Re: PESO: Clinton Mills

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Rick.

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:14 PM Rick Womer  wrote:

> Dan,
>
> The Old Stone mill is a very nice photo, but the Red Mill is lovely.
>
> Rick
>
> > On Apr 19, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Dale H. Cook 
> wrote:
> >
> > I am heading back to Floyd Co. VA this afternoon on a second scouting
> trip. Thanks to the local historical society I have accurate locations for
> two mills that I could not find last Tuesday, plus three other standing
> mills and two remaining water wheels, all of which I had not known of.
> Today I will have a compass to take bearings of my preferred look angles
> for all of the mills. In conjunction with an ephemeris app on my phone the
> bearings will let me plan when to return to each mill when it has optimum
> sunlight for a better photo.
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Re: OT - Covid life in NYC

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hi Ann! 

I was thinking of you today, didn't get to making a call yet. I'm glad to hear 
you and Ashley are doing okay! 
Will try to call and chat soon. :-)

Be well, stay sane, keep on going…

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> On Apr 20, 2020, at 4:36 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Guys and girls, forgive me for being in lurk mode - I am looking at Peso;s 
> and reading bits and pieces but not up to comments or sending PEso;s right now
> Kinda feel the need to do more AFK stuff.. occasional appearances on Fb 
> ecause I have two friends I play WORDS With FRIENDS with I need to cling to.
> 
> Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet and 
> pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a week 
> which is nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.
> 
> Just wanted to pop in and say hello
> 
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Re: PESO: Clinton Mills

[Rick Womer]

Dan,

The Old Stone mill is a very nice photo, but the Red Mill is lovely.

Rick

> On Apr 19, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Dale H. Cook  
> wrote:
> 
> I am heading back to Floyd Co. VA this afternoon on a second scouting trip. 
> Thanks to the local historical society I have accurate locations for two 
> mills that I could not find last Tuesday, plus three other standing mills and 
> two remaining water wheels, all of which I had not known of. Today I will 
> have a compass to take bearings of my preferred look angles for all of the 
> mills. In conjunction with an ephemeris app on my phone the bearings will let 
> me plan when to return to each mill when it has optimum sunlight for a better 
> photo.
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Re: PESO's Tres... or an unconscionable waste of Pixels

[P. J. Alling]

Well, I like it.

On 4/20/2020 7:29 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

You must have a really good camera.

On April 20, 2020 3:03:59 PM PDT, "P. J. Alling"  
wrote:

I think I'm going a little stir crazy here, however I got out yesterday

walking the dog and did a little shooting with the K-3.

First up

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--emptyStreet.html

Second

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--neighborsDog.html

Both shot with the K-3 and smc F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6.

Third  The intentionally offensively named*

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--mouseC__t.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited and 36mm
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OT - Covid life in NYC

[ann sanfedele]

Guys and girls, forgive me for being in lurk mode - I am looking at 
Peso;s and reading bits and pieces but not up to comments or sending 
PEso;s right now
Kinda feel the need to do more AFK stuff.. occasional appearances on Fb 
ecause I have two friends I play WORDS With FRIENDS with I need to cling to.


Ashley and I are fine - well fed and comfortable.  neighborhood quiet 
and pretty much very respectful.. I go out for provisions about twice a 
week which is nicer than having deliveries and actually a lot safer.


Just wanted to pop in and say hello

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Re: PESO's Tres... or an unconscionable waste of Pixels

[lrc]

You must have a really good camera.

On April 20, 2020 3:03:59 PM PDT, "P. J. Alling"  
wrote:
>I think I'm going a little stir crazy here, however I got out yesterday
>
>walking the dog and did a little shooting with the K-3.
>
>First up
>
>http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--emptyStreet.html
>
>Second
>
>http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--neighborsDog.html
>
>Both shot with the K-3 and smc F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6.
>
>Third  The intentionally offensively named*
>
>http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--mouseC__t.html
>
>Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited and 36mm 
>extension tube.
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Re: no more Santa Dave

[P. J. Alling]

Wow, you have a face...

On 4/20/2020 11:36 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

After realizing my masks do not cover up my beard i decided for Covid sake
to take it off, take it all off. Concerned droplets could get on the beard
and to my hands then face at a later date. This coil adjust be the paranoid
me thinking but its too late now.

It was a sad day but eventually i'll grow it back when things settle down,
whenever that will be

https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49797432023/

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PESO's Tres... or an unconscionable waste of Pixels

[P. J. Alling]

I think I'm going a little stir crazy here, however I got out yesterday 
walking the dog and did a little shooting with the K-3.


First up

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--emptyStreet.html

Second

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--neighborsDog.html

Both shot with the K-3 and smc F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6.

Third  The intentionally offensively named*

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--mouseC__t.html

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Re: PESO corona sky

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The windmills on the left are more or less an accident but it makes the
shot for me.
Its indeed very quiet everywhere and much much cleaner air. Bird watching
and bird listening in the garden is now a popular time killer for many
people (with a garden). Beautiful but all for the wrong reason, fingers
crossed maybe the good reasons can be found if all this is over.

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020, 21:45 Ralf R Radermacher,  wrote:

> Am 20.04.20 um 20:44 schrieb Bob Pdml:
> > It’s stunning, isn’t it? I don’t remember ever seeing such a
> crystal-like clarity in the sky above the UK, with no haze, no vapour
> trails, very clean even in central London. It really is beautiful at the
> moment.
>
> We can keep the windows open on the street side, all day, in the very
> city centre. No noise, no car exhausts, no fumes from all the restaurant
> kitchens.
>
> This morning, I've heard a bird sing so charmingly, it was almost
> unreal. No idea what it was, but I hadn't heard this particular kind
> here in many years.
>
> It is indeed beautiful, if only it weren't for all the wrong reasons.
>
> Ralf
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Re: no more Santa Dave

[Steve Cottrell]

On 20/4/20, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Shortly after Darrel & I set up house together (almost 30 years ago), we
>went out to dinner for a cheap and cheerful meal.
>
>At one point I said to Darrel, "Honey, you have potato salad in your beard." 
>
>"You don't let me save anything anymore," he responded.

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Re: OT Geso 200th anniversary parade

[David J Brooks]

Thanks

Dave

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:36 AM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> Lovely Gallery.
>
> Dan Matyola
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:30 AM David J Brooks 
> wrote:
>
> > https://www.thepassingshow.com/p887718757
> >
> > Hopefully you all can see this gallery
> >
> > Going over old folders in my lock down days and came across the Ressor
> > Family 200th anniversary in Markham Ont parade from July 2004
> > D2h and some lens not sure what
> >
> > Dave
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Re: OT: First footsteps in BOOWU-M

[Bob Pdml]

Thanks again. After your reply yesterday I retried the colour negs but this 
time used the WB dropper on what I knew to be white - the whitest part of the 
window frame in neg #28. I then inverted the curves, and this is pretty much 
what came out, which is not bad at all for current purposes - top row:

https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/4b4aeebf424b4d5aaeeadd495b883953/albums/de5820d8befe4c0a928b9af08a18ae93/assets/e00c74794c6b491f928695c2991280d1/metadata

I’ll try using the film rebate too. When it’s not obvious from the negatives 
where the best white it becomes a bit haphazard. I have ordered a roll of Ektar 
100 and will shoot a series of bracketed shots, with notes, of my white balance 
card and, when I find it, my Q-60 target. If I include these negs with a set 
then I will always know where there is a standard white, even though it will be 
different film stock, and hopefully it will be close enough for my purposes, 
which is to get a good enough positive for me to evaluate.

When the time comes to scan individual negatives for high quality output I will 
try and learn how to do this properly. It may be that I can never do it - 
certainly not by eye as I’m colourblnd - in which case the neg will have to go 
to a lab.

> On 20 Apr 2020, at 16:53, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Glad to help out! 
> 
> Removal of the crossover mask is probably the most vexing part of working 
> with color negative processing because it varies by the type of film, the 
> particular way a film was processed, and the age of the film as well. I 
> remember from working in the photofinishing lab … it was no better then, a 
> skilled print machine operator simply looked at the film and knew how much to 
> tweak the reference settings based on the experience of having down a few 
> thousand frames. 
> 
> In this album on flickr - https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/QJ437u - I show 
> a simplistic capture setup with a random B negative and then another 
> capture of a random color negative. I used the White Balance dropper on the 
> film rebate between frames to neutralize the crossover mask and then tweaked 
> it further in the finish rendered image. This particular film had a 
> relatively light crossover mask; other films have much deeper hue'ed 
> crossover masks. 
> 
> I don't know that a reference gray/color target is going to give much better 
> information than just using the rebate of the film unless it was made at the 
> same time as the original images on that same film. It's always just a rough 
> starting point for my image processing. There's as much feel and art to this 
> as there is science IMO, because we all tend to perceive color slightly 
> differently and what is too cool for one person is often just right for 
> another. Unless you're working with specific colormetric type materials and 
> needs… forensic and science data, for instance. 
> 
> For that example photo, I found that the crossover mask removal was 
> reasonable and technically about right, but that the resultant image felt a 
> little dull and cool, so I then warmed it up with a shift in the color 
> temperature and hue controls, poked at the contrast a touch. 
> 
> G
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Godfrey, that’s very helpful and I’ll experiment with your methods. 
>> I’ve already discovered dragging the tone curves; the orange mask is a bit 
>> problematic at the moment.
>> 
>> It occurs to me that if I were to shoot a slide each of a colour target and 
>> a grey card under daylight (my lightbox is 5000K), and include them on each 
>> colour index print, it might help in some way. Or I might just be 
>> overcomplicating something that only needs to be good enough, not perfect.
>> [… snip …]
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Re: no more Santa Dave

[Christine Aguila]

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 20/4/20, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> 
>> It was a sad day but eventually i'll grow it back when things settle down,
>> whenever that will be
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49797432023/
> 
> On the downside, no more 'leftovers' ;-)


Shortly after Darrel & I set up house together (almost 30 years ago), we went 
out to dinner for a cheap and cheerful meal.

At one point I said to Darrel, “Honey, you have potato salad in your beard.” 

“You don’t let me save anything anymore,” he responded.

By the way, nice look, Dave!  Very nice indeed!

Cheers, Christine



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Re: PESO corona sky

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 20.04.20 um 20:44 schrieb Bob Pdml:

It’s stunning, isn’t it? I don’t remember ever seeing such a crystal-like 
clarity in the sky above the UK, with no haze, no vapour trails, very clean 
even in central London. It really is beautiful at the moment.


We can keep the windows open on the street side, all day, in the very
city centre. No noise, no car exhausts, no fumes from all the restaurant
kitchens.

This morning, I've heard a bird sing so charmingly, it was almost
unreal. No idea what it was, but I hadn't heard this particular kind
here in many years.

It is indeed beautiful, if only it weren't for all the wrong reasons.

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Re: PESO corona sky

[Bob Pdml]

It’s stunning, isn’t it? I don’t remember ever seeing such a crystal-like 
clarity in the sky above the UK, with no haze, no vapour trails, very clean 
even in central London. It really is beautiful at the moment.

> On 20 Apr 2020, at 19:05, Toine  wrote:
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> Blue skies every day. Not a single airplane.
> Strange days...
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Re: no more Santa Dave

[Steve Cottrell]

On 20/4/20, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm rather hoping this virus business will kill off the beard fashion.

My son was filming in a care home in Nottingham today and had to wear full PPE 
inc goggles mask etc. He shaved of his beard BUT KEPT THE TACHE.

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Re: PESO corona sky

[Paul Stenquist]

Beautiful!

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Toine  wrote:
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> Blue skies every day. Not a single airplane.
> Strange days...
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Re: PESO corona sky

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The whole image suddenly made more sense when I noticed the wind turbines...
A pleasant feeling...

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Toine , 20 Nis 2020 Pzt, 21:05 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
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> Blue skies every day. Not a single airplane.
> Strange days...
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PESO corona sky

[Toine]

Blue skies every day. Not a single airplane.
Strange days...

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Re: no more Santa Dave

[Bob Pdml]

> On 20 Apr 2020, at 18:36, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 20/4/20, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> 
>> It was a sad day but eventually i'll grow it back when things settle down,
>> whenever that will be
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49797432023/
> 
> On the downside, no more 'leftovers' ;-)
> 

I’m rather hoping this virus business will kill off the beard fashion.


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Re: no more Santa Dave

[Steve Cottrell]

On 20/4/20, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>It was a sad day but eventually i'll grow it back when things settle down,
>whenever that will be
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49797432023/

On the downside, no more 'leftovers' ;-)

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Re: PESO: Deflated

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 20.04.20 um 18:54 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:


So many children are missing out on so much this year.  So sad.


Great photo and a whole story in a single frame.

The Belgian region of Basse Meuse has alreay cancelled all Cramignons
for this summer. These are a kind of polonaise by the village youth of
marriageable age, dancing all across the village, very popular events
and a highlight of the villagers' life.

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Re: PESO: Deflated

[lrc]

That's a wonderfully sad depiction of what do many of us are going through.

On April 20, 2020 9:54:58 AM PDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:
>Our townships is very spread out, and except for three small historic
>villages, homes are generally on 1/2 acre to 5 acre lots.  Children who
>are
>friends in school and in sports and other activities may not know where
>their friends live.  When one of the children has a birthday party, the
>parents tie several balloons to the mail box to help other parents find
>the
>house.
>
>One of the children in the house across the street from our had a
>birthday,
>and their parents put balloons on the mail box, even though, because of
>the
>COVID-19 restrictions, no birthday party with other children is
>possible.
>The balloons deflated quickly, an apt symbol of the way the chid's
>dreams
>of a party with all of his/her friends were deflated.
>So many children are missing out on so much this year.  So sad.
>
>http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/4/20/deflated
>
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PESO: Deflated

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Our townships is very spread out, and except for three small historic
villages, homes are generally on 1/2 acre to 5 acre lots.  Children who are
friends in school and in sports and other activities may not know where
their friends live.  When one of the children has a birthday party, the
parents tie several balloons to the mail box to help other parents find the
house.

One of the children in the house across the street from our had a birthday,
and their parents put balloons on the mail box, even though, because of the
COVID-19 restrictions, no birthday party with other children is possible.
The balloons deflated quickly, an apt symbol of the way the chid's dreams
of a party with all of his/her friends were deflated.
So many children are missing out on so much this year.  So sad.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2020/4/20/deflated

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Re: no more Santa Dave

[Paul Stenquist]

It’s a good look!

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:36 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> After realizing my masks do not cover up my beard i decided for Covid sake
> to take it off, take it all off. Concerned droplets could get on the beard
> and to my hands then face at a later date. This coil adjust be the paranoid
> me thinking but its too late now.
> 
> It was a sad day but eventually i'll grow it back when things settle down,
> whenever that will be
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49797432023/
> 
> Dave
> 
> Crappy cell phone selfie
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Re: OT: First footsteps in BOOWU-M

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Glad to help out! 

Removal of the crossover mask is probably the most vexing part of working with 
color negative processing because it varies by the type of film, the particular 
way a film was processed, and the age of the film as well. I remember from 
working in the photofinishing lab … it was no better then, a skilled print 
machine operator simply looked at the film and knew how much to tweak the 
reference settings based on the experience of having down a few thousand 
frames. 

In this album on flickr - https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/QJ437u - I show a 
simplistic capture setup with a random B negative and then another capture of 
a random color negative. I used the White Balance dropper on the film rebate 
between frames to neutralize the crossover mask and then tweaked it further in 
the finish rendered image. This particular film had a relatively light 
crossover mask; other films have much deeper hue'ed crossover masks. 

I don't know that a reference gray/color target is going to give much better 
information than just using the rebate of the film unless it was made at the 
same time as the original images on that same film. It's always just a rough 
starting point for my image processing. There's as much feel and art to this as 
there is science IMO, because we all tend to perceive color slightly 
differently and what is too cool for one person is often just right for 
another. Unless you're working with specific colormetric type materials and 
needs… forensic and science data, for instance. 

For that example photo, I found that the crossover mask removal was reasonable 
and technically about right, but that the resultant image felt a little dull 
and cool, so I then warmed it up with a shift in the color temperature and hue 
controls, poked at the contrast a touch. 

G

> On Apr 19, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Godfrey, that’s very helpful and I’ll experiment with your methods. 
> I’ve already discovered dragging the tone curves; the orange mask is a bit 
> problematic at the moment.
> 
> It occurs to me that if I were to shoot a slide each of a colour target and a 
> grey card under daylight (my lightbox is 5000K), and include them on each 
> colour index print, it might help in some way. Or I might just be 
> overcomplicating something that only needs to be good enough, not perfect.
> [… snip …]


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Re: Mysterious Adobe file

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The final ever perpetual license version of Lightroom was v6.14 (reference: 
https://www.dpreview.com/news/5525938279/adobe-has-released-the-final-standalone-version-of-lightroom
 ). 

Any version later than that is some variant of subscription Lightroom, when all 
the version numbers became confusing being due to both the variant and what 
instance the updater had installed on your particular system. (My current 
installation of Lightroom Classic says it is 9.2.1 [202004070813-7699d98a] in 
the Finder "Get Info" panel. Inside the running app, in its About dialog box, 
LR reports that it contains Camera Raw 12.2.1 and the Release and Build data 
matches what the Finder reports.)

"Adobepatchinstaller" and "payloads" sound like the usually invisible files 
that the Adobe updater/software manager/creative cloud uses to do updates. If 
you're running Lightroom v6.1, it was probably downloaded in error by whatever 
Adobe software manager is installed and active on your system. I saw this 
happen a couple of times when I was running versions of perpetual license LR 
6.x prior to installing v6.14. Then all such activity ceased.

I doubt there's anything to worry about, other than the fact that LR 6.1 is way 
out of date and is incompatible with later macOS, cameras, and other stuff. If 
it's working fine for your purposes, so far, just delete the folder and keep 
going. It's the kind of thing that can happen when you're running older, now 
obsolete, software revisions that talk back to their issuing server 
occasionally and it runs into commands that it was not designed to work with. 

I see very few problems now, other than the nagware aspect of the Creative 
Cloud software manager always notifying me that something needs attention, even 
when I've made the setting to turn off ALL notifications. I mostly just ignore 
it. :D

G


> On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 20.04.20 um 03:55 schrieb Rick Womer:
>> This evening a folder appeared on my (Mac) desktop, labelled 
>> “Lightroom-6.9.0-Update.”
> 
> My LR6 is version 6.6.1 and to my knowledge the last version they've
> issued before going for the ransomware scheme. Hence, a version 6.9.0
> sounds very suspicious.


> On Apr 19, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> This evening a folder appeared on my (Mac) desktop, labelled 
> “Lightroom-6.9.0-Update.”
> It contains two files, “Adobepatchinstaller" and “payloads.”
> Does anyone here know what this is about? I’m happily using LR 6.1.



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Re: Mysterious Adobe file

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, all.

It’s 6.14 that I’ve been running.

I deleted the mysterious files, and am scanning all my hardware (690,000 files 
down, 16.4 million to go…).

Rick

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> The final ever perpetual license version of Lightroom was v6.14 (reference: 
> https://www.dpreview.com/news/5525938279/adobe-has-released-the-final-standalone-version-of-lightroom
>  ). 
> 
> Any version later than that is some variant of subscription Lightroom, when 
> all the version numbers became confusing being due to both the variant and 
> what instance the updater had installed on your particular system. (My 
> current installation of Lightroom Classic says it is 9.2.1 
> [202004070813-7699d98a] in the Finder "Get Info" panel. Inside the running 
> app, in its About dialog box, LR reports that it contains Camera Raw 12.2.1 
> and the Release and Build data matches what the Finder reports.)
> 
> "Adobepatchinstaller" and "payloads" sound like the usually invisible files 
> that the Adobe updater/software manager/creative cloud uses to do updates. If 
> you're running Lightroom v6.1, it was probably downloaded in error by 
> whatever Adobe software manager is installed and active on your system. I saw 
> this happen a couple of times when I was running versions of perpetual 
> license LR 6.x prior to installing v6.14. Then all such activity ceased.
> 
> I doubt there's anything to worry about, other than the fact that LR 6.1 is 
> way out of date and is incompatible with later macOS, cameras, and other 
> stuff. If it's working fine for your purposes, so far, just delete the folder 
> and keep going. It's the kind of thing that can happen when you're running 
> older, now obsolete, software revisions that talk back to their issuing 
> server occasionally and it runs into commands that it was not designed to 
> work with. 
> 
> I see very few problems now, other than the nagware aspect of the Creative 
> Cloud software manager always notifying me that something needs attention, 
> even when I've made the setting to turn off ALL notifications. I mostly just 
> ignore it. :D
> 
> G
> 
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 20.04.20 um 03:55 schrieb Rick Womer:
>>> This evening a folder appeared on my (Mac) desktop, labelled 
>>> “Lightroom-6.9.0-Update.”
>> 
>> My LR6 is version 6.6.1 and to my knowledge the last version they've
>> issued before going for the ransomware scheme. Hence, a version 6.9.0
>> sounds very suspicious.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> This evening a folder appeared on my (Mac) desktop, labelled 
>> “Lightroom-6.9.0-Update.”
>> It contains two files, “Adobepatchinstaller" and “payloads.”
>> Does anyone here know what this is about? I’m happily using LR 6.1.
> 
> 
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Re: no more Santa Dave

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Quite a dramatic make-over!

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:38 AM David J Brooks  wrote:

> After realizing my masks do not cover up my beard i decided for Covid sake
> to take it off, take it all off. Concerned droplets could get on the beard
> and to my hands then face at a later date. This coil adjust be the paranoid
> me thinking but its too late now.
>
> It was a sad day but eventually i'll grow it back when things settle down,
> whenever that will be
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49797432023/
>
> Dave
>
> Crappy cell phone selfie
>
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no more Santa Dave

[David J Brooks]

After realizing my masks do not cover up my beard i decided for Covid sake
to take it off, take it all off. Concerned droplets could get on the beard
and to my hands then face at a later date. This coil adjust be the paranoid
me thinking but its too late now.

It was a sad day but eventually i'll grow it back when things settle down,
whenever that will be

https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49797432023/

Dave

Crappy cell phone selfie

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Re: OT Geso 200th anniversary parade

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Lovely Gallery.

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:30 AM David J Brooks  wrote:

> https://www.thepassingshow.com/p887718757
>
> Hopefully you all can see this gallery
>
> Going over old folders in my lock down days and came across the Ressor
> Family 200th anniversary in Markham Ont parade from July 2004
> D2h and some lens not sure what
>
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OT Geso 200th anniversary parade

[David J Brooks]

https://www.thepassingshow.com/p887718757

Hopefully you all can see this gallery

Going over old folders in my lock down days and came across the Ressor
Family 200th anniversary in Markham Ont parade from July 2004
D2h and some lens not sure what

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Re: Mysterious Adobe file

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 20.04.20 um 03:55 schrieb Rick Womer:

This evening a folder appeared on my (Mac) desktop, labelled 
“Lightroom-6.9.0-Update.”


My LR6 is version 6.6.1 and to my knowledge the last version they've
issued before going for the ransomware scheme. Hence, a version 6.9.0
sounds very suspicious.

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Re: Mysterious Adobe file

[John]

It might be from Adobe. Those are the names Adobe uses for its CC updates. I 
think they also use it for Adobe Acrobat updates.


If you're working from home now did you recently need to update the Acrobat 
reader?

On 4/20/2020 10:16:21, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Ask Adobe? Send them the folder?  If as others have said this is a hack 
attempt, Adobe should be told about it…

stan


On Apr 19, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

This evening a folder appeared on my (Mac) desktop, labelled 
“Lightroom-6.9.0-Update.”

It contains two files, “Adobepatchinstaller" and “payloads.”

Does anyone here know what this is about? I’m happily using LR 6.1.

Rick
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Re: Mysterious Adobe file

[Bob Pdml]

Have you googled it? There are sites which tell you what mysterious files are. 
They are legitimate file names- you could verify by comparing sizes with the 
official versions.

I googled briefly when your email appeared, and it looks like the software 
adobe uses for installing auto updates, with details of the installation in the 
payload folder. If your installation of LR is set to check periodically for 
updates (without necessarily auto-updating) then it may have downloaded them as 
part of the check.

I would have thought it would do no harm to rename them, then run LR check for 
updates and see what happens. If you want to install any updates then you can 
do it with LR. I believe they are still issuing bug fixes for your version.

B

> On 20 Apr 2020, at 15:17, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> Ask Adobe? Send them the folder?  If as others have said this is a hack 
> attempt, Adobe should be told about it…
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> This evening a folder appeared on my (Mac) desktop, labelled 
>> “Lightroom-6.9.0-Update.”
>> 
>> It contains two files, “Adobepatchinstaller" and “payloads.”
>> 
>> Does anyone here know what this is about? I’m happily using LR 6.1.
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: Mysterious Adobe file

[Stanley Halpin]

Ask Adobe? Send them the folder?  If as others have said this is a hack 
attempt, Adobe should be told about it…

stan

> On Apr 19, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> This evening a folder appeared on my (Mac) desktop, labelled 
> “Lightroom-6.9.0-Update.”
> 
> It contains two files, “Adobepatchinstaller" and “payloads.”
> 
> Does anyone here know what this is about? I’m happily using LR 6.1.
> 
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