Re: Do You Remember When?
On 13/10/2011 7:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: BW film might still rule if film didn't curl, and if the enlarger and/or scanner were perfect. But in the real world, digital rules. And digital is perfect? Actually, in the real world, what rules is the media that the artist feels most comfortable working with. This may be digital, it may equally be oil paint or macrame. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
In terms of DR film still rules over digital. On 14/10/2011, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Well, I enjoy both PS and chemicals. I might be tempted, though, by the new 36mp Nikon. That is 200 pixels per mm, roughly the resolution of a very good lens. But at this point bw film still rules. BW film might still rule if film didn't curl, and if the enlarger and/or scanner were perfect. But in the real world, digital rules. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-5 DSLR of the decade?
I don't know the reviewer, but he seems quite happy with the K-5 as an all-around camera http://photographic-central.blogspot.com/2011/10/pentax-k5-dslr-review.html -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Cradle Will Fall
I'm a couple weeks behind on PDML and I just looked at a few dozen PESOs and this was the first one that made me hit the reply key. Beautiful shot. Exquisite backgrounds, which matters. -T On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here's a shot I took today that's a little more of a general audiences type image. The leaves are just now starting to turn on a few trees in western Kentucky, and this particular leaf caught my eye. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193992814/ K100Ds, K 50/1.4, Manual, f/5.6(?), 1/100, ISO 200 Again, comments and critiques are welcome. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Football Sunday!
Nice pic! Would like to see a color version. -T On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Just a little photo-play. Definitely, a Bears-sweatshirt-day--nippy. Tough season to be a Bears fan this year. Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/footballsunday/content/IMGP7275_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - March!
I'd crank the contrast a bit, but that photo has a whole lot of life in it. -T On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I attended a march/protest in San Francisco on September 24th. It part of a world-wide environmental event day sponsored by 350.org (Bill McKibben). If you want to know more go to http://www.350.org. This was a grab shot, they were moving quickly (toward me), but I am rather happy with it. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/march.htm Comments welcome. Marnie :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - China Tree, Detail
exquisite. -T On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Comments and criticisms appreciated... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14332853size=md Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW91 - Another drop
Full of drama. Excellent. -T On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:54 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA*50-135mm@50, 1/80s, f/5.6, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT printf(goodbye world\n);
Wednesday evening, on another mailing list I was pointed to a saddening post on Tim Bray's blog. Last week, Dennis Ritchie passed away. This news will almost certainly cause one of two reactions: Who? or Dismay that we have lost someone who has arguably contributed more to the world of computing than Jobs, Torvalds and Stallman combined. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT printf(goodbye world\n);
On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Wednesday evening, on another mailing list I was pointed to a saddening post on Tim Bray's blog. Last week, Dennis Ritchie passed away. This news will almost certainly cause one of two reactions: Who? or Dismay that we have lost someone who has arguably contributed more to the world of computing than Jobs, Torvalds and Stallman combined. I'm in the second camp but I'm pleased that the mainstream news media has reported the news. I haven't used C for a long time. My last projects were a horrible CGI web database and a fun little LCD module driven through the parallel port. BTW I personally would use puts() instead of printf() in that situation :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memorial Park REDUX
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:28 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: This is a redo of a picture I posted in late Sept. Stan and several other posters kindly (and strongly suggested) I missed the angle on the subject. I replaced the one there with new one I took last week. One is highly post processed and the other is not for those who prefer the basics. No matter what you think about the photos, I took what was great advice and I am much happier with the result. http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/ The second set down below the golden trees. I think this is a much better composition. I think the top image is slightly over processed but this mainly affects the trees. If you have software that handles layers and masks you could mask out the trees and restrict the processing to the sky and foreground. I think I'd also remove the branches intruding on the left. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Bus Stop
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:19 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I am reviewing my Rome 2009 images, getting back into the Blurb book I have planned. I came across an image that intrigues me; I am curious what others will say WRT rendering and subject matter. So, two images taken within a second or two. Each rendered both in color and in BW. (And for those who may have seen these earlier on Posterous, I have deleted the original and put up a corrected version.) Which do you prefer? Other comments? http://smhalpin.posterous.com/bus-stop I prefer the colour version with the moving car. Both colour versions help focus attention on the person at the bus stop whereas she tends to get lost in the background in the BW versions. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT printf(goodbye world\n);
Wired is on it: http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/10/thedennisritchieeffect/ Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Night Photography: free eBook
Just a heads-up for anyone interested in trying night photography. Here's a free introductory 24 page eBook (PDF) on the subject ... http://availablelightimages.com/blog/night-photography/ The content looks pretty good. Author makes a couple of questionable assertions, but stuff like his suggestions about doing high-ISO quick grabs (eg 30 secs) to check the histogram prior to doing a 2 hour exposure seem spot on. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
BW film might still rule if film didn't curl, and if the enlarger and/or scanner were perfect. But in the real world, digital rules. There is a reason I do not do 135 film, but still do sheet film. It's nice to be able to burn in low-contrast detail, something that cannot be done with digital, afaik. Contact prints do not curl. :-) Oh, and with smaller sheet film a little masking tape on the edges makes for a suitable flatness. And it's nice to be able to burn in detail that does not yet exist on digital. But I will say that PS lens design compensation is probably the neatest feature around. Lens have barrel or pincushion problems? Erase the error up front. Might be a great improvement for the 43/1.9. That forthcoming N 36mp body, full frame. Sony sensor. That's 5k x 7k pixels. 5K pixels over 24mm == roughly 200 pixels / mm. That begins to match the resolving power of 100 line pairs / mm. And with reduced CofC issues (points do not become blurs, consequently reducing the CofC) for enlargement, which is *really* where digital has its advantage, that's awesome. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT printf(goodbye world\n);
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:15:32 -0700 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Wednesday evening, on another mailing list I was pointed to a saddening post on Tim Bray's blog. Last week, Dennis Ritchie passed away. This news will almost certainly cause one of two reactions: Who? or Dismay that we have lost someone who has arguably contributed more to the world of computing than Jobs, Torvalds and Stallman combined. Thanks for the info. To many a coworkers dismay, I periodically revert to the KR style. It just seems more readable. C got me started in my career. The only language that you could grow by adding your own native code functionality! Without C we would not have C++, Java, JavaScript, and that Microsoft garbage J++, C#. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
On 14 October 2011 20:58, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: That forthcoming N 36mp body, full frame. Sony sensor. That's 5k x 7k pixels. 5K pixels over 24mm == roughly 200 pixels / mm. That begins to match the resolving power of 100 line pairs / mm. And with reduced CofC issues (points do not become blurs, consequently reducing the CofC) for enlargement, which is *really* where digital has its advantage, that's awesome. My money is already put aside. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Night Photography: free eBook
Thanks Dave On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Just a heads-up for anyone interested in trying night photography. Here's a free introductory 24 page eBook (PDF) on the subject ... http://availablelightimages.com/blog/night-photography/ The content looks pretty good. Author makes a couple of questionable assertions, but stuff like his suggestions about doing high-ISO quick grabs (eg 30 secs) to check the histogram prior to doing a 2 hour exposure seem spot on. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
And digital is perfect? Actually, in the real world, what rules is the media that the artist feels most comfortable working with. This may be digital, it may equally be oil paint or macrame. William Robb What 'digital' has done is put the entire range of the photographic process (capture through final image processing) within reach of the ordinary person. It's opened up the world of artistry to many more people who otherwise were/would have been constrained to mostly 'capture-time photography'. Many, if not most people interested in photography did not have the funds, space, or time to devote to a wet darkroom. The digital darkroom is easily obtainable and justifiable, taking up far less space and costing less money, and it doesn't have the continued consumable expense, aside from paper if/when printing. OK, occasional hardware/software upgrades. Before DSLR's, when I bought Photoshop 3.0 and a film scanner in the mid-90's, a whole new side of photography began to emerge. I wasn't just limited to the locked-in post-capture image on the slide or negative. The combination of digital capture and post-processing has improved my output considerably and I've gone from the belief that my 1st generation slide image was the ultimate, to believing that the ultimate image is achieved through post-capture fine-tuning and adjustment prior to displaying in whatever form. That, in retrospect, while a long journey, has been liberating. (I am woman hear me roar). I don't particularly like sitting in front of a computer adjusting images either (as opposed to being out seeing and capturing images). The learning curve with complex software tools can seem overwhelming at times, but I can imagine I far prefer it to standing in a darkroom for hours on end, messing with smelly chemicals, and suffering the aggravation of irrecoverably destroying a good potential image or having to redo processes over and over because I didn't get it quite right (all the while my eyeballs drying up and scaling over for lack of light). It's akin to the advantages of using a word processing program and spell checker as opposed to a typewriter ribbon, paper, and correcting fluid. I didn't know you like macrame... Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT printf(goodbye world\n);
The term Microsoft garbage is redundant. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
Rulers rule! Of course, it's BW film. Color world last time I looked. Digital brought that kind of control to color photography for the typical photographer and that is the biggest advance for me. On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: And digital is perfect? Actually, in the real world, what rules is the media that the artist feels most comfortable working with. This may be digital, it may equally be oil paint or macrame. William Robb What 'digital' has done is put the entire range of the photographic process (capture through final image processing) within reach of the ordinary person. It's opened up the world of artistry to many more people who otherwise were/would have been constrained to mostly 'capture-time photography'. Many, if not most people interested in photography did not have the funds, space, or time to devote to a wet darkroom. The digital darkroom is easily obtainable and justifiable, taking up far less space and costing less money, and it doesn't have the continued consumable expense, aside from paper if/when printing. OK, occasional hardware/software upgrades. Before DSLR's, when I bought Photoshop 3.0 and a film scanner in the mid-90's, a whole new side of photography began to emerge. I wasn't just limited to the locked-in post-capture image on the slide or negative. The combination of digital capture and post-processing has improved my output considerably and I've gone from the belief that my 1st generation slide image was the ultimate, to believing that the ultimate image is achieved through post-capture fine-tuning and adjustment prior to displaying in whatever form. That, in retrospect, while a long journey, has been liberating. (I am woman hear me roar). I don't particularly like sitting in front of a computer adjusting images either (as opposed to being out seeing and capturing images). The learning curve with complex software tools can seem overwhelming at times, but I can imagine I far prefer it to standing in a darkroom for hours on end, messing with smelly chemicals, and suffering the aggravation of irrecoverably destroying a good potential image or having to redo processes over and over because I didn't get it quite right (all the while my eyeballs drying up and scaling over for lack of light). It's akin to the advantages of using a word processing program and spell checker as opposed to a typewriter ribbon, paper, and correcting fluid. I didn't know you like macrame... Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Can anyone identify this critter?
I emailed a few scientists and one has replied that this is caterpillar of a moth of the family Limacodidae. Can't confirm that, but it's kind of hard to prove that it isn't. Wikipedia says: They are mostly tropical, but occur worldwide, with about 1000 described species and probably many more as yet undescribed species. Under Caterpillars it says: The larvae are typically very flattened, and instead of prolegs they have suckers[2]. The thoracic legs are reduced, but always present and they locomote by rolling waves rather than walking with individual prolegs. They even use a lubricant, a kind of liquified silk, to locomote on[3]. . . . . The larval head is concealed under folds. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Cradle Will Fall
Thank you very much, Tim! That background is one of the reasons I rarely shoot with anything other than my 50/1.4 these days. I'm utterly smitten by the bokeh it produces when I luck up and get it right. -- Walt On 10/14/2011 2:56 AM, Tim Bray wrote: I'm a couple weeks behind on PDML and I just looked at a few dozen PESOs and this was the first one that made me hit the reply key. Beautiful shot. Exquisite backgrounds, which matters. -T On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here's a shot I took today that's a little more of a general audiences type image. The leaves are just now starting to turn on a few trees in western Kentucky, and this particular leaf caught my eye. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193992814/ K100Ds, K 50/1.4, Manual, f/5.6(?), 1/100, ISO 200 Again, comments and critiques are welcome. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Can anyone identify this critter?
Thanks for the legwork! It was driving me batty! -- Walt On 10/14/2011 9:55 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I emailed a few scientists and one has replied that this is caterpillar of a moth of the family Limacodidae. Can't confirm that, but it's kind of hard to prove that it isn't. Wikipedia says: They are mostly tropical, but occur worldwide, with about 1000 described species and probably many more as yet undescribed species. Under Caterpillars it says: The larvae are typically very flattened, and instead of prolegs they have suckers[2]. The thoracic legs are reduced, but always present and they locomote by rolling waves rather than walking with individual prolegs. They even use a lubricant, a kind of liquified silk, to locomote on[3]. . . . . The larval head is concealed under folds. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
On 10/14/2011 3:07 AM, William Robb wrote: On 13/10/2011 7:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: BW film might still rule if film didn't curl, and if the enlarger and/or scanner were perfect. But in the real world, digital rules. And digital is perfect? Actually, in the real world, what rules is the media that the artist feels most comfortable working with. This may be digital, it may equally be oil paint or macrame. I like macaroni on cardboard myself. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
That kind of depends on the film. I believe that slide film has a narrower DR than even straight from camera Jpegs. But I don't have any hard numbers on that. On 10/14/2011 3:17 AM, David Savage wrote: In terms of DR film still rules over digital. On 14/10/2011, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Well, I enjoy both PS and chemicals. I might be tempted, though, by the new 36mp Nikon. That is 200 pixels per mm, roughly the resolution of a very good lens. But at this point bw film still rules. BW film might still rule if film didn't curl, and if the enlarger and/or scanner were perfect. But in the real world, digital rules. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT printf(goodbye world\n);
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:23:24PM +1300, David Mann wrote: On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Wednesday evening, on another mailing list I was pointed to a saddening post on Tim Bray's blog. Last week, Dennis Ritchie passed away. This news will almost certainly cause one of two reactions: Who? or Dismay that we have lost someone who has arguably contributed more to the world of computing than Jobs, Torvalds and Stallman combined. I'm in the second camp but I'm pleased that the mainstream news media has reported the news. I haven't used C for a long time. It's still my everyday language. Admittedly nowadays I tend to write something halfway between C and C++ (and even when I use just C it's not KR C). I actually exchanged a couple of emails with dmr just over ten years ago when he saw I posting I'd made in alk.folklore.computers about strategy for the game of Moo (similar to Mastermind); he pointed me to an article which made a brief mention of some investigation Ken Thompson had done. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT printf(goodbye world\n);
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 09:03:06AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: The term Microsoft garbage is redundant. Darren Addy Not in the terms of C/C++ programming it isn't. The Visual C products have long been serious contenders for the title of best C development and debugging environment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Can anyone identify this critter?
Thanks. That is the best answer I could find. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I emailed a few scientists and one has replied that this is caterpillar of a moth of the family Limacodidae. Can't confirm that, but it's kind of hard to prove that it isn't. Wikipedia says: They are mostly tropical, but occur worldwide, with about 1000 described species and probably many more as yet undescribed species. Under Caterpillars it says: The larvae are typically very flattened, and instead of prolegs they have suckers[2]. The thoracic legs are reduced, but always present and they locomote by rolling waves rather than walking with individual prolegs. They even use a lubricant, a kind of liquified silk, to locomote on[3]. . . . . The larval head is concealed under folds. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Bus Stop
BW no vehicle is the best, though the color version has it's charm. The version with the speeding car is also good, but now you don't have a clear subject, it could be either the figure at the bus stop or the car. On 10/12/2011 11:19 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: I am reviewing my Rome 2009 images, getting back into the Blurb book I have planned. I came across an image that intrigues me; I am curious what others will say WRT rendering and subject matter. So, two images taken within a second or two. Each rendered both in color and in BW. (And for those who may have seen these earlier on Posterous, I have deleted the original and put up a corrected version.) Which do you prefer? Other comments? http://smhalpin.posterous.com/bus-stop stan -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 DSLR of the decade?
On 14/10/2011 1:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I don't know the reviewer, but he seems quite happy with the K-5 as an all-around camera http://photographic-central.blogspot.com/2011/10/pentax-k5-dslr-review.html The decade is still young. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
On 14/10/2011 7:56 AM, Tom C wrote: And digital is perfect? Actually, in the real world, what rules is the media that the artist feels most comfortable working with. This may be digital, it may equally be oil paint or macrame. William Robb What 'digital' has done is put the entire range of the photographic process (capture through final image processing) within reach of the ordinary person. It's opened up the world of artistry to many more people who otherwise were/would have been constrained to mostly 'capture-time photography'. This is what was said about photography when the first Kodak hit the market in the late 1800s, except the comparison was being made to painting. Many, if not most people interested in photography did not have the funds, space, or time to devote to a wet darkroom. The digital darkroom is easily obtainable and justifiable, taking up far less space and costing less money, and it doesn't have the continued consumable expense, aside from paper if/when printing. OK, occasional hardware/software upgrades. Before DSLR's, when I bought Photoshop 3.0 and a film scanner in the mid-90's, a whole new side of photography began to emerge. I wasn't just limited to the locked-in post-capture image on the slide or negative. The combination of digital capture and post-processing has improved my output considerably and I've gone from the belief that my 1st generation slide image was the ultimate, to believing that the ultimate image is achieved through post-capture fine-tuning and adjustment prior to displaying in whatever form. That, in retrospect, while a long journey, has been liberating. (I am woman hear me roar). I don't particularly like sitting in front of a computer adjusting images either (as opposed to being out seeing and capturing images). The learning curve with complex software tools can seem overwhelming at times, but I can imagine I far prefer it to standing in a darkroom for hours on end, messing with smelly chemicals, and suffering the aggravation of irrecoverably destroying a good potential image or having to redo processes over and over because I didn't get it quite right (all the while my eyeballs drying up and scaling over for lack of light). It's akin to the advantages of using a word processing program and spell checker as opposed to a typewriter ribbon, paper, and correcting fluid. I got into photography in the first place because I like working in a darkroom. The camera wasn't the tool of choice for me, the enlarger was. Even the final image is of secondary importance to me. I like the process of making the image more than either capturing it on film or sensor, or even the final print itself, which is just proof that I've done something I enjoy doing. I suppose its surprising that I've been as successful a photographer as I have been, given that attitude. If all that matters to you is the final image, and you don't care about how you get there, I actually feel sorry for you. You use the typewriter vs. word processor analogy, but consider a different one for a moment. I could jump on an aeroplane tomorrow morning and be in Boise in the afternoon, and that would be that. I'd be in Boise. If that was all that was important, then fair enough. But I'd miss seeing the rivers, the wildlife and the mountains between here and there. I'd miss the trip in favour of the destination. I happen to prefer the trip, and am willing to take the extra time required to make it in comfort rather than just arriving, smelly and in a bad mood from being cooped up in a cattle car for 8 hours after being strip searched by a large ugly person with a bad attitude. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 DSLR of the decade?
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:39 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/10/2011 1:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I don't know the reviewer, but he seems quite happy with the K-5 as an all-around camera http://photographic-central.blogspot.com/2011/10/pentax-k5-dslr-review.html The decade is still young. But I'm not, go review,:-) Dave -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Night Photography: free eBook
On Oct 14, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Just a heads-up for anyone interested in trying night photography. Here's a free introductory 24 page eBook (PDF) on the subject ... http://availablelightimages.com/blog/night-photography/ The content looks pretty good. Author makes a couple of questionable assertions, but stuff like his suggestions about doing high-ISO quick grabs (eg 30 secs) to check the histogram prior to doing a 2 hour exposure seem spot on. Interesting timing on that post. I've had my O-GPS1 a week now and have had to contend with a moon, cloudy skies, or both every night since. I still haven't had a chance to play with the astrotracer. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
On 14/10/2011 10:47 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: That kind of depends on the film. I believe that slide film has a narrower DR than even straight from camera Jpegs. But I don't have any hard numbers on that. Last time I checked (which was something like 20 years ago), slide film was 5-6 stops, colour print film was close to 10 stops (Reala), there was Agfa Ultra that was more like slide film that way, so there was variance, BW film was similar to colour print film if you lab processed it, but it was possible to get 12-14 stops out of it. I think the K5 boasts a 14 stop DR at ISO 80, so it's going to be close to what film is able to do in a single exposure, and with HDR, that range can be opened up significantly, to over 20 stops if required. Consider though, that the vast majority of photographable scenes fall into a range of closer to 6-8 stops, and the need for really wide DR tends to be something more important to marketing people than photographers. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 DSLR of the decade?
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:39:41AM -0600, William Robb wrote: On 14/10/2011 1:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I don't know the reviewer, but he seems quite happy with the K-5 as an all-around camera http://photographic-central.blogspot.com/2011/10/pentax-k5-dslr-review.html The decade is still young. That rather depends on how you count - the K-5 was released in 2010. Was that the last year of one decade, or the first year of the next? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
If you're doing street photography at night, it's always a matter of blown highlights and no shadow detail. If the data is in the capture, either digital or film, then there's a way to get it into a print. If it's not, then you have to cheat. On 10/14/2011 2:09 PM, William Robb wrote: On 14/10/2011 10:47 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: That kind of depends on the film. I believe that slide film has a narrower DR than even straight from camera Jpegs. But I don't have any hard numbers on that. Last time I checked (which was something like 20 years ago), slide film was 5-6 stops, colour print film was close to 10 stops (Reala), there was Agfa Ultra that was more like slide film that way, so there was variance, BW film was similar to colour print film if you lab processed it, but it was possible to get 12-14 stops out of it. I think the K5 boasts a 14 stop DR at ISO 80, so it's going to be close to what film is able to do in a single exposure, and with HDR, that range can be opened up significantly, to over 20 stops if required. Consider though, that the vast majority of photographable scenes fall into a range of closer to 6-8 stops, and the need for really wide DR tends to be something more important to marketing people than photographers. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 DSLR of the decade?
The convention is to count years from 1, there is no year zero. So, it's was released last decade. On 10/14/2011 2:27 PM, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:39:41AM -0600, William Robb wrote: On 14/10/2011 1:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I don't know the reviewer, but he seems quite happy with the K-5 as an all-around camera http://photographic-central.blogspot.com/2011/10/pentax-k5-dslr-review.html The decade is still young. That rather depends on how you count - the K-5 was released in 2010. Was that the last year of one decade, or the first year of the next? -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
On 14/10/2011 12:31 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: If you're doing street photography at night, it's always a matter of blown highlights and no shadow detail. If the data is in the capture, either digital or film, then there's a way to get it into a print. If it's not, then you have to cheat. Note where I said vast majority. The scene type you are talking about is a vast minority, and is certainly better served by a high DR medium. However, since the DR of digital capture sinks like a stone as the iso is cranked up, and the photography you are discussing is generally done at higher iso, it's debatable as to whether digital would have an advantage over film in this instance. I would guess probably not. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 DSLR of the decade?
On 14/10/2011 12:27 PM, John Francis wrote: The decade is still young. That rather depends on how you count - the K-5 was released in 2010. Was that the last year of one decade, or the first year of the next? I would think most competent reviewers would put the Nikon D700 ahead of the K5, since in most every metric it squishes the Pentax. If he's talking about last decade, he isn't a good reviewer, if he's talking about this decade, his enthusiasm has gotten away from him. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 DSLR of the decade?
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:33 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The convention is to count years from 1, there is no year zero. So, it's was released last decade. That is the convention for centuries, but not typically for decades. We speak of the 1990s, not the 200th decade AD. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Can anyone identify this critter?
Just to follow up. The answer came from biologist Jan C. Meerman Belize Environmental Consultancies Ltd. Belmopan, Belize. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
And digital is perfect? Actually, in the real world, what rules is the media that the artist feels most comfortable working with. This may be digital, it may equally be oil paint or macrame. William Robb What 'digital' has done is put the entire range of the photographic process (capture through final image processing) within reach of the ordinary person. It's opened up the world of artistry to many more people who otherwise were/would have been constrained to mostly 'capture-time photography'. This is what was said about photography when the first Kodak hit the market in the late 1800s, except the comparison was being made to painting. And it was true then as it is now. Many, if not most people interested in photography did not have the funds, space, or time to devote to a wet darkroom. The digital darkroom is easily obtainable and justifiable, taking up far less space and costing less money, and it doesn't have the continued consumable expense, aside from paper if/when printing. OK, occasional hardware/software upgrades. Before DSLR's, when I bought Photoshop 3.0 and a film scanner in the mid-90's, a whole new side of photography began to emerge. I wasn't just limited to the locked-in post-capture image on the slide or negative. The combination of digital capture and post-processing has improved my output considerably and I've gone from the belief that my 1st generation slide image was the ultimate, to believing that the ultimate image is achieved through post-capture fine-tuning and adjustment prior to displaying in whatever form. That, in retrospect, while a long journey, has been liberating. (I am woman hear me roar). I don't particularly like sitting in front of a computer adjusting images either (as opposed to being out seeing and capturing images). The learning curve with complex software tools can seem overwhelming at times, but I can imagine I far prefer it to standing in a darkroom for hours on end, messing with smelly chemicals, and suffering the aggravation of irrecoverably destroying a good potential image or having to redo processes over and over because I didn't get it quite right (all the while my eyeballs drying up and scaling over for lack of light). It's akin to the advantages of using a word processing program and spell checker as opposed to a typewriter ribbon, paper, and correcting fluid. I got into photography in the first place because I like working in a darkroom. The camera wasn't the tool of choice for me, the enlarger was. Even the final image is of secondary importance to me. I like the process of making the image more than either capturing it on film or sensor, or even the final print itself, which is just proof that I've done something I enjoy doing. I suppose its surprising that I've been as successful a photographer as I have been, given that attitude. If all that matters to you is the final image, and you don't care about how you get there, I actually feel sorry for you. You use the typewriter vs. word processor analogy, but consider a different one for a moment. I could jump on an aeroplane tomorrow morning and be in Boise in the afternoon, and that would be that. I'd be in Boise. If that was all that was important, then fair enough. But I'd miss seeing the rivers, the wildlife and the mountains between here and there. I'd miss the trip in favour of the destination. I happen to prefer the trip, and am willing to take the extra time required to make it in comfort rather than just arriving, smelly and in a bad mood from being cooped up in a cattle car for 8 hours after being strip searched by a large ugly person with a bad attitude. William Robb Where's Boise? What time will you be here? Should I put dinner on? I'd say the final image matters most. By way of your travel analogy, if you have a fun trip yet you end up some place you'd rather not be, then you have the good memories of the trip but you're stuck with the here and now. Or maybe it was a fun trip, but just took too long, so now there's not enough time at your destination. You needn't feel sorry for me because I didn't say I didn't care about how you get there. And you know as well as I do that your argument is a straw man, because you know I like road trips and you know I care about the process of creating an end image... but hey, I don't mind punching one around. :-) I don't think there's a right vs. wrong, or good vs. bad when it comes to analog vs. digital. They are parallel methods of achieving a similar end and one's free to pursue the options. But I must ask, despite your over emotional reaction, why do you have, how many DSLR's is it? When's the last time you've spent a substantial amount of time in a wet darkroom vs. frying your eyeballs out looking at the computer monitor? I assume you purchased metal screws, nails, and power tools when remodeling your house as opposed to hand saws, and chisels to fabricate your own
Re: Do You Remember When?
On 14/10/2011 1:00 PM, Tom C wrote: A But I must ask, despite your over emotional reaction, why do you have, how many DSLR's is it? When's the last time you've spent a substantial amount of time in a wet darkroom vs. frying your eyeballs out looking at the computer monitor? Too many DSLRs. I think Freud called it sublimation. And yes, it's been something like 9 years since I last worked in a darkroom. But I finally have some hope. I've mapped out a bit of space in the basement, and have the planning department's approval, so I might actually get back into the darkroom this winter, though before I go forward, I will have to see if materials are still available. I assume you purchased metal screws, nails, and power tools when remodeling your house as opposed to hand saws, and chisels to fabricate your own fasteners. Of course, it's just an assumption. Were I interested in being either a lumberjack or a smithy, I would probably have gone that route, but I don't see how one equates with the other. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Golden
Nice shot... Good angle! Where's it from? -T On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:28 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I took a photography class recently. It included two field trips to San Francisco. I shot tons of photos. Which I why I took it, to get myself taking pictures again. This was late in the day, actually early in the evening. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/golden.htm Comments welcome. Marnie ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Diaphanous
Very nice, you can almost feel the texture -T On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've been going through some of the shots I've taken over the past couple of months and stumbled upon some that I had set aside for another day and let them slip my mind. I took this one way back on August 14, using my K-x with the K 50/1.4. It was just as the sun was going down. I don't recall what my aperture setting was, but I'm guessing it was most likely right at f/2. In any event, I was pretty pleased when I stumbled upon it and can't for the life of me figure out why I hadn't done anything with it before. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6235356338/ K-x, f/2(?), ISO 560, 1/750 Comments, critiques and suggestions appreciated. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fall Grass and Sky
My eyes like it, but I'm not sure exactly why. Thanks -T On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Do not expect much! http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14378496size=lg Old stock film (Fuji NPS PRO Color Negative, best before date: 2004). Kiev 60 camera with a recently serviced Vega 120mm lens. On tripod with MLU. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - two Still Lifes - GDG
Wouldn't mind seeing color versions of those -T On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: Did a couple of Still Life images this morning using Paul's lovely old Leitz Elmar 5.0cm f/3.5 lens, an uncoated lens from 1932-1934 era … http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6239756889/in/photostream/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6239756889/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6239756835/in/photostream/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6239756835/in/photostream/ Enjoy! Thanks for looking, comments always appreciated! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Memorial Park REDUX
Ah... very atmospheric, made me smile. Could do with a little leveling? -T On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: This is a redo of a picture I posted in late Sept. Stan and several other posters kindly (and strongly suggested) I missed the angle on the subject. I replaced the one there with new one I took last week. One is highly post processed and the other is not for those who prefer the basics. No matter what you think about the photos, I took what was great advice and I am much happier with the result. http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/ The second set down below the golden trees. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Night Photography: free eBook
From: David J Brooks Thanks Dave On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Just a heads-up for anyone interested in trying night photography. Here's a free introductory 24 page eBook (PDF) on the subject ... http://availablelightimages.com/blog/night-photography/ The content looks pretty good. Author makes a couple of questionable assertions, but stuff like his suggestions about doing high-ISO quick grabs (eg 30 secs) to check the histogram prior to doing a 2 hour exposure seem spot on. It occurs to me that this will be a lot more difficult with K20D because you can't turn off the long exposure noise reduction. How are you going to get contiguous star trails? Or has anyone come up with a hack that will allow the K20D's long exposure noise reduction to be turned off? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Diaphanous
On 10/14/2011 3:20 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Very nice, you can almost feel the texture -T Thanks again, Tim! :-) -- Walt On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've been going through some of the shots I've taken over the past couple of months and stumbled upon some that I had set aside for another day and let them slip my mind. I took this one way back on August 14, using my K-x with the K 50/1.4. It was just as the sun was going down. I don't recall what my aperture setting was, but I'm guessing it was most likely right at f/2. In any event, I was pretty pleased when I stumbled upon it and can't for the life of me figure out why I hadn't done anything with it before. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6235356338/ K-x, f/2(?), ISO 560, 1/750 Comments, critiques and suggestions appreciated. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Night Photography: free eBook
On 11-10-14 4:33 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: David J Brooks Thanks Dave On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Just a heads-up for anyone interested in trying night photography. Here's a free introductory 24 page eBook (PDF) on the subject ... http://availablelightimages.com/blog/night-photography/ The content looks pretty good. Author makes a couple of questionable assertions, but stuff like his suggestions about doing high-ISO quick grabs (eg 30 secs) to check the histogram prior to doing a 2 hour exposure seem spot on. It occurs to me that this will be a lot more difficult with K20D because you can't turn off the long exposure noise reduction. How are you going to get contiguous star trails? Or has anyone come up with a hack that will allow the K20D's long exposure noise reduction to be turned off? Don't you just wait for twice the exposure time for the final result? I haven't tried star trails. My longest K20D exposure has been something like 5 minutes. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
G+
I work for Google, so feel free to discount this as highly-biased raving. Having said that, Google+ is really pretty nice for a photographer: 1. The presentation of the photos is pretty good compared to anything else with social in the name 2. There are a lot of really good photographers already there, so you can arrange to have your stream filled with great shots every time you check in. 3. There's this hangout thing, essentially a glorified videoconference, up to 10 ways, and you can screen-share. Got into one of those led by Mike Spinak (author of the amusing 10,775-word rant against the Golden ratio at http://naturography.com/the-golden-section-hypothesis-a-critical-look/) and in that hangout, people were screen-sharing so we could all look at pix together and argue about composition and lighting and so on 4. The interface for uploading your pictures seems to pretty well just work Check some of the links here out: http://goo.gl/7mSu5 Here are my albums: https://plus.google.com/photos/107606703558161507946/albums People here might be amused by the ones prefixed by Backgrounds: This is a total of a couple hundred pix designed for use as wallpapers on your mobile device. For pix I care about seriously, I still use my own blog space. But G+ sure makes it awfully easy. Biased raving over. Return to your regularly-scheduled cormorants. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Night Photography: free eBook
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It occurs to me that this will be a lot more difficult with K20D because you can't turn off the long exposure noise reduction. How are you going to get contiguous star trails? Or has anyone come up with a hack that will allow the K20D's long exposure noise reduction to be turned off? Don't you just wait for twice the exposure time for the final result? I haven't tried star trails. My longest K20D exposure has been something like 5 minutes. Star trails from DSLRs are usually assembled from multiple exposures (otherwise you build up too much background from dark current and sky brightness). So if the noise reduction makes you do 5 minutes on the sky, then 5 minutes dark, then 5 sky, 5 dark, etc., you'll have interruptions in your star trails, and the combined result will look like dashed lines. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Night Photography: free eBook
On 11-10-14 5:04 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It occurs to me that this will be a lot more difficult with K20D because you can't turn off the long exposure noise reduction. How are you going to get contiguous star trails? Or has anyone come up with a hack that will allow the K20D's long exposure noise reduction to be turned off? Don't you just wait for twice the exposure time for the final result? I haven't tried star trails. My longest K20D exposure has been something like 5 minutes. Star trails from DSLRs are usually assembled from multiple exposures (otherwise you build up too much background from dark current and sky brightness). So if the noise reduction makes you do 5 minutes on the sky, then 5 minutes dark, then 5 sky, 5 dark, etc., you'll have interruptions in your star trails, and the combined result will look like dashed lines. Ahhh! Well that explains the dashed lines in a couple of the example photos in that eBook! :-) Have to run two parallel K20's then. Yech. Thanks, Matthew. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com On 14/10/2011 1:00 PM, Tom C wrote: But I must ask, despite your over emotional reaction, why do you have, how many DSLR's is it? When's the last time you've spent a substantial amount of time in a wet darkroom vs. frying your eyeballs out looking at the computer monitor? Too many DSLRs. I think Freud called it sublimation. Freud was an idiot. And yes, it's been something like 9 years since I last worked in a darkroom. But I finally have some hope. I've mapped out a bit of space in the basement, and have the planning department's approval, so I might actually get back into the darkroom this winter, though before I go forward, I will have to see if materials are still available. I hope they are and I hope you enjoy it. I assume you purchased metal screws, nails, and power tools when remodeling your house as opposed to hand saws, and chisels to fabricate your own fasteners. Of course, it's just an assumption. Were I interested in being either a lumberjack or a smithy, I would probably have gone that route, but I don't see how one equates with the other. -- William Robb I was just trying get a rise out of you. You're just like my wife... you react when I least expect it and ignore me when I expect attention. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso - Speaking of Cormorants ..
(aside to Tim Bray and his gushing over G+) Working on new calendar - calling it 'Feathers finally found a cormy snap of mine from earlier this year... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/New-2012-calendars/Feathers/19261415_nN7VmR/1/1528728093_VpgwnMK/Medium sorry not to be more gabby these days -- but I will be (and you'll be sorry!) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Night Photography: free eBook
On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It occurs to me that this will be a lot more difficult with K20D because you can't turn off the long exposure noise reduction. How are you going to get contiguous star trails? Or has anyone come up with a hack that will allow the K20D's long exposure noise reduction to be turned off? Don't you just wait for twice the exposure time for the final result? I haven't tried star trails. My longest K20D exposure has been something like 5 minutes. Star trails from DSLRs are usually assembled from multiple exposures (otherwise you build up too much background from dark current and sky brightness). So if the noise reduction makes you do 5 minutes on the sky, then 5 minutes dark, then 5 sky, 5 dark, etc., you'll have interruptions in your star trails, and the combined result will look like dashed lines. You could always adjust the times of the exposures so that the star trails spell things out in morse code. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2011 - Jurby Road - GDG
on 2011-10-13 12:58 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6240687863/lightbox/ Or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6240687863/ simple moody, but with a kind of formal structure -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Do You Remember When?
On 14/10/2011 4:31 PM, Tom C wrote: I was just trying get a rise out of you. You're just like my wife... you react when I least expect it and ignore me when I expect attention. :-) Naw, your wife is way nicer. You do realize that you are really obvious when you are trying to get a rise out of someone, don't you? -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: scanners; Epson 600 vs. Epson 700 vs. used film scanner
I don't scan film often, but I have hundreds of thousands of frames I've never printed, and I occasionally need to scan something. (I still have a darkroom, but have little time for that and definitely don't want to fool around with color printing.). Some reviews say the Epson 700 flatbed is at least as good as older Nikon film scanners. Others say the Epson 600, at less than half the price of the 700, is almost its equal. I'm leaning toward the 700. What say you? Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Football Sunday!
on 2011-10-02 11:06 Christine Aguila wrote Just a little photo-play. Definitely, a Bears-sweatshirt-day--nippy. Tough season to be a Bears fan this year. Cheers, Christine great environmental portrait provoked thoughts: * don't misplace that remote control! * can only read a couple titles, lorca, letter to an imaginary friend; did i see escher? daley mayor? (i would like to read more) * things i am giving up (football has become inessential in Denver, the Broncos are now more soap opera than athletic; i also need to let go of a thousand books or so) * me in fifteen years -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: scanners; Epson 600 vs. Epson 700 vs. used film scanner
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 08:49:22PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: I don't scan film often, but I have hundreds of thousands of frames I've never printed, and I occasionally need to scan something. (I still have a darkroom, but have little time for that and definitely don't want to fool around with color printing.). Some reviews say the Epson 700 flatbed is at least as good as older Nikon film scanners. Others say the Epson 600, at less than half the price of the 700, is almost its equal. I'm leaning toward the 700. What say you? It depends on how much (and what) you intend to scan, but personally I'd have to think long and hard before paying three times the price for the 700. The most significant difference I see in the specs is DMax; the 700 claims 4.0, while the 600 only says 3.4. If you're scanning a lot of Velvia (and if those claimed figures are accurate) you might occasionally want the extra range. As a counterpoint, though - the 700 uses a fluorescent light source; the 600 uses LED. That would suggest that the 600 will yield more consistent results. Oh, and one more thing (which would be a deciding factor for me :-); The 700 doesn't claim to be supported under Windows 7. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: scanners; Epson 600 vs. Epson 700 vs. used film scanner
Get a used film scanner. No contest. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: scanners; Epson 600 vs. Epson 700 vs. used film scanner
On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Get a used film scanner. No contest. I have a lot of medium format film to scan as well and even some 4x5, so a film scanner is pretty much out of the question. In any case, the Epson 700 with a d-max of 4.0 and 4800 dpi native resolution appears to be very close in performance to some film scanners. That being said, I haven't seen any real definitive side-by-side tests. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Bus Stop
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I am reviewing my Rome 2009 images, getting back into the Blurb book I have planned. I came across an image that intrigues me; I am curious what others will say WRT rendering and subject matter. So, two images taken within a second or two. Each rendered both in color and in BW. (And for those who may have seen these earlier on Posterous, I have deleted the original and put up a corrected version.) Which do you prefer? Other comments? http://smhalpin.posterous.com/bus-stop First one. BW with the speeding car. Something mysterious about it that the others don't capture. Terrific shot!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Wata of Boris
Boris is a Japanese experimental-guitar-noise band that I really like; I saw them Tuesday and took some pix of guitarist/singer/keyboardist, Wata. If you're interested in reading about seriously challenging but deeply beautiful fringe music, there's http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/10/13/Pictures-of-Wata But if you just want to look at some dramatic low-light rockroll shots of a glamorous girl guitarist without all the critical armwaving, those would be: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/10/13/-big/RUNE3153.jpg.html http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/10/13/-big/RUNE3128.jpg.html http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/10/13/-big/RUNE3103.jpg.html http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/10/13/-big/RUNE3097.jpg.html K-5, ISO 6400, Sigma 30mm F1.4, the hardware performed pretty well in a challenging situation I think. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Sunday Papers
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:38 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: After heading down to the Lake on Sunday morning, it was off to a favourite coffee shop before I did a bit of city shooting: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/10/sunday-papers.html She heard me shoot, and by the third frame of my bracketing she looked at me. She asked if I took a photo of her and I said, Yes, I confess I did. I'll show it to you and I'll delete it right now if you want me to. She did like it and gave me permission to use it, which I am now. ;-) Good one. I like the tonal range and the composition. The way the woman is looking at the camera adds that extra bit of interest. (I hope your Sunday papers are better than ours) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Hope you like. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
