Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax????????
The 645D viewfinder is brilliant. DagT Den 2. juli 2011 kl. 02.44 skrev Steven Desjardins: The 645 did have an awesome viewfinder, however. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: On 7/1/11 5:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Good as my LX, Mark? Dunno. I've never owned an LX. But the image quality of the 25-megapixel Sony is better than my old Pentax 645. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ricoh has a great big honking ultra-boring photocopier/printer/office-widget business. Much like Canon I guess. Only in the case of Ricoh, it's pretty obvious that the office-products is at the center and the camera thing is a bag on the side. I think adding Pentax makes all sorts of sense for them. Also there are some plausible synergies between R and P. - Willingness to do quirky non-mainstream things - Better-than-average ergonomics -T On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: The 645D viewfinder is brilliant. DagT Den 2. juli 2011 kl. 02.44 skrev Steven Desjardins: The 645 did have an awesome viewfinder, however. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: On 7/1/11 5:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Good as my LX, Mark? Dunno. I've never owned an LX. But the image quality of the 25-megapixel Sony is better than my old Pentax 645. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Somebody here some years ago claimed that a certain brand of copier had a Pentax 50mm inside as the taking lens. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Ricoh has a great big honking ultra-boring photocopier/printer/office-widget business. Much like Canon I guess. Only in the case of Ricoh, it's pretty obvious that the office-products is at the center and the camera thing is a bag on the side. I think adding Pentax makes all sorts of sense for them. Also there are some plausible synergies between R and P. - Willingness to do quirky non-mainstream things - Better-than-average ergonomics -T On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: The 645D viewfinder is brilliant. DagT Den 2. juli 2011 kl. 02.44 skrev Steven Desjardins: The 645 did have an awesome viewfinder, however. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: On 7/1/11 5:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Good as my LX, Mark? Dunno. I've never owned an LX. But the image quality of the 25-megapixel Sony is better than my old Pentax 645. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 08:35 -0700, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Ricoh has a great big honking ultra-boring photocopier/printer/office-widget business. Much like Canon I guess. Only in the case of Ricoh, it's pretty obvious that the office-products is at the center and the camera thing is a bag on the side. I think adding Pentax makes all sorts of sense for them. Also there are some plausible synergies between R and P. - Willingness to do quirky non-mainstream things - Better-than-average ergonomics In the Australian context, I'm wondering what this all means for the Pentax brand in Australia. Pentax doesn't have a branch in Oz and C R Kennedy has been the local distributor for over 30 years. Ricoh/Tasco does have a local branch so I'm wondering if we're about to see a change in the distribution arrangements and whether that might mean a better presence of Pentax with major retailers. For example, I was at a local mall yesterday and looking in the window of a Kodak Express store (a very 'consumer orientated' operation) and there among the Nikons and Canons was a Ricoh GXR in the window. I've never seen any Pentax in that store. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/. -T On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: The 645D viewfinder is brilliant. DagT Den 2. juli 2011 kl. 02.44 skrev Steven Desjardins: The 645 did have an awesome viewfinder, however. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: On 7/1/11 5:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Good as my LX, Mark? Dunno. I've never owned an LX. But the image quality of the 25-megapixel Sony is better than my old Pentax 645. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow If Godfrey won't go to Pentax -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thursday, June 30, 2011, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow If Godfrey won't go to Pentax LOL!! -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 01:35:02AM -0400, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow I assume this is good news for Pentax users? Ricoh probably care a bit more about cameras than Hoya do, and they seem to put a high value on the current products. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Seems to be a done deal by the Hoya press release. I just hope it's not bad news for Ricoh owners. That would be an annoyance. On Thursday, June 30, 2011, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Can anyone tell for certain if Hoya is keeping Pentax's medical division for themselves? I'm pretty sure that's a big source of Pentax's revenue, and it would really suck if they lost it. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 12:23 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax Seems to be a done deal by the Hoya press release. I just hope it's not bad news for Ricoh owners. That would be an annoyance. On Thursday, June 30, 2011, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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We're all reading the same info so I suspect anything unclear is unclear to all. It looks like Hoya is taking the medical stuff and Ricoh is taking the camera stuff. Details will likely emerge as we approach the scheduled takeover/conversion date in October. On Friday, July 1, 2011, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Can anyone tell for certain if Hoya is keeping Pentax's medical division for themselves? I'm pretty sure that's a big source of Pentax's revenue, and it would really suck if they lost it. John -- http://www.jacelio.com -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 12:23 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax Seems to be a done deal by the Hoya press release. I just hope it's not bad news for Ricoh owners. That would be an annoyance. On Thursday, June 30, 2011, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Does this mean the K-r K-5 would look like this...? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5163816994/ :-) On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ha, Godfrey is going to be a Pentaxian again :-) http://www.ricoh.com/release/2011/0701_1.html On completion of the Acquisition, Ricoh will begin to use the PENTAX brand name for some of its digital camera products, DagT Does this mean the K-r K-5 would look like this...? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5163816994/ :-) On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And through no effort on my part. :-) On Friday, July 1, 2011, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: Ha, Godfrey is going to be a Pentaxian again :-) http://www.ricoh.com/release/2011/0701_1.html On completion of the Acquisition, Ricoh will begin to use the PENTAX brand name for some of its digital camera products, DagT Does this mean the K-r K-5 would look like this...? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5163816994/ :-) On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Celio wrote: Can anyone tell for certain if Hoya is keeping Pentax's medical division for themselves? Damn - there go the Pentax endoscope jokes... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I hope it's true. That would be a plus. Ricoh is better at mass marketing than Hoya, and the Pentax and Ricoh equipment fit together nicely as a complete line. Paul On Jul 1, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 1, 2011, at 2:45 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? Hoya did keep Pentax going. They even managed to get the 645 to market. Ricoh and Pentax are a good match. I assume Ricoh made Hoya an offer they couldn't refuse. The sky isn't falling. Paul On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 1, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Seems to be a done deal by the Hoya press release. I just hope it's not bad news for Ricoh owners. That would be an annoyance. It would be a much bigger annoyance in these parts if it were bad news for Pentax owners, but I assume it will be good news for all concerned. Paul On Thursday, June 30, 2011, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Does this mean the K-r K-5 would look like this...? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5163816994/ Heh :) I'm assuming all new lenses are going to get stuck on the AF drive too... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, Godfrey has made us aware of Ricoh's innovative approach to mirrorless systems and Pentax has optical expertise. And, at least from my POV, Pentax has a bigger reputation. How big is Ricoh as a company? It will definitely focus Pentax on photography as long as the combination has enough business to keep going. I fully expect Godfrey to tape a little Pentax on that modular camera of his. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote: Does this mean the K-r K-5 would look like this...? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5163816994/ Heh :) I'm assuming all new lenses are going to get stuck on the AF drive too... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So will the new badge be Rictax or Pentoh? Sent from my iPod On 2011-07-01, at 1:35 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It does make me wonder about Pentax's EVIL/MILC/Whatever plans. I wonder if they will continue with the APS-C K mount version or combine efforts with and produce a K mount module. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: So will the new badge be Rictax or Pentoh? Sent from my iPod On 2011-07-01, at 1:35 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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As long as he doesn't start a new religion and proclaims himself its supreme prophet, I am fine with that... On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If Godfrey won't go to Pentax -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ricoh did get out of the SLR business during the AF era (to some extent, they actually continued to sell MF film SLR's until recently, but the body was a Cosina) although they did have a longtime presence in the high-end compact side of things with their GR compacts (which are simply awesome). But they're been increasingly involved in selling high-end compacts and mirrorless systems. Buying Pentax gives them back an SLR system in a mount they know intimately and gives them access to the manufacturing capacity and sales structure they've lacked outside asia. This isn't a repeat of Konica-Minolta. Ricoh's only buying the camera division where Konica wanted only the business imaging side of Minolta and also had been trying to get rid of their own Camera division for decades (despite it being both a major film producer and a producer of rather innovative cameras including the only truly modern M mount body in the Hexar RF). -Adam On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:45 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It probably means both that we'll see a Q-mount module for the GXR and that we won't see a Pentax APS-C mirrorless camera. -Adam On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It does make me wonder about Pentax's EVIL/MILC/Whatever plans. I wonder if they will continue with the APS-C K mount version or combine efforts with and produce a K mount module. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: So will the new badge be Rictax or Pentoh? Sent from my iPod On 2011-07-01, at 1:35 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Seems to be a done deal by the Hoya press release. I just hope it's not bad news for Ricoh owners. That would be an annoyance. It would be a much bigger annoyance in these parts if it were bad news for Pentax owners, but I assume it will be good news for all concerned. I do hope that it is a plus for all concerned. :-) Ricoh's a pretty good sized company. They have a lot of camera and lens expertise, just not in the DSLR or Medium Format Digital space. My impression is that they've been doing pretty well and have not been at risk, but I haven't been looking at that. It's Pentax that's had the financial problems and has now been bought twice. So I think we have to consider this from the Ricoh perspective, since it is Ricoh buying the Pentax brand and technology from Hoya, not Pentax driving the deal. Pentax is essentially being split up, the camera portion of the company separated from the medical portion. I feel the mainstream SLR domain is coming to a close and the mirrorless digital camera on the rise. In the mirrorless domain, Ricoh has been very innovative with the GXR system. The Camera Module A12 with Leica M mount is just about ready to ship for the GXR system: it would be extremely easy to provide adaptation for K-mount (it already exists through third party adapters!) and not too much more daunting to build a dedicated K-mount version, with more features dedicated to the Pentax K mount lens specifics. And creating dedicated A12 camera modules with integrated lenses like the DA21, FA43, DA40, DA70 (all great, compact optics) would be another way to expand Ricoh's GXR system more swiftly than for them to develop the optics from scratch. It will be very interesting to see where this goes. I do hope it's a positive for everyone ... including the medical products market! -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh Boris, I already am the prophet for a new religion. Have I never spoken here of the Church of the Magnetic Monopole? CMM's been around for twenty years or more, I've been evangelizing for years ... !! ]'-) LOL! or is that Mwah Hah Hah! ]:-) On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: As long as he doesn't start a new religion and proclaims himself its supreme prophet, I am fine with that... On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If Godfrey won't go to Pentax -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Suaveh... 2011/7/1 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm voting for Pentho, since who would want a new tax on their ric? On 7/1/2011 7:44 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: So will the new badge be Rictax or Pentoh? Sent from my iPod On 2011-07-01, at 1:35 AM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maybe we'll see a K mount module for the GRX, and won't that look silly... On 7/1/2011 9:58 AM, Adam Maas wrote: It probably means both that we'll see a Q-mount module for the GXR and that we won't see a Pentax APS-C mirrorless camera. -Adam On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote: It does make me wonder about Pentax's EVIL/MILC/Whatever plans. I wonder if they will continue with the APS-C K mount version or combine efforts with and produce a K mount module. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: So will the new badge be Rictax or Pentoh? Sent from my iPod On 2011-07-01, at 1:35 AM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 01/07/2011 12:45 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? Hoya originally only wanted the medical imaging division of Pentax, but took the whole company in an all or nothing deal, IIRC. They have gone on to turn the camera division into a profitable entity, which it certainly wasn't prior to the buy out. Personally, I think Ricoh is a better fit from a photographers POV than Hoya for a camera making company. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow Dammit, I'm going to have to snip off that infernal extra pin from all my new lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It would be an annoyance if it turns out to be bad news for Pentax owners as well. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Seems to be a done deal by the Hoya press release. I just hope it's not bad news for Ricoh owners. That would be an annoyance. On Thursday, June 30, 2011, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. ?I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. ?Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3736 - Release Date: 06/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: John Celio Can anyone tell for certain if Hoya is keeping Pentax's medical division for themselves? I'm pretty sure that's a big source of Pentax's revenue, and it would really suck if they lost it. John Hoya is almost certainly keeping the medical division. They originally bought Pentax to get the medical division. If you go back to the period before the Hoya-Pentax deal was finalized, you'll find one of the fears of Pentax users had back then was that Hoya would keep Pentax for a couple of years and then dispose of the camera company. And that the Pentax camera division would be weaker because of the loss of revenue from the medical division. Maybe the 645D will put the camera division in better position than was feared ... or maybe not. Deja Vu all over again. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3736 - Release Date: 06/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I agree with Bill. Not only is ricoh a better fit, Ricoh is a general tech company with money to burn. On photography: They also tend to concentrate on niche markets and come with original solutions. This is very Pentax imo. And their photo business is very complimentary with Pentax products.William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com a écrit :On 01/07/2011 12:45 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? Hoya originally only wanted the medical imaging division of Pentax, but took the whole company in an all or nothing deal, IIRC. They have gone on to turn the camera division into a profitable entity, which it certainly wasn't prior to the buy out. Personally, I think Ricoh is a better fit from a photographers POV than Hoya for a camera making company. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1 July 2011 12:04, Thib pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bill. Not only is ricoh a better fit, Ricoh is a general tech company with money to burn. Unlike Pentaxians, who hold on to their pesos like they're a zombie antidote. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 01/07/2011 10:33 AM, Miserere wrote: On 1 July 2011 12:04, Thibpentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bill. Not only is ricoh a better fit, Ricoh is a general tech company with money to burn. Unlike Pentaxians, who hold on to their pesos like they're a zombie antidote. Well, Hoya certainly has been charging through the nose for what should be good products, except for the dodgy quality control, and we have been buying everything they make. I suspect our willingness to help them make the division profitable by allowing them to violate us in a dropped the bar of soap on the shower floor sort of way is what has made the division attractive to Ricoh. Hopefully, we will be rewarded for our patience with the humiliation. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 09:58:28AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: It probably means both that we'll see a Q-mount module for the GXR and that we won't see a Pentax APS-C mirrorless camera. -Adam I wouldn't expect to see any short-term changes to Pentax's plans. If, as has been assumed, the mirrorless camera was planned for introduction later this year I think that will still take place. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/1/2011 1:07 PM, William Robb wrote: On 01/07/2011 10:33 AM, Miserere wrote: On 1 July 2011 12:04, Thibpentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bill. Not only is ricoh a better fit, Ricoh is a general tech company with money to burn. Unlike Pentaxians, who hold on to their pesos like they're a zombie antidote. Well, Hoya certainly has been charging through the nose for what should be good products, except for the dodgy quality control, and we have been buying everything they make. I suspect our willingness to help them make the division profitable by allowing them to violate us in a dropped the bar of soap on the shower floor sort of way is what has made the division attractive to Ricoh. Hopefully, we will be rewarded for our patience with the humiliation. Oh, I fully expect to be rewarded with humiliation -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 01/07/2011 11:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Oh, I fully expect to be rewarded with humiliation You haven't bought much gear lately, have you -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Unlike Pentaxians, who hold on to their pesos like they're a zombie antidote. Must eat brains . . . On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 July 2011 12:04, Thib pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bill. Not only is ricoh a better fit, Ricoh is a general tech company with money to burn. Unlike Pentaxians, who hold on to their pesos like they're a zombie antidote. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah, Bill, you silver tongued devil. I'll never drop another bar of soap without thinking of you. OTOH . . . On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:07 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/07/2011 10:33 AM, Miserere wrote: On 1 July 2011 12:04, Thibpentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bill. Not only is ricoh a better fit, Ricoh is a general tech company with money to burn. Unlike Pentaxians, who hold on to their pesos like they're a zombie antidote. Well, Hoya certainly has been charging through the nose for what should be good products, except for the dodgy quality control, and we have been buying everything they make. I suspect our willingness to help them make the division profitable by allowing them to violate us in a dropped the bar of soap on the shower floor sort of way is what has made the division attractive to Ricoh. Hopefully, we will be rewarded for our patience with the humiliation. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 1, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Seems to be a done deal by the Hoya press release. I just hope it's not bad news for Ricoh owners. That would be an annoyance. It would be a much bigger annoyance in these parts if it were bad news for Pentax owners, but I assume it will be good news for all concerned. I do hope that it is a plus for all concerned. :-) snip It will be very interesting to see where this goes. I do hope it's a positive for everyone ... including the medical products market! And if it isn't, I can pull a Godfrey and switch to Nikon, or whatever system catches my fancy. My K-5 has good enough performance for most of my photographic needs to last me quite a few more years. By the time it wears out there will be plenty of mirrorless systems with better performance, and adapters, possibly even ones with screwdrive autofocus, so that I can continue to use my lenses. There are some distinct physical advantages to a mirrorless system, primarily the shorter registration distance allowing sharper, fast wide glass. I am annoyed that I don't have an f/1.4 standard. Who knows, maybe in a couple of years I'll have several mirrorless systems in a variety of sensor sizes depending upon how much depth of field I want for a particular field of view. When I want a lot of DoF, I'll use the 4/3 sensor, when I want shallow, I'll use the 24x36. In the meantime, at least Ricoh has some history with K-mount lenses. I think I actually have a Ricoh body buried in my gear someplace. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow! Wow! Wow! Sure hope this works out for everyone! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 12:35 AM Subject: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax On 1 July 2011 12:04, Thib pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bill. Not only is ricoh a better fit, Ricoh is a general tech company with money to burn. Unlike Pentaxians, who hold on to their pesos like they're a zombie antidote. I don't think my husband would agree with this :-) Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm somewhat hopeful about this. The traditional digital market (How's that, huh) of PS and DSLRs is being eroded in two ways: cellphones will increasingly replace the PS and mirrorless will cut into the DSLRs. Ricoh and Pentax could make a pretty good mirrorless body with Pentax optics. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/1/2011 1:20 PM, William Robb wrote: On 01/07/2011 11:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Oh, I fully expect to be rewarded with humiliation You haven't bought much gear lately, have you Actually not, I have budgetary issues, I bought the K20D almost two years ago, my last major purchase. The K20D is mostly very good, but it's exposure system accuracy still makes me wish for the LX -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It will be very interesting to see where this goes. I do hope it's a positive for everyone ... including the medical products market! And if it isn't, I can pull a Godfrey and switch to Nikon, or whatever system catches my fancy. ... :-) My primary and preferred 35mm system cameras for most of the time from 1968 to 2001 were Nikon SLRs and Leica RFs. While I've owned and used successfully a lot of other SLR system cameras, if I felt I needed to move to another SLR system again it would be to Nikon and the D700 body at present. I know their lenses are up to the task. But lately I'm thinking mobility more and more, and wanting smaller, less intrusive cameras and lens kits. That's what got me going for the Ricoh GXR. Once the M-lens module ships, I'll likely be working with two or three M-bayonet lenses most of the time and will be in the market for a Leica M again at some point down the line. I'm not ready to dispense with SLRs entirely yet, but I see the time is coming as the mirrorless world ramps up in responsiveness. The quality is already there. And, like Cotty and others, I can't see any TTL system being the same thing as a coupled optical rangefinder system: they are just different beasts. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Anyone seen a decent electronically produced image in a mirrorless viewfinder? Jack --- On Fri, 7/1/11, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 11:05 AM I'm somewhat hopeful about this. The traditional digital market (How's that, huh) of PS and DSLRs is being eroded in two ways: cellphones will increasingly replace the PS and mirrorless will cut into the DSLRs. Ricoh and Pentax could make a pretty good mirrorless body with Pentax optics. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This question is just too subjective. I'm happy with the Olympus VF-2, but it's still different from an optical finder. Evidently, the hybrid in the X100 won't easily adapt to interchangeable lenses. For me, the smaller size is worth the use of EVF. -Original Message- From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:39:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax Anyone seen a decent electronically produced image in a mirrorless viewfinder? Jack --- On Fri, 7/1/11, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 11:05 AM I'm somewhat hopeful about this. The traditional digital market (How's that, huh) of PS and DSLRs is being eroded in two ways: cellphones will increasingly replace the PS and mirrorless will cut into the DSLRs. Ricoh and Pentax could make a pretty good mirrorless body with Pentax optics. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 01/07/2011 12:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone seen a decent electronically produced image in a mirrorless viewfinder? Nope, they still Hoover. I was so attracted to that little Fuji rangefinder until I turned on the electronic viewfinder. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 01/07/2011 12:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone seen a decent electronically produced image in a mirrorless viewfinder? Nope, they still Hoover. I was so attracted to that little Fuji rangefinder until I turned on the electronic viewfinder. William Robb EVFs will get better as long as early adopters continue to fund the research. It's no different to anything else, like sensors and so on, that were crap to start with, but have continued to improve. EVFs however have a long way to go in my opinion until they're as good as an optical coupled rangefinder, or even a reflex ground glass image. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: EVFs will get better as long as early adopters continue to fund the research. It's no different to anything else, like sensors and so on, that were crap to start with, but have continued to improve. EVFs however have a long way to go in my opinion until they're as good as an optical coupled rangefinder, or even a reflex ground glass image. As good as is a difficult value judgement: EVFs are very different from either ground glass reflex optical finders or optical tunnel finders, with very different strengths and weaknesses. The latest EVF generation with high pixel density, fast refresh speeds and good dynamic range (the Panasonic Gx, GHx with built-in, and the add-on Olympus VF-2 and the Ricoh GXR VF-2 finders) to my eye produce significantly better focusing and viewing quality than any of the others on the market (X100 included). I like them a lot more than the lower-end SLR optical reflex finders as well, and for most but not all shooting situations they are comparable in quality to the pro-grade SLR finders. (Sequence shooting and tracking with long lenses ... nothing beats a pro-grade SLR viewfinder for that yet.) But in many situations I simply prefer an optical tunnel viewfinder and that's how I have the GXR set up most of the time: LCD for when I need to see and lock in a difficult focus point, optical finder for when I'm focusing by zone or center spot AF. The EVF is on the camera now and then when having a 100% coverage, TTL, eye level viewfinder is essential to getting the job done best. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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William Robb wrote: On 01/07/2011 12:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone seen a decent electronically produced image in a mirrorless viewfinder? Nope, they still Hoover. I was so attracted to that little Fuji rangefinder until I turned on the electronic viewfinder. Know what's *really* good? The viewfinder of my Sony A850 ;-) Sorry, gotta go to the airport now! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good as my LX, Mark? Jack --- On Fri, 7/1/11, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 1:30 PM William Robb wrote: On 01/07/2011 12:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone seen a decent electronically produced image in a mirrorless viewfinder? Nope, they still Hoover. I was so attracted to that little Fuji rangefinder until I turned on the electronic viewfinder. Know what's *really* good? The viewfinder of my Sony A850 ;-) Sorry, gotta go to the airport now! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/1/2011 4:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: William Robb wrote: On 01/07/2011 12:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone seen a decent electronically produced image in a mirrorless viewfinder? Nope, they still Hoover. I was so attracted to that little Fuji rangefinder until I turned on the electronic viewfinder. Know what's *really* good? The viewfinder of my Sony A850 ;-) Sorry, gotta go to the airport now! Yea, just throw a grenade and run out of the room. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2011-07-01 05:27 , Steven Desjardins wrote: How big is Ricoh as a company? $25 billion revenue last fiscal year -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hoya is keeping the Pentax Medical Division: they feel it really delivers in the end. G. Back to lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah, but now they'll be the butt of all these jokes. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hoya is keeping the Pentax Medical Division: they feel it really delivers in the end. G. Back to lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 1, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Morris Galloway wrote: Hoya is keeping the Pentax Medical Division: they feel it really delivers in the end. Mark! G. Back to lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I went over to Ned's blog to see if he had anything to say about the acquisition. Until a couple of hours ago he didn't but he had posted a bunch of photos taken with the DA35 macro. The bastard. That lens has been on my wishlist for a couple of years now, ever since I started going on photo walks with my DA40 and wished I could focus it closer. I'm not so fond of the pictures of his dog's nose, but the photo of a 50 year old bottle of cognac certainly shows what the lens can do. It's tough having LBA and an empty bank account. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2 July 2011 04:30, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: William Robb wrote: On 01/07/2011 12:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone seen a decent electronically produced image in a mirrorless viewfinder? Nope, they still Hoover. I was so attracted to that little Fuji rangefinder until I turned on the electronic viewfinder. Know what's *really* good? The viewfinder of my Sony A850 ;-) The D700's is pretty special too -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/1/11 5:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Good as my LX, Mark? Dunno. I've never owned an LX. But the image quality of the 25-megapixel Sony is better than my old Pentax 645. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 01/07/2011 5:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Until a couple of hours ago he didn't but he had posted a bunch of photos taken with the DA35 macro. The bastard. That lens has been on my wishlist for a couple of years now Yeah, it's a nice lens. I like the pictures from the 31 more, but I like carrying the 35 more, and it is very sharp. I've been using the 43 a lot. It's pretty special on the K5. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The 35 macro is in my bh wish list as well. Cheers. Christine On Jul 1, 2011, at 7:11 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/07/2011 5:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Until a couple of hours ago he didn't but he had posted a bunch of photos taken with the DA35 macro. The bastard. That lens has been on my wishlist for a couple of years now Yeah, it's a nice lens. I like the pictures from the 31 more, but I like carrying the 35 more, and it is very sharp. I've been using the 43 a lot. It's pretty special on the K5. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The 645 did have an awesome viewfinder, however. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: On 7/1/11 5:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Good as my LX, Mark? Dunno. I've never owned an LX. But the image quality of the 25-megapixel Sony is better than my old Pentax 645. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've never owned an A850 or 645, but have absolutely no doubt that would be true. I'd suspect that any 12MP or larger sensor would approach or exceed the image quality of the 645. Jack --- On Fri, 7/1/11, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 5:03 PM On 7/1/11 5:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Good as my LX, Mark? Dunno. I've never owned an LX. But the image quality of the 25-megapixel Sony is better than my old Pentax 645. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It all depends on what you do with that negative. Printing it from a glass carrier with a super enlarger lens or scanning it on an Imacon might yield something better than a 12 or even a 20 megapixel camera can produce. But very few are able to generate that kind of output. My K-5 pics are far better than those I shot with the 6x7 and scanned on my flatbed. But some of the 16x24 bw prints I made with 6x7 negs and a Schneider Compuraon 105/56 enlarger lens are superior to anything I've been able to produce digitally. They were also a hell of a lot more work. Paul On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I've never owned an A850 or 645, but have absolutely no doubt that would be true. I'd suspect that any 12MP or larger sensor would approach or exceed the image quality of the 645. Jack --- On Fri, 7/1/11, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 5:03 PM On 7/1/11 5:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Good as my LX, Mark? Dunno. I've never owned an LX. But the image quality of the 25-megapixel Sony is better than my old Pentax 645. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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