Re: OT: Storage management question

2015-06-26 Thread Toine
I would make a backup copy to an external drive or PC first, minimal
the critical files like photo's. Remember Murhpy's law: Anything that
can go wrong, will go wrong

On 26 June 2015 at 04:19, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Question for the network admin gurus here on the list.

 I have a NAS box with two Seagate ST31500341 1.5TB SATA drives in a
 Raid-1 (Mirror) configuration. One of the drives failed.

 The best value replacement I found is a 2TB Seagate NAS HDD (hard-drive
 specifically manufactured for NAS).

 I purchased two identical 2TB drives. The two NAS drives cost less than
 the cost of a single *refurbished* Seagate ST31500341 1.5TB SATA drive
 (no longer available new  the price point for new 1.5TB drives was even
 higher).

 The RAID will finish rebuilding in about 4 hours, but if I understand
 how these things work, I will only be able to use 1.5TB of the 2TB drive.

 Should I go ahead and swap out the other 1.5TB drive  rebuild the RAID
 a second time?

 If I do so, will I get full use of the 2TB drives or are they going to be
 limited by the original 1.5TB RAID Mirror size?

 I've been using PCs  building my own since 1980. I've had some external
 USB drives that wouldn't work after sitting for a while  I've had
 internal drives that failed after sitting on a shelf, but this is the
 first hard-drive I've had fail in use.

 (Not including when I worked at the IBM PC Company integrated software
 sub-systems lab  the programmers abused the shit out of the hardware. I
 was always replacing drives, motherboards, adapter cards, etc that they'd
 burned up hot swapping stuff that wasn't intended to be hot swapped. But
 that's another story.)


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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/6/15, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
for decades to come.

Cheers John.


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What to do with P50T?

2015-06-26 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
There's still a couple of P50T in my camera cupboard. Their batteries 
are empty and chances are, I'll never use them again. I hate to throw 
away things that are still OK. OTOH, they won't be worth enough to 
bother putting them on ebay.


What do you folks do with such stuff?

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Re: Revamped gallery navigation on my homepage

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Looking good—and some very nice galleries!  Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 18, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Having collected several photo galleries over the years, in various 
 technologies,
 navigation was a bit of a mess, so I decided to make it more consistent ...
 
   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
 
 Please have a look, there is a lot of nature/landscape and travel stuff there,
 including material from at least 10 USA roadtrips over the years that also 
 have
 lots of derelict buildings and (very) vintage cars ...
 
 All my PUG and PPG submissions are there as well.
 
 Comments and critique welcome!
 
 Regards, JvW
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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Sorry to see you go. Stop back any time!

Paul

Paul via phone

 On Jun 26, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 On 25/6/15, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
 for decades to come.
 
 Cheers John.
 
 
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Re: What to do with P50T?

2015-06-26 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 07:01 PM, Alan C wrote:
 Make a novelty table lamp. The lamp head  mini-tripod were bought. All I 
 had to make was an Al bracket to incorporate my defunct S1a:
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/19174019891/in/dateposted-public/


That's pretty neat - I've got a few old cameras stashed away.  I might
try something like that.

By the way, Ralf - are those P30Ts?  I don't think there was a 'T'
version of the P50.


Cheers

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 Alan C
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Ralf R Radermacher
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:21 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: What to do with P50T?
 
 There's still a couple of P50T in my camera cupboard. Their batteries
 are empty and chances are, I'll never use them again. I hate to throw
 away things that are still OK. OTOH, they won't be worth enough to
 bother putting them on ebay.
 
 What do you folks do with such stuff?
 
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Re: OT: Storage management question

2015-06-26 Thread Chris Mitchell
I did do a backup of course! It's just something I do so completely
forgot to mention it...

On 26 June 2015 at 07:41, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 I would make a backup copy to an external drive or PC first, minimal
 the critical files like photo's. Remember Murhpy's law: Anything that
 can go wrong, will go wrong

 On 26 June 2015 at 04:19, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Question for the network admin gurus here on the list.

 I have a NAS box with two Seagate ST31500341 1.5TB SATA drives in a
 Raid-1 (Mirror) configuration. One of the drives failed.

 The best value replacement I found is a 2TB Seagate NAS HDD (hard-drive
 specifically manufactured for NAS).

 I purchased two identical 2TB drives. The two NAS drives cost less than
 the cost of a single *refurbished* Seagate ST31500341 1.5TB SATA drive
 (no longer available new  the price point for new 1.5TB drives was even
 higher).

 The RAID will finish rebuilding in about 4 hours, but if I understand
 how these things work, I will only be able to use 1.5TB of the 2TB drive.

 Should I go ahead and swap out the other 1.5TB drive  rebuild the RAID
 a second time?

 If I do so, will I get full use of the 2TB drives or are they going to be
 limited by the original 1.5TB RAID Mirror size?

 I've been using PCs  building my own since 1980. I've had some external
 USB drives that wouldn't work after sitting for a while  I've had
 internal drives that failed after sitting on a shelf, but this is the
 first hard-drive I've had fail in use.

 (Not including when I worked at the IBM PC Company integrated software
 sub-systems lab  the programmers abused the shit out of the hardware. I
 was always replacing drives, motherboards, adapter cards, etc that they'd
 burned up hot swapping stuff that wasn't intended to be hot swapped. But
 that's another story.)


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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR


John,

What Brian wrote is exactly my thoughts.
Unfortunately, I've seen some people disappearing from PDML forever..

I wasn't aware the story with the dealer's price you mentioned, - I might 
have been busy and not ready PDML closely at that time.
But I remember how you were laid off. Don't feel bad, - things happen, and 
the situation was beyond your control.


All the best!
.. and hope to see you popping back in.

Igor



Brian Walters Fri, 26 Jun 2015 04:29:18 -0700 wrote:

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 12:57 PM, John Celio wrote:

Hi all,

I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)

Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
gut feelings.

Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
remaining subscribed.

If anyone feels like keeping in touch, you can find me here:
https://www.facebook.com/piratecapnjac
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JohnCelio/
on reddit.com as /u/neopifex in /r/pentax

Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
for decades to come.

John Celio





I always thought PDML was like the Hotel California.  Is it even
possible to leave?...

All the best, John.


Cheers

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Re: Need opinions: Samyang 14mm f2.8 vs 16mm f2.0

2015-06-26 Thread Matthew Hunt
I don't have experience with either, but if there's any possibility
that you'll get a full-frame Pentax, it's worth noting that the 14mm
is a full-frame lens, and the 16mm is APS-C.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Normally, I dislike seeking opinions on This vs That, because I figure
 one should do their own research and not outsource their brain on
 such matters. However, on this one I've done my research and I'm still
 torn. I would be using this lens for night sky stuff (aurora, meteors,
 mostly). I live at 41N latitude so normally my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is
 what I will use, but the recent aurora outburst surprised me by
 surpassing the FOV I have with that lens. I don't want to get caught
 in that situation again.

 I have a Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 that I happily use for daytime
 ultrawide, but it is possible that this new lens would ALSO have use
 in that scenario in lowlight also. (I like to do severe storm
 photography and it often gets very dark under them, even in daylight
 hours.) So that usage is of secondary concern, but for THAT I would
 definitely prefer the extra wide FOV of the 14mm over the 16mm.

 It appears that the 14mm outperforms the 16mm in CA:
 16mm: 
 http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmCA_1373266588.jpg

 14mm:
 http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmCA_1341302313.jpg

 But on resolution, the 16mm seems to outperform the 14mm (and I shoot on a 
 K-3)
 16mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmMTF_1373266691.jpg

 14mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmMTF_1341302315.jpg

 However, with aurora, a shorter exposure is more important than
 resolution because the longer you leave the shutter open the less
 resolution you are going to get with the aurora motion. So the f/2
 would be advantageous.

 Anyone with Real World experience with one or the other? At this
 point, I'm leaning slightly towards the 16mm f/2

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Re: Peso- A glut of pelicans

2015-06-26 Thread ann sanfedele

Fred, should have had your own PESO -
Had we started using that PESO thing yet when you were still around?

Like both these shots - Jack and Fred -  but because they are both in 
formation shots and the birds are so
perfectly frozen in space, I can't help but think someone seeing them 
will think they have been fiddled with in
photoshop -- this only occurs to me because of our recent glimpse at 
that photojournalism ethics page that
showed the addition of more scuds firing than were actually there to 
begin with . :-)


Fred are you -back-?  we definitely need more birders

ann (was around longer than you I think and still here )

On 6/25/2015 11:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Really nice catch, Frederick! Thanks!

J

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From: Frederick Wasti f...@cetussoft.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:41:46 PM
Subject: Re: Peso- A glut of pelicans


Cranes do not fold their necks when flying (the easiest way to tell
cranes from herons or egrets in flight, even just as silhouettes).

Ten juvenile whooping cranes (with ten straight necks) -

http://www.allgeektome.com/pentax/images/20100119_102600_902x600.jpg

Fred





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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
All the best to you, John!  Remember, you can always change your mind and come 
back :-).  Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:57 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
 for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
 It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
 appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
 pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
 Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
 think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
 because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
 DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
 believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
 paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)
 
 Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
 grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
 whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
 town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
 of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
 gut feelings.
 
 Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
 and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
 I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
 remaining subscribed.
 
 If anyone feels like keeping in touch, you can find me here:
 https://www.facebook.com/piratecapnjac
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JohnCelio/
 on reddit.com as /u/neopifex in /r/pentax
 
 Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
 for decades to come.
 
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Need opinions: Samyang 14mm f2.8 vs 16mm f2.0

2015-06-26 Thread Darren Addy
Normally, I dislike seeking opinions on This vs That, because I figure
one should do their own research and not outsource their brain on
such matters. However, on this one I've done my research and I'm still
torn. I would be using this lens for night sky stuff (aurora, meteors,
mostly). I live at 41N latitude so normally my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is
what I will use, but the recent aurora outburst surprised me by
surpassing the FOV I have with that lens. I don't want to get caught
in that situation again.

I have a Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 that I happily use for daytime
ultrawide, but it is possible that this new lens would ALSO have use
in that scenario in lowlight also. (I like to do severe storm
photography and it often gets very dark under them, even in daylight
hours.) So that usage is of secondary concern, but for THAT I would
definitely prefer the extra wide FOV of the 14mm over the 16mm.

It appears that the 14mm outperforms the 16mm in CA:
16mm: 
http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmCA_1373266588.jpg

14mm:
http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmCA_1341302313.jpg

But on resolution, the 16mm seems to outperform the 14mm (and I shoot on a K-3)
16mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmMTF_1373266691.jpg

14mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmMTF_1341302315.jpg

However, with aurora, a shorter exposure is more important than
resolution because the longer you leave the shutter open the less
resolution you are going to get with the aurora motion. So the f/2
would be advantageous.

Anyone with Real World experience with one or the other? At this
point, I'm leaning slightly towards the 16mm f/2

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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Some really interesting things on the site:  1) yes, there was a medium format 
Pentax, 2) Rick Wormer should check it out because he loves to shoot fields of 
blue bells, and there is a very nice shot of blue bells in the video, 3) the 
gallery of stills shows photographs printed large on canvas  and how they might 
work hanging on the wall in different types of interior rooms—and his shot of 
the blue bells looks really nice in that dining room.

Cheers, Christine







 On Jun 25, 2015, at 3:59 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective.
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR Lik 
 and have sworn off.
 
 J 
 
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 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM
 Subject: Pentax spotted
 
 Looks like a 645 digital in the video?
 
 http://www.europe.lik.com/
 
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Re: PESO: f/1.8 and Be There

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Fantastic!  Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Got a Red Alert from the UK early yesterday afternoon, meaning auroras
 were active. Problem for me was, the auroras would need still need to
 be active when it got dark, and preferably near midnight to 1 AM when
 the central bulge would be pointing at me (opposite the sun). The
 aurora forecast looked promising though and so I kept a close eye on
 it. When Facebookers started reporting aurora as far south as
 Pennsylvannia and northern Iowa around 10:30 PM I headed out. It was
 good (for Nebraska) and then at 12:15 AM it briefly got GREAT. Could
 not believe it when it exceeded the FOV of my 30mm.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/18887926418/
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/19075589155/
 
 K-3 and Sigma EX 30mm f1.4 (at f1.8) that I got used from Tim Bray for
 just this purpose.13 second exposures, ISO 400
 
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Re: What to do with P50T?

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Alan:  that is very cool!  Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 26, 2015, at 4:01 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 Make a novelty table lamp. The lamp head  mini-tripod were bought. All I had 
 to make was an Al bracket to incorporate my defunct S1a:
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/19174019891/in/dateposted-public/
 
 Alan C
 
 -Original Message- From: Ralf R Radermacher
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:21 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: What to do with P50T?
 
 There's still a couple of P50T in my camera cupboard. Their batteries
 are empty and chances are, I'll never use them again. I hate to throw
 away things that are still OK. OTOH, they won't be worth enough to
 bother putting them on ebay.
 
 What do you folks do with such stuff?
 
 Ralf
 
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 Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
 Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
 Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
 
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Re: I *must* have this lens...

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
That looks like great fun!  Thanks for the heads up. Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This lens makes images unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm an
 ultrawide guy anyway, so having the ability to include close focus
 ability like this would be awesome. It is relatively affordable AND
 will be available in K-mount. What can I sell? Hm.
 
 http://petapixel.com/2015/06/23/the-venus-laowa-15mm-f4-is-the-worlds-widest-11-macro-lens/
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Re: PESO: Selfie

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
That’s really fun, Dan!  Someone said to me once when I showed them a shot of 
me in the snow taken with the Pentax on a tripod:  “Christine, it’s not a 
selfie if you use a tripod!”  I had a giggle at that one.

Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Used the remote control unit to take a selfie of our family Sunday:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18039600
 Just a snapshot, but comments are always wlecome.
 
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Re: Way to go Paul !

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Congrats, Paul!  Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 17, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Ran across this item by a member we all know,
 
 https://www.hagerty.com/Articles-Videos/Articles/2015/06/16/Confusion-at-the-Gas-Station?utm_source=ExactTargetutm_medium=emailutm_term=utm_content=utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%206-17-2015
 
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Re: Giulia, my muse, in 'Dreams' photo-performing project

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Very dynamic work, Dario!  And yes, very exciting!  All the best with this 
fantastic project!  Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 8, 2015, at 2:03 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Encouraged by Bruce, here I'm going to explain my ongoing photo project with 
 Giulia. First, she's not a model. She's a dancer  choreographer, and that's 
 essential to understand the concept of the project. It is called 'Lost 
 Dreams, Found Dreams'. What we are doing here is more or less the following:
 We do several shooting sessions in very different environments (wheat field, 
 clay lake, clothing store, studio, etc.) and each of them is seen as a 
 different dream of mine.
 As you know, dreams depend on you but you cannot take true control of them... 
  that's the same with Giulia. I arrange the shooting, but then she takes her 
 freedom to move  change the way she behaves there. She never stays still... 
 moments and situations come and go and vanish, just like dreams. And I try  
 shoot them like fixing a dream when you awake before it's gone forever.
 At the end, we will get a photo exhibition, and much more.
 In fact, Giulia will also create a solo choreography inspired by the 
 feelings, the movements and the situations she experienced in the different 
 photo shootings. Then she will perform that solo in a dance festival here in 
 Italy on September 12, dancing through the printed pictures on show and then 
 also behind and in front of a screen where other pics will be projected onto. 
 That show will be the opening event  of the festival, with me on stage 
 shooting her performence. So photo  dance will merge once again, in an 
 endless loop. Exciting, isn't it?
 
 And now, a few sample pics:
 www.dariobonazza.com/spsr/K3_10759.jpg
 www.dariobonazza.com/spsr/K3_00876.jpg
 www.dariobonazza.com/spsr/K5S44573.jpg
 www.dariobonazza.com/spsr/K5S51593.jpg
 www.dariobonazza.com/spsr/K5S51934.jpg
 
 Interesting?
 
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Re: PESO: Selfie

2015-06-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Christine.

This is the only type of selfie I have ever taken.  I have a Selfie
Stick in my GoPro kit, but have never used it.

Dan Matyola
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 That’s really fun, Dan!  Someone said to me once when I showed them a shot of 
 me in the snow taken with the Pentax on a tripod:  “Christine, it’s not a 
 selfie if you use a tripod!”  I had a giggle at that one.

 Cheers, Christine


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 Used the remote control unit to take a selfie of our family Sunday:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18039600
 Just a snapshot, but comments are always wlecome.

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For the stargazers: Conjunction of Venus and Jupiter

2015-06-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Today, I received this message from my colleague who is an astronomer:


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Over the next few nights, a spectacular conjunction of Venus and Jupiter 
is taking place. By 30 June, the two planets will only be 1/3 of a degree 
apart, easily seen in the dusk sky to the west.


In the realm of pure speculation, the editor of the otherwise sober 
magazine Sky  Telescope said:


.This current trio of Venus-Jupiter conjunctions closely resembles a 
similar series in 3-2 BC that has been suggested as the Star of Bethlehem. 
As has been the case in 2014-5, the first two conjunctions back then were 
extremely close, the last one separated only by 1 degree, all three 
occurred not far from Regulus, and all were similarly high up in the sky..


[Regulus in the constellation Leo, is the brightest star in the ecliptic.]

See the following for more details. And take a look! It is spectacular. 
Really. A conjunctions between Venus and Jupiter is not too rare and 
happen every few years. But such a conjunction high in the western sky 
near Regulus - that is not common. An occultation, when Venus passes 
directly in front of Jupiter happens every 350 years or so. The next 
visible one will be in about 100 years.


http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/observing-news/venus-and-jupiter-a-dazzling-duo-062520154/
http://earthsky.org/tonight/watch-the-great-race-of-venus-and-jupiter-in-june-2015



I hope this information would be useful to some PDMLers.

Igor

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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Ken Waller

John, I sorry to hear you're leaving. You gotta do what you gotta do.

Hope you'll check in from time to time.

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- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com

Subject: Re: Fare Thee Well


All the best to you, John!  Remember, you can always change your mind and 
come back :-).  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:57 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi all,

I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)

Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
gut feelings.

Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
remaining subscribed.

If anyone feels like keeping in touch, you can find me here:
https://www.facebook.com/piratecapnjac
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JohnCelio/
on reddit.com as /u/neopifex in /r/pentax

Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
for decades to come.

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Re: For the stargazers: Conjunction of Venus and Jupiter

2015-06-26 Thread steve harley

On 2015-06-26 11:24 , Igor PDML-StR wrote:

Today, I received this message from my colleague who is an astronomer:
---

Over the next few nights, a spectacular conjunction of Venus and Jupiter is
taking place. By 30 June, the two planets will only be 1/3 of a degree
apart, easily seen in the dusk sky to the west.


have been watching them creep closer since they made a nice symmetrical 
oblique triangle with the moon a few nights ago



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Re: For the stargazers: Conjunction of Venus and Jupiter

2015-06-26 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:

 Over the next few nights, a spectacular conjunction of Venus and Jupiter is
 taking place. By 30 June, the two planets will only be 1/3 of a degree
 apart, easily seen in the dusk sky to the west.

Thanks for the notice, Igor. For comparison, the diameter of the full
moon is about 1/2 degree.

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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread Ken Waller
I especially enjoyed seeing his images mounted, framed and hung on clients 
walls.


I generally ask people that have purchased my images to let me see the final 
result - mounted, matted  framed and where they've hung the images.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com

Subject: Re: Pentax spotted


Some really interesting things on the site:  1) yes, there was a medium 
format Pentax, 2) Rick Wormer should check it out because he loves to 
shoot fields of blue bells, and there is a very nice shot of blue bells in 
the video, 3) the gallery of stills shows photographs printed large on 
canvas  and how they might work hanging on the wall in different types of 
interior rooms—and his shot of the blue bells looks really nice in that 
dining room.


Cheers, Christine







On Jun 25, 2015, at 3:59 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
wrote:


Really? It’s excellent work, IMO. Of course that’s subjective.



On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:

Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR 
Lik and have sworn off.


J

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Subject: Pentax spotted

Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

http://www.europe.lik.com/

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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread Ken Waller

I agree Paul.

I remember a John Shaw seminar where he was asked 'What's the best way to 
sell images?


He responded by advising the audience to become writers and use their images 
in the article/books.



What I've seen over the years, especially since the wide spread use of 
digital capture, is that there are so many really good/great images out 
there that good marketing will set the difference between what sells and 
what doesn't.



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Subject: Re: Pentax spotted


Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
photographers achieve financial success by producing something people 
want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I 
consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it 
with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who 
earn more than I do. More power to them.


Paul

On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:
A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a 
great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.


However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't 
make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive 
storage we use.





Paul via phone


On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:



John wrote:
He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of 
the

645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

I was just about to phrase it as:

Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and 
artistically as Mr. Rockwell.


But, yeah.


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Re: Need opinions: Samyang 14mm f2.8 vs 16mm f2.0

2015-06-26 Thread Darren Addy
Good points, P.J.
People seem to like the 14mm f2.8 on all brands (and they have to
focus also). I'd be using it 99% of the time at infinity (although I
realize that with most lenses today, infinity isn't a stop at the end
of the focusing range, so it requires focusing also). Regarding
distortion, I've been told that there are good lens profiles that
effectively negate the mustache distortion of the 14mm in PS and LR.
Hopefully there is one for the 16mm also.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:11 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 The difference in resolution is probably imperceptible in real world use,
 even on a demanding sensor such as that in the K-3, you don't mention
 distortion, the 14mm displays noticeable barrel distortion on APS-C, I don't
 know about the 16mm, haven't looked at that too much.  The other question is
 do you need that extra stop wide open for focusing, these are manual
 focusing lenses, that the 16mm give you?


 On 6/26/2015 11:36 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Normally, I dislike seeking opinions on This vs That, because I figure
 one should do their own research and not outsource their brain on
 such matters. However, on this one I've done my research and I'm still
 torn. I would be using this lens for night sky stuff (aurora, meteors,
 mostly). I live at 41N latitude so normally my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is
 what I will use, but the recent aurora outburst surprised me by
 surpassing the FOV I have with that lens. I don't want to get caught
 in that situation again.

 I have a Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 that I happily use for daytime
 ultrawide, but it is possible that this new lens would ALSO have use
 in that scenario in lowlight also. (I like to do severe storm
 photography and it often gets very dark under them, even in daylight
 hours.) So that usage is of secondary concern, but for THAT I would
 definitely prefer the extra wide FOV of the 14mm over the 16mm.

 It appears that the 14mm outperforms the 16mm in CA:
 16mm:
 http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmCA_1373266588.jpg

 14mm:

 http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmCA_1341302313.jpg

 But on resolution, the 16mm seems to outperform the 14mm (and I shoot on a
 K-3)

 16mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmMTF_1373266691.jpg


 14mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmMTF_1341302315.jpg

 However, with aurora, a shorter exposure is more important than
 resolution because the longer you leave the shutter open the less
 resolution you are going to get with the aurora motion. So the f/2
 would be advantageous.

 Anyone with Real World experience with one or the other? At this
 point, I'm leaning slightly towards the 16mm f/2



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Re: Need opinions: Samyang 14mm f2.8 vs 16mm f2.0

2015-06-26 Thread steve harley

On 2015-06-26 14:11 , P.J. Alling wrote:

The other question is
do you need that extra stop wide open for focusing, these are manual
focusing lenses, that the 16mm give you?


i don't know these specific lenses, but from experience with the DA 15 i 
know it is pretty hard to blow the focus; the hyperfocal distance at f/4 on 
a 14mm lens is 8.1 ft; at f/2.8 it's 11.4 ft and at f/2 it's 16.1 ft




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Re: Way to go Paul !

2015-06-26 Thread Yolanda Rowe
Good info and well written. Congratulations, Paul.

Yonnie

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Congrats, Paul!  Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 17, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Ran across this item by a member we all know,

 https://www.hagerty.com/Articles-Videos/Articles/2015/06/16/Confusion-at-the-Gas-Station?utm_source=ExactTargetutm_medium=emailutm_term=utm_content=utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%206-17-2015

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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling
Good luck, John. I don't think anyone would hold things beyond your 
control against you.  You're always welcome back in my book, like my, or 
for that matter anyone's, vote here matters all that much.


On 6/25/2015 10:57 PM, John Celio wrote:

Hi all,

I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)

Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
gut feelings.

Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
remaining subscribed.

If anyone feels like keeping in touch, you can find me here:
https://www.facebook.com/piratecapnjac
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JohnCelio/
on reddit.com as /u/neopifex in /r/pentax

Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
for decades to come.

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Re: What to do with P50T?

2015-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling

It looks like it's still useful as a camera if you ever want to...

On 6/26/2015 5:01 AM, Alan C wrote:
Make a novelty table lamp. The lamp head  mini-tripod were bought. 
All I had to make was an Al bracket to incorporate my defunct S1a:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/19174019891/in/dateposted-public/ 



Alan C

-Original Message- From: Ralf R Radermacher
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:21 AM
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Subject: What to do with P50T?

There's still a couple of P50T in my camera cupboard. Their batteries
are empty and chances are, I'll never use them again. I hate to throw
away things that are still OK. OTOH, they won't be worth enough to
bother putting them on ebay.

What do you folks do with such stuff?

Ralf




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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Bruce
John,

Good luck in your future.  I have been arounnd the PDML a long time and have 
been off and on at least twice.  You are welcome to come back and join in 
anytime.  This list is certainly beyond a pure Pentax experience - as many of 
us (myself included) shoot with more cameras and lenses than just Pentax.

I do remember meeting you on several ocassions as a NorCal get together.  I 
especially remember that monster 500mm lens you had when we shot at Fleet Week. 
 That sports finder on top of the lens helped you to get some amazing images 
that day.  Good times...

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On June 25, 2015 7:57:07 PM PDT, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com 
wrote:
Hi all,

I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)

Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
gut feelings.

Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
remaining subscribed.

If anyone feels like keeping in touch, you can find me here:
https://www.facebook.com/piratecapnjac
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Re: Need opinions: Samyang 14mm f2.8 vs 16mm f2.0

2015-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling
The difference in resolution is probably imperceptible in real world 
use, even on a demanding sensor such as that in the K-3, you don't 
mention distortion, the 14mm displays noticeable barrel distortion on 
APS-C, I don't know about the 16mm, haven't looked at that too much.  
The other question is do you need that extra stop wide open for 
focusing, these are manual focusing lenses, that the 16mm give you?


On 6/26/2015 11:36 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

Normally, I dislike seeking opinions on This vs That, because I figure
one should do their own research and not outsource their brain on
such matters. However, on this one I've done my research and I'm still
torn. I would be using this lens for night sky stuff (aurora, meteors,
mostly). I live at 41N latitude so normally my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is
what I will use, but the recent aurora outburst surprised me by
surpassing the FOV I have with that lens. I don't want to get caught
in that situation again.

I have a Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 that I happily use for daytime
ultrawide, but it is possible that this new lens would ALSO have use
in that scenario in lowlight also. (I like to do severe storm
photography and it often gets very dark under them, even in daylight
hours.) So that usage is of secondary concern, but for THAT I would
definitely prefer the extra wide FOV of the 14mm over the 16mm.

It appears that the 14mm outperforms the 16mm in CA:
16mm: 
http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmCA_1373266588.jpg

14mm:
http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmCA_1341302313.jpg

But on resolution, the 16mm seems to outperform the 14mm (and I shoot on a K-3)
16mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmMTF_1373266691.jpg

14mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmMTF_1341302315.jpg

However, with aurora, a shorter exposure is more important than
resolution because the longer you leave the shutter open the less
resolution you are going to get with the aurora motion. So the f/2
would be advantageous.

Anyone with Real World experience with one or the other? At this
point, I'm leaning slightly towards the 16mm f/2




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Re: Need opinions: Samyang 14mm f2.8 vs 16mm f2.0

2015-06-26 Thread Darren Addy
Slim to NO possibility of me being able to afford the Pentax full
frame, but that is a good point. I actually LIKE the fact that I can
get great quality and a 1.5x focal length multiplier with the current
Pentax APS-C cameras when I'm shooting on the long end.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 I don't have experience with either, but if there's any possibility
 that you'll get a full-frame Pentax, it's worth noting that the 14mm
 is a full-frame lens, and the 16mm is APS-C.

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Normally, I dislike seeking opinions on This vs That, because I figure
 one should do their own research and not outsource their brain on
 such matters. However, on this one I've done my research and I'm still
 torn. I would be using this lens for night sky stuff (aurora, meteors,
 mostly). I live at 41N latitude so normally my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is
 what I will use, but the recent aurora outburst surprised me by
 surpassing the FOV I have with that lens. I don't want to get caught
 in that situation again.

 I have a Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 that I happily use for daytime
 ultrawide, but it is possible that this new lens would ALSO have use
 in that scenario in lowlight also. (I like to do severe storm
 photography and it often gets very dark under them, even in daylight
 hours.) So that usage is of secondary concern, but for THAT I would
 definitely prefer the extra wide FOV of the 14mm over the 16mm.

 It appears that the 14mm outperforms the 16mm in CA:
 16mm: 
 http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmCA_1373266588.jpg

 14mm:
 http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmCA_1341302313.jpg

 But on resolution, the 16mm seems to outperform the 14mm (and I shoot on a 
 K-3)
 16mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-16mm-f-2-0-ed-as-umc-cs-lens-review-22335/images/highres-Samyang16mmMTF_1373266691.jpg

 14mm:http://www.ephotozine.com/articles/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621/images/highres-Samyang14mmMTF_1341302315.jpg

 However, with aurora, a shorter exposure is more important than
 resolution because the longer you leave the shutter open the less
 resolution you are going to get with the aurora motion. So the f/2
 would be advantageous.

 Anyone with Real World experience with one or the other? At this
 point, I'm leaning slightly towards the 16mm f/2

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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread ann sanfedele
I hope you are seeing all the byebye massages from the gang before you 
actually depart :-)


ann waves ...

On 6/26/2015 10:15 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

All the best to you, John!  Remember, you can always change your mind and come 
back :-).  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:57 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)

Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
gut feelings.

Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
remaining subscribed.

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Re: I *must* have this lens...

2015-06-26 Thread Christine Nielsen
I wondered about the shadows, too... I notice that most of those sample shots 
seem to be done with additional lighting...

Still.  Hmmm

;)
-c


On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:21 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:

That’s very cool but I don’t think I’d have the patience to use it.  I have 
enough trouble casting shadows on my subjects with the FA 100mm Macro.  I could 
only imagine the struggle with something that physically wide at 4.7mm distance!

Kudos to them for using cats in their sample photos, too :D

Cheers,
Dave

 On Jun 24, 2015, at 6:40 am, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This lens makes images unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm an
 ultrawide guy anyway, so having the ability to include close focus
 ability like this would be awesome. It is relatively affordable AND
 will be available in K-mount. What can I sell? Hm.
 
 http://petapixel.com/2015/06/23/the-venus-laowa-15mm-f4-is-the-worlds-widest-11-macro-lens/
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Re: Revamped gallery navigation on my homepage

2015-06-26 Thread Jan van Wijk
Thanks for looking and commenting, Christine!

Regards, JvW

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:40:02 -0500 Christine Aguila wrote:

Looking good-and some very nice galleries!  Cheers, Christine


 On Jun 18, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Having collected several photo galleries over the years, in various 
 technologies,
 navigation was a bit of a mess, so I decided to make it more consistent ...
 
  http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
 
 Please have a look, there is a lot of nature/landscape and travel stuff 
 there,
 including material from at least 10 USA roadtrips over the years that also 
 have
 lots of derelict buildings and (very) vintage cars ...
 
 All my PUG and PPG submissions are there as well.


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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling
I donno, I'm sure Kennyboy finds they make fine paperweights and door 
stops.


On 6/25/2015 6:09 PM, John wrote:

He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

On 6/25/2015 2:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Nothing personal certainly,  Gonz, but I have seen far too much of MR 
Lik and have sworn off.


J

- Original Message -
From: Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:07:24 AM
Subject: Pentax spotted

Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

http://www.europe.lik.com/






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Peso: - untitled

2015-06-26 Thread ann sanfedele
a window on 7th st that struck my funnybone - she moved after I took one 
grab shot.


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-ftqRFb9/A

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Re: Peso: - untitled

2015-06-26 Thread Jack Davis
Gave me a welcome grin!

J

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:50 PM, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 
 a window on 7th st that struck my funnybone - she moved after I took one grab 
 shot.
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-ftqRFb9/A
 
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Re: OT: Storage management question

2015-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling
No you won't get the two full 2 terabytes if you just replace the 
original drive and rebuild the raid array a second time.  All it will do 
is replicate what's on the existing drive, at best, and if the hardware 
isn't identical, which of course it isn't, maybe not even that.  You 
really need to build a new array using the two new drives and then copy 
all the files on the existing drive to the new raid array.


On 6/25/2015 10:19 PM, John wrote:

Question for the network admin gurus here on the list.

I have a NAS box with two Seagate ST31500341 1.5TB SATA drives in a
Raid-1 (Mirror) configuration. One of the drives failed.

The best value replacement I found is a 2TB Seagate NAS HDD (hard-drive
specifically manufactured for NAS).

I purchased two identical 2TB drives. The two NAS drives cost less than
the cost of a single *refurbished* Seagate ST31500341 1.5TB SATA drive
(no longer available new  the price point for new 1.5TB drives was even
higher).

The RAID will finish rebuilding in about 4 hours, but if I understand
how these things work, I will only be able to use 1.5TB of the 2TB drive.

Should I go ahead and swap out the other 1.5TB drive  rebuild the RAID
a second time?

If I do so, will I get full use of the 2TB drives or are they going to be
limited by the original 1.5TB RAID Mirror size?

I've been using PCs  building my own since 1980. I've had some external
USB drives that wouldn't work after sitting for a while  I've had
internal drives that failed after sitting on a shelf, but this is the
first hard-drive I've had fail in use.

(Not including when I worked at the IBM PC Company integrated software
sub-systems lab  the programmers abused the shit out of the hardware. I
was always replacing drives, motherboards, adapter cards, etc that they'd
burned up hot swapping stuff that wasn't intended to be hot swapped. But
that's another story.)





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Re: Way to go Paul !

2015-06-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks all. I wrote that piece for Hagerty's newspaper supplement, a client I 
picked up to replace the NY Times when their auto section went belly up. Didn't 
know it was on the web. The newspaper space limits me to about 500 words, so 
everything is broad and general. But Hagerty is a good publisher. Nice to work 
with, and they pay quite a bit better than the grey lady.

Paul via phone

 On Jun 26, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Yolanda Rowe ypr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good info and well written. Congratulations, Paul.
 
 Yonnie
 
 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 Congrats, Paul!  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 On Jun 17, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Ran across this item by a member we all know,
 
 https://www.hagerty.com/Articles-Videos/Articles/2015/06/16/Confusion-at-the-Gas-Station?utm_source=ExactTargetutm_medium=emailutm_term=utm_content=utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%206-17-2015
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
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Re: Peso: - untitled

2015-06-26 Thread Marco Alpert
Nice one!

- Marco

On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:50 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 a window on 7th st that struck my funnybone - she moved after I took one grab 
 shot.
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-ftqRFb9/A
 
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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Larry Colen

And I thought this post would be about the upcoming Dead show.

John Celio wrote:

Hi all,

I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)


I missed that. It was before I joined the list. There are many mailing 
lists that I just send off to a specific folder and will check in on 
when I have a specific need.




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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling
I resent that remark, the price of Hard Drives has fallen considerably 
in the last few years...


On 6/25/2015 7:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:
A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a 
great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.


However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who 
don't make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard 
drive storage we use.





Paul via phone


On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:



John wrote:
He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of 
the

645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.

It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
actually used some of the equipment he reviews.

I was just about to phrase it as:

Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and 
artistically as Mr. Rockwell.


But, yeah.


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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread Jack Davis
Much prefer the vivid BW.

J

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:39 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd be a Hypocrite, if I didn't admit to not overly processing to yield 
 dramatic Black and White images.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20butisitart.html
 
 and before conversion
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20becauseannasked.html
 
 but you've got to know what you're working for.  No one was ever really 
 supposed to see the second image.
 
 
 
 
 On 6/25/2015 8:29 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
 I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.
 
 So you'd like his work if it was B+W ?
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Pentax spotted
 
 
 I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.
 
 On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
 I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain replaced.
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more bizarre, 
 but in a different way, just sayin'.
 
 On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote:
 Looks like a 645 digital in the video?
 
 http://www.europe.lik.com/
 
 
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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling
I'd be a Hypocrite, if I didn't admit to not overly processing to yield 
dramatic Black and White images.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20butisitart.html

and before conversion

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20becauseannasked.html

but you've got to know what you're working for.  No one was ever really 
supposed to see the second image.





On 6/25/2015 8:29 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.


So you'd like his work if it was B+W ?

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- Original Message - From: P.J. Alling 
webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Pentax spotted



I'd lend you some eye bleach, but, I'm fresh out.

On 6/25/2015 5:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
I hadn’t thought of that. Now I’m going to have to get my brain 
replaced.



On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, P.J. Alling 
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


With a name like Peter Lik, I'd expect his work to be a bit more 
bizarre, but in a different way, just sayin'.


On 6/25/2015 2:07 PM, Gonz wrote:

Looks like a 645 digital in the video?

http://www.europe.lik.com/






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Re: What to do with P50T?

2015-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling
It looks like in general only the LX, MX, PZ1-P and MZ-S film cameras 
from Pentax' 35mm bayonet mount days hold any value.  Some schools still 
teach photography with film cameras, maybe you can donate to one of 
them, otherwise they're not even worth throwing away, sadly.


On 6/26/2015 4:21 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
There's still a couple of P50T in my camera cupboard. Their batteries 
are empty and chances are, I'll never use them again. I hate to throw 
away things that are still OK. OTOH, they won't be worth enough to 
bother putting them on ebay.


What do you folks do with such stuff?

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Re: For the stargazers: Conjunction of Venus and Jupiter

2015-06-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Matt,

I'm glad it was useful.

[nerd on]
Strictly speaking, the _diameter_ of the moon is the same regardless if it 
is full or not. :-)

[nerd off]

Cheers,

Igor


 Matthew Hunt Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:33:07 -0700 wrote:

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:



Over the next few nights, a spectacular conjunction of Venus and Jupiter is
taking place. By 30 June, the two planets will only be 1/3 of a degree
apart, easily seen in the dusk sky to the west.


Thanks for the notice, Igor. For comparison, the diameter of the full
moon is about 1/2 degree.

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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread Larry Colen



paul stenquist wrote:

Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. 
What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider 
him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with 
intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn more 
than I do. More power to them.



In case it wasn't obvious the snark in my comment was not directed at 
Mr. Lik. My first exposure to him was when I was staying with a friend 
and there was some show about him on TV. My reaction to what he said and 
his presentation was that he was on overly dramatic pompous buffoon. I 
was far more impressed by the videography in that episode than the 
photos that he took.


My impression of his work photographically is that he is indeed a 
competent photographer.  However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were 
to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out 
as any better than most of the other landscape photos.


I do recognize that what I objected to on the TV show could well have 
more to do with the medium than him, and I do not object to any artist 
making an honest living with their work.


I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by 
selling his photos as an artwork investment.  In a situation somewhat 
like the gels from the Disney animated movies, in reality the supply far 
exceeds the demand on the market, so when people try to recoup their 
investment in his art, they find that the would end up losing money in 
the process.


As was pointed out, Kinkade would probably be a more apt comparison. 
However, I contend that selling investments that lose money can be 
equivalent to selling advice that is wrong, and in that regard Lik and 
Rockwell are cut from the same cloth.




Paul

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Paul Stenquist wrote:

A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great deal 
of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.

However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make 
enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we use.


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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread paul stenquist
if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos 
when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to buy 
if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. 
“Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually sell 
$2000 worth of photos. 

I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I won’t 
name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know when I’m 
outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his work, more 
power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good investment, but it’s 
okay to say that it might be a good investment. I haven’t seen his pitch, so I 
don’t know.

If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but if 
you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, and 
given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story.  I earn 
a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority of it is 
copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and salesmanship. 

Paul
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
 photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. 
 What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider 
 him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with 
 intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn 
 more than I do. More power to them. 
 
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 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great 
 deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.
 
 However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make 
 enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we 
 use.
 
 
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:
 
 
 
 John wrote:
 He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the
 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series.
 
 It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he
 actually used some of the equipment he reviews.
 I was just about to phrase it as:
 
 Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically 
 as Mr. Rockwell.
 
 But, yeah.
 
 
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PESO - Lines and Curves

2015-06-26 Thread Rick Womer
Lines, curves, and shadows are all weaknesses of mine. This is another shot 
from the Royal Crescent.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18043345

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: I *must* have this lens...

2015-06-26 Thread steve harley

On 2015-06-26 14:49 , Christine Nielsen wrote:

I wondered about the shadows, too... I notice that most of those sample shots 
seem to be done with additional lighting...

Still.  Hmmm


the sample still photos don't seem to be from anything close to 1:1 
distances, i think they could have been accomplished with natural light — 
the flash fill is mainly for drama


there are some really close shots in the video, though — in those you can 
see how nearly featureless the backgrounds become when you're close to 1:1




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Re: Peso: - untitled

2015-06-26 Thread ann sanfedele

Thanks much - especially appreciated coming from you

ann

On 6/26/2015 4:15 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Nice one!

- Marco

On Jun 26, 2015, at 12:50 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


a window on 7th st that struck my funnybone - she moved after I took one grab 
shot.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-ftqRFb9/A

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Re: Peso: - untitled

2015-06-26 Thread ann sanfedele

Glad it tickled you, JAck
ann

On 6/26/2015 3:54 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Gave me a welcome grin!

J

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a window on 7th st that struck my funnybone - she moved after I took one grab 
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http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-ftqRFb9/A

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Re: What to do with P50T?

2015-06-26 Thread Alan C
Make a novelty table lamp. The lamp head  mini-tripod were bought. All I 
had to make was an Al bracket to incorporate my defunct S1a:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/19174019891/in/dateposted-public/

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Ralf R Radermacher

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Subject: What to do with P50T?

There's still a couple of P50T in my camera cupboard. Their batteries
are empty and chances are, I'll never use them again. I hate to throw
away things that are still OK. OTOH, they won't be worth enough to
bother putting them on ebay.

What do you folks do with such stuff?

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Re: PESO - Lines and Curves

2015-06-26 Thread ann sanfedele

Ta Da!  (reading ahead is a weakness of mine :-)

Really nice shot, as I , um, mentioned in the wrong place

ann

On 6/26/2015 9:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Lines, curves, and shadows are all weaknesses of mine. This is another shot 
from the Royal Crescent.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18043345

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: I *must* have this lens...

2015-06-26 Thread Larry Colen
The fact that it can do both doesn't mean that it had to do both at the same 
time.

On June 26, 2015 3:05:41 PM PDT, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
On 2015-06-26 14:49 , Christine Nielsen wrote:
 I wondered about the shadows, too... I notice that most of those
sample shots seem to be done with additional lighting...

 Still.  Hmmm

the sample still photos don't seem to be from anything close to 1:1 
distances, i think they could have been accomplished with natural light
— 
the flash fill is mainly for drama

there are some really close shots in the video, though — in those you
can 
see how nearly featureless the backgrounds become when you're close to
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Re: Way to go Paul !

2015-06-26 Thread Ken Waller
I had car insurance on my Boxster thru Hagarty, and one of the benefits was 
access to several of their publications both digital and hard copy. I got 
Paul's article from their online magazine.


Glad to hear you're providing articles for them. They have a really neat 
office located in Traverse City, Michigan, normally they have several 
interesting vehicles in their lobby.


Alas I've replaced them with a much lower cost insurance for my Cayman GTS.

I look forward to more articles from you Paul.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: Way to go Paul !


Thanks all. I wrote that piece for Hagerty's newspaper supplement, a 
client I picked up to replace the NY Times when their auto section went 
belly up. Didn't know it was on the web. The newspaper space limits me to 
about 500 words, so everything is broad and general. But Hagerty is a good 
publisher. Nice to work with, and they pay quite a bit better than the 
grey lady.


Paul via phone


On Jun 26, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Yolanda Rowe ypr...@gmail.com wrote:

Good info and well written. Congratulations, Paul.

Yonnie

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Christine Aguila 
christ...@caguila.com wrote:

Congrats, Paul!  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 17, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Ran across this item by a member we all know,

https://www.hagerty.com/Articles-Videos/Articles/2015/06/16/Confusion-at-the-Gas-Station?utm_source=ExactTargetutm_medium=emailutm_term=utm_content=utm_campaign=Hagerty%20Weekly%20News%206-17-2015

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Re: Pentax spotted

2015-06-26 Thread Ken Waller
However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were to make it into the PDML 
annual, I don't think that it would stand out as any better than most of 
the other landscape photos.


The difference is he is a well known name if photographic circles and as far 
as I know none on the PDML'ers are.


I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by 
selling his photos as an artwork investment.


So I assume if someone were to offer you an ungodly amount for one of your 
images you'd refuse !




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- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Subject: Re: Pentax spotted





paul stenquist wrote:
Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing 
photographers achieve financial success by producing something people 
want. What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but 
I consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does 
it with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those 
who earn more than I do. More power to them.



In case it wasn't obvious the snark in my comment was not directed at Mr. 
Lik. My first exposure to him was when I was staying with a friend and 
there was some show about him on TV. My reaction to what he said and his 
presentation was that he was on overly dramatic pompous buffoon. I was far 
more impressed by the videography in that episode than the photos that he 
took.


My impression of his work photographically is that he is indeed a 
competent photographer.  However, if one of his shots with the 645Z were 
to make it into the PDML annual, I don't think that it would stand out as 
any better than most of the other landscape photos.


I do recognize that what I objected to on the TV show could well have more 
to do with the medium than him, and I do not object to any artist making 
an honest living with their work.


I am somewhat conflicted over his separating suckers from their money by 
selling his photos as an artwork investment.  In a situation somewhat like 
the gels from the Disney animated movies, in reality the supply far 
exceeds the demand on the market, so when people try to recoup their 
investment in his art, they find that the would end up losing money in 
the process.


As was pointed out, Kinkade would probably be a more apt comparison. 
However, I contend that selling investments that lose money can be 
equivalent to selling advice that is wrong, and in that regard Lik and 
Rockwell are cut from the same cloth.




Paul

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Paul Stenquist wrote:
A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a 
great deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none.
However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't 
make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive 
storage we use.


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Re: What to do with P50T?

2015-06-26 Thread David J Brooks
Ralf.

I tried to sell a one time $7200 Nikon D1 lately. I offered the camera
with batteries and charger for $60, no takers. Its staying in the
cupboard.

Dave

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Ralf R Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 There's still a couple of P50T in my camera cupboard. Their batteries are
 empty and chances are, I'll never use them again. I hate to throw away
 things that are still OK. OTOH, they won't be worth enough to bother putting
 them on ebay.

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Re: OT: Storage management question

2015-06-26 Thread John

Murphy has come and gone. 8^/

For some reason the rebuild didn't go as planned.

The NAS is in a D-Link enclosure and it was supposed to automatically
rebuild the new drive as part of the existing Raid 1 when I installed it
and powered on.

Instead, the existing disk thinks it's a Raid 1 and the new disk thinks
it's a separate JBOD volume.

Everything of importance on this NAS is backed up to multiple other
drives, but I'm testing how well Xcopy works to transfer all of the
files from Volume 1 to Volume 2 before I go out to buy another external
drive to back it all up on again.

Once I'm sure I've got suspenders (braces - get your mind out of the
gutter Bob  Cotty) and a belt in place, I'll try again to rebuild the
NAS as a single Raid 1 volume.


On 6/26/2015 7:46 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

I did do a backup of course! It's just something I do so completely
forgot to mention it...

On 26 June 2015 at 07:41, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:

I would make a backup copy to an external drive or PC first, minimal
the critical files like photo's. Remember Murhpy's law: Anything that
can go wrong, will go wrong

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Question for the network admin gurus here on the list.

I have a NAS box with two Seagate ST31500341 1.5TB SATA drives in a
Raid-1 (Mirror) configuration. One of the drives failed.

The best value replacement I found is a 2TB Seagate NAS HDD (hard-drive
specifically manufactured for NAS).

I purchased two identical 2TB drives. The two NAS drives cost less than
the cost of a single *refurbished* Seagate ST31500341 1.5TB SATA drive
(no longer available new  the price point for new 1.5TB drives was even
higher).

The RAID will finish rebuilding in about 4 hours, but if I understand
how these things work, I will only be able to use 1.5TB of the 2TB drive.

Should I go ahead and swap out the other 1.5TB drive  rebuild the RAID
a second time?

If I do so, will I get full use of the 2TB drives or are they going to be
limited by the original 1.5TB RAID Mirror size?

I've been using PCs  building my own since 1980. I've had some external
USB drives that wouldn't work after sitting for a while  I've had
internal drives that failed after sitting on a shelf, but this is the
first hard-drive I've had fail in use.

(Not including when I worked at the IBM PC Company integrated software
sub-systems lab  the programmers abused the shit out of the hardware. I
was always replacing drives, motherboards, adapter cards, etc that they'd
burned up hot swapping stuff that wasn't intended to be hot swapped. But
that's another story.)


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Re: Peso- A glut of pelicans

2015-06-26 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Alan! Much appreciated.

J

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 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 Very nice, Jack. Getting into the detail zone! Vagrants have occasionally 
 been recorded in Kruger but I haven't seen any.
 
 Alan C
 
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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 12:57 PM, John Celio wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
 for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
 It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
 appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
 pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
 Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
 think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
 because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
 DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
 believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
 paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)
 
 Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
 grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
 whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
 town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
 of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
 gut feelings.
 
 Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
 and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
 I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
 remaining subscribed.
 
 If anyone feels like keeping in touch, you can find me here:
 https://www.facebook.com/piratecapnjac
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JohnCelio/
 on reddit.com as /u/neopifex in /r/pentax
 
 Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
 for decades to come.
 
 John Celio



I always thought PDML was like the Hotel California.  Is it even
possible to leave?...

All the best, John.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Darren Addy
Fare thee well, John.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 12:57 PM, John Celio wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
 for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
 It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
 appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
 pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
 Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
 think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
 because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
 DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
 believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
 paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)

 Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
 grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
 whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
 town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
 of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
 gut feelings.

 Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
 and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
 I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
 remaining subscribed.

 If anyone feels like keeping in touch, you can find me here:
 https://www.facebook.com/piratecapnjac
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JohnCelio/
 on reddit.com as /u/neopifex in /r/pentax

 Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
 for decades to come.

 John Celio



 I always thought PDML was like the Hotel California.  Is it even
 possible to leave?...

 All the best, John.


 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Fare Thee Well

2015-06-26 Thread Rick Womer
I'm not sure whether PDML is more like the Hotel California or a Black
Flag Roach Motel.

But anyway... It's been good having you among us, John. Drop by again sometime!

Rick
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Fare thee well, John.

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 12:57 PM, John Celio wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've decided to leave the PDML. I've been lurking in silence (mostly)
 for so long that I don't feel like there's much here for me anymore.
 It's crazy to think I've been a member for ten years, including seven
 appearances in the PDML Photo Annuals. There was a time when I was a
 pretty active list member, especially back when I worked at Reed's
 Cameras and would occasionally get the scoop on new models. I don't
 think I told anyone this, but I got me and my Pentax rep in trouble
 because I accidentally shared the dealer cost of an unreleased Pentax
 DSLR (K10D?) rather than the list price. Thankfully no one seemed to
 believe me and no further harm was done. Suffice to say, you folks
 paid a lot more for your K10Ds than I did. ;)

 Actually, I hope no one who tried to order one through me holds a
 grudge for what happened after I was laid off in October of 2006. That
 whole fiasco still bothers me. I sometimes see my old boss around
 town, but he won't look me in the eye. I'm pretty sure there was a lot
 of shady shit going on there, but I have no evidence beyond rumors and
 gut feelings.

 Anyway, I don't feel like I've been a part of this community for ages,
 and I generally just skim the subject lines  delete the digest emails
 I get so many times each day. There doesn't seem to be much point in
 remaining subscribed.

 If anyone feels like keeping in touch, you can find me here:
 https://www.facebook.com/piratecapnjac
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JohnCelio/
 on reddit.com as /u/neopifex in /r/pentax

 Thanks, everyone, for a decade of Pentaxian fun. May the PDML continue
 for decades to come.

 John Celio



 I always thought PDML was like the Hotel California.  Is it even
 possible to leave?...

 All the best, John.


 Cheers

 Brian

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