[PHP] Interest in Project
Hi every one I am going to be working on a site that will contain hopefully a single point where people can get php class files, Sorce code help, and MySQL database help, Plus a kind of comunity for PHP. I know there are other site such as this but I would like to create a 1 place for all type site. It will be done in PHP and use a MySQL backend if any one is interested in getting in on this project please E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it would be a great project. Thanks Guys. -=Adam=- - http://www.2ghz.net/ Welcome To the Future -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Interest in Project
On 10 Feb 2002, at 17:23, Viper wrote: Hi every one I am going to be working on a site that will contain hopefully a single point where people can get php class files, Sorce code help, and MySQL database help, Plus a kind of comunity for PHP. I know there are other site such as this but I would like to create a 1 place for all type site. It will be done in PHP and use a MySQL backend if any one is interested in getting in on this project please E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it would be a great project. Well I have no end of such places to find. I'm new to PHP. What interests me much more is how to go about organizing my project. I have such a system using mod_per/Perl. Perl also has Mason/AxKit etc. ... I use my own which revolves around HTML::Template. I was recently told about smarty as a templating system and I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to recreate my method in PHP which I use in Perl as I just really, really don't like having these php pages with programming in them all over the place. I like things to be consolidated. I would suggest you start a site which is about THE WAYS of DESIGNING solutions with PHP and MySQL (but why, why in the world don't you just do it with PHP/RDBMS). There is more than one way and yet I rarely in fact hardly ever find a site DISCUSSING this. There are a lot of sites that say this is our way but most of them don't even do that .. they just say download XYZ and there is no question or discussion of their way. Now, perhaps I've missed these sites, if so please bombard me with the urls. Othewise, consider a site which does this. I have no end of bookmarks for sites with the tactical questions. Peter -- http://www.coremodules.com/ PETER J. SCHOENSTER (901)-652-2002 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Interest in Project
I may have worded this wrong. The site will focus on PHP and the use of Databases with PHP, (Oracle, Postgres, MySQL, others...). I was typing fast and just threw MySQL out :) I do quite a bit of development in PHP and MySQL so I am most familiar with it. I am also very familiar with Oracle. I have yet to find a PHP help site that focuses on Databases and Code Repositorys Related specificaly to PHP and it's use with them. The main thing I want the site to be is a Community where people can come to get help and read articles about the Use Of PHP in the real world. That sound more interesting? :) -=Adam=- Quoting Peter J. Schoenster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10 Feb 2002, at 17:23, Viper wrote: Hi every one I am going to be working on a site that will contain hopefully a single point where people can get php class files, Sorce code help, and MySQL database help, Plus a kind of comunity for PHP. I know there are other site such as this but I would like to create a 1 place for all type site. It will be done in PHP and use a MySQL backend if any one is interested in getting in on this project please E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it would be a great project. Well I have no end of such places to find. I'm new to PHP. What interests me much more is how to go about organizing my project. I have such a system using mod_per/Perl. Perl also has Mason/AxKit etc. ... I use my own which revolves around HTML::Template. I was recently told about smarty as a templating system and I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to recreate my method in PHP which I use in Perl as I just really, really don't like having these php pages with programming in them all over the place. I like things to be consolidated. I would suggest you start a site which is about THE WAYS of DESIGNING solutions with PHP and MySQL (but why, why in the world don't you just do it with PHP/RDBMS). There is more than one way and yet I rarely in fact hardly ever find a site DISCUSSING this. There are a lot of sites that say this is our way but most of them don't even do that .. they just say download XYZ and there is no question or discussion of their way. Now, perhaps I've missed these sites, if so please bombard me with the urls. Othewise, consider a site which does this. I have no end of bookmarks for sites with the tactical questions. Peter -- http://www.coremodules.com/ PETER J. SCHOENSTER (901)-652-2002 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php - http://www.2ghz.net/ Welcome To the Future -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Interest in Project
It does indeed! http://www.phinpho.com/ I got the domain a couple of weeks ago, and I have a couple of mates who are keen to set it all up, now all we need is a boot in the arse to get it going! I have some neat servers and a phatt connection. It'll do to get us started, but may need some more grunt later on. http://www.operationenigma.com/setup.txt There's a brief description for ya. Looking forward to it, will be swell once it's going! As for an easier way to talk about it all, IRC sound good? Connect to: irc.holonet.org Join: #fearful_right (A mate's chatroom) Cya there! - Liam (Enigma) - Original Message - From: Viper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Interest in Project I may have worded this wrong. The site will focus on PHP and the use of Databases with PHP, (Oracle, Postgres, MySQL, others...). I was typing fast and just threw MySQL out :) I do quite a bit of development in PHP and MySQL so I am most familiar with it. I am also very familiar with Oracle. I have yet to find a PHP help site that focuses on Databases and Code Repositorys Related specificaly to PHP and it's use with them. The main thing I want the site to be is a Community where people can come to get help and read articles about the Use Of PHP in the real world. That sound more interesting? :) -=Adam=- Quoting Peter J. Schoenster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10 Feb 2002, at 17:23, Viper wrote: Hi every one I am going to be working on a site that will contain hopefully a single point where people can get php class files, Sorce code help, and MySQL database help, Plus a kind of comunity for PHP. I know there are other site such as this but I would like to create a 1 place for all type site. It will be done in PHP and use a MySQL backend if any one is interested in getting in on this project please E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it would be a great project. Well I have no end of such places to find. I'm new to PHP. What interests me much more is how to go about organizing my project. I have such a system using mod_per/Perl. Perl also has Mason/AxKit etc. ... I use my own which revolves around HTML::Template. I was recently told about smarty as a templating system and I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to recreate my method in PHP which I use in Perl as I just really, really don't like having these php pages with programming in them all over the place. I like things to be consolidated. I would suggest you start a site which is about THE WAYS of DESIGNING solutions with PHP and MySQL (but why, why in the world don't you just do it with PHP/RDBMS). There is more than one way and yet I rarely in fact hardly ever find a site DISCUSSING this. There are a lot of sites that say this is our way but most of them don't even do that .. they just say download XYZ and there is no question or discussion of their way. Now, perhaps I've missed these sites, if so please bombard me with the urls. Othewise, consider a site which does this. I have no end of bookmarks for sites with the tactical questions. Peter -- http://www.coremodules.com/ PETER J. SCHOENSTER (901)-652-2002 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php - http://www.2ghz.net/ Welcome To the Future -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Interest in Project
On 10 Feb 2002, at 21:17, Viper wrote: I may have worded this wrong. The site will focus on PHP and the use of Databases with PHP, (Oracle, Postgres, MySQL, others...). I was typing fast and just threw MySQL out :) I do quite a bit of development in PHP and MySQL so I am most familiar with it. I am also very familiar with Oracle. I have yet to find a PHP help site that focuses on Databases and Code Repositorys Related specificaly to PHP and it's use with them. The main thing I want the site to be is a Community where people can come to get help and read articles about the Use Of PHP in the real world. That sound more interesting? :) Yes and No :) If you search say google for php/oracle/mysql/rdbms you'll have no end of sites to visit. Everywhere I go I see small snippets of how to do this or that. I'm thinking more on along these lines: Smart Architectures in PHP Tim Perdue http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim20001010.php3 although I think a site could go beyond that and just be smart architectures and then show/discuss etc. in Perl/PHP ... But heck, I think there is always room for more good sites. If you did more databases then it might be interesting to show the differences between them. Mysql is evolving fast and it's been the one I used most but I've also used postgresq and oracle. I've not used triggers or stored procedures AT ALL but I'm familiar with them and as a data model grows in complexity it really seems easier to me to use such tools rather than doing all the work in my programming language. I don't see this stuff discussed much. I'd like to see these kinds of things. How you do X in Oracle but is done like Y in MySQL, etc. I'm a little scared of your reference to code repositories. I like CPAN for Perl and I guess Pear for PHP but I haven't gotten into it much as I'm still learning PHP. imho the OO approach with classes as black boxes is much better than the scripting nature of Perl/PHP. code repositories bring to mind cut and paste and I try and avoid that at all costs. Just my thoughts. I'd certainly like to know when your site goes live. I'm too busy to help with anything myself. Unemployed and spending all my time trying to find work :) except I can't break my email habits :) Peter --- Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I dont think any of us can break the E-mail habbit :) I agree with you there are alot of sites out there. That is a good idea to show ways to do things in different DB's sort of a DB centric site. I guess the main focus of the site is community help. Not only code snippet stuff. But Forums and E-mail help. The thing about PHP is it is a relativly new language and alot of people need help with it. So a site that allows them to comunicate directly with some experts can help them greatly. Also looking at code snippets with articles like phpbuilder helps people alot when the get stuck. I will let you know when it goes up :) Thanks for all your ideas. -=Adam=- Quoting Peter J. Schoenster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10 Feb 2002, at 21:17, Viper wrote: I may have worded this wrong. The site will focus on PHP and the use of Databases with PHP, (Oracle, Postgres, MySQL, others...). I was typing fast and just threw MySQL out :) I do quite a bit of development in PHP and MySQL so I am most familiar with it. I am also very familiar with Oracle. I have yet to find a PHP help site that focuses on Databases and Code Repositorys Related specificaly to PHP and it's use with them. The main thing I want the site to be is a Community where people can come to get help and read articles about the Use Of PHP in the real world. That sound more interesting? :) Yes and No :) If you search say google for php/oracle/mysql/rdbms you'll have no end of sites to visit. Everywhere I go I see small snippets of how to do this or that. I'm thinking more on along these lines: Smart Architectures in PHP Tim Perdue http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim20001010.php3 although I think a site could go beyond that and just be smart architectures and then show/discuss etc. in Perl/PHP ... But heck, I think there is always room for more good sites. If you did more databases then it might be interesting to show the differences between them. Mysql is evolving fast and it's been the one I used most but I've also used postgresq and oracle. I've not used triggers or stored procedures AT ALL but I'm familiar with them and as a data model grows in complexity it really seems easier to me to use such tools rather than doing all the work in my programming language. I don't see this stuff discussed much. I'd like to see these kinds of things. How you do X in Oracle but is done like Y in MySQL, etc. I'm a little scared of your reference to code repositories. I like CPAN for Perl and I guess Pear for PHP but I haven't gotten into it much as I'm still learning PHP. imho the OO approach with classes as black boxes is much better than the scripting nature of Perl/PHP. code repositories bring to mind cut and paste and I try and avoid that at all costs. Just my thoughts. I'd certainly like to know when your site goes live. I'm too busy to help with anything myself. Unemployed and spending all my time trying to find work :) except I can't break my email habits :) Peter --- Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php - http://www.2ghz.net/ Welcome To the Future -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
