Re: Elements 10?
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: If you're using PE10 please contact me off list. Thanks, Jack I'm using version 9, can i contact you on the list.???:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: elements on a mac and a pc?
Found the EULA online... doesn't look good: 2.10 Dual Boot Platform. The Software is licensed for use on a specific operating system platform. You must purchase a separate license for use of the Software on each operating system platform. By way of example, if you desire to install the Software on both the Mac OS and Windows operating system platforms on a device that runs both of those platforms (i.e., a dual boot machine), then you must first obtain two separate licenses for the Software. This is true even if two versions of the Software, each designed for a different operating system platform, are delivered to you on the same media. Cory Waters wrote: Mom got me the PC version of PSE8 for my birthday (Mom's are great, huh?). I'd like to put it on my PC AND my Macbook but there's no OSX version in the box. Adobie's phone support is down today for service... anybody ever go cross platform with Elements? It worked out so well with my copy of Lightroom. CW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2773 - Release Date: 03/27/10 03:32:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: elements on a mac and a pc?
Download the OSX version and use the license for that version and don't use the PC version. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: Found the EULA online... doesn't look good: 2.10 Dual Boot Platform. The Software is licensed for use on a specific operating system platform. You must purchase a separate license for use of the Software on each operating system platform. By way of example, if you desire to install the Software on both the Mac OS and Windows operating system platforms on a device that runs both of those platforms (i.e., a dual boot machine), then you must first obtain two separate licenses for the Software. This is true even if two versions of the Software, each designed for a different operating system platform, are delivered to you on the same media. Cory Waters wrote: Mom got me the PC version of PSE8 for my birthday (Mom's are great, huh?). I'd like to put it on my PC AND my Macbook but there's no OSX version in the box. Adobie's phone support is down today for service... anybody ever go cross platform with Elements? It worked out so well with my copy of Lightroom. CW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2773 - Release Date: 03/27/10 03:32:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: elements on a mac and a pc?
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:22 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Download the OSX version and use the license for that version and don't use the PC version. I'm pretty sure the license keys are platform specific. Sounds like you need to buy the version for the other computer, Cory. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: elements on a mac and a pc?
On 2010-03-27 14:10 , Cory Waters wrote: Mom got me the PC version of PSE8 for my birthday (Mom's are great, huh?). I'd like to put it on my PC AND my Macbook but there's no OSX version in the box. well, you can run Windows on your Mac, and install Elements in Windows i use VMWare Fusion, but plenty of people like Parallels too, and both Boot Camp and Virtual Box are free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
Thanks Brian. I have forwarded that on to Harry. There are *some* at the old work place i don't mind helping out, but only some.:-) Dave On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
He could also save it as a png, which also supports transparency, but retains a larger color range. -p On 2/1/2010 6:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2660 - Release Date: 01/31/10 13:35:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't
recommend it but it's available.
On 2/1/2010 7:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com
wrote:
Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying
to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant.
Any tips
This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might
work:
http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background
The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed
for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit
the image to 256 colours.
Cheers
Brian
++
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Re: Elements 2 ??
P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. ann On 2/1/2010 7:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. They aren't completely compatible with versions of Internet Explorer prior to 7. And there are still a huge number of people (predominantly on corporate IT systems) running IE 6. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
PNG has a lot of overhead, and are much larger than the equivalent Gif.
Makes for a slow loading web page if you don't need them.
On 2/1/2010 2:45 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't
recommend it but it's available.
Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go
on dark objects) and you get
the full color range.
ann
On 2/1/2010 7:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com
wrote:
Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is
trying
to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant.
Any tips
This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might
work:
http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background
The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed
for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit
the image to 256 colours.
Cheers
Brian
++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
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Re: Elements 2 ??
On 2/1/2010 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
ann sanfedele wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't
recommend it but it's available.
Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on
dark objects) and you get
the full color range.
They aren't completely compatible with versions of Internet Explorer
prior to 7. And there are still a huge number of people (predominantly
on corporate IT systems) running IE 6.
That too, but I didn't think of that, and if you're still running IE 6
you get what you deserve...
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Re: Elements 2 ??
P. J. Alling wrote: On 2/1/2010 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. They aren't completely compatible with versions of Internet Explorer prior to 7. And there are still a huge number of people (predominantly on corporate IT systems) running IE 6. That too, but I didn't think of that, and if you're still running IE 6 you get what you deserve... Ah Thanks guys - no matter to me then... Cafepress's display versions of the designs aren't png, they don't show the original artwork files they print with... they'd be too big. (and since I dont use ANY version of Explorer or Outlook - I wouldn't have noticed. Firefox are us) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: On 2/1/2010 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. They aren't completely compatible with versions of Internet Explorer prior to 7. And there are still a huge number of people (predominantly on corporate IT systems) running IE 6. That too, but I didn't think of that, and if you're still running IE 6 you get what you deserve... Ah Thanks guys - no matter to me then... Cafepress's display versions of the designs aren't png, they don't show the original artwork files they print with... they'd be too big. (and since I dont use ANY version of Explorer or Outlook - I wouldn't have noticed. Firefox are us) The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. I have IE 6, but it sits on my screen as an unused, unloved icon, as it should. Firefox has stolen my heart and the cops said my wallet to. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. I have IE 6, but it sits on my screen as an unused, unloved icon, as it should. Firefox has stolen my heart and the cops said my wallet to. Because I used to teach web design (not any more - yay!) I have some freeware called MultipleIE that lets me install several versions of Internet Explorer on one machine. If you design web pages or have a web site of your own it's an unfortunate fact of life that you need to know what it looks like on many different browsers. I draw the line at IE 6, though: My pages offer basic support for 6 but users of IE 5.5 and earlier are on their own! Here are the stats for my site during January 2010: IE 8 - 51,187 hits IE 7 - 49,173 IE 6 - 27,593 5.5 earlier - less than 1000 Firefox (all versions) - 64,755 Safari - 23,727 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 03:47:48PM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit: PNG has a lot of overhead, and are much larger than the equivalent Gif. Makes for a slow loading web page if you don't need them. Only if the PNG has been incompetently produced. Uncompressed PNG will give huge files, but compression is normal and works fine. A comperssed PNG will generally give a smaller file size than the equivalent GIF. (Plus more than 256 colours, transparency, and much more bit depth. PNG is a perfectly good image archive format if you don't already have a TIFF infrastructure.) -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On 2010-02-01 18:22, Mark Roberts wrote: The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. And the poor fools among us who have to develop presentations that are compatible with IE6 so those people can actually use our sites. :-) A, the joys of a virtual machine! -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-02-01 18:22, Mark Roberts wrote: The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. And the poor fools among us who have to develop presentations that are compatible with IE6 so those people can actually use our sites. :-) I guess I should count myself as amongst those! (Though I can't see why I'd put a smiley after that statement!) A, the joys of a virtual machine! Fortunately, we probably won't have to support IE6 for too much longer: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-2033-264.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10444574-265.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On 2010-02-01 20:40, Mark Roberts wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: And the poor fools among us who have to develop presentations that are compatible with IE6 so those people can actually use our sites. :-) I guess I should count myself as amongst those! (Though I can't see why I'd put a smiley after that statement!) It's one of those one must laugh to avoid crying things. Fortunately, we probably won't have to support IE6 for too much longer: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-2033-264.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10444574-265.html I'm hoping. But I'm not taking bets yet. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 6 Strangeness
On 4/10/08, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: This AM I isolated a blank sky area, applied the eyedropper, got the marching ants around it and pumped the blue a bit. After printing, I noticed a faint ghost like grid over the intire sky. Examined the screen image and, also, found it there. You are living your life on a holo-deck. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 6 Strangeness
Cotty, I'm drawing in air preparing to bust into laughter. Please give me the punch line before I rupture something. ]-))) Jack --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Elements 6 Strangeness To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 2:17 PM On 4/10/08, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: This AM I isolated a blank sky area, applied the eyedropper, got the marching ants around it and pumped the blue a bit. After printing, I noticed a faint ghost like grid over the intire sky. Examined the screen image and, also, found it there. You are living your life on a holo-deck. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 6 Strangeness
On 4/10/08, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, I'm drawing in air preparing to bust into laughter. Please give me the punch line before I rupture something. ]-))) Er, if the safety's off, that falling sky is gonna hurt? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 6 Strangeness
Humm...Actually, now that I re-read my orig. post, it was the Magic Wand I was using, not the Eyedropper. Are we all safe now? The bailout will be a swell sky prop. Jack --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Elements 6 Strangeness To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 2:47 PM On 4/10/08, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, I'm drawing in air preparing to bust into laughter. Please give me the punch line before I rupture something. ]-))) Er, if the safety's off, that falling sky is gonna hurt? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
Thanks!! Who knows if I would have ever found them? Jack --- Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just in case, the dodge, burn, and smudge tools are under one icon, the bottom one on the tool bar. Right click to select which one you want. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
Thanks, again. Walter. While I have your attention, BG let me ask; is a hot pixel show as dark or light? Is a dust speck dark or light? Have just noticed my first dark speck which I've duplicated several times just to be certain. I've applied dust removal, also several times, and can't seem to shake it Jack --- Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several of the tools are like that, with hidden menu items under the icon. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
Dust specks are shadows, they show dark but usually have a soft edge that spans several pixels. Hot pixels are pixels which are always lit, they show up bright. There are also dead pixels, which show up dark. G On Mar 2, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks, again. Walter. While I have your attention, BG let me ask; is a hot pixel show as dark or light? Is a dust speck dark or light? Have just noticed my first dark speck which I've duplicated several times just to be certain. I've applied dust removal, also several times, and can't seem to shake it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
Thanks, Godfrey. My spot fits your dust description, thankfully, and I'll be going for the squeeze bulb. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dust specks are shadows, they show dark but usually have a soft edge that spans several pixels. Hot pixels are pixels which are always lit, they show up bright. There are also dead pixels, which show up dark. G On Mar 2, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks, again. Walter. While I have your attention, BG let me ask; is a hot pixel show as dark or light? Is a dust speck dark or light? Have just noticed my first dark speck which I've duplicated several times just to be certain. I've applied dust removal, also several times, and can't seem to shake it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 Tools Missing
This one is a rather dark soft edged blob. I have a bulb and will give it a try. Appreciate all your help. Jack --- Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not totally sure but I believe a hot pixel will render white and a dead pixel will render black. As far as dust, most dust spots will cover more than one pixel and tend to show as oof blobs, sometimes quite large. That is where the blower bulbs are really handy. I have had to clean both my sensors with the blower several times, including the K10D. Fortunately I have been totally successful to date! No pixel problems with either camera. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Were they shot in DNG? Thanks, Jack --- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Not shot as DNG. Will try that next. Regards, Bob S. On 11/24/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were they shot in DNG? Thanks, Jack --- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Jack, On further checking, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will open DNG files. On average, the raw files are 10-12 meg. The DNG's are 15 megs. The jpg's are 4-5 megs. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Excellent! Thanks for the good news. Jack --- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, On further checking, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will open DNG files. On average, the raw files are 10-12 meg. The DNG's are 15 megs. The jpg's are 4-5 megs. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Sponsored Link Compare mortgage rates for today. Get up to 5 free quotes. www2.nextag.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Bringing up Preferences (From the little round button with the Arrow next to the drop-down menu in the Camera RAW Window) will tell you the version. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
I have been playing with the Lightroom beta and using the K10D DNG's converted from PEF to DNG using the Pentax Photobrowser. Lightroom is handling them jut fine. -- Bruce Thursday, November 23, 2006, 3:33:54 PM, you wrote: T Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which T were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be T readable, at least b Adobe products. T 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net T -- T Thibault Massart aka Thibouille T -- T *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
No, you'll have ot check Adobe's site to see if it's the latest version (Which currently is 3.6) -Adam Jack Davis wrote: And when it does, it will be obvious that it is or is not the latest version? Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bringing up Preferences (From the little round button with the Arrow next to the drop-down menu in the Camera RAW Window) will tell you the version. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
And when it does, it will be obvious that it is or is not the latest version? Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bringing up Preferences (From the little round button with the Arrow next to the drop-down menu in the Camera RAW Window) will tell you the version. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Appreciate your help! Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you'll have ot check Adobe's site to see if it's the latest version (Which currently is 3.6) -Adam Jack Davis wrote: And when it does, it will be obvious that it is or is not the latest version? Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bringing up Preferences (From the little round button with the Arrow next to the drop-down menu in the Camera RAW Window) will tell you the version. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: Adam, when you get a moment, please tell me how I would know if I'm running the latest ACR version of E5. Thanks, Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it will. You'll have to wait for K10D PEF support. Note that Elements 5 and CS2 use the same plugin for RAW support, so compatibility is the same (as long as you're running the latest ACR version, at least for formats other than DNG). _Adam Jack Davis wrote: Now back to my world. Will Elements 5 support K10D DNG RAW? I take it that you are saying yes in a techese. ;-) Thanks! Jack --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the GX10 with v0.2 firmware from Photokina produced DNG which were readiliy readable with Lightroom beta. SO yes, DNG should be readable, at least b Adobe products. 2006/11/23, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510k for $1,698/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0 and K10D
Jack, Off the bat, Photoshop Elements 5.0 will not open the RAW files I shot. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the few who have received their K10D, opened RAW in Elements 5? Jack Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Elements 5.0
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Elements 5.0 As of this morning, Tuesday, September 26, 2006, they have changed the estimated availability date to next Monday, October 2. Bill Bill, I ordered E5 on 9/20, also, with the understanding it would be available today. Your post has reminded me of the fact. I'll give it a try. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Bill Owens wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I pre-ordered PhotoShop Elements 5.0. It was showing as being available for download today, Sep 25. It apparently still not available, and calls to Adobe are met with either nothing or 20-30 minutes of so called music. Anybody else having problems with getting this program? The press release announcing availability went out this morning. I'd figure a delay of a few days before it could be downloaded. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Elements 5.0
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shell Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Elements 5.0 Thanks Bob, I finally got through and they more or less confirmed what you said. It should be available for download later this week Bill The press release announcing availability went out this morning. I'd figure a delay of a few days before it could be downloaded. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 5.0
Bill, I ordered E5 on 9/20, also, with the understanding it would be available today. Your post has reminded me of the fact. I'll give it a try. Jack --- Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I pre-ordered PhotoShop Elements 5.0. It was showing as being available for download today, Sep 25. It apparently still not available, and calls to Adobe are met with either nothing or 20-30 minutes of so called music. Anybody else having problems with getting this program? Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 4 and 16-bit
On 9/11/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a couple scans done awhile back that turned out to be 16-bit. As a result, I found the Elements 4 tool bar largely unusable. Is there a way around this short of converting to 8-bit? You've got it right. You either have to convert to 8 bit, or install CS2. Even in CS2, not all the functions are 16-bit ready, but most of the useful ones work (curves, sharpening, color correction, etc.). If you save off your 16-bit files somewhere, you can revisit them later when you have the capability, if you aren't happy with the 8-bit output from Elements. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 4 and 16-bit
Elements 4 only allows a subset of functions and filters in 16bit per channel mode. CS2 allows a much larger set, with only a subset restricted to 8bit mode. The strategy to go with if you want to continue using Elements is to do the large transformational edits (levels, curves, sharpening, colorspace, etc) in 16 bit, then convert to 8bit for final editing. Godfrey On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple scans done awhile back that turned out to be 16-bit. As a result, I found the Elements 4 tool bar largely unusable. Is there a way around this short of converting to 8-bit? Certainly must not be the case with CS2.(?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 4 and 16-bit
Thanks, Godfrey and Mat. Knowing I'm missing some (actually quite a few) color nuances has made me 'feel' deprived. May go CS2 (or whatever is the latest 'pro' version) with the advent of possessing the K10D. Will likely wait for such as dp-review prior to making a final K10D decision, but doubt I'll have the patience to wait for the next de-bugged version. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elements 4 only allows a subset of functions and filters in 16bit per channel mode. CS2 allows a much larger set, with only a subset restricted to 8bit mode. The strategy to go with if you want to continue using Elements is to do the large transformational edits (levels, curves, sharpening, colorspace, etc) in 16 bit, then convert to 8bit for final editing. Godfrey On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Had a couple scans done awhile back that turned out to be 16-bit. As a result, I found the Elements 4 tool bar largely unusable. Is there a way around this short of converting to 8-bit? Certainly must not be the case with CS2.(?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Elements 3 and Raw Question
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Gang. Looks like El 3 is now getting available in my area for around $100 Canadian or so. Any one have any Raw experience with it, either with PEF's(istD) or NEF's(D2h or D1). If i can save $750 or so by getting E3 instead of CS i'd be game for that. I've been using Elements 3 since early November, and one reason I upgraded from version 2 was the RAW support. I have an *istD. So, yes, I have the experience. I've been steadily learning how to use RAW since then, too. I think I'm almost competent now. I had lots of trouble getting the Organizer to work -- after a lengthy session with Tech Support I finally got it working, but so far I don't really use it. This isn't applicable at all to Mac users, and if you're only interested in the editing it's no big deal either. The editor is really cool, IMO. Of course I know you and I do different kinds of work and therefore have different needs, but anyway that's my answer to your question. I recommend it. ERNR
Re: Elements 3 and Raw Question
Elements 3 was available on Amazon for 69.95USD - when I bought it, it included a form for a 20USD rebate - don't know if that's still included. The 2.4 beta version of the raw converter is available for free download on Adobe's web site and is said to work with E3 as well as CS. While they're not shown in the list of cameras supported, the istD and DS are both supposed to be supported. Haven't tried the converter yet, as I just became a proud owner of a DS three days ago. The DS seems to be pretty intuitive and I haven't found anything not to like yet. Paul - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:45 AM Subject: Elements 3 and Raw Question Hi Gang. Looks like El 3 is now getting available in my area for around $100 Canadian or so. Any one have any Raw experience with it, either with PEF's(istD) or NEF's(D2h or D1). If i can save $750 or so by getting E3 instead of CS i'd be game for that. Dave
Re: Elements 3 and Raw Question
I use Photoshop CS but both PE3 and PSCS use the same Adobe Camera Raw converter plug-in. I'm currently using the v2.4 beta version as it supports the *istDS PEF files. Works like a charm, and Photoshop's basic editing/tool model works very well for me whether it's Elements or the full application. I'd say buy PE3, upgrade to ACR v2.4 beta. It has enough 16bit support to do most of what you need, and if it proves to be insufficient, you can then upgrade to the full Photoshop CS. Godfrey --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like El 3 is now getting available in my area for around $100 Canadian or so. Any one have any Raw experience with it, either with PEF's(istD) or NEF's(D2h or D1). If i can save $750 or so by getting E3 instead of CS i'd be game for that. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Elements 3 and Raw Question
I've been using Elements 3 since early November, and one reason I upgraded from version 2 was the RAW support. I have an *istD. So, yes, I have the experience. I've been steadily learning how to use RAW since then, too. I think I'm almost competent now. I had lots of trouble getting the Organizer to work -- after a lengthy session with Tech Support I finally got it working, but so far I don't really use it. This isn't applicable at all to Mac users, and if you're only interested in the editing it's no big deal either. The editor is really cool, IMO. Of course I know you and I do different kinds of work and therefore have different needs, but anyway that's my answer to your question. I recommend it. ERNR Thanks for the reply. Yours and an off list reply both say nice things about the program,so i'll look into it asap. I dont shoot much raw with the D2h,but would like to with the istD and this looks very promising now. Now the next quiry.Anyone using it on a Mini Mac.?$649 Canadian at Vistek.:-) Dave
Re: Elements
Hi! I am not talking to myself, really I don't :). I've been thinking recently (how unusual) and found a way to modify somewhat the sharpening procedure I posted. You can obtain quite unusual results by the following: 1. Instead of mild High Pass Filter apply it really strongly, say with filtering parameter 5 or may be even more 2. Then before you Overlay the result, you could apply Gaussian Blur with strong filtering parameter, say again 5 or may be even more. 3. Then you Overlay and Flatten. The result seems to be quite sharpened image with close to none increase in graininess. You can do your own experimenting. The bottom line is that this procedure is controlled by you, including all the steps and everything that is in between, unlike Unsharp Mask or other ready made filter, which you apply in a black box fashion, rather. --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625
RE: Elements
you crop your images to match the paper ratio? I crop (if needed ) to get the composition just right and print letterboxed if needed. I couldnt imagine doing it your way. EWWW! ( no offence ). JCO -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Elements Ok, I have started to play with this tool. The very first simple thing seems clumsier than using Picture Window. All I want to do is crop the image to a paper size ratio. In Picture Window all I do is select crop and pick the paper size (4X5, 8X10, 4X6) and then the crop rectangle keeps the rectangle proportions for me. I can adjust to my hearts content until I am ready to commit it and it will keep the crop rectangle to that ratio. In Paintshop Pro I had to memorize the ratio (.354, .) and then keep watching the bottom indicators as I dragged a side of the rectangle - far clumsier. In Elements it seems even clumsier. Tell me how to quickly and easily crop to a given ratio. Thanks, Bruce
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Yeah, I actually crop in the viewfinder to the image I want - probably comes from shooting weeny sized negs for too long. When I scan, I am planning on printing usually 4X5 or 8X10 from the 67. So all I need to do is crop a bit off them (full frame is what I want) to get them to the correct ratio. I personally find letterboxed things to look half baked unless expensive custom matting is involved. Much of my stuff goes in albums for clients or personal albums - the pages sleeves are sized to standard paper sizes. I think that letterboxing looks rather tacky in that scenario. Back to the question at hand...is there a simple way to crop to ratios in Elements or is it as lame on that front as it seems? Bruce Monday, January 13, 2003, 12:19:43 AM, you wrote: JCOC you crop your images to match the paper ratio? JCOC I crop (if needed ) to get the composition just right and print JCOC letterboxed if needed. I couldnt imagine JCOC doing it your way. EWWW! ( no offence ). JCOC JCO -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Elements Ok, I have started to play with this tool. The very first simple thing seems clumsier than using Picture Window. All I want to do is crop the image to a paper size ratio. In Picture Window all I do is select crop and pick the paper size (4X5, 8X10, 4X6) and then the crop rectangle keeps the rectangle proportions for me. I can adjust to my hearts content until I am ready to commit it and it will keep the crop rectangle to that ratio. In Paintshop Pro I had to memorize the ratio (.354, .) and then keep watching the bottom indicators as I dragged a side of the rectangle - far clumsier. In Elements it seems even clumsier. Tell me how to quickly and easily crop to a given ratio. Thanks, Bruce
RE: Elements
I personally find letterboxed things to look half baked unless expensive custom matting is involved. Much of my stuff goes in albums for clients or personal albums - the pages sleeves are sized to standard paper sizes. I think that letterboxing looks rather tacky in that scenario. First of all, you didnt say 6X7 only. I shoot both 35mm and 6X7. I print nearly all my 35mm stuff letterboxed on 8.5 X11 paper and it looks great. I dont see anything tacky about leaving the original image intact. If your fussy, you can aways trim the PAPER, not the image if the uneven borders bother you. They dont bother me in the least. cropping my compositionally correct images to fit the paper, (even a little in the case of 6X7 ) would bother me far more JCO
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Hi! Here's a little trick I've been taught by people who know :). Instead of using any of sharpening filters you can do something slightly different: 1. You're given the single layer image. 2. Duplicate that layer. That is Menu-Layer-Duplicate Layer. 3. On the copied layer (usually it is called Background Copy I think) press Ctrl-Shift-U or Menu-Adjust Color-Remove Color 4. Apply then Menu-Filter-Other-High Pass filter. The filter parameter would be the sharpening value. I usually choose value between 0.2 to 0.5. The bigger the value the worse is the result with respect to grain popping out, etc. The smaller the parameter - the smoother the outcome. It is often useful when choosing the value to take a look on specific part of the image under some magnification. For my 3000x2000 scans I use 100% or 200%. 5. On layers tab choose Overlay instead of Normal. 6. Flatten the image. You're done. Advantages of this procedure are: 1. Once you've applied the high pass filter before you merge the layers, you could take a Blur Tool brush and blur out these parts that you don't want to sharpen. It takes some effort but sometimes it is useful. 2. Usually when any of the sharpening filters is applied some undesired results come out. As I said, graininess becomes more apparent. Also usually sharpening filters are not subtle if you will. Here you have very fine control and sometimes it is quite difficult to tell whether any sharpening was applied all together. 3. This procedure can be applied several times with cumulative effect far outweighing the undesirable side effects. If you were to apply unsharp mask twice on the same image in my experience the result is usually quite ugly. Your mileage can obviously vary :). --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625 ===8==Original message text=== BD Mike, BD Thank you. A much more sensible reply to the question rather than BD questioning my intent. Makes sense and works pretty well on that BD front. BD Using the sharpening filter - are there some recommended starting BD values for the unsharp mask for amount, radius and threshold? BD Bruce BD Monday, January 13, 2003, 5:57:51 AM, you wrote: In Elements it seems even clumsier. Tell me how to quickly and easily crop to a given ratio. MJ Bruce, MJ Just click on the crop tool, and you'll notice width and height boxes at MJ the top of the frame. Just fill in those values and the aspect ratio of the MJ crop will stay constant. MJ --Mike ===8===End of original message text===
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Boris, Thanks for the tip. This is a post that I will archive and try out. Bruce Monday, January 13, 2003, 8:54:55 AM, you wrote: BL Hi! BL Here's a little trick I've been taught by people who know :). BL Instead of using any of sharpening filters you can do something BL slightly different: BL 1. You're given the single layer image. BL 2. Duplicate that layer. That is Menu-Layer-Duplicate Layer. BL 3. On the copied layer (usually it is called Background Copy I think) BL press Ctrl-Shift-U or Menu-Adjust Color-Remove Color 4. Apply then Menu-Filter-Other-High Pass filter. The filter BL parameter would be the sharpening value. I usually choose value BL between 0.2 to 0.5. The bigger the value the worse is the result with BL respect to grain popping out, etc. The smaller the parameter - the BL smoother the outcome. It is often useful when choosing BL the value to take a look on specific part of the image under some BL magnification. For my 3000x2000 scans I use 100% or 200%. BL 5. On layers tab choose Overlay instead of Normal. BL 6. Flatten the image. BL You're done. BL Advantages of this procedure are: BL 1. Once you've applied the high pass filter before you merge the BL layers, you could take a Blur Tool brush and blur out these parts BL that you don't want to sharpen. It takes some effort but sometimes BL it is useful. BL 2. Usually when any of the sharpening filters is applied some BL undesired results come out. As I said, graininess becomes more BL apparent. Also usually sharpening filters are not subtle if you will. BL Here you have very fine control and sometimes it is quite difficult to BL tell whether any sharpening was applied all together. BL 3. This procedure can be applied several times with cumulative effect BL far outweighing the undesirable side effects. If you were to apply BL unsharp mask twice on the same image in my experience the result is BL usually quite ugly. BL Your mileage can obviously vary :). BL --- BL Boris Liberman BL www.geocities.com/dunno57 BL www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625 BL ===8==Original message text=== BD Mike, BD Thank you. A much more sensible reply to the question rather than BD questioning my intent. Makes sense and works pretty well on that BD front. BD Using the sharpening filter - are there some recommended starting BD values for the unsharp mask for amount, radius and threshold? BD Bruce BD Monday, January 13, 2003, 5:57:51 AM, you wrote: In Elements it seems even clumsier. Tell me how to quickly and easily crop to a given ratio. MJ Bruce, MJ Just click on the crop tool, and you'll notice width and height boxes at MJ the top of the frame. Just fill in those values and the aspect ratio of the MJ crop will stay constant. MJ --Mike BL ===8===End of original message text===
Re: Elements
You've gotta change the setting right next to the width and height boxes to fixed aspect ratio. Then, you can fill in the values. But where do you go from there? The image remains unchanged and the subsequent crops aren't fixed to that aspect ratio. Huh? Yes they are. I have Elements v.1.0, and on my program, you click on the crop tool (third down on the left in the toolbox, the overlapping L brackets) and in the bar at the top, boxes for width, height, and resolution appear. If you fill in 6 for width and 4 for height, for example, the crop tool automatically maintains a 4x6 ratio however large or small you make it and wherever you place it on the image. Furthermore, the next time you hit the crop tool, the same values will be remembered unless you click the clear command next to them. You can make the crop box larger, smaller, move it around, or rotate it with simple mouse clicks. --Mike
Re: Elements
Mike, I guess I can give you a preliminary report on comparing Elements to Picture Window Pro. I haven't done everything (that I do) yet, but at least for the simple basics they seem to compare quite favorably. The differences are minor - Cropping is still a minor bit easier with Picture Window but not by much. Elements seems slightly better at resizing down - at least sharpening wasn't as needed after. Obviously the interfaces are different. Can't say one is clearly superior to the other, just different. I suspect that once you get past the simpler things (crop, sizing, sharpening, color correction, cloning, etc) then some more differences might start showing up. If/when I run into them, I'll make more comments. Anyway, Elements is not as bad as I remember once giving it another open minded try. Bruce Monday, January 13, 2003, 3:05:52 PM, you wrote: You've gotta change the setting right next to the width and height boxes to fixed aspect ratio. Then, you can fill in the values. But where do you go from there? The image remains unchanged and the subsequent crops aren't fixed to that aspect ratio. MJ Huh? Yes they are. I have Elements v.1.0, and on my program, you click on MJ the crop tool (third down on the left in the toolbox, the overlapping L MJ brackets) and in the bar at the top, boxes for width, height, and resolution MJ appear. If you fill in 6 for width and 4 for height, for example, the MJ crop tool automatically maintains a 4x6 ratio however large or small you MJ make it and wherever you place it on the image. Furthermore, the next time MJ you hit the crop tool, the same values will be remembered unless you click MJ the clear command next to them. MJ You can make the crop box larger, smaller, move it around, or rotate it with MJ simple mouse clicks. MJ --Mike
Re: Elements
I don't know that there is any 'rule of thumb', and radius depends on the image resolution. I would start here: http://www.ledet.com/margulis/Sharpen.pdf and continue on to here: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~binaryfx/PSTV_links.html#S Maris Mike Johnston wrote: are there some recommended starting values for the unsharp mask for amount, radius and threshold? Darned if I know. I think there are actually plug-ins that help calculate this for you. Being an incorrigible empiricist, I just try different things and then look at the results. g --Mike
: Re: Elements
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, Just click on the crop tool, and you'll notice width and height boxes at the top of the frame. Just fill in those values and the aspect ratio of the crop will stay constant. You've gotta change the setting right next to the width and height boxes to fixed aspect ratio. Then, you can fill in the values. But where do you go from there? The image remains unchanged and the subsequent crops aren't fixed to that aspect ratio. Mark I'm assuming Elements crop tool is the same as 6.0's crop tool. you click on the crop tool the dialog box will appear with hight, width, PPI, and inches/cm set your height, width, for the image size that you want set the ppi the same as the image that you are working on put your cursor inside the image, it should change to the crop tool icon start at one corner, hold down the left mouse button and drag a bounding box in the aspect ratio you set up will appear. by dragging a corner you can make the crop more or less tight by left clicking and holding with the cursor inside the box you can move the crop box without changing the size. when you get it in the position you want it with the cursor inside the box hit enter it will crop to the box outline and your image will be the size and PPI you specified, the image will then appear as cropped. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: Elements
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Why not? Didn't Bill stated more than once that the monthly theme has to be interpreted by the photographer personal vision? :-) Or are you afraid you won't be able to reassemble the lens? Oh, I was thinking about smashing it into the ground. Reassembly wasn't something that concerned me :-) We'll miss your submission. Oh, no you wouldn't. Really nothing around that can - barely - fit the theme? While driving home last night I remembered about a picture that could make the theme, so I submitted it when I arrived... Thanks for your concern :-) j - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Elements
Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I was thinking about smashing it into the ground. Reassembly wasn't something that concerned me :-) You can still smash it for an open month... We'll miss your submission. Oh, no you wouldn't. I'm not very good in telling lies... :^) Really nothing around that can - barely - fit the theme? While driving home last night I remembered about a picture that could make the theme, so I submitted it when I arrived... Thanks for your concern :-) You are welcome. I was in the same situation last night... :) Ciao! Gianfranco - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
