Re: Did not make the photo annual cut ...

[mike wilson]

> On 16 May 2018 at 06:50 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bruce Walker wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Bill  wrote:
> >> On 5/14/2018 5:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Let's see what shots of yours did not make it into the 2018 PDML
> >>> Annual.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the one of mine that didn't make the cut: "Dancer, seated"
> >>
> >> Yeah, I remember punting that one...
> >>>
> >>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GRxwiW8gVQx4/IsYE80yE9V.g
> >
> >Punting is a good thing, right? I've never been a sports fan so I'm
> >not too good with baseball metaphors.
> 
> Obviously you don't know anything about punting. It's a nautical
> pastime favoured by students at Oxford. Cotty will tell you all about
> it.

There are loads of punts in Cambridge, too.

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Re: Did not make the photo annual cut ...

[Mark Roberts]

Bruce Walker wrote:

>On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Bill  wrote:
>> On 5/14/2018 5:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Let's see what shots of yours did not make it into the 2018 PDML
>>> Annual.
>>>
>>> Here's the one of mine that didn't make the cut: "Dancer, seated"
>>
>> Yeah, I remember punting that one...
>>>
>>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GRxwiW8gVQx4/IsYE80yE9V.g
>
>Punting is a good thing, right? I've never been a sports fan so I'm
>not too good with baseball metaphors.

Obviously you don't know anything about punting. It's a nautical
pastime favoured by students at Oxford. Cotty will tell you all about
it.
 
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Re: SD Card Question

[Alan C]

Thanks, Igor, for that erudite explanation.

I'll try an Ultra Plus. No point in going higher than that.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Igor PDML-StR

Sent: 16 May, 2018 5:20 AM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD Card Question



Alan,

I was looking at this question at some point (I am still using K-5
iiS). Let me share a few thoughts.

First, you should be aware that different categories/lines of SanDisk
cards change their parameters over time. I.e. Extreme today is different
from Extreme 4 years ago. You are probably aware of that, but I thought
I'd mention this just in case.

Second, yes, you've already figured out, K5 can benefit from the speed of
just below 30 Mbps. But, when the card is rated at 30 Mbps, that is only
for the specific type of writing (large blocks, sequential, ...)
For smaller block sizes and some other conditions, - the speed goes down
drastically.
A good tool for checking that is CrystalDiskMark.
Here is an example of its test output (For *some* SanDisk Extreme Pro, -
maybe not the latest, - that doesn't matteR):
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5400/sandisk-extreme-pro-sdhc-and-microsdhc-memory-card-review/index.html
I am referring to this image:
https://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/content/5/4/5400_10_sandisk_extreme_pro_sdhc_and_microsdhc_memory_card_review.jpg

You can see that 512K write speed is only a small portion of the "Seq"
test. (I was expecting about a half, - I suspect something might be wrong
here, but anyway... this is just what I quickly googled as an example.)

My point is that under some conditions, you might even benefit from a card
that is yet faster than 30 Mbps, because of the slower type of operations.

My best card for K-5 iiS is Samsung Pro (SDXC, I, Class 10, U1)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IVPU6BY/
(I believe it is discontinued now.)

While nominally, with the *up-to* 80 Mb/s write speed, it seems like an
overkill, it seems to me that the card a step below sometimes creates a
bottleneck, especially with video recording.

An additional consideration: You can also benefit from the card's speed in
the card reader. If you have a USB-3 card reader (with the proper bus), -
you can copy the files from it much faster.

HTH,

Igor



Alan C Tue, 15 May 2018 11:28:51 -0700 wrote:

Thanks, PJ

That seems to settle it. The K5 bus allows a write speed of 25Mb/s so an
Extreme Plus (30Mb/s) would do better than the Ultra (10Mb/s) which I
have. Only the newer models like the K3 & K1 can take advantage of Extreme
Pro cards.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: P. J. Alling

Sent: 15 May, 2018 7:49 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD Card Question

This article seems to indicate a higher bus speed for K3 and a few more
recent aps-c models, but other testing seems to show it closer to my
original reply.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/comprehensive-sd-card-guide.html


On 5/15/2018 9:10 AM, Alan C wrote:

ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but
would the a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?


The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable
higher write speed would be quite helpful.


Alan C

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Re: SD Card Question

[Alan C]

Thanks, John


From Ultra Plus upwards it would make no difference. The Ultra is slower.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: John

Sent: 16 May, 2018 3:47 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD Card Question

I don't think it makes any difference. Comparing four 32GB cards (new & old
Extreme + Ultra + Extreme Pro) they all seem to have a transfer speed 
greater

than the K5's write speed.

SanDisk Extreme 32GB SDHC UHS-I Card [Old Version]  $18.95 USD
90 MB/S

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-I-SDSDXNE-032G-GNCIN-Version/dp/B013CP3KZ6

https://tinyurl.com/y9lmtuxk

SanDisk Extreme 32GB 90 Mb/s SDHC UHS-I Card [Newest Version] $18.45 USD
90 MB/S

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-SDSDXVE-032G-GNCIN-Newest-Version/dp/B01LORO7Z6/

https://tinyurl.com/y89wsdva

SanDisk 32GB Ultra Class 10 SDHC UHS-I $12.99 USD
80 MB/S

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Class-Memory-SDSDUNC-032G-GN6IN/dp/B0143RT8OY

https://tinyurl.com/lsdzrz2

SanDisk Extreme PRO 32GB up to 95MB/s UHS-I/U3 SDHC $26.43 USD
95 MB/S

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-I-Flash-Memory/dp/B005LFT3QG

https://tinyurl.com/y7stb3ps

Seems to me the K5 would operate at its maximum write speed with any of 
these

cards or am I missing something?


On 5/15/2018 14:27, Alan C wrote:

Thanks, PJ

That seems to settle it. The K5 bus allows a write speed of 25Mb/s so an 
Extreme Plus (30Mb/s) would do better than the Ultra (10Mb/s) which I 
have. Only the newer models like the K3 & K1 can take advantage of Extreme 
Pro cards.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: P. J. Alling
Sent: 15 May, 2018 7:49 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD Card Question

This article seems to indicate a higher bus speed for K3 and a few more
recent aps-c models, but other testing seems to show it closer to my
original reply.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/comprehensive-sd-card-guide.html


On 5/15/2018 9:10 AM, Alan C wrote:
ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but would 
the a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?


The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable higher 
write speed would be quite helpful.


Alan C

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Re: A mixed bag for Mother's Day

[Alan C]

Thanks, Subash.

Yes, a young Drongo - bold birds. It will loose those white markings on the 
next moult.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Subash Jeyan

Sent: 16 May, 2018 4:48 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: GESO: A mixed bag for Mother's Day

enjoyed the series. is the first one a drongo? no.9 (herd of elephants)
is quite dramatic...


On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:37:35 +0200
"Alan C"  wrote:


Being Mother's day, we went to the Letaba Camp picnic spot for a
lunchtime braai. I took a few shots along the way:

Scroll L to see the 9 images.

The first 4 are of birds looking for tasty morsels at the picnic
spot. There were also monkeys, squirrels & noisy francolin but I
didn't get those. No 5 is a tatty Zebra White butterfly on a wild
flower. No 6 is a Jacobin Cuckoo Fledgling which was being fed by its
much smaller Arrow Marked Babbler host.
No 7 shows the critically low level of the Letaba River which didn't
flood this year.
No 8 is a young Ellie crossing the road with a Mopane branch in its
mouth. The bark is a sort of Ellie chewing gum.
No 9 is a herd of Elephants cavorting at the North end of Sable Dam &
blocking the road.  When those two young bulls started advancing
towards us, we decided it was time to beat a hasty retreat. This is
the same place where I was "trapped" between over 100 Elephants
earlier this year.

We had a wonderful outing & saw of other stuff too.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/40273437520/


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Re: PESO: indian darter

[Alan C]

A great image, Subash. A close relation of the Cormorant.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Subash Jeyan

Sent: 16 May, 2018 4:22 AM
To: pdml
Subject: PESO: indian darter

a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:

https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/

the indian darter, which according to the IUCN is a near-threatened
species. cropped image.

i had taken my friend's FA* 300/4.5. i really liked how the lens
handled but unfortunately i have to give it back...

comments, if any, are appreciated.

~subash

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Re: Did not make the photo annual cut ...

[William Robb]

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:33 PM  wrote:

> On any case Bill is certainly the list punter.


Be nice or I will insert a picture of a puppy in your name next year.

bill

>
>
> On May 15, 2018 4:29:33 PM PDT, Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
> >On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Bill 
> >wrote:
> >> On 5/14/2018 5:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Let's see what shots of yours did not make it into the 2018 PDML
> >>> Annual.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the one of mine that didn't make the cut: "Dancer, seated"
> >>
> >> Yeah, I remember punting that one...
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GRxwiW8gVQx4/IsYE80yE9V.g
> >
> >Punting is a good thing, right? I've never been a sports fan so I'm
> >not too good with baseball metaphors.
> >
> >;-)
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Re: indian darter

[Ken Waller]

Very nice capture, great DOF - the 300 FA is one of my most used lenses - I 
really appreciate it's close focusing ability.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Subash Jeyan" 

Subject: PESO: indian darter



a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:

https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/

the indian darter, which according to the IUCN is a near-threatened
species. cropped image.

i had taken my friend's FA* 300/4.5. i really liked how the lens
handled but unfortunately i have to give it back...

comments, if any, are appreciated.

~subash



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Re: PESO: indian darter

[Jack Davis]

Impressive image, Subash!
J


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> thank you Paul and Dan, for the nice  words
> 
> 
> On Tue, 15 May 2018 22:39:53 -0400
> "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
>> Great image, Subash!  I lover the geometry, and the way that the
>> sleek body of the bird imitates the shape and color of the bare
>> branches that frame it so adeptly.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Subash Jeyan 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:
>>> 
>>> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/
>>> 
> 
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Re: SD Card Question

[Igor PDML-StR]

Alan,

I was looking at this question at some point (I am still using K-5 
iiS). Let me share a few thoughts.


First, you should be aware that different categories/lines of SanDisk
cards change their parameters over time. I.e. Extreme today is different 
from Extreme 4 years ago. You are probably aware of that, but I thought 
I'd mention this just in case.


Second, yes, you've already figured out, K5 can benefit from the speed of 
just below 30 Mbps. But, when the card is rated at 30 Mbps, that is only 
for the specific type of writing (large blocks, sequential, ...)
For smaller block sizes and some other conditions, - the speed goes down 
drastically.

A good tool for checking that is CrystalDiskMark.
Here is an example of its test output (For *some* SanDisk Extreme Pro, - 
maybe not the latest, - that doesn't matteR):

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5400/sandisk-extreme-pro-sdhc-and-microsdhc-memory-card-review/index.html
I am referring to this image:
https://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/content/5/4/5400_10_sandisk_extreme_pro_sdhc_and_microsdhc_memory_card_review.jpg

You can see that 512K write speed is only a small portion of the "Seq" 
test. (I was expecting about a half, - I suspect something might be wrong 
here, but anyway... this is just what I quickly googled as an example.)


My point is that under some conditions, you might even benefit from a card 
that is yet faster than 30 Mbps, because of the slower type of operations.


My best card for K-5 iiS is Samsung Pro (SDXC, I, Class 10, U1) 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IVPU6BY/

(I believe it is discontinued now.)

While nominally, with the *up-to* 80 Mb/s write speed, it seems like an 
overkill, it seems to me that the card a step below sometimes creates a 
bottleneck, especially with video recording.


An additional consideration: You can also benefit from the card's speed in 
the card reader. If you have a USB-3 card reader (with the proper bus), -

you can copy the files from it much faster.

HTH,

Igor



Alan C Tue, 15 May 2018 11:28:51 -0700 wrote:

Thanks, PJ

That seems to settle it. The K5 bus allows a write speed of 25Mb/s so an 
Extreme Plus (30Mb/s) would do better than the Ultra (10Mb/s) which I 
have. Only the newer models like the K3 & K1 can take advantage of Extreme 
Pro cards.



Alan C

-Original Message- From: P. J. Alling

Sent: 15 May, 2018 7:49 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD Card Question

This article seems to indicate a higher bus speed for K3 and a few more
recent aps-c models, but other testing seems to show it closer to my
original reply.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/comprehensive-sd-card-guide.html


On 5/15/2018 9:10 AM, Alan C wrote:

ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but 
would the a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?



The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable 
higher write speed would be quite helpful.



Alan C

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Re: PESO: indian darter

[Subash Jeyan]

thank you Paul and Dan, for the nice  words


On Tue, 15 May 2018 22:39:53 -0400
"Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

> Great image, Subash!  I lover the geometry, and the way that the
> sleek body of the bird imitates the shape and color of the bare
> branches that frame it so adeptly.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Subash Jeyan 
> wrote:
> 
> > a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:
> >
> > https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/
> >

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PESO: Iris Bouquet

[Daniel J. Matyola]

>From the Mothers Day Flowers:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/5/15/iris

K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
Comments invited

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Re: GESO: A mixed bag for Mother's Day

[Subash Jeyan]

enjoyed the series. is the first one a drongo? no.9 (herd of elephants)
is quite dramatic...


On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:37:35 +0200
"Alan C"  wrote:

> Being Mother's day, we went to the Letaba Camp picnic spot for a
> lunchtime braai. I took a few shots along the way:
> 
> Scroll L to see the 9 images.
> 
> The first 4 are of birds looking for tasty morsels at the picnic
> spot. There were also monkeys, squirrels & noisy francolin but I
> didn't get those. No 5 is a tatty Zebra White butterfly on a wild
> flower. No 6 is a Jacobin Cuckoo Fledgling which was being fed by its
> much smaller Arrow Marked Babbler host.
> No 7 shows the critically low level of the Letaba River which didn't
> flood this year.
> No 8 is a young Ellie crossing the road with a Mopane branch in its
> mouth. The bark is a sort of Ellie chewing gum.
> No 9 is a herd of Elephants cavorting at the North end of Sable Dam & 
> blocking the road.  When those two young bulls started advancing
> towards us, we decided it was time to beat a hasty retreat. This is
> the same place where I was "trapped" between over 100 Elephants
> earlier this year.
> 
> We had a wonderful outing & saw of other stuff too.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/40273437520/

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Re: PESO: indian darter

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Great image, Subash!  I lover the geometry, and the way that the sleek body
of the bird imitates the shape and color of the bare branches that frame it
so adeptly.


Dan Matyola
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On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:

> a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:
>
> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/
>
> the indian darter, which according to the IUCN is a near-threatened
> species. cropped image.
>
> i had taken my friend's FA* 300/4.5. i really liked how the lens
> handled but unfortunately i have to give it back...
>
> comments, if any, are appreciated.
>
> ~subash
>
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Re: PESO: indian darter

[Paul Stenquist]

Superb. A great composition. Sharp and detailed.

Paul

> On May 15, 2018, at 10:22 PM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:
> 
> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/
> 
> the indian darter, which according to the IUCN is a near-threatened
> species. cropped image.
> 
> i had taken my friend's FA* 300/4.5. i really liked how the lens
> handled but unfortunately i have to give it back...
> 
> comments, if any, are appreciated.
> 
> ~subash
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PESO: indian darter

[Subash Jeyan]

a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:

https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/

the indian darter, which according to the IUCN is a near-threatened
species. cropped image.

i had taken my friend's FA* 300/4.5. i really liked how the lens
handled but unfortunately i have to give it back...

comments, if any, are appreciated.

~subash

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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[John]

On 5/15/2018 16:33, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Hi Pentaxians

Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear, and 
even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of folk 
enjoying themselves in a different environment...

I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this video 
for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.

Proud of this one! Enjoy...



(links direct to a Youtube video page)





I enjoyed it quite a bit.

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Re: Did not make the photo annual cut ...

[John]

On 5/15/2018 19:29, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 5/14/2018 5:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


Let's see what shots of yours did not make it into the 2018 PDML
Annual.

Here's the one of mine that didn't make the cut: "Dancer, seated"


Yeah, I remember punting that one...


https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GRxwiW8gVQx4/IsYE80yE9V.g


Punting is a good thing, right? I've never been a sports fan so I'm
not too good with baseball metaphors.

;-)



I thought it was when you're standing up at the back of the boat pushing 
yourself along with a long pole?


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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[ann sanfedele]

I see why you are proud! - interesting subject, even for a 
basiclandlubber like me - and so beautifully photographed by you ..


ann

On 5/15/2018 4:33 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Hi Pentaxians

Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear, and 
even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of folk 
enjoying themselves in a different environment...

I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this video 
for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.

Proud of this one! Enjoy...



(links direct to a Youtube video page)






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Re: Yorkshire report

[John]

On 5/15/2018 15:11, Mark Roberts wrote:

I don't have any PESOs to post yet, I'm afraid. When we get in to our
destination at the end of the day I'm too tired to deal with
photo-related stuff.

I just wanted to relate a bit of my conversation with the barkeep at
the pub where we had dinner last night. We were talking about our
travels and he told me he visits New Zealand fairly often. He said he
likes it because "it's a lot quieter than here". Keep in mind that
"here" is Horton-in-Ribblesdale, a village of about a hundred people
in Yorkshire.
  



Maybe they don't talk as loud in New Zealand?

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Re: SD Card Question

[John]

I don't think it makes any difference. Comparing four 32GB cards (new & old 
Extreme + Ultra + Extreme Pro) they all seem to have a transfer speed greater 
than the K5's write speed.


SanDisk Extreme 32GB SDHC UHS-I Card [Old Version]  $18.95 USD
90 MB/S

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-I-SDSDXNE-032G-GNCIN-Version/dp/B013CP3KZ6

https://tinyurl.com/y9lmtuxk

SanDisk Extreme 32GB 90 Mb/s SDHC UHS-I Card [Newest Version] $18.45 USD
90 MB/S

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-SDSDXVE-032G-GNCIN-Newest-Version/dp/B01LORO7Z6/

https://tinyurl.com/y89wsdva

SanDisk 32GB Ultra Class 10 SDHC UHS-I $12.99 USD
80 MB/S

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Class-Memory-SDSDUNC-032G-GN6IN/dp/B0143RT8OY

https://tinyurl.com/lsdzrz2

SanDisk Extreme PRO 32GB up to 95MB/s UHS-I/U3 SDHC $26.43 USD
95 MB/S

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-I-Flash-Memory/dp/B005LFT3QG

https://tinyurl.com/y7stb3ps

Seems to me the K5 would operate at its maximum write speed with any of these 
cards or am I missing something?



On 5/15/2018 14:27, Alan C wrote:

Thanks, PJ

That seems to settle it. The K5 bus allows a write speed of 25Mb/s so an Extreme 
Plus (30Mb/s) would do better than the Ultra (10Mb/s) which I have. Only the 
newer models like the K3 & K1 can take advantage of Extreme Pro cards.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: P. J. Alling
Sent: 15 May, 2018 7:49 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD Card Question

This article seems to indicate a higher bus speed for K3 and a few more
recent aps-c models, but other testing seems to show it closer to my
original reply.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/comprehensive-sd-card-guide.html 




On 5/15/2018 9:10 AM, Alan C wrote:
ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but would the a 
K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?


The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable higher 
write speed would be quite helpful.


Alan C

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Re: Did not make the photo annual cut ...

[lrc]

On any case Bill is certainly the list punter.

On May 15, 2018 4:29:33 PM PDT, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Bill 
>wrote:
>> On 5/14/2018 5:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Let's see what shots of yours did not make it into the 2018 PDML
>>> Annual.
>>>
>>> Here's the one of mine that didn't make the cut: "Dancer, seated"
>>
>> Yeah, I remember punting that one...
>>>
>>>
>https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GRxwiW8gVQx4/IsYE80yE9V.g
>
>Punting is a good thing, right? I've never been a sports fan so I'm
>not too good with baseball metaphors.
>
>;-)
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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[Paul Stenquist]

Great camera work, superb edit. It doesn’t get any better than that!
Paul

> On May 15, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pentaxians
> 
> Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear, 
> and even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of 
> folk enjoying themselves in a different environment...
> 
> I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this video 
> for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.
> 
> Proud of this one! Enjoy...
> 
> 
> 
> (links direct to a Youtube video page)
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: Did not make the photo annual cut ...

[William Robb]

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 5:30 PM Bruce Walker  wrote:

> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Bill 
> wrote:
> > On 5/14/2018 5:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's see what shots of yours did not make it into the 2018 PDML
> >> Annual.
> >>
> >> Here's the one of mine that didn't make the cut: "Dancer, seated"
> >
> > Yeah, I remember punting that one...
> >>
> >>
> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GRxwiW8gVQx4/IsYE80yE9V.g
>
> Punting is a good thing, right? I've never been a sports fan so I'm
> not too good with baseball metaphors.


It’s what you do when you have lost that round.

bill

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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[Ken Waller]

Very well done Cotty - thanks for sharing !

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- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Cottrell" 

Subject: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe



Hi Pentaxians

Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear, 
and even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of 
folk enjoying themselves in a different environment...


I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this 
video for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.


Proud of this one! Enjoy...



(links direct to a Youtube video page)



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Re: Did not make the photo annual cut ...

[Bruce Walker]

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 5/14/2018 5:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Let's see what shots of yours did not make it into the 2018 PDML
>> Annual.
>>
>> Here's the one of mine that didn't make the cut: "Dancer, seated"
>
> Yeah, I remember punting that one...
>>
>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GRxwiW8gVQx4/IsYE80yE9V.g

Punting is a good thing, right? I've never been a sports fan so I'm
not too good with baseball metaphors.

;-)

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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

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On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:57 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 14/5/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Thanks for the insightful commentary.  Sounds bleak for the most part.
> >I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is
> >sinking and its time to board a new one.  Don't know which one
> >however, but it seems that mirrorless is taking over to some degree.
> >I would like to keep my best lenses if they are able to be mounted on
> >whatever new platform I move to without too much hassle, so that
> >remains to be explored.  If not, expect a butt load of lenses to be
> >offered to the gang here.
>
> Gonzosaurus - if you are serious, I would heavily recommend trying out
> Fuji stuff - with the added advantage that your pentax lenses can fit with
> a simple adapter.


The Fujis are gorgeous. I handled an X-T2 and an X-H1 as well. My major
complaint with the viewfinders seems to a great extent to have been
resolved. They have put in an accelerated refresh rate mode that takes the
refresh up to a hundred times per second. Apparently it swills battery
life. The trade-off for a decent viewfinder seems to be short battery life.

I have a cheap Chinese adapter for putting Pentax lenses onto my X-T1, it
works well enough. I saw an adapter with an aperture ring on it for making
control-free lenses work.
Truthfully, the Fuji works better than the Pentax for pre control-free
lenses. The Fuji does away with the green button kludge and turns the X-T1
into a crop sensor Pentax LX.

The K3II is probably as good a still camera as the X-T2 for the most part.
Perhaps not as fast, but both are 24mp sensors. The X-H1 is still 24mp, but
it looks like it has much better video. It is also quite large.

The Fuji lenses are every bit as good as anything Pentax has on the market.
The real lovelies are the 14/2.8, 23/1.4, 35/1.4 and the 56/1.2
I would say that those 4 are must haves.
And yes, I have them.

>
>
> Beyond that, Olympus make some good kit, albeit Micro 4/3rds so the pentax
> lenses will offer different angles of view, which is not necessarily a bad
> thing
>

My late friend and mentor, Brian Schneider used an Olympus in the later
years. He was a Pentax and Leica user when I met him in the mid 1970s. We
sort of lost touch for a few years, and then reconnected in the mid 1980s.
He went from Pentax to Nikon to Canon to Panasonic to Olympus from the mid
80s until the end. Much of my Pentax equipment came from him. I suppose in
a roundabout way, the PDML can thank him for the infliction that is me. I
would likely have not looked at the brand in 35mm had it not been for him
and the fact I already had a 6x7 (also his recommendation) and liked it and
it’s ponderous beastliness.

Here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/klatuu13/albums/with/72157642969810854

If you care to look at some of his work. He went through a bit of an over
the top HDR look for a while, but most of his work is pretty tasty.

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Peso

[Jack Davis]

Brown-headed Cowbirds in a springtime mood.

Near bird having obvious chills from what looks to be, some nuzzling from it's 
companion.


Last of the series!


C&C?

Thanks!


J


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Re: PESO Brooks

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The bird appears in very good shape for one that was shot an hour before
you snapped its image.



Being a Baltimore Oriole, he probably wants to be put out of his misery,
especially this season.

Nicely photographed, at any rate.


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On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I shot this bird an hour ago. I’m going to pencil him in at third base and
> call him Brooks.
> Paul
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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Wonderful boat, superior video!

I loved to see the Rotary Wheel at the top of the Sail!

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On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Hi Pentaxians
>
> Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear,
> and even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of
> folk enjoying themselves in a different environment...
>
> I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this
> video for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.
>
> Proud of this one! Enjoy...
>
> 
>
> (links direct to a Youtube video page)
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[Paul Sorenson]

What a fun trip!  The sail management is really a marvel of 
engineering.  Thanks for posting...


-p


On 5/15/2018 3:33 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Hi Pentaxians

Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear, and 
even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of folk 
enjoying themselves in a different environment...

I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this video 
for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.

Proud of this one! Enjoy...



(links direct to a Youtube video page)





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Re: Yorkshire report

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On 15 May 2018, at 21:59, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 15/5/18, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I just wanted to relate a bit of my conversation with the barkeep at
>> the pub where we had dinner last night. We were talking about our
>> travels and he told me he visits New Zealand fairly often. He said he
>> likes it because "it's a lot quieter than here". Keep in mind that
>> "here" is Horton-in-Ribblesdale, a village of about a hundred people
>> in Yorkshire.
> 
> Beware THE MOORS!

I think we call them North Africans these days, Cotty. Political correctness 
gone mad, I know, but there it is.




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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

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On 15/5/18, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>So you should be proud! Super film.

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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[Chris Mitchell]

So you should be proud! Super film.

Chris

On 15 May 2018 at 21:33, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Hi Pentaxians
>
> Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear,
> and even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of
> folk enjoying themselves in a different environment...
>
> I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this
> video for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.
>
> Proud of this one! Enjoy...
>
> 
>
> (links direct to a Youtube video page)
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Yorkshire report

[Steve Cottrell]

On 15/5/18, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I just wanted to relate a bit of my conversation with the barkeep at
>the pub where we had dinner last night. We were talking about our
>travels and he told me he visits New Zealand fairly often. He said he
>likes it because "it's a lot quieter than here". Keep in mind that
>"here" is Horton-in-Ribblesdale, a village of about a hundred people
>in Yorkshire.

Beware THE MOORS!

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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Steve Cottrell]

On 14/5/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Thanks for the insightful commentary.  Sounds bleak for the most part.
>I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is
>sinking and its time to board a new one.  Don't know which one
>however, but it seems that mirrorless is taking over to some degree.
>I would like to keep my best lenses if they are able to be mounted on
>whatever new platform I move to without too much hassle, so that
>remains to be explored.  If not, expect a butt load of lenses to be
>offered to the gang here.

Gonzosaurus - if you are serious, I would heavily recommend trying out Fuji 
stuff - with the added advantage that your pentax lenses can fit with a simple 
adapter.

Beyond that, Olympus make some good kit, albeit Micro 4/3rds so the pentax 
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Re: PESO Brooks

[Jack Davis]

Nice image, Paul. Color and setting
are very complimentary
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I shot this bird an hour ago. I’m going to pencil him in at third base and 
> call him Brooks. 
> Paul
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OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[Steve Cottrell]

Hi Pentaxians

Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear, and 
even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of folk 
enjoying themselves in a different environment...

I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this video 
for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.

Proud of this one! Enjoy...



(links direct to a Youtube video page)



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PESO Brooks

[Paul Stenquist]

I shot this bird an hour ago. I’m going to pencil him in at third base and call 
him Brooks. 
Paul

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Yorkshire report

[Mark Roberts]

I don't have any PESOs to post yet, I'm afraid. When we get in to our
destination at the end of the day I'm too tired to deal with
photo-related stuff.

I just wanted to relate a bit of my conversation with the barkeep at
the pub where we had dinner last night. We were talking about our
travels and he told me he visits New Zealand fairly often. He said he
likes it because "it's a lot quieter than here". Keep in mind that
"here" is Horton-in-Ribblesdale, a village of about a hundred people
in Yorkshire.
 
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Re: SD Card Question

[Alan C]

Thanks, PJ

That seems to settle it. The K5 bus allows a write speed of 25Mb/s so an 
Extreme Plus (30Mb/s) would do better than the Ultra (10Mb/s) which I have. 
Only the newer models like the K3 & K1 can take advantage of Extreme Pro 
cards.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: P. J. Alling

Sent: 15 May, 2018 7:49 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: SD Card Question

This article seems to indicate a higher bus speed for K3 and a few more
recent aps-c models, but other testing seems to show it closer to my
original reply.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/comprehensive-sd-card-guide.html


On 5/15/2018 9:10 AM, Alan C wrote:
ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but would 
the a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?


The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable higher 
write speed would be quite helpful.


Alan C

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Re: SD Card Question

[P. J. Alling]

This article seems to indicate a higher bus speed for K3 and a few more 
recent aps-c models, but other testing seems to show it closer to my 
original reply.


https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/comprehensive-sd-card-guide.html


On 5/15/2018 9:10 AM, Alan C wrote:
ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but 
would the a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?


The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable 
higher write speed would be quite helpful.


Alan C

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Re: Slideshow (every so often)

[Boris Liberman]

Thank you, AnnSan!

To make a slideshow in LightRoom is trivial. It has a special Slide Show
module and the rest is pretty much straightforward. You create a collection
with the images, you order them by dragging and dropping to your liking,
then you enter the Slide Show module. There you set slide duration,
transitions, music, writing, etc. Then finally, from the top menu you
choose Slide Show -> Export Video Slide Show and follow the prompt.



On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 10:46 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Enjoyed it very much!  nice travalogue ... (I need to learn how to make a
> slide show that will play on youtube)
> Nice to see you, Boris
> ann
>
>
> On 5/11/2018 4:01 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
>
>> Hi there.
>>
>> After short pause of mere 26 years I visited my home town couple of weeks
>> ago.
>>
>> Here is 2.5 min long slideshow I made.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/xLnN7HvkO-c
>>
>> For tech heads: it is 720p video. Oly EM-1 and surprisingly to me, Galaxy
>> Note 5 was used. It turns out that DNG files my cell phone produces are
>> not
>> bad at all.
>>
>> As for the trip itself - it was very personal and very emotional thing.
>> Now
>> I feel more whole than before.
>>
>> Appreciate your comments.
>>
>> Boris
>>
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Re: SD Card Question

[P. J. Alling]

No, not really.  None of the current Pentax cameras has a bus speed that 
can take advantage of the fastest UHS-1 cards.  They top out around ~33 
mb/s.



On 5/15/2018 9:10 AM, Alan C wrote:
ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but 
would the a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?


The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable 
higher write speed would be quite helpful.


Alan C

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[No Subject]

[Jack Davis]

Just one additional Cowbird item!

Appears the left bird is experiencing a chill. Probably due to having his ear 
blown into.


C&C?

Thanks!


J


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Re: SD Card Question

[Alan C]

K3 & later have the UHS-1 bus but not the K5 & older, hence my question.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Stenquist

Sent: 15 May, 2018 3:36 PM
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The Extreme cards are definitely faster in my K-3 and K-1. The buffer clears 
more rapidly than it does with Ultra cards and I get more consecutive shots 
without stalling.


Paul


On May 15, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Alan C  wrote:

ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but would 
the a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?


The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable higher 
write speed would be quite helpful.


Alan C

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Re: SD Card Question

[Paul Stenquist]

The Extreme cards are definitely faster in my K-3 and K-1. The buffer clears 
more rapidly than it does with Ultra cards and I get more consecutive shots 
without stalling.

Paul

> On May 15, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but would the 
> a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?
> 
> The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable higher 
> write speed would be quite helpful.
> 
> Alan C 
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SD Card Question

[Alan C]

ScanDisk Extreme SD Cards are rated faster than Ultra SD Cards but would the 
a K5 be able to take advantage of the higher write speed?


The K5 files are considerably larger than the K7 files so a usable higher 
write speed would be quite helpful.


Alan C 



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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Rob Studdert]

They need to review their MF lens line-up as people are leaving the
645 line for the new boys on the block. I've now sold the majority of
my K-mount kit, it's quite refreshing not to constrained however my
new kit is quite limited in scope and will remain so for the
foreseeable future, it's doing what I need it to (and many of those
things Pentax kit simply can't at the moment).

On 15 May 2018 at 13:10, Bill  wrote:
> On 5/14/2018 3:22 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the insightful commentary.  Sounds bleak for the most part.
>> I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is
>> sinking and its time to board a new one.
>
>
> That's not the message I got. The message I got is that Ricoh is in it for
> the long haul with Pentax.
>
> Don't know which one
>>
>> however, but it seems that mirrorless is taking over to some degree.
>
>
> Mirrorless is definitely getting the hype, whether it's taking over is
> another story.
> I suppose TV took over from radio.
> At least it was supposed to.
>
>
> bill
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