Re: What is the total wealth ?

2004-08-03 Thread Tom Walker
Wealth is liberty... it is disposable time and nothing more.

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Re: Housing bust...

2004-07-26 Thread Tom Walker
Jim Devine wrote,

July  25, 2004
GRETCHEN MORGENSON
Housing Bust: It Won't Be Pretty

I don't know the web-page that this came from.

New York Times

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Re: u/p labor

2004-07-24 Thread Tom Walker
Speaking of unproductive labour, I just posted to another mailing list --
swt, shorter worktime list -- a draft essay about a seminal discussion of
unproductive labour, fictitious capital, inconvertible paper money and
superfluous things. It's an introductory essay to Charles Wentworth Dilke's
anonymously published pamphlet, The Source and Remedy of the National
Difficulties, mentioned in a footnote in the preface by Engels to vol. II
of Capital. According to Engels, Marx saved the pamphlet from falling into
oblivion. Well, Marx may have saved it from total oblivion, but I
transcribed it and posted it on the internet!

Here's the essay:

http://www.worklessparty.org/timework/srintro.pdf

...and here's the transcribed pamphlet:

http://www.worklessparty.org/timework/source%20and%20remedy.pdf

Jim Devine wrote,

there's economics and then there's economics. the unproductive/productive
distinction may make no sense in terms of neoclassical economics (though
many
NCs see government labor as unproductive), but it makes sense in terms of
Marxian economics. U labor doesn't contribute to surplus-value, whereas P
labor
does.

I don't know if the concept U/P is very useful, though.

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Re: SOCIAL MOBILITY

2004-07-19 Thread Tom Walker
Is it possible that some Republican delegate might hop in a pedicab this
summer and pause to ruminate on an economy in which some are always pulled
and more and more are always pulling?

No.

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Re: The End Of Management?

2004-07-14 Thread Tom Walker
I love it! Total Information Awareness meets ParEcon. Robin Hanson,  may I
introduce you to Robin Hahnel...

Charles Brown wrote,

 TIME.com: The End Of Management? -- Jul. 12, 2004

http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1101040712-660965,00.html

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Re: The End Of Management?

2004-07-14 Thread Tom Walker
Daniel Davies wrote,

Hanson put out a press release last year saying that the revised Policy
Analysis Market would be up and trading by March 2004.  I emailed him
offering to bet $500 that it wouldn't, but I never got a reply.

However, had he accepted your wager, Daniel, he would have paid up:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg07948.html


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Re: The Chicago Smirk

2004-07-03 Thread Tom Walker
Although they may not explicitly acknowledge it -- even to themselves --
Friedman and his minions know intuitively that they are re-telling old folk
tales. Each time they retell these tales the audience nods appreciatively,
that's how it goes! that's how it goes! Neither the audience nor the
storyteller distinguishes between the conventional story and how it really
is and for good reason: no one can say how it really is. That's how it
goes means little more than that's the way  we've heard it so many times
before.

Critics don't have a story. They have to settle for poking holes in the
myth. The holes are soon glossed over and easily forgotten. Myth is
memorable and critique is not. Critique is hard work and has to begin again
each time.

Those who have their own, non-conforming story are cranks. Because no one
has heard their story before, they feel they have to prove it; something
that can't be done.

The surest sign of a crank is insistence on the obviousness of what nobody
else sees. If you have to insist, you're probably deluded.

The tellers of the old tales don't have to insist because people readily
recognize the old tales. How could they not? They've heard them so many
times before. The smirk comes from the self-assurance that one's opponents
are either critics or cranks, or more precisely that one's opponents will
likely be seen by the audience as critics or cranks. Nobody loves a critic,
no one takes a crank seriously. There's no fraud like an avuncular old
fraud.

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Re: Sowell

2004-07-02 Thread Tom Walker
David Shemano:

 The argument is about the effect of minimum wage laws, and if you
 can't figure out the difference between minimum wage laws and rising
wages,

Yes, indeed the argument is about the effect of minimum wage laws and it is
based on a fallacy -- actually several fallacies -- including the shape of
the theoretical labour supply curve, the relationship between low-wage
labour and investment, the confusion of labour rates and labour costs, the
competitiveness of labour markets and probably several others that other
Pen-lers could name. No doubt there is SOME level of minimum wage that may
cause a decline in employment but even then it's possible that the higher
wage more than compensates for the loss of employment both collectively and
individually. For example, someone would possibly be better off working 9
months of the year at $10 an hour than working 12 months at $7 an hour. They
might even be better off with a lower total income earned during a shorter
time period. The minimum wage/unemployment argument is a defiant throwback
to archaic wages-fund doctrine.

I would have every sympathy with Sowell's observation of the bureaucratic
response to his suggestion about empirical validation provided he also
noticed that the incentives for conservative economists are equally
incompatible with the economic laws they purport to uphold and investigate.
These folks are neither entrepreneurs nor scientists. They're an
ecclesiatical order entrusted with an infallible, ineffable doctrine. Is it
an accident that their conclusions invariably exalt the rationality of
privilege? Or does that just happen to be true? It may have been painfully
clear to Sowell that as they pushed up minimum wage levels... employment
levels were falling, but such painful clarity doesn't constitute empirical
validation. Nor, despite the shocked looks on the bureaucrats' faces, would
his data on sugar cane have definitively answered the question.

Considering the theoretical slimness of Sowell's moment of truth, his
painful clarity takes on a fascinating rhetorical function. Does it ground
his reasoning in a moment of *passion* arising out of some kind of vicarious
suffering in identication with the poor? Or is it his annoyance at the
obtuseness of the bureaucrats who are unable to see what he so clearly (he
thinks) sees? Or is there perhaps some kind of fusion there where Sowell's
suffering the bureaucratic fools in itself redeems the suffering of the
poor, regardless of any policy consequences? I only pray that if I ever see
the light, it not be the glow of such thread-bare doctrinal kaka.


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the Lump redux

2004-06-29 Thread Tom Walker
As some Pen-l oldtimers may recall, in the late 1990s I embarked on a quest
for the locus classicus of the oddly-named lump-of-labour fallacy. I
eventually identified an article by D.F. Schloss as the source. Now, it
turns out, the critique of the fixed amount of work, if not the whimsical
name appeared (first?) in Marx's 1865 pamphlet Wages, price and profit.
The Economist magazine has now appropriated my discovery of D.F. Schloss as
the source of the phrase without, however, bothering to mention how
Schloss's usage and its historical context contradict the Economist own
propagandistic use.

For more on this story see my MaxSpeak post at
http://maxspeak.org/mt/archives/000587.html


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...and take Bonzo with you!!

2004-06-08 Thread Tom Walker
Classic Steve Bell:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,1233866,00.html

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Re: More on Hubbert

2004-06-02 Thread Tom Walker
It may be helpful to non-statisticians to point out that the bell curve is
not a theory, a fact or a physical law. It is an observed regularity that
occurs often when looking at large numbers of cases. It has to do with the
randomness of the distribution of the cases. Not all phenomena group
themselves into normal distributions. All Hubbert was saying was that on the
basis of analysis of past data it looks as if oil exploration and oil
production tend to fit under such a curve, when dealing with large numbers
of cases. There are no guarantees that world exploration and world
production follows the same patterns that exploration and production in
Texas and the United States did. But -- barring a big and unlikely
surprise -- the evidence is in for Texas and the U.S. They did indeed
exhibit a bell curve in their historical pattern of discovery and
production. It is Hubbert's track record, not his theory that is compelling.
This is how actuarial tables work, too. We simply base future expectations
on statistical generalizations from past experience.

Knowing what we know about the apparently normal distribution over time of
discovery and production, it would hypothetically be possible to
deliberately counteract the statistical expectation -- to force production
to continue to increase past the peak. But it would not be economically
rational to do so, which is no guarantee it won't happen.

Here's the deal: we burn oil to run machines that save labour time. If it
takes more labour time than it saves to find and produce the oil, it's not
economical to do so. It becomes a value-subtracting activity. The Soviet
Union in its last decades was plagued with value-subtracting state owned
enterprises. That's one of the big reasons for glasnost and perestroika --
to try to restore a semblance of economic rationality.

The U.S. has also fallen far off the economic rationality wagon in the past
couple of decades but so far has been able to finesse that embarrassment
thanks to the sovereign US Dollar. The recycling of petrodollars has, of
course, played a major role in propping up the US Dollar. So there's
obviously a lot more at stake here than whether it takes more or less than a
barrel of oil's worth of work to produce a barrel of oil. But its a
continuous circuit and eventually the level of feedback becomes more than
the crisis managers can handle.


NEW YORK (Reuters) - The dollar hit a two-month low against the euro and a
three-month low versus the Swiss franc on Wednesday on concerns surging oil
prices could hurt the U.S. economy and delay an expected rise in U.S.
interest rates.

Friday's May U.S. employment report is seen as critical for the Federal
Reserve in deciding whether to raise interest rates from a 46-year low of 1
percent, as the market expects it to at its June 29-30 monetary policy
meeting.

Higher rates would be positive for the dollar by providing incentive for
foreign investors to buy U.S. interest-bearing assets, thereby increasing
demand for dollars.

The backup in U.S. interest rates of the last week could be dollar
supportive but that is mitigated by the small amount of the increase, the
economic implications of high oil prices, as well as the increase in
terrorism concerns following the weekend attacks in Saudi Arabia, said Bob
Lynch, currency strategist at BNP Paribas in New York.

Investors have been selling the dollar since late May after oil prices
soared to their highest in two decades.

Europe and Asia may also be hurt by high energy costs, but many investors
saw currencies such as the euro and the Swiss franc as good defensive bets.
These currencies are typically less sensitive to global growth cycles.

Europe is less exposed than the U.S. to oil, less exposed to any
disruptions in the Middle East, and this is driving gains in euro/yen and
euro/dollar, said Patrick Bennett, currency strategist at Commerzbank in
London.


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Re: Hubbert's peak

2004-06-02 Thread Tom Walker
To be fair to Hubbert and his followers, I think Hubbert's basic point was
precisely about the need for technical change and energy efficiency. We are
not starting from zero. He was quoted in a 1983 article,  We have an
enormous amount of existing technical knowledge. It's just a matter of
putting it all together. We still have great flexibility but our
maneuverability will diminish with time. That's not exactly *ignoring*
technical change. It's more like advocating it.

To the extent his followers anticipate misery and conflict, it may have much
to do with the hitherto desulatory track record of the market and the state
about responding to the need for change. Another point is that the scale and
scope of change necessary here is epochal not merely adaptive fine tuning.
Who's to say whether a couple of world wars and a depression is not too high
a price to pay for the transition? People who ignore such details of
technical change are not really giving misery and conflict their due. Can
you see the devil in the previous sentence?

Like Keynes(!), Hubbert talked about the need to move from growth to a
steady-state economy. And, by the way, he does mention the need for
stabilization of the world's population. Come to think of it, though, one
couldn't have a growing population and a steady-state economy without at
least a quantitative immiseration of that pop. could one?

Do people actually read anything by Hubbert before they pronounce sentence
on him or do they rely entirely on second-hand characterizations and vague
impressions?

You know, I happen to think Hubbert may be right for reasons that have
little to do with proven or probable or as yet undiscovered reserves of
petroleum. He may be right for all the wrong reasons. Rather than marking
some half-way point along the road to depletion, I would see the impasse as
arising from the Contradiction between the foundation of bourgeois
production (value as measure) and its development...

...to the degree that large industry develops, the creation of real wealth
comes to depend less on labour time and on the amount of labour employed
than on the power of the agencies set in motion during labour time, whose
'powerful effectiveness' is itself in turn out of all proportion to the
direct labour time spent on their production, but depends rather on the
general state of science and on the progress of technology, or the
application of this science to production.

In other words, to *realize* the now necessary technical and cultural
changes would require abandonment of what Marx called value as measure and
what Hubbert called American folk-lore about the work ethic. Most
employment now is merely pushing paper around. The actual work needed to
keep a stable society running is a very small fraction of available
manpower.


Jim Devine wrote,

I don't think that the validity of the bell curve is that important to
the discussion of Hubbert's peak. His basic point -- or rather, that of
his followers -- is the same as that of David Ricardo  Thomas Malthus:
long-term diminishing returns in the supplies of natural resources leads
to increasing misery and/or conflict.

Of course, as with Ricardo  Malths, that ignores such matters as
technical change (improvements in the efficiency of oil use, etc.)


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Re: Hubbert's peak

2004-06-02 Thread Tom Walker
Carrol Cox wrote,

What needs to be debated is the views of those involved in the debate,
not an antiquarian issue about some particular person not involved in
the debate.

Hear! Hear! Thank you for saying it, Carrol.


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Re: Mike Davis on Hubbert's Peak

2004-06-01 Thread Tom Walker
 sartesian wrote:

 Anybody interested in knowing just how flexible and elastic the
 speculations about peaks really are would do well to read the original
 peakist himself, the petroleum Malthus, M. King Hubbert.  Take a look at
 http://www.hubbertpeak.com/hubbert/nehring.pdf  and you will read the King
 predicting a peak in the non-communist world's oil production in the early
 to mid 1980s, etc. etc. etc.

 Didn't exactly happen that way, now did it?


What I read on page iv of the report is a disclaimer that says Hubbert was
one of several people who reviewed the technical memorandum but did not
necessarily approve, disapprove or endorse this report. How is that the
King predicting a peak? Anywhoo... the report gives a high end estimate for
2000 of 60 mbd for non-Communist world oil production. So, according to the
U.S. Department of Energy, world oil production averaged 79 million barrels
a day in 2003. Subtract about 18 million barrels a day for Eastern Europe,
China and North Korea and that leaves 61 mbds for the non-Communist (as of
1980) world. So where's the great come uppance here, or am I missing
something?

All sniping at unwarranted snickering aside, my opinion is that Hubbert
perhaps either misunderstood his own curve or deliberately obfuscated what
it is really about. It's not primarily about just the physical quantity of
crude in the ground -- although he seems to leave that impression. It's
about the _relationship_ between the financially-dictated growth of the
economy and the physical constraints imposed by the finite quantity of
resources and also by the finite limits of technological improvement. Where
Hubbert started out from is, I think, better revealed in his graph labeled
Figure 1 in his 1936 article for Technocracy on Man-Hours and
Distribution. That graph is titled Theoretical curves showing relation
between production, man-hours per unit, and total man-hours, for U.S. (see:
http://www.technocracy.org/pamphlets/man-hours-distribution.html).

Undeniably, there is something fetishistic and reifying about Hubbert's and
his acolytes' attachment to his curve -- sort of like a one-shot Kondratieff
wave. But I think that can be attributed to the difficulty in distinguishing
between the image and an explanation. It's a bit like explaining sheet
music. To someone accustomed to graphing statistics, the relationships shown
in the graph are almost self-explanatory. Any attempt at verbal elaboration,
though, teeters between truism and hubris. The rub is that what Hubbert and
his curve were up against was and still is folklore -- the hoary folklore of
the work ethic and compound interest. Hubbert's curve simply says if you
believe in one then you can't believe in the other or you can't have your
cake and eat it too. American free enterprise folklore *insists* that you
*must* believe in both simultaneously. Most people do and they are utterly
baffled the moment you try to show in any way that the two are
irreconcilable. I guess you just keep dumbing down your explanations with
ever more 'concrete' examples until suddenly one day your dogma is written
in stone.

Snicker all you want at King Hubbert's small incoherencies. After all, the
folks in the Hummers couldn't care less even if Hubbert successfully
predicted fifty years in advance the exact date, hour and minute that world
oil production will (or already did?) peak. As far as I'm concerned, world
oil production has peaked when the U.S. has to have 130,000 troops occupying
Iraq and Saudi Arabia has 30,000 guards protecting its oilfields and still
its not enough to secure the supply.

Doug Henwood wrote,

 Wow, those are some spectacularly wrong projections.

Which ones specifically? And WHO made them?

 Someday we may run out of oil, but I suspect we'll choke ourselves or
 ruin the climate completely before we do.

That's a reassuring thought. But actually, Doug, ruining the climate and
choking ourselves are, effectively, ways to run out of oil. One also runs
out of oil when one expends the better part of the productivity gains won
from the use of energy in military action to secure the supply. You could
call it robbing Peter to pay Paul. Conceivably, it might also be feasible to
boost oil production by blasting it out of the ground with low-yield nuclear
devices. The contaminated crude might make us glow in the dark but at least
we wouldn't run out.

Tom Walker


Re: Mike Davis on Hubbert's Peak

2004-06-01 Thread Tom Walker
sartesian wrote:

I believe it is important, essential really, that we not be stampeded
into
supporting, reproducing, endorsing scarcity theorizing for several reasons,
first of which is that there is little data to support the grand theories
of
peak and depletion. Second of which is that scarcity is an ideology
deployed
to curb the unsupportable, as Hubbert would have called it, demands of
an unsustainable population, i.e human welfare.

There is little data to support any grand theories one way or the other.
Either that or there is data that can be marshalled to support whatever one
wishes to believe. I say this as an expert witness whose job it is to
marshall data for arbitrations. The other side is always able to marshall
its data that emphatically and unequivocally backs its case. Sometimes you
have to crawl deep inside the so-called data to know whether it does or not.
In the case of resource depletion, only data after the fact might be
decisive but even that could be pooh-poohed as failing to take into account
the as-yet unknown.

Scarcity is hardly the problem. The problem is learning to live responsibly
with abundance. We haven't learned to do that yet and unless we do the
population is unsupportable because most of it is already not being
supported while a tiny fraction of it is being gorged. Scarcity or no
scarcity, non-renewable resources *are* finite. That's why they're called
non-renewable. Or do you consider Bill Rees and Mathis Wackernagel
hopelessly Malthusian, too.

Not being myself versed in the collected works of M. King Hubbert, it's
conceivable that your image of him as a raving Malthusian has some basis in
something he wrote. I will admit I've encountered followers of Hubbert who
give off an unmistakable whiff of Malthusianism. There is also, however a
humanistic side to Hubbert that is incompatible with strict Malthusianism.
So while not a stampeding endorser of Hubbert, I find some of what he has to
say intriguing and useful. Some, I find awkward and nerdish. You seem to
have an axe to grind against either the man or his epigones. I suppose
working backwards from Kim Sung Il, I might disown Marx.

You put curb, unsupportable and unsustainable in quotation marks and
couple them with the phrase as Hubbert would have called it. Are you then
paraphrasing something you project Hubbert would have said but never
actually said? Or are you constructing a phrase out of separate words that
Hubbert actually used? One needs to know what deep design lies behind such a
peculiar and radically ungrammatical construction.


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Re: Is the American work ethic ruining our sex lives?

2004-05-28 Thread Tom Walker
I've got the stats... but first, a quote from an old book:

You promote the guy who takes his problem home with him.

So wrote William Whyte in his 1956 book, _The Organization Man_. Harold
Rosenberg expanded on that in a review, observing that for the
commercialized intellecual:

You hire the guy who takes his problem to bed with him.

Two momentous demographic changes have taken place in the U.S. workplace
since Whyte and Rosenberg commented. The participation of women in paid work
has risen dramatically as has the academic credentialization of employees.
There are other momentous changes but those are the two I'm looking at. From
1969 data, it is obvious that both gender and years of schooling are highly
correlated with weekly hours of work. For the employed population, men
worked longer hours, women worked shorter hours and the hours of work
increased with years of schooling completed.

Jumping ahead 35 years to 2004, what do we find with the hours of work? For
the population as a whole, there was remarkably little change in the
percentages in each time slot (1 to 5 hours, 6 to10 hours, etc.). Broken
down by sex, there were changes in the distributions that when added
together virtually offset each other. So the total gives a picture of DEAD
CALM over a 35 year period (I also included 1987 as a midpoint). In my
opinion, it's the dog that didn't bark.

What I mean by this is that if the weekly hours actually worked were
economically motived by the requirements of the production process there
would likely have been a substantial change in the overall distribution.
Instead, their very immobility suggests that they function more like a
notational system for a position-holding hierarchy, i.e., promotion follows
from conspicuous consumption of hours at the office.

What does this have to do with sex? I'll answer that if someone can just
explain to me what such time serving has to do with the work ethic.


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Re: Is the American work ethic ruining our sex lives?

2004-05-28 Thread Tom Walker
Just a secondary citation. Harold Rosenberg quotes Whyte in  _The Tradition
of the New_, 1959, University of Chicago Press, p. 281. H.R. doesn't give
the exact ref.

Michael Perelman asked:

this is wonderful.  Do you have an exact ref?

You promote the guy who takes his problem home with him.


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Re: Background to Berg Beheading

2004-05-13 Thread Tom Walker
Ken Hanly wrote,

Quite a bit of the stuff is speculation by conspiracy buffs

The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative
website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation.

There is indeed speculation in the article Ken posted a link to and it is
unfortunate because in this case the facts literally speak for themselves. I
wouldn't call Free Republic a conservative website. It is a viciously racist
forum whose participants routinely call for genocide against Muslims and/or
Arabs. I have prepared a 100% speculation-free account of the Free
Republic/Nick Berg matter.

Internet Hate Group Targeted Michael S. Berg, Company

by the Sandwichman

Two weeks before Nicolaus Berg was allegedly picked up by Iraqi police, a
right-wing hate group calling itself Free Republic published on the internet
a hit list of enemies
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092851/posts) with the avowed
purpose of harassing and harming individuals on the list. The list was
copied from an online petition supporting a March 20, 2004 demonstration
sponsored by the anti-war group ANSWER. It included the name of Michael S.
Berg and listed his affiliation as Prometheus Methods Tower Services, Inc.

Tactics discussed by the right-wingers included circulating the names to
employers, the FBI and the military in anticipation of causing them serious
grief. One participant stated, I sure do hope to see a round of hangings
soon. The larger Free Republic site abounds with apocalyptic imagery,
frequent calls for genocide against Muslims and Arabs and expressions of
adoration for US President George W. Bush.

Here you are, FReepers. wrote 'doug from upland,' the instigator of the
enemies list, , Here is the enemy. Working in conjunction with
A.N.S.W.E.R., they have given us their names. How about this one --- Jameel
Rashid, U.S. Coast Guard, Portsmouth, VA. Well, sailor. I guess it is time
for me to call your commanding officer and see what he thinks about this.

The discussion topic is identified on the site by the keywords:
APPEASENIKS; DAMNCOMMIES; ENEMYWITHIN; LEFTISTS; PEACENIKS; RATS; SCUMBAGS;
TRAITORS; TREASONOUSSCUM; USEFULIDIOTS; WARONTERROR

Less [sic] we forget, replied 'bmwcycle,' Everyone send this to Rush,
Sean, Fox, and everyone you can e-mail this list. Don't stop until everyone
has a copy.

The tone of discussion on the topic, which initially continued from March 7
to March 12 2004, may be summarized by the following comments:

The poor moron is not going to know what hit him.

2000 piles of puke on the floor, representing the who's who of the world of
stench.

Ah, too bad we don't have some pictures so we could make up a rogues
gallery of some of the individuals.


Turn on the full volume idiot alert with red strob [sic] light. This is
priceless ---

I only wish this putz worked for me. I can assure you, he would rue the day
his mother delivered him.

Discussion on the list had played itself out by March 12, totalling 269
messages. Then on May 11 it resumed with the message, The guy who was
beheaded was on this list. He was also arrested by Iraqi police and held in
an Iraqi prison for a few weeks before he was kidnapped. I think they
treated him better in the prison than the kidnappers did. This was followed
by a correction, Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower
Service, Inc., I believe this is the father of Nick Berg - I wonder what he
thinks about his Muslim buddies now...

One respondent to the message, 'He won't blame the Islamofascist bastards.
He will blame the president'... and he has, expressed a desire to spit in
the face of Michael Berg. It was deleted by the list moderator, (comment
#275).

Another relayed the information that the FReeper enemies list was being
mentioned in connection with Nick Berg's murder.

Did you know FreeRepublic is being partially blamed for Nick Bergs
beheading? Asked one participant.

A subsequent message sought to disown any possible culpability, FR just
copied a list. Whoever put the list together in the first place is in the
mix too. Two messages, struck by conscience or public relations savvy
quickly offered pro-forma, if mixed expressions of magnanimity: My heart
and prayers go out to the Berg family, and Mr. Berg's friends. My prayers
also go, daily, to our fightig [sic] men and women, and that God will strike
our enemies senseless. My prayers are for the Berg family and friends
also. Regardless of their politics they are parents and I have sympathy for
what they must be going through. It has to be heart wrenching.

The last comment on the list, as of 4:10 am on May 13 complained, Now we at
Freerepublic are responsible for Berg's death-because of this thread? But
perhaps the answer to that had already appeared, two messages earlier with
presumably unintentional irony: When is the last time you saw someone on
the political right do property damage or deliberately injure someone? When
do we call for the death of anyone other than our 

Re: Did Bush Sacrifice Nick Berg?

2004-05-12 Thread Tom Walker
On March 7, 2004 an a
href=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092851/posts;enemies
list/a composed of signatories to an anti-war petition was posted on the
Free Republic website. The introductory and subsequent comments on that list
suggest that the purpose of the posting was to encourage people to harrass
the individuals on the list and to circulate their names to agencies and
individuals that might take action against them.

Nicolaus Berg's father, Michael Berg was on that list and he named
Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc. as an affiliation. According to his
family on March 24, 2004 -- approximately two weeks after publication of the
enemies list on the Free Republic website -- Nicolaus Berg was detained by
Iraqi police who handed him over to US forces, he was then held until April
6 when he was released, the day after his family had filed a lawsuit in
Philadelphia federal court. Nicolaus Berg was not heard from again after
April 9.

Tom Walker


Re: imperalist booty

2004-05-07 Thread Tom Walker
Julio Huato wrote,

Considered as wealth, the colonial booty was already consumed, directly or
productively.  Or it was wasted.  Therefore, its value is gone to never
return.

The value of wealth, productive or not, the value of any non-directly-human
input of production, once consumed, is gone as well.  If a society is to be
reproduced, then entirely new value needs to replace it, because the only
way value can be preserved beyond its existing use value form is to be
replaced altogether by newly created value.

We need to be careful about three distinct relationships here that tend to
get confused one for another: wealth, value and capital. Perhaps the
confusion results from the fact that they can be readily exchanged for each
other. Perhaps capitalism results from the fact that they can be confused
with one another. Or, to say the same a bit differently, capital is able to
continually overcome an otherwise operative tendency for a fall in the rate
of profit because of shape shifting between wealth, value and capital.

What you say is correct with respect to value. Value doesn't continue to
exist beyond its consumption either directly or productively. Capital,
however, describes a relationship that lays claim to a portion of value as
it's being produced -- in theory the difference between the cost of
reproducing labour power and the value produced by the expenditure of that
labour power REGARDLESS OF THE COST OF THE OTHER INPUTS. That's a political
claim and doesn't depend on any physical process of production. Capital
itself _need not be productive at all_ but may be fictitious.

Wealth, I would like to say, is disposable time and nothing more. If that
sounds abrupt and enigmatic, the reference is to remarks by the old man
(another year older, even) in the Grundrisse and ultimately to the anonymous
1821 pamphlet by Dilke. Money doesn't grow on trees but wealth can and does.
Wealth falls from the sky like rain and shines down on us from the heavens.
But an immense quantity of wealth can also be destroyed in the pursuit of a
insignificant amount of value.

That would appear to be the stage of capitalism that we're currently in:
the one in which, overall, the expansion of value needed to service the
accumulation of capital requires the destruction of more wealth than it
creates. Unless we can sort the three out, we're seriously fucked.

Tom Walker
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Re: imperalist booty

2004-05-07 Thread Tom Walker
In reply to Julio Huato,

The reference is to page 706 of the English translation, Vintage Books. At
some level the distinctions between wealth, value and capital may be
straightforward but they're not so at the margins. Marx, as I read the
passage, quotes approvingly of the notion that real wealth is disposable
time *outside that needed in direct production*. Therefore only a portion of
value -- that which is directly consumed -- would count as wealth. And use
value includes more than value. The blackberry I pluck from the roadside
bramble and eat has use value even though I would hardly describe my
activities of plucking, chewing and swallowing as labor. But I would add
that wealth is more than the stock of use values in that it also includes
_potential_  use values, which may only be potential in some remote and
unknown way and thus, for all we know, unlikely to be used. Maybe I'm
splitting hairs by distinguishing between recognized use values and
potentialities that we don't and may never know about, I don't think so.

It's true that value valorizes itself by by repeated exploitation of fresh
labor. But the amount of that value in turn is established in retrospect
by the revenues it receives. Let's say I own a portfolio of securities with
a value of $10,000 that pays dividends of $1,000 a year. What happens to
the value of my porfolio if the dividend is increased to $2,000 a year? It
most likely goes up. Although I may be exploiting labour more intensively in
the dividend, have I added any exploited labour to my principal? No. So
where did the extra value of my principal come from? Strictly speaking ,
it's fictitious. I might even go further and say that, viewed in retrospect,
all capital thus becomes fictitious to the extent that even the value of
physical assets is nothing in the absence of the continuing revenues. But
that is viewed in retrospect. We don't just appear at that retrospective
point from thin air. We have to get there first.

I won't argue for or against Louis Proyect's views on plunder, although I
can imagine that the magnitude of that plunder is immense. Especially in
terms of real wealth, as distinct from the slag heaps of highly acclaimed
values spewed out by capitalist industry.

I would agree that imperialism and abuse neither arise from the nature of
capital nor are the essential characteristics of it. But they are essential
characteristics of the actual history we have lived with capital. That says
something, even if it is only that capitalism thrives in vile conditions.
The state both enforces rules and violates them. Sovereignty, after all, is
a claim to a monopoly of violence, not its abolition. Are you saying that
the state that sends Martha Stewart to jail for lying about her stock
transactions is a different state from the one that lies about the reasons
for going to war and then, when the lies cease to be operative, blythely and
with impunity produces a new set of lies? I would say they are just two
faces of the same state.

I leave Louis Brandeis to speak for himself. If he still can.

But I don't understand why the tendency of the average profit rate is
relevant to this discussion.

Because if the accumulation of capital worked in a storybook step-by-step
fashion the rising proportion of capital to labour would cause the revenue
per unit of capital to decline: simplistically, revenue would increase
arithmetically while capital would increase geometrically. I dread even
mentioning this caricature for fear that it will come back to haunt me
someday as something that I've said actually happens. It doesn't happen and
in very general terms it doesn't (it couldn't) precisely because wealth we
didn't know existed can become use-values and value can evaporate or be
mysteriously back-formed from revenue, etc.

But as a whole, capital must be productive or perish.

Depends on what you mean by productive and perish. State owned
enterprises in the Soviet Union regularly met their production targets by
producing unsaleable goods for the warehouse and consuming inputs with
higher value that their outputs. That's what is happening here (in terms of
wealth if not in terms of value). But exactly who and what perished when the
USSR collapsed? What will perish when the current stage of capitalist
subtraction -- not of value but of real wealth -- finally reaches its limit?
Will it be capital per se or simply the last shred of bourgeois legitimacy
and legality formerly associated with capitalism (re: the Brandeis quote).

Wealth on the other hand has to be painstakingly produced.

Yes. But not necessarily by the expenditure of labour power. Again, see
Grundrisse e.g., pp. 704-709.


Tom Walker
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Re: The new Iraqi Flag ( imperialist booty)

2004-05-06 Thread Tom Walker
Doug Henwood wrote,

I keep wanting to see some rigorous proof that the First
World is rich primarily at the expense of the Third, which is
something I hear people assert pretty often. I'm open to the
argument, if someone wants to make it.

Depends first on what you mean by rich and poor. Political economy upholds
the amount of revenues that are or could be raised. Dilke argued wealth was
disposable time and nothing more. I suppose that translates into per
capita GDP versus per capita GPI. But second I think it is a mistake to
assume that enrichment and/or impoverish represent or are represented by a
transfer of funds from one place to another.

A rich country's monopolization of resources, markets etc. can effectively
deny access to those resources or markets even with no money changing hands.
So how do we measure the absence of what might have been?

It seems to me that it is not so much the poor who enrich the rich as the
rich who impoverish the poor. And not always by taking away something that
the poor formerly have. Sometimes by giving or selling them something that
they were better off without: neo-colonial regimes, ill-conceived
development projects, armaments, infant formula etc. You can do a lot of
damage for relatively little profit. Because it is the first world that
primarily does the valuing the dollar value of the transactions may be much
smaller than their impacts. Would Coke's revenues exceed the royalties paid
to all third world musicians? Maybe that question encapsulates too many of
the qualitative imponderables. But whoops, there I go making those moral
judgements that the free market prohibits me from making.


Tom Walker
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Re: imperalist booty

2004-05-06 Thread Tom Walker
Doug Henwood,

I don't doubt that about the past; my query is about the present. Of
course, Brenner disagrees, but I don't want to go near that one on
this list.

But capital is all about the past: dead labour. Those who appropriated the
most dead labour in the past are entitled to appropriate more dead labour,
compounded, in the future. Doesn't matter if you appropriated it there then
and here now. Joan Robinson quipped the only thing worse than having one's
labour power exploited is not having one's labour power exploited.


Tom Walker
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Re: Bush/Greenspan tax increase?

2004-04-01 Thread Tom Walker
Gene Coyle wrote:


 The notion of raising the retirement age for full Social Security
 benefits is popular in conservative circles.

 Shouldn't it be described as a tax increase?

It's actually a tax cut, Gene. You see, wages are a tax on the revenue of
the real creaters of wealth -- the rich. Social Security benefits are simply
deferred wages. Therefore, the fewer SS benefits workers receive and the
longer they have to work for those benefits, the more of their own
hard-earned income the wealthy get to keep.


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Re: utopianism

2004-03-31 Thread Tom Walker
 from the
domination of capital. Otherwise the disposable time confronts us as empty
time to be filled up with the products of commercialized culture.

Seen in that light, the superfluous *remains* a condition -- question of
life or death -- for the necessary, whether under capitalism or any
realizable alternative.

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Re: Working like dogs (was Job flight)

2004-03-30 Thread Tom Walker
d-squared wrote:


 but one argument that I
 always think ought to get more traction is that
 capitalism has singularly failed to shorten the working
 day.  A lot of people intuitively realise that there is
 something wrong here; we were promised robot slaves and
 unlimited leisure time in the comic books, and now the
 space age is here and we're still working like dogs.

Broken record, here. Yes, it's uncanny how the argument doesn't  get more
traction. I mentioned yesterday in a post on this thread that a reduction of
U.S. annual hours to approximately European standards could be expected to
generate (or preserve) around 10 million jobs, the same number John Kerry
claims (with less supporting argument) his economic policies would produce
in four years. Kerry's 10 million estimate comes from a memo from Lawrence
Katz who projects that number from the lowering of the unemployment rate to
4.1%. Sounds to me like a tautology: if the unemployment rate drops while
the labour force grows, jobs will be created. That's right up there with
Calvin Coolidge's When a great many people are unable to find work,
unemployment results.

That same Katz commented some years ago on a Brookings Institute paper about
hours reduction as work sharing. He made a number of sensible background
points but his main point and emphasis was utterly unsubstantiated. He even
produced a pseudo-algebraic 'model' (the best case scenario for advocates
of work-sharing) that only pertains if one assumes that the given hours of
work are optimal for maximizing output, a condition that has been clearly
demonstrated to be contrary to theory. And, of course, he just had to frame
his discussion with a recital of the lump-of-output fallacy, Richard
Layard's lame attempt to lend greater terminological precision to the
utterly fraudulent claim of a lump-of-labour fallacy.

The bottom line for Katz was the conclusion that there are a number of good
reasons to believe that mandated work-sharing is unlikely to produce much of
a reduction in unemployment. One of those good reasons being his
theoretically bankrupt model and the other being the allegedly fallacious
assumption implicit in arguments for work-sharing. That, I'm afraid is
what passes for the conventional wisdom in economics on the hours of labour.


Tom Walker


Re: utopianism

2004-03-30 Thread Tom Walker
Jim Devine wrote,


 I see nothing wrong with utopian dreaming, as long as it's not seen as a
 matter
 of thinking up blueprints that _must_ be imposed.

Just about everything I lay my hands on these days has the word Utopia in
it. Chapman (1909): It occurred to me after a cursory examination of some
recent examples of that remarkable modern crop of Utopias and anticipations
which apparently are appealing to an extensive public. Dilke (1821): Even
in these Utopian speculations the great land-holder should possibly be
excepted; a rent, equal to the expense on importation, being alsways secured
to him. Dahlberg (1927): Utopia through Capitalism.

The irony, it seems to me, is that ALL theoretical abstractions about
society and economy are essentially Utopian, no matter how realistic or
materialistic they may aspire to be. Even dystopias are Utopian, although
not eutopian. I'm drawn to this reflection first by the frankness of
Dilke's description of his treatise as Utopian speculations and its
contrast with Chapman's chaste disclaimer, If only these 'new worlds'
represented what existed somewhere among human beings with passions and
infirmities like our own, how much more instructive they would be!

Could it not be, though, that the more 'realistic' a Utopia purports to be,
the more beguiling it is as a dogmatic blueprint that must be imposed? The
most beguiling Utopia would be precisely the one that elevates and enshrines
those passions and infirmities like our own. Like selfishness and greed,
for instance.

Clearly the world in which the innocent, well-meaning, enlightened,
prosperty-bringing USA is threatened by evil enemies is a Utopia even though
it is presented nightly on the newscasts as an actual place. But then so too
is the world in which US imperialism dominates the globe with its military
might -- even if one happens to think it is a descriptively more accurate
one.

What I am having some difficulty formulating a response to is the seemingly
spontaneous, instantaneous 'ability' of people to 'see through' and dismiss
positive visions of change as frivolously utopian and simultaneously to
recite a stale litany of non-factual, not even theoretically plausible
articles of faith about the way it really is, always has been and always
will be. You know, the way that higher wages destroy jobs, longer hours
mean greater productivity and 'flexibility' or competition lowers prices and
improves quality.


Re: Job flight

2004-03-29 Thread Tom Walker
While there are no hard local numbers, about 300,000 jobs nationwide have
been lost since 2000, according to Forrester Research Inc.

Well, while there are no hard numbers, about 10,000,000 jobs have been
lost in the U.S. due to excessive hours of work (compared to Europe).

Candidate Kerry says he'll create 10,000,000 jobs over 4 years by reducing
corporate tax rates. Well, the same number of jobs could be created over the
same time frame -- perhaps shorter -- by phasing in a reduction in the
average annual hours of work from around 1815 to a more leisurely 1550. The
rule of thumb is that about half of a reduction in hours per worker
translates into job creation and about half into productivity gains.

Imagine, though, the torrent of indignation, outrage and disdain that would
issue forth from editorial pages and mainstream economist if a Democratic
candidate had the temerity to make such a ridiculous, fallacious and
utterly frivolous proposal*. The fact that the editorialists and
mainstreamers wouldn't know what they were talking about is beside the
point -- their ignorance would be unanimous and their unanimity would
surmount all uncertainty.

*Not to mention unprecedented.

GOP 1932:
We favor the principle of the shorter work week and the shorter work day
with its application to Government as well as to private employment, as
rapidly and as constructively as conditions will warrant.

DEM 1932:
We advocate the spread of employment by a substantial reduction in the
hours of labor, the encouragement of the shorter week by applying that
principle in government service,


Tom Walker
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Re: Job flight contest $$ (was terrorism futures market)

2004-03-29 Thread Tom Walker
Gene Coyle wrote:

Thinking about job flight?  Here's your reward.

Thanks, Gene. I'll enter. I won the last essay contest I entered that was
announced on Pen-L: Robin (terrorism futures market) Hanson's Has
Privatization gone far enough? Since there are eight prizes in this one, a
$5,000 show should be a dead cinch for the Sandwichman!

 the title 'Import workers or export jobs?' shouldn't hurt because one of
the standard replies to fears that immigrants will take away jobs has been
the 'lump-of-labor fallacy' rebuttal that there is not a fixed amount of
work. The Economist has, over the past decade been the leading propagandist
against the lump-of-labor fallacy, so they should be especially impressed
when I begin my essay with the words: There is most definitely *not* a
fixed amount of work to be done...

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Re: 'human capital

2004-03-21 Thread Tom Walker
I would like to draw your attention to the discussion on pages 32 to 35 of
the 1821 pamphlet, The Source and Remedy of the National Difficulties
(described by Engels as the most advanced outpost of a whole group
of writings of the 1820s...). The author constructs a rude guess as to
how far the exactions of capital extend. He does so by subtracting, from
the incomes of several classes of people, the average annual wages of a
common labourer. Income above that standard he reckons as being interest on
capital, for even the high wages of mechanics and other artizans, inasmuch
as it exceeds this, is interest of capital; capital expended in their
apprenticeship, in indentures, premium, food, or clothing, or loss of time.

If you follow the entire analysis, it should be clear that not all of this
'human capital' would be 'productive'. In fact, without singling out
Bishops, Barristers or Persons educating youths in Universities and Chief
Schools, a large quantity of it may be presumed to be fictitious capital,
corresponding to the relatively large proportions of fictitious capital in
general that is analyzed previously in the pamphlet.

The pamplet is available in the microfilm Goldsmiths' Kress Library of
Economic Literature. I am in the process of transcribing it to an electronic
file. If anyone would like me to send them a copy (in MS Word), I can be
reached at timework at telus.net.

BTW, the title of the pamphlet goes on to describe it as Deduced from
Principles of Political Economy in a Letter to Lord John Russell. It occurs
to me that it might have been appropriate to have referred to it as deduced
from principles of Political Justice, rather than economy, with the
substitute term signifying the author's commitment to the ideas of William
Godwin, as expressed in his Enquiry Concerning Political Justice, and its
Influence on General Virtue and Happiness.

Tom Walker
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Re: What is this thing called love?

2004-03-14 Thread Tom Walker
The knight sets forth...

1. In Mimesis in the Origins of Bourgeois Culture (Theory and Society,
Autumn, 1977) Sharon Zukin suggested that the Protestant ethic, to which
Weber attributed the spirit of capitalism -- Benjamin Franklin's
moralizing about hard work and thrift -- the cult of the self-made man --
may have been ultimately based on bourgeois mimesis and adaptation of the
conventions of aristocratic courtly romance.

2. see also Susan Buck-Morss: The Flaneur, the Sandwichman and the Whore
(New German Critique, Fall, 1986)

The Flaneur takes the concept of being-for-sale itself for a walk... his
last incarnation is as sandwichman.

...the 'keep smiling' on the job market adopts the behavior of the whore
who, on the love market, picks up someone with a smile.

With regard to the de La Rochefoucauld maxim I posted earlier, I would
interpret les femmes as only conventionally referring to women but
metaphorically referring more broadly to those who love. And les
premires passions are, in my opinion, only mentioned to provide a spectral
counterpoint to les autres. The maxim thus boils down to something like
those who love are in love with love. les femmes and les premires
passions give the maxim character and animate it, just as l'amant does
for l'amour.


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Re: What is this thing called love?

2004-03-14 Thread Tom Walker
Porter is prety cold-eyed about love, which was my
point to Joanna. He's the fella that wrote Love For
Sale, among others.

Electric eels, I might add, do it
Though it shocks 'em I know
Why ask if shad do it
Waiter, bring me shadroe


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Re: What is this thing called love?

2004-03-13 Thread Tom Walker
Joanna:

  Why not simply say that human relationships are
 bound by love. After all,
  contracts are always conditional, whereas love is
 not.

Dans les premires passions les femmes aiment l'amant, et dans les autres
elles aiment l'amour. -- Franois, duc de La Rochefoucauld


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Rifkin Redux

2004-03-13 Thread Tom Walker
http://www.guardian.co.uk/recession/story/0,7369,1159787,00.html

Herein lies the conundrum. If dramatic advances in productivity can replace
more and more human labour, resulting in more workers being let go from the
workforce, where will the consumer demand come from to buy all the potential
new products and services? We are being forced to face up to an inherent
contradiction at the heart of our market economy that has been present since
the very beginning, but is only now becoming irreconcilable.

Greatly increased productivity has been at the expense of more workers
being marginalised into part-time employment or given their pink slips. A
shrinking workforce, however, means diminished income, reduced consumer
demand, and an economy unable to grow. This is the new structural reality
that government and business leaders and so many economists are reluctant to
acknowledge.

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Re: Love Affair Update

2004-03-12 Thread Tom Walker
Michael,

A few tips:

KENNETH CHARLES BLAISDELL wrote a dissertation in 1984 on early 1950s car
magazines. The abstract refers to America's love affair with the car.

kcb at deltatechinc.com

Also, in a footnote in a 1958 article on The Belief in Progress in
Twentieth-Century America Clarke Chambers refers to a Max Lerner article in
which Lerner commented upon the long love affair that Americans had carried
on with the machine...(Journal of the History of Ideas: Vol. 19, No. 2,
p.217)

Max Lerner The Machine Explodes in Actions and Passions: Notes on the
Multiple Revolutions of Our Time (New York, 1949) p. 19-20


Tom Walker
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Re: Is Recovery Without Jobs Now the Norm?

2004-03-10 Thread Tom Walker
From the LA Times:

The jobless recovery, nearly 2 1/2 years old, has gone
on too long to be called an anomaly or a blip, Zandi
said. Even if the economy finds its way and creates
jobs, he added, this strange time will be remembered
as part of economic lore.

If the past pattern of growth no longer holds, the
implications are enormous.

Regression to the mean. I suspect that the real anomaly was the low
unemployment rate of 1999-2000 and the jobless recovery has been simply
working off a backlog of what might be called fictitious employment. In
other words, the goldilocks economy was a bleached blonde and now the
mousy brown roots are growing out.

On the surface, things now are not quite as bad as they look-- it's just
that they were too good to be true then. Deep down, though, things are worse
than they appear. What drove the jobs bubble was an unprecedented asset
inflation, the residual of which remains embedded in house prices.
Paradoxically, poor job growth may be the only thing sustaining the
recovery. Here's why: rapid job growth and, more importantly, the consequent
income growth would increase inflationary pressures leading to the raising
of interest rates and, ultimately, the bursting of the housing bubble.

The other paradox is that poor job growth is likely keeping the unemployment
rate lower than it otherwise would be. A hiring boom would swell the labour
force. Interesting times.


Tom Walker
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Friendly folks and U.S. taxpayers

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Walker
It's very simple. Our people risked their lives. Friendly coalition folks
risked their lives, and therefore the contracting is going to reflect that,
and that's what the U.S. taxpayers expect, Ui said. Vino vendibili hedera
non opus est.

Tom Walker
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Re: Friendly folks and U.S. taxpayers

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Walker
Michael Perelman wrote,

 This stance is conclusive proof that gov't contracts are pork, not
 transactions at arms length.  The gov't is not usually that open about its
 dealings.

Yes, indeed. It's about the loot. There's also a formidible subtext here
about the weapons of mass destruction. That is to say, about the absence of
weapons of mass destruction and the absence of any mention of that absence.
Friendly coalition folks risked their lives... for what? Not for what the
official cover story claimed. But we knew all along that the official cover
story was a pretext. They said so themselves, sotto voce. So now, rather
than finesse what should be an embarrassment, Bush elects to brazen it with
the conqueror's swagger.


PK on the lump of labor fallacy

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Walker
Workin' on it.

Tom Walker
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Ian wrote:

[cue to the Sandwichman]

[New York Times]
October 7, 2003
Lumps of Labor
By PAUL KRUGMAN


Re: PK on the lump of labor fallacy

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Walker
Dear Professor Krugman,

The so-called 'lump of labor fallacy' you refer to in your column of October
7, 2003 is a crock (see my The 'lump-of-labor'case against work-sharing:
populist fallacy or marginalist throwback? in _Working Time: International
trends, theory and policy perspectives_, eds. Lonnie Golden and Deborah M.
Figart, Routledge, 2000).

A legend about the fallacy has indeed been passed down in introductory
economics textbooks to generations of students, but that is about the full
extent of its status as economic knowledge. The spurious claim that
advocates of reduced work time routinely commit such a fallacy is
responsible for more policy impasses than is any alleged belief in a fixed
amount of work.

As an advocate of shorter work time, I always found it puzzling that I was
supposed to believe in a fixed amount of work -- a concept that didn't make
much sense to me. So I did what any responsible scholar would do: I went to
the sources.

It wasn't easy. Textbooks that referred to the lump of labor fallacy didn't
footnote the fallacy; they simply repeated it as well-known and
self-evident. I was eventually lucky enough to find what appears to be the
earliest usage through a full-text search in JSTOR and I discovered that the
lump of labor fallacy wasn't exactly as represented in the textbooks.

That early usage, by D.F. Schloss in 1892, was anecdotal rather than logical
and, as the author remarked, had nothing to do with the length of the
working day. Schloss was discussing workers' attitudes toward piecework. It
was, I believe, only after the anti-Eight-hour-day activities of the
National Association of Manufacturers in the early 1900s blurred the issue
that Schloss's anecdotal and sarcastic remarks about piecework came to be
viewed by textbook authors as some sort of  'well-established economic
principle' regarding working time.

Aside from its dubious genealogy, there are several things wrong with the
lump of labor fallacy as a fallacy. First, no one has ever bothered to, nor
could they, demonstrate (not just assert) that advocates of shorter work
time either typically do or must necessarily assume that there is a fixed
amount of work to be done. Without such a demonstration the charge of
fallacy is simply a red herring. Second, the various explanations given by
textbook authors for why the supposed fallacy is a fallacy do not jibe.
There is something essential missing in each of these explanations, which
perhaps explains why it is so necessary for the authors to ad lib. Finally,
a 'fixed amount of work' is not a logical absurdity however unrealistic it
may seem in light of empirical observation of past, long-term trends.
Economists make unrealistic assumptions all the time and call them
simplifying assumptions.

And speaking of simplifying assumptions, one was made by J.R. Hicks in 1932
to facilitate his analysis of economic growth. That was his assumption that
the given length of the working day was optimal. Hicks knew that his
simplification was, in a sense, counter-theoretical because he understood
and acknowledged the theory of the hours of labor as it had been presented
by Sir Sydney Chapman in 1909. In fact, Hicks referred to Chapman's analysis
as the classical statement of the theory of 'hours' in a free market. Of
course, nowadays economists continue to make the same simplifying assumption
without even realizing they are making an assumption, let alone that it runs
counter to the established (but untaught) economic theory. They wouldn't
think of asking what happens if they relaxed that unlikely, unacknowledged
and wholly unconscious assumption.

How pathetic. Economists remember and preach their ersatz lump-of-labor
fallacy but have forgotten Chapman's genuine analysis of the hours of labor.
Think of the arid circles policy debates must wander in if the single most
worker-friendly region of economic policy intervention were ruled 'out of
bounds' simply because economists refuse to critically examine a trivial bit
of textbook lore.

Tom Walker
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TimeWork Web deleted

2003-09-14 Thread Tom Walker
 It looks like vancouver community net has deleted timework web. I had
requested that they terminate my email account there because it got too much
spam. Apparently when they closed the email, they just deleted the entire
timework user file including the web pages.

Tom Walker
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Re: affluenza?

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Walker
Kenneth Campbell wrote:

You cannot let people have time... Yet I can think of
nothing I would treasure more.

According to an anonymous author writing in a pamphlet published in 1821:

After all their idle sophistry, there is, thank God! no means of adding to
the wealth of a nation but by adding to the facilities of living: so that
wealth is liberty -- liberty to seek recreation -- liberty to enjoy life --
liberty to improve the mind: it is disposable time, and nothing more.

According to Engels, Marx rescued that pamphlet from oblivion because it
inspired Marx's concept of surplus value. Marx mentioned the pamphlet in his
Grundrisse (page 706 in the 1973 Vintage Books edition) and, in some detail,
in his notes published as the Economic Manuscript of 1861-63 (page 388-91 in
Volume 32 Marx Engels Collected Works).

According to Michael Perelman, the author of the pamphlet was apparently
Charles Wentworth Dilke.

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Re: Showtime docudrama - DC 9/11: Time of Crisis

2003-09-01 Thread Tom Walker
Hmmm. Here's something new. For us furiners, the showtime URL Sabri gave is
intercepted by a lockout page with the following text:

We at Showtime Online express our apologies; however, these pages are
intended for access only from within the United States.

http://www.showtimeonline.com/movies/movies_product.cfm?titleid=119354

Only in America, you say? Pity.

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Re: technical question: help, help, help

2003-08-31 Thread Tom Walker
Michael,

I'm getting 100s of virus emails a day plus a large number of undelivered
mail notices for email I didn't send. None of it comes from my machine
because it uses a pine mailer on a unix server that I access through telnet.
So obviously my return address has been forged. I've also received virus
emails from three addresses I recognized as pen-l subscribers. Apparently,
some hacker or hacker-program has been forging pen-ler's addresses en mass.

Fortunately, my work email address is unscathed.

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FT: Fun w/ pension accounting tricks

2003-08-17 Thread Tom Walker
BACK PAGE - FIRST SECTION: US pensions sleight of hand is making investors
nervous

I'd like to see somebody's model of an economic recovery in which mortgage
rates remain eternally low but rates of return on pension assets snap back
smartly to late 1990s boom-time levels. The anti-gravity generator goes
right over there, next to the perpetual motion drive belt. Presumably it
runs on electricity. Cheap, clean and reliable. And if it doesn't work,
blame it on the weather. Who could have predicted it would get hotter?

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Re: futures market military intelligence (was Economists for sale. Make big bucks)

2003-07-29 Thread Tom Walker
Back in November '95, Michael Perelman posted an announcement to the Pen-L
list of an essay prize on the topic Privatization: has it gone far enough?
One of the organizers of the competition was Robin Hanson, also the
originator of the Policy Analysis Market currently in the news. I remember
because I won the $1,000 prize.

Market analysis of potential events - Nanodot:
http://nanodot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/28/0658256

PEN-L:1349] Economists for sale. Make big bucks:
http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/pen-l/1995m11.b/msg00099.htm

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Re: No Googling quiz

2003-07-18 Thread Tom Walker
You googled? But you didn't answer 2. and 3.

Ian wrote:

What, is Lieberman's staff lurking on Pen-L?

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Re: No Googling quiz

2003-07-18 Thread Tom Walker
Ian wrote,

No. Enron hearings iirc.

That's two out of three. For the (partial) answer to number three, I'll
defer to NYT columnist, Thomas Friedman's possibly hyperbolic reference:

There are two superpowers in the world today in my opinion. Theres the
United States and theres Moodys Bond Rating Service. The United States can
destroy you by dropping bombs, and Moodys can destroy you by downgrading
your bonds. And believe me, its not clear sometimes whos more powerful.

For extra credit now (an open-ended question): what are activist
groups/scholars/journalists doing to comprehend and contest the superpower
influence of these private companies with government-conferred power?

(Hint: 1. the answer is not nothing and 2. I don't know the answer. That's
why I'm asking.)

Original questions:

 They are private companies, but the enormous scope of their influence
comes
 largely as a result of their government-conferred power.

 1. Who said it?
 2. What was the circumstances?
 3. Which private companies was s/he referring to?

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No Googling quiz

2003-07-17 Thread Tom Walker
They are private companies, but the enormous scope of their influence comes
largely as a result of their government-conferred power.

1. Who said it?
2. What was the circumstances?
3. Which private companies was s/he referring to?

NO GOOGLING!

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Re: intellectuals as intellectual property

2003-06-25 Thread Tom Walker
Could Labor History now be considered *fictitious* capital? Aren't you glad
that cows can't fly?


Michael wrote,

I got this from the H-Labor list.  What interests me is the way that
such work becomes transformed into property.

From:   Nelson N. Lichtenstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Nelson Lichtenstein  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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The cog stripped bare by its bachelors, even

2003-06-24 Thread Tom Walker
1. Downloading the Future of TV Advertising

In April 2003, Honda U.K. debuted an extraordinary two-minute television
advertisement called 'Cog.'...

2. Apropos of 'Readymades' - Marcel Duchamp

In 1913 I had the happy idea to fasten a bicycle wheel to a kitchen stool
and watch it turn



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Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-24 Thread Tom Walker
Kenneth Campbell wrote:


 Rather, those spouting conventional wisdoms are able to be more easily
 understood in the small space of time they will get on camera.

Or, to cite the Far-Sighted Manifesto by Francis Picabia, worn by Andr
Breton on a sandwichboard:

POUR QUE VOUS AIMIEZ
QUELQUE CHOSE IL FAUT
QUE VOUS L'AYEZ VU et ENTENDU
DEPUIS LONGTEMPS tas D'IDIOTS


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interesting quote

2003-06-24 Thread Tom Walker
I'm sure he must have meant to say ... mis-spent they youth in
*masturbating* the intricacies...

Paul Samuelson sneers at the sterile verbalizations by which economists
have tended to describe fertility decisions in terms of the jargon of
indifference curves, thereby tending to intimidate non-economists who have
not mis-spent their youth in mastering the intricacies of modern utility
theory.'

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Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Science World here in Vancouver runs a continuous loop of the 1987 Fischli
and Weiss film The Way Things Go. The borrowings of the Honda ad from the
film are obvious to anyone who has viewed both. What is also obvious -- and
ominous -- are the non-borrowings: the autotalitarian elision of the
gritty, angst-ridden edge that the original had. There is a definite sense
of futility, debris and impending 'technological' lurching out of control to
the original that perhaps, come to think of it, is more appropriate for a
car ad than the sanitized white-painted walls and polished hardwood floors
of the Honda re-make.

Interesting that the Biz 2.0 article fails to mention the Fischli and Weiss
film. It's not as if the resemblance is a secret. For another take on The
Way Things Go, here's an excerpt from Arthur Danto:

http://www.postmedia.net/999/fischweiss1.htm

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Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Or, digging deeper into the ruins...

Homage to New York 1960

http://www.artmuseum.net/w2vr/archives/Kluver/00_Homage.html

I asked Jean what I could do for him. Jean explained that he wanted to make
a machine that destroyed itself and that he needed bicycle wheels...

...It was all over in 27 minutes. The audience applauded and descended on
the wreckage for souvenirs. Jean called the event Homage to New York.

Prophecy?


Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Carrol Cox wrote,


 This high and higher efforts that Danto speaks of, leading to chaos,
 must owe something to Laurel and Hardy as well. And of course Chaplin's
 Modern Times. In fact to much of the great slapstick, 1915-1940.

Yes, also constructivism and dada. As Walter Benjamin wrote: Modernity; the
time of hell. The punishments of hell are always the newest thing going in
this domain. What is at issue is not that the same thing happens over and
over (much less is it a question here of eternal return), but rather that
the face of the world, the colossal head, precisely in what is newest never
alters --  that this newest remains, in every respect, the same


Re: Susceptibility to Marx

2003-06-17 Thread Tom Walker
From each according to his need...

I believe that Marx got it from Louis Blanc who adapted a slightly different
notion from the St. Simonists. The basic idea is biblical.

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Re: Falsifiability and the law of value

2003-06-14 Thread Tom Walker
A cynic is one who knows the price of everything and the value of
nothing. -- Oscar Wilde

The law of value -- whether right or wrong, scientific or not -- is only one
side of the story, on the other side of which is to be found the dynamic,
might I say anti-capitalist, kernal. The other side is that value is not
real wealth. From the perspective of real wealth, the transformation problem
is trivial. The basic statement of the problem -- from an anonymous 1821
pamphlet, _The Source and Remedy of the National Difficulties, Deduced from
Principles of Political Economy, in a Letter to Lord John Russell._ -- could
probably better be understood as allegorical rather than 'scientific' in
either intent or execution.

Keynes said he would rather be vaguely right than precisely wrong. The
non-identity of value and real wealth is vaguely right whether or not value
is precisely determined by the quantity of socially necessary labour time
embodied in the sum of commodities. One might add that since the qualifier
of social necessity is itself vague and hugely transitory, there could be no
way of verifying the proposition empirically. The world or social formation
in which socially necessary labour time determines value has never
empirically existed. Nor is there a frictionless plane that I am aware of.
Have I overlooked one? If I have, please send me the coordinates for it so I
can build my perpetual motion machine. I will call it Capital.

So what is real wealth? That is the big problem. According to said
pamphlet, cited with enthusiastic approval by Marx, real wealth is
disposable time and nothing more. That is to say, real wealth is free time.
Period. So what, then, is free time? Is it free time when an unemployed
worker is looking for work? Is it free time when an exhausted employee is
slumped in front of a television set staring at commercial messages? Is it
free time when a commuter is inching along in rush hour traffic? In other
words, does free time indicate merely the absense of a direct wage and
consequently a vacation from the realm of production and accumulation of
surplus value. On the contrary, one would suppose that such colonized time
is less free even than waged labour time.

Is there anyone out there who agrees that the problem of free time is _the
problem_ and the solution of transformation equations offers no solution to
the problem of free time?

How far my own opinions will be conclusive with your Lordship's, I dare not
hazard a conjecture; but as many of them are uncommon, they may, as Hume
says, 'repay some cost to understand them.' But, my Lord, if they are true,
they have most important consequences; I therefore earnestly intreat you not
to reject them without a patient and attentive examination. -- anonymous
Post-Ricardian pamphleteer

http://www.vcn.bc.ca/timework/remedy.htm

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Re: Weber the 'Euroslackers'

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Walker
Yes, total rubbish. To add insult to injury, Ferguson mentions vindication
of Weber several times. To judge from the article, Ferguson either never
read Weber's book or read it so long ago as an undergrad that he has only
the vague idea that it had something to do with the work ethic and
protestantism.

Weber's concluding quotation from Goethe (I believe it was) is apt:

Specialists without spirit, sensualists without heart; this nullity
imagines that it has attained a level of civilization never before
achieved.

Ian Murray wrote,

[lord what rot]

[NYTimes]
June 8, 2003
Why America Outpaces Europe (Clue: The God Factor)
By NIALL FERGUSON


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Re: American dream (phantasmagoria)

2003-04-03 Thread Tom Walker
Mark Tran in the Guardian:

The gloomy economic data reflect a fundamental reality that the markets seem to be 
overlooking as they follow the headlines from
the war. The US is still struggling to shake off the huge investment boom of the 1990s 
as corporations loaded themselves up with
large amounts of debt.

Working out those excesses is taking longer than most people thought. Even if US 
forces march into Baghdad in the next few days
(we'll leave the complicated aftermath for now), the nasty economic facts of life will 
reassert themselves. Don't be surprised if
the markets start sinking again.

Me:

The scenario brings to minds the gamblers' strategy of the martingale -- doubling the 
stakes after each loss in the erroneous belief
that the laws of probability 'have memory' and in blissful ignorance of exponential 
progression. Taking Baghdad will play a card so
high and wild that [the U.S]. will never have to play another.

Walter Benjamin cites Alfred Marquiset, iJeux et joueurs d'autrefois/i., 1789-1837:

Possesed of nothing more than a perfect knowledge of martingales, series, and 
intermittences, they sat in the gambling dens from
opening to closing time and ended their evening in those grottoes of bouillotte [a 
pre-curser to poker] nick-named Baural houses.
Always on the lookout for novices and beginners..., these bizarre professors dispensed 
advice, talked over past throws of the dice,
predicted the throws to come, and played for others. In the event of losses, they had 
only to curse the toss or put the blame on a
drawn game, on chance, on the date of the month if it was the thirteenth, on the day 
of the week if it was Friday. In the event of a
win, they would draw their dividend, over and above what they skimmed during their 
management of the funds -- a transaction which
was known as 'feeding the magpie.' These operators divided into different classes: the 
aristocrats (all colonels or marquis of the
ancien regime), the plebians born of the Revolution, and finally those who offered 
their services for fifty centimes.

Patriotism consists of picking up the tab for the freebooters.

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re: American dream: time v. money

2003-04-02 Thread Tom Walker
In a recent lecture, Richard Layard cited a pair of studies one of which showed a 
relative preference for income and the other an
absolute preference for time. For example, given the choice between making $40,000 
when the average income was $80,000 or $20,000
when the average was $10,000 people preferred the latter. But given the choice between 
4 weeks of vacation when the average was 8
week or 2 weeks when the average was 1 week, people chose the former.

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Re: New Fisk Article

2003-04-01 Thread Tom Walker
Robert Fisk wrote,

Because I rather think that this war's
foundations were based not on military planning but on
ideology.

I would be hard pressed to identify the 'ideology' at the foundation. I think it would 
be more useful to describe the guiding
motivation as an 'aesthetic', in a pseudo-Wagnerian sense. The Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz 
crowd who _composed_ this horrific Gesamtkunstwerk
seem to have been drawn to the aesthetics of 'shock and awe', blitzkreig, decapitation 
and liberation (with beautiful young [blond?]
girls throwing flower petals beneath the feet of the liberators, no doubt). The 
fantasized 'beauty' of their war to these 'artists'
no doubt convinced them that it just had to work.  Keep in mind what Karlheinz 
Stockhausen said about the 9/11 attacks being the
greatest work of art. The architects of the Iraq invasion apparently thought that 
with their vast arsenal of special 'fx' they
could, at the very least produce the greatest spectacle ever.


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Can't bomb Iraq and tell us to talk to Pak, India tells US

2003-03-26 Thread Tom Walker
Dear Dubya-Dubya III  Duce bin Ledeen,

Unlike your designated demon, Saddam Hussein, India and Pakistan have nukular 
weapons of mass destruction. Maybe after taking
out Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia, you'll have enough cruise tomahawks and humvees 
left for a quick sweep across the sub-continent?

New Delhi, March 25: India on Tuesday countered the renewed call by the US for 
resumption of talks with Pakistan, asking why
military action was resorted to against Iraq and Afghanistan instead of dialogue to 
resolve the crisis confronting the two
countries. If dialogue per se is more critical than combating international terrorism 
with all necessary means, then one can
legitimately ask why both in Afghanistan and Iraq military action instead of dialogue 
has been resorted to, External Affairs
Ministry spokesman told reporters.

He was asked about remarks made by US State Department spokesman Richard Boucher in 
Washington that violence will not solve
Kashmir's problems. Dialogue remains a critical element in the normalization of 
relations between India and Pakistan.

Chickens. Home. Roost.

Duct tape is for dummies; stock up on piano wire.

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Ledeen's feral nihilism

2003-03-26 Thread Tom Walker
Max Sawicky wrote,

Interestingly, in the neo-conservative circles in which he runs, Ledeen is
known not so much as an Iraq-hawk, but rather as an Iran-hawk.

Ledeen's 1985 _Grave New World_ is chock-a-block full of recrimination at what he saw 
as the Carter administration's loss of Iran.
Sort of a who lost China? redux.Viewing the invasion of Iraq as a prelude to massive 
presure on Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia
actually makes more sense -- albeit a macabre and megalomaniacal sense -- than the 
feeble WMD, 12 years is enough, Saddam is a
tyrant, al Qaeda link official justifications. Remember, the speech writers just threw 
in North Korea so it wouldn't look like Bush
was singling out Islamic countries.

This farce would be funny if it wasn't so murderous. Or to torture the tragedy/farce 
cliche, what would the repetition be to a
mourning play [trauerspiel]?

The right used to talk about overcoming the Vietnam Syndrome, the reluctance to 
resort to armed conflict. I think what Ledeen
wants to overcome could be thought of as the World War I/World War II/Hiroshima 
Syndrome, the reluctance to engage in total war for
the glory of war. It will be interesting to see if our poet-warrior spends the 
duration sitting on his freedom chair at the AEI or
if he takes up arms in middle age like his idol D'Annunzio (supposedly). I hope if he 
does, he shaves his head first so we can
admire the glint of desert sun reflecting off his sublime cranium.

I'm not an expert on D'Annunzio. Ledeen is. But from reading Ledeen's account of 
D'Annunzio's exploits, it strikes me that they may
well have been fictional -- sort of an earlier tail-gunner Joe from the days when it 
would be easier to fake and harder to expose
such histrionics (or perhaps not?). In a similar vein, when I read Ledeen's September 
13, 2001 NRO column Who Killed Barbara Olson
the prose struck me as eerily, calculatedly overwrought.

http://www.nationalreview.com/contributors/ledeen091301.shtml


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Re: From goofy dream to reality?

2003-03-25 Thread Tom Walker
Ken Hanly wrote,

 This ass sits on a freedom chair?

 Cheers Ken Hanly


 New York Sun   March 19, 2003

 After Baghdad, Tehran, Damascus, Riyadh

 Michael A. Ledeen*

This ass, Ledeen, is a scary character. To some extent, it may be that his function is 
to run up trial baloons of how much the
administration can get away with. He's independent but very, very well connected -- 
Perle, Wolfowitz, Abrams, et.al. He was the
consultant sent by McFarlane during Iran-Contra to meet with Peres to coordinate 
intelligence cooperation  between Israel and U.S.
on making back channel overtures to Iran.

In early May of 1985, Michael Ledeen, a part-time consultant to the NSC, obtained 
National Security Adviser Robert McFarlane's
approval to meet in Israel with Prime Minister Shimon Peres to explore whether Israel 
would share information on Iran with the
United States.

According to Ledeen, Peres expressed displeasure with Israel's intelligence on Iran 
and suggested that the United States and Israel
should work together to improve their information about and policies toward Iran. He 
also mentioned a recent Iranian request to buy
artillery shells from Israel. Israel would grant the request, Peres said, only if the 
United States had no objection. Ledeen agreed
to relay the question of the proposed weapons sale to McFarlane. (Footnote: For a more 
detailed discussion of these events, see
McFarlane chapter.)

Ledeen's wife Barbara was a key player in the astro-turf battle to win confirmation 
for Clarence Thomas, her organazation
subsequently morphed into the Independent Women's Forum and reportedly played a 
major role in promoting the Clinton impeachment
thingy that Hillary referred to as a right-wing conspiracy. There are a number of 
reports on Ledeen's exploits that I won't repeat
because I have no idea about the reliability of some of the sources and others are 
ones I wouldn't be caught dead citing, Anyone
who's interested can satisfy themselves with Google searches on Ledeen and P2 or Billy 
Carter or Achille Lauro.

Ledeen studied fascism and wrote several books on it in the 1970s. One that I'm 
reading, The First Duce: D'Annunzio at Fiume, seems
almost adulatory of the poet-warrior. I would go out on a limb and say that Ledeen's 
politico-aesthetic vision as reflected in his
study of D'Annunzio is the most coherent, if blood curdling, rationale I've seen for 
current Bush policy. It doesn't reduce down to
war is beautiful, but that's probably close enough.

Ledeen is a contributing editor to National Review. A guest contribution to NRO is 
Gabriel Ledeen, who I would hazard a guess is his
son and would speculate is named after Gabrielle D'Annunzio. I suppose when the AEI 
endows a freedom chair, they have in might a
certain kind of aesthetic freedom exemplified by the phrase, Fiat ars -- pereat mundus.

Tom Walker



Re: Rumsfeld's written repentance

2003-03-12 Thread Tom Walker
There's another, less optimistic construction that can be put on this: Rumsfeld's 
happy little blunder was not a blunder but a
staged gesture to confirm the Mandelson scenario of arrogant unilateralists v. noble 
multilateralists and rally sympathy for poor,
beleagured good cop Tony Blair. The way the U.S. media is stage managed these days, I 
would be skeptical about any message that gets
out from the administration that isn't on message.

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Re: Sy Hersh on news

2003-03-12 Thread Tom Walker
And according to this story, Perle is threatening to sue Hersh for libel -- England 
where the libel laws put a severe onus of proof
on the defendent

http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMailType=text/htmlPath=NYS/2003/03/12ID=Ar00200


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Bizarre Mandelson hall of mirrors

2003-03-10 Thread Tom Walker
By Peter Mandelson's curious logic there are really three forces at play in the Iraq 
debate: multilateralists (good),
unilateralists (bad) and multipolarists (irrelevant). The real struggle is between 
the good multilateralist -- Blair and Powell --
and the bad unilateralists, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Cheney. The foolish multipolarists 
should line up behind the good
multilateralists to defeat the bad unis. Oh yes, and buy this used car from me before 
some crook tries to sell it to you.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,911187,00.html

Perhaps Mandelson has been staring too long at one of those Escher drawings where 
people climb up and up and up an optical illusion
staircase. The illusion is indeed clever. But anyone who insisted on constructing a 
building on those architectonic principles
should be laughed out of the room. Three-dimensional space cannot be relied on to obey 
the principles established by
two-dimensional representational perspective.

If Mandelson believes such extravagant cleverness, he is a fool. If he doesn't, he is 
a charlatan.

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Re: UK nuclear evidence a fake

2003-03-08 Thread Tom Walker
Deception is not new but as Chris's 'post modern' suggests, there is something new 
about the deployment of deception here. My point
of reference would be Enron: Enron, Enron. Enron, WorldCom, Tyco, etc.,etc.,etc.

What I allude to is a political economy OF deceit, not simply a political economy with 
deceit. Just-in-time inventory management is
primitive accumulation masqueradiing as the production of surplus value. In this 
_last_ stage_of_capitalism_plus_one, the form of
the subsumption of labour under capital is, literally off the balance sheet and it 
is this fundamental corruption of the mode of
production that ultimately finds its ideological expression in the off balance sheet 
accounting of an Enron.

We are undergoing the fall of the other shoe, the first shoe of which was the 
collapse of the accounting system of the Soviet
Bloc. Few have noticed that the reasons for the collapses of the respective accounting 
systems are actually one reason. Falsehood
was no longer incidental but integral to expanded reproduction and accumulation on the 
basis of the old relations of production. The
fruit has gone from being over-ripe to being putrid.

 Chris Burford,

 But what Blair and Campbell did was to take somewhat dubious sources and dress them 
 up without giving references or checking
 sufficiently. I do not think this is quite Machiavelli. It is about management of 
 perceptions in the 21st century. A cavalier
 attitude to the relative nature of truth can backfire.




re: from god to gdp; from lump of Layard to leisure

2003-03-07 Thread Tom Walker
Whoa! Shiver me timbers. Quickly skimming through Richard Layard's second lecture of 
three I am getting the impression that he is
inadvertently stumbling over insights that the turn of the last century Cambridge 
economists took as axiomatic. That is before the
ban on comparing utilities came into effect.

Layard is one of the economists I took to task a few years ago for his lump of 
labour triumphalism -- a giddy celebration of the
trivial observation that there is not a fixed amount of work. Finally, he notices 
that growth does not heal all wounds. This is
quite remarkable.

Even more remarkable, to me,  is point 3 in his summation, corrective taxation is 
needed if my work-life balance is to be
efficient. This should be a key doctrine of the Third Way. The owl of Minerva takes 
flight! Or is there perhaps a swan of Minerva
that might break out in song?

http://cep.lse.ac.uk/

So what have I been saying?
1. If my income rises I am happier, especially in the short term.
2. But this makes others less happy and the effect on me fades in ways I did not 
foresee.
3. So corrective taxation is needed if my work-life balance is to be efficient. This 
should be a key doctrine in the Third Way.
4. We ought not to encourage income comparisons and the zero-sum struggle for rank.
5. External incentives can undermine our internal motivation to do good work. So PRP 
should be used only with care.
6. Advertising should be controlled, especially towards children.
7. We should redistribute income towards the poor.


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Go... Read... NOW! Rowley letter to FBI Director

2003-03-06 Thread Tom Walker
Rowley letter to FBI Director

http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/3738192.html

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Federal Times

2003-03-05 Thread Tom Walker

POLL 
Do you think your agency has adequate oversight of its contractors?
Yes  8 % (101) 
No  92 % (1,102) 
Total votes: 1203 

 http://federaltimes.com/index.php?showresults=true


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DiaMat redux.

2003-03-05 Thread Tom Walker
Analysts say both the poor and the rich share a longing for an iron-fisted leader. 
'The poor want a Stalin to make short shrift of
their enemies, the rich, while the latter want a Stalin to keep the poor at bay,' said 
Prof. Dzarasov.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/stories/2003030600831500.htm

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Re: Next

2003-03-03 Thread Tom Walker
Max wrote,

If it's not too obvious, there is now a huge anti-war movement.

There is indeed a huge anti-war movement, but underneath my own personal NO WAR slogan 
is a long-standing critique of the cultural
slagheap, political charade and actuarial abyss that has made this war (and the next 
one, and the next one...) so necessary for the
ruling pretenders (it would be extravagent to call that gaggle of snake-oil Bonapartes 
a class).

What we are seeing is analogous to a bankrupt who embezzles to cover-up the bankruptcy 
and then burns down the warehouse to cover-up
the embezzlement. Next the bankrupt/embezzler/arsonist expects to collect on an 
insurance policy whose premiums were paid with
counterfeit bills.

A military victory for the U.S. is inevitable, at least to the extent that the type 
has already been set on the wire stories that
affirm the triumph, regardless of what actually happens. We may as well resign 
ourselves to never knowing what really happened once
the shooting starts. It's in the can. All we will know is what we will experience 
directly in the form of repression and privation.

It ain't gonna be pretty.

The warehouse fire will not magically restore the bankrupt to prosperity. The task of 
the anti-war movement will be to understand
and explain why the war itself was not the sole cause of the hardships -- to pin the 
PNAC tail on the (emblematic) Enron donkey, so
to speak.

Keywords: Bankrupt, embezzlers, arsonists.

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IMF technical assistance advisor nabbed in Argentina

2003-02-17 Thread Tom Walker
IMF man facing graft charge bailed in Argentina
Reuters, 02.15.03, 5:45 PM ET

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (Reuters) - An International Monetary Fund employee, arrested 
on corruption charges linked to his stint as
Peru's economy chief under disgraced ex-President Alberto Fujimori, was freed on bail 
Saturday pending checks on whether he will
face extradition, a court official said.

Jorge Baca Campodonico, Peru's economy minister from June 1998 to January 1999, was 
arrested Thursday by Interpol on charges police
say are linked to Peru's ex-spy chief, Vladimiro Montesinos, in a case of misdirected 
public funds.

The IMF Friday voiced concern at the detention of its technical assistance adviser, 
who came to Buenos Aires as part of a mission
to review crisis-ravaged Argentina's fiscal accounts, and arranged legal 
representation for him.

He cannot leave the country, the court official said, adding Baca Campodonico had 
paid around $10,000 bail. The Federal Judge
overseeing the case was trying to ascertain whether he had diplomatic immunity.

Baca Campodonico is accused by Peruvian authorities of illegally enriching himself and 
violating the public's trust. An Argentine
federal police spokeswoman said after his arrest that he was linked to the corruption 
network of Vladimiro Montesinos.

Federal Judge Rodolfo Canicoba Corral said Friday Baca Campodonico had a U.N. 
passport, but added that did not necessarily mean he
had diplomatic immunity. IMF officials benefit from such immunity depending on their 
rank and the jobs they were carrying out, he
added.

The Argentine government, which has only just managed to clinch a deal to delay having 
to pay nearly $7 billion in debt it owes the
fund in coming months after a year of tortuous negotiations, has sought to distance 
itself from the arrest.

Copyright 2003, Reuters News Service

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Re: British dossier sham

2003-02-07 Thread Tom Walker
Tonight, CBC's As it happens interviewed Glen Rangwala, the Oxford instructor who blew 
the whistle on the plagiarism. I've been
following the rather intense coverage this has been receiving in the UK press. The 
Friday press briefing from 10 Downing St. was
amazing, with the Prime Minister's Official Spokesman trying to brush it off as 
processology. But I wonder how is the U.S. media
playing it (or not)? Are they, as I would fear, putting it on a back page and hoping 
it will go away?


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Re: redistributionist liberals

2003-02-06 Thread Tom Walker
Holy Nassau Senior, Perelman! What will become of the morals of our children and young 
people if those auto workers are turned out
of the warm, pure atmosphere of the factory into the heartless and frivolous outer 
world?

Michael Perelman wrote,


 I am not sure that distribution should be at the center.  An auto worker
 with 30 hours of overtime makes a good wage, but probably does not lead a
 good life.  Marx said that all economics comes down to the economics of
 time.


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Re: the alienation of labor

2003-02-06 Thread Tom Walker
Not to romanticize peasant life or traditional popular culture, but it seems to me 
that in 1844 non-working time had a distinctive
character that marked it off as something other than merely not being at work. The 
development of capitalism has included the
manufacture of a leisure time and entertainment industry that pathologically 
complements working time in a such a way that the
worker no longer feels himself only when he is not working. Shopping is the core 
of this entertainment and is suspended from
both production and consumption. That is, one is not _using_ the commodity as per its 
ostensive use value at the time when one is
shopping for it. Presumably the purchase is a symbolic prelude to the enjoyment of the 
utility. But not necessarily and probably a
lot less than one would naively expect.

I suspect what I am trying to say is probably better explained in Oscar Wilde's The 
Picture of Dorian Gray. I'd better read it
first, though, to be sure.

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Oddly enough

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Walker
http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNewsstoryID=2174773

UN Cover-Up: Guernica Hidden as U.S. Speaks on Iraq
Wed February 5, 2003 11:35 AM ET
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - In a bold cover-up, the United Nations on Wednesday 
concealed behind a blue cloth and a row of flags the
world body's treasured tapestry of Guernica, the celebrated Picasso anti-war 
masterpiece.
The tapestry hangs outside the U.N. Security Council, where Secretary of State Colin 
Powell was presenting the U.S. case that Iraq
is hiding weapons of mass destruction and war may be needed to make sure it disarms.

But U.N. officials insisted no symbolism was intended in the decision to hide the 
tapestry.

The cover and flags were meant only to provide a strong visual clue to television 
cameras filming diplomats in the corridor, the
officials said.

Picasso's Guernica commemorates a small Basque village in northern Spain that was used 
by Germany for bombing practice for more than
three hours on April 27, 1937.

The raid killed or wounded some 1,600 civilians and left the village in flames for 
three days.


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The Tragedy

2003-02-04 Thread Tom Walker
Shuttle Disaster Hurts Retail Sales

Tue 10:07am ET - Reuters

Nonstop television coverage of the space shuttle Columbia disaster 
on Saturday kept riveted consumers away from stores, hurting retail
demand last week, according to a report released on Tuesday.

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Re: Imperial grief

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Walker
Excellent commentary, Carrol! Thank you.


I think the best commentary was written about 60 years ago -- Carrol

Deportee

The crops are all in and the peaches are rotting,
The oranges are piled in their creosote dumps.
You are flying them back to the Mexican border
To pay all their money to wade back again.


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Re: Art notes from all over

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Walker
April 26, 1937 was market day in the small city of Guernica, located in the Spain’s 
Basque region. On that terrible day, Hitler's
war planes, supporting General Franco and his troops that were engaged in the Spanish 
Civil War, bombarded the quiet city. Most men
had already left the city to fight at the front, leaving mostly women, children, and 
the elderly behind. The bombardment lasted for
three and a half hours, destroying 70 percent of the city and claiming 1600 lives, one 
third of the population.

...

THE Pentagon has drawn up a blueprint for a shock and awe air assault on Iraq which 
will concentrate on killing as many of its
leaders as possible and cutting the survivors off from contact with their troops in 
the field.

Military planners believe they can minimise allied casualties by targeting Saddam 
Hussein, his ministers and the command element of
his security services and Republican Guard divisions to stun the mass of the Iraqi 
army into either surrender or rebellion.

The strategy calls for two days of overwhelming aerial bombardment with up to 900 
Tomahawk cruise missiles and pinpoint strikes by
stealth bombers against leadership centres in Baghdad and Tikrit.

You will see simultaneous attacks on hundreds if not thousands of key points. No 
matter how they try to disperse, a large
percentage of the Iraqi senior commanders will be dead in the first few hours, Harlan 
Ullman, a military analyst at Washington's
centre for strategic and international studies, said yesterday. It's all designed to 
convince the ordinary Iraqi soldier that his
personal situation is hopeless and certainly beyond the control of Saddam and his 
cronies.
.
...

Guernica Reproduction Covered at UN

NEW YORK.- The Guernica work by Pablo Picasso at the entrance of the
Security Council of the United Nations has been covered with a curtain.
The reason for covering this work is that this is the place where
diplomats make statements to the press and have this work as the
background. The Picasso work features the horrors of war. On January 27 a
large blue curtain was placed to cover the work.

Fred Eckhard, press secretary of the U.N. said: It is an appropriate
background for the cameras. He was questioned as to why the work had been
covered.

A diplomat stated that it would not be an appropriate background if the
ambassador of the United States at the U.N. John Negroponte, or Powell,
talk about war surrounded with women, children and animals shouting with
horror and showing the suffering of the bombings.

This work is a reproduction of the Guernica that was donated by Nelson A.
Rockefeller to the U.N. in 1985.


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Shock and Awe: Guernica Revisited

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Walker
, he may soon find himself standing
shoulder-to-shoulder with Mr. Hussein and facing history's judgment as another 
ruthless leader who killed his own people in a mad
bid for power.



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Moron vows to persecute war criminals

2003-01-22 Thread Tom Walker
I just heard a clip of this on CBC. Presumably he meant prosecuted but one never 
knows, does one?

He said if an order is handed down to use such weapons, Iraqi forces must disobey. 
Should any Iraqi officer or soldier receive an
order from Saddam Hussein or his sons or any of the killers who occupy the high levels 
of their government, my advice is, don't
follow that order. Because if you choose to do so, when Iraq is liberated, you will be 
treated, tried and persecuted as a war
criminal, said President Bush.

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Re: Artificial economic inefficiency

2003-01-17 Thread Tom Walker
The technical name for it is fraud. The problem with using the technical name, 
though, is that when the state overtly sanctions a
fraudulent transaction, calling that transaction by its proper name may sound like 
hyperbole. The fraud consists of representing as
a sale what is in effect a rental. By building in the exclusive ink chip, the seller 
of the printer retains effectuve ownership of
it.

Bill Lear asked,

I'm curious what the technical name for this sort of barrier to
economic efficiency is.  Has anyone ever cataloged this sort of
thing?  I'd be very interested if so ...


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Re: A feeling robot sensor for soldiers in the field

2003-01-02 Thread Tom Walker
Fucking incompetents. Why not stick a catheter up the commander's ass and
when he shits himself they'll know he's in trouble.

 The human commander may get into trouble but be unable to ask for help,
 said Nilanjan Sarkar, team member and assistant professor of Vanderbilt
 University's Department of Mechanical Engineering.

 In cases like these his robot assistant will be able to detect his stress
 and either communicate the need for assistance or assist in some way
 itself.

 The robot's sensors consist of an electrocardiogram to record heartbeat, a
 skin sensor that can detect tiny changes in sweat production, an
 electromyography sensor that detects minute muscle activity in the jaw and
 brow, a blood-volume pressure sensor that measures the constriction on the
 arteries and a temperature sensor.

 The robot uses algorithms to translate the information it gets from the
 sensors into a format it can understand, Sarkar said. One of our most
 important claims is that the robot can process this information in real
 time.

 So far tests with the robot have proved promising. The machine responds on
 cue to signals of distress and approaches its human counterpart to ask if
 he's OK.

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Re: The Economist considers Karl Marx

2002-12-20 Thread Tom Walker
Louis Proyect wrote,

 It is astonishing, for example, that the Economist can say:

 Class war is the sine qua non of Marx. But the class war, if it ever
 existed, is over. In western democracies today, who chooses who rules,
 and for how long? Who tells governments how companies will be regulated?
 Who in the end owns the companies? Workers for hire--the proletariat.

Oh those proles, the lucky duckies: they own the companies, they tell the
government what to do, they choose who rules... and they don't even have to
pay taxes!

http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/12/19/boll/index.html?x

Could it be that the Wall Street Journal and the Economist have been
infiltrated by Onion satirists?

Tom Walker




Re: Sodexho-Workers-Colleges

2002-12-07 Thread Tom Walker
Ahmet,

I did a dossier on Sodexho for the B.C. Hospital Employees Union about 6
months ago. A copy of it is online at:

http://www.cupe.ca/downloads/sodexho_profile.pdf

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a poem stolen from a NYT article about IKEA

2002-12-02 Thread Tom Walker
the nicked veneers and wobbly joints of Ikea regret
self-assembled furniture
requires retightening over time
We sold screwdrivers like you can't believe.


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Re: War and property tax

2002-11-19 Thread Tom Walker
So what ever happened to the old custom of the king personally leading the
troops into battle?

Tom Walker




Left sweeps to victory in Vancouver

2002-11-17 Thread Tom Walker
From the CBC:

Real-life Da Vinci leads sweep in Vancouver elections

Last Updated Sun, 17 Nov 2002 9:54:49

VANCOUVER - A former Mountie and coroner who inspired a CBC Television
series won a landslide election on Saturday to become the next mayor of
Vancouver.

Larry Campbell, the real-life inspiration for the title character in the
crime drama Da Vinci's Inquest led his party to a sweeping victory in
municipal elections.

Despite rain and heavy winds, voters headed to the polls in huge numbers.
Turnout was markedly higher than in the last elections three years ago, and
among the highest in decades.

Campbell's left-wing Coalition of Progressive Electors (COPE) had its most
impressive showing since the party entered Vancouver politics in the 1960s.
In that time, it had never elected a mayor or held a majority on council.

This time, every COPE candidate running won. They won seats on the parks
board, the school board, and city council.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/11/17/vcr_elxn021117

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Re: economy in novels

2002-11-15 Thread Tom Walker
Oh, I almost forgot to mention Walter Brierley's The Sandwichman, 1937. I
recommended this one before in reply to a Pen-l thread a couple of years ago
on Workplace Literature. So I'll just recycle my 2 1/2 year old message:

Louis Proyect wrote or quoted:

Marx warned that, in a capitalist system, the worker becomes a
commodity, and indeed, the most despised of commodities. Saunders'
correction is that the worker becomes an advertisement, and, indeed, the
most wretchedly inarticulate of advertisements. . . 

I would like to here and now start a cult for a 1937 book by Walter
Brierley titled, The Sandwichman. Actually, I'd like to start a cult for
about 25 pages in the book, from 201 to 226, wherein the unemployed
protagonist, Arthur Gardner, temporarily works at two 'jobs'. The first
assignment is as the sandwichman of the book's title, advertising a sale
at a furniture store. The second is as an adult education night school
lecturer, presenting a series of six lectures on drama, one on
pre-Shakespearean, one -- or two, perhaps -- on Shakespeare, then
Restoration and the Romantic comedy in one, then two on the moderns.

As a sandwichman for the furniture store, Arthur wears a sign that
proclaims: SALE! SALE! SALE! LATHAM'S! LATHAM'S! LATHAMS!. His lectures,
in Fritchburn, a little village about half-way between Pirley and
Leawood, are advertised by an paper stuck to a bus-stop hoarding
announcing Arthur's name in large capitals and the subject of
that evening's lecture.

Arthur manages to delude himself into believing that hawking culture as
if it were furniture is somehow more 'respectible' than hawking furniture,
but other than the delusion, the former comes off as a more profound
humiliation than the former.


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Re: Economy in novels

2002-11-14 Thread Tom Walker
The Scarlet Empire, David M. Parry, 1906. This one is definitely not post
WWII, but it is notable for its explicit treatment of the point of view of
American right-wing industrialists. Parry was president of the National
Association of Manufacturers at the time he wrote the novel and the N.A.M.
was engaged in its infamous open shop campaign of union busting.  The
novel, set in the undersea socialist dystopia of Atlantis projects the dire
consequences of legislation establishing an eight-hour day.

For a stark contrast, pair that chestnut with Gabe Sinclair's _The Four Hour
Day_, 2000  http://www.fourhourday.org/, Taken together, the two novels
neatly bookend the 20th century and its distracted economic thinking. In my
view, they also clearly show why the central economic question is the
determination of the hours of work, not the determination of the prices of
commodities. To the extent that political economy focuses on the latter and
neglects the former, it is an exercise in mystification.

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RE: Aesopian Language on Maillists

2002-11-14 Thread Tom Walker
the death of Satan was a tragedy for the imagination
-- Wallace Stevens

Satan is NOT dead, 'e's just pinin' for the fjords.

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Re: outsourcing the State

2002-11-14 Thread Tom Walker
This is inherent to getting the taxpayers the best deal for their dollars
and the best service from the government, said Trent Duffy, spokesman for
the Office of Management and Budget.

It's called building a permanent Republican party gravy train. The only
thing inherent in the plan is the stench of corruption.

The Government Accounting Office has determined that public-private
competition will save taxpayers 30 percent on each contract.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! And they charged poor Andy Fastow for pilfering
the petty cash box! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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Re: Re: RE: Aesopian Language on Maillists

2002-11-14 Thread Tom Walker
Joanna Bujes wrote:

 well, wouldn't you be?
 
 Joanna
 
 At 05:50 PM 11/14/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 the death of Satan was a tragedy for the imagination
  -- Wallace Stevens
 
 Satan is NOT dead, 'e's just pinin' for the fjords.

Not really. I'm one hour away from 'em by bus, 40 min. by car.




Re: Negri explains the multitude

2002-11-13 Thread Tom Walker
...the multiplicity that refuses to represent itself in the dialectical
Aufhebung

Surely Negri means bong? Rhyzomatic is clearly an allusion to Guattari
and Deleuze. I would translate the passage as a whole to mean, roughly,
shit happens.Negri has presumably eschewed that more compact formulation
for the sake of avoiding its imminent reflexive implications.

I hope this helps.

As for Doug's worrying about wasting time on Negri and the Nation while the
U.S. is under the control of a frightening gang of lunatics hellbent on war
with a good bit of the world: shit happens, Doug. And time marches on.

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Re: Negri explains the multitude

2002-11-13 Thread Tom Walker
I wrote,
...shit happens, Doug. And time marches on.

Doug Henwood replied,
Oh, of course. Why didn't I think of that?

Presumably because you have other fish to fry and a hard row to hoe.

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Curious

2002-11-09 Thread Tom Walker
VNS Unable to Deliver Exit Polls

ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox News Channel -- anticipating possible problems with
exit polls -- each did last-minute telephone surveys to gauge voter
attitudes. Fox conducted its survey in 10 states on Monday night and Tuesday
and used some of those findings on the air.

VNS hired Battelle Memorial Institute, an Ohio-based technology company
that also works as a defense contractor to help build the new VNS system. A
Battelle spokeswoman declined comment on Tuesday's performance.

Ted Savaglio, VNS executive director, said he was disappointed with
Battelle's work. He wouldn't comment on VNS' future.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-eln-voter-news-service1106n
ov06,0,2579073.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

FBI Investigates Possible Financial Motive in Anthrax Attacks

DNA tests have confirmed that the spores used in the terrorist attacks are
genetically identical to a strain obtained by researchers at the U.S. Army
Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) at Fort
Detrick, Md., in about 1980. The Army has acknowledged distributing the
strain to five other agencies, and some of the strain was in turn shared
with other researchers.

The five labs that received the Ames strain from USAMRIID are the Army's
Dugway Proving Ground in central Utah; Battelle Memorial Institute in
Columbus, Ohio; the University of New Mexico's Health Sciences Center in
Albuquerque; the Canadian DRES; and Porton Down.

Battelle, a private contractor that has worked with the Pentagon in
developing defenses against biological attacks, is one of several labs
visited by FBI agents investigating the anthrax attacks. Katy Delaney, a
Battelle spokeswoman, said the company has cooperated fully with the
government's investigation.

FBI agents have interviewed people on our staff, Delaney said, but she
declined to provide information about the nature of the interviews or how
many Battelle employees had been questioned. I can say that we have
continued to provide all of the information and material that has been
requested by the government, Delaney said.

Battelle is a contractor at Dugway, which last week acknowledged making a
powdered form of anthrax to use in testing sensors and other equipment used
to defend against biological attacks.

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/FBIfinancialmotive.html




RE: Frontiers of rational expectations

2002-11-08 Thread Tom Walker
What I want to know is: is there any money in a correct prediction and if
there is, how does one collect if one is dead?


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