Yahoo and gmail PLUG subscription failures
Hi, I've been having bounce issues leading to being unsubscribed 3 times. I tried gmail and never received the confirmation email. I tried to subscribe 3 different times. As a result I will not use my gmail account at all and I am moving away from Yahoo. I have been subscribed to the PLUG list with my Yahoo email account for maybe 12 years without a problem until about a month ago. So I'm going to move to an email on my domain in the hopes that will resolve the issue. Onward and upward!! Long live the PLUG mailing list!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Need help with SPF record
Hi, I need to find a DNS and SPF expert to help work through an SPF issue. The data center owner says one thing and the newsletter management company says another. We need to resolve this issue once and for all. If this is you or if you can recommend someone that would be great!! Thanks! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need help with SPF record
Thank you for your feedback, however I am not sure what you are telling me. On 2014-05-09 13:17, Mike Ballon wrote: I probably won't check email again today or even tomorrow, all I can really over is how to obtain the info since I'm not sure what the issue is. $ dig @8.8.8.8 [2] apple.com [3] txt ; DiG 9.8.3-P1 @8.8.8.8 [2] apple.com [3] txt ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47739 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;apple.com [3]. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: apple.com [3]. 282 IN TXT v=spf1 ip4:17.0.0.0/8 [4] ~all ;; Query time: 30 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) ;; WHEN: Fri May 9 16:16:32 2014 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 66 On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:02 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I need to find a DNS and SPF expert to help work through an SPF issue. The data center owner says one thing and the newsletter management company says another. We need to resolve this issue once and for all. If this is you or if you can recommend someone that would be great!! Thanks! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://8.8.8.8 [3] http://apple.com [4] http://17.0.0.0/8 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need help with SPF record
I need to find a DNS and SPF expert to help work through an SPF issue. (willing to pay) The data center owner says one thing and the newsletter management company says another. I have an SPF configured. Newsletter folk keep saying it is wrong but will not say why they think so. Data center owner says it is correct. Looking to hire an expert to help resolve this issue. On 2014-05-09 15:39, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: SPF records. They can be listed as TXT records or SPF records An example with BIND TXT v=spf1 mx ip4:6.7.8.0/24 mx:mailsvr.abc.com ip4:3.4.5.0/24 ~all SPF v=spf1 mx ip4:6.7.8.0/24 mx:mailsvr.abc.com ip4:3.4.5.0/24 ~all Some servers request a txt record, other a spf record. The above record says the mail server mailsvr.abc.com and all ips in the blocks 6.7.8.0/24 and 3.4.5.0/24 are permitted senders. The ~all allows for a soft fail. What do you need the SPF record to say? Gilbert On 5/9/2014 1:54 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Thank you for your feedback, however I am not sure what you are telling me. On 2014-05-09 13:17, Mike Ballon wrote: I probably won't check email again today or even tomorrow, all I can really over is how to obtain the info since I'm not sure what the issue is. $ dig @8.8.8.8 [2] apple.com [3] txt ; DiG 9.8.3-P1 @8.8.8.8 [2] apple.com [3] txt ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47739 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;apple.com [3]. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: apple.com [3]. 282 IN TXT v=spf1 ip4:17.0.0.0/8 [4] ~all ;; Query time: 30 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) ;; WHEN: Fri May 9 16:16:32 2014 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 66 On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:02 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I need to find a DNS and SPF expert to help work through an SPF issue. The data center owner says one thing and the newsletter management company says another. We need to resolve this issue once and for all. If this is you or if you can recommend someone that would be great!! Thanks! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://8.8.8.8 [3] http://apple.com [4] http://17.0.0.0/8 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Yahoo and gmail PLUG subscription failures
Thanks!! So far using an email on my domain seems to be working, however it has only been a couple hours.. Hopefully Yahoo will see a dip in revenues and will realize they are losing mail customers. On 2014-05-09 17:19, Joseph Sinclair wrote: Everyone and everything from Yahoo email has been getting dropped, bounced, and/or marked spam on every service I have access to. It appears that the Yahoo change to their DMARC policy resulted in some negative side effects for their users. Hopefully your new approach will work well for you. On 05/09/2014 06:50 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I've been having bounce issues leading to being unsubscribed 3 times. I tried gmail and never received the confirmation email. I tried to subscribe 3 different times. As a result I will not use my gmail account at all and I am moving away from Yahoo. I have been subscribed to the PLUG list with my Yahoo email account for maybe 12 years without a problem until about a month ago. So I'm going to move to an email on my domain in the hopes that will resolve the issue. Onward and upward!! Long live the PLUG mailing list!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Looking for a Drupal 7 module theme developer
Hi, I potentially have a project that would require Drupal 7 module theme development skills. If interested please contact me off list. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Test -1405-23- disregard this
Have you contacted your hosting provider? I assume they also provide your email? On 2014-05-23 15:34, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Date: May 23, 2014 at 1:35 pm To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org OT: Test -1405-23- disregard this Still trying to figure out why I am not receiving any email from plug-discuss. Why is email from the plug-discuss-list to me getting bounced? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: installfest for the Flagstaff, Prescott, and Payson area?
Tucson Computer Society charged dues and it was mostly retired hobbyists. The Tucson Free Unix group was like PhxLUG - no dues and serious folks for the most part. On 2014-05-26 13:37, Nathan O'Brennan wrote: I tried doing several in Payson through out the years. We have a small computer club called PACA, but it really consists of a bunch of old guys that show up to ask the couple real techs questions all night. Not a whole lot of fun. And then while the library room they use is free to use, they charge dues and are really fussy about it. Kind of funny. I would suggest you make some flyers and hit up any book stores you have and ask to post your flyer. A lot of times the book store will host you. ALso, try putting a flyer in your local post office. Often they will let you put up a flyer that can only hang around for 2 - 4 weeks, which is ideal. Our library here will allow the room to be used without fee as long as you record how many showed up. Maybe your library will do the same. On Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:44:59 AM Michael Havens wrote: I want to do an installfest up here in lil ol cottonwood. how should I proceed? 1- I need to set a date and get a venue. Do you think I can get the local community college to donate that? 2- I need to let people know about it. I think I should advertise in Payson and Prescott as well possibly Flagstaff. Cottonwood is in the middle of those three places 60 miles to each of them. How do I advertise with no budget? Maybe I should coordinate with the unix professor at NAU. Prescott only has community colleges so they're windows-centric. Embry Riddle Aeronautics is there but they teach airlplane mechanics so I don't know about computer stuff. 3- Arrange for a guest speaker or for someone to do a presentation. I need to dig into the brain-trust of PLUG for that. Anyone want to volunteer to escape the heat of Phoenix for a day? Wait a second, there are people from Prescott and Payson on this list! Do you two have any ideas? :-)~MIKE~(-: ps- I just wrote a note to the computer teacher at the local community college and was wanting advice on the content: Hello. My Name is Michael Havens and I'm an enthusiast for open source software. I was wanting to do something where people who are interested in experimenting with open source software in the area (Flagstaff/Prescott/Payson) would all meet at a central location and have Linux installed on their computer. I was hoping I could get the school to donate a room and internet access to this purpose. Would you assist me in getting this? -- Regards, Nathan England ~ NME Consulting Services http://www.nmecs.com Nathan England (nat...@nmecs.com) Systems Administration / Web Application Development Information Security Consulting (480) 559.9681 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: another test - disregard
Your treetop tall and wall to wall! On 2014-06-02 18:53, j...@actionline.com wrote: OT: another test - disregard Still having problems with bluehost blocking email from plug even after whitelisting it. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google voice spam problem ...
Have you been opening these emails? It is my understanding that after a while if you receive emails that you do not open they may then be put in your spam folder. I could be wrong though. On 2014-06-02 19:00, j...@actionline.com wrote: Over the past month, I have discovered that Google Voice has begun putting almost all of my phone calls into a spam folder, including calls from poeple and numbers that I have always received calls with no problem. I have made no changes in the settings. Has anybody else experienced this problem? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
GoDaddy is going public
I heard on the radio that GoDaddy has revenues of $1.3 Billion and has losses of several hundred thousand. It is my understanding GoDaddy has never made a profit. Parsons is an accountant so I'd bet it is some accounting trick. I'll bet he has 100 million in the bank and is paying himself lots as well. GoDaddy is the biggest domain registrar and possibly the biggest virtual hosting company. There are several other big players so maybe the domain and hosing industry might be 3 - 5 billion annually. Maybe even more. Interesting to finally hear about the business. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Vhost mod rewrite
Hi, I just set up a new CentOS 6.5 LAMP box. I am in the process of configuring the vhosts. I created a file /etc/httpd/conf.d/vhosts.conf and the docroot to go with the vhost definition. So far so good. What I am wondering about is if I can do something like this in the vhost.conf file: VirtualHost *:80 Directory /home/username/public_html/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride All Order allow,deny allow from all /Directory DocumentRoot /home/username/public_html ServerName domain.tld /VirtualHost Or would it be more proper to do something like this: Directory /home/username/public_html/ Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride All Order allow,deny allow from all /Directory VirtualHost *:80 DocumentRoot /home/username/public_html ServerName domain.tld /VirtualHost Thanks in advance for your input!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
With the Americas running out of IPv4, it’s official: The Internet is full
Thought you might find this article informative http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/with-the-americas-running-out-of-ipv4-its-official-the-internet-is-full/ Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Where to define vhosts
Thank you everyone for your help!! I'm running Apache 2.2 on CentOS 6.5. I was told once to put the vhost file in the config path so that during future upgrades I do not lose my configuration. My main concern is where the config files are included in the httpd.conf file and how that might effect or be effected by directives that come after the vhosts. On 2014-06-13 15:03, Michael Torres wrote: Depends on the version of apache you are using. I use 2.2 and I add it to the https.conf file..,no issues On Jun 13, 2014 12:53 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I am wondering what the proper way to add vhosts to the Apache config. I've used 3 methods. 1) add them to the bottom of the httpd.conf file 2) add an include at the bottom of the httpd.conf file that includes a file containing all the vhosts 3) adding a vhost.conf file to /etc/httpd/config.d/ directory In the last method, the vhosts are included in the middle of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file. Is this a problem? Is there a better method? Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Test - 1406-17 disregard this.
I got it!! On 2014-06-17 16:19, j...@actionline.com wrote: OT: Test - 1406-17 disregard this. Today (after several weeks of PLUG email messages having been blocked from being delivered to me), I received 3 messages, so perhaps somebody someplace fixed something (we hope). Therefore, this is just a test to see if it is really true ;) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to find or set printer IP address for wireless?
I searched google for config wireless printer linux and found a bunch of resources. Here is a YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oVEqZKOpD4 Hope is is what you are looking for. On 2014-06-17 20:13, j...@actionline.com wrote: Recently, I submitted this question: How to find or set printer IP address for wireless? I just got a Brother HL2270-DW laser printer and I cannot figure out how to get it installed as a wireless printer on my network. After much searching on the 'net, I found this: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00104 [snipped] select the number of destination Device URI. - But now what? None of the 13 numbered options seem applicable, and I have no idea how to find or set a specific IP address. So where do I go from here? Still can't figure out how to find or set the IP address for the printer: Please view these exhibits: http://upquick.com/temp/find.printer.ip.jpg http://upquick.com/temp/printer.settings.jpg --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fwd: Re: Ransom Virus
Now that is funny!! On 2014-06-20 00:46, Lyle Tuttle wrote: Someone should have told the IRS about backups. well, I wish your friend a lot of luck. The encryption is very difficult to break and would likely take longer than its worth. This is why I strongly recommend daily backups of important data. I have already seen this on my windows laptop. Fortunately, I had already made a backup of the entire system. So, It was easy for me to erase using a Linux rescue disk and then put the old OS back in place. THe only reason for me to have windows at all around here is for some of the windows specific applications that are able to be used with JAWS (screen reader for the blind). All the rest of the time I spend on either the Linux partition on this mac, or OS X (where I do all my mail). So, there you have the lesson. Backup, backup, and more backup (even make a backp of the backup). -eric On Jun 19, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Ralph Prowell wrote: Just recently a friend of mine opened an outlook message that asked her to download a program that turned out to be a ransom virus and has encrypted all of her Microsoft office files and are wanting her to pay a ransom of $500 to get her files back. Has anyone had any success in retrieving these ransom files from an infected machine? If so please contact me if you have any ideas how to retrieve these files. Thank you, Ralph Sent from my iPad --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Useless and meaningless rant about my hate for Linux Mint...
What a great rant!! I was on my way to look for a video on HULU I enjoyed this much more. I think Win7 is one of the best OS's ever made. I started with DOS 2.11 and stayed with DOS until 95 when I was forced to use it. In 2000 I used Linux for 8 months and then went back to Windows. In 2006 I used Linux for about 3 months and went back to Windows. Mostly because I need IE for testing. I hated IE in Wine. I've been using Kubuntu as my main system for 5 or 6 months. I think it will stick this time. It has been a pain making the switch. I still need to load Windows in a virtual machine so I can have everything on one machine. No time and no energy to do so at this time. I stay with Kubuntu because I know at some point I am really going to forced to switch over to Linux any way. I have a laptop running Win7. I use it to test with IE and to use Go-To_Meetings which does not work on Linux for some reason. Since my two large screens are connected to my Linux box I am unable to enjoy NetFlix until I get a vmachine set up with Windows. In summary I would say that each have their strong points. I like some of the things about Kubuntu and I like other things about Windows. If I could combine them I would. On 2014-06-21 16:02, j...@actionline.com wrote: Brian last wrote (in very small part ;) Re: KDE ... these days it's quite small. Brian, your comments (and advice and guidance) are always especially helpful and very, very much appreciated. I, too, much prefer KDE and Mint to the many other distros that I have tried. Sometimes, I get very frustrated with changes that they make that often seem to me to create a frustrating nuisance and make things worse than the way things were before the change. I do *despise* everything about nepomuk and akonadi and never seem to have been able to totally eliminate it from my systems. Also, for example, I really wish they would bring back the hide button for the start line. Most annoying to me is when they force new things on us instead of just giving the option to opt-in if we should choose to do so. Yet, all-in-all, I am just so incredibly thankful to not have to live with that most horrific of all annoyances that is M$. Every time I have to try to help my dear bride with her M$ box, I praise God again that I don't have to contend with that. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Useless and meaningless rant about my hate for Linux Mint...
I take it you are using XBMC to watch NetFlix? On 2014-06-21 17:00, Michael Havens wrote: hwy are you using netflix? Use xbmc! :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Phil Waclawski phil.waclaw...@mesacc.edu wrote: http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ [1] It works fairly well if you want netflix on Linux. Even if it does install silverlight :P Phil Waclawski On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 2:45 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: What a great rant!! I was on my way to look for a video on HULU I enjoyed this much more. I think Win7 is one of the best OS's ever made. I started with DOS 2.11 and stayed with DOS until 95 when I was forced to use it. In 2000 I used Linux for 8 months and then went back to Windows. In 2006 I used Linux for about 3 months and went back to Windows. Mostly because I need IE for testing. I hated IE in Wine. I've been using Kubuntu as my main system for 5 or 6 months. I think it will stick this time. It has been a pain making the switch. I still need to load Windows in a virtual machine so I can have everything on one machine. No time and no energy to do so at this time. I stay with Kubuntu because I know at some point I am really going to forced to switch over to Linux any way. I have a laptop running Win7. I use it to test with IE and to use Go-To_Meetings which does not work on Linux for some reason. Since my two large screens are connected to my Linux box I am unable to enjoy NetFlix until I get a vmachine set up with Windows. In summary I would say that each have their strong points. I like some of the things about Kubuntu and I like other things about Windows. If I could combine them I would. On 2014-06-21 16:02, j...@actionline.com wrote: Brian last wrote (in very small part ;) Re: KDE ... these days it's quite small. Brian, your comments (and advice and guidance) are always especially helpful and very, very much appreciated. I, too, much prefer KDE and Mint to the many other distros that I have tried. Sometimes, I get very frustrated with changes that they make that often seem to me to create a frustrating nuisance and make things worse than the way things were before the change. I do *despise* everything about nepomuk and akonadi and never seem to have been able to totally eliminate it from my systems. Also, for example, I really wish they would bring back the hide button for the start line. Most annoying to me is when they force new things on us instead of just giving the option to opt-in if we should choose to do so. Yet, all-in-all, I am just so incredibly thankful to not have to live with that most horrific of all annoyances that is M$. Every time I have to try to help my dear bride with her M$ box, I praise God again that I don't have to contend with that. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] Links: -- [1] http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ [2] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Useless and meaningless rant about my hate for Linux Mint...
Thank you!! On 2014-06-21 16:51, Phil Waclawski wrote: http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ [2] It works fairly well if you want netflix on Linux. Even if it does install silverlight :P Phil Waclawski On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 2:45 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: What a great rant!! I was on my way to look for a video on HULU I enjoyed this much more. I think Win7 is one of the best OS's ever made. I started with DOS 2.11 and stayed with DOS until 95 when I was forced to use it. In 2000 I used Linux for 8 months and then went back to Windows. In 2006 I used Linux for about 3 months and went back to Windows. Mostly because I need IE for testing. I hated IE in Wine. I've been using Kubuntu as my main system for 5 or 6 months. I think it will stick this time. It has been a pain making the switch. I still need to load Windows in a virtual machine so I can have everything on one machine. No time and no energy to do so at this time. I stay with Kubuntu because I know at some point I am really going to forced to switch over to Linux any way. I have a laptop running Win7. I use it to test with IE and to use Go-To_Meetings which does not work on Linux for some reason. Since my two large screens are connected to my Linux box I am unable to enjoy NetFlix until I get a vmachine set up with Windows. In summary I would say that each have their strong points. I like some of the things about Kubuntu and I like other things about Windows. If I could combine them I would. On 2014-06-21 16:02, j...@actionline.com wrote: Brian last wrote (in very small part ;) Re: KDE ... these days it's quite small. Brian, your comments (and advice and guidance) are always especially helpful and very, very much appreciated. I, too, much prefer KDE and Mint to the many other distros that I have tried. Sometimes, I get very frustrated with changes that they make that often seem to me to create a frustrating nuisance and make things worse than the way things were before the change. I do *despise* everything about nepomuk and akonadi and never seem to have been able to totally eliminate it from my systems. Also, for example, I really wish they would bring back the hide button for the start line. Most annoying to me is when they force new things on us instead of just giving the option to opt-in if we should choose to do so. Yet, all-in-all, I am just so incredibly thankful to not have to live with that most horrific of all annoyances that is M$. Every time I have to try to help my dear bride with her M$ box, I praise God again that I don't have to contend with that. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Useless and meaningless rant about my hate for Linux Mint...
It is amazing - the transformation of computers since my first exposure in 1983. My first experience was intro to computers - Fortran programming using punch cards. It was 1985 before I saw a full screen editor. In 1986 I bought a Commodore 64 that had 64kb of RAM. It was plenty powerful to automate book keeping and other useful stuff. In 87 I bought an 8088 with an upgrade to 640kb of RAM. It had two disk drives, a 14 monochrome monitor, and a 300 baud modem. I acquired a copy of dBaseIII and I was having the time of my life. The next year I bought a 20MB HD. I thought I had arrived. I am a purist in so may ways. I struggle with the business vs purist approach. I've argued in the past that it is better to spend $50 more a month on hardware than it is to spend hours each month trying to make something more efficient. From a truly business stand point it is more efficient to make up the difference by spending a little more on hardware than man hours. Case in point. I am a lamp dev. I am looking at Drupal for a future project. Most would consider Drupal bloatware. I think at a minimum it is a recourse hog. If all things were equal I would rather build the app from scratch and make it as efficient as I can. The interesting thing is I might be able to get Drupal to do what I want in half the time. That equates to a lot of savings. The cost will be that it will require a server that cost $50 more a month. It amazes me the amount of power it takes to run modern apps. My main box is an i5 with 8GB of RAM. That is a lot of power. I assume it will be viable for 7 - 10 years. Maybe in it's latter life it will not be my primary workstation, however it surely could be a test server or something along those lines. On the other hand it amazed me when I was able to build a mail server running Centos 5 and Qmailtoaster on an old laptop running a 1Ghz Celeron w/ 256MB of RAM. On 2014-06-22 00:32, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: To me bloat would be a bunch of daemons eating resources to the point of exhaustion. I installed KDE (had not done it in years) and seems to hug less resources now. Still testing... ET Dennis Kibbe writes: techli...@phpcoderusa.com writes: What a great rant!! I was on my way to look for a video on HULU I enjoyed this much more. LOL I've enjoyed it as well. Bloat is one of those words that get thrown around without really knowing what it means. (no offense to OP) If I see the word in an article I want to know how the author measures bloat. To me bloat would be code loaded into memory that is never executed. dennisk -- 27 Years 1987-2014 SDF Free Public Access UNIX System http://www.sdf.org --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Test - 1406-21 disregard this.
You should have received a flurry over the past 24 hours. On 2014-06-22 01:41, j...@actionline.com wrote: OT: Test - 1406-21 disregard this. Just checking to see if plug emails are coming through to me now. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Help with finding Linux apps for editing HTML/Movies/Images
Hi, About 6 months ago I switch to Kubuntu and am trying to stay with Linux for my workstation. I need to find a couple tools that will help me with that goal. I am a LAMP dev not a designer, however, occasionally I need to edit am image or create a button. I also need to work with HTML/CSS. Any recommendations on: 1) Graphics editor 2) Movie editor for YouTube tyle stuff 3) (X)HTML editor - would like a wysiwyg editor where I can look at the code and switch views so I can see what the HTML/CSS might look in a browser. Thanks in advance for your input. Please no flame wars. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Help with finding Linux apps for editing HTML/Movies/Images
I'm looking at the NVU website and it looks like Kompozer was an update to NVU. I use Kompozer on Win and like it, however it is not supported any longer. If nothing else pops up I'll give it a shot. Thanks!! On 2014-06-23 15:52, Stephen Partington wrote: For graphics (in general) i would look at Gimp, and for general HTML editing i would check out NVU http://www.nvu.com/ [3] On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: for #3 (last I heard) it is no longer being developed but you can still download Kompozer. http://www.kompozer.net/ [2] :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:25 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, About 6 months ago I switch to Kubuntu and am trying to stay with Linux for my workstation. I need to find a couple tools that will help me with that goal. I am a LAMP dev not a designer, however, occasionally I need to edit am image or create a button. I also need to work with HTML/CSS. Any recommendations on: 1) Graphics editor 2) Movie editor for YouTube tyle stuff 3) (X)HTML editor - would like a wysiwyg editor where I can look at the code and switch views so I can see what the HTML/CSS might look in a browser. Thanks in advance for your input. Please no flame wars. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://www.kompozer.net/ [3] http://www.nvu.com/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Help with finding Linux apps for editing HTML/Movies/Images
I've used it on Windows and like it. Not sure i like that it is not maintained. Thanks!! On 2014-06-23 15:39, Michael Havens wrote: for #3 (last I heard) it is no longer being developed but you can still download Kompozer. http://www.kompozer.net/ [2] :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:25 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, About 6 months ago I switch to Kubuntu and am trying to stay with Linux for my workstation. I need to find a couple tools that will help me with that goal. I am a LAMP dev not a designer, however, occasionally I need to edit am image or create a button. I also need to work with HTML/CSS. Any recommendations on: 1) Graphics editor 2) Movie editor for YouTube tyle stuff 3) (X)HTML editor - would like a wysiwyg editor where I can look at the code and switch views so I can see what the HTML/CSS might look in a browser. Thanks in advance for your input. Please no flame wars. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://www.kompozer.net/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Help with finding Linux apps for editing HTML/Movies/Images
Thank you to all that responded. Here is the list: HTML: http://www.kompozer.net/ HTML: http://www.nvu.com/ video: http://www.kdenlive.org/ Image: Darktable for a lightroom style Photo post-processing tool Image: gimp Image: ImageMagick HTML: NVU became Kompozer which became bluegriffon. http://learningbluegriffon.informationhere.net/aboutbluegriffon.php Image: gimp/inkscape/blender Video: Cinellera - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra and Lightworks http://www.lwks.com/ Video: openshot.org Image: Photo Shop Pro Also one person suggesting editing the files in the docroot and refreshing the browser to see the changes. That is what I do now. It works great for programming and minor changes in the presentation layer, however for a complete layout it is pain painstakingly slow. Of course I am not a designer so maybe design just takes time no matter how you do it. I have used Paint.net on my Windows laptop and find it to be ok. I would like to go fully Linux, however I am going to need to install a vm and set up Win in it sooner or later, so maybe at that point the Win v Linux issue will be mute. Of course the main reason I stick with Linux is I know at some point I will need to because M$ will do something really stupid and I will be forced to. Thank you to everyone for your help!! On 2014-06-23 20:53, Phil Waclawski wrote: For a decent basic video editor, I like openshot ( openshot.org [6]) and they are in the process of updating it to version 2.0 which will have a windows and Mac version as well as a Linux version. Phil Waclawski On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: I'll second that. Make sure you load the latest version, 0.9.8, that just came out a couple of weeks ago. It's more stable that the version that is in the repositories right now. Not that the repository version is horribly unstable, but it can bite you from time to time, but it is really good at saving a recovery file so you can just reload and continue on with what you were doing. Brian On 06/23/2014 01:56 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: For #2, Kdenlive is a great video editor: http://www.kdenlive.org/ [1] Alan On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: For graphics (in general) i would look at Gimp, and for general HTML editing i would check out NVU http://www.nvu.com/ [2] On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: for #3 (last I heard) it is no longer being developed but you can still download Kompozer. http://www.kompozer.net/ [3] :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:25 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com mailto:techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, About 6 months ago I switch to Kubuntu and am trying to stay with Linux for my workstation. I need to find a couple tools that will help me with that goal. I am a LAMP dev not a designer, however, occasionally I need to edit am image or create a button. I also need to work with HTML/CSS. Any recommendations on: 1) Graphics editor 2) Movie editor for YouTube tyle stuff 3) (X)HTML editor - would like a wysiwyg editor where I can look at the code and switch views so I can see what the HTML/CSS might look in a browser. Thanks in advance for your input. Please no flame wars. Keith --__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.__org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/__mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [4] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [5] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [5] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [5] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
Re: Help with finding Linux apps for editing HTML/Movies/Images
Thank You!! On 2014-06-25 00:11, Brian Cluff wrote: I have used Paint.net on my Windows laptop and find it to be ok. I would like to go fully Linux If you like Paint.net, you should check out Pinta which is modeled after paint.net. It's available in the repositories. http://pinta-project.com/ Brian Cluff --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google Domains
Godaddy does have it's dirty laundry. And they are one of the best if not the best vhost provider. GoDaddy was the first, as far as I know, and is the most egregious in breaking apart what used to be the total vhost package. I hosted my business website with them for years. I really liked their webmail. When I switched to a mail client I had to move to their top trier vhosting package to get imap. What started out as $4/mo hosting ended up as $12/mo hosting once I added everything back in that I needed. That is why I moved on. On 2014-06-25 11:48, Michael Butash wrote: On 06/25/2014 08:19 AM, Bryan O'Neal wrote: Go Daddy's DNA service is one of the best in the world, their DNSSec is the best I have ever seen, and they offer a variety of niche items like vanity name servers. Plus they often sell domains at a loss and the next ten largest competitors for actively served authoritative zones don't add up to what they do. Now if Google really becomes a competitor I bet Go Daddy would do something to run the tides like start offering free premium service or increase thier infrastructure. All of which would be amazing. Like with everything, free or freemium isn't always free. Godaddy gets theirs, and that's with marketing. Stewarding some 55m domains comes with the added benefit of you steer some part of 98% of the worlds infrastructure through you at some time or another, whether it's authoritative dns for the domain, root records, glue, or other. That's analytics they sell to microsoft, google, about anyone else they can sell it out to. Parkweb that floats the domains when no site is there by default (and serves, gee, ads go figure) for a large percent of those 55m domains make for prime real estate for revenue generating trackers and other things. So much so Microsoft paid them in partnerships to convert that from apache to iis back in the day [4], making iis the most popular server on the internet at the time per microsoft marketing jargon released the next day coincidentally. Now Google wants to snatch the pebble from their hand, one dns to rule/adword them all, and go to the source to bypass revenue to GD. Most people already use their *gracious* offer of free dns already, giving them the data now everything their pc connects a socket to and does a name lookup on. GD's infrastructure is actually pretty top notch already. You'd be amazed the battering it takes in ddos daily and keeps on ticking. That bit of DNS latency is infrastructure to keep it ticking... In full disclosure, I used to work there (twice actually), and know too much of the dirty laundry, as well as some pride in building that infrastructure. :) -mb http://www.solvedns.com/dns-comparison/ [3] What ever happens I cam sure it will be cool :) On Jun 24, 2014 10:44 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: http://domains.google.com/about/ [1] Godaddy is about to have extreme competition, and they're worried. ;) -mb --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] Links: -- [1] http://domains.google.com/about/ [2] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [3] http://www.solvedns.com/dns-comparison/ [4] http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/04/june_2006_web_server_survey.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google Domains
And they have a huge bargaining chip - Our Data. On 2014-06-25 16:11, Derek Trotter wrote: You might be right, but Google will get away with it as long as they keep donating to the right candidates and political organizations. On 06/25/2014 07:49 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Google has become too powerful. On 2014-06-25 00:39, Michael Butash wrote: http://domains.google.com/about/ Godaddy is about to have extreme competition, and they're worried. ;) -mb --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss . --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Need Drupal 7 Commerce Theme Contract Help
Hi, I am looking for contract help with a Drupal 7 Commerce project. This requires Drupal 7 commerce theme experience. It will require design experience as well - image creation and modification, CSS...etc. This is part-time off site contract work. I am not entirely sure how long this initial project will last. Please let me know if you can help. I am eager to get started within the next week or so. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Happy 4th of July! - maybe the best tribute ever!
Thanks Joe!! Enjoyed the walk down memory lane very much. May God richly Bless America!! On 2014-07-04 15:55, j...@actionline.com wrote: This may be the best musical and slide-show tribute to America ever! Turn up your speakers and click on this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELAykMXRuYfeature=youtu.be Happy 4th of July! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Oh boy... We *ARE* criminals!!!
This has been brewing for years. About 6 years ago the Federal Gov sent out a bulletin that stated that anyone who used cash, supported a non-main-stream political candidate, was pro life... etc was suspect. Returning veterans were included for no other reason than they were war veterans. Occasionally I laughingly tell others that I must be on a dozen or so lists. I've called my U.S.Rep Matt Salmon and have asked how one gets on the list. They do not know. They also do not know how to get off one of these lists. No due process. I've been talking about these issues for years on this list and occasionally people get upset with me. We are now guilty by association. For no other reason than using Linux you are suspect and must be watched. It does not matter what political party you support, it is time to take a look and stop thinking all of this is conspiracy theorist stuff. This is real life. Our Gov is watching everyone of us. We have become their enemy. I used to thing Alex Jones was way out there. When I hear or read his stuff I question it and it makes me wonder how true some or most of his stuff is. This is a sad time for America. I was fortunate enough to grow up in a much different America. Unfortunately the very technology we love is the tool that is being used against us is is being paid for by our tax dollars. Our Gov was instituted to ensure and protect our right. Today our Gov is destroying the constitution and our unalienable rights. An excerpt form the Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men. The million dollar question is how do we get Government back to a place where it is securing our rights? Keith On 2014-07-11 08:40, Mike Ballon wrote: Unreal According to the DasErste report, the NSA considers Linux Journal to be an extremist forum. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Linux Lands on NSA Watch List http://www.eweek.com/security/linux-lands-on-nsa-watch-list.html [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] Links: -- [1] http://www.eweek.com/security/linux-lands-on-nsa-watch-list.html [2] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Oh boy... We *ARE* criminals!!!
Isn’t Soden a whistle blower? Don't we need people like him so we know what is really going on. As it stands if the Gov does not want you or even most politicians to know what is going on all they have to do is classify their documents. We need far more transparency and disclosure. Without Soden would we not still be in the dark? On 2014-07-11 09:48, Victor Odhner wrote: Is that news? FOSS is where individuals can find tools to preserve privacy and free speech, regardless of who wants to deny them these rights. Some might suspect NSA has managed to arm-twist major software publishers into installing backdoor features into popular software, and has planted developers in the FOSS community trying to do the same. And who would you think runs the most TOR servers ... If you can't beat them, join them, right? In other news, Homeland Security considers former US military vets and Christian types as major sources of threats to The System[TM]. We can trust our government to protect us from ... ourselves. As Pogo said, We have met the enemy and he is us. Good times. :) I never tried TOR, it's been years since I looked at Linux Journal, and I am no fan of Rat Fink Snowden or WikiLeaks, but I'll be paying a visit to the targeted sites this week just for the record. - FROM: Mike Ballon mike.bal...@gmail.com SENT: July 11, 2014 6:40:56 AM MST TO: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org SUBJECT: Re: Oh boy... We *ARE* criminals!!! Unreal According to the DasErste report, the NSA considers Linux Journal to be an extremist forum. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Linux Lands on NSA Watch List http://www.eweek.com/security/linux-lands-on-nsa-watch-list.html [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] - PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] Links: -- [1] http://www.eweek.com/security/linux-lands-on-nsa-watch-list.html [2] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
FireFox very slow on Win and Linux
Hi, I was thinking it was my machine. I'm running and i5 with 8GB RAM and Kubuntu. And I was also thinking it was my connection. Right now I was trying to reach a website on my local dev box and it timed out. I went over to my Win laptop and the site came up. So I decided to try an alternation browser on my Linux box. It came with Rekonq. WOW it was snappy. I know others have complained also. Maybe it is time to move on to Chrome or something else. Both FireFox and Thunderbird have been slow for me. I move from Thunderbird to KMail and it seems to work much better. Any thoughts on why FireFox would be so slow? Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Chromium Browser Vs Google Chrome
Hi, I have seen some talk about the Chromium Browser. I'm curious about the merits of one over the other. Or maybe I should be looking at some other browser altogether. Thank you for your input. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Mathematics makes strong case that “snoopy2” can be just fine as a password
Thought you might find this interesting. http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/mathematics-makes-strong-case-that-snoopy2-can-be-just-fine-as-a-password/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Microsoft to cut up to 18,000 jobs over next year while Gates pushes to bring in more guest workers
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/17/microsoft-job-cuts/12772901/ http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/17/Microsoft-to-Slash-18-000-Jobs-Week-After-Bill-Gates-Pushed-for-Unlimited-Guest-Worker-Visas --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Cheap Dell Laptops
Better than a Chromebook? http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-3531-laptop/pd?oc=fndoc3001bmodel_id=inspiron-15-3531-laptop --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cheap Dell Laptops
On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it will run Linux though. I think the new HP's will not. Reason? I think it has something to do with the bios. I have a 4.5 year old HP laptop that runs Linux, however it is my understanding the new ones will not. Last year when I bought a new Dell workstation. After telling them I ..huge snip.. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cheap Dell Laptops
On 2014-07-18 19:49, Jerry Snitselaar wrote: On Fri Jul 18 14, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it will run Linux though. I think the new HP's will not. Reason? I think it has something to do with the bios. I have a 4.5 year old HP laptop that runs Linux, however it is my understanding the new ones will not. Are you talking about uefi? That shouldn't be a problem. I do not recall. It has been about a year. I was going to buy an HP laptop and either someone on the list told me it would not run Linux or HP told me so. I did not buy the laptop. Last year when I bought a new Dell workstation. After telling them I ..huge snip.. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cheap Dell Laptops
And maybe it was some confusion on my part. I did have to turn off the UEFI? with On my Dell when I installed Linux on it. On 2014-07-19 10:21, Kevin Fries wrote: UEFI is not the problem. As a matter of fact, it probably helps the Linux enthusiasts break the Microsoft Monopoly better than anything I have seen in a long time. UEFI is designed such that there is one one boot secror. Instead, it had 128 boot records and that number can be extended infinitely. The standard was also opened years ago... it was designed by Intel. Microsoft not one to have their illegal monopoly threatened, came up with another scheme to lock out open operating systems... security-related OS http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-evaluated_operating_system [2]. In this scheme, the vendor would only allow these secured, certified operating systems to be installed. You had a choice initially of one... Windows, but you had only the choice of that one on the list. Just remember, you may recognize many names on that list, but they are all paid operating systems. Because the cost of this certification is expensive. That's why you find Enterprise Red Hat, but not Fedora. Well, the real joke is, most machines sold with Windows 8 have this Bios feature turned on, but there is an option in the Bios to turn it off. When you are no longer limiter to certified OSes, you can install whatever you like. Now if HE were only as worried about making their customers happy as they were making Microsoft happy, they would have told you that. Kevin On Jul 18, 2014 10:42 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-07-18 19:49, Jerry Snitselaar wrote: On Fri Jul 18 14, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it will run Linux though. I think the new HP's will not. Reason? I think it has something to do with the bios. I have a 4.5 year old HP laptop that runs Linux, however it is my understanding the new ones will not. Are you talking about uefi? That shouldn't be a problem. I do not recall. It has been about a year. I was going to buy an HP laptop and either someone on the list told me it would not run Linux or HP told me so. I did not buy the laptop. Last year when I bought a new Dell workstation. After telling them I ..huge snip.. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-evaluated_operating_system --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Dual Boot system
Can't you create a VM for Linux? On 2014-07-26 01:33, Harold wrote: It is my intent to purchase a Dell XPS 8700 It should be coming in with Win 7 When I bought the last one I had to trash out the last windows. Is there a way to set up dual boot using CentOS without having to do that? I have a couple of games I want to run under Windows, but prefer Linux. Harold --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: mobile device portrait vs landscape size changes
I am looking into this myself. I'm thinking what you are describing is mobile responsive. Take a look at http://getbootstrap.com/css/ On 2014-07-26 20:17, j...@actionline.com wrote: On my mobile devices (and most others, I think), when changing from portrait to landscape viewing, the size of images and text on websites changes. Question #1: What can I do to make both images and text stay the same size in both orientations? Question #2: How can I create an html file so that an images with text below the image in portrait mode will change to the same size image on the left side of the screen with the text from below the image in portrait mode will appear beside the image on the right side when the device is rotated to landscape mode? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Introducing myself
Hi Fred! Welcome!! On 2014-07-28 16:37, Fred Fifield wrote: Hello! My name is Fred and I've been stalking this mailing list for about three weeks now and I thought it was time to come to the surface. I'm a new Linux user. I installed Mint 17 Cinnamon back in June and I've been loving it. I started with Ubuntu but there was too much weirdness in Unity for my tastes. It was suggested on the Ars Technica boards (I'm a moderator over there) that coming from Windows that I might find the transition easier with Mint and they were right. Currently I'm dual-booting Mint with Windows 8.1 but I spend most of my time in Mint unless I'm playing a game. I've flirted with Linux in the past but always seemed to get frustrated with all the hurdles I seemed to run into with getting it all configured. One of the reasons I love Mint so much is that it figured out my hardware configuration on its own (including my printer!), not to mention making it easy to install the nvidia drivers I needed. Not having to do any basic configuration made it easy for me to explore the things I wanted to check out on my own. In reading up on my new OS one of the things that kept coming up was to check out the local user groups. I found PLUG with a Google search and signed up for the mailing lists that seemed pertinent. I hope to make it to one of your meetings sometime but I work nights so it may be a while before I'm able to do that. In the meantime I'm enjoying reading the emails produced by the lists. I read them all even though most of the stuff is way over my head but it's a good learning experience and sometimes there's conversations I actually do understand! I decided on some goals for my new Linux journey. In the near term I want to learn the command line and vi.vi [1] seems an odd text editor to me but I'm enjoying the challenge of learning it. The command line is awesomely powerful and I'm having fun with it too. I got a couple of books from Amazon that were highly rated to help me out. The first is _The Linux Command Line: A Complete Introduction _by William E. Shotts and the second is _Learning vi and the Vim Editors _by Arnold Robbins, Elbert Hannah, and Linda Lamb. Once I get through these I want to install a more complicated distro (to me) like Arch or Gentoo. The ultimate goal is to do Linux from Scratch but there's a lot of learning for me before I get to that. Anyway, thanks for being here and sharing your knowledge about all the 'nixes. Fred Fifield Links: -- [1] http://vi.vi --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Mint
I keep hearing about Mint and some place I heard Mint and Debian in away that made me think maybe Mint is a Debian derivative. Then I visited the website and it looks like Mint is actually Debian. Could that be true? I have not used Debian for years. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Laptop configuration : Linux, VM... etc
Thanks!! I did notice a foot note on this page : http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz that says ‡ This feature may not be available on all computing systems. Please check with the system vendor to determine if your system delivers this feature, or reference the system specifications (motherboard, processor, chipset, power supply, HDD, graphics controller, memory, BIOS, drivers, virtual machine monitor-VMM, platform software, and/or operating system) for feature compatibility. Functionality, performance, and other benefits of this feature may vary depending on system configuration.. Foot noted for this particular one is the visualization and hyper-threading. Is there a way to test the laptop to ensure these CPU features are available? Thanks!! On 2014-08-01 12:43, Todd Cole wrote: I have a Lenovo with similar specifications that we will be using as a demo at the installfest Saturday it is currently running 14.04 host duel booted with windows and several linux guests and windows guests in virtualbox. Feel free to stop by and play with it. current software tools make it easy to convert a hardware os to a Virtual guest. Todd On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:45 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I'm pondering buying a Dell laptop with an Intel Core i3-4030U processor and 4GB of DDR3, 1600MHz RAM. Benchmark seems decent : http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4030U+%40+1.90GHz [1] CPU seems rather good : http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [2] I would like to load Linux on it to use it as a LAMP development box. Most of my work is custom PHP, however I may need to spend some time with Drupal which is a resource hog. It is my hope running local-host would mitigate some of the Drupal issues. I might want to use it to edit videos and potentially images. I was thinking of using a Modern IE https://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools [3] in a Virtual Box https://www.virtualbox.org/ [4] so I can have Internet Explorer for testing. I don't think I will need any other Windows software, or at least that is my hope. I have not done something like this before so I thought I would ask the experts. Is my approach solid or is there something I am missing or should consider? Thanks in advance, Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [5] -- Todd Cole Ubuntu Arizona Team 4605 S PRIEST DR LOT 3 TEMPE AZ 85282-6507 to...@azloco.com 602-677-9402 Links: -- [1] http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4030U+%40+1.90GHz [2] http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [3] https://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools [4] https://www.virtualbox.org/ [5] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Laptop configuration : Linux, VM... etc
Thank you, that puts it in perspective. You have some bragging rights with a 10 year old laptop that is still functional. On 2014-08-01 12:57, John J. Macey wrote: Keith, I've recently put, Linux Mint 17 (Ubuntu 14.04) 32-bit, on 10 year old Dell Inspiron, that had a 60Gb HDD, Pentium-m CPU, and 2Gb RAM. I used PlayOnLinux to install M$ Word / Excel / Powerpoint 2007, and Oracle's VirtualBox to add M$ 7 Ultimate. M$ 7 doesn't run super speedy, but you could use IE from that side of your machine. The machine is used more for a media center running Clementine (streaming music), and XBMC Media Center (Radio / TV channels / Movies / TV series). Your machine should do well. Here's a tip when working with VB. When you close M$ 7, or whatever, just click the window to close, and not the usual M$ shutdown procedure. Just check the window that opens up, and suspend the machine, not shut it down. I was so stunned how fast that I could launch M$ 7 Ultimate that I posted a YouTube Video using Kazaam (Desktop Capture) - Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate - Booted In Less Than 3 Seconds [6]. John On 08/01/2014 12:45 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I'm pondering buying a Dell laptop with an Intel Core i3-4030U processor and 4GB of DDR3, 1600MHz RAM. Benchmark seems decent : http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4030U+%40+1.90GHz [1] CPU seems rather good : http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [2] I would like to load Linux on it to use it as a LAMP development box. Most of my work is custom PHP, however I may need to spend some time with Drupal which is a resource hog. It is my hope running local-host would mitigate some of the Drupal issues. I might want to use it to edit videos and potentially images. I was thinking of using a Modern IE https://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools [3] in a Virtual Box https://www.virtualbox.org/ [4] so I can have Internet Explorer for testing. I don't think I will need any other Windows software, or at least that is my hope. I have not done something like this before so I thought I would ask the experts. Is my approach solid or is there something I am missing or should consider? Thanks in advance, Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [5] Links: -- [1] http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4030U+%40+1.90GHz [2] http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [3] https://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools [4] https://www.virtualbox.org/ [5] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [6] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8m4JXln_FYamp;feature=em-upload_owner --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...
Hi Paul, One would think that Andriod programming is going to be with us for year... decade at least. However that begs the question, what do you (or anyone else) think the long term demand will be? Increasing or decreasing? Is there any barriers to entry like a nasty learning curve? Specialized hardware? ETC... I think I looked at the SDK about a year ago and as I recall it looked to be Java based and then I think I was told of a C++ SDK. IIRC - I think it was something that looked to take a little effort to learn but not too bad. I think i recall something about using JavaScript.? Thanks! Keith On 2014-08-03 16:09, Paul Mooring wrote: Not to discourage you from trying to make this happen, but a bit of perspective might help. Currently android/java developers are in great demand, where I live the average salary is around $110,000/yr or roughly $2100/week. Having done a bit of contract/outsourcing work myself, I can tell you the experienced contractors/developers intended to lose as much as a weeks time on any project just trying to understand what needs to happen and working with the stake holders to make changes along the lines of one more simple thing. The take away is there's going to be a minimum price/complexity to justify taking on a project for a skilled/competent developer and if your app doesn't meet that benchmark you're going to have hard time finding a U.S. based competent developer interested in it. This doesn't mean it's a bad idea or you shouldn't do it, just keep in mind that while you may be really passionate about your idea to developers it's one of many offers to work on a contract for an individual offering below market rates. That's a great fit for contractors in India, students or a dev trying to expand her skill set (web dev still learning mobile apps, etc.) but not so appealing to established professionals. On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 10:04 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ... How can I find a skilled/competent/reasonably priced Android App Developer ... preferrably Arizona local or at least in the U.S.? I've tried elance.com [1] and odesk.com [2] and several similar sites, without success. Mostly get proposals from India and Pakistan, etc. I'm willing to pay up to $1,000 (perhaps more) to get the results we need for an app to read, scroll, flip pages, and search within a book. Should be relatively simple and straight-forward. Need to be able to add to the content and submit updates to the Google playstore myself. See my first-attempt (which does not yet work as well as we need it to) here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.CompareBibleVersionsPackage [3] Please respond either here or off-line to joe(at)actionline.com [4] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [5] -- Paul Mooring Operations Engineer Chef Links: -- [1] http://elance.com [2] http://odesk.com [3] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.CompareBibleVersionsPackage [4] http://actionline.com [5] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...
...sorry... meant it to go to the list, thanks!! To clarify you are seeing a trend towards browser based mobile apps? On 2014-08-04 09:48, Paul Mooring wrote: I wanted to send this to the list, because I think you make some excellent points here. Also just for the record, I'm not necessarily saying I think do web apps for smart phones is better. I'm merely providing POV from someone working in the tech start-up space that that's what the industry is currently leaning towards. I actually prefer native apps myself. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:51 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-08-03 19:14, Paul Mooring wrote: This is a probably a longer and more involved conversation than you think. There's a few primary factors in supply and demand for app developers: 1. Native vs HTML There's a huge difference in the available supply of developers and companies currently equipped to make an html5 site that plays nice with both ios and android. I think we're likely to see a proliferation of tools like phonegap (http://phonegap.com/ [1] [6]) and a slow down of native apps as html apps eat that market share. When you consider currently ios requires objective-C and android Java, you have 2 languages with different tool chains and a more involved development and release process competing against a very well understood and super fast html/javascript ecosystem. In my opinion html/js will eat the mobile dev community as quickly and dominantly as it did for native Windows/OSX applications. This is akin to the argument for browser based applications 10 - 15 years ago. You build an app that runs in a browser and there is no deployment - just point your browser to the website. Building browser based apps that rival desktop apps is not easy. It is easier now that we have jQuery et al, however still not as easy as building desktop apps with Visual Basic (VB). It could take 10 - 20 times longer to build a really trick jQuery web app that rivals a VB app. Unless of course you build widgets that can be reused, then you spend a bunch of time the first go around and reuse those widgets. Still a lot of time building those widgets. I have not built any Android apps, however I suspect it might be faster to build them than HTML/(MySql/MariaDB)/CSS/JavaScript (jQuery). The down side is the different platforms. Which one do you go with and what is the market implications of doing so. Of course web apps require a server or at lease some cheap virtual hosting depending on the needs of the app. 2. Expanding platforms Currently ios and android own the market, but with microsoft, mozilla, ubuntu, etc. all getting into the mobile os game it's conceivable that the overall market could keep growing without making android/java skills a must have. This is down right ugly. 3. Better native app tooling Writing full featured web applications 10 years ago was really hard. Rails, Django, Laravel, etc. along with REST APIs and json revolutionized how we build web services making it a whole lot easier. Then much more recently jquery followed by a million javascript frameworks did the same for front ends. If native android development keeps growing similar tooling is sure to be built to drastically reduce the entrance barrier. It's still very time consuming and requires skills that come with a learning curve. We are still stuck in the 80's with C versus the 90's with Visual Basic. You build your own widgets and development time is through the roof. Building mobile web apps takes a considerable amount of skill and arguably two distinct or possibly three distinct skill sets - 1) Programmers, 2) Designers, and 3) JavaScript / jQuery developers. I assume building an Android app requires one skill set - Android programming skills - a much smaller set of skills. Overall I think it will become easier/cheaper/faster to build mobile apps, but I sort of doubt that will manifest itself in the form of most developers learning and rallying around Java and the Android API. Thank you for your thoughts. In a nutshell I think what you are saying is there is high demand presently, the market will fragment, the demand will level out, and we should consider web apps first. The thing we have not talk about is marketing. I think this is what is motivating Joe. If one builds browser base application and you want to market it how do you do so? SEO is the main way. As Google continues to refine their algorithm trying to get a website to rank is getting more difficult. The alternative is to spend lots of money on advertising. Both approaches require deep pockets. If Joe releases his Android app it might get some traction. And it might be easier to market in the traditional way. The down side is only part of the market can run the app. My motivation for asking the question was purely wanting to know if the high demand for Android developers will last. No one can know for sure. While you say the market will
Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...
On 2014-08-04 10:57, David Schwartz wrote: It always amazes me that these discussions inevitably devolve into arguments about the tools. When people discuss new features for cars, like switching to hybrid or electic technology, do they spend most of their time talking about battery chemistry or the electromagnetic properties of different materials? Or do they talk about the benefits mostly? If they are engineers they might. Look at the audience. My question was a technical question about the future of Android developer demand. Why is it that we in the software world are so freaking attached to the technology used to IMPLEMENT our ideas? Because we are the ones implementing those features. I'll bet car engineers have the same types of debates and talk much the same way we do. Way back when Windows 3 was released, I was doing my own consulting work for clients. I focused on real-time embedded solutions written in C/C++ that ran on DOS or some kind of embedded kernal. People kept asking me why I didn’t get into Windows programming. My explanation was simple: because I had observed that every time Microsoft came out with a new version of Windows, they required developers to attend a week-long training course in Seattle to become “certified”. It cost several thousand dollars and happened every 9-12 months. That in itself wasn’t so bad. The problem I noticed was that I knew a TON of small developers who did this a few times and ended up going bankrupt because of the long ramp-up time it took to absorb all of this new technology. What I saw was they’d pop for the training and certification course, come back home, start busily working on apps, and right about the time they’d be ready to release something, MS would come out with the Next Great API version and they had to start all over again! In the embedded design world, people much preferred stability — we used stuff that was solid and proved and stable and used for several years. Customers didn’t like new APIs, or even new programming tools. I see the same thing happening in the mobile world, except the market has been transformed such that virtually anybody can participate. In the iOS world, Objective-C is like C, only with quirks. C programmers can pick it up without too much trouble. Newbies don’t have to overcome their earlier biases and probably pick it up faster. In the Android world, Java is an old and stable platform, But in both cases, the mobile APIs keep moving! Apple releases a fairly massive update annually, and Google is doing their best to keep up with new Android releases. So you’re barely able to get up to speed with the latest API before a new one comes along and renders a lot of your work obsolete. To make matters worse, if you want to support multiple platforms, you need to be fairly proficient in SEVERAL DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND PLATFORMS. Then from the marketing angle, you’ve got people who say, “Oh, HTML5 web apps are really the future, we’re not going to waste our time with native apps!” That’s all well and good, except it misses the point with native apps, which is that they’re able to access all of the hardware goodies that Apple and Android manufacturers keep adding to. Good Point!! That is, web apps will FOREVER be behind the technology curve when it comes to supporting the wizbang functions inherint in most mobile devices. Sure, they’re fine for generic data-driven needs, but not for things that are generating sales at the front-edge of the technology curve leveraging the latest hardware features. Web apps = run everywhere there is a browser. Native apps are restricted to their hardware O/S. Both have their merits. Now we’ve got a new language: Apple introduced Swift and is making it available for free, like their other tools. This is going to stimulate a whole new generation of devleopers to jump into the fray and start building apps for iOS — apps that are going to be hard to “port” over to Android platforms, or even web platforms. I’ve talked with Joe about his app. To his credit, he’s focused mainly on the app. But what he’s missed is the fact that, IMHO, he’s over-spec’ed it to the point where you'd need so much custom code to impement what appears to be a simple tool that he’ll never be happy with the end result. His UI design makes assumptions based on HIS experience with *nix shell scripting, and he clearly explains this in the spec. There are no native widgets that work like “grep” in the Android world! So he’ll be extremely hard-pressed to find anybody who’ll build it for him within the budget he’s demanding. I’ve worked with something called Delphi since Borland introduced it in 1995. Starting with the XE2 release a few years back, they’ve been embracing a multi-platform targeting strategy where you can develop apps in one language that will run on any of the popular platforms: Windows, OS X, iOS, and Android. And it actually WORKS! This is what we need - build once
Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...
I've looked at it several times. Each time the price goes up. $4,150 is a little pricey for me. On 2014-08-04 13:35, David Schwartz wrote: Delphi is just as easy to use as VB, if not easier. Have you looked at it lately? It’s just not considered “mainstream” any longer. People say, “Oh, is THAT still around?” Yup. Check it out. http://embarcadero.com They also have a tool they now call HTML5Builder or something along that line, which is an allusion to their C++ Builder app — a C++ version of Delphi. HTML5Builder is a PHP/HTML5 version. -David The Tool Wiz Schwartz On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:40 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-08-04 10:57, David Schwartz wrote: Now we’ve got a new language: Apple introduced Swift and is making it available for free, like their other tools. This is going to stimulate a whole new generation of devleopers to jump into the fray and start building apps for iOS — apps that are going to be hard to “port” over to Android platforms, or even web platforms. I’ve talked with Joe about his app. To his credit, he’s focused mainly on the app. But what he’s missed is the fact that, IMHO, he’s over-spec’ed it to the point where you'd need so much custom code to impement what appears to be a simple tool that he’ll never be happy with the end result. His UI design makes assumptions based on HIS experience with *nix shell scripting, and he clearly explains this in the spec. There are no native widgets that work like “grep” in the Android world! So he’ll be extremely hard-pressed to find anybody who’ll build it for him within the budget he’s demanding. I’ve worked with something called Delphi since Borland introduced it in 1995. Starting with the XE2 release a few years back, they’ve been embracing a multi-platform targeting strategy where you can develop apps in one language that will run on any of the popular platforms: Windows, OS X, iOS, and Android. And it actually WORKS! This is what we need - build once run everywhere. I personally think web development is way behind in they types of tools we have. I often wonder why we do not have something like VB that is drag and drop. Instead we build everything every time. The web dev model is very expensive. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...
In the 80's I began to develop using dBaseII, then dBaseIII... dBaseIII+, foxBase+, Clipper 87, Visual FoxPro. It was a great file server database system that was probably the best tool on the market for developing small company database applications. The problem is it was a niche skill set. dBase jobs were few and far between. I would still be working with FoxPro if M$ had not bought it and everyone bailed. FoxPro is now dead thanks to M$. That was the tool of choice for me and I would still be developing with it if it was up to me. Having had that experience I am leery of tying my wagon to something like Delphi. I really enjoyed Turbo Pascal in the early to mid 80's. I'm sure I would enjoy object oriented Turbo Pascal ie Delphi. I've heard tons of good things about Dephi going back maybe 10 or 12 years, maybe longer. Unfortunately Delphi is not main stream enough for me. I do not want to tie my wagon to another FoxPro. On 2014-08-04 13:35, David Schwartz wrote: Delphi is just as easy to use as VB, if not easier. Have you looked at it lately? It’s just not considered “mainstream” any longer. People say, “Oh, is THAT still around?” Yup. Check it out. http://embarcadero.com They also have a tool they now call HTML5Builder or something along that line, which is an allusion to their C++ Builder app — a C++ version of Delphi. HTML5Builder is a PHP/HTML5 version. -David The Tool Wiz Schwartz On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:40 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-08-04 10:57, David Schwartz wrote: Now we’ve got a new language: Apple introduced Swift and is making it available for free, like their other tools. This is going to stimulate a whole new generation of devleopers to jump into the fray and start building apps for iOS — apps that are going to be hard to “port” over to Android platforms, or even web platforms. I’ve talked with Joe about his app. To his credit, he’s focused mainly on the app. But what he’s missed is the fact that, IMHO, he’s over-spec’ed it to the point where you'd need so much custom code to impement what appears to be a simple tool that he’ll never be happy with the end result. His UI design makes assumptions based on HIS experience with *nix shell scripting, and he clearly explains this in the spec. There are no native widgets that work like “grep” in the Android world! So he’ll be extremely hard-pressed to find anybody who’ll build it for him within the budget he’s demanding. I’ve worked with something called Delphi since Borland introduced it in 1995. Starting with the XE2 release a few years back, they’ve been embracing a multi-platform targeting strategy where you can develop apps in one language that will run on any of the popular platforms: Windows, OS X, iOS, and Android. And it actually WORKS! This is what we need - build once run everywhere. I personally think web development is way behind in they types of tools we have. I often wonder why we do not have something like VB that is drag and drop. Instead we build everything every time. The web dev model is very expensive. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...
Your CIO example was not lost on me. I get it. I'm focusing on the market and how it effects my ability to make a living as a freelance developer. For me it is about demand/compensation, is the projected life cycle long enough to make it worth while making the necessary investment of time to become competent, and is it something I really would like to do. It is kind of like a personal hedgehog - 1) what are you passionate about? 2) what can you be the best at? 3) does it drive your economic engine? I would add two more 4) is the projected life cycle long enough to reasonably recoup one's investment to become competent? 5) is the barrier to entry low enough to make the transition worth while? I'm sure you can add a couple more. On 2014-08-04 16:59, David Schwartz wrote: Back in the 80’s, M$ was just another compiler vendor, one of several. And they weren’t even considered the best. It has been estimated that their software development tools division alone would rank as a Fortune 100 business entity. But they actually receive very little direct revenues because they get subsidized by other divisions. Today they exist mainly because they drove everybody else out of business. It’s hard to compete as a compiler vendor when M$ gives a company free dev tools if their CIO agrees to buy a huge bundle of database and OS technology. The fact that Delphi still exists is amazing in its own right. And it will be around for quite a while because the Veterans Administration has one of the largest installed bases of Delphi software in America, if not in the world, that’s still under active development — and it would be horribly expensive to replace with M$ technology (although some does exist). If the VA ever releases any mobile apps, there’s a very good chance they’ll be built with Delphi. Because of this relationship with the VA, Delphi has a rather unusual affinity with medical software developers. My earlier point seems to have been missed … if you’re a CIO on a tight budget and you REALLY want to SAVE MONEY, then it simply makes no sense to ignore AppMethod or RAD Studio today. You cannot talk about either Android or iOS development assuming there’s only one option any more. Android is _mainly_ Java, while iOS is _mainly_ Objective-C. But AppMethod/RAD Studio supports both, and now Swift supports iOS. Also don’t ignore the fact that we’re starting to see Android running on Intel architectures now, which is going to open them up to non-Java tool stacks as well. (Some of the latest low-end Acer tablets run KitKat on Intel CPUs.) Personally, I see the potential for much more heterogeneity in terms of development tools for both Android and iOS going forward than we’ve seen in Windows, if for no other reason than one company does NOT control both of them. M$ couldn’t persuade any major phone companies to use their OS, so they simply bought what was for a long time the market leader. I have no idea what they plan to do with Nokia, but M$ currently has less than 5% of the mobile platform market; perhaps Nokia can get them to 10%. Getting back to that CIO again, now he’s going to be faced hiring yet ANOTHER developer to work with ANOTHER dev stack for Nokia’s hardware. That’s now $300k for 3 people using “free” tools vs. $100k and a single $5k tool. Something’s gotta give. Free tools are simply NOT an economical model for companies that MUST have a presence on ALL MOBILE PLATFORMS! -David On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:58 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: It all makes sense to me. As for the individual, I still wonder what the Android market will look like 10 years from now. Since it is Google's baby I think Android has 30 years in it. Look at M$. It has taken them 30+ years to become less relevant. Maybe the cycle is speeding up maybe it is now 15 years. 15 years is good enough for me. The other side is enjoyment. I cannot see myself working on something I do not like.. Maybe Android development might not be fulfilling I won't know until I get a chance to swim in it, and that might be after the new year. On 2014-08-04 15:41, David Schwartz wrote: I understand your point, Keith, but even though Android uses Java, and Java IS considered “mainstream”, that does not seem to be translating into making it easy(er) to find Android mobile developers, is it? The ones out there ARE getting top-dollar, as well as iOS developers. C++ is also a mainstream language, and if you get RAD Studio, you get C++, Pascal (Delphi) and php/HTML5 in the same box, at least two of which ARE “mainstream”. There’s also their newest offering, AppMethod, which has a pricing structure more similar to other RAD Mobile development tools. It’s basically RAD Studio without the Windows-specific stuff (ie., it’s mobile-centric rather than Windows-centric). Honestly, Embarcadero is taking a big gamble by investing in their cross-platform strategy the way they are. Any company seriously looking at
Re: Laptop Recommendations
On 2014-08-12 19:25, Mark Phillips wrote: Does anyone use an Dell XPS15 or M3800 laptop? I am looking at these two models, or perhaps the developer edition with Ubuntu pre-installed. I have read that these machines get really hot...to the point of the machine crashing. Just wondering about anyone's personal experience. Also, any recommendations for other brands? I am looking for a core i7, at least 8 GB or RAM, and a large SSD to run Debian. Many of the native linux machines are huge and thickI liked these two Dell models as they have a sleeker design and don't weigh 10 lbs. That is a lot of machine. Are you doing something that needs that much power and RAM? I watch the ads when looking because I do not need to upgrade right away. I just bought an Dell laptop on sale for $399+tax. i3-4030u / 4GB DDS3 RAM. Was easy to add MINT and the savings was great. Does not seem to heat and I expect it will last well over 6 years. I think 10+ is realistic. Walmart had the exact laptop on display Saturday for $399 and it had a 1tb drive. Mine came with a 500GB drive. Unless you need a lot of power one of these would be a great Linux laptop. Any thoughts on whether to have a small SSD for the OS and a companion hard drive for data, or just blow a wad on a huge SSD (1 TB) for both OS and data? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Laptop Recommendations
I agree with you David. Only thing I would add is it is important to know how the machine will be used. You are right. I have a 12 year old Toshiba that has a 1G Celeron and 256mb of ram. I was able to load and test Qmail Toaster on CentOS 5. However I would never want to do any Drupal development on it. I think short of doing some serious manipulation of tons of data an i3 with virtualization turned on and 4GB of RAM should do just fine. I would expect to be able to run Drupal Commerce localhost with little problem and Drupal Commerce is a resource hog. I would not go below an i3 for any serious dev work unless you are doing some basic LAMP dev. Or just email and web. As you pointed out the prices have fallen substantially. I think the actual question was about heat though. On 2014-08-12 23:58, David Schwartz wrote: I’m surprized that people even bother asking questions like this these days, especially when it comes to Linux. You can run Linux in a system with an 800 MHz Atom CPU, 256 MB of RAM and 20 GB HDD and it runs just fine. There are tiny Media boxes you can get for $50 that have 1.2 GHz ARMs, 4 GB of RAM, gigabit WiFi, and you can plug in as much storage as you want via USB. My 10-year old Dell Inspiron 9300 has a 1.6 GHz Centrino CPU, 3 GB of RAM, and a 120 GB HDD, and while it’s slow to boot Win XP, it runs most apps just fine. (It needs a new battery, tho.) My current machine is a MacBook Pro with a 2.7 GHz quad-core i7, 768 GB SSD, and 16 GB of RAM. I run it with a second 24” HD display, and it’s configured with 20 desktops (10 up and 10 down). I do all of my Windows development in a VMWare VM running Windows 7. It’s fast and I suspect will last a very long time. And under the hood, it’s running some Unix variant (Mach, which is I think a BSD derivative). The thing that kills it (and every other computer I use) is browser windows. Browsers leak memory like crazy. Every one of them. Last fall I bought an ASUS laptop with Win 7 on it from Best Buy for $275 because MS was about to ship Win 8, so the retailers were flushing out everything at a big discount. I don’t even remember how it’s configured, only that it was a screaming deal at the time. Buy whatever you can afford that’s fairly new. It’ll probably work just fine. As for the disk … I’d recommend a Seagate Hybrid Drive. Get the 1TB with 8 or 16 GB of cache. They’re under $100 and nearly as fast as an SSD. (BTW, a word of warning: once you go hybrid or SSD, you’ll want to poke your eyes out waiting for stuff to open up on machines with regular HDDs on them!) -David On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Does anyone use an Dell XPS15 or M3800 laptop? I am looking at these two models, or perhaps the developer edition with Ubuntu pre-installed. I have read that these machines get really hot...to the point of the machine crashing. Just wondering about anyone's personal experience. Also, any recommendations for other brands? I am looking for a core i7, at least 8 GB or RAM, and a large SSD to run Debian. Many of the native linux machines are huge and thickI liked these two Dell models as they have a sleeker design and don't weigh 10 lbs. Any thoughts on whether to have a small SSD for the OS and a companion hard drive for data, or just blow a wad on a huge SSD (1 TB) for both OS and data? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Installing VirtualBox on Mint 17 KDE failed
Hi, I installed Mint 17 KDE on my desktop today and man very happy so far. Trying to get virtual box running. I read that i should run the command sudo apt-get install virtualbox so I did. This is the output: eading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libgsoap4 libvncserver0 Suggested packages: libvncserver0-dbg virtualbox-guest-additions-iso vde2 Recommended packages: virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-source virtualbox-qt The following NEW packages will be installed: libgsoap4 libvncserver0 virtualbox 0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 519 not upgraded. Need to get 16.2 MB of archives. After this operation, 60.3 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe libgsoap4 amd64 2.8.16-2 [525 kB] Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main libvncserver0 amd64 0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1 [168 kB] Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/multiverse virtualbox amd64 4.3.10-dfsg-1 [15.5 MB] Fetched 16.2 MB in 15s (1,071 kB/s) Selecting previously unselected package libgsoap4:amd64. (Reading database ... 150801 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libgsoap4_2.8.16-2_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libgsoap4:amd64 (2.8.16-2) ... Selecting previously unselected package libvncserver0:amd64. Preparing to unpack .../libvncserver0_0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libvncserver0:amd64 (0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1) ... Selecting previously unselected package virtualbox. Preparing to unpack .../virtualbox_4.3.10-dfsg-1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking virtualbox (4.3.10-dfsg-1) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Setting up libgsoap4:amd64 (2.8.16-2) ... Setting up libvncserver0:amd64 (0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1) ... Setting up virtualbox (4.3.10-dfsg-1) ... * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules [ OK ] * Starting VirtualBox kernel modules * No suitable module for running kernel found [fail] invoke-rc.d: initscript virtualbox, action restart failed. Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-0ubuntu6) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ... - - - - It looks to have failed. any suggestions? Thanks! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Installing VirtualBox on Mint 17 KDE failed - got it installed
Followed this YouTube video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD4vCxtWRdk On 2014-08-16 22:43, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I installed Mint 17 KDE on my desktop today and man very happy so far. Trying to get virtual box running. I read that i should run the command sudo apt-get install virtualbox so I did. This is the output: eading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libgsoap4 libvncserver0 Suggested packages: libvncserver0-dbg virtualbox-guest-additions-iso vde2 Recommended packages: virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-source virtualbox-qt The following NEW packages will be installed: libgsoap4 libvncserver0 virtualbox 0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 519 not upgraded. Need to get 16.2 MB of archives. After this operation, 60.3 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe libgsoap4 amd64 2.8.16-2 [525 kB] Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main libvncserver0 amd64 0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1 [168 kB] Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/multiverse virtualbox amd64 4.3.10-dfsg-1 [15.5 MB] Fetched 16.2 MB in 15s (1,071 kB/s) Selecting previously unselected package libgsoap4:amd64. (Reading database ... 150801 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libgsoap4_2.8.16-2_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libgsoap4:amd64 (2.8.16-2) ... Selecting previously unselected package libvncserver0:amd64. Preparing to unpack .../libvncserver0_0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libvncserver0:amd64 (0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1) ... Selecting previously unselected package virtualbox. Preparing to unpack .../virtualbox_4.3.10-dfsg-1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking virtualbox (4.3.10-dfsg-1) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Setting up libgsoap4:amd64 (2.8.16-2) ... Setting up libvncserver0:amd64 (0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1) ... Setting up virtualbox (4.3.10-dfsg-1) ... * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules [ OK ] * Starting VirtualBox kernel modules * No suitable module for running kernel found [fail] invoke-rc.d: initscript virtualbox, action restart failed. Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-0ubuntu6) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ... - - - - It looks to have failed. any suggestions? Thanks! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
modern.IE
Hi, Anyone install this? Looks like these are not just the O/S but a VM in and of itself. Is that true that these are VM's not just the O/S? Thanks! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Installing VirtualBox on Mint 17 KDE failed
Thanks to everyone's feed back. I was able to get tie VirtualBox installed. On 2014-08-17 11:16, Brian Cluff wrote: In the information that apt gave when you installed was a section that looked like: Suggested packages: libvncserver0-dbg virtualbox-guest-additions-iso vde2 Recommended packages: virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-source virtualbox-qt For Virtualbox to work you have to have the kernel modules provided by the package virtualbox-dkms for it to work. Why that's not a dependency I can't tell you. I would also recommend that you install virtualbox-qt and virtualbox-guest-additions-iso to get a complete install of virtualbox. I know that Ubunutu has turned on APT's system to automatically install recommended packages. Mint must have turned that off. The downside is obvious, you get broken or partially functional software, the upside is that when you install stuff it can be smaller because it doesn't drag in a whole bunch of other stuff automatically. I believe that Ubuntu's setting has greatly helped promote the myth that KDE programs are huge and bloated because when the Unity folks install a KDE program is also brings in various other programs that aren't essential to it's core functionality but then again, the programs are feature rich when they do get on your system. For Ubuntu people that don't want the bloat you can add the --no-install-recommends to your apt-get command to tell it to just install the program you are requesting and any of it listed dependencies, but nothing else. Brian Cluff On 08/16/2014 08:43 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I installed Mint 17 KDE on my desktop today and man very happy so far. Trying to get virtual box running. I read that i should run the command sudo apt-get install virtualbox so I did. This is the output: eading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libgsoap4 libvncserver0 Suggested packages: libvncserver0-dbg virtualbox-guest-additions-iso vde2 Recommended packages: virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-source virtualbox-qt The following NEW packages will be installed: libgsoap4 libvncserver0 virtualbox 0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 519 not upgraded. Need to get 16.2 MB of archives. After this operation, 60.3 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe libgsoap4 amd64 2.8.16-2 [525 kB] Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main libvncserver0 amd64 0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1 [168 kB] Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/multiverse virtualbox amd64 4.3.10-dfsg-1 [15.5 MB] Fetched 16.2 MB in 15s (1,071 kB/s) Selecting previously unselected package libgsoap4:amd64. (Reading database ... 150801 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libgsoap4_2.8.16-2_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libgsoap4:amd64 (2.8.16-2) ... Selecting previously unselected package libvncserver0:amd64. Preparing to unpack .../libvncserver0_0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libvncserver0:amd64 (0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1) ... Selecting previously unselected package virtualbox. Preparing to unpack .../virtualbox_4.3.10-dfsg-1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking virtualbox (4.3.10-dfsg-1) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Setting up libgsoap4:amd64 (2.8.16-2) ... Setting up libvncserver0:amd64 (0.9.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1) ... Setting up virtualbox (4.3.10-dfsg-1) ... * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules [ OK ] * Starting VirtualBox kernel modules * No suitable module for running kernel found [fail] invoke-rc.d: initscript virtualbox, action restart failed. Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-0ubuntu6) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ... - - - - It looks to have failed. any suggestions? Thanks! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Don't I feel silly!!
Hi, Ok, it was me. I put the domain first and the Ip needs to go first Yikes... Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
/etc/hosts not routing
Hi, I am running Mint 17 KDE. I have another box configured as a LAMP server with each domain having a TLD of dev. I usually add a line for each of he vhosts into the /etc/hosts file and it has worked for years. Yesterday I moved from Kubuntu to Mint and now that is not working. I added a line domain.dev 192.168.xx.xx into the /etc/hosts file for several dev domains and I cannot reach them in the browser so I tried to ping them with ping domain.dev and that failed. I can ping the LAMP dev box with it's IP. I have used the hosts file in this way for maybe 7 years in both Win and Linux without an issue until now. A search of Google shows others have had the same issue. I was unable to find a solution. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: modern.IE
Hey so I got the Modern.IE configured and it creates an appliance that is imported into the VirtualBox. I downloaded the Modern.IE win7 IE 11 and the VirtualBox for Win7. I was able to import the appliance and it started with a configuration screen. I put it away for the evening, however I think I'll complete it sometime tomorrow and will share my experience or ask any questions if I get stuck!! I really like Mint 17 KDE and I think I am really going to enjoy this visualization. Lots to learn... Thank you all for your support over the years. I could have not gotten this far without you all!! Keith On 2014-08-17 20:36, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, Anyone install this? Looks like these are not just the O/S but a VM in and of itself. Is that true that these are VM's not just the O/S? Thanks! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: /etc/hosts not routing
On 2014-08-18 00:20, James Dugger wrote: Shouldn't the IP address come first? 192.168.xx.xx domain.dev Yes, I realized that just after psoting. Also do you have this in the /etc/hosts files of both boxes? just the client box. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:55 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I am running Mint 17 KDE. I have another box configured as a LAMP server with each domain having a TLD of dev. I usually add a line for each of he vhosts into the /etc/hosts file and it has worked for years. Yesterday I moved from Kubuntu to Mint and now that is not working. I added a line domain.dev 192.168.xx.xx into the /etc/hosts file for several dev domains and I cannot reach them in the browser so I tried to ping them with ping domain.dev and that failed. I can ping the LAMP dev box with it's IP. I have used the hosts file in this way for maybe 7 years in both Win and Linux without an issue until now. A search of Google shows others have had the same issue. I was unable to find a solution. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- James LINKEDIN [2] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/james-h-dugger/15/64b/74a/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Installfest matters
On 2014-08-19 12:10, Lisa Kachold wrote: Well if it's that hard to maintain a non-profit how does the San Diego LUG, and the Portland and Seattle LUGS manage? How does Heatsync labs do it? It is EASY! I cannot answer that. We are a different group and maybe what is important to those groups is not important to PLUG. Have you contacted those goups to see what they think after the fact? Maybe it has something to do with being in AZ. AZ is more conservative and tends to like less oversight especially government oversight. By becoming a non-profit PLUG would become a government entity with all that comes with that. Please keep in mind it does not matter to me either way. I responded just to share. If the group wants to incorporate I am along for the ride. If doing so does not change PLUG in any significant way then it is not an issue for me. If, however incorporating causes problems, then it effects all of us. Why would we, who can read any HOWTO and do any technical thing, think we would need either a CPU or a lawyer? This is a legal issue and I'm sure it requires the ongoing expertise of the experts. Going it alone is risky. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:40 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Around 1999, while living in Tucson, I joined PLUG and the Tucson Free Unix Group (TFUG) lists. For years we went back and forth about formalizing TFUG. We had at least one meeting and there was lots of discussions on the list. After several years it was decided that no structure was the best structure. You bring up a couple of the benefits, what about the down side. Creating a non profit takes a lot of work. And once that status has been reached there is on going requirements that probably require the help of a lawyer and a CPA. Then there is the issue of ownership and control. This process could start out with good intentions and could turn evil real quick. Or maybe the maintainers quit. Who steps in to take over? What might their intent be? Structure can be good, however I think most of us just want to enjoy Linux and Linux related stuff and be free in doing so. I've been a member of this list for about 15 years and the people on this list have helped me immensely. I appreciate all the help you folks have given me and I'm sure I would not have gotten as far without your help. Keith On 2014-08-19 03:02, Lisa Kachold wrote: Great idea! I doubt that you will get them (him) to agree to follow anything that includes rules and structure to allow for success ( a large healthy LUG). As long as people are arguing minutia they will never notice all the secondary gain that keeps successful professionals uninvolved and uninterested. In 2002 I suggested Nonprofit status so people running the LUG functions and donating funds and equipment can write off reasonable tax exceptions. I wrote the whole process up in the discuss list which was the impetus for heatsink labs in Mesa to jump to grants and success through internships, etc. I told Hans I would do it all myself and he laughed in my face. Anyone who has lived in a comparably sized city knows what a healthy LUG is capable of simply by following direction already decreed in various guides. So, after the installfest conversation in PLUG IRC yesterday regarding installfest matters, I noticed that a lot of the items discussed are actually guidelines already presented in the Linux Installfest HOWTO. Many improvements to the PLUG Installfest can be made by following these guidelines. Why are we beating a dead horse... Many of these items are part of the HOWTO already. I propose the Linux Installfest HOWTO be used as a guide for discussion and installfests. Has everyone had a chance to look these over? Can we agree to use the HOWTO as a guideline? I believe these installfest items will be on the table for discussion tomorrow evening. Is that correct? If so, I will be attending but not exactly at 7pm. You can either fill me in or wait. I'm thinking 8ish at the latest. As far as I am concerned, I think one thing we can improve and hopefully agree upon is following the installfest HOWTO as a guideline. See you tomorrow!!! :) Marcia --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1]
Re: Installfest matters
I've watched this country become divided over the past 4 or 5 years. Now I see it in the PLUG. I think I need to start attending the meetings. We are not going to agree on everything. Debate is good. I'd like to hear Han's thoughts on not running HTTPS everywhere. And I'd like to hear the debate for running HTTPS everywhere. I surely do not know everything... I ask many more questions than I answer. On 2014-08-19 13:54, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: Wow, this is really good input!! My focus today is with regards to the installfest HOWTO and the installfest discussion that is going to happen, I think, Tonight. Of course, I agree that there is ample opportunity for more than just one LUG here in the valley who wants to move forward with Non profit status and strong leadership with voting, etc. My past experience with LUGs is that each one is different but usually had good motivation and ethics. Unfortunately, I see a lot of LUGs with issues these days as benevolent dictators have become BDFL. When people stop coming out and participating or people become frustrated due to politics, that is when I (personally - IMHO) believe the LUG is not as successful as it could be. When installfests and LUGs are not using the HOWTOs as a guide, it makes sense that the LUG is not as successful or the installfest is not as successful as it could and very well should be. The HOWTOs are there as a guide for success! Any Installfest following the HOWTO can be a success without hours of discussion or debate. Removing bias parties with self interest is really imperative. The installfest and the LUG should really be a welcome and warm environment. For example, we had one member volunteer who has not returned for the past 2 installfests after he was scolded by an Ubuntu LoCo member for installing a Windows lookalike theme on his own Linux machine for his brother. This happened in front of other attendees and installers. Why the rudeness? Fear of liability? Still, why the rude tone? It is unnecessary! Now, I don't know why this member stopped attending. There could be another reason. However, it doesn't look so good that he was scolded rudely and then never returned. Just for the record, I did NOT agree with the comment last LUG meeting where the LUG BDFL - Hans, dissuaded use of HTTPS EVERYWHERE from the EFF. I understand that maybe Hans doesn't think that people in that crowd could use it properly or something. However, if that is the case, why not demonstrate this for proper use. Perhaps he did not want to promote HTTPS EVERYWHERE. To not promote freedom at a LUG, seems unLUGish to me. Of course, that's just my 2 cents. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:29 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-08-19 12:10, Lisa Kachold wrote: Well if it's that hard to maintain a non-profit how does the San Diego LUG, and the Portland and Seattle LUGS manage? How does Heatsync labs do it? It is EASY! I cannot answer that. We are a different group and maybe what is important to those groups is not important to PLUG. Have you contacted those goups to see what they think after the fact? Maybe it has something to do with being in AZ. AZ is more conservative and tends to like less oversight especially government oversight. By becoming a non-profit PLUG would become a government entity with all that comes with that. Please keep in mind it does not matter to me either way. I responded just to share. If the group wants to incorporate I am along for the ride. If doing so does not change PLUG in any significant way then it is not an issue for me. If, however incorporating causes problems, then it effects all of us. Why would we, who can read any HOWTO and do any technical thing, think we would need either a CPU or a lawyer? This is a legal issue and I'm sure it requires the ongoing expertise of the experts. Going it alone is risky. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:40 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Around 1999, while living in Tucson, I joined PLUG and the Tucson Free Unix Group (TFUG) lists. For years we went back and forth about formalizing TFUG. We had at least one meeting and there was lots of discussions on the list. After several years it was decided that no structure was the best structure. You bring up a couple of the benefits, what about the down side. Creating a non profit takes a lot of work. And once that status has been reached there is on going requirements that probably require the help of a lawyer and a CPA. Then there is the issue of ownership and control. This process could start out with good intentions and could turn evil real quick. Or maybe the maintainers quit. Who steps in to take over? What might their intent be? Structure can be good, however I think most of us just want to enjoy Linux and Linux related stuff and be free in doing so. I've been a member of this list for about 15 years and the people on this list have helped me immensely. I appreciate all
Re: Installfest matters
Your having people sign a waiver when the enter the installfest? I missed this comment that is embedded below : But I really DO NOT appreciate when the ones that don't pull the weight are trying to tell the ones who pull the wait what to do!! Back to lurking mode On 2014-08-19 14:08, Walter Mack wrote: A couple of comments: from the HOWTO: _ Roles: People involved in an installfest will assume one or more of the following roles coordinator contact for all other participants -- TODD host has the connection to the location --TODD receptionist * greets people as they come in, gives them a name tag and has them sign a waiver * can direct people to the restrooms, the nearest computer store * orders food and beverages tier 1 support people who are knowledgeable about Linux and are willing to share their knowledge and provide hands-on assistance to users -- TODD and others tier 2 support sets up and maintains network hardware and services (DNS, DHCP), mirrors of Linux distributions -- TODD ___ during installfest (everyting done by TODD) 3.1.3. ADMINISTRATION Linux distributions (distros) Make sure that you will have several copies of the latest versions of the major Linux distributions available on CD. To learn which distributions to make available, please do a little research on the Web sites listed in the appendix of this document. installfest server You may want to consider setting up a server for: * DNS * DHCP * mirrors of distributions You should provide multiple methods of accessing the distributions on the server: * FTP * rcp * HTTP * CD burning * NFS _ networking equipment someone will need to bring network switches and cables --TODD signage You should have a few signs posted to help people find their way around the location and provide other information. --TODD The people who run the fest need to be at the location at least one hour before the fest is to begin. They will need time to set up the network, installfest server, power system, signage, etc. --TODD Make sure that all areas are cleaned up because you may want to use the location again and you do not want to give the location owner a bad impression. Look for: items people have forgotten, items that people brought as give aways, drink cans and cups. --TODD and others (and I see a lot of people JUST STANDING AROUND HAVING AN OPINION). Does this look like a pattern? I think its easy to have pie in the sky ideas of how to do this better. I'm also convinced that there are plenty of things we can do better. But I really DO NOT appreciate when the ones that don't pull the weight are trying to tell the ones who pull the wait what to do!! I usually consider myself well tempered, but this discussion is getting to me. On 08/18/2014 10:16 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: So, after the installfest conversation in PLUG IRC yesterday regarding installfest matters, I noticed that a lot of the items discussed are actually guidelines already presented in the Linux Installfest HOWTO. Many improvements to the PLUG Installfest can be made by following these guidelines. Why are we beating a dead horse... Many of these items are part of the HOWTO already. I propose the Linux Installfest HOWTO be used as a guide for discussion and installfests. Has everyone had a chance to look these over? Can we agree to use the HOWTO as a guideline? I believe these installfest items will be on the table for discussion tomorrow evening. Is that correct? If so, I will be attending but not exactly at 7pm. You can either fill me in or wait. I'm thinking 8ish at the latest. As far as I am concerned, I think one thing we can improve and hopefully agree upon is following the installfest HOWTO as a guideline. See you tomorrow!!! :) Marcia --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Installfest matters
Are both of the pages the same group? https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=565460910248711id=556228454505290 https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=556228454505290story_fbid=565462070248595 On 2014-08-20 00:46, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: Great info Mark. I am sure the new Maricopa Pinal GNU Linux users group will find this useful as they complete their charter. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Just to add my two cents to the non-profit discussion. I set up a 501c3 corporation over 10 years ago for my daughters' club softball teams. I was the head coach and president of the corporation. I had a lawyer help with the application as probono workI downloaded the application from the IRS, filled it out, asked the attorney a few questions, he reviewed the final application, and the IRS approved it. I kept the books in gnucash and filed the annual tax forms myselfa few reports from gnucash and some electronic filings with the state and IRS. I had three teams and over $45K in annual donations, so it was not that small of an operation. It was easy. It is amazing what one can learn by just reading the IRS handouts. I did not need a CPA or attorney after the initial filing with the IRS. I also haven't been audited or sent to jail for my 501c3. I am also not a CPA or attorney...just an engineer with an MBA. I think there is a certain mystic about non-profit organizations that is just not true. It is not that big of a deal. You need three officers, just like any other AZ corporation to get started. I am not volunteering to set up the non-profit, nor do I have an opinion whether PLUG should be a non-profit or not. I am just saying that from my personal experience, it is not as scary and difficult to setup and run a non-profit as part of this discussion is making it out to be. Mark On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net wrote: There are ongoing costs to being a non-profit. You do have to file taxes every year. I believe in the past that was not so if you were not having a certain amount of funds running through your accounts. Additionally, the board, or officers, are responsible for the accuracy of those taxes and the compliance of the organization which should not ever be overlooked. I would not say its a good thing or a bad thing. I would say it is a good thing if you have a bunch of corporate donors lined up to provide significant funding to some of the plug activities. If you are speaking of a $100 here or there (under $1k/year), I would say that it is a waste of time becoming a non-profit. You will have to have money to maintain the following... 1. CPA for tax season, 2. Lawyer (mostly for initial filings, but also for organization), 3. Commercial bank account (banks charge for those things). This is my 2 cents only. I was once on the board of a charitable organization that failed. It was a lot of work and I always had concerns about money mismanagement. Gilbert On 8/19/2014 12:24 PM, Ed wrote: The need to be a non-profit, and not being one, has bit us in the ass in the past. this should be done now as there is no pressing need - when the need occurs is not when you want to be starting this. There are some initial costs (fees) just becoming a state recognized organization, getting a federal non-profit status will take longer - The purpose would be education. A bank account is needed and finding a lawyer/accountant that is willing to support the group pro-bono (post a wanted add at ASU) are also needed. Don't skimp on infrastructure - you're starting a distributed group, support it. Start with a group of founders (10+) - each founder brings a C-note Start fresh - don't reverse into an established papertrail - don't play adopt a fubar (unless that fubar is a shell of a listed public company - even then it's a bad idea) Keep detailed records of who does what when, you are maintaining IP now. when talking to other non-profits, ask who they use - get a referral - take a meeting - make a list. think about who is good for the advisory board (ie not people you now know) pay them. involve more people than you think you will need - you will need more - tasks should be assigned to teams (not people) share everything - keep open books --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -
Re: Installfest matters
Sorry, did you already post the day and time? On 2014-08-23 10:57, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: Nope. Meetings are not on the same day as PLUG (currently). However, this is not necessarily for PLUG members, anyway. We are further east in the Technology Corridor near the Polytechnic Campus, GT Advanced, and EVIT. And as Hans mentioned many times... competition is great. So anyway, the meetings are set(right now) for 3rd Wednesdays. We are near Communiversity, EVIT and the Polytechnic Campus. In the beginning, we may not have a lot of membership. However, we expect that there will be interest by some people in that corridor. Thank you for your opinion, though - regarding the time for the LUG meeting. We actually do take feedback into consideration. We do conflict with the Red Hat Meetup, though. Now, here are some details. We are going to additionally have a short presentation on HTTPS Everywhere. We do not have a lot of guest presenters at this time. If someone wants to give a presentation, let us know. In the future, we plan to have some presenters who may not be with us in person but have some great projects and information to present from a distance. On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Alan Dayley aday...@gmail.com wrote: Great question, Jerry. Kaoru, I am a supporter of the idea of user groups proliferating in Arizona. Sometimes one group seems to have a maximum size and grows no farther, with additional opportunities for contribution stymied by this amorphous maximum. Additional groups can create space and place for more people to join in the movement. More groups also means more variety of topics and faster learning for those who want to regularly attend the meetings of several groups. We might hope that someday there may be so many user groups that it is not possible to prevent conflicting meeting times and dates. Today is not that day. It is disappointing to think that a new group would choose to meet on the same day and time of another long established group. Alan On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Jerry Snitselaar d...@snitselaar.org wrote: On Thu Aug 21 14, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: [1]http://www.mpglug.org [1] Meetings to be held in the Town of Queen Creek Annex. Is that a typo on the website, or are the meetings going to be on the same night as the PLUG east valley meetings? Regards, Jerry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] Links: -- [1] http://www.mpglug.org [2] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Installfest matters
Sorry I see it is the 3rd Wednesdays. What is the time? On 2014-08-23 11:12, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Sorry, did you already post the day and time? On 2014-08-23 10:57, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: Nope. Meetings are not on the same day as PLUG (currently). However, this is not necessarily for PLUG members, anyway. We are further east in the Technology Corridor near the Polytechnic Campus, GT Advanced, and EVIT. And as Hans mentioned many times... competition is great. So anyway, the meetings are set(right now) for 3rd Wednesdays. We are near Communiversity, EVIT and the Polytechnic Campus. In the beginning, we may not have a lot of membership. However, we expect that there will be interest by some people in that corridor. Thank you for your opinion, though - regarding the time for the LUG meeting. We actually do take feedback into consideration. We do conflict with the Red Hat Meetup, though. Now, here are some details. We are going to additionally have a short presentation on HTTPS Everywhere. We do not have a lot of guest presenters at this time. If someone wants to give a presentation, let us know. In the future, we plan to have some presenters who may not be with us in person but have some great projects and information to present from a distance. On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Alan Dayley aday...@gmail.com wrote: Great question, Jerry. Kaoru, I am a supporter of the idea of user groups proliferating in Arizona. Sometimes one group seems to have a maximum size and grows no farther, with additional opportunities for contribution stymied by this amorphous maximum. Additional groups can create space and place for more people to join in the movement. More groups also means more variety of topics and faster learning for those who want to regularly attend the meetings of several groups. We might hope that someday there may be so many user groups that it is not possible to prevent conflicting meeting times and dates. Today is not that day. It is disappointing to think that a new group would choose to meet on the same day and time of another long established group. Alan On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Jerry Snitselaar d...@snitselaar.org wrote: On Thu Aug 21 14, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: [1]http://www.mpglug.org [1] Meetings to be held in the Town of Queen Creek Annex. Is that a typo on the website, or are the meetings going to be on the same night as the PLUG east valley meetings? Regards, Jerry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] Links: -- [1] http://www.mpglug.org [2] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Question About System 76 Hardware
I agree with both Brian and Joseph. I take the cheap approach to buying hardware. I am a LAMP developer and do not play games nor do any heavy duty graphics editing ETC. So I can get away with cheaper less powerful hardware. That is not so much an issue any longer. I bought my fist computer in 1986 and my first clone in 1987 - an 8088 I have had one failure in all that time and it was a hard drive at work in around 1997 or so. I've gotten some really good deals on Black Friday and during back to school sales. For instance I was just at Walmart and they have a Dell laptop for $349. It is an i3, 4GB RAM, and a 1GB HD. I only buy when I find a really good deals. Several months ago Staples was offering a Dell with an i3 w/visualization and threads... 4GB RAM, and a 500GB HD. It was $399.99. It was a steal so I got it. It runs Mint and does visualization just fine. Could probably add more RAM. If you watch Staples, Ofc Depot, Dell... etc you can snag some really good deals. I was sitting with another developer a month or so ago and he had a MAC Book that probably cost around $2000.00. I'd be afraid to take that out of the house. In a nutshell I do not buy the warranty because it would increase the cost significantly. On 2014-08-31 14:34, Brian Cluff wrote: I was going to write a long reply to this message, but Joseph wrote almost exactly what I was going to say. If you treat your laptop well and carry it in a padded bag and don't run it in harsh environments, you'll almost certainly not need it. I tend to get the insurance for my cellphones because they are essentially little laptops (without the clamshell design that protects the screen) that are run in harsh environments and aren't kept in little padded bags. I've had to cash in on my cell insurance 4 times, but I've only once had a laptop get broken and that was because it got put into the back of a truck with a bunch of other stuff put on top of it and it crushed it. Now I just make sure my laptop is put in a good place when transporting it and all is well, and the money I've saved from not paying for the extended warranty would more than pay for a couple of laptops. Brian Cluff On 08/31/2014 11:27 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: I've never purchased an extended warranty for a computer. It's a form of insurance, so you can guarantee that, statistically, the cost is greater than the predictive (actuarial) cost of repair or replacement. given that gross margins on extended warranties for electronics (particularly computers) run in the 80%-90% range (which is why sales pushes them so hard), you can bet that your chances of needing that coverage are slim indeed. I currently have 4 desktop-like systems and 2 laptop-like systems. The youngest is from 2012 (Chromebook with an ARM CPU), the oldest is from 2009 (Desktop Atom CPU). My nephew took my previous oldest machine, an AMD Athlon single-core from 2004, and uses it to play minecraft. Over the past 20 years I've only had one machine (out of 20 or so) fail, and that was a cheap (Dell) chipset fan that failed after running 24X365 for 8 years. In my experience, the vast majority of laptop failures are because the machine was dropped or mistreated in some way. If you tend to toss machines around or drop them then I'd recommend purchasing a less expensive system or a desktop (or a ruggedized laptop if you must, but those are pricey). If you buy a laptop and just take good care of it, the chances of a failure due to parts or labor (for any tier-1 manufacturer) is essentially 0 for the first 3 years. BTW, one of the older machines I currently run is a System76 machine, one of the first Atom(330) based Meerkat boxes from early 2009. The CD failed (plastic spindle broke) about a year ago, but the box still runs just fine (I rarely had use for the CD drive anyway). I've run Windows in a VM on the Meerkat, but it's kind of painful to run Windows in a VM when the real chip is a tiny Atom 330... I've run Windows in a VM at work (but only when absolutely required to do so) on a Core i5 chip, and it's a lot more tolerable there (about as tolerable as Windows ever gets). On 08/30/2014 04:47 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: For all of you System 76 users, do you recommend the extended warranty for 3 years? In other words, do you find you need this warranty, or is the standard 1 year warranty enough? I have never purchased a System 76 machine, and I am in the market for a new laptop. The 17.3 Kudu Professional looks like a good fit. Also, any issues running Windows in a virtual machine on these beasts? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -
Why the police are listening to your calls and why Congress won't stop them
This is LOCAL Gov. Notice how they hide that they have this equipment. They are forced to sign a non-disclosure. http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/police-listening-calls-congress-wont-stop/ Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Another Nail in the M$ Coffin
Hi Ya'll, I only use Windows for a handful of things. I have a laptop running win7. A couple days ago the automatic updates kicked in and upon completion I was unable to use the computer. Every time I attempted to launch an application I would be greeted with an error message stating the app could not be launched due to security issues. As it turns out my profile was corrupted. I created a new user and that user works just fine. As it appears I will need to move everything from the corrupted user over to the new user. Another nail in the M$ Coffin... I'm running Min 17 KDE on my other laptop and desktop. So far so good!! I hope to some day to be completely free from M$ at some point. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: samba trouble
I am by no means an expert. I was looking at your command : sudo
/etc/init.d/samba stop and was wondering if you should be using samba.
Have you tried : sudo service smbd stop ?
On 2014-09-06 05:01, Derek Trotter wrote:
A few days ago I was given a computer. I decided to try using samba
to move data from one to the other. I installed samba but couldn't
get it to work. I've googled this and found many people having
problems with samba, but none with the problem I'm having. Please
help and thanks to anyone who can.
This machine is running Kubuntu 14.04.1 LTS Amd64 version
I tried connecting to the shared folder from the other computer. It
couldn't see there was anything being shared on this one. I tried
using smb4k on this one, but nothing showed as being shared.
Then I tried the following:
delboy@ladmo:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[sudo] password for delboy:
delboy@ladmo:~$
I gave it the password and it returned nothing. Then I tried to stop
it. Again nothing.
delboy@ladmo:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop
delboy@ladmo:~$
The stop option doesn't appear to work
delboy@ladmo:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba status
* nmbd is running
* smbd is running
delboy@ladmo:~$
the force-reload option didn't work, just like the stop option didn't.
delboy@ladmo:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
delboy@ladmo:~$
The reload option seems to work.
delboy@ladmo:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload
* Reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf smbd [ OK ]
delboy@ladmo:~$
Testparm returned the following:
delboy@ladmo:~$ testparm
Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
rlimit_max: increasing rlimit_max (1024) to minimum Windows limit
(16384)
Processing section [homes]
Processing section [music]
Processing section [printers]
Processing section [print$]
Loaded services file OK.
Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE
Thanks to to anyone that can help.
Here's my /etc/smb.conf
#=== Global Settings ===
[global]
## Browsing/Identification ###
# Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will
part of
workgroup = WORKGROUP
# server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field
server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)
# Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section:
# WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to enable its WINS
Server
# wins support = no
# WINS Server - Tells the NMBD components of Samba to be a WINS Client
# Note: Samba can be either a WINS Server, or a WINS Client, but NOT
both
; wins server = w.x.y.z
# This will prevent nmbd to search for NetBIOS names through DNS.
dns proxy = no
Networking
# The specific set of interfaces / networks to bind to
# This can be either the interface name or an IP address/netmask;
# interface names are normally preferred
interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0
# Only bind to the named interfaces and/or networks; you must use the
# 'interfaces' option above to use this.
# It is recommended that you enable this feature if your Samba machine
is
# not protected by a firewall or is a firewall itself. However, this
# option cannot handle dynamic or non-broadcast interfaces correctly.
bind interfaces only = yes
Debugging/Accounting
# This tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine
# that connects
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
# Cap the size of the individual log files (in KiB).
max log size = 1000
# If you want Samba to only log through syslog then set the following
# parameter to 'yes'.
# syslog only = no
# We want Samba to log a minimum amount of information to syslog.
Everything
# should go to /var/log/samba/log.{smbd,nmbd} instead. If you want to
log
# through syslog you should set the following parameter to something
higher.
syslog = 0
# Do something sensible when Samba crashes: mail the admin a backtrace
panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d
### Authentication ###
# Server role. Defines in which mode Samba will operate. Possible
# values are standalone server, member server, classic primary
# domain controller, classic backup domain controller, active
# directory domain controller.
#
# Most people will want standalone sever or member server.
# Running as active directory domain controller will require first
# running samba-tool domain provision to wipe databases and create a
# new domain.
server role = standalone server
# If you are using encrypted passwords, Samba will need to know what
# password database type you are using.
passdb backend = tdbsam
obey pam restrictions = yes
# This boolean parameter controls whether Samba attempts to sync the
Unix
# password with the SMB password when the encrypted SMB password in the
# passdb is changed.
unix password sync = yes
# For Unix password sync to work on a Debian GNU/Linux system, the
following
# parameters must be set (thanks to Ian Kahan
ka...@informatik.tu-muenchen.de for
# sending the correct chat script for the passwd program
Re: Installfest related question
I recently bought a Dell laptop that came with win7. I started it and did some testing as I recall. So I launched the Win7. I then replaced win7 with Mint 17 KDE. I need access to windows and would like to run a copy of Win7 in a VM if possible. It is my understanding that running windows in a VM is a violation of the user license. Is this true? Where can I get an ISO and can I use the codes provided with the laptop? Running a full version of Win7 in a VM would be the best solution for me. Thanks!! Keith On 2014-09-11 13:45, Stephen M wrote: Harold, Todd has a few ISOs of WINs 7 and I might have some myself. Yes WINs 7 can make a snapshot of the system or make a recovery disk which would be something you could do. I've never done it myself but there are great articles out there on google to tell you how. If anything you could wait until next Saturday and some of us will have ISOs for you to play with. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Lisa Kachold foo...@it-clowns.com wrote: Jill, I believe that the Hackfest is scheduled on that Saturday. [2nd Saturday of every month from 11:00 to 2PM). Hans has some considerations about scheduling conflicting meetings. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Harold iscream...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking forward to the delivery of a new PC, which has Win 7 installed on it. I would like to bring it to the Sept 20 installfest for advice and assistance in setting the machine up with the latest version Centos 64-bit system. I would like to be able to run Win 7 either in a VM or as dual boot. I haven't had a Windows system for quite a number of years and I know some changes have been made. If I boot the system and test (play around with it) will I be compromising my ultimate goal by having Win tie into the motherboard, or calling home or some such system change that will prevent setting up dual boot or getting a copy of the system for use in a VM environment? My goal for the Win system, in addition to learning what changes have been made since XP will be to run Minecraft and the Garmin GPS update program. Sorry if this is too long and confused, but at the moment I am a bit confused. Harold On 09/04/2014 10:00 AM, jill wrote: This Saturday's Installfest has moved! UAT has some conflicting scheduling this fall so Gangplank in Chandler has kindly agreed to host for these dates. Updated event info: http://phxlinux.org/component/jevents/icalrepeat.detail/2014/09/06/1242112/-/moved-linux-installfest.html [2] The Installfest will be at Gangplank on: 9/6 9/20 10/18 We'll have regular Installfest hours of 10am - 4pm. Gangplank is located at 260 S Arizona Ave Chandler, AZ 85224, which is the NW corner of Arizona Ave and Frye. There is a free public parking garage across the street, with a crosswalk leading from the garage to our doorstep. http://gangplankhq.com/wp-content/uploads/GPParking-1.jpg [3] -Jill --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- Stephen Melheim 602-400-7707 smelhei...@gmail.com Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://phxlinux.org/component/jevents/icalrepeat.detail/2014/09/06/1242112/-/moved-linux-installfest.html?Itemid=1amp;filter_reset=1 [3] http://gangplankhq.com/wp-content/uploads/GPParking-1.jpg --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
I have a laptop that is on 14 - 16 hours a day everyday for maybe 4 years. I took the battery out of it long ago in the hopes of salvaging it. No problems so far with either the battery or the laptop. I hear about all the hardware failures... I have been blessed not to experience but a couple in 26 years. I often wonder if most hardware failures are due to unfiltered power. I use Tripp Light Isobars. Any thoughts on this? On 2014-09-19 11:53, Stephen Partington wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
I hope to get more than 3 out of mine. On 2014-09-19 13:08, Stephen Partington wrote: Well that could simply be the fact that they used substandard capacitors and part for the ethernet, and as such it failed over time. manufactures consider laptops to be pretty disposable after 2-3 years, any older and they tend to get squirrely. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: That explains the fan but not the internet switch. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: what I heard... is it true?
I've been using these since the early 90's http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-ISOBAR8ULTRA-Isobar-Protector/dp/B511U7/ref=pd_sim_pc_3?ie=UTF8refRID=15XC2HF1XSAX68KHCHRV Not cheap however I suspect they add to the longevity of my equipment. The transformer outside my house exploded one afternoon 12 or so years ago and my computer survived it. On 2014-09-19 15:08, Michael Havens wrote: Tripp Light Isobars. is that a type of power strip? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I hope to get more than 3 out of mine. On 2014-09-19 13:08, Stephen Partington wrote: Well that could simply be the fact that they used substandard capacitors and part for the ethernet, and as such it failed over time. manufactures consider laptops to be pretty disposable after 2-3 years, any older and they tend to get squirrely. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: That explains the fan but not the internet switch. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: At one time this was very true, and in some ways it can still be true. parts like the fans wear out, and due to the space constraints in a laptop this is more critical, and there are some thermal considerations to think about as well. but as long as you are giving decent airflow around the laptop, and you are prepared to swap a fan sooner than later it should have no real impact on the hardware. I run mine for work 9+ hours straight and the previous one i had did this for 4.4 years before it finally got weird enough to be replaced. I would most definitely enable power savings on your monitor because that screan can suffer from burnout, and its not as easy to replace as a monitor. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I read on another board that it was bad to leave a laptop on 24/7 Is that so? If it is I guess that is why my laptop is having problems! :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Aaron Swartz movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXr-2hwTk58 On 2014-09-22 02:01, der.hans wrote: Am 04. Sep, 2014 schwätzte Shawn Badger so: moin moin, I watched that a couple weeks ago, what a great story. I am still amazed at the ignorance of the FBI when it comes to what is considered a computer crime. Can we show it at PLUG? I think Aaron would recommend just showing it :). I have contacted takepart to see if we can have a screening. ciao, der.hans On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:02 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, hadn't heard about this movie. I did hear an ad for a movie with Lessig in it today, but only heard his name, not the ad. Not sure if there's something else with him coming out. http://www.takepart.com/internets-own-boy Tim Berners-Lee ... Himself Cory Doctorow ... Himself Peter Eckersley ... Himself Lawrence Lessig ... Himself http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3268458/?ref_=nm_knf_t3 ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Hope has two beautiful daughters: Anger and Courage. Anger at the way # things are, and Courage to struggle to create things as they should be. # -- St. Augustine --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Aaron Swartz movie
After watching the trailer for the movie I would be interested in seeing it AND talking about activism. I recently launched a blog at http://www.ChandlerAzConservative.com/ . I see the Internet as a very important tool for grass roots movements, so we must keep it free and unrestricted. I for one do not want to be controlled by my Government. I want a government that protects my right and is not involved in my life. Some structure is good, however we are far past that point. Keith On 2014-09-22 02:01, der.hans wrote: Am 04. Sep, 2014 schwätzte Shawn Badger so: moin moin, I watched that a couple weeks ago, what a great story. I am still amazed at the ignorance of the FBI when it comes to what is considered a computer crime. Can we show it at PLUG? I think Aaron would recommend just showing it :). I have contacted takepart to see if we can have a screening. ciao, der.hans On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:02 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, hadn't heard about this movie. I did hear an ad for a movie with Lessig in it today, but only heard his name, not the ad. Not sure if there's something else with him coming out. http://www.takepart.com/internets-own-boy Tim Berners-Lee ... Himself Cory Doctorow ... Himself Peter Eckersley ... Himself Lawrence Lessig ... Himself http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3268458/?ref_=nm_knf_t3 ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Hope has two beautiful daughters: Anger and Courage. Anger at the way # things are, and Courage to struggle to create things as they should be. # -- St. Augustine --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Aaron Swartz movie
You mean Holder? I think we will have much better luck with our Senators and reps. It is going to take a lot of people to make a difference. On 2014-09-23 13:12, Lisa Kachold wrote: At the very least sign the petition to DOJ to provide better checks and balances: http://www.takepart.com/internets-own-boy [1] On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:01 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 04. Sep, 2014 schwätzte Shawn Badger so: moin moin, I watched that a couple weeks ago, what a great story. I am still amazed at the ignorance of the FBI when it comes to what is considered a computer crime. Can we show it at PLUG? I think Aaron would recommend just showing it :). I have contacted takepart to see if we can have a screening. ciao, der.hans On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:02 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, hadn't heard about this movie. I did hear an ad for a movie with Lessig in it today, but only heard his name, not the ad. Not sure if there's something else with him coming out. http://www.takepart.com/internets-own-boy [1] Tim Berners-Lee ... Himself Cory Doctorow ... Himself Peter Eckersley ... Himself Lawrence Lessig ... Himself http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3268458/?ref_=nm_knf_t3 [2] ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ [3] http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ [4] # Hope has two beautiful daughters: Anger and Courage. Anger at the way # things are, and Courage to struggle to create things as they should be. # -- St. Augustine --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [5] -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ [3] http://www.PhxLinux.org/ [6] # Keine Ahnung, was ich dir sagen soll, # keine Ahnung und keinen (.)plan. -- die Toten Hosen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [5] Links: -- [1] http://www.takepart.com/internets-own-boy [2] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3268458/?ref_=nm_knf_t3 [3] http://www.LuftHans.com/ [4] http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ [5] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [6] http://www.PhxLinux.org/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Cannot burn DVD but can burn CD's.
Hello, I have a Dell Inspiron 660 running Mint 17 KDE. I was trying to burn a DVD and cannot. I get a popup shortly after I insert the DVD which allows me to open the burner software, however is says something to the effect that the medium is not valid. I can burn CD's but not DVD's. A search of Google turns up a bunch of folks having the same issue with their Win boxes. Most of them said it was a driver issue. I can play a DVD movie. Any pointers much appreciated. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cannot burn DVD but can burn CD's.
I'm using K3b to burn the data disk. As it turns out their meter is wrong. They say the DVD should hold 4.7GB and if I look at the disk info they say the disk is 4.4GB. If I try to burn with more than 4.4GB of data it does not recognize the DVD. When I remove data and go below 4.4GB it recognized the DVD and will burn the data to the disc. Minor bug I would say. All is good now!! On 2014-09-24 08:52, Stephen Partington wrote: I have seen burning software get weird with an explicit choice in burning medium. so if you make it think CD and not DVD it will see a DVD and say media not valid. I have seen this in Windows and Linux software. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:53 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hello, I have a Dell Inspiron 660 running Mint 17 KDE. I was trying to burn a DVD and cannot. I get a popup shortly after I insert the DVD which allows me to open the burner software, however is says something to the effect that the medium is not valid. I can burn CD's but not DVD's. A search of Google turns up a bunch of folks having the same issue with their Win boxes. Most of them said it was a driver issue. I can play a DVD movie. Any pointers much appreciated. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Reducing image size
Hi, I have about 9GB of photos. These images are 2560 X 1920 and are roughly 2mb each. I assume I could get away with a much smaller image. What size should I reduce these to? During my research most suggest using ImageMagick from the command line. Is this the best practice? I'm sure I will want to use some type of script since I do not want to do this one by one. Thanks in advance for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cannot burn DVD but can burn CD's.
Interesting!! Thanks!! On 2014-09-24 13:42, Jon Kettenhofen wrote: There's no fault here. The difference between the 4.4 and the 4.7GB is overhead for the DVD format and index (directory) written when the data meaningful to you is written. If it were a straight, single track song or movie you might get more data but it's all in how and what you count as data. On 09/24/2014 01:40 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I'm using K3b to burn the data disk. As it turns out their meter is wrong. They say the DVD should hold 4.7GB and if I look at the disk info they say the disk is 4.4GB. If I try to burn with more than 4.4GB of data it does not recognize the DVD. When I remove data and go below 4.4GB it recognized the DVD and will burn the data to the disc. Minor bug I would say. All is good now!! On 2014-09-24 08:52, Stephen Partington wrote: I have seen burning software get weird with an explicit choice in burning medium. so if you make it think CD and not DVD it will see a DVD and say media not valid. I have seen this in Windows and Linux software. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:53 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hello, I have a Dell Inspiron 660 running Mint 17 KDE. I was trying to burn a DVD and cannot. I get a popup shortly after I insert the DVD which allows me to open the burner software, however is says something to the effect that the medium is not valid. I can burn CD's but not DVD's. A search of Google turns up a bunch of folks having the same issue with their Win boxes. Most of them said it was a driver issue. I can play a DVD movie. Any pointers much appreciated. Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Reducing image size
Thank you to everyone who responded!! On 2014-09-24 15:03, Stephen Partington wrote: I shoot raw and keep them at full resolution and then render out the correct size i need. The downside to changing the resolution is that you will lose detail and you will never get it back. so the first step is to play with the various resolutions and see which ones look best to you. This is a good discussion on this very concept. I would suggest you take a peek at it. http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/30243/what-quality-to-choose-when-converting-to-jpg [2] On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Mike Ballon mike.bal...@gmail.com wrote: You're image size really depends on how much size you want to save I guess, although also if you're willing to have some non-visible pixel lose you could convert them as well. You can start playing around with 2048x1536 or similar just keep in mind your aspect ratio. Here's the for loop I use for creating thumbnails, use as needed: for i in `find $LOCDIR -iname *hqw*` do echo $i TN=`echo $i | sed 's/hqw/tn/'` echo creating thumbmail for $i ... /usr/bin/convert -resize 200x200 $i -background none -gravity center $TN done On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:53 PM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I have about 9GB of photos. These images are 2560 X 1920 and are roughly 2mb each. I assume I could get away with a much smaller image. What size should I reduce these to? During my research most suggest using ImageMagick from the command line. Is this the best practice? I'm sure I will want to use some type of script since I do not want to do this one by one. Thanks in advance for your help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/30243/what-quality-to-choose-when-converting-to-jpg --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Having fun with KVM
On 2014-09-26 07:59, Michael Butash wrote: It wants *secure* efi booting likely, not sure windoze8 will boot without it in that capacity. I think not, but I've only ran it long enough to update the bios and wipe my laptop. Wouldn't surprise me if they key the backup to your laptop's efi data the trust is built on. I'd thought about doing this, as my laptop came with win8 pro, having to pay the dell micro$oft tax, figured it'd be worth restoring to a vm as at least a more modern visio hypervisor than xp. Then I looked up their licensing, and found it wouldn't really allow me to port it over as an oem version, which just reignited the vitriol toward them and their useless nature I still end up paying for. Thanks Dell. You're likely technically in the same boat, not sure they'd support you either. If you really need windoze, you get to pay again - yay! -mb On 09/25/2014 06:55 PM, Richard Wilson wrote: All, I recently got a new system that came with Win8.1 installed, which I saved following Microsoft's instructions to a 16GB recovery USB key and then I overwrote the system with Fedora 20. Just for grins, I've been trying to create a KVM from the USB key but the Virtual Machine Manager doesn't like what it finds and is complaining that it's not bootable. I do not want to risk booting off the key natively, but was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction. Are you saying the license will not allow you to run the win that came with your laptop in a VM? I bought a Dell laptop about 2 months ago and it came with Win7. I'd like to put win7 in a VM since the laptop is now running Mint 17 KDE. I need windows for IE for testing and one application that runs on windows only. The USB key shows up as /dev/sdc according to dmesg: [root@ajazus03 ~]# mount -o ro /dev/sdc1 /Win8 [root@ajazus03 ~]# ls /Win8 boot bootmgr.efi reagent.xml System Volume Information bootmgr efi sources I have tried telling the virtual machine manager to boot from /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1; I think it's looking for an ISO image. If anyone has some ideas as to how to make this work, I'd appreciate it. FWIW, I absolutely HATE Windows 8, but if I have a Windows VM I can hit a few of the sites I need that don't play well with Linux/Firefox, and since I have the license keys for this copy of Win 8, I thought I'd try it (I'd really prefer Win 7, but I'm not going to pay MS for a license for it!) Thanks in advance, Richard Wilson --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Bash is vulnerable!
Hi,
I'm running Mint 17 KDE on on workstation.
I ran the command:
env VAR='() { :;}; echo Bash is vulnerable!' bash -c echo Bash Test
and it returned
Bash is vulnerable!
Bash Test
So I did an apt-get update
which completed w/o issue.
Then I rebooted just in case
Ran the command again and received the same response:
Bash is vulnerable!
Bash Test
Any suggestions on how to fix this issue are much appreciated.
Thanks!
Keith
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upgrade bash
I guess I needed to do an upgrade. This command fixed the issue: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade bash Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Bash is vulnerable!
Thanks that explains it!!
On 2014-09-28 10:31, sean wrote:
Did you do apt-get upgrade? Update syncs with repos and doesn't
install anything.
On Sep 28, 2014 8:22 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm running Mint 17 KDE on on workstation.
I ran the command:
env VAR='() { :;}; echo Bash is vulnerable!' bash -c echo Bash
Test
and it returned
Bash is vulnerable!
Bash Test
So I did an apt-get update
which completed w/o issue.
Then I rebooted just in case
Ran the command again and received the same response:
Bash is vulnerable!
Bash Test
Any suggestions on how to fix this issue are much appreciated.
Thanks!
Keith
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CodeIgniter Has a New Home
Hi All, https://ellislab.com/blog/entry/your-favorite-php-framework-codeigniter-has-a-new-home Thoughts? Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Configuring a test box with multiple VM's
Hi, I'd like to configure a test box for LAMP development. What I have in mind is setting up multiple VM's on the box and loading a different distro in each VM. Probably only need 2 or 3 VMs. The number might grow over time. Will not be configuring X on any of the VM's - they will be LAMP servers only. I seem to recall someone saying I would need a base system on the box and then load the VM's on top of that. Or can I use something like Mint and load the VM's on top of that? Is there a disadvantage to doing it with Mint as the base system? The box is an i3 with visualization - http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz It has 4GB of RAM which I assume might not be enough. This box will only be used for testing so I assume each VM will only need 1GB of RAM and will probably use much less. Any direction is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: microsoft, IBM, and how to kill a big company....
Real missed opportunity. M$ could have made some cool stuff, and they did and we owe them for where we are at today. I just wish they would have made a leaner O/S and focused just on the O/S and dev tools. They seemed to understand how to make things intuitive and easy. I really like Visual Basic and Visual Basic for Applications. I only use Windows for testing with IE and one app that runs only on M$. They should have read the books Good to Great, Tribes, and Purple Cow. On 2014-10-09 11:18, Carruth, Rusty wrote: Very interesting read (well, ok, I read the first 2 'pages' only) about what happened to Microsoft. Written a few years back... http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-bal lmer --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Configuring a test box with multiple VM's
I provided the wrong specs here is the specs of the box I want to use i3-3220 with visualization http://ark.intel.com/products/65693/Intel-Core-i3-3220-Processor-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz 8GB RAM. Thank you for your help!! Keith On 2014-10-09 13:01, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to configure a test box for LAMP development. What I have in mind is setting up multiple VM's on the box and loading a different distro in each VM. Probably only need 2 or 3 VMs. The number might grow over time. Will not be configuring X on any of the VM's - they will be LAMP servers only. I seem to recall someone saying I would need a base system on the box and then load the VM's on top of that. Or can I use something like Mint and load the VM's on top of that? Is there a disadvantage to doing it with Mint as the base system? The box is an i3 with visualization - http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz It has 4GB of RAM which I assume might not be enough. This box will only be used for testing so I assume each VM will only need 1GB of RAM and will probably use much less. Any direction is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: memory
what CPU does that box have? On 2014-10-09 09:36, Mark Phillips wrote: Michael, It seems the max memory is 4GB for that system - 4 banks of 1 GB sticks. RAM memory Capacity - 4 GB Memory Type - DDR2 SDRAM - DIMM 240-pin Data Integrity Check - Non-ECC Speed - 667 MHz ( PC2-5300 ) Features - Dual rank , unbuffered You already have 2 1GB sticks in the machines - what speed are they? You should match the speed for all four sticks. The second set you mentioned are only 533 MHz, whereas your bus is 667 MHz. If your system is slow, get the fastest memory you can afford. Mark On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Carruth, Rusty ru...@smartm.com wrote: Yes, 1024 is one gig, but often some memory is stolen by the motherboard – for example if you have an on-board graphics card that uses main memory for its RAM. Personally, if you can afford it and the 4G is less than 2x the 2G I’d get 4G – but if you could find 2x2G sticks then you could have 6G total – not bad IMHO. FROM: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] ON BEHALF OF Michael Havens SENT: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:43 PM TO: PLUG SUBJECT: memory I know this is a stupid question but... I got a Dell dimension c521. It is slow so I figure I should add memory. There are 4 memory slots with 2 being used. How much memory is that? Well, the cards that are in there say it they are two cards with 1024 mb apiece. 'free -h' reports free -h total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1.9G 1.4G 489M 18M 59M 535M isn't 1024 one gig? Where is the rest? SHould I buy this? NEW 4GB 4X1GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHZ RAM MEMORY FOR DELL DIMENSION C521 [1] or should I get this? 2GB (2X1GB) RAM MEMORY CMS COMPATIBLE WITH DELL DIMENSION C521 DESKTOP [2] :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [3] Links: -- [1] http://www.amazon.com/4x1GB-PC2-5300-667MHz-Memory-Dimension/dp/B00KFND9SC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronicsamp;ie=UTF8amp;qid=1412798813amp;sr=1-1amp;keywords=dimension+c521+memory [2] http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-Dell-Dimension-C521-Desktop/dp/B00BL30RZS/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronicsamp;ie=UTF8amp;qid=1412798813amp;sr=1-3amp;keywords=dimension+c521+memory [3] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Configuring a test box with multiple VM's
Thanks!! I took a look at Proxmox. I'm looking for something free. You jogged my memory - I was told a while ago to use KVM. I took a quick look and it looks like I install KVM and configure each VM using it. It appears I would not need to install any other software to create VM's - very clean. Am I understanding that I can install the VM's using Virtualbox on top of Mint and see the same performance? Thanks for your help!! Keith On 2014-10-09 13:40, JD Austin wrote: Proxmox, your preferred Linux OS with Virtualbox, or using your preferred Linux OS's KVM/Qemu virtualization will all work about as well. Proxmox gives you a nice interface to manage it all; there are some 'free' VMWare versions you can use as well. -- JD Austin Voice: 480.269.4335 (480 2MY Geek) j...@twingeckos.com On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:12 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I provided the wrong specs here is the specs of the box I want to use i3-3220 with visualization http://ark.intel.com/products/65693/Intel-Core-i3-3220-Processor-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz [3] 8GB RAM. Thank you for your help!! Keith On 2014-10-09 13:01, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to configure a test box for LAMP development. What I have in mind is setting up multiple VM's on the box and loading a different distro in each VM. Probably only need 2 or 3 VMs. The number might grow over time. Will not be configuring X on any of the VM's - they will be LAMP servers only. I seem to recall someone saying I would need a base system on the box and then load the VM's on top of that. Or can I use something like Mint and load the VM's on top of that? Is there a disadvantage to doing it with Mint as the base system? The box is an i3 with visualization - http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [1] It has 4GB of RAM which I assume might not be enough. This box will only be used for testing so I assume each VM will only need 1GB of RAM and will probably use much less. Any direction is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] Links: -- [1] http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [2] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [3] http://ark.intel.com/products/65693/Intel-Core-i3-3220-Processor-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Configuring a test box with multiple VM's
Thanks!! On 2014-10-09 14:27, JD Austin wrote: Proxmox is free by the way; you don't have to do their subscriptions and having a nag telling you that you're not registered on login hasn't been a big deal for me :) -- JD Austin Voice: 480.269.4335 (480 2MY Geek) j...@twingeckos.com On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Sean Roe sean...@gmail.com wrote: Im going to have to go with JD. Proxmox is the best opensource VM solution period. Sean On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Proxmox, your preferred Linux OS with Virtualbox, or using your preferred Linux OS's KVM/Qemu virtualization will all work about as well. Proxmox gives you a nice interface to manage it all; there are some 'free' VMWare versions you can use as well. -- JD Austin Voice: 480.269.4335 [1] (480 2MY Geek) j...@twingeckos.com On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:12 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I provided the wrong specs here is the specs of the box I want to use i3-3220 with visualization http://ark.intel.com/products/65693/Intel-Core-i3-3220-Processor-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz [2] 8GB RAM. Thank you for your help!! Keith On 2014-10-09 13:01, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to configure a test box for LAMP development. What I have in mind is setting up multiple VM's on the box and loading a different distro in each VM. Probably only need 2 or 3 VMs. The number might grow over time. Will not be configuring X on any of the VM's - they will be LAMP servers only. I seem to recall someone saying I would need a base system on the box and then load the VM's on top of that. Or can I use something like Mint and load the VM's on top of that? Is there a disadvantage to doing it with Mint as the base system? The box is an i3 with visualization - http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [3] It has 4GB of RAM which I assume might not be enough. This box will only be used for testing so I assume each VM will only need 1GB of RAM and will probably use much less. Any direction is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [4] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [4] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [4] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [4] Links: -- [1] tel:480.269.4335 [2] http://ark.intel.com/products/65693/Intel-Core-i3-3220-Processor-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz [3] http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [4] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: memory
I did a search on CPU family 15 Model 79 Stepping 2 and this is what I found. http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Sempron%2064%203400%2B%20-%20SDA3400IAA3CN%20%28SDA3400CNBOX%29.html And here is the benchmark I found http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Sempron+3400%2B I would say at least in part the cause of your computer being slow is the CPU. I'd be interested to hear if more RAM makes a difference. Of course RAM might effect performance if you are doing something that requires a lot of RAM. I assume more RAM will effect compile speed. This is a testament to Linux breathing life into old iron. On 2014-10-09 14:03, Michael Havens wrote: bmike1@C521 ~ $ lscpu Architecture: x86_64 CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit Byte Order: Little Endian CPU(s): 1 On-line CPU(s) list: 0 Thread(s) per core: 1 Core(s) per socket: 1 Socket(s): 1 NUMA node(s): 1 Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD CPU family: 15 Model: 79 Stepping: 2 CPU MHz: 1000.000 BogoMIPS: 2004.24 Virtualization: AMD-V L1d cache: 64K L1i cache: 64K L2 cache: 512K NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0 :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: what CPU does that box have? On 2014-10-09 09:36, Mark Phillips wrote: Michael, It seems the max memory is 4GB for that system - 4 banks of 1 GB sticks. RAM memory Capacity - 4 GB Memory Type - DDR2 SDRAM - DIMM 240-pin Data Integrity Check - Non-ECC Speed - 667 MHz ( PC2-5300 ) Features - Dual rank , unbuffered You already have 2 1GB sticks in the machines - what speed are they? You should match the speed for all four sticks. The second set you mentioned are only 533 MHz, whereas your bus is 667 MHz. If your system is slow, get the fastest memory you can afford. Mark On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Carruth, Rusty ru...@smartm.com wrote: Yes, 1024 is one gig, but often some memory is stolen by the motherboard – for example if you have an on-board graphics card that uses main memory for its RAM. Personally, if you can afford it and the 4G is less than 2x the 2G I’d get 4G – but if you could find 2x2G sticks then you could have 6G total – not bad IMHO. FROM: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] ON BEHALF OF Michael Havens SENT: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:43 PM TO: PLUG SUBJECT: memory I know this is a stupid question but... I got a Dell dimension c521. It is slow so I figure I should add memory. There are 4 memory slots with 2 being used. How much memory is that? Well, the cards that are in there say it they are two cards with 1024 mb apiece. 'free -h' reports free -h total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1.9G 1.4G 489M 18M 59M 535M isn't 1024 one gig? Where is the rest? SHould I buy this? NEW 4GB 4X1GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHZ RAM MEMORY FOR DELL DIMENSION C521 [1] or should I get this? 2GB (2X1GB) RAM MEMORY CMS COMPATIBLE WITH DELL DIMENSION C521 DESKTOP [2] :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] [3] Links: -- [1] http://www.amazon.com/4x1GB-PC2-5300-667MHz-Memory-Dimension/dp/B00KFND9SC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronicsamp;ie=UTF8amp;qid=1412798813amp;sr=1-1amp;keywords=dimension+c521+memory [2] [2] http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-Dell-Dimension-C521-Desktop/dp/B00BL30RZS/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronicsamp;ie=UTF8amp;qid=1412798813amp;sr=1-3amp;keywords=dimension+c521+memory [3] [3] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [2] http://www.amazon.com/4x1GB-PC2-5300-667MHz-Memory-Dimension/dp/B00KFND9SC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronicsamp;amp;ie=UTF8amp;amp;qid=1412798813amp;amp;sr=1-1amp;amp;keywords=dimension+c521+memory [3] http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-Dell-Dimension-C521-Desktop/dp/B00BL30RZS/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronicsamp;amp;ie=UTF8amp;amp;qid=1412798813amp;amp;sr=1-3amp;amp;keywords=dimension+c521+memory --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe,
Re: Configuring a test box with multiple VM's
Thanks!! On 2014-10-09 14:23, Sean Roe wrote: Im going to have to go with JD. Proxmox is the best opensource VM solution period. Sean On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Proxmox, your preferred Linux OS with Virtualbox, or using your preferred Linux OS's KVM/Qemu virtualization will all work about as well. Proxmox gives you a nice interface to manage it all; there are some 'free' VMWare versions you can use as well. -- JD Austin Voice: 480.269.4335 [1] (480 2MY Geek) j...@twingeckos.com On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:12 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: I provided the wrong specs here is the specs of the box I want to use i3-3220 with visualization http://ark.intel.com/products/65693/Intel-Core-i3-3220-Processor-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz [2] 8GB RAM. Thank you for your help!! Keith On 2014-10-09 13:01, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to configure a test box for LAMP development. What I have in mind is setting up multiple VM's on the box and loading a different distro in each VM. Probably only need 2 or 3 VMs. The number might grow over time. Will not be configuring X on any of the VM's - they will be LAMP servers only. I seem to recall someone saying I would need a base system on the box and then load the VM's on top of that. Or can I use something like Mint and load the VM's on top of that? Is there a disadvantage to doing it with Mint as the base system? The box is an i3 with visualization - http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [3] It has 4GB of RAM which I assume might not be enough. This box will only be used for testing so I assume each VM will only need 1GB of RAM and will probably use much less. Any direction is much appreciated. Thanks!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [4] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [4] --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [4] Links: -- [1] tel:480.269.4335 [2] http://ark.intel.com/products/65693/Intel-Core-i3-3220-Processor-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz [3] http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz [4] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: memory
My question is what is the computer used for? Are you using it for your Linux from scratch project? If your just browsing the web and doing email, I wonder if more RAM will really make a difference. When you posted your memory usage I think you had more than 400MB free. I did a search and it appears you are running the AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (2.2 GHz) processor which by today's standards is not a very powerful CPU. That might be why things are slower than you might like. On 2014-10-09 11:41, Carruth, Rusty wrote: Michael – Wow, I’m glad Mark thought to check the max memory for the computer! (Thanks, Mark!) So, what Mark said. The only thing I’d add is to modify ‘get the fastest memory you can afford’ to something like ‘get as much memory as your computer can hold, as fast as possible’. There is a tradeoff here – if you have enough memory to keep your computer from swapping/paging/whatever-ing to and from disk then speed of ram matters. If, however, you don’t have enough memory to keep the majority of ‘active’ programs in memory so you don’t need to go read them from the disk before they can run – well, then faster is better for those things in memory, but as soon as the disk transfer gets slower than the execution speed your faster ram is useless. Or at least doesn’t help as much as it should. IMHO, of course ;-) FROM: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] ON BEHALF OF Mark Phillips SENT: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:36 AM TO: Main PLUG discussion list SUBJECT: Re: memory Michael, It seems the max memory is 4GB for that system - 4 banks of 1 GB sticks. RAM memory Capacity - 4 GB Memory Type - DDR2 SDRAM - DIMM 240-pin Data Integrity Check - Non-ECC Speed - 667 MHz ( PC2-5300 ) Features - Dual rank , unbuffered You already have 2 1GB sticks in the machines - what speed are they? You should match the speed for all four sticks. The second set you mentioned are only 533 MHz, whereas your bus is 667 MHz. If your system is slow, get the fastest memory you can afford. Mark On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Carruth, Rusty ru...@smartm.com wrote: Yes, 1024 is one gig, but often some memory is stolen by the motherboard – for example if you have an on-board graphics card that uses main memory for its RAM. Personally, if you can afford it and the 4G is less than 2x the 2G I’d get 4G – but if you could find 2x2G sticks then you could have 6G total – not bad IMHO. FROM: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] ON BEHALF OF Michael Havens SENT: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:43 PM TO: PLUG SUBJECT: memory I know this is a stupid question but... I got a Dell dimension c521. It is slow so I figure I should add memory. There are 4 memory slots with 2 being used. How much memory is that? Well, the cards that are in there say it they are two cards with 1024 mb apiece. 'free -h' reports free -h total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1.9G 1.4G 489M 18M 59M 535M isn't 1024 one gig? Where is the rest? SHould I buy this? NEW 4GB 4X1GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHZ RAM MEMORY FOR DELL DIMENSION C521 [1] or should I get this? 2GB (2X1GB) RAM MEMORY CMS COMPATIBLE WITH DELL DIMENSION C521 DESKTOP [2] :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [3] Links: -- [1] http://www.amazon.com/4x1GB-PC2-5300-667MHz-Memory-Dimension/dp/B00KFND9SC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronicsamp;ie=UTF8amp;qid=1412798813amp;sr=1-1amp;keywords=dimension+c521+memory [2] http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-Dell-Dimension-C521-Desktop/dp/B00BL30RZS/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronicsamp;ie=UTF8amp;qid=1412798813amp;sr=1-3amp;keywords=dimension+c521+memory [3] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
