php-general Digest 20 Jul 2006 16:17:59 -0000 Issue 4249

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php-general Digest 20 Jul 2006 16:17:59 - Issue 4249

Topics (messages 239604 through 239635):

Re: ROZ pdf
239604 by: Chris

Re: Open Source mailinglist?
239605 by: Paul Scott

doubt - session file size
239606 by: suresh kumar
239607 by: Robert Cummings
239608 by: Chris
239634 by: Jochem Maas

Re: session_start/session_write_close creates multiple sessioncookieheaders. 
How to fix this.
239609 by: Mathijs
239610 by: Mathijs

Re: Return XML using PHP and Content-Type with UTF-8 breaks the UTF-8
239611 by: Mathijs
239612 by: Mathijs
239613 by: nicolas figaro

search string
239614 by: weetat

Re: Basic PHP knowledge test
239615 by: Finner, Doug
239618 by: Joe Wollard
239619 by: John Nichel
239620 by: John Nichel
239621 by: John Meyer
239624 by: Ray Hauge
239625 by: Jochem Maas
239626 by: Austin Denyer
239627 by: Robert Cummings

Difference between 2 time entries
239616 by: Chris Grigor
239617 by: nicolas figaro
239622 by: Chris Grigor
239623 by: John Meyer

Session breaks when form data submitted
239628 by: Jeffrey
239629 by: Ray Hauge

headers and newline at end of script
239630 by: Martin Marques
239631 by: Jochem Maas
239632 by: John Nichel
239633 by: Robert Cummings

Setting cookie on one domain for an other domain
239635 by: Peter Lauri

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weetat wrote:

Hi all,

 I am using EZpdf class to create pdf in mysql database . The Ezpdf 
class is open source tool for auto-creation of pdf in php , the link is 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdf-php


I have the problem with tool , the pdf page is blank , eventhough have 
some data in my MySQL database .


Ask on their forums.

http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=45168

We don't know the code so have no idea what's going on.

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On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 17:03 -0500, Jay Blanchard wrote:
 I can't seem to find any place on the net where you can discuss Open 
 Source-related questions in general???
 [/snip]
 
 Don't Sourceforge and Freshmeat have lists?
 

You could also join your local LUG, or a site like http://fsiu.uwc.ac.za
which is focused on PHP, Free Software and capacity building in Africa.
http://avoir.uwc.ac.za is similar, although tending more towards the
capacity and skills building side of things.

There are/should be mailing lists for most open projects that people
really don't mind you lurking on. Choose one and have some fun.

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Hi,
 I am having one doubt,i am using session variable for storing details.but 
i am afraid if there is around 1 users,wherether session will be able to 
store all the  datas of 1 users,as i know  abt session is that a temporary 
file will be created in /tmp directory with session id name,i dont know how 
much data that the session file will handle.
   
A.suresh


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On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 01:03, suresh kumar wrote:
 Hi,
 I am having one doubt,i am using session variable for storing details.
 but i am afraid if there is around 1 users,wherether session will
 be able to store all the  datas of 1 users,as i know  abt session
 is that a temporary file will be created in /tmp directory with
 session id name,i dont know how much data that the session file will
 handle.

See your php.ini for setting the path to where you want session files
stored. I don't believe there's a limit to the size of your session
files, that said, there IS a limit as to how much memory PHP is allowed
to consume, and this obviously places an implicit limit on the size of
the session files.

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] doubt - session file size

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 01:03, suresh kumar wrote:
 Hi,
 I am having one doubt,i am using session variable for storing details.
 but i am afraid if there is around 1 users,wherether session will
 be able to store all the  datas of 1 users,as i know  abt session
 is that a temporary file will be created in /tmp directory with
 session id name,i dont know how much data that the session file will
 handle.

See your php.ini for setting the path to where you want session files
stored. I don't believe there's a limit to the size of your session
files, that said, there IS a limit as to how much memory PHP is allowed
to consume, and this obviously places an implicit limit on the size of
the session files.

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Re: [PHP] doubt - session file size

2006-07-20 Thread Chris

Robert Cummings wrote:

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 01:03, suresh kumar wrote:

Hi,
I am having one doubt,i am using session variable for storing details.
but i am afraid if there is around 1 users,wherether session will
be able to store all the  datas of 1 users,as i know  abt session
is that a temporary file will be created in /tmp directory with
session id name,i dont know how much data that the session file will
handle.


See your php.ini for setting the path to where you want session files
stored. I don't believe there's a limit to the size of your session
files, that said, there IS a limit as to how much memory PHP is allowed
to consume, and this obviously places an implicit limit on the size of
the session files.


There could also be a limit on the number of files you can have per 
directory..


Maybe it's better to use your own custom session handler and store 
everything in a database.


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Re: [PHP] session_start/session_write_close creates multiple sessioncookieheaders. How to fix this.

2006-07-20 Thread Mathijs

Chris wrote:

Mathijs wrote:

Chris wrote:

Mathijs wrote:

Hello again,

I Use session_write_close() so the page loads quicker because i use 
session on multiple place.

This because session has protection for race conditions.

Now it works very well and i don't have any problems at all.
I only see that there are multiple session cookie headers set.
I Personally think that one is enough :P.

How can i make it so that it just sets just one and not set this 
header every time i call session_start or session_write_close.

Because i don't know when the cookie is set.


I think this will be an either/or situation.

Either it only sends one session cookie header and you don't use 
session_write_close all over the place..


or, it sends multiple cookies and you do use session_write_close all 
over the place.


The internals of php would set this behaviour, not something you can 
change without changing the C code.




Hmmm...
I find it kinda strange that it sets the same uniqueId with the same 
session name more then once.
It would be logical to just have one.. And overwrite the previous 
session cookie.

Any other thing would be an programmers fault in my opinion.
Because you can't have more then one session id per session cookie name.
Also, the browser won't send all the cookies back.
This is just useless overhead.

But it seems that i have to live with it (for now).
I think ill report this as an bug to PHP.


Doubt you'll get very far.

I could open 10 tabs in firefox and I'll have the same session id in 
each one, but they'll all be on different pages doing different things.


Even in IE, if I open a new page I'll get the same session id in both 
browser windows.



That is a good thing.
But the problem is that there are like 5 or 6 headers for one request.


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Re: [PHP] Return XML using PHP and Content-Type with UTF-8 breaks the UTF-8

2006-07-20 Thread Mathijs

Ray Hauge wrote:

On Wednesday 19 July 2006 09:27, Mathijs wrote:

Hello there,

I Have an problem with UTF-8 and XML.

I Output perfect XML (according to IE, Opera and Firefox).
I use the Content-Type header with text/xml; charset=utf-8.
For some reason this breaks UTF-8 output.
When i remove it it works. But i need the text/xml header.

If i save an document as .xml with the same contents as UTF-8 it works.

Is this a known problem?

Thx in advanced.


I would try just specifying UTF-8 in the XML header, and remove the charset 
from the content-type header, and just have the text/xml.


?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?

HTH



I have tryed this. But this also breaks the UTF-8.
When i put it back to text/html it works like it should :S.

I Realy have no clue anymore.


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Re: [PHP] Return XML using PHP and Content-Type with UTF-8 breaks the UTF-8

2006-07-20 Thread nicolas figaro

Mathijs a écrit :

Hello there,

I Have an problem with UTF-8 and XML.

I Output perfect XML (according to IE, Opera and Firefox).
I use the Content-Type header with text/xml; charset=utf-8.
For some reason this breaks UTF-8 output.
When i remove it it works. But i need the text/xml header.


Hi,
could you check which encoding your script is saved with ?
I saw some strange things when printing some iso-8859 strings with a php 
script

saved in utf-8.

N F

If i save an document as .xml with the same contents as UTF-8 it works.

Is this a known problem?

Thx in advanced.




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[PHP] search string

2006-07-20 Thread weetat

Hi all ,

 I am using php4.3.2,MYSQL and RedHat
 I have a sql text as shown below:


 SELECT 
DISTINCT(tbl_chassis.serial_no),tbl_chassis.host_name,tbl_chassis.chasis_model,tbl_chassis.country,tbl_chassis.city,tbl_chassis.building, 
tbl_chassis.other,tbl_chassis.status,tbl_chassis.chasis_eos,tbl_chassis.chasis_eol,tbl_chassis.chasis_user_field_1,tbl_chassis.chasis_user_field_2,tbl_chassis.chasis_user_field_3 
from tbl_chassis tbl_chassis,tbl_card tbl_card

WHERE tbl_chassis.serial_no = tbl_card.serial_no
AND tbl_chassis.chasis_model LIKE '%WS-C5500%'
AND lower(country) = lower(trim('Malaysia'))
ORDER BY country,city,building,other


I need to extract the tbl_chassis.chasis_model LIKE '%WS-C5500%' and 
lower(country) = lower(trim('Malaysia')) and join them to new string.


Anyone have any suggestion how to do this?

Thanks
-weetat

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RE: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread Finner, Doug
My advice, give the candidates problems and see how they solve them.
Even if they don't finish, you get an idea of how they think.
tedd

I like this idea! 

Do you expect them to be able to work with code written by others?  If
so, hand them some of your existing code (good examples and not so good)
and ask them to figure out what it does and recommend changes.

I really really like the 'give them a problem and have them solve it'
idea...

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[PHP] Difference between 2 time entries

2006-07-20 Thread Chris Grigor
Morning all,


I am looking to get the differnce in hours / minutes between 2 values.

Currently I have 2 time entries being retruned from mysql, one which is a
start time and
the other which is a finish time.

So

$start = '13:12:17';
$finish = '23:12:17';

How would one get the differnce between these 2 times??

I have looked at using the following but am not to sure



function timeDiff($firstTime,$lastTime)
{

// convert to unix timestamps
$firstTime=strtotime($firstTime);
$lastTime=strtotime($lastTime);

// perform subtraction to get the difference (in seconds) between times
$timeDiff=$lastTime-$firstTime;

// return the difference
return $timeDiff;
}

//Usage :
echo timeDiff($start,$finish);

Thanks

Chris

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Re: [PHP] Difference between 2 time entries

2006-07-20 Thread nicolas figaro

Chris Grigor a écrit :

Morning all,


I am looking to get the differnce in hours / minutes between 2 values.

Currently I have 2 time entries being retruned from mysql, one which is a
start time and
the other which is a finish time.

So

$start = '13:12:17';
$finish = '23:12:17';

How would one get the differnce between these 2 times??
  

IMHO, the best is to generate a timestamp using mktime for each date.
you can the calculate the difference of timestamps and convert it back 
using date.


$tm_start = mktime(substr($start,0,2),substr($start,3,2), 
substr($start,5,2));
$tm_finish = mktime(substr($finish,0,2),substr($finish,3,2), 
substr($finish,5,2));


$tm_diff = $tm_finish -tm_start;

print date(H:i,$tm_diff);

I don't know if date accepts negative timestamps, so be sure $finish is 
later than $start
(you can also put the day in case $finish = 00:00:12 and $start  
=15:00:00).


hope this'll help

N F

I have looked at using the following but am not to sure



function timeDiff($firstTime,$lastTime)
{

// convert to unix timestamps
$firstTime=strtotime($firstTime);
$lastTime=strtotime($lastTime);

// perform subtraction to get the difference (in seconds) between times
$timeDiff=$lastTime-$firstTime;

// return the difference
return $timeDiff;
}

//Usage :
echo timeDiff($start,$finish);

Thanks

Chris

  




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Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread Joe Wollard
To refine that a bit, you may want to give them some code that has  
been intentionally broken (simple things for the entry level  
position, such as missing semicolons or curly braces etc) and watch  
to see how they go about discovering the parse errors. To me, it  
would be better to hire someone that can solve problems quickly, not  
someone who can simply tell you what a piece of code is doing. Just a  
thought though - good luck!


-Joe

On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Finner, Doug wrote:


My advice, give the candidates problems and see how they solve them.

Even if they don't finish, you get an idea of how they think.

tedd


I like this idea!

Do you expect them to be able to work with code written by others?  If
so, hand them some of your existing code (good examples and not so  
good)

and ask them to figure out what it does and recommend changes.

I really really like the 'give them a problem and have them solve it'
idea...

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Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread John Nichel

Please reply to the list.

jekillen wrote:


On Jul 19, 2006, at 8:31 AM, John Nichel wrote:

We're looking to hire an entry level php programmer here, and I've 
been tasked with writing the test to evaluate the potential 
candidates. Being the lazy guy that I am, I naturally turned to Google 
to see if I could find some tests that I could use.  After clicking 
thru many links, and finding mostly 'basic php tutorials', I've come 
here to ask you people to do my homework for me.  ;)  Does anyone have 
any links/resources for a basic php knowledge test?  If not, I'll have 
to write one from scratch myself, and mess up the rest of my day of 
goofing off/sleeping.


What does $_POST['x'] mean?
What does $ in front of a string of chars without quotes mean?
That does register globals mean?
Is it possible to run php as a cgi script?
When it is necessary to use 'var' in php
code?
If you can't answer these questions how are you going to
know if someone is giving you the right answers?
There are tons of basic to advance books on the
commercial market about php.
I've gone the distance and shelled out literally 1,000 of
dollars buying books and hours learning the stuff. If you want answers
to your questions spend a little time so you will know if
someone has passed a test or not.


I've spent the past 8+ years 'going the distance' in PHP (quite a bit 
longer when you count in things like Perl, PASCAL, COBOL, etc), and 
shelled out about $25 on one PHP book.  The web is a far better, 
cheaper, and more up-to-date learning source.  However, I'm a geek, not 
some college kid who writes up documents so that HR can have a pretty 
piece of paper saying this guy knows the difference between '==' and '==='.


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Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread John Nichel

Finner, Doug wrote:

My advice, give the candidates problems and see how they solve them.

Even if they don't finish, you get an idea of how they think.

tedd


I like this idea! 


Do you expect them to be able to work with code written by others?  If
so, hand them some of your existing code (good examples and not so good)
and ask them to figure out what it does and recommend changes.



Most definitely.  This position isn't going to really require the person 
to write their own apps.  Most of the stuff he/she will be doing is 
maintaining code already in place.  Plenty of it will be my code, but 
prior to me starting here three years ago, they used to just get people 
on a contract basis, and there's some pretty messed up code.  They even 
contracted a job out to a couple of Russian programmers; code's pretty 
clean, but all the comments are in Russian.  ;)  I like the idea of 
giving them a piece of our existing code and getting them to do 
something with it...I'll just have to get HR to accept my word on how 
they did on it (they really want a question and answer sheet that they 
can 'grade').



I really really like the 'give them a problem and have them solve it'
idea...



Yeah, one of my earliest thoughts on this was to have them write 
something simple like connecting to a db, selecting multiple rows, 
parsing our the result, and displaying it in some fashion.


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Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread John Meyer

John Nichel wrote:


What does $_POST['x'] mean?
What does $ in front of a string of chars without quotes mean?
That does register globals mean?
Is it possible to run php as a cgi script?
When it is necessary to use 'var' in php
code?


I would probably agree that a problem would be better.  Here's an idea, 
have one of your HR people take some existing code and do something to 
it to give it a bug, then have the guy fix it, and see how close he 
comes to what's there.


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[PHP] Difference between 2 time entries

2006-07-20 Thread Chris Grigor
Morning all,


I am looking to get the differnce in hours / minutes between 2 values.

Currently I have 2 time entries being retruned from mysql, one which is a
start time and
the other which is a finish time.

So

$start = '13:12:17';
$finish = '23:12:17';

How would one get the differnce between these 2 times??

I have looked at using the following but am not to sure



function timeDiff($firstTime,$lastTime)
{

// convert to unix timestamps
$firstTime=strtotime($firstTime);
$lastTime=strtotime($lastTime);

// perform subtraction to get the difference (in seconds) between times
$timeDiff=$lastTime-$firstTime;

// return the difference
return $timeDiff;
}

//Usage :
echo timeDiff($start,$finish);

Thanks

Chris

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Re: [PHP] Difference between 2 time entries

2006-07-20 Thread John Meyer

|Found this on the PHP web site,
you can add the conversions as the first lines in the functions.

function callDuration($dateTimeBegin,$dateTimeEnd) {
 
$dif=$dateTimeEnd - $dateTimeBegin;


$hours = floor($dif / 3600);
$temp_remainder = $dif - ($hours * 3600);
 
$minutes = floor($temp_remainder / 60);

$temp_remainder = $temp_remainder - ($minutes * 60);
 
$seconds = $temp_remainder;
   
// leading zero's - not bothered about hours

$min_lead=':';
if($minutes =9)
  $min_lead .= '0';
$sec_lead=':';
if($seconds =9)
  $sec_lead .= '0';
 
 // difference/duration returned as Hours:Mins:Secs e.g. 01:29:32


 return $hours.$min_lead.$minutes.$sec_lead.$seconds;
 
  }

|
Chris Grigor wrote:

Morning all,


I am looking to get the differnce in hours / minutes between 2 values.

Currently I have 2 time entries being retruned from mysql, one which is a
start time and
the other which is a finish time.

So

$start = '13:12:17';
$finish = '23:12:17';

How would one get the differnce between these 2 times??

I have looked at using the following but am not to sure



function timeDiff($firstTime,$lastTime)
{

// convert to unix timestamps
$firstTime=strtotime($firstTime);
$lastTime=strtotime($lastTime);

// perform subtraction to get the difference (in seconds) between times
$timeDiff=$lastTime-$firstTime;

// return the difference
return $timeDiff;
}

//Usage :
echo timeDiff($start,$finish);

Thanks

Chris

  


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Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread Ray Hauge
On Thursday 20 July 2006 07:23, John Nichel wrote:
 Yeah, one of my earliest thoughts on this was to have them write
 something simple like connecting to a db, selecting multiple rows,
 parsing our the result, and displaying it in some fashion.

Don't forget making it secure.  Here is one of my questions people can use if 
they like.  Feel free to re-word it.  I'm a programmer, not a writer ;)

What change(s) would you make to the following code to make it more secure?

$id = $_GET['id'];
mysql_query(“DELETE FROM myTbl WHERE id = $id”);

I like this question, because they have to know at least the fundamentals of 
PHP security.

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Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Ray Hauge wrote:
 On Thursday 20 July 2006 07:23, John Nichel wrote:
 Yeah, one of my earliest thoughts on this was to have them write
 something simple like connecting to a db, selecting multiple rows,
 parsing our the result, and displaying it in some fashion.
 
 Don't forget making it secure.  Here is one of my questions people can use if 
 they like.  Feel free to re-word it.  I'm a programmer, not a writer ;)
 
 What change(s) would you make to the following code to make it more secure?
 
 $id = $_GET['id'];
 mysql_query(“DELETE FROM myTbl WHERE id = $id”);

/*
// removed security flaw
$id = $_GET['id'];
mysql_query(“DELETE FROM myTbl WHERE id = $id”);
//*/

;-)

 
 I like this question, because they have to know at least the fundamentals of 
 PHP security.
 

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Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread Austin Denyer
Ray Hauge wrote:
 
 Don't forget making it secure.  Here is one of my questions people can use if 
 they like.  Feel free to re-word it.  I'm a programmer, not a writer ;)
 
 What change(s) would you make to the following code to make it more secure?
 
 $id = $_GET['id'];
 mysql_query(“DELETE FROM myTbl WHERE id = $id”);

Believe it or not, I've lost count of how many times I've seen things
like this in Real Life.  SQL Injection waiting to happen...

 I like this question, because they have to know at least the fundamentals of 
 PHP security.

Agreed.

One thing I would add is to make sure they're familiar with the PHP
version you use.

Regards,
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Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 09:19, Jochem Maas wrote:
 Ray Hauge wrote:
  On Thursday 20 July 2006 07:23, John Nichel wrote:
  Yeah, one of my earliest thoughts on this was to have them write
  something simple like connecting to a db, selecting multiple rows,
  parsing our the result, and displaying it in some fashion.
  
  Don't forget making it secure.  Here is one of my questions people can use 
  if 
  they like.  Feel free to re-word it.  I'm a programmer, not a writer ;)
  
  What change(s) would you make to the following code to make it more secure?
  
  $id = $_GET['id'];
  mysql_query(“DELETE FROM myTbl WHERE id = $id”);
 
 /*
 // removed security flaw
 $id = $_GET['id'];
 mysql_query(“DELETE FROM myTbl WHERE id = $id”);
 //*/
 
 ;-)

You removed a lot more than the security flaw. No job for U!

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[PHP] Session breaks when form data submitted

2006-07-20 Thread Jeffrey
We have a site which requires users log in. Once they do so a session is 
created (session_start), some data is saved as session data, 
particularly data which identifies the user, their privileges, etc. If 
the session ends, breaks, etc. The user must log in again.


There are also forms on the site. When a user submits a form, data, both 
posted and session, is saved to a MySQL database.


If a session breaks when a user submits data via the form, the result is 
that the user must log in again, the data is lost and the user unhappy. 
This happens rarely - but when it does, it can upset the user who has 
put effort into completing the form.


Is there a simple yet secure way of preventing this problem - for 
example passing the session id  with the form and resurrecting the 
session if it has broken?


Thanks,

Jeff

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Re: [PHP] Session breaks when form data submitted

2006-07-20 Thread Ray Hauge
On Thursday 20 July 2006 09:09, Jeffrey wrote:
 We have a site which requires users log in. Once they do so a session is
 created (session_start), some data is saved as session data,
 particularly data which identifies the user, their privileges, etc. If
 the session ends, breaks, etc. The user must log in again.

 There are also forms on the site. When a user submits a form, data, both
 posted and session, is saved to a MySQL database.

 If a session breaks when a user submits data via the form, the result is
 that the user must log in again, the data is lost and the user unhappy.
 This happens rarely - but when it does, it can upset the user who has
 put effort into completing the form.

 Is there a simple yet secure way of preventing this problem - for
 example passing the session id  with the form and resurrecting the
 session if it has broken?

 Thanks,

 Jeff

To my knowledge, this particular behavior is by design.  After the time limit 
for a session has been reached, then the garbage collection will usually 
clean it up.  The only way to not break a session is to never clean up the 
session files, or set the timeout to a day or so.

I wouldn't suggest sending the PHPSESSID via a form.  That leads to people 
being able to hijack sessions

from file='php.ini'
; After this number of seconds, stored data will be seen as 'garbage' and
; cleaned up by the garbage collection process.
session.gc_maxlifetime = 1440
/from

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[PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Martin Marques

I'm looking for an opinion on programming style.

Basicaly, I make systems using PEAR::DB and PEAR::HTML_Template_IT. This 
last one puts all the HTML away from the PHP code, which has made life 
much easier.


Now, sometimes I warning messages like this one:

PHP Warning:  Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in

I know what it means, so I just look for newlines at the end of my PHP 
scripts, especially after the closing ? and delete them.


Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script with 
the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing PHP 
simbols, as this scripts are included?


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Re: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Martin Marques wrote:
 I'm looking for an opinion on programming style.
 
 Basicaly, I make systems using PEAR::DB and PEAR::HTML_Template_IT. This
 last one puts all the HTML away from the PHP code, which has made life
 much easier.
 
 Now, sometimes I warning messages like this one:
 
 PHP Warning:  Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in
 
 I know what it means, so I just look for newlines at the end of my PHP
 scripts, especially after the closing ? and delete them.
 
 Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script with
 the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
 PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?

I never add the final closing '?' in any script for this very reason.

whether it's bad practice or I don't know (can't be any worse than the
flamewar on internals@lists.php.net though ;-)

 
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Re: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread John Nichel

Jochem Maas wrote:

Martin Marques wrote:

I'm looking for an opinion on programming style.

Basicaly, I make systems using PEAR::DB and PEAR::HTML_Template_IT. This
last one puts all the HTML away from the PHP code, which has made life
much easier.

Now, sometimes I warning messages like this one:

PHP Warning:  Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in

I know what it means, so I just look for newlines at the end of my PHP
scripts, especially after the closing ? and delete them.

Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script with
the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?


I never add the final closing '?' in any script for this very reason.



'Cause you're a SLACKER!!!

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Re: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 11:30, John Nichel wrote:
 Jochem Maas wrote:
  Martin Marques wrote:
  I'm looking for an opinion on programming style.
 
  Basicaly, I make systems using PEAR::DB and PEAR::HTML_Template_IT. This
  last one puts all the HTML away from the PHP code, which has made life
  much easier.
 
  Now, sometimes I warning messages like this one:
 
  PHP Warning:  Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in
 
  I know what it means, so I just look for newlines at the end of my PHP
  scripts, especially after the closing ? and delete them.
 
  Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script with
  the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
  PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?
  
  I never add the final closing '?' in any script for this very reason.
  
 
 'Cause you're a SLACKER!!!

Some of the best coders are slackers... because they find better ways to
code to prevent having to write so much code :) But to answer the
question...

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-devm=106896286829744w=2
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-devm=106896382030183w=2

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Re: [PHP] doubt - session file size

2006-07-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Chris wrote:
 Robert Cummings wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 01:03, suresh kumar wrote:
 Hi,
 I am having one doubt,i am using session variable for storing details.
 but i am afraid if there is around 1 users,wherether session will
 be able to store all the  datas of 1 users,as i know  abt session
 is that a temporary file will be created in /tmp directory with
 session id name,i dont know how much data that the session file will
 handle.

 See your php.ini for setting the path to where you want session files
 stored. I don't believe there's a limit to the size of your session
 files, that said, there IS a limit as to how much memory PHP is allowed
 to consume, and this obviously places an implicit limit on the size of
 the session files.
 
 There could also be a limit on the number of files you can have per
 directory..

maybe there could be a limit to the number of emails the OP is allowed
to send without ever replying to anyone who offers a possible answer to
his question. :-)

 
 Maybe it's better to use your own custom session handler and store
 everything in a database.
 

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[PHP] Setting cookie on one domain for an other domain

2006-07-20 Thread Peter Lauri
Best group member,

 

When a user does a specific action on domain1.com I want a cookie to be set
so that domain1.com and domain2.com can reach it. Ok, after reading the
manual for setcookie() I tried this:

 

setcookie(thevariable, thevalue, time()+60*60*24*30, /,
.domain1.com);

setcookie(thevariable, thevalue, time()+60*60*24*30, /,
.domain2.com);

 

However, I can not detect the cookie at domain2.com.

 

A solution would be to just make a redirect to the other domain where the
cookie is set and then return.

 

Question is: Can I not set a cookie at domain1.com to work at domain2.com?

 

Best regards,

Peter Lauri

 

 



[PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Adam Zey

Martin Marques wrote:
  Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script 
with
the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing 
PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?


Yes.

Regards, Adam.

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[PHP] Escape Chars for MS Exchange/Outlook

2006-07-20 Thread Mike
I am using Ubuntu 6.06 Linux with PHP 5.1.4. I am using the phpmailer class.

I set the message body to be

$msgbody = $msgbody.'\r\rDate: '.$_REQUEST['date'].'\rName: 
'.$_REQUEST['lname'].', '.$_REQUEST['fname'].'\rReferral: 
'.$_REQUEST['referral'].'\rTelephone: '.$_REQUEST['tele'].'\rLoan Officer: 
'.$_REQUEST['lo'].'\r';

Over in theWindows world, the email takes it literally and keeps it in the 
message instead of giving me the desired effect.

This Lead came from an Info Call\r\rDate: 20060720\rName: \rReferral: Home 
Buyers Seminar\rTelephone: 1-123-4567\rLoan Officer: Dave Boxer\r

How can I get the CR that I want so each item is on a separate line?

TIA

Mike

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Re: [PHP] Difference between 2 time entries

2006-07-20 Thread tedd
At 1:51 PM +0200 7/20/06, nicolas figaro wrote:
IMHO, the best is to generate a timestamp using mktime for each date.
you can the calculate the difference of timestamps and convert it back using 
date.

$tm_start = mktime(substr($start,0,2),substr($start,3,2), substr($start,5,2));
$tm_finish = mktime(substr($finish,0,2),substr($finish,3,2), 
substr($finish,5,2));

$tm_diff = $tm_finish -tm_start;

print date(H:i,$tm_diff);

I don't know if date accepts negative timestamps, so be sure $finish is later 
than $start
(you can also put the day in case $finish = 00:00:12 and $start  
=15:00:00).

hope this'll help

N F


NF:

Not quite.

Your:

   substr($start,5,2)

should be:

   substr($start,6,2)

Your:

   $tm_diff = $tm_finish -tm_start;

Should be:

   $tm_diff = $tm_finish - $tm_start;

And lastly,

   print date(H:i,$tm_diff);

Doesn't print the hours and seconds that have elapsed.

I thought that php had a function where you could send it a number of seconds 
and it would return the number of years, months, days, hours and seconds, but I 
couldn't find any. But, date() doesn't.

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Re: [PHP] Difference between 2 time entries

2006-07-20 Thread tedd
At 12:41 PM +0200 7/20/06, Chris Grigor wrote:
Morning all,

I am looking to get the differnce in hours / minutes between 2 values.

Currently I have 2 time entries being retruned from mysql, one which is a
start time and
the other which is a finish time.

So

$start = '13:12:17';
$finish = '23:12:17';

How would one get the differnce between these 2 times??

I have looked at using the following but am not to sure

function timeDiff($firstTime,$lastTime)
{

// convert to unix timestamps
$firstTime=strtotime($firstTime);
$lastTime=strtotime($lastTime);

// perform subtraction to get the difference (in seconds) between times
$timeDiff=$lastTime-$firstTime;

// return the difference
return $timeDiff;
}

//Usage :
echo timeDiff($start,$finish);

Chris:

You're about there, you have the seconds, just add this:

$hours = floor($timeDiff/3600);
$timeDiff = $timeDiff - ($hours * 3600);
$minutes = floor($timeDiff/60);
$timeDiff = $timeDiff - ($minutes * 60);
$seconds = $timeDiff;
echo($hours);
echo(br/);  
echo($minutes);
echo(br/);  
echo($seconds);

I'm surprised that php doesn't have a function to do this -- but maybe I didn't 
RTFM enough.

In any event, hth's

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Re: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Jochem Maas
John Nichel wrote:
 Jochem Maas wrote:
 Martin Marques wrote:
 I'm looking for an opinion on programming style.

 Basicaly, I make systems using PEAR::DB and PEAR::HTML_Template_IT. This
 last one puts all the HTML away from the PHP code, which has made life
 much easier.

 Now, sometimes I warning messages like this one:

 PHP Warning:  Cannot modify header information - headers already sent in

 I know what it means, so I just look for newlines at the end of my PHP
 scripts, especially after the closing ? and delete them.

 Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script with
 the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
 PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?

 I never add the final closing '?' in any script for this very reason.

 
 'Cause you're a SLACKER!!!

no chance of me getting that code-bitch job you've been forced to
write a 'test' for then? ;-)

 

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Re: [PHP] doubt - session file size

2006-07-20 Thread tedd
At 5:58 PM +0200 7/20/06, Jochem Maas wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 01:03, suresh kumar wrote:
  Hi,
maybe there could be a limit to the number of emails the OP is allowed
to send without ever replying to anyone who offers a possible answer to
his question. :-)

I think you need to understand the cast system at work here -- he presents 
questions, it's our duty to serve. Maybe in our next life, we'll deserve a 
reply.  :-)

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Re: [PHP] Setting cookie on one domain for an other domain

2006-07-20 Thread Jon Anderson
AFAIK, this could be a security risk, so even if PHP would allow it 
(which it might - I don't know), there is a good chance most browsers 
would not. I certainly wouldn't count on being able to do so.


You could however use something like AJAX to do an asynchronous request 
to domain2, which would be allowed to set the domain2 cookie by virtue 
of actually being domain2.


jon

Peter Lauri wrote:

Best group member,

 


When a user does a specific action on domain1.com I want a cookie to be set
so that domain1.com and domain2.com can reach it. Ok, after reading the
manual for setcookie() I tried this:

 


setcookie(thevariable, thevalue, time()+60*60*24*30, /,
.domain1.com);

setcookie(thevariable, thevalue, time()+60*60*24*30, /,
.domain2.com);

 


However, I can not detect the cookie at domain2.com.

 


A solution would be to just make a redirect to the other domain where the
cookie is set and then return.

 


Question is: Can I not set a cookie at domain1.com to work at domain2.com?

 


Best regards,

Peter Lauri

 

 



  


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Re: [PHP] Setting cookie on one domain for an other domain

2006-07-20 Thread Chris Boget

However, I can not detect the cookie at domain2.com.


You aren't going to be able to nor should you be able to.  It's a security 
feature of the browsers.



A solution would be to just make a redirect to the other domain where the
cookie is set and then return.


That would be one solution.


Question is: Can I not set a cookie at domain1.com to work at domain2.com?


No, you can't.  You could, however, if you were trying to set it for a 
different sub-domain (eg. subdomain1.domain.com and subdomain2.domain.com).


thnx,
Chris 


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[PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread tedd
Hi:

So is the consensuses here to NOT close the ? tag?

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[PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Chris W. Parker
Hello,

So we're getting ready to redo our website once again to integrate some
modern changes and a shift in branding. I'm currently looking at all my
options as far as software goes. The question I have to answer is Do I
write everything by myself from scratch and spend 3-6 months doing it?
Or do I spend that same amount of money on a prebuilt system and spend 1
month integrating our new branding?

The answer doesn't even have to be specifically one way or the other. It
could be a mixture of the two. Perhaps I use something like Drupal
(which I have no experience with) for the CMS part and write my own
ecommerce application. Or perhaps I write my own basic CMS and purchase
an ecommerce application?

I've seen X-Cart and at first glance it doesn't look terrible so far. At
least the design templates look to be pretty flexible.

I'm definitely not interested in osCommerce or derivatives thereof. Why?
Because I've worked with osC in the past and I dislike it very much.

As for a CMS, I just watched a video on Drupal 4.7 and it looks quite
interesting. Opinions?

I'm also currently looking at www.opensourcecms.com and have been to the
Joomla, XOOPS, Xaraya, and Mambo websites also.



Thanks,
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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 12:12, Adam Zey wrote:
 Martin Marques wrote:
Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script 
 with
  the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing 
  PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?
 
 Yes.

Wrong :)

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RE: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

2006-07-20 Thread Mark Steudel
Here's one companies quiz that they gave:

With each question, please keep the code short and simple.
Make notes on possible caveats and fixes rather than adding a lot of 
error-checking to your code. 
1.  Write a PHP script to remove duplicate lines from a file. Do not worry 
about efficiency. 
Ex. input:
Tree
Donut
Fish Food
Tree
Tree
Doctor
Fish Food
Ex. output:
Tree
Donut
Fish Food
Doctor

2.  Write a PHP script that retrieves the Word of the Day from 
http://dictionary.com/. 

3.  Write a PHP web page script which redirects visitors to google.com if 
their IP address is not of the form 10.x.x.x nor 192.168.x.x. Users who do not 
get redirected should be shown a top secret message. 

4.  Write a PHP script which inserts the contents of a TAB-delimited text 
file into a MySQL table. You must create the table. The columns are named in 
the file. 
Here is the data format with some example data:
idTABnameTABageTABemailTABactive
1TABBerthaTAB93TAB[EMAIL PROTECTED]TAB1
2TABSammyTAB40TAB[EMAIL PROTECTED]TAB1
3TABErinTAB15TAB[EMAIL PROTECTED]TAB0
4TABRupertTAB29TAB[EMAIL PROTECTED]TAB1

5.  Write a PHP function to determine if two strings are close enough, such 
as to find misspelt words. 
o   Extra letters are OK. 
close_enough( 'apartment', 'appartmeant' );
returns true

o   Missing letters are OK. 
close_enough( 'apartment', 'aprmnt' );
returns true

o   Substitutions are OK. 
close_enough( 'apartment', 'apardmint' );
returns true

o   Only allow up to 1 error per 3 letters in the correct word, rounding 
up. For example, a 10-letter word can have up to 4 errors. They can be anywhere 
in the word.



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To: PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [PHP] Basic PHP knowledge test

Finner, Doug wrote:
 My advice, give the candidates problems and see how they solve them.
 Even if they don't finish, you get an idea of how they think.
 tedd
 
 I like this idea! 
 
 Do you expect them to be able to work with code written by others?  If
 so, hand them some of your existing code (good examples and not so good)
 and ask them to figure out what it does and recommend changes.
 

Most definitely.  This position isn't going to really require the person 
to write their own apps.  Most of the stuff he/she will be doing is 
maintaining code already in place.  Plenty of it will be my code, but 
prior to me starting here three years ago, they used to just get people 
on a contract basis, and there's some pretty messed up code.  They even 
contracted a job out to a couple of Russian programmers; code's pretty 
clean, but all the comments are in Russian.  ;)  I like the idea of 
giving them a piece of our existing code and getting them to do 
something with it...I'll just have to get HR to accept my word on how 
they did on it (they really want a question and answer sheet that they 
can 'grade').

 I really really like the 'give them a problem and have them solve it'
 idea...
 

Yeah, one of my earliest thoughts on this was to have them write 
something simple like connecting to a db, selecting multiple rows, 
parsing our the result, and displaying it in some fashion.

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Re: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Paul Scott

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 09:30 -0700, Chris W. Parker wrote:
 As for a CMS, I just watched a video on Drupal 4.7 and it looks quite
 interesting. Opinions?
 

How about having a look at http://avoir.uwc.ac.za/ ? Its Free, very easy
to learn and has a very active user and developer community.

Its built on a MVC design pattern, so its really easy to write adaptor
classes that you can quickly and painlessly integrate OSCommerce or
whatever else you may need in there. 

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[PHP] PAYMENT TRANSACTION

2006-07-20 Thread BBC
How are you all?
I hope some body can give me some references for internet payment.
I made a kind of shopping cart in my project; even though I was doubt in making 
it caused I don't have any idea how to make internet
transaction. But I just heard from a friend of mine that we can 'join' with 
special web site which handles payment transaction.
I'll be pleasure if some body can give references about this issue which 
explains how to collaborate with them step by step.
Thank you guys..

 Best Regards
BBC
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Re: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Martin Marques

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:30:14 -0400, John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jochem Maas wrote:

 I never add the final closing '?' in any script for this very reason.

 
 'Cause you're a SLACKER!!!

What the hell is a SLACKER???

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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Martin Marques

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:06:10 -0400, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 12:12, Adam Zey wrote:
 Martin Marques wrote:
Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script
 with
  the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
  PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?

 Yes.
 
 Wrong :)

Why? ;-)

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RE: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Kilbride, James P.
I'd explain but it'd be too much work.

James Kilbride 

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Marques [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:32 PM
 To: John Nichel
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script
 
 
 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:30:14 -0400, John Nichel 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jochem Maas wrote:
 
  I never add the final closing '?' in any script for this 
 very reason.
 
  
  'Cause you're a SLACKER!!!
 
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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:15, Martin Marques wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:06:10 -0400, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 12:12, Adam Zey wrote:
  Martin Marques wrote:
 Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script
  with
   the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
   PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?
 
  Yes.
  
  Wrong :)
 
 Why? ;-)

See links I posted in previous response :)

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RE: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Kilbride, James P.
He never said he didn't want you to do his coding, simply that you were
a slacker. Considering he's self proclaimed 'lazy' just means the two of
you should get on great and you'll probably understand his code better.

James Kilbride 

SNIPPAGE(Jochem Maas wrote:)
 no chance of me getting that code-bitch job you've been 
 forced to write a 'test' for then? ;-)
 

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RE: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:39, Kilbride, James P. wrote:
 He never said he didn't want you to do his coding, simply that you were
 a slacker. Considering he's self proclaimed 'lazy' just means the two of
 you should get on great and you'll probably understand his code better.

Won't work because John needs to hire someone to do his work for him so
he can better excel at slacking himself.

Cheers,
Rob.

 
 James Kilbride 
 
 SNIPPAGE(Jochem Maas wrote:)
  no chance of me getting that code-bitch job you've been 
  forced to write a 'test' for then? ;-)
  
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Re: [PHP] PAYMENT TRANSACTION

2006-07-20 Thread Austin Denyer
BBC wrote:
 How are you all?
 I hope some body can give me some references for internet payment.
 I made a kind of shopping cart in my project; even though I was doubt in 
 making it caused I don't have any idea how to make internet
 transaction. But I just heard from a friend of mine that we can 'join' with 
 special web site which handles payment transaction.
 I'll be pleasure if some body can give references about this issue which 
 explains how to collaborate with them step by step.
 Thank you guys..

What kind of 'internet payment' were you looking for?  Credit card?
PayPal?  For credit cards, I get the customer's info and then use cURL
to stuff it down a secure connection to Authorize.net.

Regards,
Austin.


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RE: [PHP] PAYMENT TRANSACTION

2006-07-20 Thread Jim Moseby
 BBC wrote:
  How are you all?
  I hope some body can give me some references for internet payment.
  I made a kind of shopping cart in my project; even though I 
 was doubt in making it caused I don't have any idea how to 
 make internet
  transaction. But I just heard from a friend of mine that we 
 can 'join' with special web site which handles payment transaction.
  I'll be pleasure if some body can give references about 
 this issue which explains how to collaborate with them step by step.
  Thank you guys..
 
 What kind of 'internet payment' were you looking for?  Credit card?
 PayPal?  For credit cards, I get the customer's info and then use cURL
 to stuff it down a secure connection to Authorize.net.
 

My general rule of thumb:  Never ever handle credit card details. Ever.
Pass the customer off to a third party that does it as their primary
service. (Paypal, etc.)

Possible exception: If you are working for a huge corporation with deep
pockets and high dollar lawyers, for when the credit card info gets
compromised.

If you must handle credit card info, never ever store it anywhere.

JM

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Re: [PHP] Escape Chars for MS Exchange/Outlook

2006-07-20 Thread Stut
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Mike wrote:
 I am using Ubuntu 6.06 Linux with PHP 5.1.4. I am using the phpmailer class.
 
 I set the message body to be
 
 $msgbody = $msgbody.'\r\rDate: '.$_REQUEST['date'].'\rName: 
 '.$_REQUEST['lname'].', '.$_REQUEST['fname'].'\rReferral: 
 '.$_REQUEST['referral'].'\rTelephone: '.$_REQUEST['tele'].'\rLoan Officer: 
 '.$_REQUEST['lo'].'\r';
 
 Over in theWindows world, the email takes it literally and keeps it in the 
 message instead of giving me the desired effect.
 
 This Lead came from an Info Call\r\rDate: 20060720\rName: \rReferral: Home 
 Buyers Seminar\rTelephone: 1-123-4567\rLoan Officer: Dave Boxer\r
 
 How can I get the CR that I want so each item is on a separate line?

A line end should be marked with CRLF [\r\n] not just CR [\r].

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RE: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Brady Mitchell
 -Original Message-
 The question I have to answer is Do I write everything by myself from
scratch 
 and spend 3-6 months doing it? Or do I spend that same amount of money
on a prebuilt system 
 and spend 1 month integrating our new branding?

The answer to this question depends heavily on your needs.  What kind of
functionality do you need to get out of your website?  If you are
looking for a website that is similar to others in function, than I
would definitely suggest looking at an existing CMS package.  

Even if you will need some custom functionality, it may be worth the
time and effort to create your own module for an existing system.  But
again, that depends on the complexity of the system you need.

 The answer doesn't even have to be specifically one way or 
 the other. It could be a mixture of the two. Perhaps I use something
like Drupal
 (which I have no experience with) for the CMS part and write my own
 ecommerce application. Or perhaps I write my own basic CMS 
 and purchase an ecommerce application?

I would suggest that you take a look at the different CMS options as
well as the community released modules / plugins.  You may well find a
CMS that has a module that will meet your needs, or be close enough that
you could take the code and customize it to what you are looking for.

 As for a CMS, I just watched a video on Drupal 4.7 and it looks quite
 interesting. Opinions?

I'm currently migrating from a Mambo site to Drupal.  My main reason for
doing so is the multi-site functionality.  We have a few different
websites that we maintain for different business goals, but we want them
all to authenticate against the same database due to the fact that some
of our users will need to use all of the sites.  

Using drupal it is very simple to setup several sites on one codebase,
and telling them to all authenticate against the same database table is
very easy.  The other nice thing is that you can setup drupal to share
the sessions table as well, so logging into one site logs you into all
of the sites at once.

Having said that, Drupal is a little more difficult to understand than
some of the other CMS systems.  At least it was for me, but that
probably reflects more on me than on Drupal.  ;)
 
For a single site setup I would probably stick with Joomla, but that's
just a preference.

The bottom line is that there are lots of great CMS options, and the
best way to choose one is to know exactly what you want from a CMS and
compare them with that in mind.

Good luck,

Brady

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Re: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread John Nichel

Jochem Maas wrote:

Martin Marques wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:30:14 -0400, John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jochem Maas wrote:

I never add the final closing '?' in any script for this very reason.


'Cause you're a SLACKER!!!

What the hell is a SLACKER???


I'm a slacker.



Which is why you aren't up for the job here.  The slacker position 
belongs to me.


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Re: [PHP] headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Martin Marques wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:30:14 -0400, John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jochem Maas wrote:
 I never add the final closing '?' in any script for this very reason.

 'Cause you're a SLACKER!!!
 
 What the hell is a SLACKER???

I'm a slacker.

 
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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Stephen Lake
As far as getting the header error resolved, try this:
http://ca3.php.net/manual/en/function.ob-start.php

HTH
Steve
Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:15, Martin Marques wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:06:10 -0400, Robert Cummings 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 12:12, Adam Zey wrote:
  Martin Marques wrote:
 Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the 
  script
  with
   the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a 
   closing
   PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?
 
  Yes.
 
  Wrong :)

 Why? ;-)

 See links I posted in previous response :)

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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Martin Marques

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Stephen Lake wrote:


As far as getting the header error resolved, try this:
http://ca3.php.net/manual/en/function.ob-start.php


I'll stick with not closing my scripts, just like Rasmus said. :-)

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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Adam Zey

Jochem Maas wrote:

Robert Cummings wrote:
  

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:15, Martin Marques wrote:


On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:06:10 -0400, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 12:12, Adam Zey wrote:


Martin Marques wrote:
   Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script
with
  

the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?


Yes.
  

Wrong :)


Why? ;-)
  

See links I posted in previous response :)



I don't understand - the links point to posts by Rasmus saying that's
'beneficial' - seems to me to be a fairly robust endorsement yet you
consider leaving off trailing '?' wrong (and use Rasmus' comments to
back that up)

we're having another heatwave here in europe so that
could be compounding my lack of understanding ;-)

  

Cheers,
Rob.



  
I believe it's the opposite. I said it was bad practice. He disagreed, 
and used his links to back himself up.


Note that just because the fact that it works is a feature, doesn't mean 
it's good coding style. register globals is a feature too, but it isn't 
exactly a good idea to use it.


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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 16:50, Jochem Maas wrote:
 Robert Cummings wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:15, Martin Marques wrote:
  On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:06:10 -0400, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 12:12, Adam Zey wrote:
  Martin Marques wrote:
 Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script
  with
  the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
  PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?
  Yes.
  Wrong :)
  Why? ;-)
  
  See links I posted in previous response :)
 
 I don't understand - the links point to posts by Rasmus saying that's
 'beneficial' - seems to me to be a fairly robust endorsement yet you
 consider leaving off trailing '?' wrong (and use Rasmus' comments to
 back that up)
 
 we're having another heatwave here in europe so that
 could be compounding my lack of understanding ;-)

The original question says Is it bad practice? Adam Zey said Yes. I
said he is Wrong. Now granted, re-reading the original post, there are
two questions, I presumed (quite possibly incorrectly) Adam Zey was
answering the first. Generally when you have Y answers for X questions
and Y  X then the first Y questions are presumed answered. Just like
when parsing CSV files and you run out of commas :) If we didn't have
this basic presumption, then the universe would begin to tear apart --
trust me on that one ;)

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:15, Martin Marques wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:06:10 -0400, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 12:12, Adam Zey wrote:
 Martin Marques wrote:
Now, my question is: Is it a bad practice to NOT close the script
 with
 the PHP closing ?? I mean, just leave the script without a closing
 PHP simbols, as this scripts are included?
 Yes.
 Wrong :)
 Why? ;-)
 
 See links I posted in previous response :)

I don't understand - the links point to posts by Rasmus saying that's
'beneficial' - seems to me to be a fairly robust endorsement yet you
consider leaving off trailing '?' wrong (and use Rasmus' comments to
back that up)

we're having another heatwave here in europe so that
could be compounding my lack of understanding ;-)

 
 Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Martin Marques

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Adam Zey wrote:


Jochem Maas wrote:

Robert Cummings wrote:


I don't understand - the links point to posts by Rasmus saying that's
'beneficial' - seems to me to be a fairly robust endorsement yet you
consider leaving off trailing '?' wrong (and use Rasmus' comments to
back that up)

we're having another heatwave here in europe so that
could be compounding my lack of understanding ;-)


I believe it's the opposite. I said it was bad practice. He disagreed, and 
used his links to back himself up.


Note that just because the fact that it works is a feature, doesn't mean it's 
good coding style. register globals is a feature too, but it isn't exactly a 
good idea to use it.


Explain yourself. register_globals can give you a big headache, but in 
which way is not closing the script like using register_globals?


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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 16:53, Adam Zey wrote:
 Jochem Maas wrote:
  I don't understand - the links point to posts by Rasmus saying that's
  'beneficial' - seems to me to be a fairly robust endorsement yet you
  consider leaving off trailing '?' wrong (and use Rasmus' comments to
  back that up)
 
  we're having another heatwave here in europe so that
  could be compounding my lack of understanding ;-)

 I believe it's the opposite. I said it was bad practice. He disagreed, 
 and used his links to back himself up.
 
 Note that just because the fact that it works is a feature, doesn't mean 
 it's good coding style. register globals is a feature too, but it isn't 
 exactly a good idea to use it.

That's a good point, but if your code is well separated from your
content, then the opening PHP tag merely gives your code necessary
context. Closing it is more adverse than no closing it since you may
accidentally leave whitespace as the OP was finding. Thus omission of
the closing tag leads to cleaner code and easier maintenance since you
don't need to track down whitespace error (nor do you need to enable
ob_start() to solve said issue).

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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread John Nichel

Adam Zey wrote:
snip
Note that just because the fact that it works is a feature, doesn't mean 
it's good coding style. register globals is a feature too, but it isn't 
exactly a good idea to use it.




Ding ding ding

Give that man a cigar.

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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Adam Zey

Martin Marques wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Adam Zey wrote:


Jochem Maas wrote:

Robert Cummings wrote:


I don't understand - the links point to posts by Rasmus saying that's
'beneficial' - seems to me to be a fairly robust endorsement yet you
consider leaving off trailing '?' wrong (and use Rasmus' comments to
back that up)

we're having another heatwave here in europe so that
could be compounding my lack of understanding ;-)


I believe it's the opposite. I said it was bad practice. He 
disagreed, and used his links to back himself up.


Note that just because the fact that it works is a feature, doesn't 
mean it's good coding style. register globals is a feature too, but 
it isn't exactly a good idea to use it.


Explain yourself. register_globals can give you a big headache, but in 
which way is not closing the script like using register_globals?


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In that they're both features, and I think it's bad style to use either 
one of them. Robert Cummings disagrees with me, which is fine.


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RE: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Chris W. Parker
Brady Mitchell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:25 PM said:

 The answer to this question depends heavily on your needs.  What kind
 of functionality do you need to get out of your website?  If you are
 looking for a website that is similar to others in function, than I
 would definitely suggest looking at an existing CMS package.
[snip]
 The bottom line is that there are lots of great CMS options, and the
 best way to choose one is to know exactly what you want from a CMS and
 compare them with that in mind.

Yeah I understand that it's a pretty open ended question, and thanks for
the info about Drupal. We want to maintain 2 different sites as well and
authenticating against the same table sounds nice.

But as for recommendations, keeping in mind the difficulty in answering
a question like mine, I am mostly just looking for things like what
you've said: I use $cms because I like that it can do $feature.


Thanks,
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Re: [PHP] Re: headers and newline at end of script

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 17:09, John Nichel wrote:
 Adam Zey wrote:
 snip
  Note that just because the fact that it works is a feature, doesn't mean 
  it's good coding style. register globals is a feature too, but it isn't 
  exactly a good idea to use it.
  
 
 Ding ding ding
 
 Give that man a cigar.

Why would anyone wish cancer on somebody else? Seems mean to me.

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Enterprise grade CMS+Ecomm

2006-07-20 Thread Larry Garfield
On Thursday 20 July 2006 11:30, Chris W. Parker wrote:

 The answer doesn't even have to be specifically one way or the other. It
 could be a mixture of the two. Perhaps I use something like Drupal
 (which I have no experience with) for the CMS part and write my own
 ecommerce application. Or perhaps I write my own basic CMS and purchase
 an ecommerce application?

Drupal has its own ecommerce suite that is reasonably robust all on its own.

Drupal's main advantage: Whatever you're trying to do, odds are you can 
already do it with some combination of existing modules.

Drupal's main disadvantage: There's a metric fuckton of modules and just as 
many ways to combine them.  The don't code, just configure option is not 
always easy to figure out because it's just so flexible.

(Disclaimer: I am a Drupal developer, albeit a minor one.)

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