RE: PESO - Park Avenue

2013-11-19 Thread John Coyle
Excellent shot, Rick.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2013 1:05 PM
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Subject: PESO - Park Avenue

Tried posting this last evening but it didn't go through.  Looking south from 
about 55th St:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597044


(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments?

Cheers,

Rick
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Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about
 this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose the Radius?

http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1951754seqNum=4

It really depends on what you have in the photo, grass will require a
smaller radius, a coffee cup a higher one. Hold down the Alt key as
others said and eyeball it.

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Re: PESO - A Dog Ran Through It

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:45 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was shooting this fellow doing gymnastics at a bench in Trinity-Bellwoods 
 Park here in Toronto. I didn't notice the intruder at all during the shoot 
 however as I went through the photos I saw him:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/a-dog-ran-through-it.html?m=1

 and it was to me the most interesting frame by far.

Nice park scene, I also like the couple in the background.

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Re: GESO - Bristlecone Pines

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
I like 2 and 3, lovely mountain scenery:)

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
p...@alunfoto.no wrote:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/bristlecone-pines.html

 Six images from the park.

 Jostein

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Re: PESO - Glass Ceiling

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Brian Walters
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 'morning all...

 This is a detail shot of a glass chandelier (Fiori di Comoon by Dale
 Chihuly) the ceiling of the Bellagio casino in Las Vegas:

 http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1405-K5-1peso.html

 http://tinyurl.com/ml7kyhc

Nice colors. I'd like to see the whole thing.


 It was about the only thing I enjoyed in Las Vegas

What? No games?

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Re: OT Candice's take on moro rock

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 A few weeks ago, I posted my photos from moro rock on the road trip
 Candice and I took.  Here are her shots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccmonty/sets/72157636995900064/

Very nice gallery!

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Re: PESO - Park Avenue

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Tried posting this last evening but it didn't go through.  Looking south from 
 about 55th St:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597044

Nice composition. I like the city lights, good atmospheric night shot.

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Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I generally use only smart sharpen these days, unless I have a near miss 
situation, in which case I'll uise some unsharp mask. With the K-5, I set smart 
sharpen to about 65% with a radius of about 1.4, less for portraits. I've found 
that K-3 pics don't usually require any sharpening.  Sometimes 50% with a 
radius of 1.0.

Paul
On Nov 19, 2013, at 1:30 AM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 For initial sharpening, after conversion from DNG, I use the following - 
 Amout of sharpening 350%, Radius - 0.3, Threshold - 0 levels
 
 Before printing -  Amount of sharpening 350%, Radius 0.7, Threshold 3 levels. 
 I adjust threshold downward to eliminate fringing.
 
 HTH
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
 Subject: Sharpening Radius?
 
 
 
 
 I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about
 this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose the Radius?
 
 Yes, I read in the guides this:
 Radius: Controls the size of the edges you wish to enhance, where a
 smaller radius enhances smaller-scale detail. You'll usually want a
 radius setting that is comparable to the size of the smallest detail
 within your image.
 
 But how do you practically determine that, say in LR? You cannot tell
 the difference if it is 0.9 or 1.1 pixels.
 
 Also, several years ago, I remember seeing an advice somewhere (possibly
 here), where a person used 0.9 or 0.8 value for that radius. But I never
 understood why. Any idea?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Igor
 
 
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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 18/11/2013 10:44 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Lightroom 5.2 handles K-3 filees without any glitches,
but it does seem to take just a little longer importing the DNG's
than those of the K-5.


The files are something like 50% bigger.

bill


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Re: My F-50mm f/1.7 lens always disappoints

2013-11-19 Thread CollinB
It always surprises me how poorly this lens performs in terms of crispness
of focus.  Everything always comes out blurry unless I stop down severely.

...and then I remember the focus-adjust feature.  I haven't done that for
this lens on the K5 yet.

-10 points (!!) of correction later, it seems to nail the focus dead-on,
even at wide open.

What a pain in the rear - but I'm happy I have the option to sort it out,
rather than just having to give up!

 -Charles

The focus adjust is one reason I parted with my Kx to get my K5.
Without it I might as well use manual focus, and generally did so.
Now I like AF though on occasion, though rarer, I do still use MF.


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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Stan Halpin

On Nov 18, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 18/11/2013 8:02 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 Bill, I HAVE one of these cameras. :-D
 
 When I Import to Lr, the preview thumbnail grid shows generic DNG
 icons instead of the images, so I figured it wasn't about to work and
 I didn't want to hit OK than have to spend 30 minutes undoing the
 damage that usually ensues.
 
 I'l be brave and go for it.
 
 
 Ick. I hope I haven't steered you wrong.
 
 Nope, worked fine. Thanks!
 
 So, are you seeing image previews in Lr's Import dialogue then? Maybe
 I've botched some camera setting, though I can't imagine which.
 
 So far, my quick impression of the K-3: fantastic!
 My in-depth impression: fan-fucking-tastic!
 
 Tomorrow's going to be an intense day.
 

Bruce, as you've probably figured by now, it is likely just a file size issue. 
If I am patient enough, long enough, the usual LR import preview thumbnails 
begin to show up on the screen. If there are more than a few images it can take 
a very long time. I have been assuming this is a computer issue and have been 
biding my time until I can buy a newer faster computer with much more memory. 
Given how many other manufacturers are selling 24mb and larger cameras, LR must 
be able to handle the files...

stan


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Re: PESO: New Wildlife Refuge

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Attila. I intentionally ducked down some to clean up any background 
from the frame.
Appreciate your commenting..
 
Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: New Wildlife Refuge


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: 

 Learned of a different State Wildlife Refuge in these parts.

 All with the familiar K-5 w/DA 300 .

 Comments just fine.

 Thanks,

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=721

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=722

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=723


Mallard Pair is excellent! Also liked Blackbird Reeds, but would
prefer a slightly higher vantage point for that one.

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Re: PESO: New Wildlife Refuge

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Chris. Your remarks are much appreciated!

Jack
 
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Subject: Re: PESO: New Wildlife Refuge

I like Mallard pair a lot. They posed nicely for you. Blackbird Reeds
is good too - a bit unusual with that low angle.

Chris


On 18 November 2013 20:13, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Learned of a different State Wildlife Refuge in these parts.

 All with the familiar K-5 w/DA 300 .

 Comments just fine.

 Thanks,

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=721

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=722

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=723

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Re: PESO a little more of Alina [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Actually, I did use a reflector here: 4x12' white foamcore (made from
two sheets) positioned to camera left. If you look at that shot on my
Tumblr here,

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/67060737531

you should be able to make out the large vertical catchlight in her eyes.

I think what happened was I just had so much diffuse light flying
around reducing shadows too much. I have already done a little
dodge'n'burn on her face to bring back some definition, but meanwhile
Alina herself has done a much better edit which I'm probably going to
replace mine with. Her edit restores her normal facial structure and
some cosmetic tweaks (fuller hair).

Thank you, Bill.


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 15/11/2013 12:19 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 For those who enjoyed Alina in my last PESO and wanted to see a little
 more of her ...

 http://500px.com/photo/52201596

 Still tasteful I think, but be careful.

 Comments welcome.

 I like this one a lot, though I would have brought a reflector in to give
 her face a bit more shape.

 bill


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More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Darren Addy
Saw this thread on dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52547225

The guy has 3 year's experience with the K-5. His verdict is There is
more visible noise at high ISO starting ISO 640. K-5 shots looked
cleaner. But, man, cropping ability and details of K-3 on top of
faster and more reliable AF, including now working well enough AF.C,
are simply amazing. Also metering is much more accurate, handling
highlights very well.

Some good images of Birds In Flight (BIF) as examples.

I believe that this illustrates why Pentax could very easily come out
with a Full Frame DSLR that has the SAME MP as the K-3 and it would
still be a winner: Larger sensor sites would mean less noise (and
probably better high ISO performance) and so the FF image quality
would top the K-3 (for presumably more money). However, if Pentax
takes what they learned from making the K-3 (in terms of AF
performance, exposure system, high frame rate, and switchable AA) and
it would be a serious Home Run.

This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
body.

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Re: PESO Critical first cup

2013-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17/11/2013 6:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Posting inspired by Frank's French Pressed, this morning coffee image
 might be considered a bit continental too. [nsfw]

 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67311022128/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f4, 1/125th, ISO 400; window light.
 Lr + Ps.


 I love the light, you do realize she is giving you the finger don't you?

:-)

 This one unfortunately makes her look a bit more Rubenesque than most women
 like to be portrayed as. She is quite lovely. Have you found your muse?

 bill

Alina is proudly Rubenesque! She's an all-Greek, 160 pound, size 10,
curvy feminist who feels that more shape diversity in modelling is
needed and desirable. Check out her Model Mayhem profile:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/3197882

Sadly she's now back in Greece, so I'm presently museless. Workin' on
it though. Gotta get somebody in front of that new K-3 asap. :-)

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Re: PESO - Pick Up Your Toys

2013-11-19 Thread George Sinos
Thanks for looking everyone.  I was feeling sorry for these guys.  It
was the first really cold day of the winter. It was 12 degrees F when
I woke up, and the wind was in the 20-30 mph range.  That had to make
the work much more difficult.

gs
George Sinos

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www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On 11/18/2013 3:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



 On 11/18/2013 09:00, George Sinos wrote:

 One of our local businesses is expanding and some things need to be
 moved to make room.

 http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/11/18/pick-up-your-toys


 Nicely captioned :-)


 You don't see these things every day.

 gs

 You do if you live in New York... :-(

 ann


 You see more tower cranes around here. The boom cranes mainly come out for
 the initial erection of the towers and then move on to other jobs.


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At work

2013-11-19 Thread CollinB
Our shop machinist at work
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/10946339033/



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Re: OT Candice's take on moro rock

2013-11-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
It's all about the light! Nice work! And a manageable number to view.


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From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
Subject: OT Candice's take on moro rock

A few weeks ago, I posted my photos from moro rock on the road trip
Candice and I took.  Here are her shots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccmonty/sets/72157636995900064/


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Re: OT Candice's take on moro rock

2013-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Great stuff, Larry.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 A few weeks ago, I posted my photos from moro rock on the road trip
 Candice and I took.  Here are her shots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccmonty/sets/72157636995900064/


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Re: PESO - A Dog Ran Through It

2013-11-19 Thread John

On 11/19/2013 4:17 AM, Attila Boros wrote:

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:45 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:


I was shooting this fellow doing gymnastics at a bench in Trinity-Bellwoods Park here in 
Toronto. I didn't notice the intruder at all during the shoot however as I 
went through the photos I saw him:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/a-dog-ran-through-it.html?m=1

and it was to me the most interesting frame by far.


Nice park scene, I also like the couple in the background.



I bet it's their dog.

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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Saw this thread on dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52547225
 
 The guy has 3 year's experience with the K-5. His verdict is There is
 more visible noise at high ISO starting ISO 640. K-5 shots looked
 cleaner. But, man, cropping ability and details of K-3 on top of
 faster and more reliable AF, including now working well enough AF.C,
 are simply amazing. Also metering is much more accurate, handling
 highlights very well.
 
 Some good images of Birds In Flight (BIF) as examples.
 
 I believe that this illustrates why Pentax could very easily come out
 with a Full Frame DSLR that has the SAME MP as the K-3 and it would
 still be a winner: Larger sensor sites would mean less noise (and
 probably better high ISO performance) and so the FF image quality
 would top the K-3 (for presumably more money). However, if Pentax
 takes what they learned from making the K-3 (in terms of AF
 performance, exposure system, high frame rate, and switchable AA) and
 it would be a serious Home Run.
 
 This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
 pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
 now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
 body.
 

But there's no guarantee that there will be a full frame body. In fact, based 
on the lens roadmap, it seems unlikely. That's the fly in the ointment.

Paul


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Re: PESO - Park Avenue

2013-11-19 Thread Don Guthrie

Glad you made the second effort, A real you are there photograph  Keeper!

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:04:46 -0500
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Subject: PESO - Park Avenue
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Tried posting this last evening but it didn't go through.  Looking south from 
about 55th St:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597044


(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments?

Cheers,

Rick




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Re: My F-50mm f/1.7 lens always disappoints

2013-11-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 18, 2013, at 20:01 , Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:

 that was way out. sort of thing that in an earlier age I'd have sent to 
 service to get sorted out.
 

Yup, for sure. 

I got this lens used for something like $50 years and years ago, right after I 
got the istDS.  I've always thought that the focusing issues were due to the 
wide aperture, so this lens has always just sat unused and unloved.

What really kills me is that my manual focusing ability has gotten so poor 
(damned aging eyes) that I was rarely able to improve focus by going manual 
so it was tough to tell that it was something that could even be FIXED.

Happy now, though.

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Re: At work

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

 Our shop machinist at work
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/10946339033/

The machine is nicely exposed with good detail. I'd like to see more
of the man's face, I think taking one or two steps to the left would
have made it better. What is he holding? Looks like a flashlight.

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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 But there's no guarantee that there will be a full frame body. In fact, based 
 on the lens roadmap, it seems unlikely. That's the fly in the ointment.

I agree, with the current lens lineup a FF body wouldn't make sense.

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Re: PESO - Park Avenue

2013-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Most excellent, Rick.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Tried posting this last evening but it didn't go through.  Looking south from 
 about 55th St:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597044


 (K-5, DA 50-200)

 Comments?

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Re: PESO - A Dog Ran Through It

2013-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
A very happy accident makes for a fun shot. :-)

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:45 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was shooting this fellow doing gymnastics at a bench in Trinity-Bellwoods 
 Park here in Toronto. I didn't notice the intruder at all during the shoot 
 however as I went through the photos I saw him:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/a-dog-ran-through-it.html?m=1

 and it was to me the most interesting frame by far.

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Glass Ceiling

2013-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Gorgeous and detailed, Brian.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 'morning all...

 This is a detail shot of a glass chandelier (Fiori di Comoon by Dale
 Chihuly) the ceiling of the Bellagio casino in Las Vegas:

 http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1405-K5-1peso.html

 http://tinyurl.com/ml7kyhc

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Re: GESO - Bristlecone Pines

2013-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
I just love #6, Jostein. Beautiful landscapes.

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 http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/bristlecone-pines.html

 Six images from the park.

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Re: My F-50mm f/1.7 lens always disappoints

2013-11-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Charles,
Pentax 50mm f1.7 lenses have been sharp since the screwmount Takumar days.
The phrase could be 'Tak Sharp.'
I've never seen a bad sample, so you had other problems.
Glad you got them sorted!
(For those of you reading along at home, buy this lens used - its
common and cheap.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Nov 18, 2013, at 20:01 , Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:

 that was way out. sort of thing that in an earlier age I'd have sent to 
 service to get sorted out.


 Yup, for sure.

 I got this lens used for something like $50 years and years ago, right after 
 I got the istDS.  I've always thought that the focusing issues were due to 
 the wide aperture, so this lens has always just sat unused and unloved.

 What really kills me is that my manual focusing ability has gotten so poor 
 (damned aging eyes) that I was rarely able to improve focus by going manual 
 so it was tough to tell that it was something that could even be FIXED.

 Happy now, though.

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PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
A figure study.

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186

K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ F:2.2, 1/200th, ISO 400; Lr + Ps.

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Re: My F-50mm f/1.7 lens always disappoints

2013-11-19 Thread Zos Xavius
My 1.7 is my sharpest lens. I have an M 1.4 that is close, but not
quite as sharp. At F8 its pretty hard to tell the difference between
them. The bokeh on the 1.4 is of course much better though.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Charles,
 Pentax 50mm f1.7 lenses have been sharp since the screwmount Takumar days.
 The phrase could be 'Tak Sharp.'
 I've never seen a bad sample, so you had other problems.
 Glad you got them sorted!
 (For those of you reading along at home, buy this lens used - its
 common and cheap.)
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Nov 18, 2013, at 20:01 , Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:

 that was way out. sort of thing that in an earlier age I'd have sent to 
 service to get sorted out.


 Yup, for sure.

 I got this lens used for something like $50 years and years ago, right after 
 I got the istDS.  I've always thought that the focusing issues were due to 
 the wide aperture, so this lens has always just sat unused and unloved.

 What really kills me is that my manual focusing ability has gotten so poor 
 (damned aging eyes) that I was rarely able to improve focus by going 
 manual so it was tough to tell that it was something that could even be 
 FIXED.

 Happy now, though.

  -Charles

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Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Zos Xavius
Very nice! I'm really enjoying these Bruce! I think you should take up
nude portraiture because you are pretty good at it. And of course post
them all to here.. :)

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 A figure study.

 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ F:2.2, 1/200th, ISO 400; Lr + Ps.

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Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
that one is very nice - good light, she looks comfortable - tastefully 
done even if not safe for work :-)


And marketable, to be sure

ann

On 11/19/2013 13:53, Bruce Walker wrote:

A figure study.

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186

K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ F:2.2, 1/200th, ISO 400; Lr + Ps.

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Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
I agree, Ann. That one is very nice.


Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

that one is very nice - good light, she looks comfortable - tastefully 
done even if not safe for work :-)

And marketable, to be sure

ann


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 A figure study.

 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186

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Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 A figure study.

 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186

I like this very much. Tasteful and nicely done!

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Re: PESO - Park Avenue

2013-11-19 Thread knarf
Great shot! Perfect exposure, wonderful composition, very dynamic.

Cheers,
frank

Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Tried posting this last evening but it didn't go through.  Looking
south from about 55th St:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597044


(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments?

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Re: PESO - Pick Up Your Toys

2013-11-19 Thread knarf
As someone who has worked outside for many winters I can commiserate. The wind 
makes it worse and I can imagine that it must make the crane work especially 
hard.

Very good photo! 

Cheers,
frank

George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for looking everyone.  I was feeling sorry for these guys.  It
was the first really cold day of the winter. It was 12 degrees F when
I woke up, and the wind was in the 20-30 mph range.  That had to make
the work much more difficult.

gs
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On 11/18/2013 3:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



 On 11/18/2013 09:00, George Sinos wrote:

 One of our local businesses is expanding and some things need to be
 moved to make room.

 http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/11/18/pick-up-your-toys


 Nicely captioned :-)


 You don't see these things every day.

 gs

 You do if you live in New York... :-(

 ann


 You see more tower cranes around here. The boom cranes mainly come
out for
 the initial erection of the towers and then move on to other jobs.


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Comet ISON - might be visible

2013-11-19 Thread Igor Roshchin


For those PDMLers who like watching the sky: my colleague-astronomer just
informed that Comet ISON may become an easy naked eye
observation.

I am further quoting his message:
It is visible in the early morning near the star Spica, and is
about 5th magnitude. It seems to have had outbursts which has made the
nucleus get suddenly brighter. It probably will not be a great comet
with a huge tail, but we don't know yet.
A good source for the latest information is at the NASA site:
http://www.isoncampaign.org/Present  


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Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-19 Thread Igor Roshchin

Many thanks to all who responded!
Both the hint (Alt-) and the links are very helpful.

Igor


 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:40:50 -0500 (EST)
 From: Igor Roshchin 



 I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about
 this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose the Radius?

 Yes, I read in the guides this:
 Radius: Controls the size of the edges you wish to enhance, where a
 smaller radius enhances smaller-scale detail. You'll usually want a
 radius setting that is comparable to the size of the smallest detail
 within your image.

 But how do you practically determine that, say in LR? You cannot tell
 the difference if it is 0.9 or 1.1 pixels.

 Also, several years ago, I remember seeing an advice somewhere (possibly
 here), where a person used 0.9 or 0.8 value for that radius. But I never
 understood why. Any idea?

 Thanks,

 Igor


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Cheers Brian +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Brian Walters Australian Native Plants Society (Australia) http://anpsa.org.auRe: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:


On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:



This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
body.



But there's no guarantee that there will be a full frame body. In  
fact, based on the lens roadmap, it seems unlikely. That's the fly  
in the ointment.




Yes, but if they are working on a full frame body, they probably  
wouldn't put any planned full frame lenses on the roadmap because that  
would give the game away (if they are trying to keep FF development  
under wraps for whatever reason).


Just out of curiosity - Pentax obviously has design details for a  
range of FA lenses in their files.  How easy would it be to bring some  
of those back into production?



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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Brian Walters

H

Well, that was odd.

Not sure what happened to the subject line in my previous message.  A  
phantom copy and paste, perhaps  :-)




Cheers

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Quoting Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org:


Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:


On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:



This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
body.



But there's no guarantee that there will be a full frame body. In  
fact, based on the lens roadmap, it seems unlikely. That's the fly  
in the ointment.




Yes, but if they are working on a full frame body, they probably  
wouldn't put any planned full frame lenses on the roadmap because  
that would give the game away (if they are trying to keep FF  
development under wraps for whatever reason).


Just out of curiosity - Pentax obviously has design details for a  
range of FA lenses in their files.  How easy would it be to bring  
some of those back into production?



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K-3 launch non-report

2013-11-19 Thread Derby Chang


CR Kennedy put on a pleasant promotional yesterday afternoon to launch 
the K-3 here. Unfortunately, I only had time to stay for about 15min 
before heading off to the other side of the Quay. Sorry this isn't much 
of a report


The new limited lenses now have a red ring instead of green. Goes with 
the brand colour I suppose. The silver K-3 was in a plexiglass box so I 
didn't get to handle it, and there was an interesting bisected model in 
another box.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/twilight/index.html

My other date for the night

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/guillaume/index.html



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Re: Lr 4.4 and K-3 DNG support: is there any?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 7:52 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:



Bruce, as you've probably figured by now, it is likely just a file size issue.
If I am patient enough, long enough, the usual LR import preview 
thumbnails begin to show up on the screen.

If there are more than a few images it can take a very long time.
I have been assuming this is a computer issue and have been biding my 
time until I can buy a newer faster computer with much more memory.
Given how many other manufacturers are selling 24mb and larger cameras, 
LR must be able to handle the files...


stan


I built the machine I am running right now earlier this year. While I 
didn't get stoopid about specifications, I did do a very well specc'ed 
build. A higher than mid range  Gigabyte board with an Intel I7-3770K 
CPU, which was pushed at me as a very nice, very fast chip that would 
handle apps like Photoshop with alacrity. I combined this with 16GB of 
fast RAM and had two SSD hard drives installed, one being drive C, the 
other dedicated to swap files. Win7 64 was the OS I chose to run, and I 
have found it to be very stable and reliable as well.
The K3 DNG files are 30mb or more, and open up to in excess of 130mb. 
This is a lot of data for a computer to throughput, and for me has been 
the cause of one of the more major expenses when I upgrade a camera. I 
have either massively upgraded or bought a new computer practically 
every time I have bought a new camera.
I am hoping that the rumoured full frame camera that is supposed to 
appear next year doesn't cause this machine to kaak. The 645D DNGs are 
around 75mb, and 225mb opened, and they do slow this machine down 
noticably, though the K3 files are not terribly hard for it to handle.


Trying to open one of the K3 files on my isdD era laptop last night was 
quite funny. While they opened just fine, it took a couple of minutes 
for the machine to chew through them.


bill


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Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Derby Chang


I like this classic pose. I would have liked the shot taken slightly to 
the left, to make her profile more tonally separated from the dark wall.


This is a good series


On 20/11/2013 5:53 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

A figure study.

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186

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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
We, in northern CA, just experienced a short power failure at 12:05 PM. Lasted 
perhaps 4 min's.

- Original Message -
From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

H

Well, that was odd.

Not sure what happened to the subject line in my previous message.  A  
phantom copy and paste, perhaps  :-)



Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org:

 Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:

 On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:


 This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
 pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
 now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
 body.


 But there's no guarantee that there will be a full frame body. In  
 fact, based on the lens roadmap, it seems unlikely. That's the fly  
 in the ointment.



 Yes, but if they are working on a full frame body, they probably  
 wouldn't put any planned full frame lenses on the roadmap because  
 that would give the game away (if they are trying to keep FF  
 development under wraps for whatever reason).

 Just out of curiosity - Pentax obviously has design details for a  
 range of FA lenses in their files.  How easy would it be to bring  
 some of those back into production?


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Re: K-3 launch non-report

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 3:09 PM, Derby Chang wrote:


CR Kennedy put on a pleasant promotional yesterday afternoon to launch
the K-3 here. Unfortunately, I only had time to stay for about 15min
before heading off to the other side of the Quay. Sorry this isn't much
of a report

The new limited lenses now have a red ring instead of green. Goes with
the brand colour I suppose. The silver K-3 was in a plexiglass box so I
didn't get to handle it, and there was an interesting bisected model in
another box.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/twilight/index.html

My other date for the night

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/guillaume/index.html




Damn, you look like you have a nice life.

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Re: K-3 launch non-report

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/11/13, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

Damn, you look like you have a nice life.

Bastard does, doesn't he.

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PESO - Entering the Desert

2013-11-19 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne

From a viewpoint at the descent into Death Valley.

http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/entering-deserts.html

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Re: PESO - Glass Ceiling

2013-11-19 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:

I guess I should have sent you the address of my favorite Mexican  
Restaurant off the strip - THAT you would have enjoyed.



Yes, *that* would have been useful! We dined at Bellagio (or should I  
say 'over-dined').  I love the way the casino located the buffet area  
at the far end of the building so that you had to walk past all of the  
gaming tables to get there





I don't think that chandelier was in the Bellagio in the early 90's
I'd have remembered it - looks like jellyfish.



Are you sure you were at Bellagio?  According to Wikipedia (which is  
never wrong...) Bellagio (and the chandelier) opened in 1998.



Cheers

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On 11/18/2013 16:06, Brian Walters wrote:

'morning all...

This is a detail shot of a glass chandelier (Fiori di Comoon by Dale
Chihuly) the ceiling of the Bellagio casino in Las Vegas:

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1405-K5-1peso.html


http://tinyurl.com/ml7kyhc

It was about the only thing I enjoyed in Las Vegas






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Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/11/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

A figure study.

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186

K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ F:2.2, 1/200th, ISO 400; Lr + Ps.

Comments welcome!

I really like that. For obvious reasons, and perhaps not so obvious reasons.

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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:

We, in northern CA, just experienced a short power failure at 12:05  
PM. Lasted perhaps 4 min's.



Are you blaming me??

:-)


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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

H

Well, that was odd.

Not sure what happened to the subject line in my previous  
message.nbsp; Anbsp;

phantom copy and paste, perhapsnbsp; :-)





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Re: GESO - Bristlecone Pines

2013-11-19 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne

Thanks for commenting, Ann, Jack, Frank, Attila and Bruce W.
Glad to see you have different favourites.

Jostein

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http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/bristlecone-pines.html

Six images from the park.

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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 9:10 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

Saw this thread on dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52547225

The guy has 3 year's experience with the K-5. His verdict is There is
more visible noise at high ISO starting ISO 640. K-5 shots looked
cleaner. But, man, cropping ability and details of K-3 on top of
faster and more reliable AF, including now working well enough AF.C,
are simply amazing. Also metering is much more accurate, handling
highlights very well.

Some good images of Birds In Flight (BIF) as examples.

I believe that this illustrates why Pentax could very easily come out
with a Full Frame DSLR that has the SAME MP as the K-3 and it would
still be a winner: Larger sensor sites would mean less noise (and
probably better high ISO performance) and so the FF image quality
would top the K-3 (for presumably more money). However, if Pentax
takes what they learned from making the K-3 (in terms of AF
performance, exposure system, high frame rate, and switchable AA) and
it would be a serious Home Run.

This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
body.

At base ISO, the K3 is as good as the K5, and one of the first things I 
noticed is how much nicer the K3 files are to work with in my 
environment (YMMV). In the studio K3 files are as nice as the K7 files. 
I didn't like the look that I got from the K5 as much as the K7 in terms 
of flesh tone rendering.
That my K5 had useless AF didn't enamor it to me either. The K3 is 
certainly a big upgrade over the K5 on many, many levels. The K5II is 
what the K5 should have been except for the bozoness of Hoya, and I 
expect the K3 is more of an MP upgrade than anything else.
Anyone using any of the K5 emulations would do well to consider the K3, 
unless there is no or minimal investment in small image circle lenses. 
I'm OK that way, I have a good selection of each, but someone who buys a 
FF camera does need to think about the new glass he might need if he is 
changing format from APS-C.


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Re: PESO - Glass Ceiling

2013-11-19 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com:


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Brian Walters
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:


'morning all...

This is a detail shot of a glass chandelier (Fiori di Comoon by Dale
Chihuly) the ceiling of the Bellagio casino in Las Vegas:

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1405-K5-1peso.html

http://tinyurl.com/ml7kyhc


Nice colors. I'd like to see the whole thing.



It was about the only thing I enjoyed in Las Vegas


What? No games?




You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run

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Re: OT Candice's take on moro rock

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 10:39 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Great stuff, Larry.


She's got a better eye than Larry does, actually.
Sorry Larry.

bill




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A few weeks ago, I posted my photos from moro rock on the road trip
Candice and I took.  Here are her shots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccmonty/sets/72157636995900064/



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Re: PESO - Entering the Desert

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Jostein, I'd like to see this shot with only the one light trail, that of the 
slightly brighter headlights moving from right to left


Jack
 
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From a viewpoint at the descent into Death Valley.
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/entering-deserts.html

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Re: OT Candice's take on moro rock

2013-11-19 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne

She had a good take on that rock!
Jostein

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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:32 AM
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Subject: OT Candice's take on moro rock

A few weeks ago, I posted my photos from moro rock on the road trip
Candice and I took.  Here are her shots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccmonty/sets/72157636995900064/


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Re: PESO - Entering the Desert

2013-11-19 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne



-Opprinnelig melding- 
From: Jack Davis 
Jostein, I'd like to see this shot with only the one 
light trail, that of the slightly brighter headlights 
moving from right to left


That would be a clone job from hell... :-)

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PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
Sad cat news

Our VERY old silver tabby, Minnie, passed away last night, peacefully
and in no pain after an amazingly long life - seeing in both the berth
of our son, Stefan, and his departure for university. Will be rifling
the archives for the Mrs in due course, here's one that came easily to
hand for a PESO. Shot a couple of years ago, can't remember the camera
or lens, but it does what it says on the tin.

http://peso.posthaven.com/peso-rip-minnie-1992-2013

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Re: OT Candice's take on moro rock

2013-11-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 03:28:05PM -0600, Bill wrote:
 On 19/11/2013 10:39 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Great stuff, Larry.
 
 She's got a better eye than Larry does, actually.

There are a lot of her parts that are better than mine, actually.

 Sorry Larry.

Nothing to be sorry about, she definitely got better shots than
I did on that trip. While I was clamboring over rocks to get 
to the end of the spit and trying to take panoramas, she was
staying someplace more accessible and getting better shots.

 
 bill
 
 
 
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 A few weeks ago, I posted my photos from moro rock on the road trip
 Candice and I took.  Here are her shots:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ccmonty/sets/72157636995900064/
 
 
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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Zos Xavius
Interesting. I guess I'm not alone in preferring the out of the box
skin tones of the k-7 vs the k-5. Sometimes for skin tones the
embedded profile on the k-5 is better FWIW. In fact the embedded
profile is better for the k-5 than it was th the k-7. Just an opinion.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 19/11/2013 9:10 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Saw this thread on dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52547225

 The guy has 3 year's experience with the K-5. His verdict is There is
 more visible noise at high ISO starting ISO 640. K-5 shots looked
 cleaner. But, man, cropping ability and details of K-3 on top of
 faster and more reliable AF, including now working well enough AF.C,
 are simply amazing. Also metering is much more accurate, handling
 highlights very well.

 Some good images of Birds In Flight (BIF) as examples.

 I believe that this illustrates why Pentax could very easily come out
 with a Full Frame DSLR that has the SAME MP as the K-3 and it would
 still be a winner: Larger sensor sites would mean less noise (and
 probably better high ISO performance) and so the FF image quality
 would top the K-3 (for presumably more money). However, if Pentax
 takes what they learned from making the K-3 (in terms of AF
 performance, exposure system, high frame rate, and switchable AA) and
 it would be a serious Home Run.

 This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
 pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
 now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
 body.

 At base ISO, the K3 is as good as the K5, and one of the first things I
 noticed is how much nicer the K3 files are to work with in my environment
 (YMMV). In the studio K3 files are as nice as the K7 files. I didn't like
 the look that I got from the K5 as much as the K7 in terms of flesh tone
 rendering.
 That my K5 had useless AF didn't enamor it to me either. The K3 is certainly
 a big upgrade over the K5 on many, many levels. The K5II is what the K5
 should have been except for the bozoness of Hoya, and I expect the K3 is
 more of an MP upgrade than anything else.
 Anyone using any of the K5 emulations would do well to consider the K3,
 unless there is no or minimal investment in small image circle lenses. I'm
 OK that way, I have a good selection of each, but someone who buys a FF
 camera does need to think about the new glass he might need if he is
 changing format from APS-C.

 bill


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Re: PESO - Entering the Desert

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Well, at the risk of feeling your wrath, I downloaded the image and made a 
couple short movements with the clone tool and it was done

I'll delete it right now and NEVER do such a thing again or send it to you off 
list...and then, never do it again.
To me it's a bit cleaner and  says more ..alone and moving away from lighted 
civilization.

Jack.

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-Opprinnelig melding- 
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 Jostein, I'd like to see this shot with only the one 
 light trail, that of the slightly brighter headlights 
 moving from right to left

That would be a clone job from hell... :-) 


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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Miserere
I'm glad to see that after a long absence you guys are still debating Pentax 
FF. It's like I never left!

Sign me up for not buying the definitely for sure (really this time it is) 
up-coming FF. I'll continue to slum it with my APS-C equipment :-)

Cheers,

--M.


Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Saw this thread on dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52547225
 
 The guy has 3 year's experience with the K-5. His verdict is There
is
 more visible noise at high ISO starting ISO 640. K-5 shots looked
 cleaner. But, man, cropping ability and details of K-3 on top of
 faster and more reliable AF, including now working well enough AF.C,
 are simply amazing. Also metering is much more accurate, handling
 highlights very well.
 
 Some good images of Birds In Flight (BIF) as examples.
 
 I believe that this illustrates why Pentax could very easily come out
 with a Full Frame DSLR that has the SAME MP as the K-3 and it would
 still be a winner: Larger sensor sites would mean less noise (and
 probably better high ISO performance) and so the FF image quality
 would top the K-3 (for presumably more money). However, if Pentax
 takes what they learned from making the K-3 (in terms of AF
 performance, exposure system, high frame rate, and switchable AA) and
 it would be a serious Home Run.
 
 This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
 pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
 now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
 body.
 

But there's no guarantee that there will be a full frame body. In fact,
based on the lens roadmap, it seems unlikely. That's the fly in the
ointment.

Paul


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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Darren Addy
Welcome back, Miserere!


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm glad to see that after a long absence you guys are still debating Pentax 
 FF. It's like I never left!

 Sign me up for not buying the definitely for sure (really this time it is) 
 up-coming FF. I'll continue to slum it with my APS-C equipment :-)

 Cheers,

 --M.


 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Saw this thread on dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52547225

 The guy has 3 year's experience with the K-5. His verdict is There
is
 more visible noise at high ISO starting ISO 640. K-5 shots looked
 cleaner. But, man, cropping ability and details of K-3 on top of
 faster and more reliable AF, including now working well enough AF.C,
 are simply amazing. Also metering is much more accurate, handling
 highlights very well.

 Some good images of Birds In Flight (BIF) as examples.

 I believe that this illustrates why Pentax could very easily come out
 with a Full Frame DSLR that has the SAME MP as the K-3 and it would
 still be a winner: Larger sensor sites would mean less noise (and
 probably better high ISO performance) and so the FF image quality
 would top the K-3 (for presumably more money). However, if Pentax
 takes what they learned from making the K-3 (in terms of AF
 performance, exposure system, high frame rate, and switchable AA) and
 it would be a serious Home Run.

 This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
 pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
 now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
 body.


But there's no guarantee that there will be a full frame body. In fact,
based on the lens roadmap, it seems unlikely. That's the fly in the
ointment.

Paul


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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 3:55 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

Interesting. I guess I'm not alone in preferring the out of the box
skin tones of the k-7 vs the k-5. Sometimes for skin tones the
embedded profile on the k-5 is better FWIW. In fact the embedded
profile is better for the k-5 than it was th the k-7. Just an opinion.



I was never able to get a K5 file that I liked as much as the K7 in my 
studio work. Something about the sensor sensitivity just made the K7 
work better for me. John Francis found it was more red sensitive, I 
suspect that is the difference.


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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Darren Addy
Condolences on the loss of your feline family member.
That's a lovely portrait with very pleasing rendering. I'm sure she
was spoiled rotten.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 Sad cat news

 Our VERY old silver tabby, Minnie, passed away last night, peacefully
 and in no pain after an amazingly long life - seeing in both the berth
 of our son, Stefan, and his departure for university. Will be rifling
 the archives for the Mrs in due course, here's one that came easily to
 hand for a PESO. Shot a couple of years ago, can't remember the camera
 or lens, but it does what it says on the tin.

 http://peso.posthaven.com/peso-rip-minnie-1992-2013

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Re: OT Candice's take on moro rock

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 3:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 03:28:05PM -0600, Bill wrote:

On 19/11/2013 10:39 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Great stuff, Larry.


She's got a better eye than Larry does, actually.


There are a lot of her parts that are better than mine, actually.


Sorry Larry.


Nothing to be sorry about, she definitely got better shots than
I did on that trip. While I was clamboring over rocks to get
to the end of the spit and trying to take panoramas, she was
staying someplace more accessible and getting better shots.



My wife used to do that to me. I'd be out someplace putting myself in no 
small amount of peril shooting with the 4x5 and taking crap pictures, 
she'd be hanging out someplace with the Annoying Little Dog (TM) taking 
much better pictures with her Zoom70.


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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm glad to see that after a long absence you guys are still debating Pentax 
 FF. It's like I never left!

 Sign me up for not buying the definitely for sure (really this time it is) 
 up-coming FF. I'll continue to slum it with my APS-C equipment :-)

Me too, APS-C is perfectly fine for me. We were just discussing
probabilities. Strictly scientifically speaking of course :)

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PESO - Patience

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
A junco awaits his turn at the feeder. K-3 and DA*60-250, ISO 800, 5.6 @ 
1/125th. Cropped to about 60% of frame.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17604913size=lg
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Power Failure Swarm

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
We've been having a series of house power failures for about the last hour or 
so. Have quit resetting the clocks.
Hope I'm not missing anything..
 
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Re: PESO - Patience

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Nice detail, Paul. What is your take on the relative noise?

Jack
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A junco awaits his turn at the feeder. K-3 and DA*60-250, ISO 800, 5.6 @ 
1/125th. Cropped to about 60% of frame.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17604913size=lg
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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I grew to dislike the K-7. Hard to deal with the noise, even at ISO 400. 
Tonality was never a problem for me with the K-5. I usually tweak the image to 
display the pallet I want anyway. I didn't do a lot of studio shooting with the 
K-5, but I did do one major job, shooting about a dozen portraits each of a 
dozen consulting firm execs. I was surprised to see that I missed focus on four 
or five of the approximate 150 frames. It seemed inexplicable, but I attributed 
it to simple incompetence -- which may well have been the case. 

Paul

Paul
On Nov 19, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting. I guess I'm not alone in preferring the out of the box
 skin tones of the k-7 vs the k-5. Sometimes for skin tones the
 embedded profile on the k-5 is better FWIW. In fact the embedded
 profile is better for the k-5 than it was th the k-7. Just an opinion.
 
 On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 19/11/2013 9:10 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
 
 Saw this thread on dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52547225
 
 The guy has 3 year's experience with the K-5. His verdict is There is
 more visible noise at high ISO starting ISO 640. K-5 shots looked
 cleaner. But, man, cropping ability and details of K-3 on top of
 faster and more reliable AF, including now working well enough AF.C,
 are simply amazing. Also metering is much more accurate, handling
 highlights very well.
 
 Some good images of Birds In Flight (BIF) as examples.
 
 I believe that this illustrates why Pentax could very easily come out
 with a Full Frame DSLR that has the SAME MP as the K-3 and it would
 still be a winner: Larger sensor sites would mean less noise (and
 probably better high ISO performance) and so the FF image quality
 would top the K-3 (for presumably more money). However, if Pentax
 takes what they learned from making the K-3 (in terms of AF
 performance, exposure system, high frame rate, and switchable AA) and
 it would be a serious Home Run.
 
 This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners could
 pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the K-3
 now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
 body.
 
 At base ISO, the K3 is as good as the K5, and one of the first things I
 noticed is how much nicer the K3 files are to work with in my environment
 (YMMV). In the studio K3 files are as nice as the K7 files. I didn't like
 the look that I got from the K5 as much as the K7 in terms of flesh tone
 rendering.
 That my K5 had useless AF didn't enamor it to me either. The K3 is certainly
 a big upgrade over the K5 on many, many levels. The K5II is what the K5
 should have been except for the bozoness of Hoya, and I expect the K3 is
 more of an MP upgrade than anything else.
 Anyone using any of the K5 emulations would do well to consider the K3,
 unless there is no or minimal investment in small image circle lenses. I'm
 OK that way, I have a good selection of each, but someone who buys a FF
 camera does need to think about the new glass he might need if he is
 changing format from APS-C.
 
 bill
 
 
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Re: PESO - Entering the Desert

2013-11-19 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
You're probably right about the websized image. I wouldn't want to do it on 
the 645D raw file tho... :-)

Here's a 1:1 crop:
http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/PESO/20131105-0006-webframe-2.jpg

Jostein

-Opprinnelig melding- 
From: Jack Davis

Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:00 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Entering the Desert

Well, at the risk of feeling your wrath, I downloaded the image and made a 
couple short movements with the clone tool and it was done


I'll delete it right now and NEVER do such a thing again or send it to you 
off list...and then, never do it again.
To me it's a bit cleaner and  says more ..alone and moving away from 
lighted civilization.


Jack.

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-Opprinnelig melding- 
From: Jack Davis

Jostein, I'd like to see this shot with only the one
light trail, that of the slightly brighter headlights
moving from right to left


That would be a clone job from hell... :-)


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Re: PESO - Patience

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't have a firm grasp of the difference in noise level. I'll leave that 
determination to those who test.  It's certainly very close. I've shot quite a 
few frames at 1250, and they're just fine. Fooled around a bit at 12,800, and 
the noise seemed similar to the K-5. I'll probably shoot some pool tournaments 
again this winter. Those will be at 12,800.

Paul

On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Nice detail, Paul. What is your take on the relative noise?
 
 Jack
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 Subject: PESO - Patience
 
 A junco awaits his turn at the feeder. K-3 and DA*60-250, ISO 800, 5.6 @ 
 1/125th. Cropped to about 60% of frame.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17604913size=lg
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Re: Power Failure Swarm

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We've been having a series of house power failures for about the last hour or 
 so. Have quit resetting the clocks.
 Hope I'm not missing anything..

While you were gone Pentax introduced a 40 megapixel full frame camera and five 
new lenses, then abruptly canceled the entire package.  

Paul


  
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Re: OT Candice's take on moro rock

2013-11-19 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 04:11:54PM -0600, Bill wrote:
 On 19/11/2013 3:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 03:28:05PM -0600, Bill wrote:
 On 19/11/2013 10:39 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Great stuff, Larry.
 
 She's got a better eye than Larry does, actually.
 
 There are a lot of her parts that are better than mine, actually.
 
 Sorry Larry.
 
 Nothing to be sorry about, she definitely got better shots than
 I did on that trip. While I was clamboring over rocks to get
 to the end of the spit and trying to take panoramas, she was
 staying someplace more accessible and getting better shots.
 
 
 My wife used to do that to me. I'd be out someplace putting myself
 in no small amount of peril shooting with the 4x5 and taking crap
 pictures, she'd be hanging out someplace with the Annoying Little
 Dog (TM) taking much better pictures with her Zoom70.

I hear you.

The best photograph we've got from our stop-over in Hawaii in 1979
wasn't one of mine from the MX (or the ME I was using as a second
body) - it was one my wife took on her point-and-shoot instamatic.

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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Miserere

Thanks, Darren! I really missed these edifying discussions on FF vs APS-C ;-)

Cheers,

--M.


Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Welcome back, Miserere!


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm glad to see that after a long absence you guys are still debating
Pentax FF. It's like I never left!

 Sign me up for not buying the definitely for sure (really this time
it is) up-coming FF. I'll continue to slum it with my APS-C equipment
:-)

 Cheers,

 --M.


 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Saw this thread on dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52547225

 The guy has 3 year's experience with the K-5. His verdict is There
is
 more visible noise at high ISO starting ISO 640. K-5 shots looked
 cleaner. But, man, cropping ability and details of K-3 on top of
 faster and more reliable AF, including now working well enough
AF.C,
 are simply amazing. Also metering is much more accurate, handling
 highlights very well.

 Some good images of Birds In Flight (BIF) as examples.

 I believe that this illustrates why Pentax could very easily come
out
 with a Full Frame DSLR that has the SAME MP as the K-3 and it would
 still be a winner: Larger sensor sites would mean less noise (and
 probably better high ISO performance) and so the FF image quality
 would top the K-3 (for presumably more money). However, if Pentax
 takes what they learned from making the K-3 (in terms of AF
 performance, exposure system, high frame rate, and switchable AA)
and
 it would be a serious Home Run.

 This is the main reason that I think that K-5 and K-5ii owners
could
 pretty easily wait for the FF in 2014, rather than hopping on the
K-3
 now. Think of it as putting $1299 towards your eventual full frame
 body.


But there's no guarantee that there will be a full frame body. In
fact,
based on the lens roadmap, it seems unlikely. That's the fly in the
ointment.

Paul


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Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Stan Halpin

On Nov 19, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 A figure study.
 
 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186
 
 K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ F:2.2, 1/200th, ISO 400; Lr + Ps.
 
 Comments welcome!
 
 -- 
 -bmw
 
Nice. But I have one minor quibble - the purple coloration in the hair is 
distracting for me. It draws my attention and makes me wonder whether this is 
intentional or an artifact? The actual color of her hair or a by-product of the 
set-up? I am pretty sure I know the answers, but still find it a distraction...

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RE: Power Failure Swarm

2013-11-19 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis

 Hope I'm not missing anything..
  

This is the PDML, Jack. It's the internet adaptation of Last Year in
Marienbad.

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RE: PESO - Entering the Desert

2013-11-19 Thread Bob W
fantastic. 

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 Sent: 19 November 2013 21:20
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 Subject: PESO - Entering the Desert
 
 From a viewpoint at the descent into Death Valley.
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/entering-deserts.html
 
 Jostein
 
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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 Sad cat news

Our hearts are with you. Still, 21 years is quite amazing. We've lost
one of our two cats at only 15 years and totally out of the blue, four
weeks ago. And the other one, now aged 16, is visibly ageing as well.  

Lets be thankful for all the love and affection they've given us in
their life. 

We've just welcomed the first one of what is our third generation:

http://www.fotoralf.be/temp/D-13-02973-1.jpg

Ralf

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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Darren Addy
The cat is cute but LOVE the radio. Would you mind telling me about it?

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 Sad cat news

 Our hearts are with you. Still, 21 years is quite amazing. We've lost
 one of our two cats at only 15 years and totally out of the blue, four
 weeks ago. And the other one, now aged 16, is visibly ageing as well.

 Lets be thankful for all the love and affection they've given us in
 their life.

 We've just welcomed the first one of what is our third generation:

 http://www.fotoralf.be/temp/D-13-02973-1.jpg

 Ralf

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RE: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Bob W
forget the radio, look at the doily. Ralph lives in 1953.

B 

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 Sent: 19 November 2013 22:54
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 Subject: Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013
 
 The cat is cute but LOVE the radio. Would you mind telling me 
 about it?
 
 On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher 
 fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
  Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
  Sad cat news
 
  Our hearts are with you. Still, 21 years is quite amazing. 
 We've lost 
  one of our two cats at only 15 years and totally out of the 
 blue, four 
  weeks ago. And the other one, now aged 16, is visibly 
 ageing as well.
 
  Lets be thankful for all the love and affection they've given us in 
  their life.
 
  We've just welcomed the first one of what is our third generation:
 
  http://www.fotoralf.be/temp/D-13-02973-1.jpg
 
  Ralf
 
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RE: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Bob W

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin

 
  A figure study.
  
  http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186
  
  
 Nice. But I have one minor quibble - the purple coloration in 
 the hair is distracting for me. It draws my attention and 
 makes me wonder whether this is intentional or an artifact? 
 The actual color of her hair or a by-product of the set-up? I 
 am pretty sure I know the answers, but still find it a distraction...
 

pretty easy to figure out her natural hair colour, Stan.

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Re: PESO - Patience

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
That pool room lighting does bring it out a bit.

Thanks, Paul.
 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Patience

I don't have a firm grasp of the difference in noise level. I'll leave that 
determination to those who test.  It's certainly very close. I've shot quite a 
few frames at 1250, and they're just fine. Fooled around a bit at 12,800, and 
the noise seemed similar to the K-5. I'll probably shoot some pool tournaments 
again this winter. Those will be at 12,800.

Paul

On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Nice detail, Paul. What is your take on the relative noise?
 
 Jack
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 A junco awaits his turn at the feeder. K-3 and DA*60-250, ISO 800, 5.6 @ 
 1/125th. Cropped to about 60% of frame.
 
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Re: PESO - Entering the Desert

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Nor would I, Jostein. On the one you posted, I simply made one short clone tool 
streak over the second thin cross light streak.
Sorry, if I took an intrusive liberty with your image. It will be deleted as 
soon as I send this. I very much like the idea of it.

Jack

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You're probably right about the websized image. I wouldn't want to do it on 
the 645D raw file tho... :-)
Here's a 1:1 crop:
http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/PESO/20131105-0006-webframe-2.jpg

Jostein

-Opprinnelig melding- 
From: Jack Davis
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:00 PM
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Well, at the risk of feeling your wrath, I downloaded the image and made a 
couple short movements with the clone tool and it was done

I'll delete it right now and NEVER do such a thing again or send it to you 
off list...and then, never do it again.
To me it's a bit cleaner and  says more ..alone and moving away from 
lighted civilization.

Jack.

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-Opprinnelig melding- 
From: Jack Davis
 Jostein, I'd like to see this shot with only the one
 light trail, that of the slightly brighter headlights
 moving from right to left

That would be a clone job from hell... :-)


Jostein

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Re: Power Failure Swarm

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
You say it was priced at $19.95 for the first hour. .
That's about the length of this last outage...SHUCKS!!

Jack
 
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On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We've been having a series of house power failures for about the last hour or 
 so. Have quit resetting the clocks.
 Hope I'm not missing anything..

While you were gone Pentax introduced a 40 megapixel full frame camera and five 
new lenses, then abruptly canceled the entire package.  

Paul 



  
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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Bill

On 19/11/2013 4:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I grew to dislike the K-7. Hard to deal with the noise, even at ISO
400. Tonality was never a problem for me with the K-5. I usually
tweak the image to display the pallet I want anyway. I didn't do a
lot of studio shooting with the K-5, but I did do one major job,
shooting about a dozen portraits each of a dozen consulting firm
execs. I was surprised to see that I missed focus on four or five of
the approximate 150 frames. It seemed inexplicable, but I attributed
it to simple incompetence -- which may well have been the case.


The K7 was well nigh unusable above 400, but at base was as good as 
anything out there. I was never fond of the coolness of the K5 files, 
when I tweaked them to get a flesh tone I liked, something else was 
wrong. The colour of the K3 seems closer to the rendering of the K7, 
which pleases me greatly.
Your focus problem was likely the same problem my K5 had, just not as 
severe.


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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My condolences. That's a ripe old age for a cat, hope I get to live so long in 
relative time without pain etc.. Give my best to Alma. 

Godfrey


 On Nov 19, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Sad cat news
 
 Our VERY old silver tabby, Minnie, passed away last night, peacefully
 and in no pain after an amazingly long life - seeing in both the berth
 of our son, Stefan, and his departure for university. Will be rifling
 the archives for the Mrs in due course, here's one that came easily to
 hand for a PESO. Shot a couple of years ago, can't remember the camera
 or lens, but it does what it says on the tin.
 
 http://peso.posthaven.com/peso-rip-minnie-1992-2013

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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 look at the doily. 

Now, that one I've just had to look up. 

@Darren:
The radio is a German Saba valve superhet built in 1938. Got it at a
pawn shop, some 25 years ago. Changed all the paper/tar capacitors
recently and it's working fine again and should now be good for another
75 years. The only trouble is that European broadcasters are shutting
down their long and medium wave transmitters at an alarming rate and the
AM bands are now almost dead by daytime, save for two or three stations.

The radio and the doily (Ralf's new word of the day) are on top of my
grandmother's sewing machine, circa 1927. 

Ralf

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Re: Power Failure Swarm

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Oh..OK operating normally then?

Jack
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 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis 


 Hope I'm not missing anything..
  

This is the PDML, Jack. It's the internet adaptation of Last Year in
Marienbad.

B


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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Sent this earlier Cotty, but guess it got shot down by one of out numerous 
power outages.
Absolutely beautiful photo of Minnie. I share your sorrow. Sorry.

Jack

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Subject: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

Sad cat news

Our VERY old silver tabby, Minnie, passed away last night, peacefully
and in no pain after an amazingly long life - seeing in both the berth
of our son, Stefan, and his departure for university. Will be rifling
the archives for the Mrs in due course, here's one that came easily to
hand for a PESO. Shot a couple of years ago, can't remember the camera
or lens, but it does what it says on the tin.

http://peso.posthaven.com/peso-rip-minnie-1992-2013

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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good looking kitty. My condolences,

Paul via phone

 On Nov 19, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 Sad cat news
 
 Our VERY old silver tabby, Minnie, passed away last night, peacefully
 and in no pain after an amazingly long life - seeing in both the berth
 of our son, Stefan, and his departure for university. Will be rifling
 the archives for the Mrs in due course, here's one that came easily to
 hand for a PESO. Shot a couple of years ago, can't remember the camera
 or lens, but it does what it says on the tin.
 
 http://peso.posthaven.com/peso-rip-minnie-1992-2013
 
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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Darren Addy
It would appear to be this Saba model:
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/saba_455wk_455_wk.html
from 1938/1939. Awesome!

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 forget the radio, look at the doily. Ralph lives in 1953.

 B

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 The cat is cute but LOVE the radio. Would you mind telling me
 about it?

 On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher
 fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
  Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
  Sad cat news
 
  Our hearts are with you. Still, 21 years is quite amazing.
 We've lost
  one of our two cats at only 15 years and totally out of the
 blue, four
  weeks ago. And the other one, now aged 16, is visibly
 ageing as well.
 
  Lets be thankful for all the love and affection they've given us in
  their life.
 
  We've just welcomed the first one of what is our third generation:
 
  http://www.fotoralf.be/temp/D-13-02973-1.jpg
 
  Ralf
 
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Re: PESO - RIP Minnie 1992-2013

2013-11-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 09:48:01PM +, Steve Cottrell wrote:
 Sad cat news
 
 Our VERY old silver tabby, Minnie, passed away last night, peacefully

My condolences.  It's always tough to lose a member of the family.

 and in no pain after an amazingly long life - seeing in both the berth
 of our son, Stefan, 

I always thought he must be a little dinghy.

 and his departure for university. Will be rifling
 the archives for the Mrs in due course, here's one that came easily to
 hand for a PESO. Shot a couple of years ago, can't remember the camera
 or lens, but it does what it says on the tin.
 
 http://peso.posthaven.com/peso-rip-minnie-1992-2013
 
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Re: More K-3 BIF: more noise, but more detail

2013-11-19 Thread Zos Xavius
Its not you. The K-5 misses focus. I often focus and recompoe a couple
of times to make sure I have a shot. Especially in low light. Stopping
down gives a margin of error too.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 19/11/2013 4:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I grew to dislike the K-7. Hard to deal with the noise, even at ISO
 400. Tonality was never a problem for me with the K-5. I usually
 tweak the image to display the pallet I want anyway. I didn't do a
 lot of studio shooting with the K-5, but I did do one major job,
 shooting about a dozen portraits each of a dozen consulting firm
 execs. I was surprised to see that I missed focus on four or five of
 the approximate 150 frames. It seemed inexplicable, but I attributed
 it to simple incompetence -- which may well have been the case.


 The K7 was well nigh unusable above 400, but at base was as good as anything
 out there. I was never fond of the coolness of the K5 files, when I tweaked
 them to get a flesh tone I liked, something else was wrong. The colour of
 the K3 seems closer to the rendering of the K7, which pleases me greatly.
 Your focus problem was likely the same problem my K5 had, just not as
 severe.


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Re: PESO - Park Avenue

2013-11-19 Thread Richard Womer
Thanks Frank, Bruce x2, Attila, Don, John, Chris, Ann, and Paul for your 
appreciative comments!

The biggest challenge in shooting that pic was paying attention to the traffic 
light so I didn't get run over.

Cheers,

Rick

On Nov 19, 2013, at 15:47 , knarf wrote:

 Great shot! Perfect exposure, wonderful composition, very dynamic.
 
 Cheers,
 frank
 
 Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Tried posting this last evening but it didn't go through.  Looking
 south from about 55th St:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597044
 
 
 (K-5, DA 50-200)
 
 Comments?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: PESO Nude standing in doorway [nsfw]

2013-11-19 Thread Stan Halpin
On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Bob W wrote:

 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
 
 
 A figure study.
 
 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/67482165186
 
 
 Nice. But I have one minor quibble - the purple coloration in 
 the hair is distracting for me. It draws my attention and 
 makes me wonder whether this is intentional or an artifact? 
 The actual color of her hair or a by-product of the set-up? I 
 am pretty sure I know the answers, but still find it a distraction...
 
 
 pretty easy to figure out her natural hair colour, Stan.
 
 B
 

Thanks Bob!

Actually, I since went and looked at couple of Bruce's earlier shots and 
verified that the purple is her natural hair. In those shots it didn't stand 
out in the same way. I presume that she likes her hair with the purple ends, 
and so highlighting it in this shot would please her. But this viewer sees it 
as a distracting element.

stan
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