Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-16 Thread mike wilson


> On 16 March 2021 at 17:44 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> My guess is Pentax would have to have sourced a modified version.
> 
> I don't think Pentax could continue to use a part *KNOWING* it was likely to 
> fail. Nor do I think they would even if they could get away with it.
> 
> The question is how to find out whether a used K-70 has the "good" solenoid 
> before you buy it. I'm pretty sure a new one would be Ok.

Having a good one or a replaced (with good) one would be a selling point.  If 
it's not mentioned, caveat emptor.

> 
> On 3/15/2021 12:37:20, Alistair Lax wrote:
> > Having spent a few hours looking at the Pentax forums it appears that the 
> > original white Japanese solenoid was discontinued and was replaced with a 
> > green 
> > Chinese one which was problematic. As far as I can work out, Pentax is 
> > still 
> > using a green Chinese solenoid. Therefore the key question, which I've so 
> > far 
> > been unable to clarify, is whether the currently used solenoid is a 
> > modified 
> > version.
> > 
> > Alistair
> > 
> > On 15/03/2021 04:25 pm, Bill wrote:
> >> On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
> >>> The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it 
> >>> appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot 
> >>> of 
> >>> internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some 
> >>> people 
> >>> who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax 
> >>> representative 
> >>> who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a 
> >>> confused picture.
> >>>
> >>> Alistair
> >>
> >> Honestly, a good place to get this sort of information is pentaxforums.com.
> >> My understanding is the problem originated from the supplier of the 
> >> solenoid 
> >> either stopping making it or making it unavailable, so a new one was 
> >> sourced 
> >> from another vendor, and that one is problematic.
> >>
> >> bill
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-16 Thread P. J. Alling

Keith Richards isn't really older than dirt, he only looks it.

On 3/16/2021 1:28 PM, John wrote:
We should start thinking now what kind of world we're going to be 
leaving Keith Richards.


On 3/15/2021 14:15:53, Bill wrote:

On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

The only winners are the lawyers.


I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches 
as the last surviving species.


bill


-Original Message-

From: Alistair Lax 
Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML

The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but
it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. 
There's a

lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70,
some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a 
Pentax

representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was
different. It's a confused picture.

Alistair

On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote:



Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:
Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the 
Aperture Block

problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided
that I
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - 
especially
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty 
ended. K-70

order cancelled!


Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?

Ralf


Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class
action lawsuit about it in the USA.

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-16 Thread John

My guess is Pentax would have to have sourced a modified version.

I don't think Pentax could continue to use a part *KNOWING* it was likely to 
fail. Nor do I think they would even if they could get away with it.


The question is how to find out whether a used K-70 has the "good" solenoid 
before you buy it. I'm pretty sure a new one would be Ok.


On 3/15/2021 12:37:20, Alistair Lax wrote:
Having spent a few hours looking at the Pentax forums it appears that the 
original white Japanese solenoid was discontinued and was replaced with a green 
Chinese one which was problematic. As far as I can work out, Pentax is still 
using a green Chinese solenoid. Therefore the key question, which I've so far 
been unable to clarify, is whether the currently used solenoid is a modified 
version.


Alistair

On 15/03/2021 04:25 pm, Bill wrote:

On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it 
appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of 
internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people 
who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representative 
who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a 
confused picture.


Alistair


Honestly, a good place to get this sort of information is pentaxforums.com.
My understanding is the problem originated from the supplier of the solenoid 
either stopping making it or making it unavailable, so a new one was sourced 
from another vendor, and that one is problematic.


bill
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-16 Thread John
We should start thinking now what kind of world we're going to be leaving Keith 
Richards.


On 3/15/2021 14:15:53, Bill wrote:

On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

The only winners are the lawyers.


I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as the last 
surviving species.


bill


-Original Message-

From: Alistair Lax 
Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML

The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but
it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a
lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70,
some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax
representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was
different. It's a confused picture.

Alistair

On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote:



Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:

Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block
problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided
that I
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70
order cancelled!


Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?

Ralf


Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class
action lawsuit about it in the USA.

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Ken Waller
The only winners are the lawyers.


-Original Message-
>From: Alistair Lax 
>Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML
>
>The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but 
>it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a 
>lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, 
>some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax 
>representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was 
>different. It's a confused picture.
>
>Alistair
>
>On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote:
>> 
>>> Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:
>>>> Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:
>>>>> Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block
>>>>> problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided 
>>>>> that I
>>>>> didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially
>>>>> one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70
>>>>> order cancelled!
>>>>
>>>> Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?
>>>>
>>>> Ralf
>> 
>> Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class 
>> action lawsuit about it in the USA.
>> 
>> bill
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread mike wilson

> On 15 March 2021 at 15:31 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 15 Mar 2021, at 15:24, Bill  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>> On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> >>> Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and
> >>> Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square 
> >>> miles
> >>> of territory!  As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns 
> >>> and
> >>> attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France.
> > 
> > I'm betting if DJTrump ever dictates his memoirs, it will probably sound 
> > the same, except for ruling over the .004 square miles of his exile, and 
> > probably using very small words.
> > 
> > har!!
> > 
> > bill
> > 
> At least Napoleon still had some rats to govern.
> 
> DJT’s will all have fled the ship by the time he finds an amanuensis.

I was going to write that he couldn't spell one, never mind find one - but I'm 
pretty sure, on past performances, that he couldn't even pronounce one.  And 
I'm positive he couldn't find one with both hands and a Michelin route map.
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bob Pdml

> On 15 Mar 2021, at 18:15, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> The only winners are the lawyers.
> 
> I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as the 
> last surviving species.

Mitch McConnell will outlast them all 
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill

On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

The only winners are the lawyers.


I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as 
the last surviving species.


bill


-Original Message-

From: Alistair Lax 
Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML

The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but
it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a
lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70,
some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax
representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was
different. It's a confused picture.

Alistair

On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote:



Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:

Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block
problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided
that I
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70
order cancelled!


Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?

Ralf


Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class
action lawsuit about it in the USA.

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Alistair Lax
Having spent a few hours looking at the Pentax forums it appears that 
the original white Japanese solenoid was discontinued and was replaced 
with a green Chinese one which was problematic. As far as I can work 
out, Pentax is still using a green Chinese solenoid. Therefore the key 
question, which I've so far been unable to clarify, is whether the 
currently used solenoid is a modified version.


Alistair

On 15/03/2021 04:25 pm, Bill wrote:

On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but 
it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's 
a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a 
K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a 
Pentax representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 
was different. It's a confused picture.


Alistair


Honestly, a good place to get this sort of information is pentaxforums.com.
My understanding is the problem originated from the supplier of the 
solenoid either stopping making it or making it unavailable, so a new 
one was sourced from another vendor, and that one is problematic.


bill
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill

On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but 
it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a 
lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, 
some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax 
representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was 
different. It's a confused picture.


Alistair


Honestly, a good place to get this sort of information is pentaxforums.com.
My understanding is the problem originated from the supplier of the 
solenoid either stopping making it or making it unavailable, so a new 
one was sourced from another vendor, and that one is problematic.


bill
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Alistair Lax
The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but 
it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a 
lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, 
some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax 
representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was 
different. It's a confused picture.


Alistair

On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote:



Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:

Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block
problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided 
that I

didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70
order cancelled!


Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?

Ralf


Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class 
action lawsuit about it in the USA.


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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill




Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:

Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block
problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70
order cancelled!


Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?

Ralf


Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class 
action lawsuit about it in the USA.


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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Henk Terhell

Makes it a lot easier to submit to PUG!

Henk

Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:

Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block
problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70
order cancelled!


Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 15 Mar 2021, at 15:24, Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
>>> On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>>> Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and
>>> Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles
>>> of territory!  As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and
>>> attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France.
> 
> I'm betting if DJTrump ever dictates his memoirs, it will probably sound the 
> same, except for ruling over the .004 square miles of his exile, and probably 
> using very small words.
> 
> har!!
> 
> bill
> 
At least Napoleon still had some rats to govern.

DJT’s will all have fled the ship by the time he finds an amanuensis.

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bob Pdml
Can’t see it from where I am either* but that won’t stop me.

*Which proves that the earth is not flat. Or possibly that France doesn’t 
really exist. Or the maps are all wrong.

> On 15 Mar 2021, at 15:15, John  wrote:
> 
> Thinking about it, I don't think you can see France from Saint Helena.
> 
>> On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and
>> Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles
>> of territory!  As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and
>> attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France.
>> John in Brisbane
>> -Original Message- From: Bob Pdml  Sent: Saturday,
>> 13 March 2021 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List  Subject:
>> Re: Rejoined PDML
>> Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let
>> alone who was there.
>> Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking
>> across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena.
>> https://www.napoleon.org/wp-content/thumbnails/uploads/2015/10/proposition-de-constitution-aux-habitants-de-lile-de-sainte-helene-par-lex-empereur-et-roi-c-musee-carnavalet-anonyme-tt-width-637-height-482-crop-1-bgcolor-ff-lazyload-0.jpg
>> 
>>>> On 13 Mar 2021, at 11:36, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years
>>> Never heard of you mate ;-)
>>> I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When
>>> the fun stops, that'll be it.
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill



On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and
Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square 
miles
of territory!  As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his 
campaigns and

attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France.


I'm betting if DJTrump ever dictates his memoirs, it will probably sound 
the same, except for ruling over the .004 square miles of his exile, and 
probably using very small words.


har!!

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread John

Thinking about it, I don't think you can see France from Saint Helena.

On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and
Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles
of territory!  As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and
attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France.


John in Brisbane



-Original Message- From: Bob Pdml  Sent: Saturday,
13 March 2021 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List  Subject:
Re: Rejoined PDML

Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let
alone who was there.

Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking
across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena.

https://www.napoleon.org/wp-content/thumbnails/uploads/2015/10/proposition-de-constitution-aux-habitants-de-lile-de-sainte-helene-par-lex-empereur-et-roi-c-musee-carnavalet-anonyme-tt-width-637-height-482-crop-1-bgcolor-ff-lazyload-0.jpg






On 13 Mar 2021, at 11:36, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years


Never heard of you mate ;-)

I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:

Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block
problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70
order cancelled!


Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?

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2021-03-15 Thread Bill

On 3/15/2021 8:23 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 15.03.21 um 14:57 schrieb Bill:


The K3 is still an excellent performer in the APS-C class


After a *istDS, a K10D, a K20D, a K-7 and a K-5, I've got my K-3 in 2014
and still love it to bits. Never had a DSLR that long without the
slightest wish to upgrade.



I'm finally letting my K3 go this weekend. We've had to delay Christmas, 
but I'm giving my K3 and 18-135 to my grand daughter. I have only used 
it once since I bought the K1, and really have no desire to go back to 
the APS-C format, but if I do, I still have my Fuji.


The only problem my K3 has, and it's entirely my own fault as I left it 
with no battery for several years, is the built in battery that keeps 
the date and time settings has died, so the camera reverts to Jan 1 2013 
whenever the main battery is changed. I didn't check to see if it 
affected user settings.


My understanding is that if a charged battery is kept in the battery 
bay, the camera uses it to maintain date and time and other settings, 
and so won't discharge the battery on the motherboard.


Live and learn.

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 15.03.21 um 14:57 schrieb Bill:


The K3 is still an excellent performer in the APS-C class


After a *istDS, a K10D, a K20D, a K-7 and a K-5, I've got my K-3 in 2014
and still love it to bits. Never had a DSLR that long without the
slightest wish to upgrade.

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill
The K3III should be along soon, but apparently there have been 
interuptions in the parts supply that is slowing it down.
It is not going to be an inexpensive camera, but one can anticipate K3 
bodies hitting the used market upon the release of the new camera.
The K3 is still an excellent performer in the APS-C class, shough IIRC, 
you are gaining 50% MP but trading off a little bit of high ISO 
performance over the K5.
The K3 does not use a solenoid for aperture actuation, it uses a motor, 
and has been very reliable.


bill

On 3/15/2021 4:48 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block 
problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I 
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially 
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 
order cancelled!


I'll do some more research. It may be that Pentax have sorted this, but 
I haven't seen any evidence either way. I also need to look at the other 
options.


Alistair

On 15/03/2021 01:25 am, Rick Womer wrote:

Welcome back Alastair!

I went from the istD to the K-10D to the K-7 and then to the K-5 
(which I’m still using almost 10 years later).


The K-5 has a higher-resolution sensor with =much= better low-light 
performance than the K-7; and the colors are almost as good as those 
of the K-10.


My wife has a K-70, and IMHO the user interface is not nearly as good 
as any of the others.


Cheers,

Rick

On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax  
wrote:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence 
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too 
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when 
weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a 
fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax 
more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... 
And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly 
have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 
will probably suit, but I must do more research.


I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I 
met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm 
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course 
the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to 
Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in 
the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a 
morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out 
soon.


BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Alistair Lax
Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block 
problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I 
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially 
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 
order cancelled!


I'll do some more research. It may be that Pentax have sorted this, but 
I haven't seen any evidence either way. I also need to look at the other 
options.


Alistair

On 15/03/2021 01:25 am, Rick Womer wrote:

Welcome back Alastair!

I went from the istD to the K-10D to the K-7 and then to the K-5 (which I’m 
still using almost 10 years later).

The K-5 has a higher-resolution sensor with =much= better low-light performance 
than the K-7; and the colors are almost as good as those of the K-10.

My wife has a K-70, and IMHO the user interface is not nearly as good as any of 
the others.

Cheers,

Rick


On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax  wrote:

I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have 
been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge 
camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the 
Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's 
been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and 
film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and 
supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 
will probably suit, but I must do more research.

I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 
2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just 
the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions 
ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a 
microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the 
past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely 
allowed out soon.

BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-14 Thread Rick Womer
Welcome back Alastair!

I went from the istD to the K-10D to the K-7 and then to the K-5 (which I’m 
still using almost 10 years later).

The K-5 has a higher-resolution sensor with =much= better low-light performance 
than the K-7; and the colors are almost as good as those of the K-10.

My wife has a K-70, and IMHO the user interface is not nearly as good as any of 
the others.

Cheers,

Rick

> On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax  wrote:
> 
> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would 
> have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the 
> bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. 
> However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old 
> grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted 
> to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now 
> that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor 
> would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research.
> 
> I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 
> 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just 
> the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions 
> ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a 
> microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the 
> past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely 
> allowed out soon.
> 
> BTW, is there still a digest version?
> 
> back to lurking
> 
> Alistair
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2021-03-14 Thread jcoyle
Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and Bertrand, 
I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles of territory! 
 As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and attempting to 
justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France.


John in Brisbane



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Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let 
alone who was there.

Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking across 
the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena.

https://www.napoleon.org/wp-content/thumbnails/uploads/2015/10/proposition-de-constitution-aux-habitants-de-lile-de-sainte-helene-par-lex-empereur-et-roi-c-musee-carnavalet-anonyme-tt-width-637-height-482-crop-1-bgcolor-ff-lazyload-0.jpg




> On 13 Mar 2021, at 11:36, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years
> 
> Never heard of you mate ;-)
> 
> I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When 
> the fun stops, that'll be it.
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2021-03-14 Thread Alistair Lax
Thanks - I came across those posts and the instructions, which I 
downloaded, but hopefully it won't come to that.


Alistair

On 14/03/2021 08:31 pm, Henk Terhell wrote:
There are definitely some threads at Pentax Forums devoted to this issue 
and even instructions how to replace the solenoid yourself.

How to detect this issue:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/193-pentax-k-70/402049-how-detect-aperture-block-failure-stuck-solenoid-pentax-k-70-a.html 



Henk

Op 2021-03-14 om 15:20 schreef P. J. Alling:
The survey at Pentax Fora included the K-70 and no one reported a 
failure.  So you're probably safe with a K-70.


On 3/14/2021 6:31 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax 
Aperture Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are 
few reports of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax 
models. I think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in 
particular the fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my 
Lumix bridge camera. It would be very disappointing if Pentax is 
still putting out cameras with a known dodgy solenoid.


I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy.

Alistair

On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote:
Welcome back.  I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - 
but memory

isn't a strong point at my age :-)

Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax 
Aperture Block"
which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It 
might be worth

considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs.

Cheers
Brian

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On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax 
more. I
might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And 
should
I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more 
time?
A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably 
suit,

but I must do more research.

I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the
eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the 
history
of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid 
fascination,

but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.

BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

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2021-03-14 Thread Henk Terhell
There are definitely some threads at Pentax Forums devoted to this issue 
and even instructions how to replace the solenoid yourself.

How to detect this issue:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/193-pentax-k-70/402049-how-detect-aperture-block-failure-stuck-solenoid-pentax-k-70-a.html

Henk

Op 2021-03-14 om 15:20 schreef P. J. Alling:
The survey at Pentax Fora included the K-70 and no one reported a 
failure.  So you're probably safe with a K-70.


On 3/14/2021 6:31 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax 
Aperture Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are 
few reports of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax 
models. I think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in 
particular the fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my 
Lumix bridge camera. It would be very disappointing if Pentax is 
still putting out cameras with a known dodgy solenoid.


I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy.

Alistair

On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote:
Welcome back.  I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - 
but memory

isn't a strong point at my age :-)

Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax 
Aperture Block"
which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It 
might be worth

considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs.

Cheers
Brian

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On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax 
more. I
might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And 
should
I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more 
time?
A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably 
suit,

but I must do more research.

I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the
eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the 
history
of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid 
fascination,

but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.

BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

Alistair
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2021-03-14 Thread P. J. Alling
The survey at Pentax Fora included the K-70 and no one reported a 
failure.  So you're probably safe with a K-70.


On 3/14/2021 6:31 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture 
Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports 
of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax models. I 
think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in particular 
the fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my Lumix bridge 
camera. It would be very disappointing if Pentax is still putting out 
cameras with a known dodgy solenoid.


I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy.

Alistair

On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote:
Welcome back.  I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - 
but memory

isn't a strong point at my age :-)

Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture 
Block"
which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70.  It 
might be worth

considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs.

Cheers
Brian

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On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax 
more. I

might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should
I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more 
time?
A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably 
suit,

but I must do more research.

I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the
eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history
of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid 
fascination,

but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.

BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

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2021-03-14 Thread Alistair Lax
Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture 
Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports of 
it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax models. I think 
I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in particular the 
fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my Lumix bridge camera. 
It would be very disappointing if Pentax is still putting out cameras 
with a known dodgy solenoid.


I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy.

Alistair

On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote:

Welcome back.  I was here 10 years ago  but don't recall your name - but memory
isn't a strong point at my age :-)

Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block"
which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70.  It might be worth
considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs.

Cheers
Brian

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On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I
might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should
I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time?
A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit,
but I must do more research.

I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the
eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history
of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination,
but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.

BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

Alistair
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread ann sanfedele

Alistair - I remember you, even if you were, um, lax :-)

but Have no advice on the k-70

Welcome back anyway
ann

On 3/13/2021 4:26 PM, Brian W wrote:

Welcome back.  I was here 10 years ago  but don't recall your name - but memory
isn't a strong point at my age :-)

Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block"
which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70.  It might be worth
considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs.

Cheers
Brian

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https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries



On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I
might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should
I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time?
A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit,
but I must do more research.

I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm
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eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history
of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination,
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BTW, is there still a digest version?

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Henk Terhell
Don't wait too long should you consider to obtain a KP , because it is 
being discontinued.


Henk

Op 2021-03-13 om 22:26 schreef Brian W:

Welcome back.  I was here 10 years ago  but don't recall your name - but memory
isn't a strong point at my age :-)

Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block"
which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70.  It might be worth
considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs.

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On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I
might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should
I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time?
A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit,
but I must do more research.

I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the
eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history
of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination,
but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.

BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Brian W
Welcome back.  I was here 10 years ago  but don't recall your name - but memory
isn't a strong point at my age :-)

Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block"
which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70.  It might be worth
considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs.

Cheers
Brian

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> On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence 
> would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too 
> busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight 
> was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast 
> moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I 
> might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should 
> I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? 
> A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, 
> but I must do more research.
> 
> I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met 
> at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm 
> enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the 
> eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 
> antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history 
> of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, 
> but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.
> 
> BTW, is there still a digest version?
> 
> back to lurking
> 
> Alistair
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Larry Colen


> On Mar 13, 2021, at 8:56 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Well Everyone else was just clowning around, so I'll be serious, maybe.  I 
> think there is still a digest version, Upgrading the K20D is well worth it, 
> any Pentax made after it will have better high ISO capability, and much 
> better and better faster auto focus.

With the possible exception of the K-7.  I picked up the low end K-x and in 
anything darker than studio light its image quality blew away my K20.  The K-5 
gave me “good enough” image quality that for the vast majority of photography 
I’d never need to upgrade.  The later bodies are so good that it’s easy to 
start chasing photos that would not have even been possible a few years back.  
> 
> On 3/13/2021 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
>> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would 
>> have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the 
>> bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. 
>> However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old 
>> grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted 
>> to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now 
>> that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor 
>> would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research.
>> 
>> I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at 
>> the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not 
>> just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT 
>> discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody 
>> responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, 
>> the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully 
>> we will all be safely allowed out soon.

BTW, have you read the “Blackthorn Key” books by Kevin Sands?  Nominally for a 
young audience they’re about an apothecary apprentice in 1665 London.  He does 
a great job on both the science and the history.

>> 
>> BTW, is there still a digest version?
>> 
>> back to lurking
>> 
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread mike wilson
After your expedition to find the lost Frans Lanting had returned.

> On 13 March 2021 at 12:57 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> Now I remember - didn’t one of the stall holders try to sell them as 
> grass-fed artisan Weetabix?
> 
> 
> 
> > On 13 Mar 2021, at 12:51, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On 13 March 2021 at 12:10 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, 
> >> let alone who was there.
> > 
> > I remember my eyebrows being there.
> > 
> >> 
> >> Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking 
> >> across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena.
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Well Everyone else was just clowning around, so I'll be serious, maybe.  
I think there is still a digest version, Upgrading the K20D is well 
worth it, any Pentax made after it will have better high ISO capability, 
and much better and better faster auto focus.


On 3/13/2021 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence 
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too 
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight 
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast 
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. 
I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And 
should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have 
more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will 
probably suit, but I must do more research.


I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met 
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm 
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the 
eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the 
history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid 
fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.


BTW, is there still a digest version?

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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread mike wilson

> On 13 March 2021 at 12:10 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let 
> alone who was there.

I remember my eyebrows being there.

> 
> Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking 
> across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena.
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread mike wilson
I think there's a rule about lurking when retired.  Especially when one has 
specialist knowledge about present situations

> On 13 March 2021 at 11:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence 
> would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too 
> busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight 
> was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast 
> moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I 
> might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should 
> I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? 
> A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, 
> but I must do more research.
> 
> I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met 
> at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm 
> enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the 
> eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 
> antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history 
> of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, 
> but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.
> 
> BTW, is there still a digest version?
> 
> back to lurking
> 
> Alistair
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Bob Pdml
Now I remember - didn’t one of the stall holders try to sell them as grass-fed 
artisan Weetabix?



> On 13 Mar 2021, at 12:51, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 13 March 2021 at 12:10 Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let 
>> alone who was there.
> 
> I remember my eyebrows being there.
> 
>> 
>> Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking 
>> across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena.
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Bob Pdml
Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let 
alone who was there.

Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking across 
the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena.

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> On 13 Mar 2021, at 11:36, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years
> 
> Never heard of you mate ;-)
> 
> I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When 
> the fun stops, that'll be it.
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Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years

Never heard of you mate ;-)

I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When the 
fun stops, that'll be it.




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