Re: PESO - Prague PDML gathering

2012-12-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16688489size=lg
 
 Seventeen proud members in their cormorant costumes, resting near the Charles 
 Bridge.  Couldn't interest any in a beer, though, so I question their bona 
 fides.

Quite the sizeable gathering.  By the end of the day you must have been totally 
shagged.

 

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The other side of the fence

2012-12-22 Thread Larry Colen
A friend of mine recently picked up a D600, primarily for photographing 
dancers.  I was talking to him tonight and he is thinking of returning it.  He 
is completely disappointed in it's lack of ability to focus in low light.  

Just sayin'

I do hope to do a side by side with it and the K-5 in the near future.


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RE: PESO - Prague PDML gathering

2012-12-22 Thread Bob W

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16688489size=lg
 
 Seventeen proud members in their cormorant costumes, resting near the
 Charles Bridge.  Couldn't interest any in a beer, though, so I question
 their bona fides.
 

Beautiful plumage!

B


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RE: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 Congratulations.
 
 I've always wanted to play but have had a million excuses.
 

back in the mid-late 80s I bought a cheap guitar in a junk shop, a copy of
Juan Martin's book and taught my self to play flamenco very badly. After a
year I started to have lessons from an extremely good flamenco player - who
didn't think much of 'little Johnny Martin' - and stuck with him for 2 or 3
years, but I never overcame my ingrained bad habits, and I discovered that I
have no talent at all, and no ability to keep time (strict compas, as it's
called, is absolutely essential in flamenco). It came as something of a
relief when one day my guitar snapped in mid-rasgueado. I interpreted it as
a message from Aoede, and have never strummed a fandango since.

My advice to would-be guitarists is to take lessons and buy a soundproof
room.

B


 Good on ya!
 
 Picture of the axe, please.
 
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 --- Original Message ---
 
 From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 Sent: December 21, 2012 12/21/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)
 
 Don't know if anybody here plays or not, but I've decided to stop
 putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
 guitar.
 
 After exercising my Google Fu, talking to a guitar-playing coworker and
 asking a couple of questions on the Acoustic Guitar Forum, I decided to
 get a Seagull S6 (original). If I bought new, I was going to go with
 Cedar but I tripped across a **gorgeous** 20th Anniversary edition
 that is Spruce and Maple with a high gloss finish (semi-gloss being the
 usual finish on a Seagull S6). They only made
 2000 of these, apparently and I got it for a LOT less than a new one.
 I'm always about bang-for-the-buck. It won't be in my hot little hands
 for a week or two yet when I get it from a friend, but I'm looking
 forward to trying to learn (Old Dog, New Tricks).
 
 I've already discovered the aforementioned forum and justinguitar.com
 (along with his YouTube channel:
 http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinSandercoe ) and I plan to start with
 his beginner's course and a book before possibly going to a local
 teacher for lessons.
 
 Anyway, any words of wisdom from The Collective who play would be most
 welcome.


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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread C Brendemuehl
I play a bit.  Am not familiar with the seagull though.  Mine is a Contreras.
First, enjoy.  And like chess, photography, etc., decide how much time you have 
and what level of expertise you want to attain and go from there.
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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread mike wilson

On 22/12/2012 10:39, Bob W wrote:


It came as something of a
relief when one day my guitar snapped in mid-rasgueado.


This flamenco tutor's second name wouldn't have been Townsend, by any 
chance?


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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't know if anybody here plays or not, but I've decided to stop
 putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
 guitar.
Good for you, I have a guitar, but i broke it in 2000, its
unrepairable so i have been planning to buy another, but never getting
around to it. Maybe i'll try again.:-)

Dave

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Re: The other side of the fence

2012-12-22 Thread George Sinos
Interesting.  It's advertised to -1 EV (while the pentax is advertised
to -3ev.)  If those ratings are accurate a performance difference
would be expected.

That being said, it would be interesting to know the AF settings and
what he was using for a lens.  If he was using it right out of the box
with the kit lens, I would think the types of dancing shots you have
posted in the past would be a challenge for any camera's autofocus
system.

gs
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 A friend of mine recently picked up a D600, primarily for photographing 
 dancers.  I was talking to him tonight and he is thinking of returning it.  
 He is completely disappointed in it's lack of ability to focus in low light.

 Just sayin'

 I do hope to do a side by side with it and the K-5 in the near future.


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Re: PESO - Prague PDML gathering

2012-12-22 Thread Rick Womer
Yeah. Hours of carping at each other.


 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Subject: Re: PESO - Prague PDML gathering


On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16688489size=lg
 
 Seventeen proud members in their cormorant costumes, resting near the Charles 
 Bridge.  Couldn't interest any in a beer, though, so I question their bona 
 fides.

Quite the sizeable gathering.  By the end of the day you must have been totally 
shagged.

 

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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread Doug Brewer
I've played guitar most of my life, with a reasonable amount of skill 
though I have no high aspirations; I just enjoy doing it.


Other than lessons, which has already been suggested, I have found it's 
always good to have someone else to play with regularly.


Something I've discovered recently, since I don't have the social time 
to get together with other players, is youtube. Look for guitar backing 
tracks in different keys. It's a great way to practice scales, to hear 
how different notes blend or don't blend, and you're sort of forced to 
stick with the rhythm.


There are also different websites where you can find out where on the 
neck to find different voicings of chords, scales, and whatnot.


An hour a day is good is you can manage it. I think of it as a sort of 
meditation. Don't try to force things. Just relax and have some fun. 
It's very rewarding.


On 12/21/12 8:13 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Don't know if anybody here plays or not, but I've decided to stop
putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
guitar.

After exercising my Google Fu, talking to a guitar-playing coworker
and asking a couple of questions on the Acoustic Guitar Forum, I
decided to get a Seagull S6 (original). If I bought new, I was going
to go with Cedar but I tripped across a **gorgeous** 20th
Anniversary edition that is Spruce and Maple with a high gloss finish
(semi-gloss being the usual finish on a Seagull S6). They only made
2000 of these, apparently and I got it for a LOT less than a new one.
I'm always about bang-for-the-buck. It won't be in my hot little hands
for a week or two yet when I get it from a friend, but I'm looking
forward to trying to learn (Old Dog, New Tricks).

I've already discovered the aforementioned forum and justinguitar.com
(along with his YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinSandercoe ) and I plan to start with
his beginner's course and a book before possibly going to a local
teacher for lessons.

Anyway, any words of wisdom from The Collective who play would be most welcome.




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Re: PESO - Outside St. Vitus

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Rick,

That's a beautiful photo! The finishing touch of course, is the perfectly 
placed nuns striding in front of the church.

Amazing!

cheers,
frank

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From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Outside St. Vitus

Rick, I humbly submit to the court that (on my Spyder2 profiled screen) 
your images seems to have too much pink/purple tones... May be it was 
this way in real life, but I think you might want to correct at least 
some of this effect.

On 12/11/2012 3:48 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16660312

 Comments welcome!

 Rick



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RE: PESO - Tyn Church

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Amazing light!

cheers,
frank

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From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Tyn Church

Prague's Tyn (Teen) Church, from the rear:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16674895

Comments appreciated!

Rick


 
P.S. to Boris: This one was way magenta as originally posted; most of the shift 
seems to have occurred in the transfer.  This one is adjusted.  Thanks for the 
heads-up.

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RE: PESO: Madonna

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
A face portrayed with great beatitude and serenity. Well captured by you.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
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Subject: PESO: Madonna

Detail from a Christmas card:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670440

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RE: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wonderful images of automotive exotica. Saturation is a bit heavy for my 
tastes, though.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net
Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

The Lane Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in 
Nashville, Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European 
vehicles in the United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they 
only have on average 150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the 
U.S., on display.

The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The 
majority of the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they 
do have some from the 20's and as current as 2000.

Here is a link to the gallery:
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739

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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wonderful memories of you playing guitar at GFM, Doug. IIRC Tom V.V. pulled out 
a guitar (one year at least) and you two did a bit of picking and strumming 
together.

If there's a better place to hear that than in a forest on a mountainside of 
the Blue Ridge Mountains I don't know it.

Cheers,
frank


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From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com
Sent: December 22, 2012 12/22/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

I've played guitar most of my life, with a reasonable amount of skill 
though I have no high aspirations; I just enjoy doing it.

Other than lessons, which has already been suggested, I have found it's 
always good to have someone else to play with regularly.

Something I've discovered recently, since I don't have the social time 
to get together with other players, is youtube. Look for guitar backing 
tracks in different keys. It's a great way to practice scales, to hear 
how different notes blend or don't blend, and you're sort of forced to 
stick with the rhythm.

There are also different websites where you can find out where on the 
neck to find different voicings of chords, scales, and whatnot.

An hour a day is good is you can manage it. I think of it as a sort of 
meditation. Don't try to force things. Just relax and have some fun. 
It's very rewarding.

On 12/21/12 8:13 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
 Don't know if anybody here plays or not, but I've decided to stop
 putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
 guitar.

 After exercising my Google Fu, talking to a guitar-playing coworker
 and asking a couple of questions on the Acoustic Guitar Forum, I
 decided to get a Seagull S6 (original). If I bought new, I was going
 to go with Cedar but I tripped across a **gorgeous** 20th
 Anniversary edition that is Spruce and Maple with a high gloss finish
 (semi-gloss being the usual finish on a Seagull S6). They only made
 2000 of these, apparently and I got it for a LOT less than a new one.
 I'm always about bang-for-the-buck. It won't be in my hot little hands
 for a week or two yet when I get it from a friend, but I'm looking
 forward to trying to learn (Old Dog, New Tricks).

 I've already discovered the aforementioned forum and justinguitar.com
 (along with his YouTube channel:
 http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinSandercoe ) and I plan to start with
 his beginner's course and a book before possibly going to a local
 teacher for lessons.

 Anyway, any words of wisdom from The Collective who play would be most 
 welcome.



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Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. Whatever happened to them

2012-12-22 Thread Bipin Gupta
Steve, I agree with you 100%, that it's more the photographer than the
equipment. Believe me, I wanted to add that my photo composition,
indoor white balance (no flash on new born's face), dark area clarity
and overall rendition of the scene - baby, mother and father - was
better than the Kid's with his Canon EOS T3i. Just that my humility
prevented me to add these lines.
But what I noticed was, the Kid was shooting in fully Auto mode -
equivalent Green mode on Pentax - and still all his photos turned out
crisp, clear, colorful, sharp and perfectly exposed - when I had to do
some fine tuning from the initial shots. I shoot mostly in Av - 80% 
M - 20%, Spot Metering.
May be the Canons have a better hardware and software built into their
cameras, because I noticed this also on a Canon 60D in our group tour
of Europe last fall.
I was shooting with my Pentax K20D and a Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6 + Tamron 28-75 f2.8.
Regards. Bipin.
camp: Thornhill, Ontario, Canada  not the far away enchanting land.

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Re: PAW154 - Red

2012-12-22 Thread DagT
Wow, thanks all of you, Marnie, knarf, Christine, Ann, Cotty, Dan, Bruce and 
P.J.!

Like Ann said, I was asked to make a christmas card for my job. They chose 
another one, a bit cuter, with a small santa instead of the leaf.


Dag Thrane
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17. des. 2012 kl. 06:09 skrev eactiv...@aol.com:

 That is really impressive. Beautiful shot. The  dry leaf makes it, of 
 course.
 
 HTH, Marnie aka Doe 
 
 In a message  dated 12/16/2012 1:49:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
 li...@thrane.name  writes:
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Pentax  K-5, D FA 100mm macro, f/13, 15s,  ISO100.
 
 DagT
 http://www.thrane.name/
 
 
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PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread Eactivist
Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am  
making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some 
pictures. 

I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.  

I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but  
think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning  
some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but  
okay.)

Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)
 

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Re: PESO: Madonna

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 A face portrayed with great beatitude and serenity. Well captured by you.

 Cheers,
 frank

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 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Madonna

 Detail from a Christmas card:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670440

 Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: Cherry Blossoms

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Christine.  My wife did the painting;  I just grabbed an image
of a small detail.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 That's pretty, Dan!  Cheers, Christine


 On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macro detail from an oil painting in our home:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670441
 Comments, criticisms and suggestions are always appreciated.
 Dan Matyola
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RE: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Now ~that~ is a cliche, but it's such a beautiful scene, so expertly captured 
by you that one can't help but be in awe of the beauty.

Very well composed and rendered.

A worthy inclusion for your calendar!

cheers,
frank

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From: eactiv...@aol.com
Sent: December 22, 2012 12/22/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am  
making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some 
pictures. 

I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.  

I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but  
think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning  
some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but  
okay.)

Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)
 

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Re: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a classic image, quite suitable for a calendar.  Great
composition;  I really like it.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am
 making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some
 pictures.

 I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.

 I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but
 think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning
 some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but
 okay.)

 Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

 Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

 Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. Whatever happened to them

2012-12-22 Thread Steve Sharpe

At 10:33 AM -0500 12/22/12, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Steve, I agree with you 100%, that it's more the photographer than the
equipment. Believe me, I wanted to add that my photo composition,
indoor white balance (no flash on new born's face), dark area clarity
and overall rendition of the scene - baby, mother and father - was
better than the Kid's with his Canon EOS T3i. Just that my humility
prevented me to add these lines.
But what I noticed was, the Kid was shooting in fully Auto mode -
equivalent Green mode on Pentax - and still all his photos turned out
crisp, clear, colorful, sharp and perfectly exposed - when I had to do
some fine tuning from the initial shots. I shoot mostly in Av - 80% 
M - 20%, Spot Metering.
May be the Canons have a better hardware and software built into their
cameras, because I noticed this also on a Canon 60D in our group tour
of Europe last fall.
I was shooting with my Pentax K20D and a Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6 + Tamron 
28-75 f2.8.

Regards. Bipin.
camp: Thornhill, Ontario, Canada  not the far away enchanting land.


Maybe. I've noticed that my old Nikon D70's pop-up flash does a far 
better job than any of my more modern Pentax flashes. Flash 
photography is another one of Pentax's Achilles heels. I avoid it if 
possible.


But in-body image stabilization? Compatibility with even old lenses? 
And the great glass? That's what keeps me using Pentax.


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Re: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice. love it

Dave

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am
 making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some
 pictures.

 I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.

 I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but
 think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning
 some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but
 okay.)

 Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

 Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

 Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: PAW154 - Red

2012-12-22 Thread David J Brooks
Super

Dave

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 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Pentax K-5, D FA 100mm macro, f/13, 15s, ISO100.

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Re:PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread Don Guthrie

Not much wrong with that photo. Shoot more post more repeat as needed.


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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:43:06 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am
making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some
pictures.

I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.

I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but
think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning
some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but
okay.)

Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe:-)




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Re: peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch

2012-12-22 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks for the comments on the holly branch  photo. It is nice to have 
online editors, on call. Made a few changes before I do anything else 
with it.


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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. Whatever happened to them?

2012-12-22 Thread Tom C
 From: Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com

 Steve, I agree with you 100%, that it's more the photographer than the
 equipment.
 But what I noticed was, the Kid was shooting in fully Auto mode -
 equivalent Green mode on Pentax - and still all his photos turned out
 crisp, clear, colorful, sharp and perfectly exposed - when I had to do
 some fine tuning from the initial shots. I shoot mostly in Av - 80% 
 M - 20%, Spot Metering.
 May be the Canons have a better hardware and software built into their
 cameras, because I noticed this also on a Canon 60D in our group tour
 of Europe last fall.
 I was shooting with my Pentax K20D and a Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6 + Tamron 28-75 
 f2.8.

We're you looking at his LCD or his finished product? As you know
viewing at small size on an LCD hides myriads of flaws.

My experience with the K20D was that I had frequent exposure problems.
The K-7 fixed that. It got noisy far too fast at medium-high ISO and
relative short exposure times. The K-5 fixed that. The K-5II
supposedly improves on auto-focus. I'd say the K-5/ K-5II is what the
K20D should have been.

Certainly it's more about the photographer than the camera. But not
one of us is going to forego his DSLR or digital ILC and start
consistently shooting with a K1000.

Tom C.

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Re: PESO - Shop 'Til You Drop - the culprits (caution:, messenger content)

2012-12-22 Thread Don Guthrie
Lost you original message Frank, but I thought the photo was fine so I 
would not worry about the ISO. Grungy album cover is a good look for 
this pic.


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Re: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread Jack Davis
This shot easily makes the cut for me, Marnie!
The dodge tool to brighten the clouds across the top might be the easy 
answer.(?)
 
Jack

From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
To: pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:43 AM
Subject: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am  
making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some 
pictures. 

I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.  

I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but  
think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning  
some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but  
okay.)

Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread Darren Addy
Wow, thanks for all the great tips! I will certainly share pics of the
guitar after I have it in my hot little hands. Hoping to go out and
get it from my friend on New Years Day, but that could change.

I'm eager to get started on my therapy.

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. Whatever happened to them

2012-12-22 Thread P. J. Alling

Pentax's view: Real photographers use manual flash.

On 12/22/2012 11:14 AM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

At 10:33 AM -0500 12/22/12, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Steve, I agree with you 100%, that it's more the photographer than the
equipment. Believe me, I wanted to add that my photo composition,
indoor white balance (no flash on new born's face), dark area clarity
and overall rendition of the scene - baby, mother and father - was
better than the Kid's with his Canon EOS T3i. Just that my humility
prevented me to add these lines.
But what I noticed was, the Kid was shooting in fully Auto mode -
equivalent Green mode on Pentax - and still all his photos turned out
crisp, clear, colorful, sharp and perfectly exposed - when I had to do
some fine tuning from the initial shots. I shoot mostly in Av - 80% 
M - 20%, Spot Metering.
May be the Canons have a better hardware and software built into their
cameras, because I noticed this also on a Canon 60D in our group tour
of Europe last fall.
I was shooting with my Pentax K20D and a Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6 + Tamron 
28-75 f2.8.

Regards. Bipin.
camp: Thornhill, Ontario, Canada  not the far away enchanting land.


Maybe. I've noticed that my old Nikon D70's pop-up flash does a far 
better job than any of my more modern Pentax flashes. Flash 
photography is another one of Pentax's Achilles heels. I avoid it if 
possible.


But in-body image stabilization? Compatibility with even old lenses? 
And the great glass? That's what keeps me using Pentax.





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Re: The other side of the fence

2012-12-22 Thread P. J. Alling

Larry's using the K-5 which is rated to EV -1 as well.

On 12/22/2012 9:22 AM, George Sinos wrote:

Interesting.  It's advertised to -1 EV (while the pentax is advertised
to -3ev.)  If those ratings are accurate a performance difference
would be expected.

That being said, it would be interesting to know the AF settings and
what he was using for a lens.  If he was using it right out of the box
with the kit lens, I would think the types of dancing shots you have
posted in the past would be a challenge for any camera's autofocus
system.

gs
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

A friend of mine recently picked up a D600, primarily for photographing 
dancers.  I was talking to him tonight and he is thinking of returning it.  He 
is completely disappointed in it's lack of ability to focus in low light.

Just sayin'

I do hope to do a side by side with it and the K-5 in the near future.


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Re: OT: Ain't Technology Great!

2012-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt,
Good to hear.  WalMart is close by.
Does the Epson let you specify what paper you are using?
My printer is so old I can't control for the paper I've got.
Makes printing a real guessing game.
Your's sounds like a good solution.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ever since I quit printing my own ink jet prints and started using
 Costco for RA prints, I have been using an older HP 4 in 1 printer. It
 proved to be fine other than I could never get the FAX to work, but
 that was because of my network provider and I was too lazy to pursue
 the matter.
 A few days ago I ran out of black ink, and I knew the color was low as
 well, so off to Costco I go. The ink pkg there, one color and one BW
 was about 48 bucks. A ripoff, we all know! Well, now it is packaged in
 separate pkgs, either 3 BW or 3 Color, 102 bucks each Bull
 Hockey!  I left and went to Walmart. There was the one of each for 43
 bucks. So I picked one up, and then my eye saw an Epson printer, sorta
 like my HP, but no FAX, significantly more compact, a better paper
 path, 5 inks, and it was wireless Smart Print, so I could use my IPAD
 with it :-)  52 bucks.  Done deal, I said, and grabbed one.

 Get home, set it up, and it was super easy and worked the first time.
 It prints from both IMac and IPAD without any hiccups. I am pleased.
 Yesterday the wife hands me and old 8x10 BW and says to scan it so I
 powered up the HP and went to the application folder to find the one I
 had always used. Thought I had it, double clicked, and it offered me a
 scan preview page for the Epson. Oh, what the heck, I says, I'll try
 it. Put the print on the platen, close the lid, click the mouse. Ten
 seconds later there is an icon on the desktop of the print. I open in
 PS and it is gorgeous. I mean perfect. Even no dust spots! I make a
 print, I put a copy on my FB page. Everything is great, the world is
 at peace. I am happy!!

 Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and Peace and Goodwill to all the
 PDML'ers out there !

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PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread SV Hovland
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140051authkey=!ADGb7Crmc3prjF4

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Re: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Marnie,  Looks great, shoot more!   Bob S.

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:43 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am
 making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some
 pictures.

 I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.

 I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but
 think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning
 some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but
 okay.)

 Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

 Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

 Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: The other side of the fence

2012-12-22 Thread Larry Colen
Luiz,
His other camera is a G5 which he just upgraded to from a G1.  He has a bunch 
of Nikon film gear.


On Dec 22, 2012, at 6:22 AM, George Sinos wrote:

 Interesting.  It's advertised to -1 EV (while the pentax is advertised
 to -3ev.)  If those ratings are accurate a performance difference
 would be expected.
 
 That being said, it would be interesting to know the AF settings and
 what he was using for a lens.  If he was using it right out of the box
 with the kit lens, I would think the types of dancing shots you have
 posted in the past would be a challenge for any camera's autofocus
 system.

The lens he was using was a 35mm/f2, with screw drive focus.  So pretty close 
in specs to my FA31/1.8

In the venue he was photographing, I have to pre-focus with the K-5, at least 
in most parts of it.  

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. Whatever happened to them

2012-12-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 22, 2012, at 9:31 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Pentax's view: Real photographers use manual flash.

Nope, Pentax's view is that photographers shoot in manual light or use studio 
flash.  My AF-540 won't freaking stay in manual mode for any predictable amount 
of time. And yes I've set all the configuration bits on it so it doesn't turn 
off.

It has a new stunt.  You know how the vertical angle of the head can be set, 
and you press the button on the side to change the angle?
It no longer permanently clicks in.  It has some sort of a detent, but you 
don't have to bother pressing the grey button on the side of the head to 
readjust it.

As soon as I can afford it, I'm buying a Metz.


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3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

2012-12-22 Thread Tom C
I stopped by for a quick visit to the Vintage Radio and Communications
Museum of Connecticut near the Hartford airport on Thursday. Only had
about an hour. An interesting place. Difficult for photography, as
it's either harshly or dimly lit in spots. If I go back it'll be with
a tripod, polarizer, and an extra 2 hours.

I've liked old radios ever since I was 6 or 7 when my dad gave me a
1920's Philco 3-band (2 SW and regular AM). I listened to it for hours
with an old pair of hard Bakelite headphones. Still have it.

http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=564018

As usual, maybe better with a double-click for a larger version.

http://www.vrcmct.org/

Tom C.

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PESO: Enjoy!

2012-12-22 Thread SV Hovland
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140052authkey=!AM_HRreYwkowFCI

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Re: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

2012-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Tom,
I have an old shortwave bug in me as well.
I find that my Antenna PBS stations (11.4 and 20.3)
have news broadcast from other countries, but in English.
Quite interesting to observe.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I stopped by for a quick visit to the Vintage Radio and Communications
 Museum of Connecticut near the Hartford airport on Thursday. Only had
 about an hour. An interesting place. Difficult for photography, as
 it's either harshly or dimly lit in spots. If I go back it'll be with
 a tripod, polarizer, and an extra 2 hours.

 I've liked old radios ever since I was 6 or 7 when my dad gave me a
 1920's Philco 3-band (2 SW and regular AM). I listened to it for hours
 with an old pair of hard Bakelite headphones. Still have it.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=564018

 As usual, maybe better with a double-click for a larger version.

 http://www.vrcmct.org/

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RE: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

2012-12-22 Thread Gerrit Visser
Very nice.
Great reminder of the past, when the smell of tubes (valves) heating up was
a routine experience.

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tom C
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

I stopped by for a quick visit to the Vintage Radio and Communications
Museum of Connecticut near the Hartford airport on Thursday. Only had about
an hour. An interesting place. Difficult for photography, as it's either
harshly or dimly lit in spots. If I go back it'll be with a tripod,
polarizer, and an extra 2 hours.

I've liked old radios ever since I was 6 or 7 when my dad gave me a 1920's
Philco 3-band (2 SW and regular AM). I listened to it for hours with an old
pair of hard Bakelite headphones. Still have it.

http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=564018

As usual, maybe better with a double-click for a larger version.

http://www.vrcmct.org/

Tom C.

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Re: PESO - Outside St. Vitus

2012-12-22 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Frank!  I must have taken 20 photos of those nuns as they walked along, 
occasionally stopping.  This was the best of them.

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Subject: Re: PESO - Outside St. Vitus

Rick,

That's a beautiful photo! The finishing touch of course, is the perfectly 
placed nuns striding in front of the church.

Amazing!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Outside St. Vitus

Rick, I humbly submit to the court that (on my Spyder2 profiled screen) 
your images seems to have too much pink/purple tones... May be it was 
this way in real life, but I think you might want to correct at least 
some of this effect.

On 12/11/2012 3:48 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16660312

 Comments welcome!

 Rick



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Re: [PlainText] Testing from iPad

2012-12-22 Thread Rick Womer
Text and pic received.
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 6:13 PM
Subject: [PlainText] Testing from iPad

This is a test sending to the PDML from the iPad with Plain Text. 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0cvv86li2iwjd9b/111231-1046.jpg

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. Whatever happened to them

2012-12-22 Thread Bruce Walker
Dude, face it: yer 540 is _broken_. As in: not up to spec. Ie: your
issue isn't a design fault.

I'm not the only one on this list who has an AF540 or two that work
100% consistently in manual mode. My two are absolute workhorses. I
have fired both of them, in manual, both at full power, constantly
during a three hour shoot. Even changed the batteries once during.
Both flashes were very hot to the touch when I wrapped up, but no
misfires, no dropping out of the mode they were set to.

That said, I won't buy another Pentax flash. If I need another hotshoe
flash, I'm going to try Metz. But for value and power I'll more likely
get an Alien Bees strobe and Vagabond Mini battery pack. Total cost is
less than current AF-540 retail. I almost never put a flash on the
camera, so that form-factor isn't necessary to me.


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 On Dec 22, 2012, at 9:31 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Pentax's view: Real photographers use manual flash.

 Nope, Pentax's view is that photographers shoot in manual light or use studio 
 flash.  My AF-540 won't freaking stay in manual mode for any predictable 
 amount of time. And yes I've set all the configuration bits on it so it 
 doesn't turn off.

 It has a new stunt.  You know how the vertical angle of the head can be set, 
 and you press the button on the side to change the angle?
 It no longer permanently clicks in.  It has some sort of a detent, but you 
 don't have to bother pressing the grey button on the side of the head to 
 readjust it.

 As soon as I can afford it, I'm buying a Metz.


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Re: The other side of the fence

2012-12-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Larry, I opine that this is quite natural. You see, when one sees the 
specs (K-5 can shoot at ISO 51200 and D600 if I am not mistaken can go 
to ISO 25600) one does not notice how dark it may be. That is, if I take 
my DA* 16-50/2.8 lens, and have to shoot at 1/30 sec, ISO 6400, I kind 
of assume that all other camera systems should work just so, but of 
course they don't.


I would suggest to you to suggest to your friend to give his camera a 
second chance having the above idea in mind.


Here I'd like to recollect my most recent experience. My friends from 
Moscow Uni where I studied, and I went to one of the local restaurants 
for an evening meal and a friendly chat. That photograph of a night sea 
shore that I recently posted is from that meeting. I was with K-5 and 
DA* 16-50/2.8 and one of my friends was with Canon 7D and Sigma 
17-50/2.8 HSM OS. So in a sense we were on par in terms of gear. My K-5 
really struggled with AF at ISO 3200, f/2.8, 1/25 sec. I tried his 
camera - it was fast and very sure of itself - no or just minimal 
hunting. In terms of noise K-5 was clearly superior, but other than that 
- 7D was totally no slouch. I don't think that modern D600 would have 
done worse than rather oldish 7D in this kind of situation.


So I am thinking that your friend indeed is simply pushing his camera 
far too deep into the shadows, in a manner of speaking.


On 12/22/2012 10:07 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

A friend of mine recently picked up a D600, primarily for
photographing dancers.  I was talking to him tonight and he is
thinking of returning it.  He is completely disappointed in it's lack
of ability to focus in low light.

Just sayin'

I do hope to do a side by side with it and the K-5 in the near
future.


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Re: [PlainText] Testing from iPad

2012-12-22 Thread Bruce Walker
Albeit with a 13 day delay. :-)

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Text and pic received.

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com
 To: PDML PDML@pdml.net
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 Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 6:13 PM
 Subject: [PlainText] Testing from iPad

 This is a test sending to the PDML from the iPad with Plain Text.

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0cvv86li2iwjd9b/111231-1046.jpg

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Re: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread Rick Womer
Marnie,

Don't change a thing.  It's a beautiful photo.

Rick
 
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Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:43 AM
Subject: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am  
making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some 
pictures. 

I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.  

I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but  
think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning  
some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but  
okay.)

Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

2012-12-22 Thread Bruce Walker
Yes, and not to forget lots of 60Hz hum. Plus, I left traces of burned
epidermis on more than one 6L6 and 12AU7. :-)


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very nice.
 Great reminder of the past, when the smell of tubes (valves) heating up was
 a routine experience.

 Gerrit

 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tom C
 Sent: December 22, 2012 1:17 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

 I stopped by for a quick visit to the Vintage Radio and Communications
 Museum of Connecticut near the Hartford airport on Thursday. Only had about
 an hour. An interesting place. Difficult for photography, as it's either
 harshly or dimly lit in spots. If I go back it'll be with a tripod,
 polarizer, and an extra 2 hours.

 I've liked old radios ever since I was 6 or 7 when my dad gave me a 1920's
 Philco 3-band (2 SW and regular AM). I listened to it for hours with an old
 pair of hard Bakelite headphones. Still have it.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=564018

 As usual, maybe better with a double-click for a larger version.

 http://www.vrcmct.org/

 Tom C.

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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-22 Thread Rick Womer
I like it.

Would it be possible to post your photos larger?

Rick
 
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:52 AM
Subject: PESO - Redwood Quiet

Not the same group of Redwoods as last time and  not as good, but maybe 
good enough for the calendar I am putting together for  friends. (And I am 
pretty sure they are Redwoods.)

Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley hills and came across a park 
with a grassy area and picnic  tables. There was a Redwood grove up on the 
edge of the hill, so I almost called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

One of the thing I like about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet standing 
under them, peaceful and calming.  

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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Re: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread Bruce Walker
That's a beaut, Marnie. No extra clouds needed.


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Didn't have enough decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am
 making for friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some
 pictures.

 I have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.

 I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds, but
 think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking of cloning
 some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a little later, but
 okay.)

 Anyway, I think you can see why I like this as a  subject.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

 Out  of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

 Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

2012-12-22 Thread Tom C
 I stopped by for a quick visit to the Vintage Radio and Communications
 Museum of Connecticut near the Hartford airport on Thursday. Only had
 about an hour. An interesting place. Difficult for photography, as
 it's either harshly or dimly lit in spots. If I go back it'll be with
 a tripod, polarizer, and an extra 2 hours.

 I've liked old radios ever since I was 6 or 7 when my dad gave me a
 1920's Philco 3-band (2 SW and regular AM). I listened to it for hours
 with an old pair of hard Bakelite headphones. Still have it.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=564018

 As usual, maybe better with a double-click for a larger version.

 http://www.vrcmct.org/

 Tom C.

 Tom,
 I have an old shortwave bug in me as well.
 I find that my Antenna PBS stations (11.4 and 20.3)
 have news broadcast from other countries, but in English.
 Quite interesting to observe.

It fuels the imagination, sitting in the dark with the hum and the
heat given up by the tubes. Hearing foreign langauages, WWV, Voice of
America, morse code, slowly turning the tuning dial hearing the alien
noises it produces. I still love to tune in to shortwave.

Nowadays with convenience of internet radio a little of the romance is
gone. Yes you can still get shortwave with it's hit and miss nature or
you can instantly stream a crystal clear broadcast every time. The new
technology is great, the old was more fun.

Tom C.

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 80, Issue 167

2012-12-22 Thread Tom C
Thanks Gerrit.

Tom C.

 From: Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com
 Very nice.
 Great reminder of the past, when the smell of tubes (valves) heating up was
 a routine experience.

 Gerrit

 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tom C
 Sent: December 22, 2012 1:17 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

 I stopped by for a quick visit to the Vintage Radio and Communications
 Museum of Connecticut near the Hartford airport on Thursday. Only had about
 an hour. An interesting place. Difficult for photography, as it's either
 harshly or dimly lit in spots. If I go back it'll be with a tripod,
 polarizer, and an extra 2 hours.

 I've liked old radios ever since I was 6 or 7 when my dad gave me a 1920's
 Philco 3-band (2 SW and regular AM). I listened to it for hours with an old
 pair of hard Bakelite headphones. Still have it.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=564018

 As usual, maybe better with a double-click for a larger version.

 http://www.vrcmct.org/

 Tom C.

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Re: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread kwaller

Nice capture  rendition.
I'd allow a little more space between the image and the side edges.

Kenneth Waller
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From: SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org

Subject: PESO: Shoes



https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140051authkey=!ADGb7Crmc3prjF4

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Re: OT: Ain't Technology Great!

2012-12-22 Thread steve harley

on 2012-12-22 6:24 Walter Hamler wrote

Ever since I quit printing my own ink jet prints and started using
Costco for RA prints, I have been using an older HP 4 in 1 printer. It
proved to be fine other than I could never get the FAX to work, but
that was because of my network provider and I was too lazy to pursue
the matter.
A few days ago I ran out of black ink, and I knew the color was low as
well, so off to Costco I go. The ink pkg there, one color and one BW
was about 48 bucks. A ripoff, we all know! Well, now it is packaged in
separate pkgs, either 3 BW or 3 Color, 102 bucks each Bull
Hockey!  I left and went to Walmart. There was the one of each for 43
bucks. So I picked one up, and then my eye saw an Epson printer, sorta
like my HP, but no FAX, significantly more compact, a better paper
path, 5 inks, and it was wireless Smart Print, so I could use my IPAD
with it :-)  52 bucks.  Done deal, I said, and grabbed one.


any super cheap inkjet is a loss-leader designed to sell you ink later on; if 
you get your color output elsewhere, i'd consider finding an older laser 
printer; they tend to cost much less to operate (and the ink doesn't dry up 
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Re: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice series of interesting images.
Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I stopped by for a quick visit to the Vintage Radio and Communications
 Museum of Connecticut near the Hartford airport on Thursday. Only had
 about an hour. An interesting place. Difficult for photography, as
 it's either harshly or dimly lit in spots. If I go back it'll be with
 a tripod, polarizer, and an extra 2 hours.

 I've liked old radios ever since I was 6 or 7 when my dad gave me a
 1920's Philco 3-band (2 SW and regular AM). I listened to it for hours
 with an old pair of hard Bakelite headphones. Still have it.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=564018

 As usual, maybe better with a double-click for a larger version.

 http://www.vrcmct.org/

 Tom C.

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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Prepare to have sore fingers for a while.
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't know if anybody here plays or not, but I've decided to stop
 putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
 guitar.

 After exercising my Google Fu, talking to a guitar-playing coworker
 and asking a couple of questions on the Acoustic Guitar Forum, I
 decided to get a Seagull S6 (original). If I bought new, I was going
 to go with Cedar but I tripped across a **gorgeous** 20th
 Anniversary edition that is Spruce and Maple with a high gloss finish
 (semi-gloss being the usual finish on a Seagull S6). They only made
 2000 of these, apparently and I got it for a LOT less than a new one.
 I'm always about bang-for-the-buck. It won't be in my hot little hands
 for a week or two yet when I get it from a friend, but I'm looking
 forward to trying to learn (Old Dog, New Tricks).

 I've already discovered the aforementioned forum and justinguitar.com
 (along with his YouTube channel:
 http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinSandercoe ) and I plan to start with
 his beginner's course and a book before possibly going to a local
 teacher for lessons.

 Anyway, any words of wisdom from The Collective who play would be most 
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Re: OT: Ain't Technology Great!

2012-12-22 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 2:54 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 any super cheap inkjet is a loss-leader designed to sell you ink later on;

I agree, but it seems like a failed marketing ploy. Does anyone ever
buy the replacement ink? They always seem to go for a new printer
instead.


 if you get your color output elsewhere, i'd consider finding an older laser
 printer; they tend to cost much less to operate (and the ink doesn't dry
 up when they've sat for a while)

I'll vouch for that. My 19 year-old HP 4M+ refuses to die. We feed it
recycled 3rd-party toner carts; about one every 5 years seems to
suffice.

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PESO: Agaton?

2012-12-22 Thread SV Hovland
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140053authkey=!AMDybc6_bISGRjE

Stig Vidar Hovland

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Re: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread Bruce Walker
I like it, Stig. The post-processing works for this and adds to the interest.

You should add a few more words into your messages though. Gmail has
sent your last few PESOs into the spam folder for me. A solitary URL
in an almost-empty message, especially one to a Microsoft service,
looks very suspicious to the anti-junk filters.


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RE: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread SV Hovland
Thanks.

Yes, I know this isn't spam filter friendly. I have already got some messages 
about this from members.

Question: Isn't it possible to white list everything from pdml@pdml.net?

SV

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Subject: Re: PESO: Shoes

I like it, Stig. The post-processing works for this and adds to the interest.

You should add a few more words into your messages though. Gmail has sent your 
last few PESOs into the spam folder for me. A solitary URL in an almost-empty 
message, especially one to a Microsoft service, looks very suspicious to the 
anti-junk filters.


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Re: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
This went to my Spam folder as well.

It is an effective image, BTW.
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 I like it, Stig. The post-processing works for this and adds to the interest.

 You should add a few more words into your messages though. Gmail has
 sent your last few PESOs into the spam folder for me. A solitary URL
 in an almost-empty message, especially one to a Microsoft service,
 looks very suspicious to the anti-junk filters.


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Re: PESO: Agaton?

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great expression on his face!
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RE: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread SV Hovland
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=2802754rd=1


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Subject: Re: PESO: Shoes

I like it, Stig. The post-processing works for this and adds to the interest.

You should add a few more words into your messages though. Gmail has sent your 
last few PESOs into the spam folder for me. A solitary URL in an almost-empty 
message, especially one to a Microsoft service, looks very suspicious to the 
anti-junk filters.


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Re: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread Bruce Walker
Heh! :) Already did that. There's a big yellow banner across all your
email warning:

* This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created.
_Edit Filters_


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 Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:36 PM
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 Subject: Re: PESO: Shoes

 I like it, Stig. The post-processing works for this and adds to the interest.

 You should add a few more words into your messages though. Gmail has sent 
 your last few PESOs into the spam folder for me. A solitary URL in an 
 almost-empty message, especially one to a Microsoft service, looks very 
 suspicious to the anti-junk filters.


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PESO: Look!

2012-12-22 Thread SV Hovland
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Re: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread Thomas Bohn
2012/12/22 SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org:

 Yes, I know this isn't spam filter friendly. I have already got some messages 
 about this from members.

I think the problem is your domain. Gmail can't verify it, so it goes
into the spam folder.

I don't know what that means though.

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-22 Thread Igor Roshchin

I would say that the younger generation is getting used to shop online more
and more. Even NYSE operations are becoming more and more electronic,
and the physical presence will soon disappear from NYSE.
I understand the preference of many PDMLers to play with the toys
locally, but I suspect the importance of the gadgets to be present
at the local store (especially if there aren't any available) maybe
a bit overrated.

When I bought my first Pentax (ZX-5n) back in 1997, 
I lived in Urbana, Illinois. 
After spending 1-2 hours in the only local photo camera store, trying 
N70 and N90, I decided that I couldn't afford N90, but ergonomics of N70
was bad for me. So, I purchased Pentax ZX5n after reading about its
manual knob-and-buttons- controls. I bought it from either Adorama or
BH, - unseen, as Pentax was not available locally.

(Two years ago I wrote about my relations with Pentax in this message to
PDML:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg528435.html )

Livining again in a small large-college town, I don't have access to
any reasonable brick-and-mortar camera store (I don't count the
recently disappeared Ritz camera or the still-present BestBuy as such).
I bought K-7, and just last month K-5 IIs  also unseen.
But when I was buying *istDS, I lived in San Diego, and I don't think I
went to a local store to see it before I bought it. Maybe I did, - but
it was not a decisive factor.

More over, while living in NYC, I've never made it to BH (although I
was frequently visiting Adorama that was closer, and where I was using
the photolab for printing photos.

So, are the physical stores helpful? Yes, - when I needed to figure out
which of 2-3 photo bags that I was looking at was batter for me, I
did that choice at the stores. 
But living in the town that has relatively few reasonable stores of any
kind, - I am so much used to get everything online (even diapers are
bought from Amazon, - via a scheduled monthly delivery), that it makes the
life much easier in many aspects.
(Except that I am behind on breaking down and recycling shipping boxes.)


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PESO: The Babe

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Another detail from a Christmas Card:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670439

Comments and criticisms ar appreciated.

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Re: OT: Ain't Technology Great!

2012-12-22 Thread Walter Hamler
Yes, you can choose from several paper types. I printed the Astronomy
Picture of the Day from today and did one at Glossy Photo Paper and
one at High Gloss Photo Paper using the Costco brand of Glossy Photo
Paper. Both came out identical.  The printer is the Model XP-300, btw.

Walt

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 Walt,
 Good to hear.  WalMart is close by.
 Does the Epson let you specify what paper you are using?
 My printer is so old I can't control for the paper I've got.
 Makes printing a real guessing game.
 Your's sounds like a good solution.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 Ever since I quit printing my own ink jet prints and started using
 Costco for RA prints, I have been using an older HP 4 in 1 printer. It
 proved to be fine other than I could never get the FAX to work, but
 that was because of my network provider and I was too lazy to pursue
 the matter.
 A few days ago I ran out of black ink, and I knew the color was low as
 well, so off to Costco I go. The ink pkg there, one color and one BW
 was about 48 bucks. A ripoff, we all know! Well, now it is packaged in
 separate pkgs, either 3 BW or 3 Color, 102 bucks each Bull
 Hockey!  I left and went to Walmart. There was the one of each for 43
 bucks. So I picked one up, and then my eye saw an Epson printer, sorta
 like my HP, but no FAX, significantly more compact, a better paper
 path, 5 inks, and it was wireless Smart Print, so I could use my IPAD
 with it :-)  52 bucks.  Done deal, I said, and grabbed one.

 Get home, set it up, and it was super easy and worked the first time.
 It prints from both IMac and IPAD without any hiccups. I am pleased.
 Yesterday the wife hands me and old 8x10 BW and says to scan it so I
 powered up the HP and went to the application folder to find the one I
 had always used. Thought I had it, double clicked, and it offered me a
 scan preview page for the Epson. Oh, what the heck, I says, I'll try
 it. Put the print on the platen, close the lid, click the mouse. Ten
 seconds later there is an icon on the desktop of the print. I open in
 PS and it is gorgeous. I mean perfect. Even no dust spots! I make a
 print, I put a copy on my FB page. Everything is great, the world is
 at peace. I am happy!!

 Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and Peace and Goodwill to all the
 PDML'ers out there !

 Walt

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-22 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:


I would say that the younger generation is getting used to shop online more
and more. Even NYSE operations are becoming more and more electronic,
and the physical presence will soon disappear from NYSE.
I understand the preference of many PDMLers to play with the toys
locally, but I suspect the importance of the gadgets to be present
at the local store (especially if there aren't any available) maybe
a bit overrated.



Not just the younger generation.

I bought the K-5 and Q both online without ever touching either  
beforehand.  Of course, I knew what I was getting from the various  
experiences posted here and on other sites.


I also just bought a new tripod online, although in that case I did  
look at a few tripods in camera stores before selecting the one I  
wanted.  This is one case where I think it's necessary to see the  
products in 'real', rather than 'virtual', life.



Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/






When I bought my first Pentax (ZX-5n) back in 1997,
I lived in Urbana, Illinois.
After spending 1-2 hours in the only local photo camera store, trying
N70 and N90, I decided that I couldn't afford N90, but ergonomics of N70
was bad for me. So, I purchased Pentax ZX5n after reading about its
manual knob-and-buttons- controls. I bought it from either Adorama or
BH, - unseen, as Pentax was not available locally.

(Two years ago I wrote about my relations with Pentax in this message to
PDML:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg528435.html )

Livining again in a small large-college town, I don't have access to
any reasonable brick-and-mortar camera store (I don't count the
recently disappeared Ritz camera or the still-present BestBuy as such).
I bought K-7, and just last month K-5 IIs  also unseen.
But when I was buying *istDS, I lived in San Diego, and I don't think I
went to a local store to see it before I bought it. Maybe I did, - but
it was not a decisive factor.

More over, while living in NYC, I've never made it to BH (although I
was frequently visiting Adorama that was closer, and where I was using
the photolab for printing photos.

So, are the physical stores helpful? Yes, - when I needed to figure out
which of 2-3 photo bags that I was looking at was batter for me, I
did that choice at the stores.
But living in the town that has relatively few reasonable stores of any
kind, - I am so much used to get everything online (even diapers are
bought from Amazon, - via a scheduled monthly delivery), that it makes the
life much easier in many aspects.
(Except that I am behind on breaking down and recycling shipping boxes.)


Igor





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Re: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
I've got the same problem,
so I made your address 'NOT SPAM'.
Let's see if it works.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:36 PM
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 Subject: Re: PESO: Shoes

 I like it, Stig. The post-processing works for this and adds to the interest.

 You should add a few more words into your messages though. Gmail has sent 
 your last few PESOs into the spam folder for me. A solitary URL in an 
 almost-empty message, especially one to a Microsoft service, looks very 
 suspicious to the anti-junk filters.


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Re: PESO: The Babe

2012-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan,
Nice card, but you gotta take Marnie's example to heart.
Go out and shoot some, Macros in Nature are everywhere
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Another detail from a Christmas Card:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670439

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Re: PESO: The Babe

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Too windy today.  Everything is moving too much for macros.  G
Dan Matyola
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 Dan,
 Nice card, but you gotta take Marnie's example to heart.
 Go out and shoot some, Macros in Nature are everywhere
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 Another detail from a Christmas Card:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670439

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OT GESO - Voigtlander Ultron 21mm

2012-12-22 Thread Derby Chang


I've been photographically slack lately, but no more, with this new toy, 
one of the few Voigtlander 21mm/1.8 to arrive in the country. The 
28mm/1.9 is one of my favourites, and I think the 21 will soon be up 
there with it.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12/21Ultron/index.html


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Re: PESO: Look!

2012-12-22 Thread Derby Chang



Love it. You are on a bit of a roll, Stig

D


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Re: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

2012-12-22 Thread Eactivist
Thanks, frank! Do you know how hard it is to FIND a cliche when you're  
driving around? Heh. Back when I started with film, way, way back in  2000-2001 
or something, I found this place and revisit it periodically. One of  these 
days I'll get the clouds and time of day JUST right. Though this is not a  
bad effort, I think. First time ever that horses were in the padlock.

And  thanks to Dan, Dave, Shark (?), Jack, Bob, Rick and Bruce.

Jack, I  actually darkened the clouds a bit for more weight at the top of 
the frame to  balance out the bottom. Different styles. ;-)

Rick, I probably do need to  show my photos larger, this one was only 700 
px wide, meant it to be at least  800 px wide. My trouble is I keep my laptop 
screen resolution at 1366 x 768,  probably lower than most of you do. 
Easier on older eyes. Maybe I'll do a poll  on screen resolution and pic size.
 
But 800 at least would have shown the horses better. 

Thanks  guys!  Marnie aka Doe  Now to print up the calendar. 

In a  message dated 12/22/2012 8:06:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Now ~that~ is a cliche, but it's such a  beautiful scene, so expertly 
captured by you that one can't help but be in awe  of the beauty.

Very well composed and rendered.

A worthy inclusion  for your calendar!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message  ---

From: eactiv...@aol.com
Sent: December 22, 2012 12/22/12
To:  pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Red Barn, Green Hill

Didn't have enough  decent photos from last two years for the calendar I am 
 
making for  friends, so I actually, {gasp!}, went out and took some 
pictures. 

I  have taken a lot of shots of this over the years, but not recently.   

I never get quite what I want when I go: time of day, and clouds,  but  
think this is not too bad. (Clouds could be a lot better, thinking  of 
cloning  
some in on lower right. Time of day, could have been a  little later, but  
okay.)

Anyway, I think you can see why I like  this as a   subject.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redbarn.html

Out   of time on the calendar, so this makes the cut.

Comments   welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)




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Re: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread Eactivist
Nice! Might be a little too tightly cropped for  me, but okay. Very 
atmospheric.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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RE: PESO: Look!

2012-12-22 Thread SV Hovland
Thanks. I hope I am not spamming everyone here with these e-mails 

SV

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Derby Chang

Love it. You are on a bit of a roll, Stig

D



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Re: Tattoo Pentax

2012-12-22 Thread Joseph McAllister
I'd marry Terug in an instant. She has good teeth. But she is wearing leopard 
print something or another, of which I am not at all fond.


On Dec 17, 2012, at 22:40 , Chris Mitchell wrote:

 A bit naff, but it's Pentax...
 
 http://www.tattoohelma.nl/tatoo/322.html
 
 Chris



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It seems that I need to stop my mind running off at the fingertips.
— Mike Wilson


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Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. Whatever happened to them.

2012-12-22 Thread Bipin Gupta
Hi PJ, yep I still have my Leica Film SLR. But Leicas are another ball
game. And today when I have retired, my finances do not allow me to
buy a Leica digital.

Hello Bob, deep down I have a desire to own a FF DSLR. And 85% of my
lenses are FF compatible. Reason why I have skipped the
K-5/K-5s/K-5IIs. Recently the K-5 body sold for just around $ 700
brand new. I know I am being foolish, as the K-5 is years ahead of my
aging K20D. Thanks any way for your sound and logical advice.

Tom Sir, I was looking at the photos downloaded from the EOS T3i on a
desk top with a 21 inch pro screen. On our European tour last fall, I
saw the Canon 60D LCD images only. But please believe me this camera
took awesome photos w/o flash, when I would struggle with my K20D +
the built-in flash. Something to do with the internal software /
processing engines on these Canons??

Larry, here is a marvelously cheap solution for an external Flash for
Pentax DSLRs. I get 98% keepers on my K20D with a $ 20 Quantaray
QB-6550U Flash Gun + a $ 10 QDA-P Flash Module (caution: do not buy
the QDA-PAF module). This converts the unit into the old style Auto
Thyristor Flash. Put your camera on Tv (Shutter Priority) mode and the
ISO to 100. Move the slider on the Flash Module to the far right Green
position. Set the other switch on the Module to Auto. Attach the flash
gun. You will note the shutter speed is set to 180th of a second and
the aperture to f 5.6 on the camera automatically by the flash. Just
fire away, and every photo will be exposed beautifully at any distance
from the subject. If you change the ISO to 200, the aperture will be
set automatically to f 8, ISO 400 to f 8 and so on.
Now here is another great advantage. Turn the flash head up to bounce
from the ceiling. Put the camera to Av mode. Note: the aperture is
fixed at f 5.6 by the flash gun and cannot be changed. Move the ISO to
400 and fire away to get perfectly exposed shots at any distance from
the subject.
Note: this same Flash is sold by many others -eg  Pro Master as
5550DX. You can also use the Quantaray QTB-9550U (Pro Master 5750DX)
Flash with the same module. Evil bay has all of them.
Regards. Bipin.
camp: Thornhill, Ontario, Canada  not the far away enchanting land.

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OT - Augie Wren's Christmas Story

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
A PDML tradition started many years ago by Shel (some of you remember Shel, 
right?).

I don't know that it gets posted every year, but it will this year. 

Enjoy:

 http://www.christmasmagazine.com/en/spirit/story26.asp

cheers,
frank 

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RE: PESO: The Babe

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Impressive!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: December 22, 2012 12/22/12
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Subject: PESO: The Babe

Another detail from a Christmas Card:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670439

Comments and criticisms ar appreciated.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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RE: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Nice!

I especially like the brightly coloured Motorolas. Very fifties! (I'm guessing)

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
Sent: December 22, 2012 12/22/12
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Subject: 3 PESO's - Vintage Radio

I stopped by for a quick visit to the Vintage Radio and Communications
Museum of Connecticut near the Hartford airport on Thursday. Only had
about an hour. An interesting place. Difficult for photography, as
it's either harshly or dimly lit in spots. If I go back it'll be with
a tripod, polarizer, and an extra 2 hours.

I've liked old radios ever since I was 6 or 7 when my dad gave me a
1920's Philco 3-band (2 SW and regular AM). I listened to it for hours
with an old pair of hard Bakelite headphones. Still have it.

http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=564018

As usual, maybe better with a double-click for a larger version.

http://www.vrcmct.org/

Tom C.

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OT: phone number change

2012-12-22 Thread Stan Halpin
Our house in Kansas City has sold, greatly diminishing our need for phone 
numbers local to that region. So we have new phones and numbers. 816-916- 
replaced by 989-941-
Please contact me off-listfor updated numbers if/when you want to keep your 
phone list up to date.

stan


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Re: OT - Augie Wren's Christmas Story

2012-12-22 Thread William Robb

On 22/12/2012 7:30 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

A PDML tradition started many years ago by Shel (some of you remember Shel, 
right?).


I miss Shel. I wish he'd come back. All is forgiven.


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Re: OT - Augie Wren's Christmas Story

2012-12-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for posting it, Bill. I too wish Shel would come back.

Paul
On Dec 22, 2012, at 8:55 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 22/12/2012 7:30 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 A PDML tradition started many years ago by Shel (some of you remember Shel, 
 right?).
 
 I miss Shel. I wish he'd come back. All is forgiven.
 
 
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Re: OT: Ain't Technology Great!

2012-12-22 Thread Stan Halpin
I agree as well. I have a 13-year-old HP Laserwriter 1012 that just keeps 
working. Much faster/better/cheaper than the 3-in-1 color inkjet.

stan

On Dec 22, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 2:54 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 any super cheap inkjet is a loss-leader designed to sell you ink later on;
 
 I agree, but it seems like a failed marketing ploy. Does anyone ever
 buy the replacement ink? They always seem to go for a new printer
 instead.
 
 
 if you get your color output elsewhere, i'd consider finding an older laser
 printer; they tend to cost much less to operate (and the ink doesn't dry
 up when they've sat for a while)
 
 I'll vouch for that. My 19 year-old HP 4M+ refuses to die. We feed it
 recycled 3rd-party toner carts; about one every 5 years seems to
 suffice.
 
 --
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Re: PESO: The Babe

2012-12-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Impressive!

 cheers,
 frank

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Sent: December 22, 2012 12/22/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: The Babe

 Another detail from a Christmas Card:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670439

 Comments and criticisms ar appreciated.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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RE: OT GESO - Voigtlander Ultron 21mm

2012-12-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Love the Christmas elves (or whatever they are).

Great set.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
Sent: December 22, 2012 12/22/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT GESO - Voigtlander Ultron 21mm


I've been photographically slack lately, but no more, with this new toy, 
one of the few Voigtlander 21mm/1.8 to arrive in the country. The 
28mm/1.9 is one of my favourites, and I think the 21 will soon be up 
there with it.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12/21Ultron/index.html


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RE: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy

Don't know if anybody here plays or not, but I've decided to stop
putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
guitar.

After exercising my Google Fu, talking to a guitar-playing coworker
and asking a couple of questions on the Acoustic Guitar Forum, I
decided to get a Seagull S6 (original). If I bought new, I was going
to go with Cedar but I tripped across a **gorgeous** 20th
Anniversary edition that is Spruce and Maple with a high gloss finish
(semi-gloss being the usual finish on a Seagull S6). They only made
2000 of these, apparently and I got it for a LOT less than a new one.
I'm always about bang-for-the-buck. It won't be in my hot little hands
for a week or two yet when I get it from a friend, but I'm looking
forward to trying to learn (Old Dog, New Tricks).

I've already discovered the aforementioned forum and justinguitar.com
(along with his YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinSandercoe ) and I plan to start with
his beginner's course and a book before possibly going to a local
teacher for lessons.

Anyway, any words of wisdom from The Collective who play would be most welcome.



I've been playing since 1965. I'm not sure how many guitars I have. Too 
many probably. I didn't intend to have a collection, I just bought the 
guitars I wanted to play when I could afford them.


Best advice I can give you is to find other people to play with. You'll 
enjoy it more and you'll stay engaged - inspired - motivated ...


I have two groups I try to meet up with every week. One group is mainly 
acoustic, and the other is more electric oriented.


There's lots  lots of tutorials on YouTube. Along with the tutorials, 
almost every song you want is on YouTube. I use a program called 
Audacity to capture the audio portion  save as MP3 files. Then I use 
Winamp set up to repeat the songs to practice along to.


And just about any song you want to learn, someone has posted 
chords/lyrics to a site somewhere. Often the chords are incomplete or 
not quite right, but the offer a starting point for figuring out how to 
really play the songs.


Bottom line, the way to get good at playing is to keep playing until you 
get good.


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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Stan Halpin

Also the lap [mountain] [Appalachian] dulcimer . . .
I can't read standard music notation, but the tabulature works!

stan

On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:12 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:


Spanish tab is also used for
banjo, mandolin, bass guitar, and probably a bunch of other instruments.


I believe any fretted string instrument can have music written in tab.

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RE: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

back in the mid-late 80s I bought a cheap guitar in a junk shop, a copy of
Juan Martin's book and taught my self to play flamenco very badly. After a
year I started to have lessons from an extremely good flamenco player - who
didn't think much of 'little Johnny Martin' - and stuck with him for 2 or 3
years, but I never overcame my ingrained bad habits, and I discovered that I
have no talent at all, and no ability to keep time (strict compas, as it's
called, is absolutely essential in flamenco). It came as something of a
relief when one day my guitar snapped in mid-rasgueado. I interpreted it as
a message from Aoede, and have never strummed a fandango since.

My advice to would-be guitarists is to take lessons and buy a soundproof
room.


You can make tolerably good music on guitar without having a lick of talent.
Nor do you need talent to enjoy the playing of it.

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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread Darren Addy
I'd like to offer thanks again for all of the great advice I've been
given. I don't know if I'm up to the challenge, but I'm very excited
to try. I'm promising myself not to get discourages for at least 6
months.
: )

Also:
Bottom line, the way to get good at playing is to keep playing until you get 
good.

MARK!

I got the official word from my friend today that the guitar is mine.
(Although my Colorado friend who made the purchase claims to be
jealous and thinks that perhaps this guitar will never cross the state
line into Nebraska.
:)

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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: C Brendemuehl

I play a bit.  Am not familiar with the seagull though.  Mine is a
Contreras.
First, enjoy.  And like chess, photography, etc., decide how much
time you have and what level of expertise you want to attain and go
from there.


They're a Canadian brand owned by Godin. The Godin brands include:
Art  Lutherie - budget entry level guitars
LaPatrie - classical guitars
Seagull - solid wood entry level to mid-range guitars
Simon and Patrick - mid-range steel string acoustics
Godin - mid-range to top-of-the-line guitars + electric guitars

I think the S6 is pretty much Seagull's entry level instrument. It's
not a budget guitar, but it should be good for a beginner. It's the kind
of guitar you won't need to replace as you get better.

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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: knarftheriault

Wonderful memories of you playing guitar at GFM, Doug. IIRC Tom V.V.
pulled out a guitar (one year at least) and you two did a bit of
picking and strumming together.

If there's a better place to hear that than in a forest on a
mountainside of the Blue Ridge Mountains I don't know it.


Yeah, as long as you ain't makin' a canoe trip down the Cahulawassee
River in Georgia.

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Re: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, new tricks?)

2012-12-22 Thread Darren Addy
I believe you are right John. The S6 is what I originally targeted for
exactly what you mentioned.
If I'm not mistaken, the Seagull 20th Anniversary model I purchased is
a solid wood version, with a high gloss finish. One poster said that
it was much more than a S6. I'm hopeful that is the case! I've also
heard that the maple/spruce is brighter than the regular S6, which
may or may not be a good thing. Some think it lacks on the bass end,
but that it sounds good when amplified. (That's a ways down the road
for me). We'll see!

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Boris #59 - Untitled

2012-12-22 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

So the world did not end two days ago just yet. We spent a very pleasant 
morning yesterday that finished by having lunch in our favorite meat 
restaurant.


Here is a picture from there...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/12/peso-2012-59-untitled.html

Please be brutal and honest though I cannot help but admit that I was 
influenced by work of Godfrey this time...


Boris

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DxOMark doesn't much like the DA 40mm f2.8 XS

2012-12-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Apparently it's not up to their standards. But then again almost none of 
Pentax's lens offerings are. It seems that they have a problem with 
traditional designs.


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Re: PESO: Shoes

2012-12-22 Thread Christine Aguila
Fun!  Great detail and texture and I like the color palette.  Cheers, Christine


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