RE: First Ever GESOs
I'm not sure about the creamy smooth appearance. I didn't use any portrait tools. The two photos that used HDR were these two http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/i-Dqvkv86/2/ L/_PNK7498_HDR-L.jpg http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/i-4XTr3sh/2/ L/_PNK7502_HDR-L.jpg but I don't think those are the ones you are referring to. For the others, I only used Lightroom v5 and nothing too extravagant on settings, especially in the area of things I would expect to make something look creamy. If this was one that you are referring to http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/i-NgsPScH/2/ L/_PNK7545-L.jpg I used Clarity +18 Sharpening 114 Luminance Smoothing 42 Pretty much all the other adjustments were exposure related. -- Kevin -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:28 PM To: PDML Subject: Re: First Ever GESOs Kevin, I must ask, how do you achieve the creamy smooth appearance in post? I know I'm making an assumption, but it reminds me of a portrait program effect. Beautifully done finish to your work, in any case. Thanks, Jack - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:39:32 AM Subject: First Ever GESOs I've been a part time contributor, part time lurker, occasional PUG submitter, most time inactive member of this list for probably 15 years or so. I used to follow the list daily and contribute some, but over time the list changed with a higher percentage of the posts about PESOs and GESOs and my life changed with kids, etc. so I decided I couldn't follow regularly. However this is the #1 best source of information for my Pentax equipment so I periodically check the archives or pop in for a question. When I do, I usually ask my question, get my answer and then turn digests back off and go back to checkimg the archives periodically. However, apparently now that I'm again and can't turn the digests back off until Nov. 1, I decided to join the fun. Several weeks back I was able to spend a few days on a trip being intentional with my photography without making my family stand around and wait for me to do my thing. I like landscapes and nature photography. Every once-in-a-while I wind up with an OK picture on my card but this trip was about being intentional, so I'd like to offer a couple of galleries of my selects for your comment. I was shooting with a K-5 and 3 lenses. the 18-135 WR, an FA* 80-200/2.8 and an A* 300/2.8. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Rocky-Mountain-National-Park/ http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/ I used HDR on a couple to get more shadow details Thanks. -- Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: First Ever GESOs
That's probably the problem. It makes me feel a little claustrophobic. I had gone to that location for a different picture for which the light never materialized so I started playing with my ND filter and the stream. I think that given the effort to get the right amount of blur in the water and the best light on the mountain top and a good composition, I ended up wanting this to be a better picture than it really is. Thanks for the feedback. -- Kevin -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: First Ever GESOs Kevin - very nice! I particularly like the first two and the BW of the Dunes set, the elk in the RMP set. The 2nd is nice enough but maybe too much going on. Stan Sent from my iPad On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Kevin, I must ask, how do you achieve the creamy smooth appearance in post? I know I'm making an assumption, but it reminds me of a portrait program effect. Beautifully done finish to your work, in any case. Thanks, Jack - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:39:32 AM Subject: First Ever GESOs I've been a part time contributor, part time lurker, occasional PUG submitter, most time inactive member of this list for probably 15 years or so. I used to follow the list daily and contribute some, but over time the list changed with a higher percentage of the posts about PESOs and GESOs and my life changed with kids, etc. so I decided I couldn't follow regularly. However this is the #1 best source of information for my Pentax equipment so I periodically check the archives or pop in for a question. When I do, I usually ask my question, get my answer and then turn digests back off and go back to checkimg the archives periodically. However, apparently now that I'm again and can't turn the digests back off until Nov. 1, I decided to join the fun. Several weeks back I was able to spend a few days on a trip being intentional with my photography without making my family stand around and wait for me to do my thing. I like landscapes and nature photography. Every once-in-a-while I wind up with an OK picture on my card but this trip was about being intentional, so I'd like to offer a couple of galleries of my selects for your comment. I was shooting with a K-5 and 3 lenses. the 18-135 WR, an FA* 80-200/2.8 and an A* 300/2.8. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Rocky-Mountain-National -Park/ http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/ I used HDR on a couple to get more shadow details Thanks. -- Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: First Ever GESOs
Sorry. I think the list inserted a line break in the links where it split the line. I verified that the lines are not split in the e-mail I sent to the list so I don't know what to do. I had to copy the whole thing and paste it into a browser. Thanks for pointing out the halo. It's hard for me to see. Thanks for commenting. -- Kevin -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 3:47 PM To: PDML Subject: Re: First Ever GESOs Kevin, all three of these three links you provided, show; Page Not Found. That's OK, I accept your remarks without question. I will mention the light halo bordering the left shoulder of the left elk. We've all gotten many of those things. This being an especially nice image, made me want to comment. Maybe due to color tone adjustment.(?) Jack - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:24:45 PM Subject: RE: First Ever GESOs I'm not sure about the creamy smooth appearance. I didn't use any portrait tools. The two photos that used HDR were these two http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/i-Dqvkv86/2/ L/_PNK7498_HDR-L.jpg http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/i-4XTr3sh/2/ L/_PNK7502_HDR-L.jpg but I don't think those are the ones you are referring to. For the others, I only used Lightroom v5 and nothing too extravagant on settings, especially in the area of things I would expect to make something look creamy. If this was one that you are referring to http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/i-NgsPScH/2/ L/_PNK7545-L.jpg I used Clarity +18 Sharpening 114 Luminance Smoothing 42 Pretty much all the other adjustments were exposure related. -- Kevin -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:28 PM To: PDML Subject: Re: First Ever GESOs Kevin, I must ask, how do you achieve the creamy smooth appearance in post? I know I'm making an assumption, but it reminds me of a portrait program effect. Beautifully done finish to your work, in any case. Thanks, Jack - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:39:32 AM Subject: First Ever GESOs I've been a part time contributor, part time lurker, occasional PUG submitter, most time inactive member of this list for probably 15 years or so. I used to follow the list daily and contribute some, but over time the list changed with a higher percentage of the posts about PESOs and GESOs and my life changed with kids, etc. so I decided I couldn't follow regularly. However this is the #1 best source of information for my Pentax equipment so I periodically check the archives or pop in for a question. When I do, I usually ask my question, get my answer and then turn digests back off and go back to checkimg the archives periodically. However, apparently now that I'm again and can't turn the digests back off until Nov. 1, I decided to join the fun. Several weeks back I was able to spend a few days on a trip being intentional with my photography without making my family stand around and wait for me to do my thing. I like landscapes and nature photography. Every once-in-a-while I wind up with an OK picture on my card but this trip was about being intentional, so I'd like to offer a couple of galleries of my selects for your comment. I was shooting with a K-5 and 3 lenses. the 18-135 WR, an FA* 80-200/2.8 and an A* 300/2.8. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Rocky-Mountain-National-Park/ http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/ I used HDR on a couple to get more shadow details Thanks. -- Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
First Ever GESOs
I've been a part time contributor, part time lurker, occasional PUG submitter, most time inactive member of this list for probably 15 years or so. I used to follow the list daily and contribute some, but over time the list changed with a higher percentage of the posts about PESOs and GESOs and my life changed with kids, etc. so I decided I couldn't follow regularly. However this is the #1 best source of information for my Pentax equipment so I periodically check the archives or pop in for a question. When I do, I usually ask my question, get my answer and then turn digests back off and go back to checkimg the archives periodically. However, apparently now that I'm again and can't turn the digests back off until Nov. 1, I decided to join the fun. Several weeks back I was able to spend a few days on a trip being intentional with my photography without making my family stand around and wait for me to do my thing. I like landscapes and nature photography. Every once-in-a-while I wind up with an OK picture on my card but this trip was about being intentional, so I'd like to offer a couple of galleries of my selects for your comment. I was shooting with a K-5 and 3 lenses. the 18-135 WR, an FA* 80-200/2.8 and an A* 300/2.8. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Rocky-Mountain-National-Park/ http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/Travel/Colorado/Great-Sand-Dunes/ I used HDR on a couple to get more shadow details Thanks. -- Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Digest Settings
Can we change our digest settings via e-mail to the list server? What are the commands? Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digest Settings
Yea. That's why I'm asking for an alternate method. Kevin Thornsberry On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I think you can go to http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net and change the settings there, but you may have to wait until Nov 1, as we have exceeded our bandwidth limitation for the month on pdml.net. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Kevin Thornsberry kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com wrote: Can we change our digest settings via e-mail to the list server? What are the commands? Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Digest Settings
Thanks Richard. I think that is exactly what I need. -- Kevin -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Richard Dell Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:26 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digest Settings And realizing it might be useful to discuss the actions in hunting this down. I went to the Wayback Machine http://web.archive.org ... pulled up http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net as mentioned in a preceding post, to be sure of the right addresses and such. Then did a Google search for Mailman software help ... the link I looked at that was most useful: http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node10.html as it zeroed in on the email interface. On 10/27/2014 11:19 PM, Richard Dell wrote: I just checked this out send an email message containing two line help end to pdml-requ...@pdml.net FROM the email address you are registered at pdml with (I tried from my home account and got nothing back) You may want to also add the set help command, after perusing what I got back. On 10/27/2014 7:56 PM, Kevin Thornsberry wrote: Can we change our digest settings via e-mail to the list server? What are the commands? Kevin -- Richard Dell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair
Serendipity Rocks!!! This is funny. I already have an extra 7.2v battery. For some reason, I thought the BG-4 needed 2 x 7.2v batteries so I always used it with AAs. I got the BG-4 several years ago to use with my K-7. At that time I used it with AAs and didn't have a problem. A few yrs later, I bought a K-5 with intent of selling the K-7 but never could bring myself to part with it even though I never use it. I've been charging both batteries and carrying one in my pocket while still using AAs in the grip. Why the grip stopped working so suddenly with AAs I don't understand but I just tested it and it seems to work just fine with the extra 7.2v Li-ion in the grip. Fortunately, I had kept the box for the grip and the 7.2v carrier was still in the plastic. Also, when I pulled out the 7.2 carrier I was pleasantly reminded that it has a place for an extra sd card. If I hadn't read all the bad reviews of Precision Camera, the K-5 and grip would already be en route to their repair facility. Thanks. -- Kevin -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair My advice - don't mix-and-match AAs with the regular in-camera battery. If you're going to use AAs in the grip, then take the other battery out of the camera. If you want to be able to switch between the camera and grip battery, then get another 7.2V lithium battery to use in the grip. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:50:44PM -0500, Kevin Thornsberry wrote: (Repost in plain text. Sorry if this generates a duplicate) I?m having problems with my K-5/BG-4 combo.? Even with a fully charged battery in the camera and brand new AAs in the grip, the camera reports near or full depletion, however it appears to remain usable if I select ?Body First.??? I reports depleted and dies rapidly if I set the camera to ?Grip First.? I have tested the grip on my K-7 with no problems so I assume it is the camera. The problem started suddenly on a recent trip where I had used the camera/grip combo for several days with no issues. Sadly Eric Hendrickson doesn?t do digital bodies and CRIS no longer services Pentax.? Having read recent reports of extended repair delays and mixed results at Precision Camera, I am hesitant to go that route as long as my camera is usable. Any advice on my K-5/BG-4 issues, other repair options or additional experience with Precision Camera would be greatly appreciated. Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair
(Repost in plain text. Sorry if this generates a duplicate) Im having problems with my K-5/BG-4 combo. Even with a fully charged battery in the camera and brand new AAs in the grip, the camera reports near or full depletion, however it appears to remain usable if I select Body First. I reports depleted and dies rapidly if I set the camera to Grip First. I have tested the grip on my K-7 with no problems so I assume it is the camera. The problem started suddenly on a recent trip where I had used the camera/grip combo for several days with no issues. Sadly Eric Hendrickson doesnt do digital bodies and CRIS no longer services Pentax. Having read recent reports of extended repair delays and mixed results at Precision Camera, I am hesitant to go that route as long as my camera is usable. Any advice on my K-5/BG-4 issues, other repair options or additional experience with Precision Camera would be greatly appreciated. Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need Repair Advice for my F 100/2.8 Macro
Another name I received was Eric Hendrickson. Any experience with him? Kevin Thornsberry On Sep 15, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: v On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@me.com wrote: Send it to CRIS. You'll find them at criscam.com. They're the authorized Pentax service center in the U.S., and they do good work at a reasonable price. Paul On Sep 15, 2013, at 12:34 AM, Kevin Thornsberry kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com wrote: I recently dropped my F100/2.8 Macro. I really liked this lens because it's fast, sharp and has a focal length that fits my needs. Also, it is much easier to carry and hold than my FA* 80-200/2.8 which can provide the same 2.8 aperture at 100 mm. The lens only fell about 1-1/2 feet but fell on asphalt and hit on the corner of the filter ring while mounted on my K-5. The lens is totally jammed. The focus ring won’t turn at all and filter ring is slight bent. My questions are: 1) Where do I send it? Is the Pentax shop in CO my only/best option. 2) What is your experience with getting lens repairs? Can they fix it? Will the cost be worthwhile. I really don’t want to give up this lens but I also doubt I could replace it. Thanks for any help. -- Kevin Thornsberry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Need Repair Advice for my F 100/2.8 Macro
I recently dropped my F100/2.8 Macro. I really liked this lens because it's fast, sharp and has a focal length that fits my needs. Also, it is much easier to carry and hold than my FA* 80-200/2.8 which can provide the same 2.8 aperture at 100 mm. The lens only fell about 1-1/2 feet but fell on asphalt and hit on the corner of the filter ring while mounted on my K-5. The lens is totally jammed. The focus ring wont turn at all and filter ring is slight bent. My questions are: 1) Where do I send it? Is the Pentax shop in CO my only/best option. 2) What is your experience with getting lens repairs? Can they fix it? Will the cost be worthwhile. I really dont want to give up this lens but I also doubt I could replace it. Thanks for any help. -- Kevin Thornsberry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-30 Get a Nod at Expedition Portal
Apparently Matthew Scott wasn't done nodding at the K-30. A fuller article has now appeared here: http://www.expeditionportal.com/component/content/article/109-electronics/1749-the-weather-sealed-pentax-k-30-perfect-for-adventure-travel.html with a wink to the venerable Pentax Spotmatic. Kevin -Original Message- From: Kevin Thornsberry kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 3:35 pm Subject: Pentax K-30 Get a Nod at Expedition Portal Matthew Scott at Expedition Portal, a forum for those interested in vehicle dependent driving trips across continents or around the world recently posted a brief article about the weather sealed Pentax K-30. I've also noticed he has mentioned the camera in some of his other articles. Thought I would share with the group.http://www.expeditionportal.com/expedition-gear/accessories/1577-st uff-and-things-pentax-k-30-weatherproof-digital-slr.htmlKevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My First PESO - 30 years late
To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO. But today, I was testing a new scanner and pulled out an old notebook of slide sleeves from pictures I took in Brasil almost 30 years ago and came across this picture of Rio de Janeiro. It's not a great picture and I just happened to be at this location at this time so I can't even claim much intent, but it warmed my heart for a few reasons: 1) For some reason, I didn't originally care enough for the picture to remember taking it. The slide was a little darker than this which is probably the reason. Now I get to rediscover it. 2) It revived a memory. 3) I took it with my first real camera, my Pentax K-1000. Since then I've owned a P-3N, ZX-5N, *ist-D, K-7 and a K-5. I still love that K-1000 most of all even though the K-5 is a much more practical tool for my needs and entertainment now. I still love to hear the shutter of the K-1000. It has such a satisfying mechanical combination of a click and a clunk. The K-1000 now sits, retired, on a shelf over my desk, in a collection of things that are special to me. I bought the camera with a bag, flash and a 50mm/1.8 lens in 1982 from a guy entering journalism school which required everyone to have a specific model of camera. 4) I was too poor for a tripod so I know I took the picture handheld. So, for those of you who still hold that emotional attachment to your K-1000, or LX or ME-Super I'd like to share this oldie from my K-1000. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/photos/i-6FCN7z5/1/X2/i-6FCN7z5-X2.jpg Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
October PUG Favorites
My favorites: Portacolonia - Jorge An Old door - Eric Blinded - Matthew Leeds Castle doorway - Mark Blue on White - Jan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax K-30 Get a Nod at Expedition Portal
Matthew Scott at Expedition Portal, a forum for those interested in vehicle dependent driving trips across continents or around the world recently posted a brief article about the weather sealed Pentax K-30. I've also noticed he has mentioned the camera in some of his other articles. Thought I would share with the group. http://www.expeditionportal.com/expedition-gear/accessories/1577-stuff-and-things-pentax-k-30-weatherproof-digital-slr.html Kevin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: A couple of A 400/5.6 birdies
Since getting my K-5, my 540 hasn't been out of the camera bag. The higher iso performance generally has me covered. Still, I'm intrigued about the Xtender you used for fill flash in wildlife photograghy. Is this the Better Beamer Xtender and if so are you using the FX-5 which is advertised for the 500FTZ? -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: A couple of A 400/5.6 birdies Grace and I went to the Johnson nature center today. I shot a few birds while she fed apples to the deer. Cold, but fun. I used the A 400/5.6 with the 540 flash and Xtender. The 400 always leaves a bit of fringing in the background branches. Could clean it up in PS, but I didn't bother this time. Maybe later. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14780264size=lg (a little pecker) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14780263size=lg (a chickadee I lielieve. This one's a hair soft, but I like the composition.) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14780352size=lg (Don't know what this guy might be. And I haven't looked in my book.) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14780353size=lg (Another one unknown to me. Some kind of sparrow or just an itty-bitty chickadee?) Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA 24-90mm f/3.5-4.5
OK. Less than 24 hours after placing my order I have the lens in hand (fully enabled, I guess you'd say). Precision Camera was pleasant to deal with and seemed to really try to fix a slight boo-boo they made on shipping method. I'll have to stop in next time I'm in Austin. Not too many stores carry anything but basic Pentax lenses. The lens seems nice. It focuses fairly fast in daylight at least, is light, good contrast and the zoom range is right for a walking lens. I'm happy. Thanks again for everyone's input. Kevin - Original Message - From: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: FA 24-90mm f/3.5-4.5 Thanks Marco. I wish I had seen your post before placing my order with Precision Camera as referenced in Fernando's post. According to UPS there is a package on the way so hopefully I'll be a satisfied. In case there is a problem with Precision Camera, I'll keep your offer as a backup plan. Thanks to everyone who posted on this question. I knew the PDML would help me out. - Original Message - From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:01 PM Subject: FA 24-90mm f/3.5-4.5 Hi Kevin, I have a FA 24-90mm f/3.5-4.5 that I've only used twice and is in essentially mint condition apart from a very small abrasion on the lens hood. Complete with all original packaging. $325 including shipping in the USA if you're interested. - Marco On 3/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 28-200 quite working several months ago (Finally!). I never liked that lens anyway. So now I needed a new walking lens. I began saving my pennies for a FA 24-90mm f/3.5-4.5 only to find out now that they've been discontinued. I can't find one anywhere. Can anyone direct me to some place that still has a FA 24-90mm f/3.5-4.5 or recommend a good alternative. Thanks. Kevin Thornsberry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: photo printing rant
Have you considered one of the online services like EZ Prints? -Original Message- From: wendy beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 3:03 PM To: pentax-discuss Subject: photo printing rant Photo finishing here is just getting worse! I had just prepared an 8x10 for an agility friend. It was a photo I had taken in September of Jake, a Belgian Tervuren. Only a month later, the dog died. It was important to me that I made the best print I could. I have been having problems recently with my Epson 2000P so decided to try a few local photo printing places. Up until the end of last year I had been using an independent lab downtown with good results. They have since been taken over by a local chain and the last lot of prints I took there all had some sort of staining on the edge of the paper. I have tried Blacks but they alway make prints too contrasty and too saturated. Which brings me to Photolab in Loblaws' stores. My daughter works there part time so I gave her a CD to take in and print off for me to see what sort of a job they did. She called me from work to tell me they'd run out of paper to print 8x10s and hadn't had any in since last week! Then she asked if she should take the file over to Walmart in her break. I said OK, try it out, if it's not much good then I haven't wasted too much money. She rang back again in a strop Walmart are being stupid she said. (don't you just love teenagers :-) ). Apparently they wanted her to use the kiosk to print her own out. She was not impressed and informed me that they had one of those kiosks in the Loblaws store where she worked and the paper was crap and so were the prints. I have to agree with her assessment of these kodak photokiosks. I did the same exercise just over a year ago with three other one-hour-photo places close to where I live or worked (the best had turned out to be a Photolab in Loblaws over the river in Quebec) and the photo kiosk was one of the things I tried out. I don't consider myself picky but this printing is driving me insane! Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
RE: WOW - Old Family Photo
Sorry. Here it is: http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/photos/4313813-M.jpg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 11:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Kevin Thornsberry Subject: RE: WOW - Old Family Photo Hi Kevin Thanks for your effort, unfortunately there is no link posted. Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/17/2004 5:49:17 PM Subject: RE: WOW - Old Family Photo Here's my 10 minutes worth. I did a little bit of fiddling but it could be summarized as 1) Levels 2) Contrast 3) Cloning 4) Sharpening -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WOW - Old Family Photo I'm in the process of restoring this one, and thought it might be interesting to see how other might go about this project. So, if you're interested in playing around with my aunt http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/dad_and_sis.jpg Shel Belinkoff
RE: WOW - Old Family Photo
Here's my 10 minutes worth. I did a little bit of fiddling but it could be summarized as 1) Levels 2) Contrast 3) Cloning 4) Sharpening -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WOW - Old Family Photo I'm in the process of restoring this one, and thought it might be interesting to see how other might go about this project. So, if you're interested in playing around with my aunt http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/dad_and_sis.jpg Shel Belinkoff
RE: Petshop frog
Oustanding! With a pose like that I hope you paid him a modelling fee. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leon Altoff Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Petshop frog I've been meaning to post a PAW for a while now. I've done 3 but never actually written a message to the list to tell anyone about it. My current PAW is of a frog I met in the pet shop today as we were buying food for my wife's pet snake. Links to previous PAWS are on the page. http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/feature.htm Comments on the PAWs or the website in general will be graciously accepted. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
RE: where is the crossing line ?
For some interesting discussion on this point see http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/cloning-the-can.shtml. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Maurer Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 12:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: where is the crossing line ? Hi Cotty that's an interesting point for me: Where is the crossing line for manipulating photos? And has there to be one? Times where a photo was a proof are long gone. I feel already like cheating a bit if I change anything on a photo, even cropping. I don't know why actually. I will answer more on your comments later Markus Cotty wrote: The same effect could have been produced with a graduated filter. Instead of using a filter, I adjusted the picture digitally with a very simple tool in Photoshop. Also, I cropped it and introduced an increase in saturation. I would not, however, move the position of any cloud. To me, that's crossing the line and beyond what I consider acceptable in digital manipulation. For instance, there is a whispy cloud on the edge of frame at left which could easily be cloned out. Not for me though.
RE: Grin and bear it. lol
Here's another polar bear picture that Claire might enjoy. I took it at the St. Louis zoo. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64100/1/2234465 He's a very handsome animal and almost seemed to be posing for the people taking pictures. He's also huge even though there's nothing in the picture to suggest scale. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Grin and bear it. lol My youngest, Claire (she of one-eyed apple picking fame) loves polar bears - has dozens of stuffies and posters and books about 'em. I'll send this link to her - she'll love it! frank
RE: *ist-D and AF360fgz (was RE: Fairygirl's first ever PAW...)
Usually I use 200. I can try at 400. What a bummer to be reduced to a single ISO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanya Mayer Photography Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist-D and AF360fgz (was RE: Fairygirl's first ever PAW...) Kevin, I have no idea why you are unable to use your AF360fgz in manual mode. Does it work in the other modes? ie SB, A, etc? As for the exposure, both myself and many other listers have found that the TTL accuracy is only true when shooting in ISO 400, and even then, it can be off somewhat. What ISO setting are you using? tan.
RE: *ist-D and AF360fgz (was RE: Fairygirl's first ever PAW...)
Even in manual mode mine forces P-TTL or SB mode. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michel Carrère-Gée Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist-D and AF360fgz (was RE: Fairygirl's first ever PAW...) Kevin Thornsberry a écrit : Tanja wrote Shot with *istD (of course!), FAJ 18-35mm @ 35mm, AF360fgz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/32), AV @ f5.6. I have the darndest time with this. I can only put my AF360fgz in manual mode or A mode if my *ist-D is turned off or if I wait long enough after pressing (or half-pressing) the shutter release so the meter shuts off. Is this normal? Yes, the 360FGZ force P-TTL setting, you must use manual mode too use TTL or Auto flash
RE: NEW_PUG - questions
I wouln't want the ads and links either. I don't think Smugmug has either. Available backgrounds are black or white. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mustarde Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NEW_PUG - questions On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:45:03 -0500, you wrote: Would there be any interest in using one of the photo sharing sites? Amongst all of us we have probably used all of them. If one is acceptable, one of us should know. I use Smugmug. I believe their lowest level of account allow unlimited storage and 2 gig/month bandwith for $29.99 US. For the exposure to a few hundred internet savvy photographers one of these sites might even cut a deal for us. I personally would prefer keeping pug free of ads and outside party interests. All of the photo sharing sites I've seen are quite cluttered with ads and extraneous links, and use backgrounds that distract from the photos. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
RE: PAW - Week of 4/12
I like it. I've never noticed frost outlining a leaf like that. I think the picture has a good balance of elements as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Waller Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW - Week of 4/12 Taken last fall, on a very frosty morning, in the U P of Michigan. Comments - likes/dislikes - what would you have done differently http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Thanks in advance for looking /commenting. Kenneth Waller
*ist-D and AF360fgz (was RE: Fairygirl's first ever PAW...)
Tanja wrote Shot with *istD (of course!), FAJ 18-35mm @ 35mm, AF360fgz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/32), AV @ f5.6. I have the darndest time with this. I can only put my AF360fgz in manual mode or A mode if my *ist-D is turned off or if I wait long enough after pressing (or half-pressing) the shutter release so the meter shuts off. Is this normal? Kevin
RE: ramblings...
I have heard that toilets swirl in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere. Everything else seems to be the same. It sounds like something my wife might have written. . . . except for the unhelpful hubby part. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanya Mayer Photography Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ramblings... WARNING- LONG POST! Omg, I have had a bg week! But firstly, I would like to say that all of the images posted this week have been nothing short of exceptional. I have been able to view most and enjoy them but unfortunately I've just been way too busy to sit and comment. I do love to view them though and really appreciate being able to study them. Last week ended with me selling alot of my film gear on Ebay. I no longer own any PZ-20s, and in fact the only film body that I have is the MZ-6 (ZX-L), what a sad, sad day that was! So, my week started on Saturday with a Wedding that was 2 hours drive away. Bg day, and I didn't get home until 2am in the morning. Sang very loudly all the way home whilst driving to stop me from falling asleep! Sunday - portrait session with a family with EIGHT kids! *eek* Boy did I earn my money that day! Monday - kids to school, amidst the usual tantrum throwing and the I don't want to wear those shoes!, I don't want that on my lunch!, and of course the obligatory I want to sit in the front seat cause he sat there yesterday!. Go to the school and do reading with the Grade 1s for two hours! Go over to the preschoolers where we make Easter Bonnets for another two hours. Come home and try to squeeze in an hour of editing of the wedding pics from Saturday, and then back to school to pick up two very tired and grumpy little boys. Of course didn't get any work done that night cause I was forced to sit in front of the tv and watch CSI! lol. Tuesday - kids to school, more tantrums, as usual. Second day of Easter Bonnets - this time with my son in Grade 1. Groceries, housework, and still no work done today... Wednesday - HUGE day. Jaimyn (my eldest son) turned six! Amazingly, we got to school sans tantrums (probably cause Jaimyn was told that he had to wait until the afternoon for his birthday gifts cause his dad wanted to give the main one to him after work, so Jaimyn wasn't game enough to put a foot wrong for fear of missing out on his pressies! lol). Spent the morning at the school watching the Easter Bonnet Parade, and a poor Grade 7 student dressed as Easter Bunny trying in vain to convince the Preschoolers and the Grade 1s that she was in fact the real deal. Of course, she kind of got found out when some cheeky little brat pulled her cotton ball tail off! lol. Went home, rushed to paint Jaimyn's birthday present and set it up in his bedroom, baked a birthday cake, and headed back to the school, for an afternoon of Happy Birthday To You and serving cake to 24 5 year olds (his class at School), all of whom wanted the bit with the icing of course! Head home to present Jaimyn with his birthday presents - a scooter that my hubby has slaved over for the past 4 weeks - he has motorized it by attaching the motor from our old whipper snipper (I think you americans call them hedge trimmers?) on the back of it. It goes like a rocket! lol. I built him a desk, which he has been begging for and on which the paint was still wet when he arrived home from school! lol. Madly make and eat our dinner and then head BACK to school for our very first school disco. On the way, Tanja receives her first ever speeding ticket (I was going 82kms in a 60km zone, VERY naughty!). So, this had to have been the most expensive school disco ever for me, cause a $250 fine and 4 points off my licence, was a great thing to receive when I am madly trying to save $$$ for GFM! Home at 10pm, and we all collapse in an exhausted heap! lol. Thursday - another HUGE day! Spent the entire day blowing up balloons, making a Bob The Builder birthday cake, making a pinata and decorating our dining room in preparation for the 30 5-6 year olds that we had invited over to celebrate Jaimyn's birthday party! Thankfully for me, only about 16 turned up due to many having left for their Easter Holidays already, and boy was I glad, cause 16 was handful enough! Pinata big success. Bob the Builder cake, big success. Motorized scooter, HUGE success (Jaimyn will be toast of the school when they go back after the holidays!). 5 year olds all safely home - Tanja left to restore some resemblence of order to my house that now resembles a bomb site that has been decorated with streamers and balloons! So, I clean up and do dishes, bath kids, cook dinner, when I realise that my hubby is missing. I find him ASLEEP and his explanation is that he has had a big day. Har! He won't know what's hit him when I am in the US for two full weeks! lol. Too exhausted to work, knowing that I'd end
OT: Something You Don't See Everyday
I found this picture of my Mom's high school basketball team. Check out the referee. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/95237/1/3349235/Medium (Please forgive the scan quality. I'm not good with BW.) Mom's team must have been one of the larger rural communities. They're the ones with uniforms.
RE: A RAW question...
OK. Thanks. My notebook has 2 PCMCIA slots and USB 1.1. I probably should be asking which of those two is faster. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A RAW question... How does the speed on a PCMCIA adapter compare to firewire speed? Much slower. A 1GB microdrive takes something like 20 mins to copy to my notebook (not quite as fast a system as my desktop box, but still a fairly reasonable system - it's a 2.4GHz P4 HP pavilion). As noted, the firewire transfer runs about 3x or 4x that speed, and that's limited by the transfer speed of the Microdrive. With a fast CF card transfer speeds should be significantly higher. At present I'm wondering whether to buy a USB adapter (only worth it if I've got USB 2.0 on the notebook, which I don't think I do), go for the firewire option with an external power cable adapter (rather silly, because the power supply is much larger than the CF reader), or just live with the PCMCIA adapter speeds (awkward, especially if I've got the wireless card plugged into the other PCMCIA slot). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A RAW question... Tanya Mayer wrote: Well, it just took me exactly 1 hour and 26 minutes to download my almost full Microdrive from the shoot! I think this will become one of those start it up and walk away jobs! You'll get no sympathy here, young lady! I just got a big package in the mail containing all the slides I shot in California a couple of weeks ago. Almost as many as your wedding shoot. They'll be grinding their way through the bulk feeder on the slide scanner for many more hours. Talk about a start it up and walk away job! My new FireWire CF reader arrived today. The good news - it downloads a full 1GB microdrive in around 6 minutes (the speed limit is the drive). The bad news - it's powered off the FireWire bus, so it doesn't work with my notebook computer (which only has a 4-wire connector). I guess the PCMCIA adapter is going to have to stay in service a little longer.
RE: Moving some webpages
Where is that article on Chromatic abberation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jostein Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moving some webpages Gang, I'm in the process of switching ADSL provider these days. Installation is due Wednesday, and by that time, all the pages currently at http://home.online.no/~jooksne/ will disappear. It's not much there, but my early comments on chromatic aberration with the *istD and FA 100/2.8 macro are still seeing a couple of visitors a week, and there's the PAWs and WOWs I have indulged into. I will patch them up again at my domain address http://oksne.net/ but it will probably not happen until after Easter. The just published PAW is at my domain address, though. Time to strap the Goggles, I'll be getting 1500 Kbit downstream, 512 Kbit upstream. Wohoo! Cheers, Jostein -
My first PAW
I am posting this purely for the purpose of receiving critique. I am hoping for lots of suggestions. I know some others have posted similar PAWs recently but this old house (or could be a fishing camp) has caught my eye many times while traveling coastal Louisiana and I finally took my camera along. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095034/Medium Before posting this picture I 1) rotated it to keep the water from running out into your monitors 2) cropped it to my liking 3) Made some very minor brightness/contrast adjustments Concerning the rotating, I have been having trouble lately with taking slanted pictures. I never used to have this problem. Any suggestions?
My second PAW
Please forgive my posting two PAWs at one time. I did take the first PAW about a week before the second. As with the first, I am hoping for lots of suggestions. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095033/Medium Before posting the picture, I rotated it slightly and applied a light skew to get the tipping out of the chapel. In retrospect, maybe it has a little lean to it which I should not have altered. Thanks for your help.
RE: My first PAW
This subject is about 2-1/2 hours from home. Occaisionally my job takes my by here to catch a 2 pm helicopter. On this particular day I needed to come earlier. This shot was taken about 9 am. Your're right. Early morning light would be much better. There's a 6 am flight that I could possibly take that would bring my by here about 5 am. Maybe it will work out one day. It better be soon. This guy is about 1 tropical storm away from destruction. Maybe someone will produce a grid screen for the *ist-D. I've been tipping my camera up to line up the base of the frame with the horizon then carefully tipping it back down for the final composition. It's not really working too well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Waller Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My first PAW Kevin, what a great subject! As nice an image as it is, this really needs early morning or late afternoon sun light to take it to the next level. This looks like a subject that you could burn alot of Velvia (or pixels) on. Work it. I use a grid marked focusing screen in all my camera bodies to help with the tilt. Another possibility is a clip on bubble level. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: My first PAW I am posting this purely for the purpose of receiving critique. I am hoping for lots of suggestions. I know some others have posted similar PAWs recently but this old house (or could be a fishing camp) has caught my eye many times while traveling coastal Louisiana and I finally took my camera along. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095034/Medium Before posting this picture I 1) rotated it to keep the water from running out into your monitors 2) cropped it to my liking 3) Made some very minor brightness/contrast adjustments Concerning the rotating, I have been having trouble lately with taking slanted pictures. I never used to have this problem. Any suggestions?
RE: My second PAW
Thanks. I think it's a really interesting little building. It is pretty much in the middle of nowhere. Just place to pull off the road. Unfortunately, the picture is not so interesting. The crop is tight because 1) I lost a little when I straightened the picture and 2) the surroundings seemed to make the picture even less interesting. Here's another perspective I tried. The only edit I've done is to level it. (Again, I don't want the salt-water to run out and ruin all your monitors.) http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/88862/1/3103760/Small So between the two pictures maybe someone can give some suggestions on how to approach this subject, including, I guess, pass it by. OT: Every time I drive by this little shrine, I wonder, What's in there? So, I did step inside the door. There were no lights and the sun was getting low on the horizon. Fortunately, I had the little pop-up flash on my *ist-D. If you are curious, here it is:(this is not a PAW, just documentation of the inside--no need to critique) http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/88862/1/3103776/Small It just sits there, unguarded and open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My second PAW Hi Kevin ... This one doesn't do much for me. The shrine is too close to (and even clipped by) the edge of the frame. A little more space would help the photo quite a bit. Looks a little flat on my monitor, too. shel Kevin Thornsberry wrote: Please forgive my posting two PAWs at one time. I did take the first PAW about a week before the second. As with the first, I am hoping for lots of suggestions. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095033/Medium Before posting the picture, I rotated it slightly and applied a light skew to get the tipping out of the chapel. In retrospect, maybe it has a little lean to it which I should not have altered. Thanks for your help.
RE: My second PAW
Actually what you see back there is the Fourchon river. This is a significant waterway for commercial vessels, especially fishing vessels to get to the Gulf of Mexico. I've been thinking about spending some time one day hanging out there and trying to get the same shot, except with a big shrimper in the background dwarfing the shrine. The photograph was taken from just off the road. It's very likely that the people for whom the shrine was built had some connection to the commerce on that river. That aside, I really appreciate your opinion on this composition being better. If I make it back, I'll try some more like it. Thanks for taking time to comment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My second PAW Kevin, I've looked at the first one, but now having seen this one, won't comment on #1. I'd only be echoing other's comments. I do like this one a lot more. Seeing the road behind it puts it into context as being a roadside chapel in the truest sense of the words. Also, the trees help us to see how small it is; we didn't get that sense in the first one. I like the shrine off-centre a bit, too. I think this photo tells us much more about this building than the first, and for that it's a much better record, and a much better photograph. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My second PAW Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:27:59 -0600 Thanks. I think it's a really interesting little building. It is pretty much in the middle of nowhere. Just place to pull off the road. Unfortunately, the picture is not so interesting. The crop is tight because 1) I lost a little when I straightened the picture and 2) the surroundings seemed to make the picture even less interesting. Here's another perspective I tried. The only edit I've done is to level it. (Again, I don't want the salt-water to run out and ruin all your monitors.) http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/88862/1/3103760/Small So between the two pictures maybe someone can give some suggestions on how to approach this subject, including, I guess, pass it by. OT: Every time I drive by this little shrine, I wonder, What's in there? So, I did step inside the door. There were no lights and the sun was getting low on the horizon. Fortunately, I had the little pop-up flash on my *ist-D. If you are curious, here it is:(this is not a PAW, just documentation of the inside--no need to critique) http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/88862/1/3103776/Small It just sits there, unguarded and open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My second PAW Hi Kevin ... This one doesn't do much for me. The shrine is too close to (and even clipped by) the edge of the frame. A little more space would help the photo quite a bit. Looks a little flat on my monitor, too. shel Kevin Thornsberry wrote: Please forgive my posting two PAWs at one time. I did take the first PAW about a week before the second. As with the first, I am hoping for lots of suggestions. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095033/Medium Before posting the picture, I rotated it slightly and applied a light skew to get the tipping out of the chapel. In retrospect, maybe it has a little lean to it which I should not have altered. Thanks for your help. _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http:// hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: Damaged Wedding Photo
Dave, The playing field was level. Everyone had the same quality available. Go back to the web site and click on the image which will open it in its own window. In the window you can select the size. For maximum enjoyment choose original. Small, medium and large are all smaller than original. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miers Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Damaged Wedding Photo Some of the results are awesome as I tried a bit the other day and got no where close to what some of the guys did. I'm getting the impression though that some of you had a better original file to work with then the original one posted. Did you send a bigger version to the participants Kevin? If so I still wouldn't mind having a go just for practice. I would make a suggestion that if it is doable rathen sending a bigger version of files to each one requesting it, rather post a bigger version for download on personal web space somewhere. Dave -Original Message- From: Kevin Thornsberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 11:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WOW: Damaged Wedding Photo Sorry, I forgot to put WOW in the title. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Thornsberry Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:22 PM To: PDML Subject: WOW: Damaged Wedding Photo WOWers, Here's a bit of a challenge. I found a framed picture from when my parents got married. Somehow portions of the picture had stuck to the glass. Before trying to remove the picture I decided to scan it glass and all. Here's the result. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/81452/1/2829205 In addition to the parts that are stuck, you can see the picture has faded due to the dark border where no light had hit the picture. I did my best with it a couple of years ago. With what some of you have accomplished with the WOW I thought I'd throw it out there for you to try. In a day or so I'll post the submissions as well as what I was able to do. Thanks. Kevin
RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
Well, in an experiment I did in generating data for Rob. I reran the test several times. The tests tended toward worse results in a manner that I could plot and see the trend. I suspect that the more I used the chip, the warmer it got. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Brigham Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test But surely if it is a hot pixel then it will always be hot at that exposure? If it was only hot for one of the two frames then it must have been an error in the data rather than a stuck hot pixel. It is my understanding that the dark frame exposure is the same 'shutter' time as the main shot, so if it is truly hot it should be there too. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2004 00:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test thermal noise will cause pixels to be bright enough to seem like a hot pixel on a long enough exposure. dark field subtraction can remove only pixels that hot in the dark field. if the actual exposure has bright pixels different from the dark field, they will remain. Photoshop can detect these and filter them out. the camera could too. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I must admit I am slightly puzzled - I thought the in-camera NR (dark frame subtraction) was supposed to get rid of ALL hot pixels by removing any hot pixels in the dark frame from the resultant picture, presumably interpolating a best guess of what should be there. So why do you get ANY hot pixels with NR on?
RE: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Shel, I noticed this on a recent post of mine. When I hit reply the WOW: at the beginning disappeared. I believe it is because the subject became WOW: Outlook stripped it out for me, I guess, with the same algorithm that keeps subject lines from becoming something like RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FW: RE: RE: FW: RE: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject I wonder if putting WOW - instead wold work better. I'll send a test to make sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:27 PM To: PDML Subject: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject I've noticed that a number of messages have the PAW or WOW stripped from the subject line when comments are made about the photos. The idea of putting PAW and WOW into the subject line was to allow people to identify the messages and to perhaps filter them in their mail system. Would whoever is doing this please stop and leave the subject line as it was originally. Thanks!
WOW - Not really, just a test
I'll reply to this and see if the WOW gets stripped.
RE: WOW - Not really, just a test
OK. This seems to work better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Thornsberry Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:32 PM To: PDML Subject: WOW - Not really, just a test I'll reply to this and see if the WOW gets stripped.
Cheap Storage for your *ist D
I just saw a segment on TechTV's Tech Live where they were showing that the Creative MuVo MP3 player contains a regular FAT32 formatted Hitachi 4GB microdrive. The MuVo sells for around $200 while the 4 GB microdrive sells for close to $500. Creative is obviously getting a heck of a volume discount. Remove 4 screws and unplug the microdrive and you have $500 of storage for $200. Here's a link to the story online: http://www.techtv.com/news/scitech/story/0,24195,3640312,00.html If I weren't trying to save money these days, I'd already have my order placed. 4 GB will hold a lot of raw PEF files.
RE: WOW: Damaged Wedding Photo
Thanks. Looks very interesting. I learned something from just visiting the website. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 11:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WOW: Damaged Wedding Photo Hi Kevin ... I won't be able to get to this for a few days, but I'd like to recommend a great book that will help you with similar restorations. http://www.digitalretouch.org/ shel Kevin Thornsberry wrote: WOWers, Here's a bit of a challenge. I found a framed picture from when my parents got married. Somehow portions of the picture had stuck to the glass. Before trying to remove the picture I decided to scan it glass and all. Here's the result. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/81452/1/2829205 In addition to the parts that are stuck, you can see the picture has faded due to the dark border where no light had hit the picture. I did my best with it a couple of years ago. With what some of you have accomplished with the WOW I thought I'd throw it out there for you to try. In a day or so I'll post the submissions as well as what I was able to do. Thanks. Kevin
RE: WOW - ready to go yet?
Good point. I noticed this when when trying to dodge out some of the shadows. For some reason I can't locate the slide. It's not in its sleeve. If I do I'll probably rescan it with more care. I think this one came from a PhotoCD scan I had done a few years ago. I may also go back to that PhotoCD and make sure I haven't done something (like levels) that may have destoyed some data. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WOW - ready to go yet? - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I just don't think the color, contrast and saturation are where they should be. Maybe the raw material here is not as good as I want it to be. Kevin, You're absolutely correct there, and the corrected versions you've received are amazingly good, especially considering the starting point. Had a go at it myself, but I then saw Wendy's version and realised that mine was almost the same with very minor differences due to personal tastes - I neutralised the colours more but ultimately I prefer the little bit of warmth that Wendy let through. When a picture resists colour balancing, as this one did at first, it's often educational to split the colour channels and look at them individually. They should all be full scale bw images but in this case the blue channel seemed deeply underexposed. But lightening it reveals a more insidious problem, there is solarization in the image. Look at this: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2190074 Any number of factors could have caused this, over-age or heat effected film, x-ray fogging perhaps, contaminated processing chemicals, or it could be an artifact of the original scan. It's caused crossed curves, which are hard to see through the red/yellow caste of the original, but show up as correct colour balance is being approached. Auto-level adjustments seem to cope very well with this problem, I'm impressed by what others have done. regards, Anthony Farr
RE: On WOW (logicists)
Boris, I've been collecting the responses to mine. I'll give the link shortly. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 12:41 PM To: PDML Subject: On WOW (logicists) Hi! WOW is good, way good. Unfortunately time to time my internet connection sucks. I cannot access pages. It gives me blank pictures etc. I wonder is there a generous soul on this list who actually saved the links from WOW participants. If so, I would appreciate the link and/or (private) e-mail. In fact, I think that perhaps a WOW initiator could eventually produce a page where they would kind of summarize the workshop. I would be certain to add these links to my favorites! What do you say? I am totally out of whack? Boris
RE: On WOW (logicists)
I use Smugmug which is a great site but it isn't free. We'd probably want someplace that is. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jostein Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: On WOW (logicists) In my opinion, the one that requests the WOW should also put the suggestions on display. Lasse and Chris already did so for their images, and I think it's a very fair way of saying thankyou to the contributors. It would be a good thing if we had *one* place to post all the WOWs, but I'm not going to volunteer to set up that kind of site. :-) To those who are familiar with the public posting sites like photo.net and smugmug: Is there any chance of creating a coherent space for ourselves at any of these sites so that all the WOWs appear in one virtual room? Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: On WOW (logicists) Hi! WOW is good, way good. Unfortunately time to time my internet connection sucks. I cannot access pages. It gives me blank pictures etc. I wonder is there a generous soul on this list who actually saved the links from WOW participants. If so, I would appreciate the link and/or (private) e-mail. In fact, I think that perhaps a WOW initiator could eventually produce a page where they would kind of summarize the workshop. I would be certain to add these links to my favorites! What do you say? I am totally out of whack? Boris
WOW: Kevin's Picture Results
WOWers Thanks to all of you who gave of your time to give my picture a try. Seeing it through your eyes has helped me to see it a little differently. When I can, I think I'll go back and rescan it balanced to colors a little more like what most of you have tried to achieve post scan. This link will take you to all of the responses I received and includes whatever explaination I was given. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/78375/1/2720178 I've included my own attempt. Feel free to comment here or in the gallery itself on what you like and don't like. I have found this very educational. Kevin
RE: WOW - ready to go yet?
OK. I don't want to interfere with the plan here, but I have a picture I took 20 years ago and have always wished I could do something with it. I just can't seem to get satisfied with it. Once you get to the picture you can display and download in several sizes. If anyone can get this picture over the hump, I would be very grateful. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/78232/1/2714364 Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Hodgson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WOW - ready to go yet? I've kind of lost track on we we're at (been out of town). Are there any images ready to be tweaked? I'm ready if someone has one. Wasn't Dave going to be the first to provide an image for us to manipulate? Larry from Prescott
RE: WOW
Shel, I used the color correction feature in Picture Window Pro 3.1. I masked off the grey area sampled it and the blue area and remapped the grey to the blue. Then I lightend it a tad. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/photos/2716386-M.jpg Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WOW This is a wonderful idea ... I just love all the new ideas relating to making pictures that have surfaced recently. Whoever came up with this one deserves a great big atta boy! For the moment I'd like some help on this pic: http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/elevator1.jpg You'll notice that the concrete on the shade side of the elevator is grey, and I'd like to get it to match the blue of the other side. I'll jump in and help whenever I can. I missed some of the earlier messages. What's the procedure ... just post pics to the PDML as I've done here, and anyone interested in helping will do so? Thanks!
RE: WOW - ready to go yet?
Well, I intentionally left that out. I kind of wanted to see what other people thought needed fixing. One thing I did myself after uploading was to run it through Neat Image which helped. And obviously there are some specks which I can remove myself. I should have said that. I just don't think the color, contrast and saturation are where they should be. Maybe the raw material here is not as good as I want it to be. What are your suggestions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WOW - ready to go yet? What do you want to do with it, Kevin? Kevin Thornsberry wrote: OK. I don't want to interfere with the plan here, but I have a picture I took 20 years ago and have always wished I could do something with it. I just can't seem to get satisfied with it. Once you get to the picture you can display and download in several sizes. If anyone can get this picture over the hump, I would be very grateful. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/78232/1/2714364
RE: WOW Kevin's picture
OK. See my response to Shel's same comment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lasse Karlsson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WOW Kevin's picture From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK. I don't want to interfere with the plan here, Kevin, you are not interferring with anything. Your message is exactly what my idea was about. Whoever wants someone to look at or help out with a picture can post a call for WOW. You are acting exactly according to plan. but I have a picture I took 20 years ago and have always wished I could do something with it. I just can't seem to get satisfied with it. Once you get to the picture you can display and download in several sizes. If anyone can get this picture over the hump, I would be very grateful. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/78232/1/2714364 It would help though, if you tried to explain as much as you can why you are not satisfied with it. Almost anything can be done to a picture and almost any look may seem alright to me... Lasse
RE: To rescue a family photo
I color balanced, boosted the saturation, widened the dynamic range and raised the midtones http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/photos/2717114-M.jpg For color balance I used the piece of paper in the lady's hand, the weathered post and the shadow under one of the boats. I believe more could be done with a file with more resolution and less compression. I would have like to have run this one through Neat Image. I didn't bother to do any spotting. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lasse Karlsson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 8:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WOW: To rescue a family photo From: Larry Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've kind of lost track on we we're at (been out of town). Are there any images ready to be tweaked? I'm ready if someone has one. Wasn't Dave going to be the first to provide an image for us to manipulate? Alright, Dave said he'd find a shot for us to start with, but obviously hasn't found the time to do it yet. In the meantime I will provide the following shot and invite any volunteers to have a go at it and see what you can do. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2187459 This is a (small size) scan I made of one of my mother's negs. It's a shot from a trip to Holland in the early 70:s. When I saw the scan I thought: What a pity, the neg has obviously deteriorated beyond possible reconstruction. I guess many of us have already have or will run into similar experiences. But is it really lost? Anyone find it interesting enough to try and have a go at it? See what you can do, show us the results and tell us what you did? Volunteers can post their finished versions to me and I can upload it alongside the original. (I will also show you what I came up with, although I must admit I have completely forgotten how I did it.) Lasse
RE: To rescue a family photo
Very good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jostein Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 2:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To rescue a family photo Okay, I have made an attempt at Lasse's photo. I use Photoshop 7.01 Lasse's original is at: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2187459 Mark Dalal's suggestion is here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2187853 I had already started looking at Lasse's image when Mark posted his. Mark used colour balance to adjust for the blue tint, which was what I tried first too. I was not very pleased with my result (not as well tweaked as Mark's), so I went for another method. I realised that the different colour layers in the film had probably aged at different speeds, so the blue tint was actually a lack of the other colours. With this in mind, I looked at the separate R, G and B channels, and applied Auto Level Adjustment to each. This landed me at a much better image, but with a blue/magenta tint. This tint was easy to correct, using the same as technique as Mark; to adjust Colour Balance. Here's the actual numbers: Shadow: no adjustment Mid-tones: Cyan-Red: +26, Magenta-Green: +12, Yellow-blue: -23 Highlights: Cyan-Red: +2, Magenta-Green: +17, Yellow-Blue: -28 The result of this was an image with colours I liked, but looking very gritty. The process so far took 5 minutes, just like Mark's. Then I loaded the file into NeatImage, and did a noise reduction based on data from the dark coat of the woman to the left in the picture. Finally, I spent some time removing scratches. All together, I used about 15 minutes. Here's my result: http://home.online.no/~jooksne/wow/wow1.html Comments are most welcome. Jostein
Re: March PUG
Lon and Francis, Thank you. Pretty in Pink by Kevin Thornsberry Wonderful photo. Almost 3-D like. Kevin Thornsberry Pretty in Pink, the hands and the cap's angle make the shot. The pink doesn't hurt either. Nice grab. Kevin
RE: *istD scores a near miss
Yes. It says that since commercials for the *istD have never been on most (any?) people's televisions and commercials for the Canon Digital Rebel have, even tech savy postmoderns who know about PMA aren't going to know about the *istD. Perhaps there's a marketing axiom that states that you can sell a $999 camera on TV but not a $1349 camera. Interestingly, the hosts did state that Pentax makes great digital cameras but they didn't think they make a digital SLR. I suppose Pentax has decided that The Crocodile Hunter can sell Optios on TV but not *istDs. That's their choice but I'm afraid that as Pentax loses market share in the DSLR market, future support for my existing equipment grows more at risk. I just hope this guy who called in finds out that there is a digital body for his existing lenses. Otherwise, maybe we'll be bidding for his stuff on Ebay as he funds his conversion to the Canon. Maybe the fact that those computer guys on TV didn't even know there's a Pentax DSLR out there says something.
RE: *ist D sensor noise survey
May I recommend one additional stipulation. I ran the test for 13 exposures. I found an increasing trend among the number of hot pixels as the number of exposures increased. Perhaps if everyone would run the test with the camera having been at rest for an hour the results might be more consistent. Over the course of my 13 exposures the ratio of hot pixels from the 13th to the 1rst was 1.56. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist D sensor noise survey Hey it's a while since we had a survey... I'm interested in making an informal survey of the noise performance of our *ist D cameras. Anyone with access to a PC who has permission to run the little test app at http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm can participate. One exposure is all that's required for the test however in order to achieve consistency we need to make sure that each camera is set up the same. I propose that the test shot should be made as follows: 10 seconds manual exposure (lens capped) 200ISO Daylight WB NR off Saturation setting (middle) Sharpness setting (left most) Contrast setting (left most) sRGB CS TIFF L file The tiff file can then be opened and tested under the default settings of the DeadPixelTest application and the information file saved. I ran the procedure above and the results were as follows: [DeadPixelText] Version=1.0 Description= FileType=TIFF NumBadPixels=15 0=Hot,2798,135,69 1=Hot,1954,339,113 2=Hot,1809,585,64 3=Hot,726,610,112 4=Hot,726,611,192 5=Hot,726,612,112 6=Hot,2312,753,121 7=Hot,323,766,94 8=Hot,572,1365,116 9=Hot,1627,1400,64 10=Hot,2163,1958,96 11=Hot,2162,1959,113 12=Hot,2163,1959,145 13=Hot,2164,1959,112 14=Hot,2163,1960,98 The first two numbers is the pixel location and the last number is the heat, 0 being off and 255 being full on. So I have one pixel that's 3/4 on at 10 seconds. If anyone would like to mail me their results I'll collate and publish the data later down the track (I'll keep data sources anonymous if requested). Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
No-mail Option?
Is the no-mail option still available for this list? I don't see mention of it in the FAQ but thought I would ask.
RE: photographer arrested
BTW, NPS permits are free, generally. I find it irritating that I may not be free to enjoy my hobby on public land but decided that the thing to do is just make sure I have a permit before I go--problem solved. I checked to NPS website to see what the requirements, costs and procedures are for permits. I found that at least some of the parks require you to have commercial liability insurance in order to get the permit for commercial photography. Suddenly, the difference between commercial and not got a lot more signicant.
Underexposed *istD w/ AF360FGZ (Was:D - Not Pentax but an interesting . . .)
Oh, man. Am I glad you wrote that. I have been having the same problem and it has been driving me insane. It's haunted me for the past two months. I've searched all over the flash and camera for some setting that I have wrong. The whole issue is exasperated by the fact that when not using the flash I normall have the camera in Spot metering mode. When I don the AF360FGZ I forget to switch and invariably the spot is right on somebody's white shirt so I can always have that to blame it on. I've been meaning to do some testing with setting up a test subject and taking the same picture with same settings and conditions with both the FGZ and the built-in flash. I've searched the archives for others mentioning this with no luck even though I think I recall a thread that took place before I owned a *istD. I've seriously been considering sending the body and flash in for repair. How many people are experiencing this problem and what are you doing about it? I've tried some to use camera exposure compensations between +0.5EV and 1.5EV depending on the situation with mixed success. Now, if I could only get the *ist D to not underexpose with the AF360FGZ. -- Bill
Re: Shootin' Kids
If you like Tanya's suggestions, I'd recommend How to Photograph your Baby by Nick Kelsh It has many same and similar suggestions along with some nice anecdotes.
RE: istD Concert photos
Wow! ISO 3200 is looking pretty nice at screen resolutions. Let us know how prints look. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Owens Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:57 PM To: PDML Subject: istD Concert photos Our son, the band director, had his Christmas Concert this evening. I used the ist D with available light, 3200 ISO and manual white balance taken on one of the students shirts. Most were taken with my Tamron 70-300 (105-450 equivalent), all handheld. The more I use the ist D, the more I like it! http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?Page=Last Bill
OT: Too Bad Robert James Wasn't in WTC
Robert, NO! I don't really mean the title I gave this but I couldn't think of a better way to illustrate how shocked I was to read the subject of the posting attached below. While I have passed on reading the vast majority of the threads about the WTC I have to say that of the few I've read, this thread about Falwell is the #1 example of hate mongering I have yet to see on the PDML--and I don't even like Falwell. I think he has reflected very poorly on religion, Christianity, evangelicals and even Jesus. I don't know enough about Pat Robertson to have an opinion. In short, the title of the the thread Too Bad Falwell Wasn't in WTC offends my sensitivities and my beliefes. In it I read that you would wish violent deaths on people with whom you disagree. I don't know how much longer the list as a whole will tolerate the many tangents the WTC conversations have taken and I am trying hard here not to unleash a flame war between us that would take days to extinguish, but I would like the open a door for a little more discussion, on list or off. I'm hoping you will respond with something like, I didn't really mean it the way you took it so we can call the whole thing a misunderstanding and move on. I don't necessarily agree with Mr. Falwell's remarks as quoted, and I'm trying not to turn this into a discussion about what Christians believe but I guess I'll just state that as far as I know it is not inconsistent with traditional Christian belief that God might withold his protection from his people and might even bring punishment upon them when they engage in disobedience. Further, I'll state that as far as I know classifying as disobedience at least two of the items listed, homosexuality and abortion, are not inconsistent with traditional Christian belief. Billy Graham's wife is commonly attributed with a quote that loosely goes something like this, If God does not someday bring a severe judgement on the United States then he will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. (Sorry Mrs. Graham, if I messed it up.) If you disagree with Falwell and Robertson, I can understand that--but, to wish them violent deaths, in my thinking is way more vicious than what they have said. Kevin L. Thornsberry (P.S. Again I want make sure everyone understands the title was just an attention getter. I don't really mean it. I'm hoping the same is true for Robert James and his title) (P.P.S. FWIW - there is no constitutional separation of church and state, merely this simple statement - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC As many Americans have known for years, extreme religious fundmentalists that think they speak for god and that their religions are more important than people's human rights, are truly the greatest evil on earth. Fundamentalist Chrilstians, Jews and Muslims are all bascially the same evil in different clothing.arrogant, ignorant and hate mongers. Subject: Falwell is SICK God Gave U.S. 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says Television evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of the most prominent voices of the religious right, said liberal civil liberties groups, feminists, homosexuals and abortion rights supporters bear partial responsibility for Tuesday's terrorist attacks because their actions have turned God's anger against America. God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve, said Falwell, appearing yesterday on the Christian Broadcasting Network's 700 Club, hosted by Robertson. Jerry, that's my feeling, Robertson responded. This isn't as disgusting as what the terrorists did, but it's disgusting. The most ironic thing about these vicious morons is that their attitudes are so far, far, far away from any accepted understanding of Christian behavior. They ought to read what Jesus said for a change and try to make at least a token attempt to understand what Jesus believed in. Falwell and Robertson's attitude has much more in common with the blind fanaticism of Osama bin Laden and the radical muslims than it does with the rest of America, or with real Christianity. I continue to be grateful for our constitutional separation of church and state. - --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net
RE: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
Where did Falwell indicate he approves of violence? -Original Message- From: Treena Harp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC People who handle snakes, drink strychnine or listen to Bob Jones and Jerry Falwell are extremists, plain and simple. Even though they would have a heart attack if you compared them to extremists such as the KKK or other Aryan nation types which practice violence routinely, they are the same in that they don't advocate violence directly, but they do seem to approve it. [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: images of the WTC
I needed the magenta to get the grass dark enough. -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: images of the WTC I can't remember but I think I used an orange filter on that one. Or maybe it was the red one. I should have taken notes. I also had the ISO set on 200 when I was shooting 400 and I forgot to have the lab push it, so I darkened it in Photoshop. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Thornsberry Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:46 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: images of the WTC That made for an interesting study. I pulled the two pictures into Picture Window Pro and then converted the color picture to bw using different color filters. A magenta filter gave the closes results to the bw picture. -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: images of the WTC A while ago I went out shooting in Brooklyn and took two cameras, one with bw film and one with color. I took a picture of the WTC with the Brooklyn Bridge in the foreground. The color one was taken with a K1000 and the bw one was taken with a Minolta Hi-Matic. http://www.dirtybackroad.com/photos/dumbo/bw1.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: That professional thing again
I like the IRS approach. If you make a profit you can call it a business. Otherwise it is a hobby. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:That professional thing again Not to re-open the thread, really; more to air my musings and talk about something other than Current Events. (I'm on another mailing list where that's not off-topic, so I've been getting _that_ out of my system over there, mostly. Without that other outlet, I'd probably be joining in here.) We've discussed it to death here and figured out that to at least some extent the word professional means different things depending on context and speaker. Okay, I wonder how AAA defines it... I spotted a photo contest in a magazine, and noticed in the rules that professional photographers were among those not eligible. Ack! I don't earn a living with my photography, and I'm a long time between sales/jobs, but I _have_ done shoots for money and I do try to sell prints. I wonder whether I'm considered pro in the context of this contest? (I'll see if there's a phone number or email address to contact the contest officials. If not, I guess I'll send 'em a letter.) -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Sept. PUG comments for Thornsberry, Stenquist, Maytola
Very cool! Thanks. -Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:03 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:RE: Sept. PUG comments for Thornsberry, Stenquist, Maytola On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Kevin Thornsberry wrote: So, the question is, what, if anything would push this image to a higher plane. Your lighting suggestion probably won't help here as the station faces directly into the morning sun. Late afternoon would be backlit. I don't know if that would help but it might. A more intersting sky would not have hurt but I'm not going to blame God for my mediocre photography. So, have at it, what could/should I have done to really improve this picture. I'm just going to butt in here for a sec with my opinion. I think the lack of interest that someone mentioned is mainly due to the evenness of the light. There seems to be no variation in the lighting that would attract attention to any one feature or aspect of the scene. Because of this, it comes across as rather flat. NPC has pretty vibrant colours, but some highlights or variations in the light would help to make the colours more interesting and complex. As far as framing goes, you've evidently put some effort into finding a nice composition, and kudos to you for that. I'd only suggest playing around with it a bit more and trying lots of different positions, angles and lenses. For example, cropping this image horizontally just below the two beautiful clumps of grass on the tracks would eliminate a lot of the foreground dirt (which doesn't add much to the image, IMO) and hopefully attract more attention to the station itself. Another thing I'm noticing is that the part of the building closest to the camera is... well, rather boring. :) You might be able to get some more interesting shots by setting up at the other end of the building and emphasizing the conical tower-thingy more. Or even doing some interior shots... I'd love to see what a 1900's toilet looks like! :) The clumps of grass in the foreground lend some nice colour to the shot, as do the green trees and blue sky. Everything else, though (the dirt, rocks, tracks, building, roof...) is fairly dull as far as colouration goes, so you'll have to put in some extra effort to make it appealing. Playing with the lighting may be the best way to do that. This might make a great night shot, for example, illuminated only by any lights there or else a large flashlight. Try different things... As for a more interesting sky, I'd suggest leaving it the way it is. The shot is busy enough as it is without having a detailed sky. I'd just leave it as a nice, simple, rich blue. Hope this helps. It's meant constructively, of course, and it's just my opinion. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Sept. PUG comments for Thornsberry, Stenquist, Maytola
Jaume, Thank you for your comments on my PUG submission. I'm not sure what the proper etiquette for responding to a critique is. I usually don't. Positive or negative I usually just accept it. In this case I think I can learn a little from digging deeper. For perspective let me say that I don't necessarily submit my best work to the PUG, especially if my best shots were accidents. I have been trying to take the themed PUGs as assignments and for the unthemed PUGs, I give myslef an assignment. In this case, I thought this old train station was interesting and assigned myself a particular Saturday morning to be there at sunrise and see what I could do. I agree it isn't great but it is a much better barometer of my ability than maybe some of my better shots are. For the October PUG I'll probably submit another one of these self-assignments from about a year ago. I didn't make the self assignment for the PUG but I think the image fits the theme. In reference to the train station in particular I shot it as part of a larger self assignment. I live in an area with a lot of link to the past. As I drive around I can't help but notice the buildings which betray their decade (or century). I have been thinking toward developing a small portfolio of local scenes, which, in the absence of obvious clues, like cars, etc, would be difficult to place in a decade. It is my hope that if successful, I might be able to use this portfolio to make some small prints or postcards which could help some locals and tourist part with some of their hard earned money and help fund my photo habit. To that end I've even toyed with some bw and sepia toned prints of the train station. Other ideas are a theatre, gas station and a barber shop that hasn't changed one whit since it was built in 1918 by the father of the current 70 year old owner. Even the original 1918 toilet is still in use. So, the question is, what, if anything would push this image to a higher plane. Your lighting suggestion probably won't help here as the station faces directly into the morning sun. Late afternoon would be backlit. I don't know if that would help but it might. A more intersting sky would not have hurt but I'm not going to blame God for my mediocre photography. So, have at it, what could/should I have done to really improve this picture. Kevin Thornsberry's Train Station,... First, I have to say that to me it is a technically correct picture, from a 'showing a place' point of view. I mean, one can have an idea of the building that is showed in the picture and its environment. But there is something that prevents me from saying Great! instead of OK. There is something that makes the picture special for you (ant thus, that makes you submit it to the PUG), that I don't see. And this is something that happens continuously to me. Sometimes it is even me, when I see the slides, that think 'This picture doesn't reflect what I saw there'. Sometimes it happens when I show the picture to someone else. Then I realize that, the feelings that I had there, the story of the picture, makes it special for me but not for this other person, who just looks at it and says 'oh, so you had a nice weather in there...'. Anyway, the place is interesting from a photographic point of view. A more intense light (late afternoon) with shadows showing textures, or a more perpendicular view of the railroad, are possible improvements for the picture. I hope this makes sense to you (and you find it helpful). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Zoom 90-WR question
Of course I can't find my manual tonight so I may mess up some features. Drive Button - 1-self timer, 2-multi timer? 3-motor drive mode (slow) 4-multi exposure 5 interval (set between every 10 sec to every 60 min by holding drive button and pressing zoom buttons) Flash button - If flash mode is set to auto or on then this button toggles red eye preflash on and off. If flash mode if set to off (the moon) or bulb then this button toggles among three settings, no flash, slow speed sync (works great) and slow speed sync with red-eye preflash on BTW, the IR remote does work with my MZ-S No way! I wonder what the IR remote for the MZ-S will cost. If it is more than $125 then people can just buy 90WRs off ebay. Given how small the 90WR remote is it might be the preferable one to use anyway. I've considered the MZ-S. Now I won't have to spend any money on a cable release or IR remote. I don't suppose the zoom button works as well with power zoom lenses. I don't know why you'd want it but it would be cool. If you have questions about any of these, let me know, I'll probably find the manual when I'm looking for something else. Kevin Thornsberry -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Zoom 90-WR question I received my ebay Zoom 90-WR today and everything is pretty straight forward with one exception. Can anyone tell me the purpose of the drive and flash switches that are located underneath the IR remote? Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: My comments for Sep 2001 PUG
Yes, I knew why you did it. One thing is for sure. It's a lot easier to write a comment than it is to take the picture. Had I been photographing the same frog, I might not have ultimately done any differently. -Original Message- From: Luis Pinar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: My comments for Sep 2001 PUG Tree Frog - by Luis Pinar, Argentina - You ask about bokeh. It doesn't bother me as much as the out of focus portion of the limb. I agree. The weak points are the out of focus tree areas, the light patches and the hot zone at right IMO. Almost all of the photo excluding the frog :).But I'm just starting to do some macro and thought the camera should not be totally paralell to the subject to show both eyebrows. Maybe next time... Luis Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The PUG Guy yips a second time
Was it your intention to omit Pentax PS from your list? I carry a Pentax 90WR in my briefcase as it was recommended on this list. -Original Message- From: William Robb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:The PUG Guy yips a second time File: ATT3.txt; charset = Windows-1252 [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The PUG Guy yips a second time
Bravo! Sleep well. We'll find something new to debate while you sleep. -Original Message- From: William Robb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: The PUG Guy yips a second time - Original Message - From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 7:03 AM Subject: Re: The PUG Guy yips a second time William Robb wrote: Submissions must have been made using Pentax Digital, 6x7, 645, K-Mount or M-42 screw mount camera equipment. Third party equipment is welcome if it is Pentax compatible, and either the body or lens is Asahi/Pentax Well done Bill. I think the guidelines are now in the spirit of AOC. The kitchen was getting pretty hot, eh? I take it that the new rules apply for open and themed galleries, whereas before the rule change open galleries permitted any type of equipment. This is what I was trying to get away from. I realize the need for allowing third party equipment, what I really don't want to see is Nikon, Canon, et al starting to creep into the gallery. Sort of waters down the single malt. I added point and shoot to the guideline, which for me covers the 110 camera as well. Now I am going back to bed. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: More MZ-S battery consumprion
What was it doing with all that juice? I often forget to turn off my ZX-5n and it doesn't seem to use much batter power when it is just sitting and waiting for someone to activate the shutter release button. -Original Message- From: Pal Jensen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:More MZ-S battery consumprion My MZ-S was accidentally left on in my camera bag from yesterday until today. That was enough to kill the batteries completely. It was turned accidentally on while squezing it into the camera bag. The on/off switch is great but maybe they should have provided a lock? Pel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: October PUG
I think any number of elements would be acceptable as long as at least one carries the Pentax brand name. -Original Message- From: Steve Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:October PUG October: The Elements II (Earth, Air, Fire, and Water.) How many elements are necessary to qualify? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Please, stop all other topics, we must address the Pal issue.
Shel Shared Now that *is* odd ... I typed it using an a with a small circle over it, and my copy came through that way, but the copy to the list appeared as above. As nearly as I can tell, sometime between 10:30 am (US Central (GMT - 6:00)) on 8/30/01 and 9:46 am on 8/31/01 P*l as we know him ceased to exist and his alter ego, Pel, took over. Was some change to the server made during that time interval? [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Please, stop all other topics, we must address the Palissue.
Hopefully Doug Brewer is following this. I think some change has been made to the PDML. When I sent the last message, I deliberately sent it in rich-text format as a test (sorry all). In checking what came back to me it did not have the rich-text formatting I sent. Usually, when I forget to turn off RTF I get the message back as I sent it. Also attached was the following [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] I wonder if this demime program is stripping/converting all non-regular ascii code from our posts? Hopefully Doug can identify whether something was updated on the PDML during the time period listed below -Original Message- From: Kevin Thornsberry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 7:07 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:RE: Please, stop all other topics, we must address the Palissue. Shel Shared Now that *is* odd ... I typed it using an a with a small circle over it, and my copy came through that way, but the copy to the list appeared as above. As nearly as I can tell, sometime between 10:30 am (US Central (GMT - 6:00)) on 8/30/01 and 9:46 am on 8/31/01 P*l as we know him ceased to exist and his alter ego, Pel, took over. Was some change to the server made during that time interval? [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is Pentax equipment?
Hello, my name is Kevin Thornsberry and I submitted a picture to the September PUG with a Sigma lens. whew . . .I feel better. For October I had planned to submit a picture taken with my ZX-5n and my Pentax FA 28-200, but also with a cheap old Soligor 2x converter I needed to get the shot. I've since replaced the Soligar 2X with Pentax 1.4x and 2x converters. Please advise. Lasse wrote: Maybe because the submission guidelines says that during open months pictures shot with non Pentax equipment are welcome... Well, that's what I thought. I wasn't trying to break the PUG rules. The fact is, I own two non-Pentax branded lenses (and one is in my to be sold category). The other is my Sigma 20/1.8 Ex. Now, I have no problem living within the rules. I'm not going to lie about what I use so if you say that I can't submit pictures with my Sigman 20 then I'll probably just sit some months out since I'm really enjoying using it but for me, when I'm walking around with my Pentax/Sigma combo I'm not a Sigma shooter. I'm a Pentax shooter. Sigma has produced an accessory that permits me to get more enjoyment out of my Pentax equipment. Pentax doesn't really have a lens I consider equivalent. Consequently, if you take a vote, I'd vote for allowing any pictures with some component being Pentax, generally body or lens. However, I reserve some respect for the rebels in this world who will put a Pentax filter (I understand that Pentax SMC filters are of very high quality) on the front of ! a Fijayamigushi system they bought on the home shopping network for $19.99 just to make a statement. If they do, the PDML will deliver the appropriate Boos and Hisses. In the mean time I have a few more confessions to make + I replaced the Pentax neck strap on my Zx-5n with one by Op-Tech. + I once considered buying an Olympus right angle finder because I heard they fit +some Pentax bodies. + I have numerous Pentax lenses purchased from KEH that were later fitted with no +name lens caps. + I recently posted a message to the PDML which contained some remarks in favor of +digital photography. + I filter most threads about Spotmatics and LXs. + I once admired a Nikon F5 in a store. I looked really big and it was all black. + I occaisionally post messages in rich-text format. (Purely by accident, I promise) + I removed a tag from my mattress which clearly stated, Do no remove under penalty +of law. + I drink directly from the milk jug. + I swim within a hour of eating. + I think Seinfeld was a dumb show. + I was a little insulted by Bob Blakely's remarks. + I used to think Disco was cool. Kevin Thornsberry - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: More Yipping from the PUG Guy
I have had situations where I submitted an image while I was temporarily unsubscribed due to list volume conflicting with my e-mail quota. -Original Message- From: Tom Rittenhouse [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: More Yipping from the PUG Guy I would be up for limiting the PUG submissions to current PDML subscribers. That you could automate. Just compare the submission to the mailing list. I the submitter is not there, just send a rejection form back to them with a rejection. This list is in my opinion no longer supported by Pentax, so it should be run for the benefit of the subscribers. Since it is no longer a Pentax USA thing I see no real reason to limit it exclusively to Pentax gear, but I do see a real reason to limit it to list members. --graywolf (Tom) William Robb wrote: I have to get away from this computer.. I have had another look at the PUG Gallery submission guidelines, and after conferring with past maintainers have changed the submission criteria slightly. We will no longer be publishing submissions taken with non Pentax cameras and lenses. Please take a few moments to refamiliarize yourselves with the submission guidelines at: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html and http://pug.komkon.org/general/submit.html Thank you William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Tom Graywolf Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cross Polar Flash Photography (Re: Photographing Sequined Pumps )
Oh, yea. I forgot. This technique is also useful in photographing rocks. It brings out some interesting colors. -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Cross Polar Flash Photography (Re: Photographing Sequined Pumps ) Kevin, again, thanks so much -- I'm leaving all you wrote below because I archive things in my sent mail - hope other PDMLers don't mind - I think your info is very um illuminating - and I'm not surprised that it turns up in something George Lepp wrote -- I used to read him religiously. Having studied a bit of Microscopic Petrology I knew about crossed Nichols. The prices you mention are not prohibitive. Best, Ann Thornsberry, Kevin L wrote: Ann According to the Edmund Scientific website, polarizing film can be had for about $15 for a sheet 8.5 inches by 5 inches or a 2 inch square 2 pack can be had for $6.40. As I understand it you need two pretty strong strobes since you'll be losing a lot of light. To orient the films overlay your lens' polarizing filter with the film and rotate for miminum tranmittance. Mark the top of the film and the top of the polarizing filter in this orientation. Now when you install the film on the strobes and the filter on your lens make sure your marks are still on top. In the applications I've heard of the strobes were mounted on a bracket attached to the camera with one strobe on each side. To see an example of this technique in use go to www.leppimages.com and choose to view the Shoreline Print collection. The sand dollar picture labeled Sparkling Embrace (lower left on page 1) used the cross polar technique. Note it retains the strongest reflections withouth the image being overpowered. I'm not sure about the other two sand dollar pictures. I'm sure an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would yield a list of which of his images were made using the cross polar technique. Ann wrote: Kevin - so glad you brought that up -- I mentioned it almost a year ago when I first got on the list - no one seemed to know about it. I was basically asking for exactly what you explained - how to establish the angles. I was thinking of using floods instead of flashes, tho for the two auxiliary lights. My idea was to cross Nichols looking through the camera at the polarizer on the light source(s) rotating the polarizer on the camera only 'til it turned black. I have an awful feeling those polarized sheets are expensive as all get out though. annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: Photographing Sequined Pumps
Also try cross polarization. Mount two flash units with polarizers oriented the same way. Mount a polarizer on your lens at 90-degrees polarization. Hopefully you have TTL cause your gonna lose a lot of light. This technique is used to photograph paintings without getting glare. Might work. For the polarizers for the flash units, try a scientific catalog. -Original Message- From: Doug Franklin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Photographing Sequined Pumps On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 09:59:56 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: obPhoto: I never did manage to get a picture I really liked of my silver sequined pumps. Never managed the make them really sparkle dramatically and still show any detail -- each photo did one or the other but not both. Suggestions? Maybe surround them with five or more light sources or reflectors, then take the shot through a polarizing filter turned to polarize as much as it can? TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: Attachments part 2
I've always been the kind of person people have to get used to. I thought surely the anomymity of the internet had hidden my propensity for social quirks. Oh, well. The rich-text problem only applies when I am replying to a pdml post. Posts I originate correctly default to ascii but for some reason I can not get the replies to behave the same way. So, sometimes I remember to change the replies manually and sometimes I don't. Sorry, my wife tried the upgrade to Male 2.5 but it contains features not supported by my antiquated hardware. To utilize the more bug free features of Male 2.5 she'd have to throw me out altogether and get a brand new system--a little like throwing out an LX(in my opinion) for a MZ-S, an interesting proposition but, in the end, not quite worth it. My thanks to those of you who have gotten used to my rich text and put up with the occaisional attachment is generates. Kevin Thornsberry v.1.0 -Original Message- From: Jody [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 5:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Attachments part 2 Oh, we're used to that from Kevin. There is another guy who sends us little Winmail attachments each time. I forget who, I only remember his name begins with Win. So does mine, and you don't catch me sending them (that was Yahoo last time, not me). Maybe he just needs an upgrade to Male V2.5. That version has a few minor bugs straightened out. Jody. --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, Just FYI in future - sending attachments to a list is a definite no no - many reasons for this. Needless to say, I aint gonna open it :) annsan Kevin Thornsberry wrote: __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Selling Photographs!
Yes, www.shareyourworld.com is pretty much what you are describing but as of tonight the sight appears to be down. I think it is a longshot you'll make any money here but you might. www.prophotoprints.com might use your stuff if it is good and marketable www.photoreflect.com will provide you an internet storefront where you can direct customers. I think they get 1/3 of whatever you sell through them. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Selling Photographs! Hi all Do any of you great photographers know if there is a web site, where you/we can submit your/our photographs for sale or hire? I know of professional agencies, that market photographs taken by more or less employed photographers (freelance). Some photographer do this for a living. Some for fun/on the side. But wouldn't it be nice if you/we/amateurs could submit some great shots to a website for a reasonable fee - say 1-5$ pr. photograph used for marketing, maintenance etc. The website/the website administrator could market the site in different ways. Magazines, marketing agencies etc. could use the photos for a fee. The biggest problem is how to make that website, how to organize the thumbnails, how to establish a quality control and how to administer the commercial aspect of the whole thing. Answers and ideas are very welcome. Best Regards Jens, Denmark pt. Ireland - WebMail fra Tele2 http://www.tele2.dk - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: D1x review - digital coming? (was MZ-S Custom)
As I recall, at one time this fall was supposed to be the date for the MZ-Digital. Then I believe there was some talk of delay. What is the latest guess of a release date and has there been any talk to suggest a price below the previously discussed $7000 US. -Original Message- From: Brendan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: D1x review - digital coming? (was MZ-S Custom) Geez reading that was like listening to some kind of cult propaganda but the dust part is very interesting, once it gets on the ccd it's there forever. I admint I like the apeal of digital but untill the resolution/cost vs film improves I'll stay film and keep my lp's. --- Ed Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a close look at this D1x review from a longtime Nikon owner. Rave talk about the camera, but it alerted me to the problem of dust on in a digital SLR, which I had never considered. http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d1x.htm Thanks, Ed ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Custom (WAS: Re: MZ-S Designers' Story (Parts 1-3))
It sounds like they use an electrostatic process by which an electrically charged camera body is coated with an oppositely charged powder and then baked to melt and bind the paint to the body. To me, hand painting merely means that instead of bodies moving through a tunnel of nozzles spaying the powder, a human being takes a second or two to spray the powder making extra certain that the coating is even and no corners or crevaces are undercoated. He could also reject overcoats to be washed and returned for another pass. -Original Message- From: Paul Jones [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 6:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: MZ-S Custom (WAS: Re: MZ-S Designers' Story (Parts 1-3)) I stand corrected on the hand painting point. I'd love to know how they actualy define hand painting. - Original Message - From: Pal Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: Re: MZ-S Custom (WAS: Re: MZ-S Designers' Story (Parts 1-3)) Paul Jones wrote: I agree, I think the closest an MZ-S gets to hand painting is a man in a factory somewhere pressing button to spray some coating on them and i dont consider this handpainting. What we think is one thing. This is what pentax says about the matter : We also paid attention to the body coating to make it extra-durable and give the MZ-S an distinctive appearance. In our exclusive three-layer, three-bake coating process, we first apply a black base layer, and then a second flat layer. After each layer is applied, the body parts are carefully baked to provide maximum protection. The third and final layer is applied by hand to create a sandy surface texture and outstanding holding comfort. The parts are baked for the third time to perfection. Since the final layer is hand-applied, a careful inspection shows that each MZ-S has a slightly difference texture, providing sense of personality for the user. It would not be cost effective for Pentax to do this. If Pentax wanted to be cost effective they would have made the MZ-S body out of colored plastic. I'm amazed how people constantly fail to see the concept behind the MZ-S. Pentax wanted to make a fine camera. Conceptually its closer to a Contax than a Canon. The paint and finish is part of the concept. Pal - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: Re: OT: pics
David, For some reason Moeraki Boulders struck me as a strong composition. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Sv: Re: OT: pics Nice homepage David! Nice and informative. Regards Jens Fra: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dato: 2001/08/18 Sat AM 05:59:12 CEST Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: OT: pics Jody writes: I have to get into portraits. Just need to get that LX. I already have the M100:f4 macro which doesn't fit/work with any of my current cameras. People have said it's a good portrait lens. Any day now, I can't wait. I was under the impression that macro lenses were considered too sharp for portraits. Anyway f/4 isn't fast enough. You need an A* 85/1.4 :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - WebMail fra Tele2 http://www.tele2.dk - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: Kodak Photo-CD: Good or Bad ?
I started with Photo CD. It's a great way to get some images to begin working with digitally. Unfortunately, at the time it had a bit of a problem with its color space as interpreted by some programs. Check this website http://tedfelix.com/PhotoCD/PCDLostHighlights.html I am definately able to get better scans (partly because I care more about the result of my own pictures than anyone else) with my HP S20. Panoramas will be tough unless the technician scans all the component images with the same exposure and color adjustments. -Original Message- From: Michel Adam [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 4:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss@Pdml. Net Subject:Kodak Photo-CD: Good or Bad ? Calling for input on Kodak Photo-CD. Is it worth it? In my area, scans are $2.50 per 35mm frames, $6 for medium format (for the 5 pack resolution), and the CD's are $13. How good is the quality? All I need it for at this point is to put a panorama together, i.e. scan, do the pano in photoshop, and then send it back to the lab for producing a 6x12 or 4x5 neg. or transparancy, and then print. Would I be better off with custom scans instead of mucking about with the Kodak YCC color profiles? Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
August Pug Comments and LX Gallery Comments
The August PUG gallery . . . Henry Chu - Lights of Hong Kong - Beautiful. It's not easy to make that kind of sky into a nice pic. Tiger Moses - Arches at Night - The flashing (airplane?) lights are awesome. Think how different if they had continued out of the picture. If so, I would have probably cloned them out. As it is, they make the picture. Mark Roberts - Leicester Square Carousel - Another beautiful picture. Jostein Oksne - Night Pipe - Neat alternative light source--I'm impressed with your vision in seeing that photo in a garbage incinerator. Joseph Tainter - Maison Carree, Nimes - The color saturation is high for my personal taste but the angle makes for a strong perspective. Albano Garcia - Luz de Luna - Looks like a really challenging shot--also pleasing. Please comment on your approach to determining a correct exposure. David A. Mann - Hands - Very pleasing to look at. John Coyle, Australia - Cranes - I really like this shot due to it's geometry, simplicity and coloring. Kevin Thornsberry - Hot Tungsten - Pretty much how I would've approached the same subject. Alin Flaider - Antim Monastery - I like it. Can't exactly pinpoint what makes it stand out to me. And from the LX Gallery . . . Jostein Oksne - Factory - Another nice industrial shot. Steve Larson - San Diego Condos - Crisp. Jose R. Rodriguez - Flower Girl - It's really hard to get good pictures of new babies. Congratulations. The flowers make the picture interesting to those of us who have not emotional attachment to the child. Stan Halpin - Spiderwort - I really like the subject and the lighting but the background competes with the flower. Is it your hand? P.S. I grew up in Missouri, thanks for the visual momento. Vic MacBournie - Fall at the Oxtongue - The rain and the long exposure were excellent choices. If I had taken this cool picture, I'd try to go back when the rain and light would be repeated and try for an even longer (really long) exposure. This is one of those shots that I'd work on for years trying to get perfect. Aaron Reynolds - Luka - Thank God for windows. They make kid photography a lot easier. You did a great job on this one. Sas Gabor - The Tunnel - OK. I'm sold. Someone send me one of these LXs. Also send the tourists. They did a great job of getting the lighting even. Did you consider this shot for the Alternative Light gallery? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax Photos at National Geographic
It didn't take long. -Original Message- From: Creature's Comfort [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 12:23 PM To: Pentax List Subject:Pentax Photos at National Geographic Here's a fun way to spend some time: Go to http://www.nationalgeographic.com and type Pentax in the SEARCH OUR SITE box at the top of the page. This returns links to NG pages with Pentax pictures. Also interesting to compare the number of hits when searching for leica, contax, nikon, etc. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: Digital weddings - or why I want a full-frame Pentax digital
The other day I was driving to work and was passed by a truck pulling a trailer like I see a lot of sheetrock contractors pull--Maybe 5'x8' or so. I was surprised to see the lettering on the side of the trailer say it was a photographer. He advertised himself as an event photographer--weddings, sporting events and motorcycle events. My first impression was that this guy carried a lot of equipement. I imagined all the lighting equipment he must have in that trailer. Then I noticed on the trailer that he also advertised ON SITE DIGITAL PRINTING WITH KODAK PROFESSIONAL PAPER FOR ANY EVENT!! ALL 8 X 10 $20.00 or 5 x 7 $10.00 . Then it clicked. The trailer isn't full of photographic equipment. He's got a computer and printer in there. Epson 1270, 1280 or 2000P no doubt. When I got to work I found his web presence at http://kellumphoto.photoreflect.com. It turns out that photoreflect is an internet storefront for digital photographers. It's largely populated by photographers who show up at soccer or softball tournaments, take pictures of every kid through the day (perhaps 200 - 300 exposures per game) and let people know where on the internet they can look to buy prints when the get home. This guy's trailer showed a picture of one of the digital Nikon/Kodak bodies that have been out for a couple of years at exhorbitant prices. I would think anyone with a Nikon D1 or a Canon D30 or, Lord willing, the new digital Pentax could certainly make some sales this way. Film cost and scanning time would make this impossible for a film based approach but with digital it opens up a new market. I find myself wondering if I could fund the purchase of digital body this way. Kevin -Original Message- From: John Mustarde [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Digital weddings - or why I want a full-frame Pentax digital [] . . . . . I'm not willing or able to take on weddings myself, but a working pro should have no problem switching to digital, at least for the candid photos. The bride-to-be: http://web2.airmail.net/linnm3/A-Lori026.jpg The sergeant-at-arms: http://web2.airmail.net/linnm3/C-Image009.jpg -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Check out this weird ebay auction!
Not so. Even if you take delivery by e-mail there is a shipping charge. -Original Message- From: SJMarriott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Check out this weird ebay auction! If you bid 1c and round down it'll cost you nothing! - Original Message - From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction! I'm in Melbourne Australia and we ditched the 1c coin about 5 years ago at a guess, we dont go lower than 5c now. - Original Message - From: petit miam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Check out this weird ebay auction! ...of one cent :) Hey do you guys still have 1c coins? --- Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1253139794 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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After unsubscribing for a recent trip I've been following via the mail archive but got tired of it being so far behind so I finally decided to resubscribe. Also, I keep wanting to comment. If I had read the directions I could have avoided a couple of unnecessary posts to the list due to sending my subscribe request to the wrong address. My how times have changed. There was a day on the internet when dumb moves like that would have been an open invitation to a good flaming. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX Question -
How can I tell if an LX has been updated to fix sticky mirror? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Lab Sleeving machines and scratches
Look more closely and I bet you find a finger print on the end fram of each cut strip where they pulled the film through without wearing gloves. Even pretty good labs do this. If I'm trying for a good scan of the end frame I automatically grab the PEC-12 because I know the print is going to be there. -Original Message- From: Gerald F. Cermak [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:17 PM To: Pentax Discussion List Subject:Lab Sleeving machines and scratches I've been intermittently using a lab near work (with a fine Fuji mini-lab machine). However, initially they were not cleaning the machine well enough, and I was getting occasional scratches and torn emulsions. After some complaints, they cleaned things up. But lately, my print film has been coming back with scratches along the non-emulsion (plastic) side of the film, horizontal, except for one vertical scratch every fourth frame (corresponding to the film strip width produced by their sleeving machine). The prints no show signs of scratches (at 4x6's or 6x8's). The scans I make later on are ruined though, because of the scratches. I even shot a test roll in a new body, and had the lab manager run it end to end, and they also had the same scratch pattern. They said I'm the only one complaining, suggested I think about going digital, or go to a pro lab. I refused all these. I'm probably their only customer that scans 3600 dpi film at home, and most people don't get reprints of their film. They finally believed the scratches were coming from them, but don't know why. It appears to me that their automatic sleeving machine is dragging the plastic side of the film across something, and then when it clamps the film for cutting every 4th frame, producing a vertical scratch too. It really seems it couldn't be coming from anywhere else in the process. Have other people noticed scratches on film coming from labs that use automatic sleeving machines? Are their any particular quirks about using these machines that can cause problems, things the lab may not have learned about yet? I'd really like to continue using them, as they are quite convenient to work, and when they get things right, the results couldn't be better. Thanks, Gerald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: Business Cards
Depending on your inteneded use and volume you might consider a non business card size. Why not something 3 x 5 or so? The easily fit into a shirt pocket and if the photo is interesting, the card might find it's way to a bulletin board near someone's desk. -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Business Cards I've been leaning more towards Bob's way of thinking, in that a business card-sized photo may not cut it, but after reading your post and Tom Helbekkno's comments, I may try something that does include a photo, or a portion of a photo. This type of card: http://www.bc-photo.com/images/bcphotocard.jpg doesn't really feel right to me, as I'd want something more graphic or hard-edged. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Grain is the brushstroke of photography. - Man Ray tom wrote: Depends on what kind of photographer you are. If you're trying to get hired by people who aren't in the business, having a photo on your card is an excellent way to give them an idea of what you do. Wedding and portrait photography are good examples. From what I've seen of Shel's work (walking up to unknown people on the street), it might be a good idea. Obviously, you need the right photo. You probably need to think in magazine cover terms - a pic with enough 'blank' space to support some text. tv Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, I don't know any photographers who put photos on their business cards (although when I was working at eToys the people there had photos of themselves as kids on their cards!). I think most photos would not translate well to that size. However, many photographers have a photo printed as a postcard, with their business-card details on the back, and this seems quite effective to me. The simpler the photo, the more effective it is, imo, and (again just an opinion) I think overprinting a photo looks terrible. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Common sense is the metaphysics of the stone age - Bertrand Russell It's time for common sense - William Hague, 2001 Friday, May 11, 2001, 7:03:46 PM, you wrote: This is the way I'll go for my next batch of biz cards. Right now I have black lettering on a light tan base with my name, phone number and website. For most things I figure simpler is better, but in this case, I think cards with one of your better images is an appropriate idea. Do a search online and you'll find a bunch of sites that can set you up. tv Jeff Geilenkirchen wrote: Hiya Shel - I've seen business cards which were photographs with the lettering super imposed on the image. They look pretty cool! Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff I'm going to have some business cards made up, and while I've a couple of ideas for the design, it might be nice to get some other input. If any of you have cards that are on line, I'd love to have a look at them. Thanks! -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Thomas Van Veen Photography Washington D.C. http://bigdayphoto.com/ 301-758-3085 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: What Do You Carry
In low light situations you can hand the flashlight to a subject. Have them hold it by their face point it at you. It can make focusing a lot easier. -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: What Do You Carry A few people have mentioned a small flash light. What purpose does that serve? application/ms-tnef
RE: Telephoto Lense
Autofocus or A* version? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Telephoto Lense I have a Pentax 300mm f2.8 ED IF that I would like to sell. Any suggestions on where I should sell it? It is in mint condition, complete with manual, trunk case and strap. File: ATT7.htm application/ms-tnef
RE: What Do You Carry
OK. I've been wanting to ask but figured I'd be laughed off the PDML for being naive. What's the verdict on these lenspens? Are they OK for my cherished Pentax glass? I've always been super careful about only cleaning my lenses when they really, really had to have it. I like the convenience of the lenspen but have been afraid to trust it on my SMC lenses. -Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:24 PM To: Pentax List Subject:Re: What Do You Carry On Tue, 8 May 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Apart from camera(s) and lens(es), what do you take with you when out shooting for a day? What items do you usually keep in your camera bag? I take very few accessories, actually. I'll have a cleaning cloth and maybe a lenspen, extra batteries, lens caps, hoods where applicable, a K-mount adapter ring if necessary, and that's about it. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
RE: PUG Comments (NEW IDEA)
Ditto! Thanks for all you do! -Original Message- From: Lasse Karlsson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: PUG Comments (NEW IDEA) Chris, I'm really happy to hear that you haven't been discouraged by the recent debate. application/ms-tnef
RE: Sunny 16 Rule
Not bad advice but bracket until you are comfortable with your camera and film. I'm currently reading a book on light which recommends taking a week or so and force yourself to learn to judge with your eye sunny sixteen corrections. Some rare shots just can't be metered. That's when it pays to be a good guesser and a bracketer. As to your contrasty midday photos I don't think sunny 16 will help. Landscapes are traditionally tough at midday. -Original Message- From: RK [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 2:53 AM To: Pentax discuss Subject:Sunny 16 Rule I've messed up some very important landscape shots- I had to take them about just after noon in blazing sunlight and the resulting images are ghastly: burnt out highlights with deep shadows. I showed them to a pro and he recommended I use the Sunny 16 rule whenever I take photos in bright sunshine- i.e., I ignore the CW meter reading. Is this good advice? I shoot print film and my usual outfit for outdoor shots would be a MZ5+17mm Tokina Thanks. RK Yeah, I know late morning would have been great for such shots but that was not possible here. Or should I just meter for the highlights next time (there'll be a next time tomorrow!) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . application/ms-tnef
