Re: EXIF Mystery

[lrc]

Maybe just try Adobe's free raw converter

On July 10, 2017 6:01:40 PM PDT, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>
>> His data shows lens name and lens model, data which is missing from
>images I've taken.
>
>Larry's version of Lightroom is new enough to understand the 28-105
>lens code, and the version he exports to Flickr has the human-readable
>name somewhere in the metadata courtesy of Lightroom doing the lookup.
>
>> I also uploaded a JPG to flickr - it showed no lens data as well, not
>even the lens id code.
>
>Flickr's not keeping their Pentax lens ID database up-to-date enough
>to understand the code in straight-out-of-camera files. They're
>probably barely keeping the lights on there.
>
>> Looks like its time for a warranty repair. At least I have the Tamron
>28-75 as a fall back.
>
>Nah, you just need newer software.
>
>The "8 61" code I found in your EXIF (in my previous email) is the
>correct code for that lens, BTW:
>http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/Pentax.html#LensRec
>
>If you don't believe me, throw a raw file somewhere I can download it,
>and I'll pull it into an up-to-date Lightroom CC. It can be a shot of
>a blank wall.
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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Ken Waller]

Makes a very nice abstract as posted.

The draw for me is the progression of the foreground rocks leading you into 
the image, across the top and then exiting in the URH corner with the wet 
sand pools adjacent to the foreground rocks nicely filling the frame.


Well done.

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- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" 

Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO


It's a nice composition.  It's the kind of thing you might see printed big 
and hung in a boardroom.



On 7/10/2017 2:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one 
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses, 
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented 
positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped 
a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in 
re-composition.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/




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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Mark C]

You're right - I pulled a shot into Pentax's Digital Camera Utility and 
it correctly shows the lens name and other info. So I won't worry about it.


Eventually I might have to update my software...

Mark

Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Mark C  wrote:


His data shows lens name and lens model, data which is missing from images I've 
taken.

Larry's version of Lightroom is new enough to understand the 28-105
lens code, and the version he exports to Flickr has the human-readable
name somewhere in the metadata courtesy of Lightroom doing the lookup.


I also uploaded a JPG to flickr - it showed no lens data as well, not even the 
lens id code.

Flickr's not keeping their Pentax lens ID database up-to-date enough
to understand the code in straight-out-of-camera files. They're
probably barely keeping the lights on there.


Looks like its time for a warranty repair. At least I have the Tamron 28-75 as 
a fall back.

Nah, you just need newer software.

The "8 61" code I found in your EXIF (in my previous email) is the
correct code for that lens, BTW:
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/Pentax.html#LensRec

If you don't believe me, throw a raw file somewhere I can download it,
and I'll pull it into an up-to-date Lightroom CC. It can be a shot of
a blank wall.




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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Mark C]

Yep - checked all my cameras about a week ago. K1 is at v1.41.

Stanley Halpin wrote:

Firmware up to date?


On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:35 AM, Mark C  wrote:

I just noticed that my DFA 28-105 f3.5-5.6 does not show up in EXIF data. I've 
tried it on the K1 and the K3 and in both cases when I view file info in 
Photoshop the lens field in blank. I noticed this because uploads to flickr 
with this lens also do not show any lens data. I tried a couple other EXIF 
viewers with the same result. Both cameras correctly record lens data for other 
lenses.

There are images on flickr that show this lens in the EXIF data (e.g. Larry's 
photostream)... It appears that my specific copy though is not producing EXIF 
info.  I'm wondering if this is something to be concerned about WRT my copy of 
this lens? Aside form this, it has been operating perfectly.

Any thoughts?

Mark

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Edward S. Curtis Exhibit

[Mark C]

I went to Muskegon Michigan today to see an exhibit of Edwin S Curtis's 
North American Indian prints. It was an excellent and massive exhibit, 
well worth a visit.  I doubt that many PDMLer's are nearby, but in case 
anyone is passing that way...


All 723 of Curtis' prints were on display - the full set. The museum 
believes this is the first time the entire set has been displayed. I 
wondered how a fairly small museum got this exhibit and where it would 
go next. As it turns out the Muskegon public library was one of the 200+ 
subscribers to the original project and received the books and 
photogravure prints as they were published. A docent told me that at 
this time there were no plans to travel the show.


My only complaint - 723 prints plus supplemental displays is a bit 
overwhelming - I plan another visit or two over the summer.


Here are a few cell phone snaps of some of the exhibits:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/edward-s-curtis-exhibit?blog=9

And the museums webpage:

http://www.muskegonartmuseum.org/exhibition/edward-s-curtis-north-american-indian/




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Re: PESO: White Echinacea

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks.  With the pink coneflower, I was zooming in to feature the bee, and
the framing cut off much of the flower itself, which was a secondary
element there to me.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 9:12 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> actually _ I like cone flowers in general - but not so much the crop you
> did on the pink one with the bee
>
> you are right though - I'm not into gaudy
>
> ann
>
>
> On 7/10/2017 8:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ann.  I thought you might like these more subtle flowers better
>> than the showy pink coneflowers.
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:07 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>> nice , Dan
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/9/2017 7:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Alan.  I really like the FA 100 macro.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

 On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Alan C  wrote:

 Very nice, Dan. I prefer that to the purple one. Tack sharp too. That

> macro does a good job.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 7:35 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: PESO: White Echinacea
>
>
>   From our pool pation:
> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/
> 7/9/white-echinacea
> K-5 IIs, FA 100mm F2.8 macro
> Comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.
>
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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

What he said.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

On 7/10/2017 6:40 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

It's a pleasant scene with interesting detail and an excellent composition.

Paul via phone


On Jul 10, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

There is a sense of tranquility.

It resembles a zen garden to some extent.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/



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Re: PESO - Tiny Temple

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Thanks, Jack.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

On 7/10/2017 2:25 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

"Tiny temple" certainly dominates
the scene, but I agree with your
choice to shoot the two together.

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 10, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:

Last PESO from 2011 (not necessarily the last GESO).

Accompanies Pillars (shown the other day).


http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/temple.htm

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: PESO: White Echinacea

[ann sanfedele]

actually _ I like cone flowers in general - but not so much the crop you 
did on the pink one with the bee


you are right though - I'm not into gaudy

ann

On 7/10/2017 8:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Ann.  I thought you might like these more subtle flowers better
than the showy pink coneflowers.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:07 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


nice , Dan

ann


On 7/9/2017 7:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks, Alan.  I really like the FA 100 macro.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Alan C  wrote:

Very nice, Dan. I prefer that to the purple one. Tack sharp too. That

macro does a good job.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 7:35 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: PESO: White Echinacea


  From our pool pation:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/
7/9/white-echinacea
K-5 IIs, FA 100mm F2.8 macro
Comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Matthew Hunt]

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> His data shows lens name and lens model, data which is missing from images 
> I've taken.

Larry's version of Lightroom is new enough to understand the 28-105
lens code, and the version he exports to Flickr has the human-readable
name somewhere in the metadata courtesy of Lightroom doing the lookup.

> I also uploaded a JPG to flickr - it showed no lens data as well, not even 
> the lens id code.

Flickr's not keeping their Pentax lens ID database up-to-date enough
to understand the code in straight-out-of-camera files. They're
probably barely keeping the lights on there.

> Looks like its time for a warranty repair. At least I have the Tamron 28-75 
> as a fall back.

Nah, you just need newer software.

The "8 61" code I found in your EXIF (in my previous email) is the
correct code for that lens, BTW:
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/Pentax.html#LensRec

If you don't believe me, throw a raw file somewhere I can download it,
and I'll pull it into an up-to-date Lightroom CC. It can be a shot of
a blank wall.

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Re: Peso-Red Tail

[Jack Davis]

Generous remarks, Dan.
Thanks!

J

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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 5:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> That is a super shot!  I love the posture you captured and the fine extent
> of detail.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
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> 
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
>> Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.
>> 
>> C?
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407009
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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

[Jack Davis]

That is odd, John. Sorry if it was
a bit confusing.

J


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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 5:39 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Oddly enough, the link in the first post worked just fine. It's the link
> in the second post that gives me the 404 error.
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 18:59, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Yes, I would assume they were
>> different as the successful post
>> was sent later.
>> Thanks for the, "not bad."
>> 
>> J
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:51 PM, P. J. Alling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I looked at the image that Marnie commented on.  The two URLs are 
>>> different.  It's not bad.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7/10/2017 6:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 P. J. did you ever receive a the
 Wild Oats image?
 
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:05 PM, P. J. Alling  
> wrote:
> 
> Getting a 404 error.
> 
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 3:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> Shown in the dim past, but thought it worth a second look. (?)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> Mamyia6
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407086
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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

[John]

Oddly enough, the link in the first post worked just fine. It's the link
in the second post that gives me the 404 error.

On 7/10/2017 18:59, Jack Davis wrote:

Yes, I would assume they were
different as the successful post
was sent later.
Thanks for the, "not bad."

J
Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:51 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

I looked at the image that Marnie commented on.  The two URLs are different.  
It's not bad.



On 7/10/2017 6:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
P. J. did you ever receive a the
Wild Oats image?

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:05 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

Getting a 404 error.



On 7/10/2017 3:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Shown in the dim past, but thought it worth a second look. (?)



C

Mamyia6

J

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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Mark C]

Thanks, Igor. The contacts on the lens look fine. Since this problem 
only happens with this lens and appears on multiple bodies, it clearly 
is the lens that is at issue. Since flicker shows a lot of exif info I 
compared what it shows for shots with my lens verses Larry's copy of the 
same lens. His data shows lens name and lens model, data which is 
missing from images I've taken. His also shows subject to lens distance, 
which also is missing from mine. The only piece of lens specific data I 
could find in my images was the Lens ID code, which appears to be 
correct (at least the same as others.)


I also uploaded a JPG to flickr - it showed no lens data as well, not 
even the lens id code.


I still have the very first image I took with this lens and it is the 
same - no lens data.


Looks like its time for a warranty repair. At least I have the Tamron 
28-75 as a fall back.


Mark

Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Hi Mark,

Here are my thoughts (but you might have already had all of them 
yourself..)
Your photoshop could have a problem if it's RAW module version is 
older than the lens. But since Flickr doesn't show that name either, 
I'd assume it is not there.
(A slim chance if that PS strips it out ... So, a good test would be 
to take one shot in JPEG, and upload it as is, without opening in PS, 
LR, or whatever.)


So, the culprit is likely to be in the lens hardware.
AFAIK, the lens ID is encoded by an electric contact on the lens.
Unfortunately, upon a quick search, I was unable to find which of the 
contacts resonsible for it.


You can just check that contact (or all of them). If it has some 
grease or goo on it, that might prevent it from working.
I would try using a q-tip lightly soaked (not dripping) in isopropanol 
or methanol or ethanol (I am usually using "rubbing alcohol" - that's 
70% or so isopropanol - it is also good for removing pencil marks from 
the wall paint if used carefully -- it can also remove the paint).


One more thought: I've never worked on those contacts, but I've 
successfully used pencil erasers on the hot-shoe contacts. with the 
lens, however, I'd be concerned not to get any rubber crumbles onto 
the back elements and ultimately inside camera/on the sensor.


Good luck!

Igor




Mark C Mon, 10 Jul 2017 07:36:48 -0700 wrote:

I just noticed that my DFA 28-105 f3.5-5.6 does not show up in EXIF 
data. I've tried it on the K1 and the K3 and in both cases when I view 
file info in Photoshop the lens field in blank. I noticed this because 
uploads to flickr with this lens also do not show any lens data. I 
tried a couple other EXIF viewers with the same result. Both cameras 
correctly record lens data for other lenses.



There are images on flickr that show this lens in the EXIF data (e.g. 
Larry's photostream)... It appears that my specific copy though is not 
producing EXIF info. I'm wondering if this is something to be 
concerned about WRT my copy of this lens? Aside form this, it has been 
operating perfectly.



Any thoughts?

Mark




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Re: PESO: White Echinacea

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann.  I thought you might like these more subtle flowers better
than the showy pink coneflowers.


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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:07 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> nice , Dan
>
> ann
>
>
> On 7/9/2017 7:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Alan.  I really like the FA 100 macro.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
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>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>>
>> Very nice, Dan. I prefer that to the purple one. Tack sharp too. That
>>> macro does a good job.
>>>
>>> Alan C
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 7:35 PM
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>>> Subject: PESO: White Echinacea
>>>
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>>>  From our pool pation:
>>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/
>>> 7/9/white-echinacea
>>> K-5 IIs, FA 100mm F2.8 macro
>>> Comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.
>>>
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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Matthew Hunt]

In the Pentax system, the lens doesn't report a readable name to the
camera, but reports a couple of unique numbers that are recorded in the
EXIF. Your software then has to be updated to map those numbers to the
user-readable name of the lens. According to this page:
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/supported-lenses.html#Pentax
support for the 28-105 was added in Camera Raw 9.6. Do you have at least
that version?

Actually, I'll answer my own question... I used Jeffrey's EXIF viewer:
http://exif.regex.info/exif.cgi
on your (lovely) recent photo:
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2017/17-07-09/mccp8125_tu2.jpg?mtime=1499635572
and the EXIF dump says you're using Camera Raw 9.1.1, so that's why it
can't decode the lens code.

If you look at Jeffrey's EXIF dump, near the top, you'll see "Lens: 8 61".
Those are the two numbers that identify the lens. So Jeffrey's library
(exiftool or something?) doesn't properly decode it either, but the field
is being populated by the lens and camera--it doesn't look like a
malfunction to me.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Mark C  wrote:

> I just noticed that my DFA 28-105 f3.5-5.6 does not show up in EXIF data.
> I've tried it on the K1 and the K3 and in both cases when I view file info
> in Photoshop the lens field in blank. I noticed this because uploads to
> flickr with this lens also do not show any lens data. I tried a couple
> other EXIF viewers with the same result. Both cameras correctly record lens
> data for other lenses.
>
> There are images on flickr that show this lens in the EXIF data (e.g.
> Larry's photostream)... It appears that my specific copy though is not
> producing EXIF info.  I'm wondering if this is something to be concerned
> about WRT my copy of this lens? Aside form this, it has been operating
> perfectly.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Mark
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Re: Peso-Red Tail

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a super shot!  I love the posture you captured and the fine extent
of detail.


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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
> At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
> Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.
>
> C?
>
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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Paul in MKE]

Damn - forgot to hit Reply List...hope this gets it back on track.

I think it was better with the water included.  It needs the wider view 
to emphasize the line of the rocks leading to the water and loses 
something with just the rocks and sand.


-p


On 7/10/2017 6:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Paul in MKE wrote:

Larry,

I like this a lot, but agree with Rick that you should crop out some of
the sky.  I liked putting the horizon about 1/3 down from the top, but
you need to be content about losing the 3:2 aspect ratio - don't take
anything off the sides.


Thanks Paul.  After Rick's post I slightly tweaked a copy to trim the 
little bit of water (actually a creek, not the ocean) out of the top:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35840242545/in/album-72157685968095156/ 



full set:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157685968095156



-p


On 7/10/2017 11:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Rick Womer wrote:

Larry, that's beautiful. The curving line on rocks and the quiet beach
are very tranquil;, the pools with the blue reflections are very
intriguing.

My only suggestion would be to trim a bit off the top; the thin strip
of ocean is distracting.


Thank you very much.  I struggled a lot with where to crop the top of
that one, because when I trimmed the top like that, particularly if I
kept the 3:2 aspect ratio, I lost a bit more of something else.



Cheers,

Rick
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A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This
is one
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and 
weaknesses,
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just 
commented

positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I
cropped a
lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/


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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Stanley Halpin]

Firmware up to date?

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:35 AM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> I just noticed that my DFA 28-105 f3.5-5.6 does not show up in EXIF data. 
> I've tried it on the K1 and the K3 and in both cases when I view file info in 
> Photoshop the lens field in blank. I noticed this because uploads to flickr 
> with this lens also do not show any lens data. I tried a couple other EXIF 
> viewers with the same result. Both cameras correctly record lens data for 
> other lenses.
> 
> There are images on flickr that show this lens in the EXIF data (e.g. Larry's 
> photostream)... It appears that my specific copy though is not producing EXIF 
> info.  I'm wondering if this is something to be concerned about WRT my copy 
> of this lens? Aside form this, it has been operating perfectly.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Mark
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Re: PESO LBB

[Larry Colen]

ann sanfedele wrote:

Cliff swallow for sure, say I...


Thanks Ann, that certainly seems to be the consensus.



ann

On 7/10/2017 8:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Perhaps cliff swallows
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Cliff_Swallow/id
or a similar species.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


I saw some little brown birds with mud nests in a gazebo near the Oregon
coast:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35700256991/in/album-
7215768336043/

If anyone wants to have a go at IDing them more precisely than LBB, the
whole set is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215768336043

It's cool the way the babies have the yellow on the inside of their
beaks
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/34992522174/in/album-
7215768336043/

They were shot with the bigma on the K-3. I don't know why all the shots
were so hazy, yes it was shady, but I wasn't shooting into the sun or
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Re: Peso-Red Tail

[Jack Davis]

I did my usual detail check by
pulling it up a bit. I began to
lose the sharp edges fairly
quickly.
Wish it had been shot with the 150-450.

J


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:05 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I wouldnt' crop it 'tighter"  -  looks like you cropped it some, as the k-r5 
> doen't yield square format ..
> 
> maybe a bit off the top --  nailed the focus opbviously :-)
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 4:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Thanks, Larry!
>> Appreciated comment, but I checked that possibility prior to posting
>> and decided to leave that up to the viewer.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Larry Colen" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:59:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: Peso-Red Tail
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jack Davis wrote:
>>> At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
>>> Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.
>>> 
>>> C?
>> Great shot, I think its clear enough that it could be cropped a lot tighter.
>> 
>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407009
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Re: PESO: White Echinacea

[ann sanfedele]

nice , Dan

ann

On 7/9/2017 7:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Alan.  I really like the FA 100 macro.

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On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Alan C  wrote:


Very nice, Dan. I prefer that to the purple one. Tack sharp too. That
macro does a good job.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 7:35 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: PESO: White Echinacea


 From our pool pation:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/
7/9/white-echinacea
K-5 IIs, FA 100mm F2.8 macro
Comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

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Re: Peso-Red Tail

[ann sanfedele]

I wouldnt' crop it 'tighter"  -  looks like you cropped it some, as the 
k-r5 doen't yield square format ..


maybe a bit off the top --  nailed the focus opbviously :-)

ann

On 7/10/2017 4:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks, Larry!
Appreciated comment, but I checked that possibility prior to posting
and decided to leave that up to the viewer.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Larry Colen" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:59:36 PM
Subject: Re: Peso-Red Tail



Jack Davis wrote:

At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.

C?

Great shot, I think its clear enough that it could be cropped a lot tighter.



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Re: PESO LBB

[ann sanfedele]

Cliff swallow for sure, say I...

ann

On 7/10/2017 8:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Perhaps cliff swallows
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Cliff_Swallow/id
or a similar species.


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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


I saw some little brown birds with mud nests in a gazebo near the Oregon
coast:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35700256991/in/album-
7215768336043/

If anyone wants to have a go at IDing them more precisely than LBB, the
whole set is here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215768336043

It's cool the way the babies have the yellow on the inside of their beaks
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/34992522174/in/album-
7215768336043/

They were shot with the bigma on the K-3. I don't know why all the shots
were so hazy, yes it was shady, but I wasn't shooting into the sun or
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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

[Jack Davis]

Yes, I would assume they were
different as the successful post
was sent later.
Thanks for the, "not bad."

J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:51 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I looked at the image that Marnie commented on.  The two URLs are different.  
> It's not bad.
> 
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 6:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> P. J. did you ever receive a the
>> Wild Oats image?
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:05 PM, P. J. Alling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Getting a 404 error.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7/10/2017 3:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
 Shown in the dim past, but thought it worth a second look. (?)
 
 
 
 C
 
 Mamyia6
 
 J
 
 https://www.photo.net/photo/18407086
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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

[P. J. Alling]

I looked at the image that Marnie commented on.  The two URLs are 
different.  It's not bad.



On 7/10/2017 6:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

P. J. did you ever receive a the
Wild Oats image?

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:05 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

Getting a 404 error.



On 7/10/2017 3:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Shown in the dim past, but thought it worth a second look. (?)



C

Mamyia6

J

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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

[Jack Davis]

P. J. did you ever receive a the
Wild Oats image?

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:05 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Getting a 404 error.
> 
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 3:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> Shown in the dim past, but thought it worth a second look. (?)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> Mamyia6
>> 
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>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407086
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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

[Jack Davis]

I did also initially but sent it again
and got a compliment on it from
Marnie.
I, also, have received the good post.(?)

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:05 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Getting a 404 error.
> 
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 3:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> Shown in the dim past, but thought it worth a second look. (?)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> Mamyia6
>> 
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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Larry Colen]

P. J. Alling wrote:

It's a nice composition. It's the kind of thing you might see printed
big and hung in a boardroom.


Thanks




On 7/10/2017 2:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it. This is
one that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and
weaknesses, which is why I didn't post it earlier. However a friend
just commented positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it
a try. I cropped a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of
latitude in re-composition.

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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

[P. J. Alling]

Getting a 404 error.


On 7/10/2017 3:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


Shown in the dim past, but thought it worth a second look. (?)



C

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J

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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[P. J. Alling]

It's a nice composition.  It's the kind of thing you might see printed 
big and hung in a boardroom.



On 7/10/2017 2:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is 
one that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and 
weaknesses, which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend 
just commented positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it 
a try.  I cropped a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of 
latitude in re-composition.


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Re: PESO - Tiny Temple

[Jack Davis]

"Tiny temple" certainly dominates 
the scene, but I agree with your
choice to shoot the two together.

J

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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
> 
> Last PESO from 2011 (not necessarily the last GESO).
> 
> Accompanies Pillars (shown the other day).
> 
> 
> http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/temple.htm
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
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Re: Peso-Red Tail

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Generous, Marnie!
Thanks!

J

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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
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> Great shot.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 12:52 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
>> Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.
>> 
>> C?
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407009
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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

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Much appreciated Marnie!
I shot this with the camera on a
very low tripod to emphasize the
wild oats.  Hence the leaning away
barn, I suppose.

J

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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
> 
> Nice one. Like the way the barn leans and the weeds sway.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 1:16 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Shot with a Mamiya6/50mm lens.
>> What a great camera!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407129
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PESO - Tiny Temple

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Last PESO from 2011 (not necessarily the last GESO).

Accompanies Pillars (shown the other day).


http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/temple.htm

Comments welcome.

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Re: Peso-Red Tail

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Great shot.

Marnie aka Doe

On 7/10/2017 12:52 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.

C?

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Re: Peso-Wild Oats

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Nice one. Like the way the barn leans and the weeds sway.

Marnie aka Doe

On 7/10/2017 1:16 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Shot with a Mamiya6/50mm lens.
What a great camera!

J

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Peso-Wild Oats

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Shot with a Mamiya6/50mm lens.
What a great camera!

J

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Re: Peso-Red Tail

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Thanks, Larry!
Appreciated comment, but I checked that possibility prior to posting
and decided to leave that up to the viewer.

J

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Jack Davis wrote:
> At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
> Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.
>
> C?

Great shot, I think its clear enough that it could be cropped a lot tighter.


>
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> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407009
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Re: Peso-Red Tail

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Jack Davis wrote:

At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.

C?


Great shot, I think its clear enough that it could be cropped a lot tighter.




J

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Peso-Red Tail

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At the local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
Likely taken with a K-5/DA 55~300.

C?

J

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July 4th in LA

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Short time-lapse video of 4th of July fireworks in Los Angeles, shot
from Mount Wilson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rvp-M7olDA

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Peso-Wild Oats

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Shown in the dim past, but thought it worth a second look. (?)



C

Mamyia6

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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi Mark,

Here are my thoughts (but you might have already had all of them 
yourself..)
Your photoshop could have a problem if it's RAW module version is older 
than the lens. But since Flickr doesn't show that name either, I'd assume 
it is not there.
(A slim chance if that PS strips it out ... So, a good test would be to 
take one shot in JPEG, and upload it as is, without opening in PS, LR, or 
whatever.)


So, the culprit is likely to be in the lens hardware.
AFAIK, the lens ID is encoded by an electric contact on the lens.
Unfortunately, upon a quick search, I was unable to find which of the 
contacts resonsible for it.


You can just check that contact (or all of them). If it has some grease or 
goo on it, that might prevent it from working.
I would try using a q-tip lightly soaked (not dripping) in isopropanol or 
methanol or ethanol (I am usually using "rubbing alcohol" - that's 70% or 
so isopropanol - it is also good for removing pencil marks from the wall 
paint if used carefully -- it can also remove the paint).


One more thought: I've never worked on those contacts, but I've 
successfully used pencil erasers on the hot-shoe contacts. with the lens, 
however, I'd be concerned not to get any rubber crumbles onto the back 
elements and ultimately inside camera/on the sensor.


Good luck!

Igor




Mark C Mon, 10 Jul 2017 07:36:48 -0700 wrote:

I just noticed that my DFA 28-105 f3.5-5.6 does not show up in EXIF data. 
I've tried it on the K1 and the K3 and in both cases when I view file info 
in Photoshop the lens field in blank. I noticed this because uploads to 
flickr with this lens also do not show any lens data. I tried a couple 
other EXIF viewers with the same result. Both cameras correctly record 
lens data for other lenses.



There are images on flickr that show this lens in the EXIF data (e.g. 
Larry's photostream)... It appears that my specific copy though is not 
producing EXIF info. I'm wondering if this is something to be concerned 
about WRT my copy of this lens? Aside form this, it has been operating 
perfectly.



Any thoughts?

Mark

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Re: PESO - Another moss macro

[Jostein]

Den 10.07.2017 00.04, skrev Steve Cottrell:

On 7/7/17, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.alunfoto.no/bloggposter/2017/07/paeremokkmose/


Already told you how good this is ;-)


Glad you did! :-)
And glad I got back to the cabin exactly on time for the second moss' 
sporehouses to emerge.


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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Larry Colen]

Alan C wrote:

Next time you bump into Larry, do a clandestine swap!


That's why I engraved my initials into the front element.



Alan C

-Original Message- From: Mark C
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 4:35 PM
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Subject: EXIF Mystery

I just noticed that my DFA 28-105 f3.5-5.6 does not show up in EXIF
data. I've tried it on the K1 and the K3 and in both cases when I view
file info in Photoshop the lens field in blank. I noticed this because
uploads to flickr with this lens also do not show any lens data. I tried
a couple other EXIF viewers with the same result. Both cameras correctly
record lens data for other lenses.

There are images on flickr that show this lens in the EXIF data (e.g.
Larry's photostream)... It appears that my specific copy though is not
producing EXIF info. I'm wondering if this is something to be concerned
about WRT my copy of this lens? Aside form this, it has been operating
perfectly.

Any thoughts?

Mark



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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Larry Colen]

Thanks Dan, also Paul, and others who looked or will look.

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

There is a sense of tranquility.

It resembles a zen garden to some extent.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/


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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

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Rick Womer wrote:

Larry, that's beautiful. The curving line on rocks and the quiet beach
are very tranquil;, the pools with the blue reflections are very
intriguing.

My only suggestion would be to trim a bit off the top; the thin strip
of ocean is distracting.


Thank you very much.  I struggled a lot with where to crop the top of 
that one, because when I trimmed the top like that, particularly if I 
kept the 3:2 aspect ratio, I lost a bit more of something else.




Cheers,

Rick
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/


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Re: Photo.net Strangeness!

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Paul and Rick. I 'll let it cool
off and sneak another try or two.
Wish I had a better plan. :(

J

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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Photo.net has been working okay for me since I figured it out. Some things 
> are still not quite right, but it is functional. I don’t want to switch. I 
> have 6000 images on photo.net.
> Paul
>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> Photo.net got badly broken wit the "upgrade" a few months ago. Nothing
>> seems to be getting fixed.  The webmaster, Glenn Palmer, vanished
>> mid-March. Forum messages and emails aren't being answered.
>> 
>> So, don't hold your breath. I switched to SmugMug. Good luck.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:26 Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A couple odd Photo.net happenings.
>>> Unable to upload images for posting.
>>> Careful review of details and multiple attempts without success.
>>> Also, deleted a Portfolio image and just noticed it's back in the
>>> portfolio. ?
>>> 
>>> Anyone?
>>> 
>>> J
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Re: Photo.net Strangeness!

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Photo.net has been working okay for me since I figured it out. Some things are 
still not quite right, but it is functional. I don’t want to switch. I have 
6000 images on photo.net.
Paul
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Photo.net got badly broken wit the "upgrade" a few months ago. Nothing
> seems to be getting fixed.  The webmaster, Glenn Palmer, vanished
> mid-March. Forum messages and emails aren't being answered.
> 
> So, don't hold your breath. I switched to SmugMug. Good luck.
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:26 Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> A couple odd Photo.net happenings.
>> Unable to upload images for posting.
>> Careful review of details and multiple attempts without success.
>> Also, deleted a Portfolio image and just noticed it's back in the
>> portfolio. ?
>> 
>> Anyone?
>> 
>> J
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Re: Photo.net Strangeness!

[Rick Womer]

Photo.net got badly broken wit the "upgrade" a few months ago. Nothing
seems to be getting fixed.  The webmaster, Glenn Palmer, vanished
mid-March. Forum messages and emails aren't being answered.

So, don't hold your breath. I switched to SmugMug. Good luck.

Rick

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:26 Jack Davis  wrote:

>
>
> A couple odd Photo.net happenings.
> Unable to upload images for posting.
> Careful review of details and multiple attempts without success.
> Also, deleted a Portfolio image and just noticed it's back in the
> portfolio. ?
>
> Anyone?
>
> J
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Photo.net Strangeness!

[Jack Davis]

A couple odd Photo.net happenings.
Unable to upload images for posting.
Careful review of details and multiple attempts without success.
Also, deleted a Portfolio image and just noticed it's back in the portfolio. 
?

Anyone?

J

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Re: EXIF Mystery

[Alan C]

Next time you bump into Larry, do a clandestine swap!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Mark C

Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 4:35 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: EXIF Mystery

I just noticed that my DFA 28-105 f3.5-5.6 does not show up in EXIF
data. I've tried it on the K1 and the K3 and in both cases when I view
file info in Photoshop the lens field in blank. I noticed this because
uploads to flickr with this lens also do not show any lens data. I tried
a couple other EXIF viewers with the same result. Both cameras correctly
record lens data for other lenses.

There are images on flickr that show this lens in the EXIF data (e.g.
Larry's photostream)... It appears that my specific copy though is not
producing EXIF info.  I'm wondering if this is something to be concerned
about WRT my copy of this lens? Aside form this, it has been operating
perfectly.

Any thoughts?

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EXIF Mystery

[Mark C]

I just noticed that my DFA 28-105 f3.5-5.6 does not show up in EXIF 
data. I've tried it on the K1 and the K3 and in both cases when I view 
file info in Photoshop the lens field in blank. I noticed this because 
uploads to flickr with this lens also do not show any lens data. I tried 
a couple other EXIF viewers with the same result. Both cameras correctly 
record lens data for other lenses.


There are images on flickr that show this lens in the EXIF data (e.g. 
Larry's photostream)... It appears that my specific copy though is not 
producing EXIF info.  I'm wondering if this is something to be concerned 
about WRT my copy of this lens? Aside form this, it has been operating 
perfectly.


Any thoughts?

Mark

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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Rick Womer]

Larry, that's beautiful. The curving line on rocks and the quiet beach
are very tranquil;, the pools with the blue reflections are very
intriguing.

My only suggestion would be to trim a bit off the top; the thin strip
of ocean is distracting.

Cheers,

Rick
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
> that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
> which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
> positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
> lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
> re-composition.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/
>
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Re: July PUG is up

[Steve Cottrell]

On 4/7/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A smaller gallery this month but lots to like.
>
>As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>
>http://pug.komkon.org/

Small but perfectly formed.

I particularly like Rick's and Dan's offerings.



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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Paul Stenquist]

It's a pleasant scene with interesting detail and an excellent composition.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> There is a sense of tranquility.
> 
> It resembles a zen garden to some extent.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
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>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
>> that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
>> which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
>> positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
>> lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
>> re-composition.
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/
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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Daniel J. Matyola]

There is a sense of tranquility.

It resembles a zen garden to some extent.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
> that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
> which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
> positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
> lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
> re-composition.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/
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Re: PESO LBB

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Perhaps cliff swallows
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Cliff_Swallow/id
or a similar species.


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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:11 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> I saw some little brown birds with mud nests in a gazebo near the Oregon
> coast:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35700256991/in/album-
> 7215768336043/
>
> If anyone wants to have a go at IDing them more precisely than LBB, the
> whole set is here:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215768336043
>
> It's cool the way the babies have the yellow on the inside of their beaks
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/34992522174/in/album-
> 7215768336043/
>
> They were shot with the bigma on the K-3. I don't know why all the shots
> were so hazy, yes it was shady, but I wasn't shooting into the sun or
> anything.
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PESO LBB

[Larry Colen]

I saw some little brown birds with mud nests in a gazebo near the Oregon 
coast:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35700256991/in/album-7215768336043/

If anyone wants to have a go at IDing them more precisely than LBB, the 
whole set is here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215768336043

It's cool the way the babies have the yellow on the inside of their beaks
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/34992522174/in/album-7215768336043/

They were shot with the bigma on the K-3. I don't know why all the shots 
were so hazy, yes it was shady, but I wasn't shooting into the sun or 
anything.

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Looking for feedback on a PESO

[Larry Colen]

A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is 
one that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and 
weaknesses, which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend 
just commented positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a 
try.  I cropped a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of 
latitude in re-composition.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/


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