half to get home and needless to say I did not even attempt to go into
> > work today.) It was supposed to be here this evening but now it may not
> > arrive until tomorrow or worse not tell Monday. With the camera I also went
> > ahead and got a remote and two 52mm filters for the 18-55mm kit lens as I
> > already have two 58mm filters that will work with the 55-300mm kit lens.
> > This coming week I am going to get an adapter so I can use AA batteries and
> > a second li-on battery.
> >
> > Down the road when our monies are not so tight and once I am comfortable
> > with the K-R and DSLR photography I would not mind getting a couple of extra
> > lenses. The following list is a few lenses I have come across that I find of
> > interest and they are not listed in any order of importance. Perhaps someone
> > on the list has a spare one of these lenses they could donate to a newbie or
> > keep an eye out at local flea markets, yard sales and the like. Just keep in
> > mind if by chance you do come across a lens listed I truly cannot afford an
> > arm and a leg for a lens.
> >
> > Super-Takumar 55mm f=1:2/55 lens
> > Pentax 50mm f/1.7 SMC-M
> > Pentax KA f2.8 28mm lens
> > SMC Pentax 100mm F4 Macro
> > SMC PENTAX-FA 1:2.8 50mm MACRO
> > SMC Pentax 30mm F2.8
> > SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1.7
> >
> > Also at some point down the road going to look into an TTL flash but to be
> > honest I am not certain which one to get that I can afford so it is rather
> > low on the list of items.
> >
> > I also would like to ask "When is Spring and when will it finally get here?"
> > I am so so tired of snow and to a degree the cold but more so the snow, ice
> > and bad roads. Oh and some good books or perhaps good websites for us DSLR
> > newbies.
> >
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Re: Cartier-Bresson at the High

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-02-10 17:13, Eric Weir wrote:


On Feb 9, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:


If you're in the Atlanta area, or plan to visit any time soon, I just got an email from 
the High Museum of Art that they'll be running "Henri Cartier-Bresson: The Modern 
Century" 19 Feb 2011 through 29 May 2011. There will also be a free, but limited 
seating, lecture on HCB by Peter Galassi, Chief Curator of the Dept of Photography at the 
Museum of Modern Art.


Looked for information about the lecture on the High website, Doug, but didn't 
find anything. Do you have details?


Try:

http://www.high.org/main.taf?p=3,2,1,21,1

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Re: Protesting global warming

[Cotty]

On 10/2/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Yep. Never challenge Cotty for a game of poohsticks.

Actually I've filmed it many times but never played!

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Re: Protesting global warming

[Cotty]

On 10/2/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It's from Cotty. Your mind has to be down in the gutter to understand it.

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Re: White Snow and Red Barn

[Don Guthrie]

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:14:49 -0600
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I like it! Glad to see they still paint barns in Iowa. Seems that if
they do it in Nebraska their property values go up.
(Only wish I was joking).



Well if the govt punishes you for painting you get less painting. I 
don't know Iowa's policy on barns but there are some in need of paint 
for sure. I think they distinguish between maintaining vs 
improving.Thanks for looking Darrren.



Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:35:58 -0500
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Lovely photo!

Bill


We aim to please Bill. Thanks.


Message: 9
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A pleasant and well composed scene.
Paul

I'm glad you liked it Paul. Thanks



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Very pretty winter scene

Dave


David I mostly aim for pretty so I am glad you liked it.



Message: 10
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:46:46 -0800
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On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:


> Once more into the breech.
>
> http://donspix.posterous.com/white-snow-red-barn-says-home-to-some-photo

Lovely colors and all, though I wish you had stepped forward a bit so that the 
tree in the foreground wasn't obscuring the windmill and the tree in the 
background.



>
Point taken. I looked at it again and there was room to to move forward 
and to the left. I plan to revisit this site maybe next summer and those 
leaves would sure block things then. I have a few more from that day I 
will post eventually. Thanks for looking.



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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Cotty]

On 10/2/11, Jeffery Johnson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Howdy..

Howdy. Pull up a stool.

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RE: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Jeffery Johnson]

Thanks I will bookmark their site for future references.

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arrives...

Check out KEH.com.  They have many 50s at reasonable prices.
"Bargain" rating is really good at KEH.  The have an M50 1.7 BGN grade for
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Re: Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Steven Desjardins]

Check out KEH.com.  They have many 50s at reasonable prices.
"Bargain" rating is really good at KEH.  The have an M50 1.7 BGN grade
for $45.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 wrote:
> Howdy..
> My new first time DSLR, the K-R, is still in Knoxville and due to the lovely
> snow we had yesterday afternoon/evening it is delayed. (It took me an hour
> and a half to get home and needless to say I did not even attempt to go into
> work today.) It was supposed to be here this evening but now it may not
> arrive until tomorrow or worse not tell Monday. With the camera I also went
> ahead and got a remote and two 52mm filters for the 18-55mm kit lens as I
> already have two 58mm filters that will work with the 55-300mm kit lens.
> This coming week I am going to get an adapter so I can use AA batteries and
> a second li-on battery.
>
> Down the road when our monies are not so tight and once I am comfortable
> with the K-R and DSLR photography I would not mind getting a couple of extra
> lenses. The following list is a few lenses I have come across that I find of
> interest and they are not listed in any order of importance. Perhaps someone
> on the list has a spare one of these lenses they could donate to a newbie or
> keep an eye out at local flea markets, yard sales and the like. Just keep in
> mind if by chance you do come across a lens listed I truly cannot afford an
> arm and a leg for a lens.
>
> Super-Takumar 55mm f=1:2/55 lens
> Pentax 50mm f/1.7 SMC-M
> Pentax KA f2.8 28mm lens
> SMC Pentax 100mm F4 Macro
> SMC PENTAX-FA 1:2.8 50mm MACRO
> SMC Pentax 30mm F2.8
> SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1.7
>
> Also at some point down the road going to look into an TTL flash but to be
> honest I am not certain which one to get that I can afford so it is rather
> low on the list of items.
>
> I also would like to ask "When is Spring and when will it finally get here?"
> I am so so tired of snow and to a degree the cold but more so the snow, ice
> and bad roads. Oh and some good books or perhaps good websites for us DSLR
> newbies.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeffery Johnson
> (If this is the third time you see this please ignore I am sorry as I did
> not see previous messages make it to the list.)
>
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Re: Cartier-Bresson at the High

[Eric Weir]

On Feb 9, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> If you're in the Atlanta area, or plan to visit any time soon, I just got an 
> email from the High Museum of Art that they'll be running "Henri 
> Cartier-Bresson: The Modern Century" 19 Feb 2011 through 29 May 2011. There 
> will also be a free, but limited seating, lecture on HCB by Peter Galassi, 
> Chief Curator of the Dept of Photography at the Museum of Modern Art.

Looked for information about the lecture on the High website, Doug, but didn't 
find anything. Do you have details?

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Newbie with DSLR and soon to be an owner of a K-R when it arrives...

[Jeffery Johnson]

Howdy..
My new first time DSLR, the K-R, is still in Knoxville and due to the lovely
snow we had yesterday afternoon/evening it is delayed. (It took me an hour
and a half to get home and needless to say I did not even attempt to go into
work today.) It was supposed to be here this evening but now it may not
arrive until tomorrow or worse not tell Monday. With the camera I also went
ahead and got a remote and two 52mm filters for the 18-55mm kit lens as I
already have two 58mm filters that will work with the 55-300mm kit lens.
This coming week I am going to get an adapter so I can use AA batteries and
a second li-on battery. 

Down the road when our monies are not so tight and once I am comfortable
with the K-R and DSLR photography I would not mind getting a couple of extra
lenses. The following list is a few lenses I have come across that I find of
interest and they are not listed in any order of importance. Perhaps someone
on the list has a spare one of these lenses they could donate to a newbie or
keep an eye out at local flea markets, yard sales and the like. Just keep in
mind if by chance you do come across a lens listed I truly cannot afford an
arm and a leg for a lens.

Super-Takumar 55mm f=1:2/55 lens
Pentax 50mm f/1.7 SMC-M
Pentax KA f2.8 28mm lens
SMC Pentax 100mm F4 Macro
SMC PENTAX-FA 1:2.8 50mm MACRO
SMC Pentax 30mm F2.8
SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1.7

Also at some point down the road going to look into an TTL flash but to be
honest I am not certain which one to get that I can afford so it is rather
low on the list of items.

I also would like to ask "When is Spring and when will it finally get here?"
I am so so tired of snow and to a degree the cold but more so the snow, ice
and bad roads. Oh and some good books or perhaps good websites for us DSLR
newbies.

Thanks,
Jeffery Johnson
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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[eckinator]

hope the output is some standard format like .nmea so you could to the
same with any old handheld

2011/2/10, Bruce Walker :
> On 11-02-10 2:34 PM, eckinator wrote:
>> maybe it listens for the shutter? =)
>> wouldn't it be enough to timesync and then match gps log time and exif
>> time in post?
>
> That's exactly what some of these devices do. They simply record where
> you've been at some predetermined rate (likely every few seconds). Then
> back at home, software supplied with the device matches the images' EXIF
> times with your location log and updates the EXIF.
>
> So you shouldn't even need to attach the device to the camera really,
> just carry it in your pocket.
>
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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[Walter Gilbert]

 Ha!

The most reliable of all appendages.



On 2/10/2011 1:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: David Parsons

The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.



Unless you have really dark hair.  ;-D


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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-02-10 2:34 PM, eckinator wrote:

maybe it listens for the shutter? =)
wouldn't it be enough to timesync and then match gps log time and exif
time in post?


That's exactly what some of these devices do. They simply record where 
you've been at some predetermined rate (likely every few seconds). Then 
back at home, software supplied with the device matches the images' EXIF 
times with your location log and updates the EXIF.


So you shouldn't even need to attach the device to the camera really, 
just carry it in your pocket.


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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[Paul Stenquist]

Honky hands, like mine, will generally put you one stop under. But that works. 
I can do the math for one stop:-).
Paul

On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: David Parsons
>> The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.
>> 
> 
> Unless you have really dark hair.  ;-D
> 
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Re: B&H photo android app

[Paul Stenquist]

Saw the B&H solicitation for that app. Can't imagine why I would want to shop 
for equipment on my phone, other than to jack up my phone bill.
Paul
On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bhphoto
> 
> I wonder if it disables itself on shabbos, and if so, local time or New York 
> time.
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Re: Protesting global warming

[AlunFoto]

2011/2/10 John Sessoms :
> From: AlunFoto
>>
>> 2011/2/10 Cotty :
>>>
>>> > On 10/2/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> >

 >>Paid a visit to the House At Pooh Corner?
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Mounted a peasant.
>>
>> Or a heffalump?
>
> It's from Cotty. Your mind has to be down in the gutter to understand it.

Yep. Never challenge Cotty for a game of poohsticks.

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B&H photo android app

[Larry Colen]

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bhphoto

I wonder if it disables itself on shabbos, and if so, local time or New York 
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Re: PESO - In Canada We Call Them "Elevators"

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:16 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> All except for in the office building at 360 Bay Street, Toronto:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-canada-we-call-them-elevators.html
> 
> Notwithstanding to the reference to Mother England, I do like this
> lobby a lot.  Beautiful marble, lovely design, soft lighting.
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

lovely shot.  Reminds me of the time I was riding in an elevator, noticed who 
made it and realized that I was in Schindler's lift.


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Re: Sensor Cleaning

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
>> I store my camera and lenses in a bag of sand and have never needed to
>> clean them.  They are just that awesome.
> 
> One can only assume from this that you don't feel the need to make
> photographs with them, eh?

What a coincidence, that's the conclusion people come to after looking at my 
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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[eckinator]

maybe it listens for the shutter? =)
wouldn't it be enough to timesync and then match gps log time and exif
time in post?

2011/2/10, John Sessoms :
> From: eckinator
>> maybe it is just a data logger and only attaches to the hotshoe
>> physically - there are others like it so it could just be redabged OEM
>> who knows; I'll just wait and see =)
>>
>> 2011/2/10, John Sessoms :
>>> > Pentax doesn't trigger the hot-shoe at shutter speeds above sync. How
>>> > does this thing work if it's mounted there?
>
> It's got to have some sort of output from the camera to tell it when a
> photo is taken so it knows when to log the coordinates. I'm curious how
> it gets that information since the hot-shoe it appears to mount on
> doesn't trigger all the time.
>
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Re: Protesting global warming

[John Sessoms]

From: AlunFoto

2011/2/10 Cotty :

> On 10/2/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>

>>Paid a visit to the House At Pooh Corner?

>
> Mounted a peasant.

Or a heffalump?


It's from Cotty. Your mind has to be down in the gutter to understand it.


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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[John Sessoms]

From: David Parsons

The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.



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Re: Double peso - something slightly different

[John Sessoms]

From: Sasha Sobol

Christine, I do not know exactly why she dressed this way - she likes
acting, cinema etc.
It is not a play she is in, she rather wanted to try her in this emploi.

--Sasha

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Christine  Aguila  wrote:

> The first is definitely an in your face shot. ?:-) ?Very dramatic and
> powerful. ?I'm intrigued: ?why did your daughter "dress-up" as she did? ?Is
> she in a play or something? ?Cheers, Christine
>


If she's interested in theater, she doesn't necessarily need to have a 
specific current role in mind to start building a portfolio showing her 
range as an actor.



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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[John Sessoms]

From: eckinator

maybe it is just a data logger and only attaches to the hotshoe
physically - there are others like it so it could just be redabged OEM
who knows; I'll just wait and see =)

2011/2/10, John Sessoms :

> Pentax doesn't trigger the hot-shoe at shutter speeds above sync. How
> does this thing work if it's mounted there?


It's got to have some sort of output from the camera to tell it when a 
photo is taken so it knows when to log the coordinates. I'm curious how 
it gets that information since the hot-shoe it appears to mount on 
doesn't trigger all the time.



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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>-Original Message-
>From: David J Brooks [mailto:pentko...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 01:57 PM
>To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>Subject: Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting
>
>On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
>> The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.
>
>Frank and i cannot use this method. We wear gloves most of the year.
>
>Dave

Really.
Canadian?
or you living in Tulsa today?

Sincerely, 

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Re: FS: sima neck support

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> Forgive my spelling, please.  :-)

I may be the only one here who will.:-)

Dave
>
> I guess a really skinny person could use it as a waist strap.
> Or maybe it's a shoulder strap.
> Whatever.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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>
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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
> The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.

Frank and i cannot use this method. We wear gloves most of the year.

Dave
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:31 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>> From: Walter Gilbert
>>>
>>>    Thanks, David/Collin/Paul.
>>>
>>> I think I understand, now.
>>>
>>> I was thinking that since the snow was so glaringly bright that it would
>>> throw the meter off irrespective of the actual subject -- assuming the
>>> subject isn't the snow itself.
>>>
>>> But, as I understand you all now, as long as there's a dark enough
>>> counterpoint to the snow within the frame, the metering will average
>>> out.  My question in that case is, does the ratio of dark to light
>>> matter?  Say, if you have a snowy field and a small black dog in that
>>> field, taking a photo of a distant grey object, is that enough to get
>>> the correct averaging?  Or do I need to compensate for the dominance of
>>> the snowy field within the frame?
>>>
>>> In other words, does the meter average the difference between the
>>> darkest and the brightest objects in the frame, or the total amount of
>>> darkness and brightness in the frame?
>>>
>>> Thanks again, y'all.  I do appreciate your patience.
>>
>> If I remember correctly, you started this thread that you're shooting with a
>> K1000?
>>
>> The K1000 meter averages the entire frame. No additional weight is given to
>> the center.
>>
>> If the scene is mostly brighter than 18% gray, the meter recommendation will
>> be under-exposed, you have to "over-expose" to compensate and get the
>> correct exposure.
>>
>> If the scene is mostly darker, the meter recommendation is over-exposed, and
>> you have to "under-expose" to compensate.
>>
>> Blue skies opposite the sun, sunlit grass and weathered asphalt paving are
>> all reasonable approximations of 18% gray. If nothing else, fill the
>> viewfinder with one of these and set your exposure, then re-frame the scene.
>>
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Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:43 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> Did you manual focus? If you're shooting wide open, and your autofocus is off 
> by even a relatively small amount, your results will be soft. The performance 
> of this lens on my K20 is what first convinced me that fine focus adjustment 
> is a necessity. I've since seen that the FA50/1.4 required more adjustment 
> than any of my DA or DA* lenses. 
> Paul

I ran versions of the test with both autofocus, and manual focus with the 
katzeye, and got very similar results.

Some of it was CA.  Oddly, to me, this lens doesn't seem to be in the lightroom 
lens correction database.



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Re: Sensor Cleaning

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
> I store my camera and lenses in a bag of sand and have never needed to
> clean them.  They are just that awesome.

One can only assume from this that you don't feel the need to make
photographs with them, eh?

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Re: PESO 2011 - 023 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thanks Collin ...
Hm. The 'tilt to the left' wasn't visible to my eyes until you said
the words. Now I can't help seeing it. ;-)

Still working on the visualization for this set so the comments are
very helpful.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> I just can't get past the tilt to the left.
> Otherwise I always enjoy b&w foggy shots.
> Tx.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Collin Brendemuehl
> http://kerygmainstitute.org
>
> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
> -- Jim Elliott
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>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:ramar...@mac.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:58 PM
>>To: 'DUG', 'PAW Picture-A-Week project', 'SeePhoto Talk', 'BAPhotoShooters', 
>>'PDML List'
>>Subject: PESO 2011 - 023 - GDG
>>
>>Just a singleton for now ... Was out for a morning walk a couple of weeks 
>>back and became entranced by shapes and soft fog interplay. I think there's 
>>enough in what I captured for another 7-9 photo set, but haven't gotten to 
>>the processing yet.
>>
>>Anyway, here's one to enjoy:
>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/lightbox/
>>or
>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/
>>if the Flickr lightbox doesnt work for you.
>>
>>Thanks for looking, comments appreciated.
>>
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Re: Protesting global warming

[AlunFoto]

2011/2/10 Cotty :
> On 10/2/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Paid a visit to the House At Pooh Corner?
>
> Mounted a peasant.

Or a heffalump?

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Christian]

He'll be a house dog but I'm going to train him to pull me on skis in 
winter "Skijorning" and a scooter in the summer "Scootering."  Another 
interesting looking activity is "bikejorning" where the dog pulls while 
you ride a mountain bike.  Strangely enough the breed that does the 
best in Skijorning competition is German Shorthair Pointers, which was 
the last dog I had.


Based on his pedigree which is world-class and if I have the time, I 
might look at conformation but I really hate the politics and absurdity 
of dog shows.


Christian

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller 
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Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


Is he going to be a house dog or will you make him work for a living - 
weight

pull, sled pull etc ?


-Original Message-

From: Christian 
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but 

chances

are they won't read this either...).

He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd
reindeer, hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its
human family warm during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to 

about

23in tall and weigh up to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg
according to my web-based real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale
converter.

The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.

Christian

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Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


What Paul said.

What breed (s) is he?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind



Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
Paul

On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:


He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until

February

27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after

favorite

cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: Protesting global warming

[Cotty]

On 10/2/11, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Paid a visit to the House At Pooh Corner?

Mounted a peasant.

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Re: PESO 2011 - 023 - GDG

[Collin Brendemuehl]

I just can't get past the tilt to the left.
Otherwise I always enjoy b&w foggy shots.
Tx.

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
http://kerygmainstitute.org 

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>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:ramar...@mac.com]
>Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:58 PM
>To: 'DUG', 'PAW Picture-A-Week project', 'SeePhoto Talk', 'BAPhotoShooters', 
>'PDML List'
>Subject: PESO 2011 - 023 - GDG
>
>Just a singleton for now ... Was out for a morning walk a couple of weeks back 
>and became entranced by shapes and soft fog interplay. I think there's enough 
>in what I captured for another 7-9 photo set, but haven't gotten to the 
>processing yet. 
>
>Anyway, here's one to enjoy:
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/lightbox/
>or 
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/
>if the Flickr lightbox doesnt work for you. 
>
>Thanks for looking, comments appreciated. 
>
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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[David Parsons]

The palm of your hand is also reasonably close to 18% as well.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:31 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Walter Gilbert
>>
>>    Thanks, David/Collin/Paul.
>>
>> I think I understand, now.
>>
>> I was thinking that since the snow was so glaringly bright that it would
>> throw the meter off irrespective of the actual subject -- assuming the
>> subject isn't the snow itself.
>>
>> But, as I understand you all now, as long as there's a dark enough
>> counterpoint to the snow within the frame, the metering will average
>> out.  My question in that case is, does the ratio of dark to light
>> matter?  Say, if you have a snowy field and a small black dog in that
>> field, taking a photo of a distant grey object, is that enough to get
>> the correct averaging?  Or do I need to compensate for the dominance of
>> the snowy field within the frame?
>>
>> In other words, does the meter average the difference between the
>> darkest and the brightest objects in the frame, or the total amount of
>> darkness and brightness in the frame?
>>
>> Thanks again, y'all.  I do appreciate your patience.
>
> If I remember correctly, you started this thread that you're shooting with a
> K1000?
>
> The K1000 meter averages the entire frame. No additional weight is given to
> the center.
>
> If the scene is mostly brighter than 18% gray, the meter recommendation will
> be under-exposed, you have to "over-expose" to compensate and get the
> correct exposure.
>
> If the scene is mostly darker, the meter recommendation is over-exposed, and
> you have to "under-expose" to compensate.
>
> Blue skies opposite the sun, sunlit grass and weathered asphalt paving are
> all reasonable approximations of 18% gray. If nothing else, fill the
> viewfinder with one of these and set your exposure, then re-frame the scene.
>
>
>
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PESO 2011 - 023 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Just a singleton for now ... Was out for a morning walk a couple of weeks back 
and became entranced by shapes and soft fog interplay. I think there's enough 
in what I captured for another 7-9 photo set, but haven't gotten to the 
processing yet. 

Anyway, here's one to enjoy:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/lightbox/
or 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5432476239/
if the Flickr lightbox doesnt work for you. 

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Re: OT: Self help

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 02:07:06PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote:
> 2011/2/9 Bob W :
> > http://f2.org/humour/howalien.html
> 
> Blimey. :-)
> 
> Jostein

Ah, memories.
I had a copy of this in a book back when I was a teenager.


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PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks

[Don Guthrie]

These bird pictures are killing me! More please. I have none of my own 
worth looking at. :)





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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:01:05 -0600
From: Bob Sullivan 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Found these guys today, just standing around hunting bugs in the grass.

https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818

K-5 and DA60-250/4 lens, lots of backlight corrected in Lightroom 3.2/

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Re: Double peso - something slightly different

[Sasha Sobol]

Thanks to everybody commenting.
I agree that the first one is more intense, but I somehow like both.

--Sasha

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> Those are both great.  The first is definitely more intense but I
> think the second may be a finer piece of work.
> -T
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/
>> My daughter asked me to take some photos of her.
>> I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing.
>> Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work.
>> Thanks,
>> --Sasha
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Re: Double peso - something slightly different

[Sasha Sobol]

Steve, it is interesting that you find a contradiction in pose and
outfit in the second shot.
My photographers never know nothing about their own stuff :)

--Sasha

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:28 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2011-02-05 17:03 , Sasha Sobol wrote:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/
>> My daughter asked me to take some photos of her.
>> I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing.
>> Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work.
>
> she looks strong in the first, vulnerable, even scared in the second; both
> impressive as photographic craft, but my critique would be more about what
> is conveyed:
>
> the first looks more posed in expression, perhaps a little too tense, and
> would be more interesting for me with a little of the vulnerability (maybe
> not quite head on vantage point, or eyes not directly into camera)
>
> in the second there is a conflict between her expression and the slightly
> overwrought costume; i would consider reducing the illumination below the
> shoulders, or even a less striking outfit to avoid distracting from that
> vulnerability
>
> of course if she's wanting that look of strength, you could pretty much
> invert my suggestions, and maybe make a more active pose in the second,
> though i doubt they'd be as compelling to me personally
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Re: Double peso - something slightly different

[Sasha Sobol]

David, it might well be that American Idol epoch is coming next :)
--Sasha

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:25 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Love the first shot. Very dramatic.
>
> My guess would be she despises Ameriacan Idol as I do,?;-)
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/
>> My daughter asked me to take some photos of her.
>> I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing.
>> Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work.
>> Thanks,
>> --Sasha
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PESO - Thaw

[Don Guthrie]

Whenever I see pictures like this I think of the printing term "spot 
color" Nice catch. The color in the playground equipment stands out as 
well. A vertical crop works also. But I sorta like the wide view to set 
the scene.





Message: 4
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:34:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Womer 
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This boy's coat and cap relieved the dreariness of a wet, sloppy, slushy 
evening in the park:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12617712&size=lg

(K7, FA 24-90)

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Re: Double peso - something slightly different

[Sasha Sobol]

Christine, I do not know exactly why she dressed this way - she likes
acting, cinema etc.
It is not a play she is in, she rather wanted to try her in this emploi.

--Sasha

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Christine  Aguila  wrote:
> The first is definitely an in your face shot.  :-)  Very dramatic and
> powerful.  I'm intrigued:  why did your daughter "dress-up" as she did?  Is
> she in a play or something?  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Sasha Sobol" 
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>
>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/
>> My daughter asked me to take some photos of her.
>> I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing.
>> Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work.
>> Thanks,
>> --Sasha
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FS: sima neck support

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Forgive my spelling, please.  :-)

I guess a really skinny person could use it as a waist strap.
Or maybe it's a shoulder strap.
Whatever.

Sincerely, 

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FS: sima next support

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Anyone need a neck strap support?
Swivel head with quick-release plate.
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/sima.jpg
$10 + shipping.  PayPal ok.

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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[Walter Gilbert]

 Thanks for the tips, John!

I'll give those a try this evening and see what I come up with.

-- Walt

On 2/10/2011 9:31 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Walter Gilbert

Thanks, David/Collin/Paul.

I think I understand, now.

I was thinking that since the snow was so glaringly bright that it would
throw the meter off irrespective of the actual subject -- assuming the
subject isn't the snow itself.

But, as I understand you all now, as long as there's a dark enough
counterpoint to the snow within the frame, the metering will average
out.  My question in that case is, does the ratio of dark to light
matter?  Say, if you have a snowy field and a small black dog in that
field, taking a photo of a distant grey object, is that enough to get
the correct averaging?  Or do I need to compensate for the dominance of
the snowy field within the frame?

In other words, does the meter average the difference between the
darkest and the brightest objects in the frame, or the total amount of
darkness and brightness in the frame?

Thanks again, y'all.  I do appreciate your patience.


If I remember correctly, you started this thread that you're shooting 
with a K1000?


The K1000 meter averages the entire frame. No additional weight is 
given to the center.


If the scene is mostly brighter than 18% gray, the meter 
recommendation will be under-exposed, you have to "over-expose" to 
compensate and get the correct exposure.


If the scene is mostly darker, the meter recommendation is 
over-exposed, and you have to "under-expose" to compensate.


Blue skies opposite the sun, sunlit grass and weathered asphalt paving 
are all reasonable approximations of 18% gray. If nothing else, fill 
the viewfinder with one of these and set your exposure, then re-frame 
the scene.




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Re: PESO - The Effect of the Cell Phone

[Paul Sorenson]

There's usually a dumpster close by...

-p

On 2/10/2011 6:27 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:32 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:


Yeah, Superman had to make some serious life-style changes.

It never occurred to me, but I guess you're right.  Where does he
change nowadays?

cheers,
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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[eckinator]

maybe it is just a data logger and only attaches to the hotshoe
physically - there are others like it so it could just be redabged OEM
who knows; I'll just wait and see =)

2011/2/10, John Sessoms :
> Pentax doesn't trigger the hot-shoe at shutter speeds above sync. How
> does this thing work if it's mounted there?
>
> From: eckinator
>> well then how about a flash with a gps hotshoe on top? =)
>>
>> 2011/2/9 John Mullan :
>>> > Probably interferes with the antenna's reception of the satellite
>>> > signals.
>>> >
>>> > jm
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message- From: eckinator
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:36 AM
>>> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> > Subject: Re: Pentax GPS accessory
>>> >
>>> > why don'y they make one with a hotshoe on top?
>>> >
>>> > 2011/2/9 Dario Bonazza :
 >>
 >> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/425/947/html/017.jpg.html
 >>
 >> Dario
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Re: Pentax GPS accessory

[John Sessoms]

Pentax doesn't trigger the hot-shoe at shutter speeds above sync. How 
does this thing work if it's mounted there?


From: eckinator

well then how about a flash with a gps hotshoe on top? =)

2011/2/9 John Mullan :

> Probably interferes with the antenna's reception of the satellite signals.
>
> jm
>
> -Original Message- From: eckinator
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:36 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
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>
> why don'y they make one with a hotshoe on top?
>
> 2011/2/9 Dario Bonazza :

>>
>> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/425/947/html/017.jpg.html
>>
>> Dario



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Re: OT: Self help

[John Sessoms]

From: Boris Liberman

Bob,

Having read the footnote one therein I have amusingly noticed that I was
just about to ask you what exactly you meant by "English" and what was
the difference in the context thereof between British and English and if
I may be so bold to add here - American.

Surely I should read this text in its entirety as it is undoubtedly
going to prove to be most entertaining...

Boris



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Re: Advice solicitation for analog shooting

[John Sessoms]

From: Walter Gilbert

Thanks, David/Collin/Paul.

I think I understand, now.

I was thinking that since the snow was so glaringly bright that it would
throw the meter off irrespective of the actual subject -- assuming the
subject isn't the snow itself.

But, as I understand you all now, as long as there's a dark enough
counterpoint to the snow within the frame, the metering will average
out.  My question in that case is, does the ratio of dark to light
matter?  Say, if you have a snowy field and a small black dog in that
field, taking a photo of a distant grey object, is that enough to get
the correct averaging?  Or do I need to compensate for the dominance of
the snowy field within the frame?

In other words, does the meter average the difference between the
darkest and the brightest objects in the frame, or the total amount of
darkness and brightness in the frame?

Thanks again, y'all.  I do appreciate your patience.


If I remember correctly, you started this thread that you're shooting 
with a K1000?


The K1000 meter averages the entire frame. No additional weight is given 
to the center.


If the scene is mostly brighter than 18% gray, the meter recommendation 
will be under-exposed, you have to "over-expose" to compensate and get 
the correct exposure.


If the scene is mostly darker, the meter recommendation is over-exposed, 
and you have to "under-expose" to compensate.


Blue skies opposite the sun, sunlit grass and weathered asphalt paving 
are all reasonable approximations of 18% gray. If nothing else, fill the 
viewfinder with one of these and set your exposure, then re-frame the scene.




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Re: PESO - In Canada We Call Them "Elevators"

[David J Brooks]

Good contrast in the lighting and shadow details.

Dave

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:16 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> All except for in the office building at 360 Bay Street, Toronto:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-canada-we-call-them-elevators.html
>
> Notwithstanding to the reference to Mother England, I do like this
> lobby a lot.  Beautiful marble, lovely design, soft lighting.
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks

[David J Brooks]

Very nice Bob.

Again good detail and colour;.

Dave

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Found these guys today, just standing around hunting bugs in the grass.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818
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Re: White Snow and Red Barn

[David J Brooks]

Very pretty winter scene

Dave

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Once more into the breech.
>
> http://donspix.posterous.com/white-snow-red-barn-says-home-to-some-photo
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> Rural Iowa (as if there was any other type of Iowa) Comments are welcomed
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Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

[Igor Roshchin]

Wed Feb 9 12:23:34 CST 2011
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Doug Franklin  
> wrote:
> >> ... I want to know why or under what circumstances I might wish to use a
> >> particular tool or technique. ...
> >
> > Yep.  It's a really common problem with technical documentation.  They
> > (usually) tell you 'what' and 'how'.  Rarely to they give you any idea of
> > 'why' and 'when'.
> 
> It's a difficult thing to keep in one's head while writing
> documentation for complex technical subjects. We tend to get caught up
> in the trees and forget to consider the forest and the landscape in
> which it sits ...
> 
> I make a point of actually writing down, for each element of a system
> I'm documenting, four basic questions:
> 
>   What is this?
>   Why is it important to know about it?
>   How and When is it used?
>   How is it implemented?
> 
> Having those four questions in front of me as I work my way through a
> mass of engineering notes, design specs, and bug reporte, many of
> which may be way over my head - totally opaque! - at first, keeps me
> focused on explaining to an audience what they need to know in
> language they can understand.

That's great!

That's basically what they say in the books about scientific/engineering
writing. The very first thing a writer has to recognize are these
three factors: audience, purpose, and occasion.
The first, audience, defines "what do they know?", "why are they
reading?", "what expectations (and biases?) they have?"
The second, purpose, can be "to perform" or "to persuade".
The last one, occasion, defines things like format, formality,
deadlines, politics, etc.
>From these considerations, the questions and the rationale you listed
follow.

I was teaching this material to physics major senior students just a 
week ago in my course "The Art of Scientific Communication".
If anyone is interested in reading, - I have a list of a few good books 
that discuss these and related topics in detail in a rather clear language:
http://www.worldcat.org/profiles/roshchin/lists/1723072

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Re: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks

[Jack Davis]

As I said, more of the sign isn't critical, but if the word "Festival" were 
complete, it would be a slightly cleaner for me.
Appreciate your comments re my latest hawk shot. I called it a Red Tail, but 
turns out it's, also, a Red-Shouldered. Awhile back I Googled "bird 
identification" and have used the resulting site a couple times. They corrected 
me, in this case.

Jack



--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> From: Bob Sullivan 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 5:21 AM
> Jack,
> Thanks, there really isn't much more of the sign to
> include.
> I cropped out a bunch of sky at the top, but not much
> sign.
> The back lighting wasn't a problem until they got up
> against the sky.
> My chance to catch these guys really made your hawk shot
> more impressive.
> Getting a sharp bird on the wing is really special.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > You did well in dealing with the strong back light.
> Not that important, but is there a little more of the sign
> available?
> > Really nice catch, Bob!
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/9/11, Bob Sullivan 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Bob Sullivan 
> >> Subject: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks
> >> To: "PDML" 
> >> Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 8:01 PM
> >> Found these guys today, just standing
> >> around hunting bugs in the grass.
> >>
> >> https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818
> >>
> >> K-5 and DA60-250/4 lens, lots of backlight
> corrected in
> >> Lightroom 3.2/
> >>
> >> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks

[Bob Sullivan]

Jack,
Thanks, there really isn't much more of the sign to include.
I cropped out a bunch of sky at the top, but not much sign.
The back lighting wasn't a problem until they got up against the sky.
My chance to catch these guys really made your hawk shot more impressive.
Getting a sharp bird on the wing is really special.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> You did well in dealing with the strong back light. Not that important, but 
> is there a little more of the sign available?
> Really nice catch, Bob!
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Wed, 2/9/11, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>
>> From: Bob Sullivan 
>> Subject: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks
>> To: "PDML" 
>> Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 8:01 PM
>> Found these guys today, just standing
>> around hunting bugs in the grass.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818
>>
>> K-5 and DA60-250/4 lens, lots of backlight corrected in
>> Lightroom 3.2/
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>> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Protesting global warming

[AlunFoto]

2011/2/10 Cotty :
>
> Mooted a pheasant.

Paid a visit to the House At Pooh Corner?


Tidley-pom,
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Re: OT: Self help

[AlunFoto]

2011/2/9 Bob W :
> http://f2.org/humour/howalien.html

Blimey. :-)

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Re: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks

[Jack Davis]

You did well in dealing with the strong back light. Not that important, but is 
there a little more of the sign available?
Really nice catch, Bob!

Jack

--- On Wed, 2/9/11, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> From: Bob Sullivan 
> Subject: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks
> To: "PDML" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 8:01 PM
> Found these guys today, just standing
> around hunting bugs in the grass.
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818
> 
> K-5 and DA60-250/4 lens, lots of backlight corrected in
> Lightroom 3.2/
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Re: pfa 50/1.4 sharpness

[Paul Stenquist]

On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> I've always had mixed feelings about my pfa 50/1.4.  There have been times 
> when I really needed the extra 2/3 stop of speed that it gave me over my 
> f/1.8 glass. When you're shooting slower than 1/15 second and your subjects 
> are moving, that's a critical difference in speed. On the other hand, I never 
> really gained any affection for it.  When I use a super tak 50/1.4 I can 
> forgive it a lot because of the beautiful way that the manual focus feels. I 
> bought my DA 40 for its size, but quickly grew to love the pictures it took. 
> If my FA77 were a woman, I'd be tempted to propose marriage.  But the PFA 
> 50/1.4 is almost the dirty little secret in my lens bag.  When I need it, I 
> use it, but I almost never just put it on the camera to go shooting.  I'm 
> more likely to grab the DA40, or especially now, the 16-50.
> 
> A week or so ago, I took some shots that made me wonder if something might be 
> wrong with it.  I was also using a teleconverter at the time, so I wasn't 
> going to automatically blame either piece of glass.  I just spent some time 
> doing some trivial sharpness tests, and it turns out that between f/1.4 and 
> f/2.0 it gets a lot better, and much better yet by 2.8  Which, I guess, is 
> the reputation of the lens.  Soft wide open, but reasonably sharp if you stop 
> it down a bit.
> 
> I suppose there are a couple of reasons I hadn't really noticed this before.  
> The first one is that when you're pushing the sensor as hard as you can, and 
> shooting at some stupidly slow shutter speed, the loss of sharpness from 
> running the lens wide open was barely going to be noticed. Another likely 
> reason is that I don't actually spend a lot of time pixel peeping, and as 
> glaringly obvious as something might be at 2:1 on a 24" monitor, it may not 
> be nearly as obvious under normal use.
> 
> So, I guess that there really isn't anything wrong with the lens, and now I 
> think I know why I never really fell in love with it. For that matter, the 
> ridiculous sensitivity of modern sensors are going to pretty soon make it 
> totally unnecessary to shoot with any glass faster than f/2.8.  But, part of 
> me is still rather disappointed at how sharply performance dropped off at the 
> wide end.

Did you manual focus? If you're shooting wide open, and your autofocus is off 
by even a relatively small amount, your results will be soft. The performance 
of this lens on my K20 is what first convinced me that fine focus adjustment is 
a necessity. I've since seen that the FA50/1.4 required more adjustment than 
any of my DA or DA* lenses. 
Paul


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Re: PESO - The Effect of the Cell Phone

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:32 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> Yeah, Superman had to make some serious life-style changes.

It never occurred to me, but I guess you're right.  Where does he
change nowadays?

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frank

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Re: PESO: Red Shoulder Hawks

[Bob Sullivan]

Walt,
We saw the first one sitting on a fire plug along the side of the road.
We stopped and watched for a while and #2 joined him.
They seemed to be feeding on bugs in the grass.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>   Very cool, Bob!
>
> I've seen two large hawks near near my home within the past several months,
> but haven't even come close to getting a decent shot of one.  It's getting a
> little frustrating, I must say.
>
> -- Walt
>
> On 2/9/2011 10:01 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Found these guys today, just standing around hunting bugs in the grass.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Exports2011#5571902437893618818
>>
>> K-5 and DA60-250/4 lens, lots of backlight corrected in Lightroom 3.2/
>>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>
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Re: PESO - Matchy-Matchy

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:

> I kind of agree with your better half. But really, people should wear 
> whatever the hell they want and not pay attention to the rest of us.

Judy's the first one to say that self-expression is more important
than obeying any "fashion rules".  In this case, she agreed that it
worked for the young lady in question.

> Of course, we get to ridicule their choices if we don't agree, but that's 
> what makes walking around the streets/malls fun!

Exactly!!

;-)

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Re: PESO - Matchy-Matchy

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Frank, I love the way you use color when color is the story and you use
> black and white when the story tells itself. A gift I think.

Well, B&W is my "default", but there are times that the photo would
make very little sense were it not in colour.  I kind of feel that I
"have to" leave it colour, not that I "want to", if you know what I
mean.

This is one of those cases where colour is simply required.

Thanks for your kind words, and thanks to everyone else who looked and
commented.

cheers,
frank

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PESO - In Canada We Call Them "Elevators"

[frank theriault]

All except for in the office building at 360 Bay Street, Toronto:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-canada-we-call-them-elevators.html

Notwithstanding to the reference to Mother England, I do like this
lobby a lot.  Beautiful marble, lovely design, soft lighting.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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