Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins

2012-08-20 Thread vagskal

I tried to streamline my LMS set up by disabling Custom Scan startup 
rescan refresh and the automatic rescan (one issue was that new data
supposed to be scanned by Custom Scan such as album rating for newly
added albums did not show up, maybe Custom Scan which is really slow
never had a chance to finish between my nightly scans). But after a PC
reboot LMS web UI (but not the Custom Scan settings page) still reports
a Custom Scan running. Is that just some kind of display issue?

I seem to remember installing a beta version of Custom Scan, I have
v.3.0pre3832, that might be doing scans differently. How can I get the
latest stable version back? I could not see any other version in the
plugins page.

I have also downgraded to 7.7.2 release LMS version.

I still get long startup times although I have disabled TrackStat
startup  rescan refresh. The TrackStat version is 3.1.3829.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2012-08-20 Thread Owen Smith

pippin wrote: 
 Did you try the non-native menu? That should behave exactly the same
 as the controller.
 What does the Controller do, btw, when you do the ClearRescan? Does it
 back out to the main menu?

I haven't had time to try non native. Also it's been a while since I
used the Controller so I don't recall exactly what it does, but it was
better than what iPeng is doing.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2012-08-20 Thread 05mattjax

SrvrPowerCtrl - will my Netgear ReadyNas Duo support this plugin? Would
love to be able to turn off Nas remotely.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread nonnoroger

gharris999 wrote: 
 Truthfully, I never did take ReallyPreventStandby's code to a finished
 state.  The toggle feature was supposed to be a execute:first == inhibit
 sleep, execute:again == uninhibit.  But I don't recall if I really
 fleshed that feature out or not.  I'd have to review the code and,
 frankly, I don't even have a copy of ReallyPreventStandby currently
 installed on any of my LMS boxes.
 
I have now had time to look at your ReallyPreventStandby plugin again
Gordon. I am running it with caffeinate -i as the prevent idle command
and pkill caffeinate as the allow caffeinate command  with these set as
toggles. Contrary to what you remembered, the toggle setting means
that the commands only need to be called once which is what we need in
this case. It is when the toggle setting is not made that we end up with
multiple invocations of caffeinate. I have only tested so far the case
of preventing standby when any player is powered on - as set in the
settings for the plugin.

(As an aside, I am using caffeinate as the current official command, not
because I think the problems we have had are due to your own sleep
inhibit command which also uses power assertions. If I was to get to
production use with this I would copy the binary and invoke it under a
different name.)

Debugging the plugin and analyzing the code convinced me that in this
case at least, the call of _killInhibitCmd() in the plugin's
_hasResumed() is inappropriate, at least with these settings. It was
having the effect of killing the caffeinate that had been started on
resume - by a Touch sending its WOL to the server.

I have now deleted that call and have found the operation to be much
improved. However, occasionally the Mac Mini still goes back to sleep
before the plugin has had a chance to make that call of caffeinate.

If a Mountain Lion system is woken by an interactive user, say at the
keyboard, it will stay awake until the idle timer expires - in my case
10 minutes. If it is woken by WOL it ignores the idle timer and goes
back to sleep more or less straight away - unless the appropriate power
management assertion is made in time.

ReallyPreventStandby depends on polling the state of the system at 60
second intervals. If it has resumed, if players are busy, or if the
server is scanning for import it calls the prevent standby command - in
the case of my settings this is caffeinate -i. It seems that ML will
sometimes be sent back to sleep before that call of caffeinate, in a
separate process, has had time to set the assertion.

The following comments are copied from my latest post at
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8141 as I still believe that
this as an issue for the LMS developers to consider. If you agree,
please vote for the bug.

My firm view is that the source of caffeinate I found, and other
examples since, should only be used as an example of the code that needs
to be used withing LMS itself. iTunes does this, as can be seen by
running pmset -g when it is playing and not playing. Ideally we should
avoid the need for polling and take the appropriate action whenever
sleep needs to be prevented or can be allowed again. (There might need
to be a grace period though before allowing it again as offered now by
ReallyPreventStandby - especially if the Mac is allowed to sleep while
players are left on.)

If hooks could be provided for this within LMS, platform-specific code
could then be called. (It might be that some third-party plugins or Apps
may themselves need to invoke these - I am thinking of Triode's Spotify
and BBC Player for example but again, if sleep was prevented as long as
any SB was on this should not be necessary.) I am hoping that the code
called via the hooks could be implemented in OSX via the PerlObjectiveC
bridge.

I will carry on looking at ReallyPreventStandby but I am now more or
less convinced that in the case of Mountain Lion we will have to set the
assertions and release them within LMS itself and not by invoking new
processes to run other commands.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread nonnoroger

nonnoroger wrote: 
 Debugging the plugin and analyzing the code convinced me that in this
 case at least, the call of _killInhibitCmd() in the plugin's
 _hasResumed() is inappropriate, at least with these settings. It was
 having the effect of killing the caffeinate that had been started on
 resume - by a Touch sending its WOL to the server.
 
 I have now deleted that call and have found the operation to be much
 improved. However, occasionally the Mac Mini still goes back to sleep
 before the plugin has had a chance to make that call of caffeinate.
 ReallyPreventStandby but I am now more or less convinced that in the
 case of Mountain Lion we will have to set the assertions and release
 them within LMS itself and not by invoking new processes to run other
 commands.

After the fix to ReallyPreventStandby I have let my system sleep after
the grace period set in the plugin settings (I have it at three
minutes), woken it again from a Touch and started playing a total of 10
times now.

Out of 10 I found it did not honour the grace period once (going back to
sleep as soon as I turned off the touch). So far it has not gone back to
sleep while playing - although it did this once before my last post.

So my fix to ReallyPreventStandby has very much improved things.

Is anyone else prepared to try the fix and give us your experience?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-08-20 Thread danny041

Thanks again for the help. I managed to figure out what it was with your
guidance, and posting it here if anyone runs into the same kind of
problem.

A couple of days ago I installed a ftp-server called CrushFTP. The
server automatically runs on port 8080 and 9090. The error messages have
been solely due to this conflict between CLI (Command line interface)
and the FTP-server. Once I killed the FTP, everything is back to normal
again and works as a charm. 


A bit irritating though that the error messages displayed are so
inconsistent in the squeezebox UI. Makes it hard to target the error. 


Anyway: Thanks for a great plugin. I don't think I have listened to a
local mp3-file in almost two years due to this!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins

2012-08-20 Thread erland

vagskal wrote: 
 I tried to streamline my LMS set up by disabling Custom Scan startup 
 rescan refresh and the automatic rescan (one issue was that new data
 supposed to be scanned by Custom Scan such as album rating for newly
 added albums did not show up, maybe Custom Scan which is really slow
 never had a chance to finish between my nightly scans). But after a PC
 reboot LMS web UI (but not the Custom Scan settings page) still reports
 a Custom Scan running. Is that just some kind of display issue?
 
Feels a bit strange, do you have automatic scanning for new/changed
files enabled in LMS ?
If that's the case, it could be that LMS finds a new/updated track at
restart and triggers a Custom Scan, I've seen this occurred when their
are playlist files in music folder:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17274

I'm not sure when the scanning status is cleared, it could be that it
isn't cleared automatically if a scanning has been aborted in a bad
way.
Another user had similar issues with SMD plugin and then the solution
was to install Database Query plugin and create a Free form query with
the following SQL:

Code:

delete from progress


And execute this query and then restart LMS.


vagskal wrote: 
 
 I seem to remember installing a beta version of Custom Scan, I have
 v.3.0pre3832, that might be doing scans differently. How can I get the
 latest stable version back? I could not see any other version in the
 plugins page.
 
1. Make sure the alpha repository is NOT in the repository list in LMS
Settings/Plugins:
http://erlandplugins.googlecode.com/svn/repository/trunk/alpha.xml
2. Uninstall Custom Scan and reboot the server
3. Reinstall Custom Scan (this should now install the stable version)

vagskal wrote: 
 
 I still get long startup times although I have disabled TrackStat
 startup  rescan refresh. The TrackStat version is 3.1.3829.
 
Can you enable debug level logging of plugin.customscan and
plugin.trackstat and post the server.log after the server is
accessible after a restart, this should show if the refresh operations
are executed and also how long time each part of it takes. Theoretically
it could also be Custom Browse that's causing the delays but the
intention is that this should only happen after a new version of Custom
Browse is installed as it then have to re-parse all configuration files.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread danco

So, is this a simple change that we can make for ourselves, or does it
require a modified plugin? If the latter, can you post your
modification.

I would be prepared to try it, though my own solution seems to be
working for me at the moment.

I have had no problems with WOL. Maybe my answer is not subject to the
problem you report. But more likely that issue depends on the model of
Mac that one has. I am using a 2007 iMac.

I do agree that the best solution is for LMS to deal with the issue in
its own code, but I don't see that we will have to set the assertions
within LMS itself, when ReallyPreventStandby works, rather that it would
be *much* neater.

The one advantage of my approach is that it does provide a
double-clickable way of preventing sleep, whatever else is going on.
That is something I find useful. For instance, at the moment I m
expecting an instant message from a friend so like to have my Mac awake
with display awake, so as to make it easy to check if there is a
message. Power assertions would not be the way to go with
Messages/iChat, since most of the time one does not need to keep the
machine awake, it is just a personal preference. Another case where
power assertions wouldn't work is VisualHub, which still works fine but
is not being developed further, so we are stuck with it as it is.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Need help to test Custom Scan with support for new/changed scanning

2012-08-20 Thread erland

PasTim wrote: 
 Hi Erland - 
 
 is there likely to be any progress with version 3?  It'd be really nice
 to have fast scans for minor changes/additions if possible.
 
I still hope to get some time to finish it, especially as I want it
myself, it's just that I've had some trouble to find time for it during
last months due to some other music related development activities which
I at the moment have to give higher priority, due to this I don't expect
much progress during next 2-3 months. However, if you still haven't seen
any progress in a few months please feel free to push/remind me about it
again.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Why is BBC iPlayer plugin not on Squeezebox Plugins page?

2012-08-20 Thread DaveRado

Triode wrote: 
 Please add it to the wiki - I am afraid I am considering 7.3 and later
 and so only really thinking of Extension Downloader.

Hi Triode

Your app is wonderful. However I have a support issue but don't know
where to post it. I doubt this thread is the right place, but could you
give me a link to somewhere I can post my query?

Dave



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins

2012-08-20 Thread PasTim

Out of curiosity I tried to download Squeeze Display from Google Play
Store to my Android phone (running 2.3). However, try as I might it
doesn't appear in the store when searching on my phone.  Is there some
regional or technical limitation (e.g. for larger screen tablets only)?

I'm sure I can download it to my PC and install to my phone from there,
but I've not had to do that before with any other applications.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2012-08-20 Thread Triode

New version of BBCiPlayer which removes livetext from live streams (as
it has been withdrawn by the BBC) and experimental support of the new
RadioVis based text and slideshow replacement.  Note this only works for
Radio 1 and 1Xtra at present as this is all that is supported on the BBC
server.

Please post feedback here..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread nonnoroger

danco wrote: 
 So, is this a simple change that we can make for ourselves, or does it
 require a modified plugin? If the latter, can you post your
 modification.
 
It is a simple change to the plugin that you can make for yourself once
it is installed. See next post for the modification. But let me clarify
once again. ReallyPreventStandby still relies on polling every 60
seconds. There is an almost inevitable race condition that depends on
the precise timing of asynchronous events that leads in my testing to
the Mac occasionally going back to sleep after WOL before caffeinate has
set the power assertion. For similar reasons, it sometimes goes back to
sleep too early - ignoring the set grace period in the settings of
Really PreventStandby. I asked if others wanted to try it nevertheless
so we could get an idea of just how often this happens in practice.

danco wrote: 
 I have had no problems with WOL. Maybe my answer is not subject to the
 problem you report. But more likely that issue depends on the model of
 Mac that one has. I am using a 2007 iMac. Those of us who have more than
 one Mac (maybe even iPad/iPhone) could try WOL independent of
 Squeezeboxes.
Sorry but again I seem to have failed to help you understand my point.
It is not an issue with WOL in general but with WOL from a Squeezebox
when ReallyPreventStandby is polling every 60 seconds. Hopefully, other
applications that use WOL will do what is necessary themselves. The
nature of the race condition will no doubt change depending on how many
cores the processor has. I run LMS on a late 2009 Mac Mini.

danco wrote: 
 
 I do agree that the best solution is for LMS to deal with the issue in
 its own code, but I don't see that we will have to set the assertions
 within LMS itself, when ReallyPreventStandby works, rather that it would
 be *much* neater.
It is not just a question of neatness. It is only with LMS creating and
releasing its own power assertions that we will be able to reliably
avoid the race conditions explained above.

danco wrote: 
 The one advantage of my approach is that it does provide a
 double-clickable way of preventing sleep, whatever else is going on.
 That is something I find useful. For instance, at the moment I m
 expecting an instant message from a friend so like to have my Mac awake
 with display awake, so as to make it easy to check if there is a
 message. Power assertions would not be the way to go with
 Messages/iChat, since most of the time one does not need to keep the
 machine awake, it is just a personal preference. Another case where
 power assertions wouldn't work is VisualHub, which still works fine but
 is not being developed further, so we are stuck with it as it is.
Of course, I too would like Caffeine or something like it to work
reliably again (I have had no response from the developers). But that is
a different solution to a different problem



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread nonnoroger

If you would like to try this out please follow these steps (first three
probably already done):

1. In the settings web page go to the Plugins tab. (I usually start the
web page with the Advanced Settings button in the LMS system preferences
pane)

2. Under additional repositories at the bottom add
http://srvrpowerctrl.googlecode.com/svn/beta.xml
This is the link to Gordon's plugins. I am sure he would want me to
remind you that this is still Beta code.

3. Apply the changes and then select ReallyPreventStandby from the list
of Gordon's plugins. Apply again.

4. In the Plugins tab again, go to the Settings for
ReallyPreventStandby. To reproduce my configuration choose:

Allow standby after how many idle minutes? 3
Prohibit standby if players are on? Checked
Inhibit standby command: caffeinate -i
Re-enable standby command: pkill caffeinate
Inhibit is a toggle command: Checked

Then Apply the changes

5. Stop the LMS server from the preferences pane.

6. Go to /Users/USER/Library/Caches/Squeezebox/InstalledPlugins/Plugins
where USER is replaced with your login name.
To do this in the Finder you will need to hold down Alt while selecting
the Go menu.

7. Edit Plugin.pm - TextEdit should do. Note Gordon's Copyright Notice.
Find the definition of the subroutine _hasResumed. Comment out the
entire line _killInhibitCmd(); by putting a # in front (alt 3 on my
keyboard).
I suggest you also add a comment line explaining why.

8. Exit TextEdit, saving explicitly first if you want to. Under Mountain
Lion, TextEdit will already have saved the version at Open so you can
restore that.

9. Make sure all your SBs are off (not with power disconnected but with
the off button pressed, Radio, or selected Touch, which are the only
models I have (Four Touches). Restart LMS from the preferences pane.

10. Optional, but I suggest you do this during testing: Under the
Advanced Tab in the LMS Settings Web page, select the Advanced tab,
Logging, and set ReallyPreventStandby to Debug. Apply.

11. Let your Mac go to sleep by reaching its configured idle period
(Mine is set to 10 minutes). Hands off keyboard and mouse. We want to
see what happens when you turn on an SB.

12. Start some music playing on your SB from My Music.

13. See if the Mac stays out of standby - for at least a couple of
minutes or more. It should stay out of standby as long as at least one
SB is on.

14. Pause or stop playing and turn off all SBs as before. See if the Mac
stays active for the grace period (3 minutes in the settings above).

15. Once the Mac has gone back to sleep, go back and repeat fro step 12
a few times. We want to know how reliable you find ReallyPreventStandby
with these settings and my change.
Keep Hands off keyboard and mouse. 

16. After several cycles, go back to your mac screen/keyboard and take a
look at the LMS Server log in Console - if you set debugging above.

Please let us know how you get on

Many thanks

NonnoRoger



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread danco

nonnoroger wrote: 
 It is a simple change to the plugin that you can make for yourself once
 it is installed. See next post for the modification. But let me clarify
 once again. ReallyPreventStandby still relies on polling every 60
 seconds. There is an almost inevitable race condition that depends on
 the precise timing of asynchronous events that leads in my testing to
 the Mac occasionally going back to sleep after WOL before caffeinate has
 set the power assertion. For similar reasons, it sometimes goes back to
 sleep too early - ignoring the set grace period in the settings of
 Really PreventStandby. I asked if others wanted to try it nevertheless
 so we could get an idea of just how often this happens in practice.
 
 
 Sorry but again I seem to have failed to help you understand my point.
 It is not an issue with WOL in general but with WOL from a Squeezebox
 when ReallyPreventStandby is polling every 60 seconds. Hopefully, other
 applications that use WOL will do what is necessary themselves. The
 nature of the race condition will no doubt change depending on how many
 cores the processor has. I run LMS on a late 2009 Mac Mini.
 
 
 It is not just a question of neatness. It is only with LMS creating and
 releasing its own power assertions that we will be able to reliably
 avoid the race conditions explained above.
 
 
 Of course, I too would like Caffeine or something like it to work
 reliably again (I have had no response from the developers). But that is
 a different solution to a different problem

I felt some of your earlier posts implied that you did not like the idea
of Caffeine. It seems I was wrong. I have also written to the developer
with no reply as yet.

I understand about the possibility of a race. What I do not understand
is why, after WOL has woken up a Mac, it would ever go to sleep before
the idle period as set in Energy Saver. If it stayed awake that long,
RPS would always win the race. That's why I was suggesting trying what
happens with WOL in other situations. I note that a Google search does
reveal some issues with WOL, for instance
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3735289?start=0tstart=0.

When I have a bit of time, I'll follow your instructions on reworking
RPS, much neater than mine.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread nonnoroger

danco wrote: 
 ... What I do not understand is why, after WOL has woken up a Mac, it
 would ever go to sleep before the idle period as set in Energy Saver.
But that is not what happens with Mountain Lion. As I have explained in
several posts.  The idle period is only applied after interactive use.
Once that has expired a WOL does not keep ML awake foranother idle
period. This is why we are trying to find a solution.

As I have also said before I think Apple have it right with ML. It is
now up to developers to use the tools properly, (And I do know about
legacy programs which will not be fixed but caffeinate and a
corresponding GUI will provide a solution for that.) Caffeinate is fine
for interactive use when the Mac is already awake, directly, or
indirectly from scripts, but to call after WOL will give us race
conditions in my view.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread danco

Couple of thoughts on your solution.

The -i switch should not be necessary, as the default is to prevent idle
sleep.

For debugging purposes, caffeinate -di might be good. That prevents both
display sleep and idle sleep, which makes checking easier in step 14.

I've made your changes, but currently do not have time to check the
result.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins

2012-08-20 Thread Wirrunna

Erland, in your wiki under Trackstat / Music IP Integration, there is
Export of ratings, play counts and played time for all tracks in
SqueezeCenter.  and  The import/export functionality is found under
the Custom Scan menu inside SqueezeCenter Settings in the web interface.

Is there any documentation available without installing the Custom Scan
plugin ? 
I cannot find any mention of Music IP Integration in the entry in your
wiki for Custom Scan.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl

2012-08-20 Thread gharris999

05mattjax wrote: 
 SrvrPowerCtrl - will my Netgear ReadyNas Duo support this plugin? Would
 love to be able to turn off Nas remotely.Maybe.  I gave my ReadyNAS 600 to my 
 nephew a few years ago so I can't
walk you through the steps.  But at the very least, I think you'll need
to get root  ssh access to your ReadyNAS and then experiment to figure
out what system commands will successfully suspend/hibernate the system.
You should be able to get some advice from folks over on the ReadyNAS
forum: http://www.readynas.com/forum/.  If you'll be ssh-ing into your
NAS from a windows client, then PuTTY is the ssh client terminal app of
choice.  WinSCP will be a useful tool too.

Anyway, once you've figured that much out, you'll need to identify which
user account the squeezeboxserver process runs under:

# ps aux | grep 'squeeze'

..and having identified the account, you need to modify the /etc/sudoers
file to grant that account passwordless permissions to run those
suspend/hibernate commands.

That's it, in a nutshell.  If you've never had any experience bashing
away at a debian system (which I think is the underlying OS of the
ReadyNAS) from a command line, you'll be in for a very 'reto'
experience.

Good luck, and please post your recipe, if you cobble together one that
works.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues

2012-08-20 Thread jdwek

I am not at all a computer person so I doubt if this will help.  I did
happen to notice this on a different forum and wondered if it might be
useful.  It is a caffeinate command that targets the specific program
SABnzbd specifically.  Could not we do the same thing with LMS?

caffeinate -i /Applications/SABnzbd.app/Contents/MacOS/SABnzbd 



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