Re: PDML Digest, Vol 77, Issue 131

2012-09-15 Thread Tom C
> From: Paul Stenquist 
>
> On Sep 15, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Tom C  wrote:
>
>>> On 14/09/2012 6:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
>>> defections over the holiday buying season, although it
>>> might  cost Pentax  some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon 
>>> certainly wouldn't interest me if it couldn't equal the low-
>>> light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II matches the noise performance 
>>> of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will get some
>>> excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some preliminary 
>>> whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have
>>> fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect 
>>> that much of the rest of the world doesn't care.
>>
>> Paul, with all due respect this is basically what you've said for the
>> past 9 or 10 years.
>
> And for nine or ten years I've been right.

Right about what? Throughout the history of photography the larger a
medium one could record on, given that the density of the medium
stayed constant, the larger medium wins in terms of resolution over
smaller mediums. You know that. I know that. The world knows that.

>
>> If Pentax doesn't have it, why would one need it?
>> When Pentax does finally come out with it, you're among the first to
>> jump on the bandwagon and sing its praises.
>
> I've been an early adapter on APS-C cameras and lenses. Don't think I'll go 
> for full frame right away. It will depend a lot on the lens > lineup and 
> compatibility with the DA* 60-250, my workhorse.
>

Full frame & larger is already the professional standard in other
brands. Not that you can't get great images with smaller formats, we
all know one can. I just bought a NEX-7 APS-C camera because it suits
my needs for portability when I want to travel light. However, it's
got 1 1/2 times the resolution of the K-5.  I'm not downing the K-5,
I'm just stating the obvious. Pentax is for the most part a straggler,
we all know that.

>>
>> I remember you asking why anyone would need more than a 6MP DSLR when
>> I was complaining about the fact that's all Pentax was churning out.
>
> I don't recall saying that, but there's much I don't recall. Apparently, you 
> pay more attention to what I've said than i do!  IN any
> case, Pentax wasn't stuck at 6 for very long.
>

>From 2003 - 06, it was only 6MP, while Canon had an 8 MP consumer
model in 2005, not to mention an 11.4MP FF body in 2002 and a 16.7MP
FF body in 2004 (both the full frames were outside of affordable for
most people). Nikon ahead as well.

That's water under the bridge. In some respects I'm not disappointed
that I've waited this long to make the jump. I'm definitely not sorry
I skipped the K10D, and got the K20D. I do wish I'd have skipped the
K-7, and waited for the K-5.

The D800E is a giant leap forward at a somewhat affordable price.
$3300 for a 33MP body as compared to it's predecessor, $8000 for a
24MP D3X.

>>
>> The fact that they don't have a FF DSLR yet has led to my defection,
>> and I've been shooting for years. The D800E is expensive but doable at
>> less than half the cost of their prior FF DSLR in the category.
>> There's a huge selection of lenses, and I'll have double the base
>> resolution of anything Pentax has to offer. In addition, the D800/E
>> does appear to have excellent low-light capability (I realize you're
>> probably referring to the D600), and it'll have the superior AF.
>
> You've bought a D800E? Or you're just thinking about it. I thought about it 
> when I had problems with Pentax repair, but they made
> it right and sent me a new camera. I just don't want to see APS-C development 
> abandoned in favor of a format that has little lens
> support.

It's on order and as soon as it ships, I'll have it. I realize that
Pentax doesn't have the resources of Nikon or Canon, but that's to my
point. Both Canon and Nikon have had APS-C and FF lines out for many
years. It's like Pentax more or less didn't see that advancing sensor
technology and lower cost was going to make FF bodies basically within
the grasp of many people, or maybe they did and just couldn't compete.
They made the 645D however, that still sells for almost $9000 vs.
$3300 for a D800E (40MP vs. 33MP). A lot more AF lenses for the D800
as well.

>>
>> Actually the REST of the world does care. Evidence is the fact that
>> the two largest DSLR manufacturers have multiple FF bodies and have
>> had for years.
>
> But Pentax isn't ready to compete on their level. If they can muscle up both 
> a camera and lens lineup in full frame, more power to > them. But I still 
> don't see it.

I believe they'll have to have a FF body within 12 months if they want
to appear somewhat competitive.

I've stuck it out with Pentax quite a while. To borrow on the car
analogy, if I want a kind of vehicle that X mfr is not producing, and
Y mfr produces one at an affordable price, the logic of buying fro

Re: PESO -- Invisible

2012-09-15 Thread Tim Bray
Now that is cool. -T

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:00 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> As Frank is wont to quote from HBC  Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20invisible.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0
>
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RE: PESO - Music Stand

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Love the one with the leaves on the ground. Very autumnal (even though it's 
still officially summer...).

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: jn289 
Sent: September 15, 2012 9/15/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Music Stand

I went into a thrift store today to take a look and I found this 
music stand for $4.00. I thought in the store that this would be 
great for a small light stand for a flash, but not for a  big White 
Lighting. This would be used for a wall light or something on that 
order, or even a hair light. This is the third or fourth one that I 
have now. Another thing I liked about it, it is black. anyway here is 
two photos of it.
It stands up around five feet..So Larry and whoever else, get your 
brains working as to how you will use it to hold a flash to light 
whatever. When you get one to play with, get rid of the part for 
holding the sheet music.. Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16462360

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16462357



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Re: PESO - Your Father's Oldsmobile

2012-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some nice shapes happening there. One of my favorite American cars from the 
fifties.
Paul
On Sep 15, 2012, at 11:11 PM, "P. J. Alling"  wrote:

> I don't think my father would have been caught dead in a Pink Olds...
> 
> On 9/15/2012 9:58 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>> The local merchants had a sidewalk sale and as part of that, a custom
>> car show.  Noticed this '56 Olds:
>> 
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/your-fathers-oldsmobile.html
>> 
>> 
>> Tomorrow the engine...
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
>> 
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Re: PESO - Music Stand

2012-09-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
Best image of a music stand I've seen today!

-Original Message-
>From: jn289 
>Subject: PESO - Music Stand
>
>I went into a thrift store today to take a look and I found this 
>music stand for $4.00. I thought in the store that this would be 
>great for a small light stand for a flash, but not for a  big White 
>Lighting. This would be used for a wall light or something on that 
>order, or even a hair light. This is the third or fourth one that I 
>have now. Another thing I liked about it, it is black. anyway here is 
>two photos of it.
>It stands up around five feet..So Larry and whoever else, get your 
>brains working as to how you will use it to hold a flash to light 
>whatever. When you get one to play with, get rid of the part for 
>holding the sheet music.. Joe
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16462360
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16462357



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Re: PESO -- Invisible

2012-09-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
Subject matter trumps focus on this one!


-Original Message-
>From: "P. J. Alling" 
>Subject: PESO -- Invisible
>
>As Frank is wont to quote from HBC  Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.
>
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20invisible.html
>
>Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0
>
>As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>
>-- 
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>lengthly 


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Re: OT GESO - Another sunny Saturday afternoon

2012-09-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Derby!  Cheers, Christine 



On Sep 15, 2012, at 10:55 AM, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

> On 15/9/12, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> 
>> Here's what happened before and after my last post.
>> 
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_sunnysaturday/index.htm
> 
> Love it!
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>  Cotty
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Re: PESO - Your Father's Oldsmobile

2012-09-15 Thread P. J. Alling

I don't think my father would have been caught dead in a Pink Olds...

On 9/15/2012 9:58 PM, frank theriault wrote:

The local merchants had a sidewalk sale and as part of that, a custom
car show.  Noticed this '56 Olds:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/your-fathers-oldsmobile.html


Tomorrow the engine...

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO -- Invisible

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Soo you were in NY and didn't call?

I actually took a very similar shot a couple of months ago at Astor 
Place... but mainly because the two young women looked like identical 
barbie dolls...


ann

On 9/15/2012 23:00, P. J. Alling wrote:

As Frank is wont to quote from HBC  Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20invisible.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

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Re: PESO -- Invisible

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
PJ,
Nice catch.  Are you channeling Derby now?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> As Frank is wont to quote from HBC  Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20invisible.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0
>
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>
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PESO - Music Stand

2012-09-15 Thread jn289
I went into a thrift store today to take a look and I found this 
music stand for $4.00. I thought in the store that this would be 
great for a small light stand for a flash, but not for a  big White 
Lighting. This would be used for a wall light or something on that 
order, or even a hair light. This is the third or fourth one that I 
have now. Another thing I liked about it, it is black. anyway here is 
two photos of it.
It stands up around five feet..So Larry and whoever else, get your 
brains working as to how you will use it to hold a flash to light 
whatever. When you get one to play with, get rid of the part for 
holding the sheet music.. Joe


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16462360

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16462357



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Re: PESO - Your Father's Oldsmobile

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Enjoyed :-)

ann

On 9/15/2012 21:58, frank theriault wrote:

The local merchants had a sidewalk sale and as part of that, a custom
car show.  Noticed this '56 Olds:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/your-fathers-oldsmobile.html


Tomorrow the engine...

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Pastoral Scene

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark,
Although I love the blue color cast,
The second, flatter one, is actually better to me.
Something about the clouds and sky being more powerful.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> On 9/15/2012 4:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>> From: Mark C
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/15/pastoral-scene
>>>
>>> Pentax Q / Standard Zoom
>>>
>>> Comments welcomed.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
>>
>> Looks like it's got a magenta overcast.
>>
> Thanks. Here is an earlier version where I left the colors a little flatter
> -
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/photoblog2009/IMGP4346_7_8_tm_tu1_L.jpg
>
> I should comment that these are both 3 exposure HDR shots, merged in
> Photomatix, with the normal exposure non-HDR overlayed to soften the HDR
> effect somewhat.
>
> Mark
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RE: PESO -- Invisible

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Love it!!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: "P. J. Alling" 
Sent: September 15, 2012 9/15/12
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Subject: PESO -- Invisible

As Frank is wont to quote from HBC  Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20invisible.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

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PESO -- Invisible

2012-09-15 Thread P. J. Alling

As Frank is wont to quote from HBC  Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20invisible.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

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Re: PESO - Pastoral Scene

2012-09-15 Thread John Sessoms

Those colors look a lot more neutral.

From: Mark C


On 9/15/2012 4:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Mark C


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/15/pastoral-scene


Pentax Q / Standard Zoom

Comments welcomed.

Mark


Looks like it's got a magenta overcast.


Thanks. Here is an earlier version where I left the colors a little
flatter  -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/photoblog2009/IMGP4346_7_8_tm_tu1_L.jpg

I should comment that these are both 3 exposure HDR shots, merged in
Photomatix, with the normal exposure non-HDR overlayed to soften the HDR
effect somewhat.

Mark



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RE: OT GESO - Another sunny Saturday afternoon

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Like the bike and the street portrait (last one) but this one is brilliant:

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_sunnysaturday/07.htm

Usual amazing gallery!

cheers,
frank 

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--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang 
Sent: September 15, 2012 9/15/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: OT GESO - Another sunny Saturday afternoon


Here's what happened before and after my last post.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_sunnysaturday/index.htm


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RE: PESO: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Ha!

Terrific shot with great humour.

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

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Sent: September 15, 2012 9/15/12
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Subject: PESO: A day at the aquarium

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/

A shot I took in an aquarium in Bermuda.

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RE: PESO - Just Hangin' Around

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Sweet!

cheers,
frank

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From: Paul Stenquist 
Sent: September 15, 2012 9/15/12
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Subject: PESO - Just Hangin' Around

A bit of fun this afternoon.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16462172

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RE: PESO - Pastoral Scene

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I think I like the second (less saturated) version better. No matter which, 
it's a great slice of America.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Mark C 
Sent: September 15, 2012 9/15/12
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Subject: PESO - Pastoral Scene

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/15/pastoral-scene

Pentax Q / Standard Zoom

Comments welcomed.

Mark

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 September 2012 11:44, Darren Addy  wrote:

> Now I don't hang out in the automotive forums, and maybe there were
> some people who (before Honda introduced their Ridgeline pickup) got
> totally ticked off at Honda for not bringing out a pickup when they
> wanted to buy one. And they whined and complained and stamped their
> feet about how they were gonna buy Toyota or Ford from now on and how
> Honda, as a company, really sucked for not bringing out a pickup.\

This is precisely where the analogy falls dead flat in my opinion,
removable lens cameras are a system built around compatible cameras
and bodies, I think brand is moot but for a few loyalists.

I personally couldn't give a hoot who makes the body that's compatible
with my lenses, I lost my loyalty to Pentax some time ago. If the
D800E was Pentax mount compatible I would have one now. I have a big
kit of old and new lenses (mainly 3rd party now) of which many are
24x36mm frame capable and I would like a body to suit.

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PESO - Your Father's Oldsmobile

2012-09-15 Thread frank theriault
The local merchants had a sidewalk sale and as part of that, a custom
car show.  Noticed this '56 Olds:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/your-fathers-oldsmobile.html


Tomorrow the engine...

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-15 Thread Darren Addy
I think the automotive manufacturer analogy is probably the most
appropriate. Some manufacturers like to be in *every* market, from the
inexpensive subcompact up to the full-size pickup. But a lot of auto
manufacturers make a good living by excluding some markets. If you
want a pickup, you have to get one from a manufacturer who makes one.
Some companies stick with a core competency until they build a
sufficient reputation (and sales) which allows for expansion into
other markets. Some continue to restrict themselves to only certain
markets.

Some of us might remember many years ago when Honda made some serious
rust buckets. They were popular cars: Got good gas mileage and good
reliability, but had some body integrity issues which they eventually
addressed and soon they hit a couple of models out of the park with
new designs and developed a reputation for quality. Of course, they
still didn't make pickups. Until one day, they did.

Now I don't hang out in the automotive forums, and maybe there were
some people who (before Honda introduced their Ridgeline pickup) got
totally ticked off at Honda for not bringing out a pickup when they
wanted to buy one. And they whined and complained and stamped their
feet about how they were gonna buy Toyota or Ford from now on and how
Honda, as a company, really sucked for not bringing out a pickup. Now
in my opinion, those people can spend their money on whatever they
want, but if they after switching brands hey decided to hang out in a
Honda enthusiast's forum and continue to whine about Honda, I would
really start to wonder about them.

If someone has decided to abandon Pentax for another brand, for
whatever reason, bully for them! But seriously, why would they be
hanging out in a PENTAX DISCUSS Mail List after making that decision,
unless (perhaps) they have an abusive personality and enjoy poking
people with virtual sticks? I speak only for myself here, but if I
find someone urinating in my Cheerios, I consider it to be bad form.

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 15, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Tom C  wrote:

>> On 14/09/2012 6:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
>> defections over the holiday buying season, although it
>> might  cost Pentax  some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon 
>> certainly wouldn't interest me if it couldn't equal the low-
>> light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II matches the noise performance of 
>> the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will get some
>> excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some preliminary 
>> whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have
>> fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect 
>> that much of the rest of the world doesn't care.
> 
> Paul, with all due respect this is basically what you've said for the
> past 9 or 10 years.

And for nine or ten years I've been right.

> If Pentax doesn't have it, why would one need it?
> When Pentax does finally come out with it, you're among the first to
> jump on the bandwagon and sing its praises.

I've been an early adapter on APS-C cameras and lenses. Don't think I'll go for 
full frame right away. It will depend a lot on the lens lineup and 
compatibility with the DA* 60-250, my workhorse.

> 
> I remember you asking why anyone would need more than a 6MP DSLR when
> I was complaining about the fact that's all Pentax was churning out.

I don't recall saying that, but there's much I don't recall. Apparently, you 
pay more attention to what I've said than i do!  IN any case, Pentax wasn't 
stuck at 6 for very long.

> 
> The fact that they don't have a FF DSLR yet has led to my defection,
> and I've been shooting for years. The D800E is expensive but doable at
> less than half the cost of their prior FF DSLR in the category.
> There's a huge selection of lenses, and I'll have double the base
> resolution of anything Pentax has to offer. In addition, the D800/E
> does appear to have excellent low-light capability (I realize you're
> probably referring to the D600), and it'll have the superior AF.

You've bought a D800E? Or you're just thinking about it. I thought about it 
when I had problems with Pentax repair, but they made it right and sent me a 
new camera. I just don't want to see APS-C development abandoned in favor of a 
format that has little lens support.
> 
> Actually the REST of the world does care. Evidence is the fact that
> the two largest DSLR manufacturers have multiple FF bodies and have
> had for years.

But Pentax isn't ready to compete on their level. If they can muscle up both a 
camera and lens lineup in full frame, more power to them. But I still don't see 
it.

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-15 Thread Tom C
> On 14/09/2012 6:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
> defections over the holiday buying season, although it
> might  cost Pentax  some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly 
> wouldn't interest me if it couldn't equal the low-
> light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II matches the noise performance of 
> the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will get some
> excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some preliminary 
> whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have
> fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect that 
> much of the rest of the world doesn't care.

Paul, with all due respect this is basically what you've said for the
past 9 or 10 years. If Pentax doesn't have it, why would one need it?
When Pentax does finally come out with it, you're among the first to
jump on the bandwagon and sing its praises.

I remember you asking why anyone would need more than a 6MP DSLR when
I was complaining about the fact that's all Pentax was churning out.

The fact that they don't have a FF DSLR yet has led to my defection,
and I've been shooting for years. The D800E is expensive but doable at
less than half the cost of their prior FF DSLR in the category.
There's a huge selection of lenses, and I'll have double the base
resolution of anything Pentax has to offer. In addition, the D800/E
does appear to have excellent low-light capability (I realize you're
probably referring to the D600), and it'll have the superior AF.

Actually the REST of the world does care. Evidence is the fact that
the two largest DSLR manufacturers have multiple FF bodies and have
had for years.

Tom C.

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Re: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread David Parsons
Heh.  There were a couple sharks, but they were in a different tank.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM,   wrote:
> Love it! I guess a shark had gotten the rest of him!
>
> Kenneth Waller
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> - Original Message - From: "David Parsons" 
> Subject: PESO: A day at the aquarium
>
>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/
>>
>> A shot I took in an aquarium in Bermuda.
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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-15 Thread William Robb

On 15/09/2012 6:17 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

what do you mean?
43 will be very similar to 31 now, and 77 to 43.



I found all three of them to be not quite long enough. T
The 31 is neither long enough nor wide enough. It falls right in the 
middle of useless.


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Re: PESO - Pastoral Scene

2012-09-15 Thread kwaller

Nice capture, good subject matter.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" 

Subject: PESO - Pastoral Scene



http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/15/pastoral-scene

Pentax Q / Standard Zoom

Comments welcomed.

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Re: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread kwaller

Love it! I guess a shark had gotten the rest of him!

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- Original Message - 
From: "David Parsons" 

Subject: PESO: A day at the aquarium



http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/

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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-15 Thread kwaller

Thanks frank.

I am especially impressed with the exposure; the pup is perfectly exposed 
yet there is lots of detail in that >white snow.


Yeah, its just the old, outdated K20D doing its lousy job as usual.


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- Original Message - 
From: 

Subject: RE: A second Alaskan Coastal Image


Beautiful image! I am especially impressed with the exposure; the pup is 
perfectly exposed yet there is lots of detail in that white snow.


Wonderful!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: kwal...@peoplepc.com
Sent: September 14, 2012 9/14/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the
Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer 
due

to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several
hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400

Comments appreciated.

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-15 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
what do you mean?
43 will be very similar to 31 now, and 77 to 43.


On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 2:15 AM, William Robb
 wrote:
>
> On 14/09/2012 6:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
>> defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax  
>> some sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest 
>> me if it couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II 
>> matches the noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will 
>> get some excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some 
>> preliminary whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have 
>> fixated on frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect 
>> that much of the rest of the world doesn't care.
>>
>
> A lot of people are really fixated on the 24x36 format, and do sell one brand 
> for another based on that feature.
> I want FF for the viewfinder, but I will mostly stop using some very nice 
> lenses. I won't have much use for my 31, 43 and 77, for example.
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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-15 Thread William Robb

On 14/09/2012 6:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I doubt that a lack of a competitive 24 x 36 camera will lead to immediate 
defections over the holiday buying season, although it might  cost Pentax  some 
sales to impressionable newbies. The Nikon certainly wouldn't interest me if it 
couldn't equal the low-light performance of the K-5. If the K-5 II matches the 
noise performance of the K-5 with much better autofocus, it will get some 
excellent reviews, and it will sell. Their are already some preliminary 
whispers of praise for the filter-free version. Pentaxians have fixated on 
frame dimension  because they don't have a big one. I suspect that much of the 
rest of the world doesn't care.



A lot of people are really fixated on the 24x36 format, and do sell one 
brand for another based on that feature.
I want FF for the viewfinder, but I will mostly stop using some very 
nice lenses. I won't have much use for my 31, 43 and 77, for example.


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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-15 Thread kwaller

That must be a blue cube of sea ice in the background?


Thanks Jack. Actually its a huge chunck of the glacier that had broken off.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image


Nice pose and composition, Ken. That must be a blue cube of sea ice in the 
background?



Jack Davis
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From: "kwal...@peoplepc.com" 
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:47 PM
Subject: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the 
Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due 
to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several 
hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.

Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400

Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. Held my interest.
Paul
On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> On 9/15/2012 12:11 PM, David Parsons wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/
>> 
>> A shot I took in an aquarium in Bermuda.
>> 
> Great shot - really tells a story and the crop on the diver makes if feel a 
> little unusual. Great light as well. Took too seconds before I was humming 
> Ocotopus' Garden...
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PESO - Just Hangin' Around

2012-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
A bit of fun this afternoon.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16462172

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Re: PESO: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A wonderful and enchanting composition.
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Re: PESO: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread Mark C

On 9/15/2012 12:11 PM, David Parsons wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/

A shot I took in an aquarium in Bermuda.

Great shot - really tells a story and the crop on the diver makes if 
feel a little unusual. Great light as well. Took too seconds before I 
was humming Ocotopus' Garden...


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Re: PESO - Pastoral Scene

2012-09-15 Thread Mark C

On 9/15/2012 4:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Mark C

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/15/pastoral-scene 



Pentax Q / Standard Zoom

Comments welcomed.

Mark


Looks like it's got a magenta overcast.

Thanks. Here is an earlier version where I left the colors a little 
flatter  -


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/photoblog2009/IMGP4346_7_8_tm_tu1_L.jpg

I should comment that these are both 3 exposure HDR shots, merged in 
Photomatix, with the normal exposure non-HDR overlayed to soften the HDR 
effect somewhat.


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Re: PESO: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

ha!  That's terrific, DAvid

ann

On 9/15/2012 16:25, Tim Bray wrote:

That is an outstanding picture, in the story it tells and the quality
of light and everything.  The illumination of the little girls is
wonderful. -T

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:11 AM, David Parsons  wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/

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Re: OT monitoring the problem

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
It's a flat panel LCD - havent used a CRT for eons.  This one is only 3 
years old.


I'm sticking with this until it fails totally - at the moment (knock 
wood) smooth sailing.


ann

On 9/15/2012 16:01, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Ann Sanfedele


Well it is a puzzlement...

I'm able to adjust the monitor to 50% and work for hours with nothing
amiss, when something hoovers, I decrease the brightness. sometimes it
starts flickering wildly even at 20% brightness.

I can increase brightness for a short period of time to get closer to
what I think others see before it flickers.

IT went for a couple of days at about 40% with absolutely no problem,
then , suddenly it went nuts again...

Is it possible fluxuation in local electrical ooomph (thinking due to
what others are using in my ancient building, or electrical work being
done recently outside.) is responsible?

Anyway, I'm hoping I dont have to replace this for a while...

ann


I'm afraid your monitor is just getting near the time when it's going to
fail. Is it a CRT or flat panel?

I did have a flat panel (on a laptop) that did something like you are
describing and it ended up being a device similar to the starter on a
fluorescent lamp that had failed. That one was a fairly cheap repair.

But other issues I've had with flat panel displays were just not
economically repairable. They could be fixed, but the estimated cost was
greater than buying a replacement.

I don't know where I would take a CRT to be repaired. All of the places
I used in the past have gone out of business.



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Re: PESO: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread Tim Bray
That is an outstanding picture, in the story it tells and the quality
of light and everything.  The illumination of the little girls is
wonderful. -T

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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/
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Re: OT monitoring the problem

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Yeah - I'm sure it is dust city in the bus this is new YAWk after 
all..  good point.


we did kinda clean contacts (well, my go to guy here did...)
I'll also consider turning off the bus at night... though I usually 
don't  I do turn off the monitor.


ann

On 9/15/2012 15:04, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-09-15 10:30 Ann Sanfedele wrote

I'm able to adjust the monitor to 50% and work for hours with nothing
amiss,
when something hoovers, I decrease the brightness. sometimes it starts
flickering wildly even at 20% brightness.


have you tried clearing dust out from the cooling vents? you can use
something like a Giottos Rocket or a vacuum that doubles as a blower;
this could let it cool itself more efficiently, and is a good practice
even if it doesn't solve this particular problem

also, it sounds like you've got it well correlated to the monitor's
brightness setting, but perhaps that's coincidental and there's a
heat-related problem with the video card in your computer; in other
words, check your computer for dust too




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RE: PESO - Pastoral Scene

2012-09-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark C


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/15/pastoral-scene

Pentax Q / Standard Zoom

Comments welcomed.

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Looks like it's got a magenta overcast.

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RE: OT monitoring the problem

2012-09-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ann Sanfedele


Well it is a puzzlement...

I'm able to adjust the monitor to 50% and work for hours with nothing
amiss, when something hoovers, I decrease the brightness. sometimes it
starts flickering wildly even at 20% brightness.

I can increase brightness for a short period of time to get closer to
what I think others see before it flickers.

IT went for a couple of days at about 40% with absolutely no problem,
then , suddenly it went nuts again...

Is it possible fluxuation in local electrical ooomph (thinking due to
what others are using in my ancient building, or electrical work being
done recently outside.) is responsible?

Anyway, I'm hoping I dont have to replace this for a while...

ann


I'm afraid your monitor is just getting near the time when it's going to 
fail. Is it a CRT or flat panel?


I did have a flat panel (on a laptop) that did something like you are 
describing and it ended up being a device similar to the starter on a 
fluorescent lamp that had failed. That one was a fairly cheap repair.


But other issues I've had with flat panel displays were just not 
economically repairable. They could be fixed, but the estimated cost was 
greater than buying a replacement.


I don't know where I would take a CRT to be repaired. All of the places 
I used in the past have gone out of business.


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Re: PESO - Angus

2012-09-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you John.
So much for use of selective focus :-)
Valuable input.

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> From: Tim ?sleby
>
>
>> If you prefer, direct link to the picture
>> http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/2012/09/angus-young.html
>
>
> Now it makes a little more sense - the guy's got a tattoo of Angus Young.
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> The first time around I was thinking "that doesn't look anything like him".
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Re: No Pentax K mount for new Tamron 70-200/2.8 lens

2012-09-15 Thread Darren Addy
It does appear that people are happier with the "AT-X Pro" but I
haven't figured out what  specifications differences there are between
PRO and a non-PRO Tokina AT-X. I've seen the SD designation on both
the PRO and the Non-Pro.

In any event, a lot of people don't seem to get the difference between
chromatic aberration of the lens and "purple fringing" which most
people agree is caused my the microlenses on the sensor. Thus, I get
kind of tired of hearing that this lens causes this or that, without
also knowing what sensor you are putting the lens in front of.

I also think that some people use a lens in improper conditions. An
f2.8 zoom in this range is probably meant for low-light conditions or
when you are trying to boost your shutter speed to freeze action. If
you are shooting indoors with it, I doubt you get purple fringing. If
you are shooting on a cloudy day, I doubt you get purple fringing. If
you aim it at bare tree branches on a sunny cloudless day at f2.8 (or
there abouts) then I'll bet you get some purple fringing. Mike
Johnston calls this "stressing a lens"
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/how-to-stress-a-camera-le.html
But it still isn't really (probably) being caused by the lens, but by
the bleeding of information at the sensor level.

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Re: OT monitoring the problem

2012-09-15 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-15 10:30 Ann Sanfedele wrote

I'm able to adjust the monitor to 50% and work for hours with nothing amiss,
when something hoovers, I decrease the brightness. sometimes it starts
flickering wildly even at 20% brightness.


have you tried clearing dust out from the cooling vents? you can use something 
like a Giottos Rocket or a vacuum that doubles as a blower; this could let it 
cool itself more efficiently, and is a good practice even if it doesn't solve 
this particular problem


also, it sounds like you've got it well correlated to the monitor's brightness 
setting, but perhaps that's coincidental and there's a heat-related problem 
with the video card in your computer; in other words, check your computer for 
dust too



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Re: PESO - Angus

2012-09-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tim ?sleby


If you prefer, direct link to the picture
http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/2012/09/angus-young.html


Now it makes a little more sense - the guy's got a tattoo of Angus Young.

The first time around I was thinking "that doesn't look anything like him".

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Re: No Pentax K mount for new Tamron 70-200/2.8 lens

2012-09-15 Thread John Sessoms
I've got the auto-focus version. I think it's a damn good lens. I 
haven't noticed fringing.


From: David Mann


That reminds me. Sorry to hijack the thread but does anyone have
experience with the Tokina ATX Pro 80-200 f/2.8? I've seen one selling
locally and a bit of googling shows some people moaning about fringing,
but I'd trust PDMLers a bit more than random internet pixel-peepers.

Cheers,
Dave

On Sep 15, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:



$Subj.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/13/Tamron-SP-70-200mm-F2-8-Di-VC-USD-ultrasonic-focus-motor-and-image-stabilization

It looks like it might be a good lens.
I kind of doubt Pentax would be rebadging that one...

Igor


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RE: PESO - Ominous

2012-09-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: frank theriault


Looking out over Lake Ontario:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/ominous.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Are those lights (especially the two close together) out on the lake, or 
does the shore-line curve around there?


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Re: OT: High Performance Laptops

2012-09-15 Thread Igor Roshchin


Tom,

I also think that SSD and RAM would be more important than the fastest
CPU. The former would speed up loading photos and improve responsiveness
of Photoshop/LR in general. CPU would noticeably help (but still marginally
IMHO) when you ask LR to export a bunch of photos or a web-gallery.
That's where chrunching power speeds things up.


I think I didn't mention why I would consider a desktop - that's the
flexibility of upgrades. While the computer life cycle seemingly became
shorter, I still think a desktop life cycle can be extended for longer.
Also you gain flexibility of choosing the display which is uncoupled
from the choice of the computer itself.
This arguments are relevant when you are talking about large-size
laptops (17"+) that are heaving and only marginally mobile.
Personally, I prefer smaller-display laptops that are light and portable
(12-13" max).

However, if you still want a 17"+, here yet another lead/pointer for you:
http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/alienware-m18x/30910.aspx
(I didn't look into details - there are too many options there...)

hth,

Igor


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Re: PESO - Pastoral Scene

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark,
Well done.  I especially like the blues.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/15/pastoral-scene
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RE: PESO: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> David Parsons
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/
> 
> A shot I took in an aquarium in Bermuda.
> 

that's quite wacky and fun. Needs a shark though.

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PESO - Pastoral Scene

2012-09-15 Thread Mark C

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/15/pastoral-scene

Pentax Q / Standard Zoom

Comments welcomed.

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OT monitoring the problem

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Well it is a puzzlement...

I'm able to adjust the monitor to 50% and work for hours with nothing 
amiss, when something hoovers, I decrease the brightness. sometimes it 
starts flickering wildly even at 20% brightness.


I can increase brightness for a short period of time to get closer to 
what I think others see before it flickers.


IT went for a couple of days at about 40% with absolutely no problem, 
then , suddenly it went nuts again...


Is it possible fluxuation in local electrical ooomph (thinking due to
what others are using in my ancient building, or electrical work being 
done recently outside.) is responsible?


Anyway, I'm hoping I dont have to replace this for a while...

ann

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RE: OT GESO - Protest

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
This is a ~great~ shot:

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_protest/17.htm

And the gallery as a whole is terrific. Very "human" touch you've got here.

Cheers,
frank 

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
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--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang 
Sent: September 15, 2012 9/15/12
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Subject: OT GESO - Protest


Was doing my normal thing in the city, when police and ambulance sirens 
started down George Street (the main drag). Turns out folks were 
protesting that wacky youtube movie. Became unpleasant with the dogs and 
pepper spray.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_protest/index.htm

The first shot in front of Tiffany's is misleading. The US consulate is 
on the other side of the road.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-gas-sydney-protesters-20120915-25yrb.html

But it wasn't like it's being show in the media. The protesters were 
relatively contained, if pretty vocal. The violence only started when 
they were kettled off in Hyde Park and the arrests started. I fully 
support their right to protest. Just seems out of character for such a 
lovely spring afternoon. Kudos to the speaker on the megaphone for 
calming things down with a prayer, and for the NSW police for handling 
it (I'm guessing this wasn't an authorised protest, because normally the 
force would be out ahead of time).

Some of my other less agitated stuff to follow


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PESO: A day at the aquarium

2012-09-15 Thread David Parsons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/7987537002/

A shot I took in an aquarium in Bermuda.

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Re: PESO - Angus

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yeah,

Terrific shot!

cheers,
frank

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From: Derby Chang 
Sent: September 15, 2012 9/15/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Angus


Love it. A tatt portrait.

Aussie Aussie Aussie


On 15/09/2012 9:18 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
> If you prefer, direct link to the picture
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/2012/09/angus-young.html
>
> --
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>
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>
> 
> To err is human
> to arr is pirate
> 
>
>
> 2012/9/13 Tim Øsleby :
>> The bottom picture in this blog post
>> http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/2012/09/blest-2012-dag-1.html
>> It's guitarist and duck walker Angus Young of AC/DC.
>> This may amuse some.
>>
>> Personally I do like the photo too.
>>
>> --
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>>
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>> 
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Re: PESO - Ominous

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
It's a pile of rocks. I guess that the sun setting in the west gave them a red 
hue.

Thanks for looking and commenting!

cheers,
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Sent: September 14, 2012 9/14/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Ominous

Cool. What’s the red thingie? -T

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:15 PM, frank theriault
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> Looking out over Lake Ontario:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/ominous.html
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RE: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful image! I am especially impressed with the exposure; the pup is 
perfectly exposed yet there is lots of detail in that white snow.

Wonderful!

cheers,
frank

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Subject: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the 
Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due 
to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several 
hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
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Re: PESO - Bumper Cars

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Dave, and to the others who commented and those who just looked, I 
thank you, too.

Cheers,
frank 

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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: September 14, 2012 9/14/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Bumper Cars

Well done.

Dave

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM, frank theriault
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> Last month a fun fair came to town:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/bumper-cars.html
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> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
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> More to come, maybe.
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Re: OT GESO - Another sunny Saturday afternoon

2012-09-15 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 15/9/12, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Here's what happened before and after my last post.
>
>http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_sunnysaturday/index.htm

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Re: PESO - Ominous

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Hope you got outta there after shooting that :-)

Bad weather makes for such glorious light -- I love it

ann

On 9/14/2012 22:15, frank theriault wrote:

Looking out over Lake Ontario:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/ominous.html

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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 9/14/2012 23:27, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I like it. A bathing beauty pose!

Great minds.. I was gonna say "Ester Williams"
perfect timing, ken!
ann

 Beautiful color and expert rendering.


Paul


On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:


Nice pose and composition, Ken. That must be a blue cube of sea ice in the 
background?


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Subject: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the Sawyer 
Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due to the 
birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several hundred pups 
and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400

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Re: PESO - The Straw, I forgot the word PESO again

2012-09-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Inspired by that article about mixing stuff that I called Peter Max 
meets Keith Haring?


the tech stuff on this would be interesting... it's fun to do and
kids might like it for a poster.

ann

On 9/14/2012 22:52, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 9/14/2012 7:16 PM, jn289 wrote:

Thanks, Joe



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16459958


Psychedelic.



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Re: PESO - The Straw, I forgot the word PESO again

2012-09-15 Thread Rick Womer
I like it.  Howdja do it?

Rick
 
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 7:16 PM
Subject: PESO - The Straw, I forgot the word PESO again

Thanks, Joe



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PESO: Open Wide !

2012-09-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Cars displaying their engines at classic car night:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16461296

Comments will be appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Ominous

2012-09-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Ominous indeed.  And dark, and moving.
Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:15 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Looking out over Lake Ontario:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/ominous.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice color in the ice, and you caught a great posture and expression
on the little seal.  Charming image!
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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:16 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> on 2012-09-14 18:47 kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote
>>
>> After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the
>> Sawyer
>> Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due to
>> the
>> birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several hundred
>> pups
>> and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
>> Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.
>>
>> 20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400
>
>
> both the color scheme and the partially anthropomorphic creature grab my
> attention; like your last one this for some reason lures me into thoughts of
> pop-culture and surrealism; but it's not some very trippy graffiti in an
> alley somewhere, it's real
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Re: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Wonderful pictures, Doug.  I'm thinking about moving my Posterous stuff too.  
Think I'll try wordpress.  I love i think I can fly.  Go girl!  What a sweetie! 
 Cheers, Christine


On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

> On 9/10/12 3:26 PM, George Sinos wrote:
>> Something strange seems to be going on over at posterous.
>> 
>> Try this link -
>> 
>> George Sinos
> 
> Twitter bought posterous, and seem to have abandoned it. I've moved what I 
> had there over to wordpress (http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com) and will nuke 
> the remains soon, after I give all six of my fans a chance to catch up.
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Re: PESO: Waiting for his solo

2012-09-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bob and Frank!
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On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:06 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Like this a lot!
>
> One of the things I love about seeing jazz live is watching the interaction 
> between musicians as they wait for visual as well as musical cues for things 
> like if they're soloing next:
>
> Little nods, glances, watching each other intently and waiting.
>
> You captured it beautifully.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Sent: September 14, 2012 9/14/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO: Waiting for his solo
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460311
>
> Comments are appreciated.
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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-15 Thread Mark C

Another superb image, Ken. That pup really struck a pose!

On 9/14/2012 10:03 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Very nice Ken, and a rare capture.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:47 PM,   wrote:

After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the
Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due
to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several
hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400

Comments appreciated.

Kenneth Waller
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Re: No Pentax K mount for new Tamron 70-200/2.8 lens

2012-09-15 Thread lrc
Tokina At-x sd 80-200/2.8  
Not the pro.  It will take some time to learn how to get the most out of it, 
but it certainly has potential.  

l...@red4est.com wrote:

>Dave
>I dont remember if that is the tkina 80-200/2.8 I have.  Mine is manusl
>focus and ehen I nail focus it is pretty sharp.
>My shots from last night were shot with it. Some eith a tsmron 2x. 
>I dont have thr exact url but its the most recent set, of Kim Nalley at
>Http://flickr.com/ellarsee
>Look at the set with fluidr to get the exif data.
>
>David Mann  wrote:
>
>>That reminds me.  Sorry to hijack the thread but does anyone have
>>experience with the Tokina ATX Pro 80-200 f/2.8?  I've seen one
>selling
>>locally and a bit of googling shows some people moaning about
>fringing,
>>but I'd trust PDMLers a bit more than random internet pixel-peepers.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Dave
>>
>>On Sep 15, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> $Subj.
>>> 
>>>
>>http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/13/Tamron-SP-70-200mm-F2-8-Di-VC-USD-ultrasonic-focus-motor-and-image-stabilization
>>> 
>>> It looks like it might be a good lens.
>>> I kind of doubt Pentax would be rebadging that one...
>>> 
>>> Igor
>>> 
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RE: PESO - The Straw, I forgot the word PESO again

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Very unique and so colourful! Well composed, too.

A real winner!

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: jn289 
Sent: September 14, 2012 9/14/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - The Straw, I forgot the word PESO again

Thanks, Joe



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RE: PESO: Waiting for his solo

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Like this a lot!

One of the things I love about seeing jazz live is watching the interaction 
between musicians as they wait for visual as well as musical cues for things 
like if they're soloing next:

Little nods, glances, watching each other intently and waiting. 

You captured it beautifully.

Cheers,
frank 

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: September 14, 2012 9/14/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Waiting for his solo

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460311

Comments are appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Dog Boy

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Don! And thanks to the others who commented.

I'd send him the photo, but I have no idea who he is or where he lives. I was 
doing volunteer work for our local humane society at a fundraiser and between 
other "jobs" taking a few photos. This one didn't go on our website or FB page 
but I liked it anyway.

Asked mom permission first (as I try to do every time I snap kids in public).

Glad you all enjoyed.

Thanks as well to those who looked and didn't comment

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: September 14, 2012 9/14/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Dog Boy

I'm sure he enjoyed it. The painted tongue is a nice touch. Send him 
that portrait when he is 25.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:58:14 -0400
> From: frank theriault
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> Subject: PESO - Dog Boy
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> Not sure about his painted face:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/dog-boy.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: PESO - Dog Boy

2012-09-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com


"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: September 14, 2012 9/14/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Dog Boy

I'm sure he enjoyed it. The painted tongue is a nice touch. Send him 
that portrait when he is 25.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:58:14 -0400
> From: frank theriault
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: PESO - Dog Boy
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Not sure about his painted face:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/dog-boy.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank


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Re: PESO - Ominous

2012-09-15 Thread Derby Chang


I'm quite taking to landscape knarf. The grain makes it for me



On 15/09/2012 12:15 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Looking out over Lake Ontario:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/ominous.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Angus

2012-09-15 Thread Derby Chang


Love it. A tatt portrait.

Aussie Aussie Aussie


On 15/09/2012 9:18 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

If you prefer, direct link to the picture
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2012/9/13 Tim Øsleby :

The bottom picture in this blog post
http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/2012/09/blest-2012-dag-1.html
It's guitarist and duck walker Angus Young of AC/DC.
This may amuse some.

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Re: PESO - Angus

2012-09-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
If you prefer, direct link to the picture
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2012/9/13 Tim Øsleby :
> The bottom picture in this blog post
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/2012/09/blest-2012-dag-1.html
> It's guitarist and duck walker Angus Young of AC/DC.
> This may amuse some.
>
> Personally I do like the photo too.
>
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> 
> To err is human
> to arr is pirate
> 

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Re: Weird.

2012-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Probably means they're selling well. 


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> The K-5II is announced and it seems that the price of K-5 cameras in stock 
> goes up.  I wonder what that means.
> 
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OT GESO - Another sunny Saturday afternoon

2012-09-15 Thread Derby Chang


Here's what happened before and after my last post.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_sunnysaturday/index.htm


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OT GESO - Protest

2012-09-15 Thread Derby Chang


Was doing my normal thing in the city, when police and ambulance sirens 
started down George Street (the main drag). Turns out folks were 
protesting that wacky youtube movie. Became unpleasant with the dogs and 
pepper spray.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_protest/index.htm

The first shot in front of Tiffany's is misleading. The US consulate is 
on the other side of the road.


http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-gas-sydney-protesters-20120915-25yrb.html

But it wasn't like it's being show in the media. The protesters were 
relatively contained, if pretty vocal. The violence only started when 
they were kettled off in Hyde Park and the arrests started. I fully 
support their right to protest. Just seems out of character for such a 
lovely spring afternoon. Kudos to the speaker on the megaphone for 
calming things down with a prayer, and for the NSW police for handling 
it (I'm guessing this wasn't an authorised protest, because normally the 
force would be out ahead of time).


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GESO Pentax Q and Raynox 250

2012-09-15 Thread Toine
I don't have a Q to K adapter yet. I do have a raynox 250 and it works
perfectly on the Q and standard 01 lens:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/232-pentax-q-and-raynox-m-250

I think the Q rivals my old K10 and K20. No banding and IQ is more or
less equal. The standard 01 lens is very sharp.

Toine

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Re: Best FF Pentax Rumour Story EVER!!!!!!

2012-09-15 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/9/12, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Seriously:
>
>http://photo.net/pentax-camera-forum/00anEI?start=10
>
>Read the 2nd post from the top, by Garry Ian Young.
>
>:-)

I sincerely hope it happens!

I mean seriously, how hard can it be in his day and age?

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RE: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-15 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> kwal...@peoplepc.com
> 
> After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the
> Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer
> due to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to
> several hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing
> sun.
> Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.
> 
> 20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400
> 

Superb - keep 'em coming!

B


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Re: No Pentax K mount for new Tamron 70-200/2.8 lens

2012-09-15 Thread lrc
Dave
I dont remember if that is the tkina 80-200/2.8 I have.  Mine is manusl focus 
and ehen I nail focus it is pretty sharp.
My shots from last night were shot with it. Some eith a tsmron 2x. 
I dont have thr exact url but its the most recent set, of Kim Nalley at
Http://flickr.com/ellarsee
Look at the set with fluidr to get the exif data.

David Mann  wrote:

>That reminds me.  Sorry to hijack the thread but does anyone have
>experience with the Tokina ATX Pro 80-200 f/2.8?  I've seen one selling
>locally and a bit of googling shows some people moaning about fringing,
>but I'd trust PDMLers a bit more than random internet pixel-peepers.
>
>Cheers,
>Dave
>
>On Sep 15, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> $Subj.
>> 
>>
>http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/13/Tamron-SP-70-200mm-F2-8-Di-VC-USD-ultrasonic-focus-motor-and-image-stabilization
>> 
>> It looks like it might be a good lens.
>> I kind of doubt Pentax would be rebadging that one...
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
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