SV: Timelapse Tour of Europe
Timelapse is an excellent way to show events that unfold too slowly for humans to stay concentrated on the event. On a philosophical level there's a deep meaning in observing a flower unfold as the sun rises, a mould spreading on a petri dish, or the seasons shift. It certainly grounds you to nature in a very specific way. But then you'd also have to ask yourself if life really is long enough for that sort of thing. As a genre, timelapse has been around for more than a generation already. As with all other image-making, digital has made it available to a much, much larger group of practicioners. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Igor Roshchin Dato: 29. juli 2014 20:47 Til: PDML@pdml.net Emne: Re: OT: Timelapse Tour of Europe It is a nice set of photos, thanks for posting the link, Dan. I was thinking about it at a philosophical level: time-lape photos as a new genre. There is a recent (~20 years?) trend when we don't have time (and desire) to focus on watching anything for longer than a few seconds. So, this type of video is an alternative way of showing that. Does it look cool because of this or it is just cool? So, is it a trend du jour, or a genre that was enabled by technology and will last? I wonder what fellow PDMLers think about it. Igor Tue Jul 29 09:25:44 EDT 2014 Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://twistedsifter.com/videos/30-country-timelapse-tour-of-europe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: OT - Interesting story about car cemetry
Cool. There is a similar one in Sweden, near Töcksfors, just across the border from Norway. I do have a few shots from there, but it's in my main archive which I haven't brought online after the move yet. Here's a series from a Norwegian newspaper: http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/9486 I got two of mine into PPG. You'll have to click close on the details page to really see the image, but I haven't found any better way to share a direct link. http://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/share/20176224#.U8ZPf3-QYb4.facebook http://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/share/20174265#.U8ZQ0jkhHEg.facebook Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Igor Roshchin Dato: 16. juli 2014 06:07 Til: PDML@pdml.net Emne: OT - Interesting story about car cemetry It's an interesting photo-story of a car cemetry in Belgium: http://rt.com/news/172712-car-graveyard-chatillon-cemetry/ I thought some car enthusiasts on the list might like it. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Today morning, just recently
Sorry to hear about your predicament, Boris. Thanks for taking the time to inform. The current bombardment has reached the news up here, but news don't travel very well into my brain when on vacation. I've spent the last week at the cabin; the one you've been to. Stay well. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 13. juli 2014 05:49 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Today morning, just recently Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Mooovin' out
Hi gang, Delurking briefly. Some of you have visited us in Oslo. The time for visits at Casa Øksne in Oslo is now past. We are relocating to more rural parts in the county of Vestfold, about 100 km South of Oslo. New beds will be made available to passing PDML'ers of course. Carry on, Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - A guide to reading abstract art
Thanks for the link, Bruce. :-) What I miss from such explanations is the importance of culture as a backdrop to understand art. This one take a step i that direction when mentioning that one might start to understand the visual language of the particular artist after seeing twenty or so works. My favourite personal example of cultural (or historical) knowledge is Guernica by Picasso. I saw that image first time as a teenager, before I'd heard anything of the Spanish Civil War. It didn't make much sense until I looked up the title in an encyclopedia. For figurative art I suspect icons are wasted on the agnostic for the same reason. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 8:18 PM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: OT - A guide to reading abstract art This may or may not help ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/13/abstract-art_n_5486273.html -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Lenovo Computers
Well yeah, *that* sucks. :-( support for Lenovo in Norway is served by a contracted independent vendor. I've read experiences with them as being very choosy about the kind of failures they're willing to provide service for. Sifting out the clear-cut warranty issues where they can pass the bill on to Lenovo, no doubt. Liked the term PassingthoughtPad. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- This isn't a Thinkpad. At best it's a Passingthoughtpad. It wasn't an especially expensive machine, and my major complaint with it is actually the local warranty center who didn't just drop the ball, he ignored that there was a ball. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lenovo Computers
Sorry to hear your experience, Bill. My previous workplace used Lenovos. All business model ThinkPads, in various sizes and over many processor generations. The total inhouse stock of them was about 40-50 machines at any time. They were extremely durable and reliable. I had three of them myself over the years. Never broke down, just got outdated on processing power. I also bought two ThinkPads for my sons, and the experience there has been the same; both machines have endured the abuse of gaming teenagers. So naturally I'm a little surprised by the categoric dismissal of all things Lenovo, but maybe it's a different story for their non-ThinkPad models. Jostein On 14. februar 2014 17:26:05 GMT+01:00, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't remember Lenovo being one of the Chinese vendors the IBM PC Company used. When I was working there all of the Chinese vendors were based in Taiwan. IBM's home/consumer Aptiva line was sub-contracted to ACER. The IBM PC (the commercial line) was still manufactured/assembled in the USA. Lenovo acquired the right to use IBM's name on their PCs for 5 years after they bought the PC Company in 2005. Expiration of those rights are why Lenovo started putting their own name on their products. IBM had great technology, but their marketing business plans for the PC Company sucked. There was always an inherent conflict between the PC Company IBM's core business - mainframes services. The PC Company always ended up as the red-headed step-child. On 2/13/2014 6:07 PM, John Coyle wrote: My suspicions were aroused when IBM dropped Lenovo as their Chinese manufacturer 9couple of years ago?), and Lenovo started manufacturing and marketing under their own brand name. IBM generally has a good reason for such actions! In Australia, the law is that the retailer has responsibility for repairs to defective items - and , IMHO, a keyboard should last more than a year or so, so it was defective - 'not up to purpose' is the legal phrase, I think. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 7:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Lenovo Computers A year ago, I bought my wife a Lenovo laptop. Apparently these machines aren't the best there is, but this was for very light home use, my wife does nothing with a home computer beyond a bit of web surfing. She doesn't even have a home email address. Anyway, she told me a month ago that the keyboard was faulty, and several keys didn't work. Apparently, the Lenovo warranty is one year, and the machine was off warranty by manufacture date. Eventually, I was able to get Lenovo to extend the warranty to the retail sales date, so I took it in to the shop where a bad keyboard was diagnosed. The repair depot has now decided that they have no knowledge of the computer coming in to be looked at, and now the warranty has expired. Note to self, do not EVER buy another Lenovo computer. Friends don't let friends buy Lenovo. bill -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography
His House In The Woods -project got some good press here in Scandinavia about a year ago. Interesting how he combines decay of man-made structures and animal photography. I love his image aestethics. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bruce Walker Dato: 31. januar 2014 01:53 Til: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Emne: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography This Finnish photographer's stuff is really remarkable ... http://www.kafa.fi/pages/gallery1.php http://www.kafa.fi/pages/the-house-in-the-woods.php -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
Are we talking alpint, jumping, cross-country or X-games kinda skiing here? :-) My own experience is with cross-country. I bring the usual backpack, and a snoot bag with harness to fit across my chest for easy access to camera. When maneuvering in snow, make sure you have your arms free. That's important whether you're skiing yourself, use snowshoes or just unadorned legs. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 5:56 PM To: PDML List Subject: Question: Skiing and Photography Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: OT: Chasing Ice
Absolutely, it's good stuff. We've obtained the rights to showcase his film at the Norwegian Nature Photo Festival in March. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Daniel J. Matyola Dato: 24. januar 2014 01:56 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: OT: Chasing Ice Saw this documentary about the work of James Balog recently. It shows a really devoted photographer at work, and is extremely interesting for his subject matter of the disappearing glaciers of the Arctic. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1579361/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIZTMVNBjc4 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I have committed a book
Thank you Jan! Glad you liked it! :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Jan van Wijk Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 8:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I have committed a book Hi Jostein, From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Received the hardcover version of the book two days ago. Really VERY GOOD, I have been to many of those places several times myself and you caught the essence for most of them ... Well done! Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- This email was Anti Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.astaro.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: OT - Interesting Lawsuit by Empre State Bldg vs Topless Photog!
Mark! -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bruce Walker Holy crap in a bun. How far out of proportion can something be pushed before it reaches escape velocity? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - Only In Vegas
My kids demanded souvenirs from the Strip, so I had to draw my breath and dive in for a couple of hours. I thought Hard Rock Cafe would be a relatively safe target, but even they had their own casino. I regret not taking pics of their clientele. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: eactiv...@aol.com Dato: 14. januar 2014 20:43 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: PESO - Only In Vegas Wish I had had time to do a whole series of Only In Vegas shots, while there, but didn't. Slot machines in 7-11's, etc. For those of you not in the US, Denny's is a very prosaic restaurant chain, sort of middle of the road dinning. Not the cheapest there is (those are fast-food drive thrus), but definitely not at the upper end either. So seeing a Denny's like this amused me. Taken from my car, not very well, with the X-5. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/onlyvegas.html A just for fun shot. Comments welcome, but I don't think it merits any real critiquing. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESOs: polar vortex + window
Good thing I didn't send any of my attempts at frozen water from last year for the book, they would have fallen through completely. A very nice set, Christine. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Christine Nielsen Dato: 10. januar 2014 16:36 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: PESOs: polar vortex + window Thanks, everyone, for the kind remarks! Maybe I will get my act together this year for the book, after all ... :) This is what I found myself doing while I should have been taking care of real work ... It's been a while since I was just able to play with the camera. Y'know, I find I really like photography, I should do it more often! lol. I will say, I enjoy using the focus peaking on the K-01 and zooming in live view, makes it much easier to really nail focus. Now I kinda wish I had one of those 200mm macros to get in closer. Hmm ... :) -c On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Christine Nielsen wrote: Hi all happy new year! Oh yes! You should send one or two of those in for the PDML book :) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: I have committed a book
It's a deadline for books that do not sell any copies. An author ordering his own copy will cancel this deadline, so one sale is enough for Blurb. However I already have an author's copy with some slight design mistakes. They are correted in the currently available version, but I don't bother buying any more copies for myself. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 8. januar 2014 05:55 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: I have committed a book Man, you're *good*... Now, I suppose I should be getting a copy... Why's the 2 weeks limit? On 1/6/2014 7:45 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SV: I have committed a book
The book was designed inside Lightroom. In LR-5 you don't have to save as PDF and then upload. There's a button for direct upload to Blurb that takes care of the whole thing. Jostein Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Jostein, Did you make the book using the blurb software? Or did you make it in lightroom, indesign or something else that will let you export a PDF copy? It's an excellent collection of photos by the way. I suspect that 1) You could just print them up and have a show ready to go. 2) You could use the book to advertise photo trips to California and the SouthWest states. How many people signing up would it take to finance you for a trip? Set up several consecutive week long trips that people could sign up for whichever ones they wanted/could afford. I suspect that photos of Sunny California (tm) would make for a very attractive travel brochure in Oslo, sometime around March. On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 12:03:00PM +0100, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: It's a deadline for books that do not sell any copies. An author ordering his own copy will cancel this deadline, so one sale is enough for Blurb. However I already have an author's copy with some slight design mistakes. They are correted in the currently available version, but I don't bother buying any more copies for myself. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 8. januar 2014 05:55 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: I have committed a book Man, you're *good*... Now, I suppose I should be getting a copy... Why's the 2 weeks limit? On 1/6/2014 7:45 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I have committed a book
Regarding 1), yes -almost. There are a few more shots and places I would include in a talk. :-) As to 2), I think that would have been great fun. Unfortunately I don't think I'd be able to pull it off this year because of other commitments. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Larry Colen It's an excellent collection of photos by the way. I suspect that 1) You could just print them up and have a show ready to go. 2) You could use the book to advertise photo trips to California and the SouthWest states. How many people signing up would it take to finance you for a trip? Set up several consecutive week long trips that people could sign up for whichever ones they wanted/could afford. I suspect that photos of Sunny California (tm) would make for a very attractive travel brochure in Oslo, sometime around March. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I have committed a book
-Opprinnelig melding- From: Larry Colen Yes, but that means you could make a pdf version of the book available. Well you can do that too if you like. There are three kinds of books to choose from; blurb, PDF and JPG. Never tried the latter. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: I have committed a book
Ann put it quite succinctly. :-) Actually, I think about half the shots in the book are produced around sunrise or sunset. Another fourty percent are from normal hours, and the rest are night shots. I totally agree with Ann and the others commenting on the quality of the light. I certainly prefer the light that happens when the sun is close to the horizon. Another factor is that I soon realised that the midday hours were the best for doing the transport legs. I could be more efficient if arriving at a new place with a couple of daylight hours left to do reconnoisance, procure maps, pay entrance fees to parks, etc. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Alan C Dato: 6. januar 2014 20:44 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: I have committed a book Quite amazing. I enjoyed your shots almost as much as you must have enjoyed the trip. The dawn dusk part intrigues me - what about the rest of the day? Alan C -Original Message- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 7:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: I have committed a book From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: I have committed a book
Hardcover and softcover editions now here: http://www.blurb.com/search/site_search?search=alunfoto I will not purchase any more personal copies, so Blurb will only list this book for fifteen days unless somebody actually buy something. Price is set at cost. I'm a bit overwhelmed by the interest, but glad to be able to share this with you guys. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Steve Cottrell Dato: 6. januar 2014 19:29 Til: pentax list Emne: Re: I have committed a book On 6/1/14, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Is there a soft cover version at all? VERY impressive. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: I have committed a book
By Cotty's standards I think it amounts to a hundred lashes with a wet noodle. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Jack Davis Dato: 6. januar 2014 20:04 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: I have committed a book What's the penalty for that? Jack From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 9:45 AM Subject: I have committed a book From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: I have committed a book
Thanks for the heads-up, Steve. Good thing I didn't put that description anywhere inside the book... :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: steve harley Dato: 7. januar 2014 04:03 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: I have committed a book on 2014-01-06 10:45 Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS wonderful photos; i think i like some of the fire bristlecone scenes best, but every shot was worth a second look; also nice to get a little bit of your thoughts mixed in a note on geographic idiom: the US southwest is vaguely defined; you are using a broad definition, which seems justified by the map, but i think most people here wouldn't consider California part of the southwest; US region names have a historical bias from times when most people lived near the east coast; this is most obvious in the definition of midwest, which is mostly east of center -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: I have committed a book
A three weeks roadtrip for an area the size of whole of Scandinavia (at least), can't be anything but touch-and-go. In my honest opinion that makes all pictures obtained this way into travelogue shots regardless of the sun's position in the sky at the time of pressing the button. To be honest, I mentally regard the whole trip as reconnoisance for further trips some time in the future. In particular I'd love to go back to the High Sierras and to Death Valley. Awesome places that deserve a lot more attention than I had time to give them. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Ken Waller Dato: 7. januar 2014 06:36 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: I have committed a book Dawn and dusk: the golden hours - In between its mostly travelogue photography. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I have committed a book Dawn and dusk: the golden hours. Or, as Ann said... Cheers, frank Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Quite amazing. I enjoyed your shots almost as much as you must have enjoyed the trip. The dawn dusk part intrigues me - what about the rest of the day? Alan C -Original Message- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 7:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: I have committed a book From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Jostein “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Bungendore annual show
Interesting that they have horses the size of small dogs. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: mike wilson Dato: 7. januar 2014 14:31 Til: pdml Emne: Bungendore annual show A small town just outside Canberra. The poster made me laugh. Can you see why? http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5487/11813184734_3ec584fd9f.jpg Apologies for the crap and flickrness of it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: I have committed a book
Try this: http://www.blurb.com/search/site_search?search=alunfoto or this: http://www.blurb.com/user/store/Alunfoto -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: David J Brooks Dato: 7. januar 2014 15:27 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: I have committed a book On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Jostein Page not found, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I have committed a book
From the USA roadtrip. Preview available. http://blur.by/1g87VCS Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: stitching photos
May have been AutoPano: http://www.kolor.com/buy/software Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Larry Colen Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 10:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: stitching photos A while back, I mentioned that what I really wanted was software that would take multiple raw files, convert the values into absolute light levels on each of the three channels (I.e. expand the dynamic range of the image data by combining different exposure frames) and then stitch those frames together into a panorama that could then be processed in lightroom. Someone mentioned some software that they said would do pretty close to what I wanted. I saved that email someplace, but don't remember where off hand. Now that I have an SI buttload of panoramas with each frame taken at several exposure levels from my recent trip, something that would combine those frames into a high resolution, expanded dynamic range file that I could process in lightroom would be very handy. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question - how to achieve this effect in LR (or PS)?
Not sure if this is what you're thinking of, but it will approximate the effect: 1. Duplicate layer 2. Filters - stylize - emboss 3. Reduce opacity of embossed layer Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Igor Roshchin Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 6:48 AM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Question - how to achieve this effect in LR (or PS)? In LR, when you hold Alt and move the sharpen radius slider, LR shows essentially the edge of the objects. Is it possible achieve that effect in the actual image in LR? If not, - what would be the easiest way to reproduce that in Photoshop? (I've done something along the way last time a couple of years ago, but it would take me some time to recall that. But even in that case it was not quite the same as for what one sees in LR) Thank you in advance, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photos from Big Sur, the desert and Death Valley
You sure got a lot out of that week, Larry! My stay in Beatty was just one night; arriving after sunset and setting out early. I see I missed a good opportunity. Love that house on Beyond Hope Street. Is your Tamron an AF lens? AstroTrace only works with AF lenses. It's sad that the focal length info from SR does not carry over to AstroTrace. :-( Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Larry Colen Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 9:35 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photos from Big Sur, the desert and Death Valley Oops, I forgot the link the photos from Beatty Nevada: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157639419490396/ On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 12:17:41AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: I just spent slightly less than a week on the road. I took my usual metric shitload of photos, a lot of which were just happy snaps and many were for stitching into panoramas if/when I have a chance. I did get a few that didn't suck too badly. I drove down to LA on Sunday by way of Big Sur, the weather was beautiful, and the roads were clogged with tourists. In the future, I think that I'll do my best to avoid Big Sur on weekends. I managed to spend a few hours at Limekiln, which was one of my favorite places to go as a kid. Big Sur: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157639424720424/ We spent our first night in the desert in Mojave. That evening we tried to find the site of Nowak's opal mine, were we used to hunt for fire opal when I was a kid. We spent some time driving dirt roads in Lorry, my Dodge van. I had fun, Candace didn't really enjoy the off road experience. I tried to use my astrotracer and the tamron 300/2.8 to get some photos of Andromeda but failed miserably. I did play a bit with my Korean fisheye though. The next morning we had brunch at the Voyager Cafe at the Mojave spaceport. That evening we drove as far a Lone Pine, which turned out to be far more scenic than we expected and we ended up spending an extra day there. Desert: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157639424755274/ The following day we drove out Death Valley, getting in a little shooting before sunset. I had fun trying to catch the new moon setting. Didn't quite get the shot I wanted, but it was still fun. We spent the night in Beatty Nevada, about 45 minutes out of the park, and surprisingly picturesque. That night we did some night photography in the ghost town of Rhyolite. I played a bit with my astrotracer. Most of Friday was spent at Zabriskie Point, which is ridiculously scenic. We got there in the mid afternoon. I think that for a lot of the photos, the lighting would be best in the morning. The walk down to the valley floor is much easier than it looks, and well worth it, especially in the canyons to the left of the lookout, looking towards the desert. It's very easy to get beautiful shots of the gorgeous rock formations, but a bit more challenging to get shots that aren't monontonously beautiful, all looking pretty much alike. I did manage to get a little bit lost on my way back out of the canyon, and climbing out of canyons, in the dark (albeit with headlamp), up steep dirt cliffs, when overweight and out of shape was a special kind of fun. Death Valley: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157639424829284/ Candice has posted a couple of sets from her trip: Mojave: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccmonty/sets/72157639413836205/ Red Rock Canyon: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccmonty/sets/72157639412196866/ If I have some spare time, I may go back and process and post some more photos from the trip. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photos from Big Sur, the desert and Death Valley
That's the twist. :-( The camera requires info from the lens on focal length to rotate the SR mechanism correctly. Without knowing the technical details it seems like a breach of logic that you can input focal length manually for SR but not for AstroTrace. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Larry Colen I didn't know the astrotracer only works with auto focus. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Photo Annual 2014 submissions start January 1st!
Selection accomplished. Thanks for keeping this tradition, Mark. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:10 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PDML Photo Annual 2014 submissions start January 1st! Starting at midnight (approximately), you can submit photos for the next version of the PDML Photo Annual. Here's the URL: http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php Same general rules as last year: Submit up to three shots. One definitely gets in the book, another might if space is available. No charge, no obligation to purchase the book. Entries accepted up until 28 February, 2014. All the other rules/details are on the web page. As before, all profits go to the Pediatric Oncology Global Health Initiative of the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and Boston Children's Hospital. And after being founded almost three years ago they finally have their own page on the Dana-Farber/Boston Children's web site: http://www.danafarberbostonchildrens.org/Why-Choose-Us/Global-Health.aspx Hooray! (Bureaucracy moves very slowly...) We hope to have a mention of the PDML book on it when the 2014 edition is done. So send us your best shots... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Applemacsoft dot com
Maybe this can help you out, Dave: http://www.xnview.com/en/xnconvert/ Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: David J Brooks Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Applemacsoft dot com and it does not convert my k25 files as listed on the web site. Siggh Dave On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:33 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:02 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-01-02 23:43 David J Brooks wrote any one used any of their products. I found my old Kodak .K25 files from my Kodak DC25 camera and need a converter program. They have one but i'm not sure about the company.: http://www.applemacsoft.com/graphic-converter/ i think i used it several times 15-20 years ago i think a client of mine (who does graphic production) still uses it now and then Thanks. Downloaded the trial Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - Passerby (lingerie edition)
Very interesting capture. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Marco Alpert Dato: 31. desember 2013 08:14 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: PESO - Passerby (lingerie edition) http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso28.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Ping
Ricochet piiiuuug -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 31. desember 2013 18:23 Til: Pentax-Discuss List Emne: Ping Nexus 4 sends regards -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Regarding the assessment of raw image technical qualities (i.e.correct exposure, focus, sharpness, etc.)
I agree with Bob S., you've painted yourself into a corner, Ciprian. One ballpark indicator of technically acceptable recordings is the histogram. If it doesn't pile up on the edges, it's basically okay because there is information in the deepest shadows and/or brightest highlights. When editing, make sure you don't clip it. Beyond that, play. As Paul says, your eye is a far better judge of quality than software. And just like AIs or neural networks, it has to be trained by being presented to a lot of examples. The analogy probably doesn't hold much further than that, but you'll do good to indulge yourself. Leisurely. best, Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Ciprian Dorin Craciun Dato: 30. desember 2013 17:13 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Regarding the assessment of raw image technical qualities (i.e.correct exposure, focus, sharpness, etc.) Hello all! Before describing the problem, please let me stress that I know very well that the quality of a photograph lies more in its aesthetic properties than in its technical ones. However in this thread I don't discuss about photographs, but images, i.e. the raw data (pixel values) that are totally decoupled with what they represent. (Thus I hope I won't start a flame-war regarding aesthetics vs. technical qualities.) (If you want to skip the context and go directly to the problem, just go to the section titled `The questions`.) == The context == So the problem, I always capture images --- note how I didn't say photographs :) --- in RAW format. And, while working in fully manual mode, very often I obtain multiple images of the same scene, where the main variable is the exposure time. Also while in low light, either interior or at night, I strive to use a low ISO like 200-400 thus with an exposure time of about 1/10 of a second, and although the SR is enabled, I always use continuous drive (in low mode) to take about three exposures, in the hope that one of them is sharper. The problem? During the editing process, after I select which scenes are the ones I like the best, I end up with a lot of images of the same scene (with almost identical composition). And thus my problem is which of the two or three images is the most suitable one, in terms of technical properties, to be used as input for processing (thus obtaining in the end my photograph). == The questions == Thus my questions are the following: (A) Which are the technical qualities I should look for in the image? (B) What software tools exist out there that would help in the assessment of these technical qualities? == My answers == For (A), the technical qualities, I've identified the following: * Is the subject properly focused? I.e. since I use auto-focus, sometimes with slim subjects it might happen that the camera focuses on the background. * Is the image sharp enough? I.e. not blurry due to shake, miss-focus (back or front), subject movement, etc. * Is the exposure correct / optimal? I.e. especially since I use ETTR (expose-to-the-right): * did I overexposed something, and if so which channels, which parts of the picture, where are the next shadows relative to the highlights, etc.; * do I have underexposed areas, and like above how much, etc. Did I miss other technical properties? I've purposely dismissed the following: * noise -- which by its nature is a property of the sensor and constant in effect for a given ISO value; * depth-of-field -- which manifests itself as a lack of sharpness for the objects outside the DOF; (although it would be nice to be able to estimate how far a given pixel is outside the DOF;) * flare -- they are easily discerned in the image; * bokeh, vignetting, distortion, acutance, etc. -- which are invariable properties of the lens (for a given aperture and focal length); (and bokeh is a highly subjective quality;) * chromatic aberrations -- like above, although would be nice to highlight them; Unfortunately for (B), how to asses these qualities, I have a few theories (see the next section titled `The science-fiction`) and less ready-to-use solutions... First the solutions. Currently I'm using Geeqie (an Linux-based image manager) to find the scenes I like, and for each scene which are the obvious failed images, i.e. those with clear over- or under-exposure or blur, and I end up with a few candidates. However even if I zoom 100% I don't see the raw image, but the embedded JPEG, which was already processed by the camera, thus I can't correctly assess the sharpness nor the exact exposure optimality (due to white balance). Thus I then switch to RawTherapee --- which I've configured so that by default it doesn't apply any settings at all, just neutral or disabled values --- to look at the raw channels histogram, the exact image without added sharpening, and the focus mask. However I can't use the blinkers (i.e. underexposure / overexposure masks)
SV: Snowflakes
I think it's authentic. I've seen somwhere how he makes his images, and it includes a small-sensor camera; a sort of hacked compact. That gives him more DOF. In addition he use advanced stacking techniques; to the point I suspect him to be a bored astrophotographer looking for something to do under the snowing clouds. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: mike wilson Dato: 30. desember 2013 09:40 Til: pdml Emne: Snowflakes What do the snowfalkeistas think of this set? http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaoticmind75/sets/72157626146319517/ For the non-flickrs amongst us. ww.komonews.com/weather/blogs/scott/Photographer-gets-incredible-close-up-shots-of-snowflakes-234273781.html They seem too good to be true but I can't believe anyone would be bothered to fake them. Seasonal greetings and the very best wishes for the new year to all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: OT: Coolest email I've gotten in a while...
Congratulations! Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Charles Robinson Dato: 20. desember 2013 03:47 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: OT: Coolest email I've gotten in a while... Just got this in my inbox: Dear Charles, my name is Wolfgang Flür, I was a Kraftwerk member from 1973-1986 (all albums / tours), the electro drummer. Today I have found your photos from us of the 1981 Computerworld tour in Bremen and am so what of excited. You are a very good photographer I find. My quest is if I can use some for them for my website like a little slideshow for instance for all Kraftwerk fans and include your photographer's name of course. Would be very nice to hear positive from you. Are you still living in Germany? Very best greetings, merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family, Wolfgang Flür WOW! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Noch ein ping
Merry christmas, Bob: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN_EG9M4cmU Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bob W Dato: 20. desember 2013 12:54 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Noch ein ping Es ist gut gepingen. Hoffentlich werde ich noch nicht wiederpingen mussen On 20 Dec 2013, at 11:51, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Gnip nie hcon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Photoshop christmas
http://vimeo.com/81847258 :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: What is photographic art?
I produce art. On the pretext that you spell art with an f. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: DagT Dato: 17. desember 2013 23:23 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: What is photographic art? I don´t care if my pictures are art or not. It doesn´t make them any better. DagT 17. des. 2013 kl. 23:03 skrev Walt ldott...@gmail.com: Of course my photos are art. And so is everything else I do if you leave it to me to be the judge. -- Walt On 12/16/2013 8:45 AM, CollinB wrote: When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. But popularity, it seems, destroys art. (eg, the mobile went from an art form to a baby crib toy) Kodak is to blame for the change in photography and that was about a century ago. There is a remnant of photographic art. Some here do it quite well. Others of us just try hard. Art is more than the individualism of the eye of the beholder. Such pomo definitions destroy all meaning. Art is a rigorous creation, an image which speaks clearly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Boris PESO x3
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman #53 - At sea. I have developed an affinity to soft focus lenses... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/12/2013-53-at-sea.html In this one I think the soft ships and the hazy horizon become too much softness in one go. #54 - Cause and effect. Totally accidental, but fun nonetheless, at least IMHO... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/12/2013-54-cause-and-effect.html It's a funny situation. The composition doesn't work very well for me, I keep wishing there was less dark space on the right hand side of the photo. #55 - Leaving. Some of you have seen a mini gallery of 4 shots that I've taken almost without leaving the house... Girls played (wet) snowballs, and where I live, this is pretty much unheard of... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/12/2013-55-leaving.html I can see how this motif has an exotic appeal to you. I think you explored a rare situation well with this one. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My trip to Italy
Nice gallery, Mark. I don't know how much worth a Norwegian's knowledge about Italian flora actually has, but maybe it can help you along a bit of the way. 7dd03107: Probably same genus as harebell (campanula). 7dd03113 and 7dd03119: Probably the Hypericum genus. 7dd03135: A wild rose. 7dd04103: Orchid family Dactylorhiza. Tricky to determine to species. 7dd04111: Some kind of lily. Can't be of much help there. 7dd04122: Lotus sp. Check Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_%28genus%29 7dd04701: A representative of the Brassicaceae family. Possibly the same genus as winter cress (Barbarea). 7dd04721: Can't be of much help. :-( 7dd05001: I suspect another kind of lily, based on the number of petals and general look, but I'm not sure. 7dd05004: Not a heather. More likely a species in the Lamiales order, where plants like snapdragons and lavender belongs. 7dd05022: No idea about this one, sorry. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO: My trip to Italy I've just finished adding rudimentary captions to all the image pages. So if you're wondering where the hell was that you'll now be able to get a general answer. I'm still researching the names of the various flowers, though... http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/italy1/index.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - Still, Life
That is one great group shot! Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Marco Alpert Dato: 16. desember 2013 08:16 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: PESO - Still, Life http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso22.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - Late in the Season
What Brian said. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Brian Walters Dato: 15. desember 2013 23:27 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: PESO - Late in the Season Quoting Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: ...and probably covered with snow by now: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17624479size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17624479-lg.jpg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Yeah, I like that. The orange colour contrasts well with the overall muted tones of the image. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is photographic art?
-Opprinnelig melding- From: CollinB When a medium belongs exclusively to the artists then it remains an art form. But popularity, it seems, destroys art. Ironically, that seems not to apply to rhetorics. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question for those who had SDM or lens chip replaced
The symptoms you describe seems more likely to be caused by a general problem with the mount. If cleaning the contacts doesnt fix it, check the screws that holds the bayonet in place. Check both lens and camera for good measure. Jostein Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I have a question for those people who had SDM (or in general, lens chip) failed and replaced. I see that with one of the SDM lenses my K5 has the aperture and speed settings rapidly (as in crazily) fluctuating. (And the focus shows MF, regardless of the focus selector position.) I was wondering if this is one of the symptoms of the failed chip or that could be for a different reason. When I had a previous chip failure, I didn't see anything like this. When the chip failed in your lens, did you see this type of a fluctuation? I wonder if could be something else that happened to the lens. Igor -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: So, how is the wind in Norway?
MaritimTim probably felt it. Not here in Oslo. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List ; Jostein Øksne Subject: OT: So, how is the wind in Norway? http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/watch-as-strong-winds-blow-people-over-on-a-norway-street Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Church and Shadow, for Jostein
Agreed for web viewing. Still not sure about the print. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Rick Womer Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:53 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Church and Shadow, for Jostein Minus one pumpkin: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17625804size=lg The original: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17624476size=lg I think it's an improvement. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Church and Shadow
Your cropping, with the trunks on the sides symmetrically placed from both edges and the shadow in the middle, really brings focus to the shadow creeping over the church. The orange, pumpkin shaped thing on the lower left is a real eyecatcher, though, and keeps distracting me from the main theme. That may be because I can't figure out what it is at web size. It may work very well on a print. It's an interesting shot over all. Well seen. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Rick Womer Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:38 AM To: Pentax List Subject: PESO - Church and Shadow Neither NYC nor San Diego; we find ourselves now in Briarcliff, NY (outside NYC) over the Thanksgiving weekend. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17624476size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick ds -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Kai
-Opprinnelig melding- From: John http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/12/kai.html?m=1 What are oc tunes? Songs with lyrics in Occitan? :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was just thinking
Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market place?!? Well, we stick around for different kicks, I suppose. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: CollinB Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:15 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: I was just thinking Not long ago there was a thread about how so many of us have the lenses we need so the buying and selling on Friday seems less productive than in years past. Makes me think that we need to look for some new blood in the group. Shall we declare 1 month per year an evangelism month where we seek out new participants to enjoy the group's benefits? A community must, it seems grow or die. Stagnation is no real option. I am hoping Ricoh does some *innovative* things with Pentax. The K3 looks like a good start. Though given how long RD takes it was probably present but needed funding for a good launch. Now Pentax needs (as I see it) #1 A pro support program #2 Expand the lens lineup #3 Fix the AF speed/accuracy issues #4 A new an innovative product for the pro In the past I wondered about turning the sensor vertical, like the Fuji GA/GS645. #5 Take the 645 sensor and put it into a folder body like the GS645, or a ps body like the GA645. Make 40 mp quick and easy. It may be an older sensor by today's standards, but the format and potential price point could be awesome. Of course Ricoh/Pentax may never be pro with the small sensor. Imnsho, any attempt to win second place will guarantee 3rd place at best. Their sights are set too low. If you're going to play with the big boys you've got to play their game. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was just thinking
Oh my! You're too kind Bob! Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Bob Sullivan Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I was just thinking Collin, I'm not wishing too hard for a full frame body or a 645 with a big sensor. I think we have all enjoyed Jostein's marvelous photos, many with the big camera. But I also appreciate the care and effort he puts into getting those shots. He doesn't take great pictures BECAUSE he has the big camera, but in spite of it. He takes the extra care needed to make the larger format work. I'm not sure I'm a good enough photographer for that yet. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:15 AM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Not long ago there was a thread about how so many of us have the lenses we need so the buying and selling on Friday seems less productive than in years past. Makes me think that we need to look for some new blood in the group. Shall we declare 1 month per year an evangelism month where we seek out new participants to enjoy the group's benefits? A community must, it seems grow or die. Stagnation is no real option. I am hoping Ricoh does some *innovative* things with Pentax. The K3 looks like a good start. Though given how long RD takes it was probably present but needed funding for a good launch. Now Pentax needs (as I see it) #1 A pro support program #2 Expand the lens lineup #3 Fix the AF speed/accuracy issues #4 A new an innovative product for the pro In the past I wondered about turning the sensor vertical, like the Fuji GA/GS645. #5 Take the 645 sensor and put it into a folder body like the GS645, or a ps body like the GA645. Make 40 mp quick and easy. It may be an older sensor by today's standards, but the format and potential price point could be awesome. Of course Ricoh/Pentax may never be pro with the small sensor. Imnsho, any attempt to win second place will guarantee 3rd place at best. Their sights are set too low. If you're going to play with the big boys you've got to play their game. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Kai
Really like her expression. With your explanation I read a lot of things into her face about being on a stage. Great stuff. Jostein Btw, Kai is a male name over here, so I clicked the link with entirely wrong expectations... :-) -Opprinnelig melding- From: knarf Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:27 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Kai We had an open mic at the courier holiday dinner. Kai played a couple oc tunes: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/12/kai.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: fanning the flames
I've tried to stay out of this discussion, but alas... Boris' reasoning has two _big_ flaws. One is accepting that certain geographical (or virtual in the sense of facebook) areas are exempt from common sense and law. I can see no reason why anyone would resign to such a state of affairs. With regards to facebook's community standards, their community is made up by their users. If enough ruckus is made by their community over certain rules, they stand to lose more by not changing their practice. And that leads me to the other flaw in the comparison. Facebook are not, like the thieves in Boris' example, criminals. My two cents, Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 9. desember 2013 09:08 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: fanning the flames On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Too exhibitionist for showing a picture of her daughter? That is called slut shaming (or victim blaming if you are sensitive), blaming the victim for acting outside your accepted norms. Dave, let me try to explain. Dave, consider this scenario. You drive in a neighborhood and in great hurry you leave your car windows open. Your car gets robbed. You invoke insurance, and so on. While engaged in damage control you are let known that this neighborhood is rather full of thieves. A week later you have to pass by the same route again. This time, rather knowingly and on purpose you leave your car doors opened one more time and your car gets promptly robbed. This time however, along with invoking the insurance, you also start a very loud publicity campaign. Now, consider this: 1. Although you were quite right both times (as far theft being out of the law, etc), you were not very smart to leave your car doors opened. The first time over you were being normal human - you were in a hurry and you were preoccupied with something important. 2. The second time you did it on purpose. Further, this time you were knowingly inviting the thief so that you can cry out loud. Again - you were right by the letter of the law, but you were very non-smart other than that. Ultimately, I should point out that in this case your behavior may indicate a deeper underlying problem than just being robbed. 3. Finally, if your original plan was a publicity campaign against thieves in general or in this very neighborhood, don't tell me that the damage done to your car is something you cannot possibly stand. In other words - don't be childish. Now, my understanding (from reading the blog post comments) that this is not the very first time this lady has problem with FB authorities. Ultimate bottom line here is Hebrew saying Be wise, don't be right. I hope I got my point across. Also let it be noted that this direction of the discussion has nothing to do with whatever was depicted in that/these photograph/s. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO redwood trunk
The only thing missing from that shot is a couple of ewoks! :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Larry Colen Dato: 9. desember 2013 04:17 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: PESO redwood trunk I went for a walk in the park across the street this afternoon. I think I like this one the best of the set, just for the lighting on the bark: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11282810134/in/set-72157638497397164 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: fanning the flames
Between your viewpoint from Israel and mine from the Frostpit I think both of us suspect that community rules are crafted by bet-hedging lawyers catering for the American judicial system. :-) My main point was that I failed to see the analogy between your post and the original topic in the way it came out. Sorry about that. ;-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 9. desember 2013 13:20 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: fanning the flames Jostein, I don't understand how it come to be that you inferred from my reasoning that common sense and law don't apply somewhere, say on FB? I would appreciate an explanation, even if off-list. Then, I did not mean to imply that FB were criminals. I meant to illustrate the point that this specific lady struck me as a very special kind of individual - one that is more preoccupied with righteousness than with anything else. I may be wrong, but at least I tried to clarify my view. I think that FB is too big a community to have it change their practices based on experience of a single individual. It is in fact a very interesting issue, because FB is not democratic by design. The rules are not produced by mutual discussion of FB members, but rather are given. But I sense this will lead us even further off the original topic. Cheers! On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: I've tried to stay out of this discussion, but alas... Boris' reasoning has two _big_ flaws. One is accepting that certain geographical (or virtual in the sense of facebook) areas are exempt from common sense and law. I can see no reason why anyone would resign to such a state of affairs. With regards to facebook's community standards, their community is made up by their users. If enough ruckus is made by their community over certain rules, they stand to lose more by not changing their practice. And that leads me to the other flaw in the comparison. Facebook are not, like the thieves in Boris' example, criminals. My two cents, Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 9. desember 2013 09:08 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: fanning the flames On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Too exhibitionist for showing a picture of her daughter? That is called slut shaming (or victim blaming if you are sensitive), blaming the victim for acting outside your accepted norms. Dave, let me try to explain. Dave, consider this scenario. You drive in a neighborhood and in great hurry you leave your car windows open. Your car gets robbed. You invoke insurance, and so on. While engaged in damage control you are let known that this neighborhood is rather full of thieves. A week later you have to pass by the same route again. This time, rather knowingly and on purpose you leave your car doors opened one more time and your car gets promptly robbed. This time however, along with invoking the insurance, you also start a very loud publicity campaign. Now, consider this: 1. Although you were quite right both times (as far theft being out of the law, etc), you were not very smart to leave your car doors opened. The first time over you were being normal human - you were in a hurry and you were preoccupied with something important. 2. The second time you did it on purpose. Further, this time you were knowingly inviting the thief so that you can cry out loud. Again - you were right by the letter of the law, but you were very non-smart other than that. Ultimately, I should point out that in this case your behavior may indicate a deeper underlying problem than just being robbed. 3. Finally, if your original plan was a publicity campaign against thieves in general or in this very neighborhood, don't tell me that the damage done to your car is something you cannot possibly stand. In other words - don't be childish. Now, my understanding (from reading the blog post comments) that this is not the very first time this lady has problem with FB authorities. Ultimate bottom line here is Hebrew saying Be wise, don't be right. I hope I got my point across. Also let it be noted that this direction of the discussion has nothing to do with whatever was depicted in that/these photograph/s. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO redwood trunk
hehehe! Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Larry Colen Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 8:08 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: SV: PESO redwood trunk On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 10:53:52AM +0100, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: The only thing missing from that shot is a couple of ewoks! :-) This is the one I call vacation on Endor: http://www.flickr.com/photos/99496143@N00/4409775400/in/photolist-7HFfAm Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Larry Colen Dato: 9. desember 2013 04:17 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: PESO redwood trunk I went for a walk in the park across the street this afternoon. I think I like this one the best of the set, just for the lighting on the bark: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11282810134/in/set-72157638497397164 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Southwest roadtrip
You think I can afford another trip shortly? Alas... :-( Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Larry Colen Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 11:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Southwest roadtrip On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 02:11:10PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: It looks like Candice and I will spend about a week kicking around the southwest (maybe CA and AZ deserts) between 12/27ish and 1/3. Suggestions for places to go take photos, preferably ones not already photographed to a faretheewell? It'd also help if they are also not someplace that Jostein will go to a few weeks later and make me look bad. :-) -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Big Sur
I'll think about it, Steve. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Steve Cottrell Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:58 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: PESO - Big Sur On 8/12/13, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: I feel that the collection of images I have gathered on this trip are not, when seen together, coherent enough to tell a good story beyond being a travelogue. Does coherency depend on a story? What's wrong with a decisive collection to view in one selection? Galleries have been doing it since before the Vikings went off in search of pillage and plunder ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Last Stop Lodi
Lodi was the last stop I made on this trip, so this is the last travelogue blog post. http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/last-stop-lodi.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: fanning the flames
I hope we're not going to take this into a nature vs. nurture debate. That subject has remained unresolved since the renessance and will stay that way for as long as the division exist between humanistic and natural sciences. Jostein knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: No I am not appealing to authority. Paul was. Paul made the assertion that we're hard wired in a certain way basing that claim on studies. The authority was studies. That's what he was appealing to. Hence: Appeal to Authority. The problem with it is that I can't refute it. I don't know to which studies he refers. I don't know anything about these studies: their methodologies, their premises, who might be funding them, who they studied, etc. So the statement studies say is meaningless and doesn't add to the argument. As for your assertion that I've appealed to authority, well, I haven't. At all. And I don't have to refute the hard wired theory. It's up to the person making the assertion to prove it. It's not up to me to disprove it. Otherwise anyone could say any outlandish thing they want, something completely without merit, and then say, Well can you prove it wrong? Then it must be true! All I said Is I don't buy it, and that was because it hadn't been proven. I really don't think I have the energy to address the rest of your post right now. It's late and I'm tired. Maybe tomorrow. As much as I'd like to visit you and your country you'll have to explain what any extended stay has to do with this discussion. Cheers, frank Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Frank, purely for the matter of argument, not in any disrespect to you or your reasoning, but didn't you just do the same (appeal to authority)? I mean - who says that we're not hard wired as Paul indicated? Are there studies to support that this specific part of our nature can be modified through proper nurture? Who said that this problem while having ethical aspects in it, does not stem from the way the human nature is, as you put it? You really would benefit from coming over here and spending here more than just a vacation, may be live here for some time. It may prove very interesting. Boris On 12/10/2013 6:50 AM, knarf wrote: I don't agonize but I am concerned. And my concern is that the blatant sexualization of women in the media is degrading to them. If you don't see it by now you never will. Btw what you're doing is called the appeal to authority and it's a logical fallacy. Who says that? Please cite authors and studies. If you're going to pull studies out of your hat I'll call you on it. Who says we're hard wired that way? And how do they know it? And just because we're hard wired (which I don't buy) how does that make it right? Finally, nature doesn't dictate anything. It just is. In any event this isn't a natural problem, it's a human problem. It has to do with how we humans treat each other. It's an ethical issue. But, as with so many discussions that we have Paul, we've reached a stalemate. I don't think either of us will change the mind of the other. :-) Cheers, frank Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Paul via phone On Dec 9, 2013, at 10:35 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I know I said I was done with this thread. Apparently I lied. ;-) But I had to jump in to completely disagree with your assertion wrt the underlying premise. To my mind the premise is that there is a huge disparity in the way that women and men are portrayed in the media including the arts. Women tend to be sexualized far more than men and often in denigrating and offensive ways. That includes but doesn't have to mean nudity. People can point to exceptions but that doesn't change the fact that women are sexualized far more often and in different ways than men. This doesn't mean that sex is dirty or wrong or that it doesn't make the world go 'round. A bit of balance would be nice, that's all... But those who study human sexuality contend that while men take considerable pleasure in female nudity, most women are not deeply aroused by the male body. Seems to be the way we're wired. Why agonize over it? Nature doesn't dictate balance in all things. Cheers, frank, back to spectating - for now Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I think the underlying premise -- that to portray a human as a sexual being is to inherently denigrate other aspects of their humanity -- is a false one. All of this calls to mind a recent discovery for me: a woman named Susan Oliver. I just happened to see her in an episode of the Andy Griffith Show that was on the TV at the bar where I worked and was struck by just how beautiful a woman she was, and as it turned out, a woman at the bar happened to know her name. So, I started doing a little reading up on her on the internet, and as it turned out, she was an absolutely fascinating person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Oliver Now, to be
Re: PESO - Big Sur
I have no plans for a book. I probably don't have the time and energy either, but as I said I'll think about it. With me, decision making is sometimes the slowest part of the process. But there'll be no penguins. Next time I'll bring a WTD prop. Jostein Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 09:58:51PM +, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 8/12/13, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: I feel that the collection of images I have gathered on this trip are not, when seen together, coherent enough to tell a good story beyond being a travelogue. Does coherency depend on a story? What's wrong with a decisive collection to view in one selection? Galleries have been doing it since before the Vikings went off in search of pillage and plunder ;-) It's the story of Jeurg the hippie penguin, who dosed a little to heavily, got lost and ended up in California, and all the cool sites he saw hitchiking around the American Southwest. With that premise, it doesn't matter how incoherent it is. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Stop Lodi
The incoming shot is a single exposure with K-5 and a 500mm lens, no flash. Not at my computer now, but IIRC the exposure time was 1/10s at ISO 1600. The light was pretty dim. I turned AF off and used LiveView with zoom function to prefocus on the birds on the ground. I took several exposures to increase likelihood of a sharp one, and while I was at it those other birds settled into the group. Jostein Jostein Alastair Robertson kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote: beautiful work! I like the incoming blurs - took a moment to spot them. Is there some fill flash in that one? I am looking at the double exposure effect of the two most prominent incoming birds What lens(es) did you use for these? Alastair On 10 December 2013 12:26, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: Lodi was the last stop I made on this trip, so this is the last travelogue blog post. http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/last-stop-lodi.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Fw: PESO - Point Lobos
Another famous place; I just had to see what it was all about. I knew about the sea lions but not much else, and had a truly enjoyable day just exploring. http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/point-lobos.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Big Sur
Thanks for all your comments on this set, folks. It seems that all three of them have been picked as someone's favourite; that's great to hear! I feel that the collection of images I have gathered on this trip are not, when seen together, coherent enough to tell a good story beyond being a travelogue. I'll let it brew for a while in case there's something I have missed. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Big Sur Some watery images this time: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/big-sur.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Big Sur
Whatever you're drinking, mate, save some for me... :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Steve Cottrell Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:51 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: PESO - Big Sur On 7/12/13, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: Some watery images this time: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/big-sur.html St. Jostein strikes again! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: GESO - Lighthouse Wave Splashes
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Larry Colen http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/wave-splashes-at-south-haven Nice photos, you must have a good camera. http://www.whattheduck.net/strip/95 :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: GESO - Lighthouse Wave Splashes
Those Great American Lakes must be the best place in the world for lighthouse images. I so envy you the shots you make of them, Mark. Good timing on the splash. And that old one with the ice just underlines my point. Most lighthouses serve areas with salt water that rarely freeze up like that. Way cool, in more ways than one. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Mark C Dato: 6. desember 2013 02:28 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: GESO - Lighthouse Wave Splashes Been more or less off list due to work for the last few weeks, but I took today off and finally got to use the K-3 again! Some waves on Lake Michigan: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/wave-splashes-at-south-haven The Ricoh K-3 continues to rock! MCC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - Little red berries
Looks like you are getting the hang of it just fine, Bruce! :-) Well isolated from the background and nicely rendered. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bruce Walker Dato: 6. desember 2013 02:49 Til: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Emne: PESO - Little red berries Noodling around getting the hang of the new camera in the local park ... http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/11229586023/ K-3, DA* 55/1.4 @ f:2.8, 1/250th, ISO 400; Lightroom. Comments happily received. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Big Sur
Some watery images this time: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/big-sur.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Some flyers
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/some-flyers.html Still along the Big Sur. The first was shot with the 645D and 120mm macro. To catch the other situations I had to use the K-5 and Sigma 500mm. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - First leg from Big Sur, Elephant seals
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SV: PESO - First leg from Big Sur, Elephant seals
Jack, Unfortunately my trip came to an end two weeks ago already. Along the coast I drove HWY 1 from San Simeon to Monterey. These were captured in San Simeon State Park. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Jack Davis Dato: 4. desember 2013 16:10 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: PESO - First leg from Big Sur, Elephant seals Jostein, I imagine you're somewhere near Heceta Lighthouse. It's north of Florence, OR, very near the Seal Caves. Heceta is the best positioned lighthouse I happen to have ever seen. Last year at about this same Dec date, I made the trip up there, from the Sacramento, CA area, to attempt a sunset shoot. Weather was grey and misty. After a couple days, we (wife and I) gave it up. Wish I had the gumption to head up there again today. I would guess, you can position yourself so that the sun sets just to the left of the light as you view it from a pull-off viewing area immediately south of small bay. Jack - Original Message - From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 1:32 AM Subject: PESO - First leg from Big Sur, Elephant seals http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/elephant-seals.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - First leg from Big Sur, Elephant seals
LOL... As long as we keep Gary Larson away that's okay... :-) -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bob W Dato: 4. desember 2013 20:22 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: PESO - First leg from Big Sur, Elephant seals On 4 Dec 2013, at 10:36, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/elephant-seals.html All excellent but 'The Taller Wins' is wonderful - and fun as well. They're just begging for James Thurber to write the captions. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lock Picker
Funny and well spotted! Jostein Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Seen during our rail journey across Australia in 2009: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2880peso.html http://tinyurl.com/o7be9f4 -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Cornice at Sunset
What Bruce wrote! Jostein Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: That, Rick, is _great_. This embodies the sentiment about the light being everything. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: There isn't a huge amount of old interesting architecture in downtown San Diego, but the setting sun helped me find this. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17616308size=lg (K-5, DA 50-200) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - Near the Train Station
I sense some influence from Dag Thrane as well. :-) Intriguing crop, Rick! Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Miserere Dato: 3. desember 2013 01:12 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: PESO - Near the Train Station Gianni Galassi would be proud of you, Rick! http://www.blurb.com/b/496590-square-the-exhibition-catalogue Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 2 December 2013 18:56, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: in San Diego: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17616306size=lg (K-5, DA 50-200) The antithesis of the chaos PUG theme. I'm craving order these days. Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Valley Of Fire
Thanks for your comments, Jack, Godfrey, Charles, Frank, Attila, Ken, Dan, Ann, and Don. I conclude that I've failed to bring any new way to see this landscape to you guys. Maybe next time, if I get around to going back. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Jack Davis Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Valley Of Fire Jostein, I responded to this post earlier with sort of an OK. Godfrey is saying it much better here and I wish to associate myself to his remarks. Jack - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:32 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Valley Of Fire On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: This place is more amazing than Zion, IMHO. http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/valley-of-fire.html The problem with Slot Canyon when you live around the SF Bay Area is the sheer number of outstanding photos you've seen from this location due to the many many many workshop participants who follow Bruce Barnbaum (http://www.barnbaum.com/) there. Not to say your photos are poor, Jostein, but it's like sunsets: having been bombarded with images of that area, my eyes are too tired and inhibited to see much there any more. :-\ G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Valley Of Fire
This place is more amazing than Zion, IMHO. http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/valley-of-fire.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack)
Well done, Bill! I'm curious to know if you move focus by hand or use some kind of device for it. I have been looking at several tools for the purpose, but haven't been able to justify the investment just yet. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Bill Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:05 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) Another focus stack image. This time shot with the DA100/2.8 macro. ISO 100, f/4. 17 x 2 second exposures. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/knife2.html This is a much loved little knife that I sometimes use in my workshop. enjoy bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack)
With a focus rail, you still have to move focus by hand. I was thinking about tools like this one: http://www.cognisys-inc.com/stackshot/stackshot.php Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Attila Boros Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 2:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Peso: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: Well done, Bill! I'm curious to know if you move focus by hand or use some kind of device for it. I have been looking at several tools for the purpose, but haven't been able to justify the investment just yet. Jostein http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/en/produkte/2_1_produktanzeige.asp?nr=5534 Didn't try focus stack with it (yet), just setting the magnification on the macro lens, then focusing by moving the camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack)
Ah, but that's argumentation to *avoid* the investment, John. :-) Jotein -Opprinnelig melding- From: John Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) $525 (plus tax, tags dealer prep fees) vs $49.95 for the manual rail from Adorama? I wonder what kind of lens I might find somewhere like KEH for the $475 difference? On 12/1/2013 8:18 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: With a focus rail, you still have to move focus by hand. I was thinking about tools like this one: http://www.cognisys-inc.com/stackshot/stackshot.php Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Attila Boros Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 2:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Peso: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: Well done, Bill! I'm curious to know if you move focus by hand or use some kind of device for it. I have been looking at several tools for the purpose, but haven't been able to justify the investment just yet. Jostein http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/en/produkte/2_1_produktanzeige.asp?nr=5534 Didn't try focus stack with it (yet), just setting the magnification on the macro lens, then focusing by moving the camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack)
I own that plate, and in my opinion is not particularly good. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Toine Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:49 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) Manfrotto has a nice plate for this if you want to try manual micro positioning: http://www.manfrotto.com/micro-positioning-sliding-plate Toine On 1 December 2013 14:18, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: With a focus rail, you still have to move focus by hand. I was thinking about tools like this one: http://www.cognisys-inc.com/stackshot/stackshot.php Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Attila Boros Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 2:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Peso: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: Well done, Bill! I'm curious to know if you move focus by hand or use some kind of device for it. I have been looking at several tools for the purpose, but haven't been able to justify the investment just yet. Jostein http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/en/produkte/2_1_produktanzeige.asp?nr=5534 Didn't try focus stack with it (yet), just setting the magnification on the macro lens, then focusing by moving the camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack)
That's a real bargain! I've had my eyes on one at my local pusher that is new in box. It's been there for a couple of decades at least, and has the dust layer to prove it, but no discount, alas. My ratio of successful attempts at focus stacking is below one in ten. Mostly because I fail to produce evenly spaced focus shifts between each shot. :-( Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: John Dato: 2. desember 2013 01:25 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) I've got a Pentax Macro Focus Rail III or some such I found in a discount bin at one of the local independent cameras stores that Pentax dumped back around the time Hoya bought them. Got it for something like $20 IIRC. It doesn't have any kind of motor but it works Ok. On 12/1/2013 10:03 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Ah, but that's argumentation to *avoid* the investment, John. :-) Jotein -Opprinnelig melding- From: John Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) $525 (plus tax, tags dealer prep fees) vs $49.95 for the manual rail from Adorama? I wonder what kind of lens I might find somewhere like KEH for the $475 difference? On 12/1/2013 8:18 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: With a focus rail, you still have to move focus by hand. I was thinking about tools like this one: http://www.cognisys-inc.com/stackshot/stackshot.php Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Attila Boros Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 2:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Peso: Japanese Knife (17 image focus stack) On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: Well done, Bill! I'm curious to know if you move focus by hand or use some kind of device for it. I have been looking at several tools for the purpose, but haven't been able to justify the investment just yet. Jostein http://www.kaiser-fototechnik.de/en/produkte/2_1_produktanzeige.asp?nr=5534 Didn't try focus stack with it (yet), just setting the magnification on the macro lens, then focusing by moving the camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Note to self: SDM doesn't work at -9°F
When it gets really cold, the first thing to stop working is my peripheral nervous system. And not the sensory part. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Walt Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 7:24 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Note to self: SDM doesn't work at -9°F You know what else doesn't work at -9°F? My central nervous system! -- Walt On 11/29/2013 6:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Up in the White mountains of New Hampshire doing a bit of hiking. Way up on the mountain today it was sunny but windy and *very* cold. I thought the SDM on my ancient and much abused 16-50/2.8 had given out and went through the day on manual focus. At the end of the day (upon return to reasonable temps) all was well again. Photos to follow soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Thanksgiving Day survivor
Its weirdnes certainly comes across in this shot, Stan! Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Stan Halpin Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 2:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Thanksgiving Day survivor This guy is a frequent visitor (aka nuisance). Quite handsome in his own weird way! http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h34718200#h34718200 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Fw: PESO - Virgin River Canyon, AZ
Observed on my way South from Zion. Mostly a transport leg, but I found this “little” canyon quite captivating. It’s a place I’d love to return to. http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/virgin-river-canyon-az.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dark, Snowy Commute
Certainly stands its ground, this one. Good photo. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: knarf Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 11:53 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Dark, Snowy Commute Taken and originally posted several years ago, since we're having rather wintry weather of late I thought I'd post it again: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2010/02/dark-snowy-commute.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Over the river 2013
Very nice photo. Didn't quite get the text tho'. You mean that game where they run around with an oblong ball and attribute it to the bodypart that's actually least in touch with it? Never got the hang of that stuff really... :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Don Guthrie Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:18 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Over the river 2013 Do children even sing that little ditty anymore? Happy Thanksgiving and Good Day to the rest of the world. This is what Iowa looks like today (for Jack and other warm weather sufferers). Now off to roast duck and football U.S. style. Your choice of links. https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos?pid=5950998059722779170oid=100687245332697763729 http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Rural-Iowa/Winter-Beauty/i-MbZQ7R8 /0/XL/River%20Ice-XL.jpg http://500px.com/photo/53361864 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/11089975306/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Only in Canada
hmm... Well-done hamburger meat? Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: knarf Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 4:23 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Only in Canada They're probably made in China these days, but still, can you buy these at the corner store where you live? http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/11/only-in-canada.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - SR9, Utah
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/utah-sr-9.html Still from Zion, had 36 rather productive hours there. A four minutes’ exposure, just after sunset. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - A nod to mr. Rowell
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/a-nod-to-mr-rowell.html As a warning to the sensitive, this contains both nude rocks and a digitally compressed tonemap. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - First Night in Zion
Thanks for commenting; Attila, Boris and Godfrey. Apologies to all for the non-arousing nudity. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne Dato: 25. november 2013 12:39 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: PESO - First Night in Zion http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/first-night-in-zion.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - First Night in Zion
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/first-night-in-zion.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - From Dante's viewpoint
Thanks for commenting; Bruce W., Christine, Attila, Rick, Don (and wife), Bob W., Ann and Paul. I'm very glad I bothered to drive up to Dante's Viewpoint. If any of you go to Death Valley in the future, make sure you get up there too. It's a perfect spot for watching the sunset, if nothing else; but the's a lot of great motifs up there too. I met a couple of guys from Las Vegas who had come up specifically to shoot the sunset from there. Nice blokes. The leaving shot features the lights from their car. I explained what I had in mind, and they promised to drive slowly and evenly to make the light trail steady. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne Dato: 24. november 2013 16:14 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: PESO - From Dante's viewpoint http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/at-dantes-viewpoint.html Four images, last batch from Death Valley. Fourth image specially for Jack. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: PESO - First Night in Zion
Fra: Attila Boros I really like Kolob Canyons, good mistake:) Moonlight on Hidden Canyon is also very nice. The tree in the lower right seems to be brighter than the rest, maybe from car lights? Umm... Actually that was caused by accidentally turning my headlamp on for a few seconds during exposure. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badwater Basin
Thanks for your comments Paul, Ann, Jack, Attila, and Ken! Re: the Devil's Golf Course, darn, I was so proud of that one myself... grin. I do have other shots from the place, but I felt that this one conveyed the feeling of the place better. Time to go back and check those other shots! Thanks for commenting on what doesn't work for you too! Much appreciated! Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/badwater-basin.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: alternate stacking approach
Very nice result, Stan. I also really like the way you've arranged the elements in this one. Especially the way the open space in the lower right corner works. Very intriguing. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Stan Halpin Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: alternate stacking approach I went back to the website and changed some settings; the images should expand a bit larger on your screen, and I also turned on the down-load option. If anybody wants the original 10 DNG files to play with on their own, I can put the files in Dropbox... stan On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:03 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks Bruce Bill. I appreciate the comments! stan On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Bill wrote: On 21/11/2013 8:20 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: ... I uploaded 4 images: First, a 6016x4000 image downsized to 2400xwhatever. This is the full stack of 10 images. Full Stack: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e387e914 ... Note that once you've followed the first link, click on the image for a larger view. From there, a right-arrows takes you to the next, left-arow brings you back etc. so you can do comparisons more easily. Also note that I applied the same adjustments to the single image that I had previously arrived at for the stacked image. stan Apparently I have some work to do. That's fabulous. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Minerals exposed
Thanks for commenting, Steve, Jack, Attila, Paul, Ann, Bruce, Godfrey, Bob W, Brian, Frank and Dan. I asked a ranger what kind of minerals we were looking at, and told him I suspected the tuquoise to contain a lot of copper. He could not confirm but told me the purple stuff was manganese. According to Wikipedia, the green stuff is mica, but that's a family of minerals that can have a lot of different metallic contaminants. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 3:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Minerals exposed http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/minerals-exposed.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - From Dante's viewpoint
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/at-dantes-viewpoint.html Four images, last batch from Death Valley. Fourth image specially for Jack. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
