FS almst FRiday PENTAX SMC DA 55-300 1:4-5.8 ED

[ann sanfedele]

I just put it on ebay...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SMC-Pentax-zoom-lens-DA-1-4-5-8-55-300-ED-inclu-lens-hood-soft-case-lens-caps/202316201771?hash=item2f1afc3f2b:g:DKAAAOSw1T1a~iQx

Here is the link to all the stuff I have listed...  83 items  misc stuff..

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_sop=1&_dmd=2&_ssn=annsan&_ipg=96=nc

all the fixed price listings are BIN or Best offer and I don't have a 
bottom cut  - that is, even if someone offers $1 I want to see that..


(of course I wouldnt accept it lol)


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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Subash Jeyan]

written with a rare generous of heart. incidentally, iirc, it is ten
years since your page by page critique the very first annualall the
best with your house sales and your moving. 

~subash

On Fri, 18 May 2018 00:05:18 +0100
"Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

> I spent a good hour going through the Annual this afternoon and it is
> a stunning range of work by some very talented photographers. Lovely
> design by Mark, it has to be said. Can't believe it's 10 years since
> the first.
> 
> But the star of the show are the photographs and there is not one dud
> amongst them - and nor would I expect them to be. The standard is
> very high indeed. There's always one or two that pop out at you on
> first glance, but actually, when taking the time to go through and
> look carefully, the detail is in the looking. Absolutely superb.
> 
> Made me want to gor through and do a page by page critique (as I once
> did - what year was that??) but I just don't have time - we are
> moving house and there is so much to do.
> 
> Incidentally if anyone knows someone looking for a cute little
> English cottage on the edge of the Cotswolds, here is the link:
> 
> 
> 
> I need to go through the Annual again with a bottle of wine and
> really look at the pictures properly.
> 
> Stunned. And also a little sad that some of our best snappers aren't
> in due to lack of Pentax gear. Maybe worth pressing an old Pentax
> lens into service on those Leicas and Fujis eh? If Chris Mitchell can
> figure it out. ;-)
> 
> Well done all, you should be proud.
> 
> And you Adam Montoya, that image of the hand is outstanding.
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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Steve Cottrell]

On 18/5/18, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>But the star of the show are the photographs

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

The only tense I understand apparently are camping ones.

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PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Steve Cottrell]

I spent a good hour going through the Annual this afternoon and it is a 
stunning range of work by some very talented photographers. Lovely design by 
Mark, it has to be said. Can't believe it's 10 years since the first.

But the star of the show are the photographs and there is not one dud amongst 
them - and nor would I expect them to be. The standard is very high indeed. 
There's always one or two that pop out at you on first glance, but actually, 
when taking the time to go through and look carefully, the detail is in the 
looking. Absolutely superb.

Made me want to gor through and do a page by page critique (as I once did - 
what year was that??) but I just don't have time - we are moving house and 
there is so much to do.

Incidentally if anyone knows someone looking for a cute little English cottage 
on the edge of the Cotswolds, here is the link:



I need to go through the Annual again with a bottle of wine and really look at 
the pictures properly.

Stunned. And also a little sad that some of our best snappers aren't in due to 
lack of Pentax gear. Maybe worth pressing an old Pentax lens into service on 
those Leicas and Fujis eh? If Chris Mitchell can figure it out. ;-)

Well done all, you should be proud.

And you Adam Montoya, that image of the hand is outstanding.

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Re: SD Card Question

[Igor PDML-StR]

I just know that I see a very noticeable (if not annoying) delay with 
SanDisk Ultra card (albeit the previous model), while shooting videos.
With that card, I cannot stop recording the video, and start the next 
piece right away: it takes some 20-30 seconds for it to right down the 
buffer. This doesn't happen with the Samsung Pro card (which is rated at 
up-to 80 MB/s for sequential writing.


I did not have a chance to compare performance with shooting long 
series of still shots where the card performance would be important and 
the difference noticeable.


I don't know about Ultra Plus.

HTH,

Igor


 Alan C Tue, 15 May 2018 21:33:13 -0700 wrote:

Thanks, Igor, for that erudite explanation.

I'll try an Ultra Plus. No point in going higher than that.


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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Bill]

On 5/17/2018 12:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I see some younger photographers who are making their initial purchase of 
pro-level gear going to Pentax. While I agree that Pentax will likely focus on 
pro and advanced amateur offerings, I think they can own the lower priced end 
of that niche. Pentax is a bargain. The K-1 isn’t quite the equal of Nikon’s 
best, but It is almost as capable and far less expenses. With in-camera shake 
reduction that price advantage extends to lenses as well. The Pentax D FA 
70-200/2.8 sells for about $1000 less than Nikon’s 70-200/2.8, and I would be 
willing to bet the image quality is just as good.
Paul


Agreed.

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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Bill]

On 5/17/2018 12:26 PM, Gonz wrote:

I see your point Bill, and you arguments make a certain amount of
sense as far as Ricoh's direction.  But where I diverge in my opinion
is the survival part.  Granted there will always be that cadre of
Pentax die hards, but as you can see from the average age of pdml
posters, its only going up, not down. 


The PDML is one of the best kept secrets on the internet. I hardly think 
we can use this mailing list as an example.
I just entered "Pentax camera forums" into Google and what came back was 
forums neurotica, pentaxuser.com and DPReview.

We aren't exactly on anyone's radar here.
Spend some time on the neurotic forum and you will find plenty of thin 
skinned millennials just looking to take offense at even the smallest 
slight.



 I.e. there is very little new

Pentax "blood" coming in.  So someone who is just coming into the high
end/pro side of photography will in all likelihood migrate to one of
the big three i.e. Canon, Nikon, Sony.  Well at least as 35mm is
concerned.  I think medium format is a completely different beast and
I wont even venture an opinion on that.  Then there is Leica, but they
are also on a different league altogether when it comes to high end.
So where does that leave Pentax? 


It leaves them with somewhat of an uphill battle to be sure, but I do 
think that if Ricoh was planning on shuttering the brand any time soon 
we wouldn't be seeing long term plans and short term new products coming 
out of their factories.


 With a reputation of a lower

cost/amateur manufacturer, they will have a real hard time competing
in the space with those big boys and all their resources.  The market
is definitely shrinking, and it makes perfect sense to go after the
only remaining market not eviscerated by phone cameras (though I've
seen pros starting to move there too and even making full movies with
them), but whether they will survive or not is a crap shoot.


Whether anyone survives is a crap shoot. Nikon is, from what I've read, 
somewhat on the ropes, Canon is taking hits all over the place because 
of very outdated sensor technology (the peril of making your own and 
then not throwing R dollars at the division that invents them), Sony 
makes no bones about throwing money at the wall and seeing what sticks. 
As soon as cameras stop sticking, they are out of the game, the same way 
they got out of consumer video recorders with Beta and became just 
another also ran VHS maker.
I was, as it happens, one of the consumers they left high and dry with a 
cabinet full of tapes and no machine available to play them on.


Friends don't let friends buy Sony.

Canon is something of a crap shoot. As the market shrinks, they will 
look more and more at mirrorless, and I wouldn't be surprised if they 
jump in with both feet and change their mount (again). If they do that, 
expect the EF mount to go the way of the FD mount, with the same lame 
excuse given for killing it.


They got away with it once, they might well try to get away with it again.

At least Ricoh bought the Pentax brand because they wanted it and 
thought they could build something with it. Canon and Nikon are just 
doing what they have always done, and really, so is Sony (toying with a 
market until it dries up and then walking away).


Fuji really is, to my mind, the safe bet regarding the camera industry, 
but let's not pretend that they can't fail either.


bill


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Re: Any Photo Annuals arrived yet?

[DagT]

Thank you!

I got mine a couple of days ago and, actually, in these days we are receiving a 
Annual Norwegian book with a lot more pictures but not close to the quality of 
this book,  both regarding the design, text and the pictures. As always I´m 
honored to be allowed to contribute :-)

DagT


> 14. mai 2018 kl. 22:45 skrev Bruce Walker :
> 
> Mine arrived about an hour ago and I've had a most enjoyable read.
> 
> You know, our images really seem to sing when seen printed in this
> format. I do believe some major kudos are due to Mark for preparing
> the image files for printed reproduction -- Mark, clearly you really
> know what you're doing. :) Thank you!
> 
> Of course it's a collection of the best of the best -- and they are
> really good! -- so it's difficult for me to single any out for extra
> praise. But I have to observe that the man to beat for composition has
> got to be Dag Thrane. I really love those images.
> 
> BTW, my copy of the book had an unrelated Blurb book appended to it: a
> celebration of the life of one Rick Samuels, complete with coded
> internal Blurb instructions. Did that happen to anyone else? I suppose
> I should contact Blurb's support folks, but maybe this will make my
> copy even more of a collector's item than it's destined to be now?
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
>> I apologise in advance for getting pages 10 and 11 swapped - totally
>> my fault and not Blurb's. I may correct it in the future but Blurb's
>> policies require that I re-order a copy of each book (both paperback
>> and hardcover) after re-uploading the entire file for each. Oh yes,
>> and the URL's for each will change, too.
>> 
>> In the meantime, all the photos did actually make it into the book and
>> if I do make the correction in the future you'll have a valuable
>> collectors item when I do. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> www.robertstech.com
>> 
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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Paul Stenquist]

I see some younger photographers who are making their initial purchase of 
pro-level gear going to Pentax. While I agree that Pentax will likely focus on 
pro and advanced amateur offerings, I think they can own the lower priced end 
of that niche. Pentax is a bargain. The K-1 isn’t quite the equal of Nikon’s 
best, but It is almost as capable and far less expenses. With in-camera shake 
reduction that price advantage extends to lenses as well. The Pentax D FA 
70-200/2.8 sells for about $1000 less than Nikon’s 70-200/2.8, and I would be 
willing to bet the image quality is just as good.
Paul

> On May 17, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> 
> I see your point Bill, and you arguments make a certain amount of
> sense as far as Ricoh's direction.  But where I diverge in my opinion
> is the survival part.  Granted there will always be that cadre of
> Pentax die hards, but as you can see from the average age of pdml
> posters, its only going up, not down.  I.e. there is very little new
> Pentax "blood" coming in.  So someone who is just coming into the high
> end/pro side of photography will in all likelihood migrate to one of
> the big three i.e. Canon, Nikon, Sony.  Well at least as 35mm is
> concerned.  I think medium format is a completely different beast and
> I wont even venture an opinion on that.  Then there is Leica, but they
> are also on a different league altogether when it comes to high end.
> So where does that leave Pentax?  With a reputation of a lower
> cost/amateur manufacturer, they will have a real hard time competing
> in the space with those big boys and all their resources.  The market
> is definitely shrinking, and it makes perfect sense to go after the
> only remaining market not eviscerated by phone cameras (though I've
> seen pros starting to move there too and even making full movies with
> them), but whether they will survive or not is a crap shoot.
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Bill  wrote:
>> On 5/17/2018 8:33 AM, Gonz wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmmm, I've been lusting over Fuji's stuff for a while now, maybe this
>>> is the push that I need.  On the other hand, I read something like
>>> this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://petapixel.com/2018/05/17/ricohs-new-camera-sdks-open-the-door-to-3rd-party-apps/
>>> 
>>> Which I've been advocating for years now.  There are few things that
>>> can create more buzz and excitement than an active third party
>>> ecosystem that gives you applications and features Pentax/Ricoh could
>>> not dream of.  This is what made Apple the phone brand that it is,
>>> maybe this will revive the Pentax brand and allow it to survive.
>> 
>> 
>> I don't think there is much doubt that the Pentax brand will survive. What
>> is in doubt is if it will survive in such a way as to make it desirable for
>> entry level users. The road map is indicating all high end lenses, and as
>> the camera market is shrinking at a rather alarming rate, the high end of
>> the market is the safest place to be positioned.
>> The low end of the market is being eviscerated by the cell phone market. Low
>> end, low cost products have to sell in huge numbers to be profitable. Going
>> forwards, those sales numbers simply won't exist.
>> Witness Ford getting out of the sedan market, essentially abandoning the
>> entry level automobile market to Korean manufacturers as an example.
>> My guess is that the Pentax brand is going to pretty much abandon the
>> beginner market (the Ricoh brand may pick up traction there), and
>> concentrate on high end products that can be profitable at low volumes.
>> 
>> As much as forum users who think they know everything disagree because
>> Pentax isn't doing what they want (they must be stupid because of that), the
>> management at Ricoh is made up of some pretty smart cookies who walked into
>> the Pentax brand with their eyes open. We may not be seeing the development
>> speed we would like to see, but we are seeing an ongoing commitment and a
>> steady, albeit slow, pace of development.
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>> 
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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Gonz]

I see your point Bill, and you arguments make a certain amount of
sense as far as Ricoh's direction.  But where I diverge in my opinion
is the survival part.  Granted there will always be that cadre of
Pentax die hards, but as you can see from the average age of pdml
posters, its only going up, not down.  I.e. there is very little new
Pentax "blood" coming in.  So someone who is just coming into the high
end/pro side of photography will in all likelihood migrate to one of
the big three i.e. Canon, Nikon, Sony.  Well at least as 35mm is
concerned.  I think medium format is a completely different beast and
I wont even venture an opinion on that.  Then there is Leica, but they
are also on a different league altogether when it comes to high end.
So where does that leave Pentax?  With a reputation of a lower
cost/amateur manufacturer, they will have a real hard time competing
in the space with those big boys and all their resources.  The market
is definitely shrinking, and it makes perfect sense to go after the
only remaining market not eviscerated by phone cameras (though I've
seen pros starting to move there too and even making full movies with
them), but whether they will survive or not is a crap shoot.


On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 5/17/2018 8:33 AM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm, I've been lusting over Fuji's stuff for a while now, maybe this
>> is the push that I need.  On the other hand, I read something like
>> this:
>>
>>
>> https://petapixel.com/2018/05/17/ricohs-new-camera-sdks-open-the-door-to-3rd-party-apps/
>>
>> Which I've been advocating for years now.  There are few things that
>> can create more buzz and excitement than an active third party
>> ecosystem that gives you applications and features Pentax/Ricoh could
>> not dream of.  This is what made Apple the phone brand that it is,
>> maybe this will revive the Pentax brand and allow it to survive.
>
>
> I don't think there is much doubt that the Pentax brand will survive. What
> is in doubt is if it will survive in such a way as to make it desirable for
> entry level users. The road map is indicating all high end lenses, and as
> the camera market is shrinking at a rather alarming rate, the high end of
> the market is the safest place to be positioned.
> The low end of the market is being eviscerated by the cell phone market. Low
> end, low cost products have to sell in huge numbers to be profitable. Going
> forwards, those sales numbers simply won't exist.
> Witness Ford getting out of the sedan market, essentially abandoning the
> entry level automobile market to Korean manufacturers as an example.
> My guess is that the Pentax brand is going to pretty much abandon the
> beginner market (the Ricoh brand may pick up traction there), and
> concentrate on high end products that can be profitable at low volumes.
>
> As much as forum users who think they know everything disagree because
> Pentax isn't doing what they want (they must be stupid because of that), the
> management at Ricoh is made up of some pretty smart cookies who walked into
> the Pentax brand with their eyes open. We may not be seeing the development
> speed we would like to see, but we are seeing an ongoing commitment and a
> steady, albeit slow, pace of development.
>
> bill
>
>
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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[Steve Cottrell]

On 17/5/18, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>That's one wonderful video, Cotty!  Beautifully shot, informative, and
>super interesting.  Congrats!  Cheers, Christine

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Re: OT - Old Sailing Barge with Tom Cunliffe

[Christine Aguila]

That’s one wonderful video, Cotty!  Beautifully shot, informative, and super 
interesting.  Congrats!  Cheers, Christine


> On May 15, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pentaxians
> 
> Some of you might be interested in old wooden sailing boats of yesteryear, 
> and even if you're not, still might appreciate a short, well-told tale of 
> folk enjoying themselves in a different environment...
> 
> I teamed up with UK sailing legend Tom Cunliffe (q.v.) and we made this video 
> for a sailing charity, the Sea-Change Trust.
> 
> Proud of this one! Enjoy...
> 
> 
> 
> (links direct to a Youtube video page)
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: indian darter

[Subash Jeyan]

On Thu, 17 May 2018 09:47:02 -0500
Gonz  wrote:

> Wow, nice shot.  The 300 served you well there!

thank you...
 
> Kinda reminds me of our mascot, the Cormorant with that long neck.

longer, much  longer :)
 
> 
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Subash Jeyan 
> wrote:
> > a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:
> >
> > https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/
> >
> > the indian darter, which according to the IUCN is a near-threatened
> > species. cropped image.
> >
> > i had taken my friend's FA* 300/4.5. i really liked how the lens
> > handled but unfortunately i have to give it back...

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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Bill]

On 5/17/2018 8:33 AM, Gonz wrote:

Hmmm, I've been lusting over Fuji's stuff for a while now, maybe this
is the push that I need.  On the other hand, I read something like
this:

https://petapixel.com/2018/05/17/ricohs-new-camera-sdks-open-the-door-to-3rd-party-apps/

Which I've been advocating for years now.  There are few things that
can create more buzz and excitement than an active third party
ecosystem that gives you applications and features Pentax/Ricoh could
not dream of.  This is what made Apple the phone brand that it is,
maybe this will revive the Pentax brand and allow it to survive.


I don't think there is much doubt that the Pentax brand will survive. 
What is in doubt is if it will survive in such a way as to make it 
desirable for entry level users. The road map is indicating all high end 
lenses, and as the camera market is shrinking at a rather alarming rate, 
the high end of the market is the safest place to be positioned.
The low end of the market is being eviscerated by the cell phone market. 
Low end, low cost products have to sell in huge numbers to be 
profitable. Going forwards, those sales numbers simply won't exist.
Witness Ford getting out of the sedan market, essentially abandoning the 
entry level automobile market to Korean manufacturers as an example.
My guess is that the Pentax brand is going to pretty much abandon the 
beginner market (the Ricoh brand may pick up traction there), and 
concentrate on high end products that can be profitable at low volumes.


As much as forum users who think they know everything disagree because 
Pentax isn't doing what they want (they must be stupid because of that), 
the management at Ricoh is made up of some pretty smart cookies who 
walked into the Pentax brand with their eyes open. We may not be seeing 
the development speed we would like to see, but we are seeing an ongoing 
commitment and a steady, albeit slow, pace of development.


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Re: PESO: indian darter

[Gonz]

Wow, nice shot.  The 300 served you well there!

Kinda reminds me of our mascot, the Cormorant with that long neck.


On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> a PESO from kerala, my native state in india:
>
> https://somethingfeathered.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/indian-darter/
>
> the indian darter, which according to the IUCN is a near-threatened
> species. cropped image.
>
> i had taken my friend's FA* 300/4.5. i really liked how the lens
> handled but unfortunately i have to give it back...
>
> comments, if any, are appreciated.
>
> ~subash
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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Gonz]

"Gonzosaurus"... I like that, sometimes I come into the office with a
bit of T-Rex attitude after a bad nites sleep...  everyone steers
clear..


On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 14/5/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Thanks for the insightful commentary.  Sounds bleak for the most part.
>>I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is
>>sinking and its time to board a new one.  Don't know which one
>>however, but it seems that mirrorless is taking over to some degree.
>>I would like to keep my best lenses if they are able to be mounted on
>>whatever new platform I move to without too much hassle, so that
>>remains to be explored.  If not, expect a butt load of lenses to be
>>offered to the gang here.
>
> Gonzosaurus - if you are serious, I would heavily recommend trying out Fuji 
> stuff - with the added advantage that your pentax lenses can fit with a 
> simple adapter.
>
> Beyond that, Olympus make some good kit, albeit Micro 4/3rds so the pentax 
> lenses will offer different angles of view, which is not necessarily a bad 
> thing
>
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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Gonz]

Hmmm, I've been lusting over Fuji's stuff for a while now, maybe this
is the push that I need.  On the other hand, I read something like
this:

https://petapixel.com/2018/05/17/ricohs-new-camera-sdks-open-the-door-to-3rd-party-apps/

Which I've been advocating for years now.  There are few things that
can create more buzz and excitement than an active third party
ecosystem that gives you applications and features Pentax/Ricoh could
not dream of.  This is what made Apple the phone brand that it is,
maybe this will revive the Pentax brand and allow it to survive.


On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:25 PM, William Robb
 wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:57 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>
>> On 14/5/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>> >Thanks for the insightful commentary.  Sounds bleak for the most part.
>> >I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the Pentax ship is
>> >sinking and its time to board a new one.  Don't know which one
>> >however, but it seems that mirrorless is taking over to some degree.
>> >I would like to keep my best lenses if they are able to be mounted on
>> >whatever new platform I move to without too much hassle, so that
>> >remains to be explored.  If not, expect a butt load of lenses to be
>> >offered to the gang here.
>>
>> Gonzosaurus - if you are serious, I would heavily recommend trying out
>> Fuji stuff - with the added advantage that your pentax lenses can fit with
>> a simple adapter.
>
>
> The Fujis are gorgeous. I handled an X-T2 and an X-H1 as well. My major
> complaint with the viewfinders seems to a great extent to have been
> resolved. They have put in an accelerated refresh rate mode that takes the
> refresh up to a hundred times per second. Apparently it swills battery
> life. The trade-off for a decent viewfinder seems to be short battery life.
>
> I have a cheap Chinese adapter for putting Pentax lenses onto my X-T1, it
> works well enough. I saw an adapter with an aperture ring on it for making
> control-free lenses work.
> Truthfully, the Fuji works better than the Pentax for pre control-free
> lenses. The Fuji does away with the green button kludge and turns the X-T1
> into a crop sensor Pentax LX.
>
> The K3II is probably as good a still camera as the X-T2 for the most part.
> Perhaps not as fast, but both are 24mp sensors. The X-H1 is still 24mp, but
> it looks like it has much better video. It is also quite large.
>
> The Fuji lenses are every bit as good as anything Pentax has on the market.
> The real lovelies are the 14/2.8, 23/1.4, 35/1.4 and the 56/1.2
> I would say that those 4 are must haves.
> And yes, I have them.
>
>>
>>
>> Beyond that, Olympus make some good kit, albeit Micro 4/3rds so the pentax
>> lenses will offer different angles of view, which is not necessarily a bad
>> thing
>>
>
> My late friend and mentor, Brian Schneider used an Olympus in the later
> years. He was a Pentax and Leica user when I met him in the mid 1970s. We
> sort of lost touch for a few years, and then reconnected in the mid 1980s.
> He went from Pentax to Nikon to Canon to Panasonic to Olympus from the mid
> 80s until the end. Much of my Pentax equipment came from him. I suppose in
> a roundabout way, the PDML can thank him for the infliction that is me. I
> would likely have not looked at the brand in 35mm had it not been for him
> and the fact I already had a 6x7 (also his recommendation) and liked it and
> it’s ponderous beastliness.
>
> Here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/klatuu13/albums/with/72157642969810854
>
> If you care to look at some of his work. He went through a bit of an over
> the top HDR look for a while, but most of his work is pretty tasty.
>
>>
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Re: Steller PESO and GESO

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Scrabble is difficult but interesting;  clabbers is insane.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:53 PM, Alan C  wrote:

> Clabbers?
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: l...@red4est.com
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>
>
> That gives you a lot more options in scrabble
>
> On May 16, 2018 8:17:47 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>
>> I think stallars was my spell check..  but I have misspelled it before
>> STELLARS
>>
>> I can't spell so well on a good day
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On 5/16/2018 11:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ann sanfedele wrote:
>>>
 The one I like best with mom in it is not the sharpest but tells the
 story best, I think

 20180516-LRC45093

 > album-72157667013957077/>
>>
>>

>>> Thanks, that's also one of my favorites, for about the same reason.
>>>
>>>

 enjoyed all the snaps , though -- did I ever mentione I love

>>> Stallars
>>
>>> jays? :-)

>>>
>>> Yes you have. BTW, Steller's is spelled with two 'e's and now 'a's
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steller%27s_jay
>>>
>>>
 ann

 On 5/16/2018 8:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> Vocal trio
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/41438942014/in/album-
>> 72157667013957077/
>>
>>
>
>
> The whole set of various photos of the bird family over the past
>
 week
>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157667013957077
>
> The kids are growing up fast, starting to get color in their wings.
>
>


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