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> On 16 March 2021 at 17:44 John wrote: > > > My guess is Pentax would have to have sourced a modified version. > > I don't think Pentax could continue to use a part *KNOWING* it was likely to > fail. Nor do I think they would even if they could get away with it. > > The question is how to find out whether a used K-70 has the "good" solenoid > before you buy it. I'm pretty sure a new one would be Ok. Having a good one or a replaced (with good) one would be a selling point. If it's not mentioned, caveat emptor. > > On 3/15/2021 12:37:20, Alistair Lax wrote: > > Having spent a few hours looking at the Pentax forums it appears that the > > original white Japanese solenoid was discontinued and was replaced with a > > green > > Chinese one which was problematic. As far as I can work out, Pentax is > > still > > using a green Chinese solenoid. Therefore the key question, which I've so > > far > > been unable to clarify, is whether the currently used solenoid is a > > modified > > version. > > > > Alistair > > > > On 15/03/2021 04:25 pm, Bill wrote: > >> On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: > >>> The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it > >>> appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot > >>> of > >>> internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some > >>> people > >>> who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax > >>> representative > >>> who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a > >>> confused picture. > >>> > >>> Alistair > >> > >> Honestly, a good place to get this sort of information is pentaxforums.com. > >> My understanding is the problem originated from the supplier of the > >> solenoid > >> either stopping making it or making it unavailable, so a new one was > >> sourced > >> from another vendor, and that one is problematic. > >> > >> bill > >> -- -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Keith Richards isn't really older than dirt, he only looks it. On 3/16/2021 1:28 PM, John wrote: We should start thinking now what kind of world we're going to be leaving Keith Richards. On 3/15/2021 14:15:53, Bill wrote: On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: The only winners are the lawyers. I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as the last surviving species. bill -Original Message- From: Alistair Lax Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a confused picture. Alistair On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote: Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble? Ralf Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class action lawsuit about it in the USA. bill -- -- Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My guess is Pentax would have to have sourced a modified version. I don't think Pentax could continue to use a part *KNOWING* it was likely to fail. Nor do I think they would even if they could get away with it. The question is how to find out whether a used K-70 has the "good" solenoid before you buy it. I'm pretty sure a new one would be Ok. On 3/15/2021 12:37:20, Alistair Lax wrote: Having spent a few hours looking at the Pentax forums it appears that the original white Japanese solenoid was discontinued and was replaced with a green Chinese one which was problematic. As far as I can work out, Pentax is still using a green Chinese solenoid. Therefore the key question, which I've so far been unable to clarify, is whether the currently used solenoid is a modified version. Alistair On 15/03/2021 04:25 pm, Bill wrote: On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a confused picture. Alistair Honestly, a good place to get this sort of information is pentaxforums.com. My understanding is the problem originated from the supplier of the solenoid either stopping making it or making it unavailable, so a new one was sourced from another vendor, and that one is problematic. bill -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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We should start thinking now what kind of world we're going to be leaving Keith Richards. On 3/15/2021 14:15:53, Bill wrote: On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: The only winners are the lawyers. I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as the last surviving species. bill -Original Message- From: Alistair Lax Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a confused picture. Alistair On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote: Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble? Ralf Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class action lawsuit about it in the USA. bill -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The only winners are the lawyers. -Original Message- >From: Alistair Lax >Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML > >The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but >it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a >lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, >some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax >representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was >different. It's a confused picture. > >Alistair > >On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote: >> >>> Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: >>>> Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: >>>>> Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block >>>>> problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided >>>>> that I >>>>> didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially >>>>> one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 >>>>> order cancelled! >>>> >>>> Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble? >>>> >>>> Ralf >> >> Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class >> action lawsuit about it in the USA. >> >> bill >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 15 March 2021 at 15:31 Bob Pdml wrote: > > > > On 15 Mar 2021, at 15:24, Bill wrote: > > > > > >>> On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: > >>> Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and > >>> Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square > >>> miles > >>> of territory! As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns > >>> and > >>> attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France. > > > > I'm betting if DJTrump ever dictates his memoirs, it will probably sound > > the same, except for ruling over the .004 square miles of his exile, and > > probably using very small words. > > > > har!! > > > > bill > > > At least Napoleon still had some rats to govern. > > DJT’s will all have fled the ship by the time he finds an amanuensis. I was going to write that he couldn't spell one, never mind find one - but I'm pretty sure, on past performances, that he couldn't even pronounce one. And I'm positive he couldn't find one with both hands and a Michelin route map. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 15 Mar 2021, at 18:15, Bill wrote: > > On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >> The only winners are the lawyers. > > I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as the > last surviving species. Mitch McConnell will outlast them all -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: The only winners are the lawyers. I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as the last surviving species. bill -Original Message- From: Alistair Lax Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a confused picture. Alistair On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote: Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble? Ralf Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class action lawsuit about it in the USA. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Having spent a few hours looking at the Pentax forums it appears that the original white Japanese solenoid was discontinued and was replaced with a green Chinese one which was problematic. As far as I can work out, Pentax is still using a green Chinese solenoid. Therefore the key question, which I've so far been unable to clarify, is whether the currently used solenoid is a modified version. Alistair On 15/03/2021 04:25 pm, Bill wrote: On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a confused picture. Alistair Honestly, a good place to get this sort of information is pentaxforums.com. My understanding is the problem originated from the supplier of the solenoid either stopping making it or making it unavailable, so a new one was sourced from another vendor, and that one is problematic. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a confused picture. Alistair Honestly, a good place to get this sort of information is pentaxforums.com. My understanding is the problem originated from the supplier of the solenoid either stopping making it or making it unavailable, so a new one was sourced from another vendor, and that one is problematic. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was different. It's a confused picture. Alistair On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote: Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble? Ralf Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class action lawsuit about it in the USA. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble? Ralf Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class action lawsuit about it in the USA. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Makes it a lot easier to submit to PUG! Henk Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 15 Mar 2021, at 15:24, Bill wrote: > > >>> On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: >>> Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and >>> Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles >>> of territory! As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and >>> attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France. > > I'm betting if DJTrump ever dictates his memoirs, it will probably sound the > same, except for ruling over the .004 square miles of his exile, and probably > using very small words. > > har!! > > bill > At least Napoleon still had some rats to govern. DJT’s will all have fled the ship by the time he finds an amanuensis. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Can’t see it from where I am either* but that won’t stop me. *Which proves that the earth is not flat. Or possibly that France doesn’t really exist. Or the maps are all wrong. > On 15 Mar 2021, at 15:15, John wrote: > > Thinking about it, I don't think you can see France from Saint Helena. > >> On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: >> Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and >> Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles >> of territory! As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and >> attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France. >> John in Brisbane >> -Original Message- From: Bob Pdml Sent: Saturday, >> 13 March 2021 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: >> Re: Rejoined PDML >> Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let >> alone who was there. >> Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking >> across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena. >> https://www.napoleon.org/wp-content/thumbnails/uploads/2015/10/proposition-de-constitution-aux-habitants-de-lile-de-sainte-helene-par-lex-empereur-et-roi-c-musee-carnavalet-anonyme-tt-width-637-height-482-crop-1-bgcolor-ff-lazyload-0.jpg >> >>>> On 13 Mar 2021, at 11:36, Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed: >>>> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years >>> Never heard of you mate ;-) >>> I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When >>> the fun stops, that'll be it. >> -- > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles of territory! As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France. I'm betting if DJTrump ever dictates his memoirs, it will probably sound the same, except for ruling over the .004 square miles of his exile, and probably using very small words. har!! bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thinking about it, I don't think you can see France from Saint Helena. On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles of territory! As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Bob Pdml Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let alone who was there. Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena. https://www.napoleon.org/wp-content/thumbnails/uploads/2015/10/proposition-de-constitution-aux-habitants-de-lile-de-sainte-helene-par-lex-empereur-et-roi-c-musee-carnavalet-anonyme-tt-width-637-height-482-crop-1-bgcolor-ff-lazyload-0.jpg On 13 Mar 2021, at 11:36, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years Never heard of you mate ;-) I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When the fun stops, that'll be it. -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/15/2021 8:23 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 15.03.21 um 14:57 schrieb Bill: The K3 is still an excellent performer in the APS-C class After a *istDS, a K10D, a K20D, a K-7 and a K-5, I've got my K-3 in 2014 and still love it to bits. Never had a DSLR that long without the slightest wish to upgrade. I'm finally letting my K3 go this weekend. We've had to delay Christmas, but I'm giving my K3 and 18-135 to my grand daughter. I have only used it once since I bought the K1, and really have no desire to go back to the APS-C format, but if I do, I still have my Fuji. The only problem my K3 has, and it's entirely my own fault as I left it with no battery for several years, is the built in battery that keeps the date and time settings has died, so the camera reverts to Jan 1 2013 whenever the main battery is changed. I didn't check to see if it affected user settings. My understanding is that if a charged battery is kept in the battery bay, the camera uses it to maintain date and time and other settings, and so won't discharge the battery on the motherboard. Live and learn. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Am 15.03.21 um 14:57 schrieb Bill: The K3 is still an excellent performer in the APS-C class After a *istDS, a K10D, a K20D, a K-7 and a K-5, I've got my K-3 in 2014 and still love it to bits. Never had a DSLR that long without the slightest wish to upgrade. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The K3III should be along soon, but apparently there have been interuptions in the parts supply that is slowing it down. It is not going to be an inexpensive camera, but one can anticipate K3 bodies hitting the used market upon the release of the new camera. The K3 is still an excellent performer in the APS-C class, shough IIRC, you are gaining 50% MP but trading off a little bit of high ISO performance over the K5. The K3 does not use a solenoid for aperture actuation, it uses a motor, and has been very reliable. bill On 3/15/2021 4:48 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! I'll do some more research. It may be that Pentax have sorted this, but I haven't seen any evidence either way. I also need to look at the other options. Alistair On 15/03/2021 01:25 am, Rick Womer wrote: Welcome back Alastair! I went from the istD to the K-10D to the K-7 and then to the K-5 (which I’m still using almost 10 years later). The K-5 has a higher-resolution sensor with =much= better low-light performance than the K-7; and the colors are almost as good as those of the K-10. My wife has a K-70, and IMHO the user interface is not nearly as good as any of the others. Cheers, Rick On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order cancelled! I'll do some more research. It may be that Pentax have sorted this, but I haven't seen any evidence either way. I also need to look at the other options. Alistair On 15/03/2021 01:25 am, Rick Womer wrote: Welcome back Alastair! I went from the istD to the K-10D to the K-7 and then to the K-5 (which I’m still using almost 10 years later). The K-5 has a higher-resolution sensor with =much= better low-light performance than the K-7; and the colors are almost as good as those of the K-10. My wife has a K-70, and IMHO the user interface is not nearly as good as any of the others. Cheers, Rick On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Welcome back Alastair! I went from the istD to the K-10D to the K-7 and then to the K-5 (which I’m still using almost 10 years later). The K-5 has a higher-resolution sensor with =much= better low-light performance than the K-7; and the colors are almost as good as those of the K-10. My wife has a K-70, and IMHO the user interface is not nearly as good as any of the others. Cheers, Rick > On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: > > I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would > have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the > bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. > However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old > grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted > to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now > that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor > would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. > > I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the > 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just > the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions > ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a > microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the > past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely > allowed out soon. > > BTW, is there still a digest version? > > back to lurking > > Alistair > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles of territory! As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Bob Pdml Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let alone who was there. Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena. https://www.napoleon.org/wp-content/thumbnails/uploads/2015/10/proposition-de-constitution-aux-habitants-de-lile-de-sainte-helene-par-lex-empereur-et-roi-c-musee-carnavalet-anonyme-tt-width-637-height-482-crop-1-bgcolor-ff-lazyload-0.jpg > On 13 Mar 2021, at 11:36, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years > > Never heard of you mate ;-) > > I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When > the fun stops, that'll be it. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks - I came across those posts and the instructions, which I downloaded, but hopefully it won't come to that. Alistair On 14/03/2021 08:31 pm, Henk Terhell wrote: There are definitely some threads at Pentax Forums devoted to this issue and even instructions how to replace the solenoid yourself. How to detect this issue: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/193-pentax-k-70/402049-how-detect-aperture-block-failure-stuck-solenoid-pentax-k-70-a.html Henk Op 2021-03-14 om 15:20 schreef P. J. Alling: The survey at Pentax Fora included the K-70 and no one reported a failure. So you're probably safe with a K-70. On 3/14/2021 6:31 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax models. I think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in particular the fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my Lumix bridge camera. It would be very disappointing if Pentax is still putting out cameras with a known dodgy solenoid. I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy. Alistair On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote: Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block" which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It might be worth considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There are definitely some threads at Pentax Forums devoted to this issue and even instructions how to replace the solenoid yourself. How to detect this issue: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/193-pentax-k-70/402049-how-detect-aperture-block-failure-stuck-solenoid-pentax-k-70-a.html Henk Op 2021-03-14 om 15:20 schreef P. J. Alling: The survey at Pentax Fora included the K-70 and no one reported a failure. So you're probably safe with a K-70. On 3/14/2021 6:31 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax models. I think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in particular the fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my Lumix bridge camera. It would be very disappointing if Pentax is still putting out cameras with a known dodgy solenoid. I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy. Alistair On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote: Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block" which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It might be worth considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The survey at Pentax Fora included the K-70 and no one reported a failure. So you're probably safe with a K-70. On 3/14/2021 6:31 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax models. I think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in particular the fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my Lumix bridge camera. It would be very disappointing if Pentax is still putting out cameras with a known dodgy solenoid. I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy. Alistair On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote: Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block" which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It might be worth considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax models. I think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in particular the fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my Lumix bridge camera. It would be very disappointing if Pentax is still putting out cameras with a known dodgy solenoid. I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy. Alistair On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote: Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block" which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It might be worth considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Alistair - I remember you, even if you were, um, lax :-) but Have no advice on the k-70 Welcome back anyway ann On 3/13/2021 4:26 PM, Brian W wrote: Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block" which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It might be worth considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Don't wait too long should you consider to obtain a KP , because it is being discontinued. Henk Op 2021-03-13 om 22:26 schreef Brian W: Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block" which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It might be worth considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block" which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It might be worth considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ https://500px.com/supera1000/galleries > On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax wrote: > > > I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence > would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too > busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight > was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast > moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I > might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should > I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? > A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, > but I must do more research. > > I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met > at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm > enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the > eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 > antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history > of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, > but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. > > BTW, is there still a digest version? > > back to lurking > > Alistair > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On Mar 13, 2021, at 8:56 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Well Everyone else was just clowning around, so I'll be serious, maybe. I > think there is still a digest version, Upgrading the K20D is well worth it, > any Pentax made after it will have better high ISO capability, and much > better and better faster auto focus. With the possible exception of the K-7. I picked up the low end K-x and in anything darker than studio light its image quality blew away my K20. The K-5 gave me “good enough” image quality that for the vast majority of photography I’d never need to upgrade. The later bodies are so good that it’s easy to start chasing photos that would not have even been possible a few years back. > > On 3/13/2021 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: >> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would >> have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the >> bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. >> However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old >> grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted >> to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now >> that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor >> would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. >> >> I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at >> the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not >> just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT >> discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody >> responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, >> the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully >> we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, have you read the “Blackthorn Key” books by Kevin Sands? Nominally for a young audience they’re about an apothecary apprentice in 1665 London. He does a great job on both the science and the history. >> >> BTW, is there still a digest version? >> >> back to lurking >> >> Alistair >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of > idiot to use a Pentax. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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After your expedition to find the lost Frans Lanting had returned. > On 13 March 2021 at 12:57 Bob Pdml wrote: > > > Now I remember - didn’t one of the stall holders try to sell them as > grass-fed artisan Weetabix? > > > > > On 13 Mar 2021, at 12:51, mike wilson wrote: > > > > > >> On 13 March 2021 at 12:10 Bob Pdml wrote: > >> > >> > >> Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, > >> let alone who was there. > > > > I remember my eyebrows being there. > > > >> > >> Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking > >> across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well Everyone else was just clowning around, so I'll be serious, maybe. I think there is still a digest version, Upgrading the K20D is well worth it, any Pentax made after it will have better high ISO capability, and much better and better faster auto focus. On 3/13/2021 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, but I must do more research. I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. BTW, is there still a digest version? back to lurking Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind of idiot to use a Pentax. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 13 March 2021 at 12:10 Bob Pdml wrote: > > > Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let > alone who was there. I remember my eyebrows being there. > > Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking > across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think there's a rule about lurking when retired. Especially when one has specialist knowledge about present situations > On 13 March 2021 at 11:06 Alistair Lax wrote: > > > I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence > would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too > busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight > was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast > moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. I > might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should > I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more time? > A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably suit, > but I must do more research. > > I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met > at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm > enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the > eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 > antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history > of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid fascination, > but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon. > > BTW, is there still a digest version? > > back to lurking > > Alistair -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Now I remember - didn’t one of the stall holders try to sell them as grass-fed artisan Weetabix? > On 13 Mar 2021, at 12:51, mike wilson wrote: > > >> On 13 March 2021 at 12:10 Bob Pdml wrote: >> >> >> Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let >> alone who was there. > > I remember my eyebrows being there. > >> >> Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking >> across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let alone who was there. Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena. https://www.napoleon.org/wp-content/thumbnails/uploads/2015/10/proposition-de-constitution-aux-habitants-de-lile-de-sainte-helene-par-lex-empereur-et-roi-c-musee-carnavalet-anonyme-tt-width-637-height-482-crop-1-bgcolor-ff-lazyload-0.jpg > On 13 Mar 2021, at 11:36, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years > > Never heard of you mate ;-) > > I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When > the fun stops, that'll be it. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed: >I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years Never heard of you mate ;-) I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When the fun stops, that'll be it. -- Cheers Cotty -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.