PESO 2014 - 213 - GDG

2014-08-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The things you see happening over breakfast.

  https://flic.kr/p/oCwL8L

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. 

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Re: AESO 2014 - crossing - GDG

2014-08-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks for all the comments! 

On Aug 25, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> Great fun, Godfrey. I want to do a gif.  How do you do one?  Cheers, 
> Christine 

Creating animated GIFs isn't too difficult. This is a good cookbook approach to 
doing it with Photoshop CS5:
http://www.briandalessandro.com/blog/create-an-animated-gif-in-photoshop-cs5/

G

>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> Every so often, I like to try something a little different.
>> 
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/crossing3.gif


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Re: Silence

2014-08-25 Thread Boris Liberman

This is great news. I hope everything plays out well for Doug.

Keeping Californians in my thoughts too...

On 8/24/2014 6:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Boris:

PDML is down, but it should be up in a day or so.  Doug had his surgery 2 days 
ago and is doing great!  Mark Roberts is in the UK, but he’s probably going 
help with the troubleshooting from there.  Doug posted on Facebook today and 
said he’d work on it and that he’s doing great!

Hope you’re doing well.
Cheers, Christine



On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:


Is it just me or else?

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Re: Silence

2014-08-25 Thread Boris Liberman

This is doubly so, because these day I normally am in lurking mode...

On 8/24/2014 6:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Now you've done it, Boris. We were all enjoying a much needed quiet
time, and you have broken the trance.


On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

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Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller

Glad you like it Ann.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'



memorable :-)

i.e. - works for me.

ann

On 8/24/2014 17:47, Ken Waller wrote:

Taken last June in the U P of Michigan with a K3, 200mmf4.0 ED Macro,
1/25 @ f8, 800 ISO.

Your thoughts ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093

Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks Dan.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'



Lovely composition and color.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
Taken last June in the U P of Michigan with a K3, 200mmf4.0 ED Macro, 
1/25 @

f8, 800 ISO.

Your thoughts ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093

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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread steve harley

on 2014-08-25 17:34 Bruce Walker wrote

Thanks for that, Larry. My WTF? alarm went off when I noticed that the
dates he invented email around coincide with my using email on PWB
UNIX.


yeah i was using network email in 1978 too (mixed Unix & TOPS-20 
environment), and it had clearly been around long before that



And his claim that the Arpanet wasn't created to send messages? Christ
on a stick.


while any email of mine that escaped the university environment went by 
UUCP, others (grad students and profs) were transmitting via ARPAnet, and i 
would see such addresses on some emails forwarded to me




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Re: Geso: The Bridges of Madison County IA

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Yes - nice series - great that you had good light! I think I like the 
view from inside the bridge the best... I remember going through many 
covered bridges in the midwest in the 40's when I was little - we drove
around Iowa,Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin a lot.  Wish my mother had 
taken more photos of our surroundings rather than just me.


ann

On 8/25/2014 21:49, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Nice images.  I am familiar mostly with the covered bridges of New
England, although I have seen great ones in New Brunswick,
Pennsylvania, and, yes, even here in New Jersey.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:

A few weeks ago Dan M. mentioned he liked covered bridges. As I live
about 90 miles from the famous Bridges in book & movie and as I was
nearby in Des Moines  on another matter I slipped over and added to my
collection. One of these bridges appeared in the movie (although I confess I
did
not finish watching it). Only four of the six are here because I ran out
of light. Pentax cameras, comments always welcome.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157646359566430/

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Bridges-Of-Madison-County-IA/

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Re: AESO 2014 - crossing - GDG

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller
Nicely done!


-Original Message-
>From: Christine Aguila 
>Subject: Re: AESO 2014 - crossing - GDG
>
>Great fun, Godfrey. I want to do a gif.  How do you do one?  Cheers, Christine 
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> Every so often, I like to try something a little different.
>> 
>>  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/crossing3.gif
>> 
>> Comments always appreciated. 
>> 
>> Godfrey
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>> moment seizes us."



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Re: Geso Gone fishing

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I like this one a lot  in addition to the CHEESE shots

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2014-fishing/album/slides/Fishing-5748.html

Intersting seeing the flood-line under the lush greenery.
Fun picks of your friend showing off his catch too

ann

On 8/25/2014 21:55, Christine Aguila wrote:

Nice fish, Dave. I like the reflection shot of your good self as well. Cheers, 
Christine

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 25, 2014, at 8:39 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

from our boys weekend (catch and release) in Gilmour Ontario

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2014-fishing/album/index.html

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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit (oops!)

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

thanks Dan, yes he is adorable.
ann

On 8/25/2014 21:53, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Two intriguing images, Ann.  That is one cute dog.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

Oh dear - that isn't the right link!!
No wonder a couple of comments didnt make sense to me

These two snaps are the ones I meant to show - the one of the old building
reflection was one I did a while back.

Ok this is PLAY HERE
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-Psvs28V/A

and this is Doggonit

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A

ann


On 8/25/2014 18:15, Eric Weir wrote:



On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


(I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I disagreed
with some of you on why :-) )

More my sort of thing

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A



I like that one. Interesting pattern formed out of two different
architectures.


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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Philip Northeast
I have one too, compact size makes it great for carrying around, and the 
picture quality is very good


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On 26/08/2014 11:45 am, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Eric:

I'm a heavy DA 21 f3.2 shooter as well. Great lens.  It's my go-to lens for 
travel, walkabouts, street, and landscape (though I use the DA* 50-135mm f2.8 a 
lot for landscape).   You won't go wrong with this lens.

Cheers, Christine

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 25, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

Eric,

Good quality wide angle lenses always tend to be pricey. The DA21/3.2 Limited 
was my go-to wide when I was shooting with Pentax gear, can't recommend it 
enough, but it is fairly expensive. The other wide I liked a lot was the 
DA14/2.8.

I'd pick up one of the DA kit zooms as a temporary measure while I saved up for the 14, 
15, or 21 prime. The kit "normal" zooms all start at around 18 mm or so, which 
gives you some good options for wide.

Godfrey



They’re all out of my price range.


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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I second the 12-24. It’s an excellent lens. The DA 16-45/4 is also a very good 
lens optically, although the build quality leaves something to be desired. But 
it’s usually available at bargain prices. I used one for quite some time with 
considerable success before selling it for about $250. Here’s one on ebay: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PENTAX-smc-pentax-DA-ZOOM-16-45-mm-F-4-ED-AL-From-Japan-/221512275682?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item33932916e2
On Aug 25, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

> You really shouldn't count out the 12-24. Its a well regarded design
> that dxomark ranks as one of the best performing zooms on pentax. Some
> have claimed that it is actually sharper than the 15ltd, and across
> the frame that might be true. My copy was incredibly sharp for a zoom.
> Plus you get the nice range of 18-35 equivalent, which is actually a
> really great range and more useful IMO than 10-20. i know its way out
> of your range, but used copies can be found for 600+ if you look
> around. Its not exactly fast, but the T stop seems closer to F4 than a
> lot of my zooms, especially the DA 17-70. At 12mm, you can take some
> impressively long exposures handheld with SR. Also, don't count out
> the Samyang 14mm. Its fast and while not a perfect lens, is actually
> pretty sharp. I think the DA 14mm edges it out though from the tests
> I've seen. The DA has some gnarly field curvature though. Godrey is
> right. Wide angle and cheap do not go in the same sentence. Especially
> when you add the word quality. If you are hell bent on primes only,
> I'd definitely look at the 15ltd and 21ltd. You'll get the most use
> out of the 21ltd most likely depending on what you are shooting.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Christine Aguila  
> wrote:
>> Hi Eric:
>> 
>> I'm a heavy DA 21 f3.2 shooter as well. Great lens.  It's my go-to lens for 
>> travel, walkabouts, street, and landscape (though I use the DA* 50-135mm 
>> f2.8 a lot for landscape).   You won't go wrong with this lens.
>> 
>> Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Eric,
>>> 
>>> Good quality wide angle lenses always tend to be pricey. The DA21/3.2 
>>> Limited was my go-to wide when I was shooting with Pentax gear, can't 
>>> recommend it enough, but it is fairly expensive. The other wide I liked a 
>>> lot was the DA14/2.8.
>>> 
>>> I'd pick up one of the DA kit zooms as a temporary measure while I saved up 
>>> for the 14, 15, or 21 prime. The kit "normal" zooms all start at around 18 
>>> mm or so, which gives you some good options for wide.
>>> 
>>> Godfrey
>>> 
>>> 
> They’re all out of my price range.
>>> 
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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Zos Xavius
You really shouldn't count out the 12-24. Its a well regarded design
that dxomark ranks as one of the best performing zooms on pentax. Some
have claimed that it is actually sharper than the 15ltd, and across
the frame that might be true. My copy was incredibly sharp for a zoom.
Plus you get the nice range of 18-35 equivalent, which is actually a
really great range and more useful IMO than 10-20. i know its way out
of your range, but used copies can be found for 600+ if you look
around. Its not exactly fast, but the T stop seems closer to F4 than a
lot of my zooms, especially the DA 17-70. At 12mm, you can take some
impressively long exposures handheld with SR. Also, don't count out
the Samyang 14mm. Its fast and while not a perfect lens, is actually
pretty sharp. I think the DA 14mm edges it out though from the tests
I've seen. The DA has some gnarly field curvature though. Godrey is
right. Wide angle and cheap do not go in the same sentence. Especially
when you add the word quality. If you are hell bent on primes only,
I'd definitely look at the 15ltd and 21ltd. You'll get the most use
out of the 21ltd most likely depending on what you are shooting.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Hi Eric:
>
> I'm a heavy DA 21 f3.2 shooter as well. Great lens.  It's my go-to lens for 
> travel, walkabouts, street, and landscape (though I use the DA* 50-135mm f2.8 
> a lot for landscape).   You won't go wrong with this lens.
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Good quality wide angle lenses always tend to be pricey. The DA21/3.2 
>> Limited was my go-to wide when I was shooting with Pentax gear, can't 
>> recommend it enough, but it is fairly expensive. The other wide I liked a 
>> lot was the DA14/2.8.
>>
>> I'd pick up one of the DA kit zooms as a temporary measure while I saved up 
>> for the 14, 15, or 21 prime. The kit "normal" zooms all start at around 18 
>> mm or so, which gives you some good options for wide.
>>
>> Godfrey
>>
>>
 They’re all out of my price range.
>>
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Re: AESO 2014 - crossing - GDG

2014-08-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Great fun, Godfrey. I want to do a gif.  How do you do one?  Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Every so often, I like to try something a little different.
> 
>  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/crossing3.gif
> 
> Comments always appreciated. 
> 
> Godfrey
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> moment seizes us."
> 
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Re: Geso Gone fishing

2014-08-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Nice fish, Dave. I like the reflection shot of your good self as well. Cheers, 
Christine 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 25, 2014, at 8:39 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> from our boys weekend (catch and release) in Gilmour Ontario
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2014-fishing/album/index.html
> 
> -- 
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> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit (oops!)

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Two intriguing images, Ann.  That is one cute dog.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Oh dear - that isn't the right link!!
> No wonder a couple of comments didnt make sense to me
>
> These two snaps are the ones I meant to show - the one of the old building
> reflection was one I did a while back.
>
> Ok this is PLAY HERE
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-Psvs28V/A
>
> and this is Doggonit
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A
>
> ann
>
>
> On 8/25/2014 18:15, Eric Weir wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>>> (I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I disagreed
>>> with some of you on why :-) )
>>>
>>> More my sort of thing
>>>
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A
>>
>>
>> I like that one. Interesting pattern formed out of two different
>> architectures.
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Decatur, GA  USA
>> eew...@bellsouth.net
>>
>> "Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred."
>>
>> - Amos Oz
>>
>>
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Re: PESO: 10 Murray St

2014-08-25 Thread Christine Aguila
That's a pleasant urban view, Philip. Cheers, Christine 

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> On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:31 PM, Philip Northeast  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The concrete building (number 10) is due for demolition,  it does not
> realy fit withe the old sandstone buildings around it.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/14983338496/
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Geso: The Bridges of Madison County IA

2014-08-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Nice documentation of the bridges, Don!  Cheers, Christine 

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> On Aug 25, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> A few weeks ago Dan M. mentioned he liked covered bridges. As I live
> about 90 miles from the famous Bridges in book & movie and as I was
> nearby in Des Moines  on another matter I slipped over and added to my
> collection. One of these bridges appeared in the movie (although I confess I 
> did
> not finish watching it). Only four of the six are here because I ran out
> of light. Pentax cameras, comments always welcome.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157646359566430/
> 
> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Bridges-Of-Madison-County-IA/
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Re: Geso: The Bridges of Madison County IA

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice images.  I am familiar mostly with the covered bridges of New
England, although I have seen great ones in New Brunswick,
Pennsylvania, and, yes, even here in New Jersey.


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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> A few weeks ago Dan M. mentioned he liked covered bridges. As I live
> about 90 miles from the famous Bridges in book & movie and as I was
> nearby in Des Moines  on another matter I slipped over and added to my
> collection. One of these bridges appeared in the movie (although I confess I
> did
> not finish watching it). Only four of the six are here because I ran out
> of light. Pentax cameras, comments always welcome.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157646359566430/
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> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Bridges-Of-Madison-County-IA/
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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit

2014-08-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Ann!  The cat photo is cute too. Cheers, Christine 

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> On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Ok,  try these...
> (I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I disagreed 
> with some of you on why :-) )
> 
> More my sort of thing
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A
> 
> and a quick grab at iso 1600 while I was thrifting with a friend on Saturday.
> 
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A
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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Eric:

I'm a heavy DA 21 f3.2 shooter as well. Great lens.  It's my go-to lens for 
travel, walkabouts, street, and landscape (though I use the DA* 50-135mm f2.8 a 
lot for landscape).   You won't go wrong with this lens. 

Cheers, Christine 

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> On Aug 25, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> Good quality wide angle lenses always tend to be pricey. The DA21/3.2 Limited 
> was my go-to wide when I was shooting with Pentax gear, can't recommend it 
> enough, but it is fairly expensive. The other wide I liked a lot was the 
> DA14/2.8. 
> 
> I'd pick up one of the DA kit zooms as a temporary measure while I saved up 
> for the 14, 15, or 21 prime. The kit "normal" zooms all start at around 18 mm 
> or so, which gives you some good options for wide. 
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
>>> They’re all out of my price range.
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Re: Paris through Pentax 67 viewfinder

2014-08-25 Thread Zos Xavius
As badly as I want a 6x7, the thought of buying film and having it
developed is a bit discouraging. There's too much dust here to
contemplate hanging rolls to dry. If I had more disposable income I
would be shooting film a lot more. I'm almost afraid to buy more rolls
because it becomes kind of addicting.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 25/08/2014 6:57 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> On 8/25/2014 6:11 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>
>>> On 25/08/2014 3:19 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

 This was posted on FB. That viewfinder sure looks great!


 http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/08/25/see-paris-gorgeous-pentax-67-viewfinder


>>>
>>> By coincidence, I could make someone who wants to view the world
>>> through a 6x7 viewfinder very happy.
>>> But alas, it seems no one wants to be happy.
>>>
>>> bill
>>>
>> I'm sorry but I can't afford to be happy.
>>
> You would be surprised at how inexpensively this sort of happiness can be
> had for.
>
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Re: Paris through Pentax 67 viewfinder

2014-08-25 Thread Mark C

On 8/25/2014 5:19 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

This was posted on FB. That viewfinder sure looks great!

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/08/25/see-paris-gorgeous-pentax-67-viewfinder


Cool - the original Live View mode! (No focus peaking though...)

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Re: Paris through Pentax 67 viewfinder

2014-08-25 Thread Bill

On 25/08/2014 6:57 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 8/25/2014 6:11 PM, Bill wrote:

On 25/08/2014 3:19 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

This was posted on FB. That viewfinder sure looks great!

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/08/25/see-paris-gorgeous-pentax-67-viewfinder




By coincidence, I could make someone who wants to view the world
through a 6x7 viewfinder very happy.
But alas, it seems no one wants to be happy.

bill


I'm sorry but I can't afford to be happy.

You would be surprised at how inexpensively this sort of happiness can 
be had for.


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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Eric,

Good quality wide angle lenses always tend to be pricey. The DA21/3.2 Limited 
was my go-to wide when I was shooting with Pentax gear, can't recommend it 
enough, but it is fairly expensive. The other wide I liked a lot was the 
DA14/2.8. 

I'd pick up one of the DA kit zooms as a temporary measure while I saved up for 
the 14, 15, or 21 prime. The kit "normal" zooms all start at around 18 mm or 
so, which gives you some good options for wide. 

Godfrey


>> They’re all out of my price range.

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Re: Paris through Pentax 67 viewfinder

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling

On 8/25/2014 6:11 PM, Bill wrote:

On 25/08/2014 3:19 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

This was posted on FB. That viewfinder sure looks great!

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/08/25/see-paris-gorgeous-pentax-67-viewfinder 





By coincidence, I could make someone who wants to view the world 
through a 6x7 viewfinder very happy.

But alas, it seems no one wants to be happy.

bill


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Re: PDML approval process

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling

On 8/25/2014 2:29 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:35 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:

Must be pretty low standards, after all I'm here, hell they even let in
Bill...

you forgot me


We try not to mention you, Frank or Cotty, until the new member is truly 
hooked.




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On 8/24/2014 5:36 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

There's an approval process? :)

That's right!  Despite all evidence to the contrary, we have standards!
:)

I'm reminded of Groucho Marx's famous quote: "I don't want to belong
to any club that will accept me as a member."



On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Darren Addy 
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I know we have at least ONE new member awaiting the approval process.
Hopefully that won't be a long wait.

Good to hear that Doug came through will colors flying. Or is it flying
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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling
I know you're not adverse to manual focusing so if you're looking for a 
24mm on the cheap that's pretty good optically, well actually very good 
optically you might want to try to find a Vivitar 24mm f2.8.  I think 
the identical lens from Tokina was sold in Vivitar livery in an M42 
screw mount, K mount Ka mount and as part of the TX interchangeable 
mount systems.  The TX mount version will be K mount only as the TX 
lenses were discontinued before the introduction of the A mount by 
Pentax.  Sadly I don't have one of them anymore as I was able to get an 
SMCP-A 24mm f2.8 and a SMCP version as well, so the Vivitar was really 
really redundant.


A bit more prone to flair that an actual SMC lens but using a lens hood 
designed for a 35mm focal length would work fine on an APS-C camera.


There was also a Vivitar f2.0 24mm made by Kiron, that is M42 or K mount 
only for Pentax users AFAIK but it's supposed to be a cult classic, 
which may or may not be reflected in the price, if you can find one.




On 8/25/2014 6:12 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:


If you don't mind a little more size and weight, the new Sigma 18-35mm
f/1.8 looks like it might be a good replacement for wide primes in
terms of image quality and speed (actually it's faster than any primes
I know of in the shorter end of its range).  It's not cheap but
neither are those lenses on KEH.

Thanks, Bryan. They’re all out of my price range.

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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Bruce - please look at my dos Pesos with the Oops!

Glad you like this one, but it isn't what i meant to show..
and looks like you skipped over the second photo

ann

On 8/25/2014 19:14, Bruce Walker wrote:

I like that one muchly, Ann. Composition is great. I would, however,
prefer increased contrast (midtones?) in the finish.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

Ok,  try these...
(I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I disagreed
with some of you on why :-) )

More my sort of thing
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A

and a quick grab at iso 1600 while I was thrifting with a friend on
Saturday.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A

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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit (oops!)

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Oh dear - that isn't the right link!!
No wonder a couple of comments didnt make sense to me

These two snaps are the ones I meant to show - the one of the old 
building reflection was one I did a while back.


Ok this is PLAY HERE
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-Psvs28V/A

and this is Doggonit

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A

ann


On 8/25/2014 18:15, Eric Weir wrote:


On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


(I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I disagreed with 
some of you on why :-) )

More my sort of thing
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A


I like that one. Interesting pattern formed out of two different architectures.

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Re: OT: British Humour

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller
Its not the structures that are the issues - it's the ass holes that occupy 
them !


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bill" 

Subject: Re: OT: British Humour



On 25/08/2014 2:57 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/08/25/british-embassy-apologizes-for-tweet-commemorating-the-burning-the-white-house-but-not-for-the-actual-burning-of-the-white-house/?wpisrc=nl_pmpol&wpmm=1

The way politics is running in the USA these days, we may have to come 
down there and burn your White House down again to smarten you guys up a 
bit. :)


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Re: The Bridges of Madison County IA

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller

Nice captures. Glad you had some nice clouds to add to the images.

We have a few covered bridges in Michigan which I shot a few years ago.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Don Guthrie" 

Subject: Geso: The Bridges of Madison County IA



A few weeks ago Dan M. mentioned he liked covered bridges. As I live
about 90 miles from the famous Bridges in book & movie and as I was
nearby in Des Moines  on another matter I slipped over and added to my
collection. One of these bridges appeared in the movie (although I 
confess I did

not finish watching it). Only four of the six are here because I ran out
of light. Pentax cameras, comments always welcome.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157646359566430/

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Bridges-Of-Madison-County-IA/



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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks for that, Larry. My WTF? alarm went off when I noticed that the
dates he invented email around coincide with my using email on PWB
UNIX.

And his claim that the Arpanet wasn't created to send messages? Christ
on a stick.

What he does seem to have perfected -- though not invented -- is
self-aggrandisement of epic proportions.


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Another good email about Ayyaduri in particular:
> http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2012/05/shiva-ayyaduri-email-us-postal-service/
>
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> Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>>>
>>> This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds
>>> here, I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.
>>
>>
>> It turns out he invented an email system, and copyrighted the name,
>> however email goes back further than that:
>> http://www.ir.bbn.com/~craig/email.pdf
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

And I was thinking of an author... ;-)
back in the day when I actually imbibed - I did love Dos XX

ann

On 8/25/2014 19:22, John wrote:

I got to get my eyes checked again or something. I see "Dos Pesos" and
I'm thinking Mexican beer.

On 8/25/2014 5:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Ok,  try these...
(I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I
disagreed with some of you on why :-) )

More my sort of thing
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A



and a quick grab at iso 1600 while I was thrifting with a friend on
Saturday.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A



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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit

2014-08-25 Thread John
I got to get my eyes checked again or something. I see "Dos Pesos" and 
I'm thinking Mexican beer.


On 8/25/2014 5:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Ok,  try these...
(I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I
disagreed with some of you on why :-) )

More my sort of thing
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A


and a quick grab at iso 1600 while I was thrifting with a friend on
Saturday.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A


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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread John

I feel about it more or less how WC Fields felt about Philadelphia.

On 8/25/2014 1:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

EVERYTHING good comes out of New Jersey:

Among millions of people and products: the electric light, movies,
photographs and all the other Edison creations; baseball, college
football; Joyce Kilmer,  the steel suspension bridge;  the Boardwalk,
Pork Roll, Tomato Pies, Salt Water Taffy, Buzz Aldrin, Jack Nicholson,
Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi,  Queen Latifa, Shaq, Arron Burr, Philip
Roth, Whitney Houston, Dionne Warwick, Count Basie, Eddie Money, Frank
Sinatra, Franky Valli, Jack Nicholson, Kevin Spacey, Sandra Dee,
Connie Francis, Lou Costello, Ernie Kovacs, Danny DeVito, Meryl
Streep, Joe Theisman, Franco Harris, Bruce Willis, Joe Pesci, Joe
Oiscopo, Tony Soprano, the sharks that inspired Jaws, Anne Hathaway,
Johm Travolta, Charles Adams, Grover Cleveland, John Basilone, Paul
Robeson, and most of all -- Derek Jeter.

There are 2 kinds of people:  those from New Jersey, and those who
would like to be.


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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

And they say nothing good ever came out of New Jersey   (;+>

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- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola"

Subject: Re: OT: EMAIL



Extremely interesting;  thanks for sharing, John.

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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:56 AM, John  wrote:


This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds
here,
I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html

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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit

2014-08-25 Thread Bruce Walker
I like that one muchly, Ann. Composition is great. I would, however,
prefer increased contrast (midtones?) in the finish.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Ok,  try these...
> (I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I disagreed
> with some of you on why :-) )
>
> More my sort of thing
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A
>
> and a quick grab at iso 1600 while I was thrifting with a friend on
> Saturday.
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A
>
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Re: PDML approval process

2014-08-25 Thread John

On 8/25/2014 2:29 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:35 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:

Must be pretty low standards, after all I'm here, hell they even let in
Bill...


you forgot me

Dave


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RE: OT: Some photographers will go to any heights to get an image

2014-08-25 Thread John Coyle
Can't watch those videos for more than few seconds before the vertigo kicks in!

John Coyle
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Quite literally:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLDYtH1RH-U

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> http://twistedsifter.com/videos/scariest-selfie-ever/
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Re: I feel sorry for your children

2014-08-25 Thread John

Had to deal with shit like that when I was running the mini-lab.

Had a woman come in with one of those disposable cameras. The film had 
two toddlers in diapers playing in the sprinkler & a wading pool. The 
inevitable result of toddlers in water-logged diapers happened before 
she got to the end of the roll. Nothing pornographic, just two kids 
splashing in a plastic blow up pool where they've lost their diapers in 
the last three or four frames.


But one of my nutcase co-workers got all upset & went to store 
management when I told her not to call the police on the woman.


On 8/25/2014 12:15 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

There are bluenoses everywhere.  Naked chile photos are a tradition that
goes back to the Victorian era. The extreme politically correct and the
the over the top religious of a number of religions will find the naked
photos objectionable, and in some jurisdictions prosecutable.  The
photos of the little girl are not pornographic, but they aren't anything
I'd show. They look more like snapshots designed to embarrass her in
front of future dates.

On 8/24/2014 6:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Wyatt Neumann is a photographer and a father. In 2014 he took his
two-year-old daughter Stella on a cross-country road trip,
photographing their journey along the way. Neumann captured sunsets
and cornfields and, of course, Stella, often donning one of most
two-year-old girls' two favorite ensembles: a princess dress and
nothing at all.

In the middle of the trip, what the Safari Gallery describes as "a
hyper puritanical, neo-conservative group" launched a cyber-attack on
Neumann's images, specifically those of Stella. Calling the images
"perverse," "sick" and "pornographic," members of the group attempted
to remove all traces of them from the web. They successfully prompted
Facebook and Instagram to shut down his accounts, and they criticized
his artist website as well. While Neumann claims he was open to others
expressing their opinions about his work, the "forced censorship" went
too far.

And so on.  Text and some pictures at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/21/wyatt-neumann_n_5683243.html






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Re: OT: Some photographers will go to any heights to get an image

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 25, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> http://twistedsifter.com/videos/scariest-selfie-ever/

Shit!

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Re: Geso: The Bridges of Madison County IA

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:

> A few weeks ago Dan M. mentioned he liked covered bridges. As I live
> about 90 miles from the famous Bridges in book & movie and as I was
> nearby in Des Moines  on another matter I slipped over and added to my
> collection. One of these bridges appeared in the movie (although I confess I 
> did
> not finish watching it). Only four of the six are here because I ran out
> of light. Pentax cameras, comments always welcome.

I didn’t look carefully earlier today. I thought they were all shots of one 
bridge. The design does look pretty similar, if not identical.

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September PUG - A Gentle Nudge...

2014-08-25 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

Just a gentle reminder...

The September theme is 'Random Exhibition Title Generator' and it's  
based around the following website:


http://www.mit.edu/~ruchill/lazycurator.html

If you go there and hit the 'Curate Me' button, you will be presented  
with a suggested title for an artistic exhibition in the garbled  
language beloved by Exhibition curators (apologies if that includes  
anyone here - no offence intended...)


The idea is to hit the 'Curate Me' button a number of times until you  
find a title that fits an image you can make (or have buried in your  
archives).  We have 2 submissions so far.


As usual submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

I've modified the submission form slightly - you must include the  
generated exhibition title in your submission and (optional) you can  
describe your photo in art-speak - might I suggest the Arty Bollocks  
Generator?:


http://www.artybollocks.com/

Other Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
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* Nominal closing date: 30 September.

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Re: Paris through Pentax 67 viewfinder

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Attila Boros  wrote:

> This was posted on FB. That viewfinder sure looks great!
> 
> http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/08/25/see-paris-gorgeous-pentax-67-viewfinder

Cool.

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Re: Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> (I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I disagreed 
> with some of you on why :-) )
> 
> More my sort of thing
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A

I like that one. Interesting pattern formed out of two different architectures.

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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:

> If you don't mind a little more size and weight, the new Sigma 18-35mm
> f/1.8 looks like it might be a good replacement for wide primes in
> terms of image quality and speed (actually it's faster than any primes
> I know of in the shorter end of its range).  It's not cheap but
> neither are those lenses on KEH.

Thanks, Bryan. They’re all out of my price range.

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Re: OT: British Humour

2014-08-25 Thread Bill

On 25/08/2014 2:57 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/08/25/british-embassy-apologizes-for-tweet-commemorating-the-burning-the-white-house-but-not-for-the-actual-burning-of-the-white-house/?wpisrc=nl_pmpol&wpmm=1

The way politics is running in the USA these days, we may have to come 
down there and burn your White House down again to smarten you guys up a 
bit. :)


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Re: Paris through Pentax 67 viewfinder

2014-08-25 Thread Bill

On 25/08/2014 3:19 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

This was posted on FB. That viewfinder sure looks great!

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/08/25/see-paris-gorgeous-pentax-67-viewfinder



By coincidence, I could make someone who wants to view the world through 
a 6x7 viewfinder very happy.

But alas, it seems no one wants to be happy.

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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Bryan Jacoby
If you don't mind a little more size and weight, the new Sigma 18-35mm
f/1.8 looks like it might be a good replacement for wide primes in
terms of image quality and speed (actually it's faster than any primes
I know of in the shorter end of its range).  It's not cheap but
neither are those lenses on KEH.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 25/08/2014 8:57 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Bill 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> primarily casual amateurs who were buying zoom lenses, and the 15,
>>> 20 and 24 just didn't sell in great numbers. The A15/3.5 is also
>>> rather a horse (I have one that is in absolutely cherry condition).
>>> If you want something that wide, you would be better to get the
>>> 15/4 Limited, or buy a Fuji and pick up their 14/2.8.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Bill. I want something a little wider than the 28 and fast. I
>> find myself in a lot of low-light situations. Contrary to my original
>> post, I might have to go for one of those shorter a’s. Just not right
>> now.
>>
>
> If you want a 21/3.2 LTD, I could probably be coaxed into parting with mine.
> I rarely use it, and when I want something that wide I tend now to reach for
> my Fuji and the 23/1.4.
> email me off list if you are interested.
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Dos Pesos : Play Here, doggonit

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ok,  try these...
(I'm not totally thrilled with the glass building either, but I 
disagreed with some of you on why :-) )


More my sort of thing
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/i-vbhDVJW/A

and a quick grab at iso 1600 while I was thrifting with a friend on 
Saturday.


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-jBhhbbj/A

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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Larry Colen

Another good email about Ayyaduri in particular:
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2012/05/shiva-ayyaduri-email-us-postal-service/

Larry Colen wrote:



John wrote:

This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds
here, I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.


It turns out he invented an email system, and copyrighted the name,
however email goes back further than that:
http://www.ir.bbn.com/~craig/email.pdf



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html







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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Larry Colen



John wrote:

This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds
here, I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.


It turns out he invented an email system, and copyrighted the name, 
however email goes back further than that:

http://www.ir.bbn.com/~craig/email.pdf



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html




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Paris through Pentax 67 viewfinder

2014-08-25 Thread Attila Boros
This was posted on FB. That viewfinder sure looks great!

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/08/25/see-paris-gorgeous-pentax-67-viewfinder

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Geso: The Bridges of Madison County IA

2014-08-25 Thread Don Guthrie

A few weeks ago Dan M. mentioned he liked covered bridges. As I live
about 90 miles from the famous Bridges in book & movie and as I was
nearby in Des Moines  on another matter I slipped over and added to my
collection. One of these bridges appeared in the movie (although I 
confess I did

not finish watching it). Only four of the six are here because I ran out
of light. Pentax cameras, comments always welcome.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157646359566430/

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Bridges-Of-Madison-County-IA/

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OT: British Humour

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/08/25/british-embassy-apologizes-for-tweet-commemorating-the-burning-the-white-house-but-not-for-the-actual-burning-of-the-white-house/?wpisrc=nl_pmpol&wpmm=1

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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller
Hey Dan, I agree good things come out of New Jersey - I was born and raised 
in Bayonne and attended college in New Jersey.  
I think the rap on the state is mostly by those who haven't seen much of the 
state and by comics looking for some cheap laughs.


I don't know if I'd state EVERYTHING good comes out of New Jersey - what's 
left behind?


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: OT: EMAIL



EVERYTHING good comes out of New Jersey:

Among millions of people and products: the electric light, movies,
photographs and all the other Edison creations; baseball, college
football; Joyce Kilmer,  the steel suspension bridge;  the Boardwalk,
Pork Roll, Tomato Pies, Salt Water Taffy, Buzz Aldrin, Jack Nicholson,
Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi,  Queen Latifa, Shaq, Arron Burr, Philip
Roth, Whitney Houston, Dionne Warwick, Count Basie, Eddie Money, Frank
Sinatra, Franky Valli, Jack Nicholson, Kevin Spacey, Sandra Dee,
Connie Francis, Lou Costello, Ernie Kovacs, Danny DeVito, Meryl
Streep, Joe Theisman, Franco Harris, Bruce Willis, Joe Pesci, Joe
Oiscopo, Tony Soprano, the sharks that inspired Jaws, Anne Hathaway,
Johm Travolta, Charles Adams, Grover Cleveland, John Basilone, Paul
Robeson, and most of all -- Derek Jeter.

There are 2 kinds of people:  those from New Jersey, and those who
would like to be.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

And they say nothing good ever came out of New Jersey   (;+>

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola"

Subject: Re: OT: EMAIL



Extremely interesting;  thanks for sharing, John.

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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:56 AM, John  wrote:


This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds
here,
I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html

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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> You know what the Fusco Brothers said about New Jersey?

The Fusco Brothers?  Those landscape guys up in Chatham?  They make
all their money in Jersey.  

We have been insulted by the best, and take it in good humor:

"there's an intelligence to the universe, with the exception of
certain parts of New Jersey. "
Woody Allen, Sleepers.

Jersey is a terrible place!  Don't even think about coming here.  You
wouldn't like it, and there are too many of us already.



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Re: PDML approval process

2014-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:35 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> Must be pretty low standards, after all I'm here, hell they even let in
> Bill...

you forgot me

Dave
>
>
> On 8/24/2014 5:36 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
>>>
>>> There's an approval process? :)
>>
>> That's right!  Despite all evidence to the contrary, we have standards!
>> :)
>>
>> I'm reminded of Groucho Marx's famous quote: "I don't want to belong
>> to any club that will accept me as a member."
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Darren Addy 
>>> wrote:

 I know we have at least ONE new member awaiting the approval process.
 Hopefully that won't be a long wait.

 Good to hear that Doug came through will colors flying. Or is it flying
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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Larry Colen



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

EVERYTHING good comes out of New Jersey:


You know what the Fusco Brothers said about New Jersey?

If you don't like the weather, just wait a few minutes and you'll have 
something else you don't like about New Jersey.




Among millions of people and products: the electric light, movies,
photographs and all the other Edison creations; baseball, college
football; Joyce Kilmer,  the steel suspension bridge;  the Boardwalk,
Pork Roll, Tomato Pies, Salt Water Taffy, Buzz Aldrin, Jack Nicholson,
Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi,  Queen Latifa, Shaq, Arron Burr, Philip
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Sinatra, Franky Valli, Jack Nicholson, Kevin Spacey, Sandra Dee,
Connie Francis, Lou Costello, Ernie Kovacs, Danny DeVito, Meryl
Streep, Joe Theisman, Franco Harris, Bruce Willis, Joe Pesci, Joe
Oiscopo, Tony Soprano, the sharks that inspired Jaws, Anne Hathaway,
Johm Travolta, Charles Adams, Grover Cleveland, John Basilone, Paul
Robeson, and most of all -- Derek Jeter.

There are 2 kinds of people:  those from New Jersey, and those who
would like to be.


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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

And they say nothing good ever came out of New Jersey   (;+>

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola"

Subject: Re: OT: EMAIL



Extremely interesting;  thanks for sharing, John.

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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:56 AM, John  wrote:

This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds
here,
I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html

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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
EVERYTHING good comes out of New Jersey:

Among millions of people and products: the electric light, movies,
photographs and all the other Edison creations; baseball, college
football; Joyce Kilmer,  the steel suspension bridge;  the Boardwalk,
Pork Roll, Tomato Pies, Salt Water Taffy, Buzz Aldrin, Jack Nicholson,
Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi,  Queen Latifa, Shaq, Arron Burr, Philip
Roth, Whitney Houston, Dionne Warwick, Count Basie, Eddie Money, Frank
Sinatra, Franky Valli, Jack Nicholson, Kevin Spacey, Sandra Dee,
Connie Francis, Lou Costello, Ernie Kovacs, Danny DeVito, Meryl
Streep, Joe Theisman, Franco Harris, Bruce Willis, Joe Pesci, Joe
Oiscopo, Tony Soprano, the sharks that inspired Jaws, Anne Hathaway,
Johm Travolta, Charles Adams, Grover Cleveland, John Basilone, Paul
Robeson, and most of all -- Derek Jeter.

There are 2 kinds of people:  those from New Jersey, and those who
would like to be.


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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> And they say nothing good ever came out of New Jersey   (;+>
>
> Kenneth Waller
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> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
> 
> Subject: Re: OT: EMAIL
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>> Extremely interesting;  thanks for sharing, John.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:56 AM, John  wrote:
>>>
>>> This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds
>>> here,
>>> I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html
>>>
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Re: Redbilled Woodhoopoe

2014-08-25 Thread Alan C
Thanks Stan & others who looked. Yes, I agree but I don't yet have a 
suitable flash.


Alan C

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Nice shot, interesting bird. I like the lines of the bird shadowed by the 
lines in the leaf behind.
Maybe add a touch of fill-flash if you get this opportunity again… something 
to add visibility & sparkle to the eye.


stan

On Aug 22, 2014, at 5:35 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Flocks of these are frequent visitors to our garden. This one is raiding a 
weaver's nest. The Afrikaans common name is "Kakelaar" because of the 
cackling sound they make - quite raucous if a large flock is working it's 
way through the foliage. They are mainly insectivorous but eat nestlings & 
lizards too.


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Re: WHITE BAUHINIA

2014-08-25 Thread Alan C
Tanks, Dan. There are a lot of Bauhinia species worldwide. Many are only 
shrubs. The purple flowered ones are more spectacular.


Alan C

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I am not familiar with that tree.  Your flower image is quite pleasing.

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On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Alan C  wrote:

The white Bauhinia on our western boundary is putting on a good show this
this year. It is actually a Highveld tree but has become popular with
gardeners in all areas.

The tree:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/14810754989/in/photostream/lightbox/

Close up of a flower:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/14974470746/in/photostream/lightbox/

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Re: OT: Some photographers will go to any heights to get an image

2014-08-25 Thread Attila Boros
Quite literally:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLDYtH1RH-U

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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Jack Davis
Good thing Al Gore invented the internet, huh? 8>)

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Subject: Re: OT: EMAIL

Extremely interesting;  thanks for sharing, John.

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> This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds here,
> I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html
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Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I want to thank him, too
Now that he has revealed his speciality , however, he may regret it..
I'll be pestering him for specifics I've forgotten (hehe) or never knew
when I get to my next horticultural calendar :-)  Alastair, be warned!

Ann

On 8/25/2014 12:28, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks so much for commenting and pointing out the correct name Alastair.

I went back to my 'Wildflowers of Michigan' book and looked up Geranium
maculatum - the leaf is a dead give away.

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- Original Message - From: "Alastair Robertson"

Subject: Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'



Lovely shot and I really like the even lighting across the image.
Being a plant ecologist, I need to point out that these aren't
forget-me-not - they are some sort of cranesbill - probably Geranium
maculatum

Alastair

On 25 August 2014 09:54, Attila Boros  wrote:

Nice trio. At first I had the same reaction as Bruce, but liked it
after viewing the larger version:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093&size=lg
Is it just me, or the greens are really darker in the large version?

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Ken Waller 
wrote:

Taken last June in the U P of Michigan with a K3, 200mmf4.0 ED
Macro, 1/25 @
f8, 800 ISO.

Your thoughts ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093

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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller

And they say nothing good ever came out of New Jersey   (;+>

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: OT: EMAIL



Extremely interesting;  thanks for sharing, John.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:56 AM, John  wrote:
This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds 
here,

I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html

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Re: OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Extremely interesting;  thanks for sharing, John.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:56 AM, John  wrote:
> This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds here,
> I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html
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OT: Some photographers will go to any heights to get an image

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://twistedsifter.com/videos/scariest-selfie-ever/
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Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks for commenting Bruce, in retro spec, I should have used a diffuser to 
even out the lighting.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Walker" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'



Beautiful specimens of those flowers, Ken. My one issue is I find the
background distractingly bright for their delicate tones.


On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
Taken last June in the U P of Michigan with a K3, 200mmf4.0 ED Macro, 
1/25 @

f8, 800 ISO.

Your thoughts ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093

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Re: PDML approval process

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling
Must be pretty low standards, after all I'm here, hell they even let in 
Bill...


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On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

There's an approval process? :)

That's right!  Despite all evidence to the contrary, we have standards!
:)

I'm reminded of Groucho Marx's famous quote: "I don't want to belong
to any club that will accept me as a member."



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I know we have at least ONE new member awaiting the approval process.
Hopefully that won't be a long wait.

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Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks so much for commenting and pointing out the correct name Alastair.

I went back to my 'Wildflowers of Michigan' book and looked up Geranium 
maculatum - the leaf is a dead give away.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Alastair Robertson" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'



Lovely shot and I really like the even lighting across the image.
Being a plant ecologist, I need to point out that these aren't
forget-me-not - they are some sort of cranesbill - probably Geranium
maculatum

Alastair

On 25 August 2014 09:54, Attila Boros  wrote:

Nice trio. At first I had the same reaction as Bruce, but liked it
after viewing the larger version:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093&size=lg
Is it just me, or the greens are really darker in the large version?

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wrote:
Taken last June in the U P of Michigan with a K3, 200mmf4.0 ED Macro, 
1/25 @

f8, 800 ISO.

Your thoughts ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093

Kenneth Waller
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Re: I feel sorry for your children

2014-08-25 Thread Bill

On 25/08/2014 10:17 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 8/25/2014 9:25 AM, Bill wrote:

On 24/08/2014 11:45 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Bill wrote:

I always wonder exactly what is going on in the heads of people who
sexualize very young children and then pretend someone else is doing
something wrong.
Neumann is an idiot if he didn't expect some mentally unstable portion
of the population of the USA to react just as they did , the people
who are seeing his daughter as an object of sexuality are sick minded,
fucked up whack jobs.


Kind of like the people that don't expect people to get upset when they
let their children go play at the park unsupervised.

Whatever you think about Neumann, what some people would see as a cute
"kid taking a bath" photo, other people see as child pornography. As
photographers, we need to be aware of other people pushing their agendas
on other people.  A few months ago, someone got upset at one of my
pictures that she described as pornographic.  It was a fully clothed
woman, holding her boyfriend from behind, with her hands on his bare
chest.



Good art has always provoked a rather visceral reaction in the viewer.
Judging from the reaction of some of the people who hunted him down
just to bitch about his pictures, his work must be right up there with
some of the best art ever created.
I don't get his work, but I've always been somewhat of a plebeian,
uneducated in the finer points of culture.

bill


Bill don't worry that you don't get his work.  You're looking for
something that isn't there...



To be completely honest, I didn't look very hard. If I'm going to look 
at pictures of nekkid wimmen, I set the bar a little higher (they have 
to be wimmen).


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Re: Geso Gone fishing

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling

There were a couple of really cheesy photographs in there.

On 8/25/2014 9:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

from our boys weekend (catch and release) in Gilmour Ontario

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2014-fishing/album/index.html




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Re: I feel sorry for your children

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling

On 8/25/2014 9:25 AM, Bill wrote:

On 24/08/2014 11:45 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Bill wrote:

I always wonder exactly what is going on in the heads of people who
sexualize very young children and then pretend someone else is doing
something wrong.
Neumann is an idiot if he didn't expect some mentally unstable portion
of the population of the USA to react just as they did , the people
who are seeing his daughter as an object of sexuality are sick minded,
fucked up whack jobs.


Kind of like the people that don't expect people to get upset when they
let their children go play at the park unsupervised.

Whatever you think about Neumann, what some people would see as a cute
"kid taking a bath" photo, other people see as child pornography. As
photographers, we need to be aware of other people pushing their agendas
on other people.  A few months ago, someone got upset at one of my
pictures that she described as pornographic.  It was a fully clothed
woman, holding her boyfriend from behind, with her hands on his bare 
chest.




Good art has always provoked a rather visceral reaction in the viewer. 
Judging from the reaction of some of the people who hunted him down 
just to bitch about his pictures, his work must be right up there with 
some of the best art ever created.
I don't get his work, but I've always been somewhat of a plebeian, 
uneducated in the finer points of culture.


bill

Bill don't worry that you don't get his work.  You're looking for 
something that isn't there...


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Re: I feel sorry for your children

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling
There are bluenoses everywhere.  Naked chile photos are a tradition that 
goes back to the Victorian era. The extreme politically correct and the 
the over the top religious of a number of religions will find the naked 
photos objectionable, and in some jurisdictions prosecutable.  The 
photos of the little girl are not pornographic, but they aren't anything 
I'd show. They look more like snapshots designed to embarrass her in 
front of future dates.


On 8/24/2014 6:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Wyatt Neumann is a photographer and a father. In 2014 he took his 
two-year-old daughter Stella on a cross-country road trip, 
photographing their journey along the way. Neumann captured sunsets 
and cornfields and, of course, Stella, often donning one of most 
two-year-old girls' two favorite ensembles: a princess dress and 
nothing at all.


In the middle of the trip, what the Safari Gallery describes as "a 
hyper puritanical, neo-conservative group" launched a cyber-attack on 
Neumann's images, specifically those of Stella. Calling the images 
"perverse," "sick" and "pornographic," members of the group attempted 
to remove all traces of them from the web. They successfully prompted 
Facebook and Instagram to shut down his accounts, and they criticized 
his artist website as well. While Neumann claims he was open to others 
expressing their opinions about his work, the "forced censorship" went 
too far.


And so on.  Text and some pictures at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/21/wyatt-neumann_n_5683243.html




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OT: EMAIL

2014-08-25 Thread John
This is off topic, but I found it interesting. There are enough nerds 
here, I figured some of you might find it interesting as well.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-weber/the-history-of-email-boy-who-invented-email_b_5690783.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-p-michelson/the-history-of-email-invention-of-email_b_5707913.html

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Re: PESO: 10 Murray St

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling

It will be replaced with a glass and steel box most likely.

On 8/25/2014 9:10 AM, Attila Boros wrote:

Very nice street view, I like the wide angle. Nice detail, pleasant
composition with lots to look at. I wonder what will be built in the
concrete building's place.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Philip Northeast
 wrote:




The concrete building (number 10) is due for demolition,  it does not
realy fit withe the old sandstone buildings around it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/14983338496/



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Re: PESO - 'A Trio of Forget Me Nots'

2014-08-25 Thread Alastair Robertson
Lovely shot and I really like the even lighting across the image.
Being a plant ecologist, I need to point out that these aren't
forget-me-not - they are some sort of cranesbill - probably Geranium
maculatum

Alastair

On 25 August 2014 09:54, Attila Boros  wrote:
> Nice trio. At first I had the same reaction as Bruce, but liked it
> after viewing the larger version:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093&size=lg
> Is it just me, or the greens are really darker in the large version?
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>> Taken last June in the U P of Michigan with a K3, 200mmf4.0 ED Macro, 1/25 @
>> f8, 800 ISO.
>>
>> Your thoughts ?
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17844093
>>
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Re: Now that the list is back can we start complaining about the K-S1

2014-08-25 Thread P.J. Alling
Actually I had to look some of it up. I couldn't remember the exact 
sequence of events. I'm not the one who's likely to be confused. But I'm 
been using Pentax since it was Asahi Opt. Co. Ltd., or in the States 
Honeywell.


Funny thing, there was a rumor, maybe true for all I know, that the US 
Navy was going to adopt Pentax as it's official camera because some 
functionary somewhere thought that Honeywell actually manufactured the 
cameras.


On 8/25/2014 2:51 AM, Alan C wrote:
So what's the problem? You're obviously not confused at all and 
obviously know the haphazard naming system off by heart. Keeps the 
mind active. Imagine how dull life would be if everything was 
completely logical. Try working out what your names may have been had 
we stuck to the naming conventions of the 18th century!


LOL

Alan C

-Original Message- From: P.J. Alling
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Subject: Re: Now that the list is back can we start complaining about 
the K-S1


The naming convention.  It's guaranteed to add to the confusion. I mean
really.

Pentax dropped the *ist terminology and brought back the K nomenclature.

The first series of K digital slrs were the
K-10D Top of the line semi-pro
K-100D Middle range.
K-110D a K100 without SR.

The K100D was improved with power contacts and renamed the K100D Super

That still makes sense.

K20D replaced the K10D
K200D replaced the K100D super
K2000 replaced the K110D (New Body design), but just to confuse things a
bit it was also sold as the K-M

So far except for the unfortunate K-M which if you take the M to be a
Roman numeral makes it the K-1000, or try a web search you'll get more
hits, well then anyway, on the first KM film camera, it all make sense.

Then they start getting cute, the K200D and K2000 are both replaced by
the intermediate K-r or K-x (dates of production of both those cameras
are the same and seem to be more alike than the K50 and the K30).

The K-7 replaces the K20D, the naming convention is now completely 
broken.


The K-5 replaces the K-7 so it looks like a naming convention is back 
track.


The K-r K-x are replaced with the K-30 just to break the naming
convention a bit more, though it's just possible to assume the K-30
actually replaces the K20D, assuming the the K-7 didn't actually replace
the K20D, thought that' takes a bit of historical revisionism, it's
capabilities are sort of K20Dish with two control wheels, though the
body style is more like an improved K-r.

The K-5II/K-IIs replace the K-5.

The K-3 replaces the K5II the K-5IIs becomes the second tier semi-pro
camera.

Then the K50 replaces the K-30, breaking the convention again, but the
K500 is introduced as the entry level DSLR.


Now the Line is the K-3, K-5IIs, K-50, K-500.  Wow the naming makes
sense!  That is until you trace how we got here.  That's putting aside
the K-01 which logically should be, based on the current lineup, a FF 24
or 36mp camera, or the replacement for the K-3, but is instead what
appears to be a mirrorless dead end, That also doesn't include that the
K-x and K-m duplicate the names of the KX and KM film cameras. Don't
even get me started on the MX-1.

But now, Pentax decided to break the Naming convention yet again,
releasing the K-S1.  Based on it's name where would you expect it to
fall in the current lineup of DSLRs, (the fact that Pentax actually has
a lineup of DSLRs is amazing in and of itself).

Based on it's specifications it could slot in below a K-500 replacement,
or replace the K-500, but based on it's name? It does however ape the
Q-S1 name which seems to be the new top of the line in that series of
cameras.

This would be enough to confuse any new user, and quite a few who aren't
so new but have never been anything but digital photographers.

Pentax shoots itself in the foot in a lot of ways, and has done so as
long as I can remember, even from the "Good Old Days" of the M series
film cameras and the "Great Old Days" when the Spotmatic ruled as the
Sports photographers weapon of choice, when a camera being light and
handy was more important than FPS because you paid an immense cost in
weight to get high fps, which at the time wasn't so very high.

What the K-S1 looks like is Pentax's answer to the Canon Rebel SL1, but
I didn't think that camera was selling all that well, so while it's an
answer, I'm not at all sure how that particular question was phrased.



On 8/24/2014 2:19 PM, Alan C wrote:
Are you complaining about the names or the naming convention or just 
complaining?


Alan C

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K-S1


I mean really all the best people do it, at least that's what you'd
think if you read the Pentax Fora.

By the way, is it only me or does anyone else keep reading it as the
Kay-five-one, not the Kay-ess-one?

My major complaint is w

Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Bill

On 25/08/2014 8:57 AM, Eric Weir wrote:


On Aug 25, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Bill 
wrote:


primarily casual amateurs who were buying zoom lenses, and the 15,
20 and 24 just didn't sell in great numbers. The A15/3.5 is also
rather a horse (I have one that is in absolutely cherry condition).
If you want something that wide, you would be better to get the
15/4 Limited, or buy a Fuji and pick up their 14/2.8.


Thanks, Bill. I want something a little wider than the 28 and fast. I
find myself in a lot of low-light situations. Contrary to my original
post, I might have to go for one of those shorter a’s. Just not right
now.



If you want a 21/3.2 LTD, I could probably be coaxed into parting with 
mine. I rarely use it, and when I want something that wide I tend now to 
reach for my Fuji and the 23/1.4.

email me off list if you are interested.

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A mini-review of the LowePro AW 400 Flipside + online buying experience

2014-08-25 Thread Darren Addy
This might be controversial. If you don't like it or are lucky enough
to have a local camera store that you like to support rather than
buying online, by all means feel free... but I thought I would pass
along a good experience I had buying online.

I've got a LowePro AW 300 Flipside that I like, but I decided to get a
2nd backpack for more gear. Obviously you can only WEAR one at a time,
but I use 'em like luggage to take between home/car/work.

So I was looking at the supposedly larger AW 400 Flipside. The Pine
Green one goes for $131.73 on B&H. If you check eBay you find them at
approximately half that but from China, so I was suspicious. Doing my
due diligence I discovered that some might be knockoffs. However I
also discovered an eBay seller that had the genuine article. So I'm
passing that info along to the PDML congregation.

The seller's name is bulessky. His store is here:
http://stores.ebay.com/bulessky?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
He offers free shipping, but you must be prepared to wait for the
item.  I popped for the $7 extra for "ePacket delivery from China". I
purchased it on August 13th and it arrived on August 22nd (middle of
the U.S.). There is an unpacking video on YouTube that mimics the
experience I had getting mine. It is in spanish, but you don't need
the audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_MzMth-dw

It doesn't come in a box, but simply wrapped in a layer of tough
plastic. Mine arrived in fine shape. Inside was a LowePro printed
plastic wrap. The bag had all of the actual LowePro tags and sewn on
LowePro tags and patches. It sure looks like the Real Deal when
compared to my AW 300 flipside.

Now for a mini-review:
I was surprised that the bag was not a lot bigger (physically) than
the AW 300, on first glance. However. it has a big section that unzips
on the FRONT as well as the back. It would be big enough to slip a
small laptop (or tablet) in and has compartments for other small
items. At the bottom front is another zipper that accesses a separate
front pocket. This looks like the perfect place to store my X-Rite
ColorChecker Passport, something that is useless if left at home. The
very bottom exterior also has a zippered compartment that holds the
all-weather cover. You can wrap your pack to protect it further from
the elements (rain and sand). Inside, there are movable padded
dividers that would let you store 8 lenses vertically, in addition to
a DSLR body with long lens attached. At the bottom is plenty of room,
side-to-side for flash or other accessories. In addition to all the
room in the bag, there are straps and places to hook on other items
outside the bag if you like, such as tripod/monopod. There are
open/elastic topped side pockets on both sides with more storage.

The AW 400 also has big padded "hip wings" on the straps that you can
put around your midsection. My AW 300 did not have this. This helps
bear the weight and allow you to slip out of the backpack and grab
items without sitting it on the (wet/muddy) ground. This is why they
call it a Flipside. The main equipment compartment is not exposed to
the public, but against your back, which makes riding public
transportation with your equipment a lot safer.

I'm super pleased with the bag and especially with the deal: I spent a
whopping $63.70 with the ePackets shipping. Hopefully someone finds
this useful.

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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 25, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Bill  wrote:

> primarily casual amateurs who were buying zoom lenses, and the 15, 20 and 24 
> just didn't sell in great numbers.
> The A15/3.5 is also rather a horse (I have one that is in absolutely cherry 
> condition). If you want something that wide, you would be better to get the 
> 15/4 Limited, or buy a Fuji and pick up their 14/2.8.

Thanks, Bill. I want something a little wider than the 28 and fast. I find 
myself in a lot of low-light situations. Contrary to my original post, I might 
have to go for one of those shorter a’s. Just not right now. 

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Re: Peso - City storm clouds - Astor Place

2014-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 8/25/2014 07:52, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Very nice, Ann.  I like the way you have included the trees on the
balcony;  it makes a nice visual and thematic contrast.
I can't take credit for the trees being there :-) I would actually have 
preferred there were no trees.

The reflections are nicely done;  I wonder what it would look like on a
day with mixed blue sky and clouds.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


Been there , done that - often.
I'm off to do grocery and other chores - will dig up a golden oldie of 
that building..


But If you do
http://annsan.smugmug.com/
then Type "Astor" in the search box you'll find a few other shots of 
that building and the new one that went up opposite it fairly recently

you'll see some other reflections

thanks for comments all who have done so so far --
I think I failed here by not pumping up the contrast a bit on the sky,
Since most of you (so far) concentrated comments on the building and my 
interest in the scene had as much to do with the weather. I did do

a vertical - didn't like it.

ann





On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

Havent done much shooting lately, except for stuff studio shots of things
I'm selling on ebay..
This is a couple blocks from my apt.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-8fdkw49/A

K-5 with kit lens , auto exposure.

I corrected the tilt, then put it back .. like it better with building
tilted

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Re: Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Bill

On 25/08/2014 8:16 AM, Eric Weir wrote:


It was pointed out to me here recently that the smc a 28/2.8 mm is
actually a normal lens on an APS-c sensor. This morning I took a look
at shorter lenses at KEH. I found an smc a 15/3.5 bgn for $698, an
smc a 20/2.8 ex+ for $648, and an smc a 24/2.8 ex for $328.

The latter comes close to being affordable for me. I assume since the
price is high it’s rare and maybe a better lens than my 28/2.8. But
it’s not that much shorter and I wonder if I’d notice the difference
in the quality of images I got with it.


The three lenses you have listed are quite rare indeed. By the time the 
A series lenses had hit the market, Pentax's market was primarily casual 
amateurs who were buying zoom lenses, and the 15, 20 and 24 just didn't 
sell in great numbers.
The A15/3.5 is also rather a horse (I have one that is in absolutely 
cherry condition). If you want something that wide, you would be better 
to get the 15/4 Limited, or buy a Fuji and pick up their 14/2.8.


bill



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Re: OT Sigma 18-35/1.8

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 20, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:

> Zos, I think you mean 1/(1.5 * FL), assuming that the 1.5 comes from
> the crop factor (and not that you are just steadier than the average
> bear).

Thanks  for the correction, Bryan.

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Re: OT Sigma 18-35/1.8

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:33 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

> You should look up the focal length rule. Its generally 1.5/FL =
> shutter speed minimum for APS-C. SR will give you a couple stops more,
> but its a good idea to not really count on that if possible. I usually
> go for just 1/FL and find that pretty sufficient with SR. You'll find
> with wide lenses (under 28mm) that you can shoot at fairly slow speeds
> with proper technique.

Thanks, Zos. Didn’t know about the focal length rule. As I’ve said, and 
continue to say, I’m the ranked amateur here.

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Re: I feel sorry for your children

2014-08-25 Thread Ken Waller

Ditto !

Couldn't have said it better.

-Original Message-
>From: Bill 
>Subject: Re: I feel sorry for your children
>
>I always wonder exactly what is going on in the heads of people who 
>sexualize very young children and then pretend someone else is doing 
>something wrong.
>Neumann is an idiot if he didn't expect some mentally unstable portion 
>of the population of the USA to react just as they did , the people who 
>are seeing his daughter as an object of sexuality are sick minded, 
>fucked up whack jobs.
>
>bill
>
>
>
>
>On 24/08/2014 4:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> Wyatt Neumann is a photographer and a father. In 2014 he took his
>> two-year-old daughter Stella on a cross-country road trip, photographing
>> their journey along the way. Neumann captured sunsets and cornfields
>> and, of course, Stella, often donning one of most two-year-old girls'
>> two favorite ensembles: a princess dress and nothing at all.
>>
>> In the middle of the trip, what the Safari Gallery describes as "a hyper
>> puritanical, neo-conservative group" launched a cyber-attack on
>> Neumann's images, specifically those of Stella. Calling the images
>> "perverse," "sick" and "pornographic," members of the group attempted to
>> remove all traces of them from the web. They successfully prompted
>> Facebook and Instagram to shut down his accounts, and they criticized
>> his artist website as well. While Neumann claims he was open to others
>> expressing their opinions about his work, the "forced censorship" went
>> too far.
>>
>> And so on.  Text and some pictures at:
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/21/wyatt-neumann_n_5683243.html


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Not short primes for me

2014-08-25 Thread Eric Weir

It was pointed out to me here recently that the smc a 28/2.8 mm is actually a 
normal lens on an APS-c sensor. This morning I took a look at shorter lenses at 
KEH. I found an smc a 15/3.5 bgn for $698, an smc a 20/2.8 ex+ for $648, and an 
smc a 24/2.8 ex for $328. 

The latter comes close to being affordable for me. I assume since the price is 
high it’s rare and maybe a better lens than my 28/2.8. But it’s not that much 
shorter and I wonder if I’d notice the difference in the quality of images I 
got with it. 

Aside from the fact that there are occasions on which I’d like a little wider 
field of view, I’m happy with the 28/2.8. I think I’ll stick with it. 

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Re: PESO x 2 - Cyber Lolita

2014-08-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks for the pointer, Cotty. Fascinating stuff!


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> Bruce,
>
> Track down a book called 'Fruits' by Shoichi Aoki. Fascinating images
> from the Tokyo streets.
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Geso Gone fishing

2014-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
from our boys weekend (catch and release) in Gilmour Ontario

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2014-fishing/album/index.html

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Re: I feel sorry for your children

2014-08-25 Thread Bill

On 24/08/2014 11:45 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Bill wrote:

I always wonder exactly what is going on in the heads of people who
sexualize very young children and then pretend someone else is doing
something wrong.
Neumann is an idiot if he didn't expect some mentally unstable portion
of the population of the USA to react just as they did , the people
who are seeing his daughter as an object of sexuality are sick minded,
fucked up whack jobs.


Kind of like the people that don't expect people to get upset when they
let their children go play at the park unsupervised.

Whatever you think about Neumann, what some people would see as a cute
"kid taking a bath" photo, other people see as child pornography. As
photographers, we need to be aware of other people pushing their agendas
on other people.  A few months ago, someone got upset at one of my
pictures that she described as pornographic.  It was a fully clothed
woman, holding her boyfriend from behind, with her hands on his bare chest.



Good art has always provoked a rather visceral reaction in the viewer. 
Judging from the reaction of some of the people who hunted him down just 
to bitch about his pictures, his work must be right up there with some 
of the best art ever created.
I don't get his work, but I've always been somewhat of a plebeian, 
uneducated in the finer points of culture.


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Re: PESO: 10 Murray St

2014-08-25 Thread Attila Boros
Very nice street view, I like the wide angle. Nice detail, pleasant
composition with lots to look at. I wonder what will be built in the
concrete building's place.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Philip Northeast
 wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The concrete building (number 10) is due for demolition,  it does not
> realy fit withe the old sandstone buildings around it.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/14983338496/
>
>
>
> K5 Sigma 10-20mm EX
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> www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au
>
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Re: Peso - City storm clouds - Astor Place

2014-08-25 Thread Jack Davis
Insightful composition, ann.
Nicely exposed.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: "Ann Sanfedele" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 8:45:28 PM
Subject: Peso - City storm clouds - Astor Place

Havent done much shooting lately, except for stuff studio shots of 
things I'm selling on ebay..
This is a couple blocks from my apt.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-8fdkw49/A

K-5 with kit lens , auto exposure.

I corrected the tilt, then put it back .. like it better with building 
tilted

ann

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Re: I feel sorry for your children

2014-08-25 Thread Attila Boros
Exactly what I was going to say, but Brian said it already.


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :
>
>> I don't think they are pornographic, but I don't think they are
>> tasteful or artistic either.
>
>
>
> I saw these a couple of days ago on Peta Pixel.  I don't think they are
> pornographic either but if the father didn't realise that posting them on
> social media wouldn't draw the reaction it did, he is the most naive person
> I've yet come across.
>
> I reckon he fully expected the reaction and was deliberately trying to
> provoke the sickos out there.  But I don't think his daughter will thank him
> in years to come.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
>
>
>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Wyatt Neumann is a photographer and a father. In 2014 he took his
>>> two-year-old daughter Stella on a cross-country road trip, photographing
>>> their journey along the way. Neumann captured sunsets and cornfields and,
>>> of
>>> course, Stella, often donning one of most two-year-old girls' two
>>> favorite
>>> ensembles: a princess dress and nothing at all.
>>>
>>> In the middle of the trip, what the Safari Gallery describes as "a hyper
>>> puritanical, neo-conservative group" launched a cyber-attack on Neumann's
>>> images, specifically those of Stella. Calling the images "perverse,"
>>> "sick"
>>> and "pornographic," members of the group attempted to remove all traces
>>> of
>>> them from the web. They successfully prompted Facebook and Instagram to
>>> shut
>>> down his accounts, and they criticized his artist website as well. While
>>> Neumann claims he was open to others expressing their opinions about his
>>> work, the "forced censorship" went too far.
>>>
>>> And so on.  Text and some pictures at:
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/21/wyatt-neumann_n_5683243.html
>>>
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Re: PESO: 10 Murray St

2014-08-25 Thread Jack Davis
Exceptionally well done exposure, Philip.
Also, well composed.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: "Philip Northeast" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 8:31:56 PM
Subject: PESO: 10 Murray St





The concrete building (number 10) is due for demolition,  it does not
realy fit withe the old sandstone buildings around it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/14983338496/



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Re: Peso - City storm clouds - Astor Place

2014-08-25 Thread Attila Boros
Nice geometry, I also like the cloudy sky, makes it stand out more.
Would try a vertical crop.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Havent done much shooting lately, except for stuff studio shots of things
> I'm selling on ebay..
> This is a couple blocks from my apt.
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-8fdkw49/A
>
> K-5 with kit lens , auto exposure.
>
> I corrected the tilt, then put it back .. like it better with building
> tilted
>
> ann
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Re: Peso - City storm clouds - Astor Place

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice, Ann.  I like the way you have included the trees on the
balcony;  it makes a nice visual and thematic contrast.  The
reflections are nicely done;  I wonder what it would look like on a
day with mixed blue sky and clouds.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Havent done much shooting lately, except for stuff studio shots of things
> I'm selling on ebay..
> This is a couple blocks from my apt.
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/i-8fdkw49/A
>
> K-5 with kit lens , auto exposure.
>
> I corrected the tilt, then put it back .. like it better with building
> tilted
>
> ann
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Re: AESO 2014 - crossing - GDG

2014-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Interesting.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
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> Every so often, I like to try something a little different.
>
>   https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/crossing3.gif
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Re: AESO 2014 - crossing - GDG

2014-08-25 Thread Alan C

He must be quite fit after all those reps!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 8:58 AM
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Subject: AESO 2014 - crossing - GDG

Every so often, I like to try something a little different.

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/crossing3.gif

Comments always appreciated.

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