Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
At Monday, 20 August 2001, "Pitcher, George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] uk> wrote: >Guys, > >If the purpose of the first message which prompted this thread was to reduce >bandwidth, then it gives the impression that its ok to waste bandwidth >having a meaningless debate like this but not if it's to deal with a >newbie's request. > >just my 2c > >George, an English newbie in Scotland > I definetly agree with you, George! Cody -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
Guys, If the purpose of the first message which prompted this thread was to reduce bandwidth, then it gives the impression that its ok to waste bandwidth having a meaningless debate like this but not if it's to deal with a newbie's request. just my 2c George, an English newbie in Scotland Steve Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > sorry, > > my last post was aimed at B. van Ouwerkerk, not Marcel. > > Steve > > "Marcel Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. > com... > > Hmmm > > @B: In future... everything you send to me will go to /dev/spammer ... > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: B. van Ouwerkerk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 16:09 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing > > > . ! > > > > > > He got his answer.. didn't he? > > > > > > If ppl would bother enough to READ the FINE manual these PHP related > lists > > > > > > would have less then 70% of current traffic. > > > > > > >i'm sure B (as we all were) was a newbie at some point. > > > > > > Yes. But being a newbie is a lame excuse for NOT searching the manual. > > > > > > Now.. the rest of this thread is going /dev/null > > > > > > Bye, > > > > > > > > > > > > B. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
sorry, my last post was aimed at B. van Ouwerkerk, not Marcel. Steve "Marcel Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. com... > Hmmm > @B: In future... everything you send to me will go to /dev/spammer ... > > > -Original Message- > > From: B. van Ouwerkerk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 16:09 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing > > . ! > > > > He got his answer.. didn't he? > > > > If ppl would bother enough to READ the FINE manual these PHP related lists > > > > would have less then 70% of current traffic. > > > > >i'm sure B (as we all were) was a newbie at some point. > > > > Yes. But being a newbie is a lame excuse for NOT searching the manual. > > > > Now.. the rest of this thread is going /dev/null > > > > Bye, > > > > > > > > B. > > > > > > -- > > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
my point exactly > Yes. But being a newbie is a lame excuse for NOT searching the manual. who made you king of the castle ? Steve "Marcel Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. com... > Hmmm > @B: In future... everything you send to me will go to /dev/spammer ... > > > -Original Message- > > From: B. van Ouwerkerk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 16:09 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing > > . ! > > > > He got his answer.. didn't he? > > > > If ppl would bother enough to READ the FINE manual these PHP related lists > > > > would have less then 70% of current traffic. > > > > >i'm sure B (as we all were) was a newbie at some point. > > > > Yes. But being a newbie is a lame excuse for NOT searching the manual. > > > > Now.. the rest of this thread is going /dev/null > > > > Bye, > > > > > > > > B. > > > > > > -- > > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
hmmm, one slipped through. There is a difference between really trying and just send a message to a list with a question which is in the manual and very easy to find too. If you don't understand the manual it's alright to ask. Would be stupid if you didn't. Take a look at www.devshed.com .. some great tutorials and general info can be found there. Have fun. B. At 15:05 20-8-01 +0100, Mark Milaszkiewicz wrote: >A newbies opinion.. > >I'm just getting into PHP and MySql stuff at the moment, i own 2 books on >them, i have the manual on my Hard Drive, and its ok saying you should >consult these, but sometimes they seem to be written in gibberish, and also >the books only have in them what the author thought was useful, I wanted to >do a really basic online searchable database of all the dvds i owned, i was >looking thru PHP4, buy choi, kent, lea... you know the one, and couldn't >understand at all.. I bought a new book, and it helped a lot more, however, >i still wanted to clarify certian things, as it told me to do one thing, and >i didn't want it to do that. > >People like getting information out of other people, its all well and good >reading a book, or reading the manual, but if someone can say, this is how >you should do it, and it will work, its a lot better than being ignored, or >told to read the manual.. sometimes it just doesn't say it the way i want >to, so i need help. > >Its a public mailing list this, if you can help, great, brilliant, thats >what we need.. we don't need people to tell us not to do certian things, etc >etc. If you don't want to help, don't, just ignore the e mail, and hit the >delete button, there is no need to be arrogant or anything like that, cos >its not called for... > >Just my pov.. > >M -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH Dan > -- > From: Walter, Marcel > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:20 AM > To: 'B. van Ouwerkerk'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of > thing . ! > > Hmmm > @B: In future... everything you send to me will go to /dev/spammer ... > -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
Hmmm @B: In future... everything you send to me will go to /dev/spammer ... > -Original Message- > From: B. van Ouwerkerk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 16:09 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing > . ! > > He got his answer.. didn't he? > > If ppl would bother enough to READ the FINE manual these PHP related lists > > would have less then 70% of current traffic. > > >i'm sure B (as we all were) was a newbie at some point. > > Yes. But being a newbie is a lame excuse for NOT searching the manual. > > Now.. the rest of this thread is going /dev/null > > Bye, > > > > B. > > > -- > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
He got his answer.. didn't he? If ppl would bother enough to READ the FINE manual these PHP related lists would have less then 70% of current traffic. >i'm sure B (as we all were) was a newbie at some point. Yes. But being a newbie is a lame excuse for NOT searching the manual. Now.. the rest of this thread is going /dev/null Bye, B. -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just to put my own in. Allthough I have been programming php for a while I agree with Marky. Manuals are not allways clear and when starting it is often difficult to know what you need to look up. With regards to losing time reading posts surely it is faster to hit delete than go to the bother of making a patronising remark which puts off new comers and does not help to grow the php community. Andre. Mark Milaszkiewicz wrote: >A newbies opinion.. > >I'm just getting into PHP and MySql stuff at the moment, i own 2 books on >them, i have the manual on my Hard Drive, and its ok saying you should >consult these, but sometimes they seem to be written in gibberish, and also >the books only have in them what the author thought was useful, I wanted to >do a really basic online searchable database of all the dvds i owned, i was >looking thru PHP4, buy choi, kent, lea... you know the one, and couldn't >understand at all.. I bought a new book, and it helped a lot more, however, >i still wanted to clarify certian things, as it told me to do one thing, and >i didn't want it to do that. > >People like getting information out of other people, its all well and good >reading a book, or reading the manual, but if someone can say, this is how >you should do it, and it will work, its a lot better than being ignored, or >told to read the manual.. sometimes it just doesn't say it the way i want >to, so i need help. > >Its a public mailing list this, if you can help, great, brilliant, thats >what we need.. we don't need people to tell us not to do certian things, etc >etc. If you don't want to help, don't, just ignore the e mail, and hit the >delete button, there is no need to be arrogant or anything like that, cos >its not called for... > >Just my pov.. > >Marky > >>>-Original Message----- >>>From: Steve Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: 20 August 2001 14:49 >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing >>>. ! >>> >>> >>>i'm not a newbie. >>> >>>i program in php for a living. >>> >>>all i was saying was there are other people that will answer without >>>sounding so arrogant. it just seems so unwelcoming. not in the spirit of >>>things etc etc. >>> >>>i'm sure B (as we all were) was a newbie at some point. >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>"Michael Rudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>>001a01c1297c$08a04810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001a01c1297c$08a04810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >>> >>>>-Original Message- >>>> >>>>>From: Steve Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>>>Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:53 PM >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>Subject: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of >>>>>thing . ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>you know, i've been reading/contributing to this board for a >>>>>few months and >>>>>every now and again i see posts from B and now it's really >>>>>getting up my >>>>>nose. >>>>> >>>>>people come here to find answers. >>>>> >>>>>i still come here asking questions. >>>>> >>>>>i am totally sick of your RTFM answers, i knew the answer to >>>>>this also but >>>>>wouldn't consider demeaning the poster in this way. >>>>> >>>>>please stop doing it; if you feel you need to the refrain >>>>>from answering and >>>>>let someone else do it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Steve >>>>> >>>>Some time ago I wrote a little things to the newbies >>>>(to be found in the php-news-archive): >>>> >>>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-windows&m=99017650207323&w=2 >>>> >>>>Check the @all newbies - section. >>>> >>>>Please understand the pro's, too ! >>>> >>>>Happy programming, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>>Michael Rudel >>>>- Web-Development, Systemadministration - >>>> >>>>Besuchen Sie uns am 20. und 21. August 2001 auf der >>>>online-marketing-düsseldorf in Halle 1 Stand E 16 >>>>___ >>>> >>>>Suchtreffer AG >>>>Bleicherstraße 20 >>>>D-78467 Konstanz >>>>Germany >>>>fon: +49-(0)7531-89207-17 >>>>fax: +49-(0)7531-89207-13 >>>>e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>internet: http://www.suchtreffer.de >>>>___ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> > >
RE: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
A newbies opinion.. I'm just getting into PHP and MySql stuff at the moment, i own 2 books on them, i have the manual on my Hard Drive, and its ok saying you should consult these, but sometimes they seem to be written in gibberish, and also the books only have in them what the author thought was useful, I wanted to do a really basic online searchable database of all the dvds i owned, i was looking thru PHP4, buy choi, kent, lea... you know the one, and couldn't understand at all.. I bought a new book, and it helped a lot more, however, i still wanted to clarify certian things, as it told me to do one thing, and i didn't want it to do that. People like getting information out of other people, its all well and good reading a book, or reading the manual, but if someone can say, this is how you should do it, and it will work, its a lot better than being ignored, or told to read the manual.. sometimes it just doesn't say it the way i want to, so i need help. Its a public mailing list this, if you can help, great, brilliant, thats what we need.. we don't need people to tell us not to do certian things, etc etc. If you don't want to help, don't, just ignore the e mail, and hit the delete button, there is no need to be arrogant or anything like that, cos its not called for... Just my pov.. Marky >>-Original Message- >>From: Steve Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: 20 August 2001 14:49 >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing >>. ! >> >> >>i'm not a newbie. >> >>i program in php for a living. >> >>all i was saying was there are other people that will answer without >>sounding so arrogant. it just seems so unwelcoming. not in the spirit of >>things etc etc. >> >>i'm sure B (as we all were) was a newbie at some point. >> >>Steve >> >>"Michael Rudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>001a01c1297c$08a04810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001a01c1297c$08a04810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >>> -----Original Message- >>> > From: Steve Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>> > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:53 PM >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Subject: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of >>> > thing . ! >>> > >>> > >>> > you know, i've been reading/contributing to this board for a >>> > few months and >>> > every now and again i see posts from B and now it's really >>> > getting up my >>> > nose. >>> > >>> > people come here to find answers. >>> > >>> > i still come here asking questions. >>> > >>> > i am totally sick of your RTFM answers, i knew the answer to >>> > this also but >>> > wouldn't consider demeaning the poster in this way. >>> > >>> > please stop doing it; if you feel you need to the refrain >>> > from answering and >>> > let someone else do it. >>> > >>> > >>> > Steve >>> > >>> >>> Some time ago I wrote a little things to the newbies >>> (to be found in the php-news-archive): >>> >>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-windows&m=99017650207323&w=2 >>> >>> Check the @all newbies - section. >>> >>> Please understand the pro's, too ! >>> >>> Happy programming, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Michael Rudel >>> - Web-Development, Systemadministration - >>> >>> Besuchen Sie uns am 20. und 21. August 2001 auf der >>> online-marketing-düsseldorf in Halle 1 Stand E 16 >>> ___ >>> >>> Suchtreffer AG >>> Bleicherstraße 20 >>> D-78467 Konstanz >>> Germany >>> fon: +49-(0)7531-89207-17 >>> fax: +49-(0)7531-89207-13 >>> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> internet: http://www.suchtreffer.de >>> ___ >>> >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
i'm not a newbie. i program in php for a living. all i was saying was there are other people that will answer without sounding so arrogant. it just seems so unwelcoming. not in the spirit of things etc etc. i'm sure B (as we all were) was a newbie at some point. Steve "Michael Rudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 001a01c1297c$08a04810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001a01c1297c$08a04810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:53 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of > > thing . ! > > > > > > you know, i've been reading/contributing to this board for a > > few months and > > every now and again i see posts from B and now it's really > > getting up my > > nose. > > > > people come here to find answers. > > > > i still come here asking questions. > > > > i am totally sick of your RTFM answers, i knew the answer to > > this also but > > wouldn't consider demeaning the poster in this way. > > > > please stop doing it; if you feel you need to the refrain > > from answering and > > let someone else do it. > > > > > > Steve > > > > Some time ago I wrote a little things to the newbies > (to be found in the php-news-archive): > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-windows&m=99017650207323&w=2 > > Check the @all newbies - section. > > Please understand the pro's, too ! > > Happy programming, > > Mike > > Michael Rudel > - Web-Development, Systemadministration - > > Besuchen Sie uns am 20. und 21. August 2001 auf der > online-marketing-düsseldorf in Halle 1 Stand E 16 > ___ > > Suchtreffer AG > Bleicherstraße 20 > D-78467 Konstanz > Germany > fon: +49-(0)7531-89207-17 > fax: +49-(0)7531-89207-13 > e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > internet: http://www.suchtreffer.de > ___ > > -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
-Original Message- > From: Steve Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of > thing . ! > > > you know, i've been reading/contributing to this board for a > few months and > every now and again i see posts from B and now it's really > getting up my > nose. > > people come here to find answers. > > i still come here asking questions. > > i am totally sick of your RTFM answers, i knew the answer to > this also but > wouldn't consider demeaning the poster in this way. > > please stop doing it; if you feel you need to the refrain > from answering and > let someone else do it. > > > Steve > Some time ago I wrote a little things to the newbies (to be found in the php-news-archive): http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-windows&m=99017650207323&w=2 Check the @all newbies - section. Please understand the pro's, too ! Happy programming, Mike Michael Rudel - Web-Development, Systemadministration - Besuchen Sie uns am 20. und 21. August 2001 auf der online-marketing-düsseldorf in Halle 1 Stand E 16 ___ Suchtreffer AG Bleicherstraße 20 D-78467 Konstanz Germany fon: +49-(0)7531-89207-17 fax: +49-(0)7531-89207-13 e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] internet: http://www.suchtreffer.de ___ -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP-DB] please, please can we stop this kind of thing ..... !
you know, i've been reading/contributing to this board for a few months and every now and again i see posts from B and now it's really getting up my nose. people come here to find answers. i still come here asking questions. i am totally sick of your RTFM answers, i knew the answer to this also but wouldn't consider demeaning the poster in this way. please stop doing it; if you feel you need to the refrain from answering and let someone else do it. Steve "B. Van Ouwerkerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Buy a good book (PHP 4 Bible)!! read some tutorials!! And CHECK the > manual.. found at www.php.net what else did you think people created if > for.. http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.strings.php gives you all string > manipulation fun stuff you want. > > ucfirst() is the solution. > > And last but not least STOP crossposting. > > sql, mysql > > Bye, > > > B. > -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
