Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
bpa;474960 Wrote: Since the BBC has announced they will be stopping RealAudio streams by 30 March 2010 (with the exception of World Service) - BBCiPlayer is the preferred plugin for users of BBC and as such AlienBBC has been removed from Plugin main list. Why do you need the RealAudio streams when there are equally good WMA streams which need no transcoding. Will iPlayer work on a DS-207 with SSODS 3.15, SlimServer 6.54 and AlienBBC 1.06? My DS-207 does not have enough memory to run a later version of SqueezeCentre. Gerard Lardner -- GerardLardner GerardLardner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11817 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
QNAP users only - If BBCiPlayer Listen Again doesn't work but you can play the station http:///www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls then try the replacement RTMP.pm replacement file in this post. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=483508postcount=53 -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Chaps - I am loving your work :-) Would it be possible to get the plugin to scrobble to last.fm? At the moment nothing shows there, but the station info would be great, but the track info would be fab! Ta. -- thurstongarden Thurston Garden SB2 - Duet Controller - SB Radio - Cyrus Two PSX (off Freecycle!) - Mission 773's thurstongarden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20903 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
MunichMelly;477443 Wrote: Only very few of my iplayer items will play. The ones which play seem to have a URL displayed (e.g.Listen Live - BBC Radio 1Xtra). The majority of items only have a picture and a description but no URL, and do not play (e.g. Listen Live - BBC Radio 1, or any of the historical items). bpa;477539 Wrote: I'm at a loss. AAC support on Linux was not standard in 7.3.2 so something has been added to your system which is non standard but enabled AAC support. SSOTS is a special build of SC with a lots of things added and changed to suit the QNAP systems. To stream BBC in AAC you need a special version of faad and I don't think your setup has it - even if you move to 7.3.3 I could still not be sure about what changes SSOTS has made. Triode;477908 Wrote: I believe it needs to be 7.3.3 to have support for AAC radio streaming. I would upgrade this server before using it to test iplayer. Ideally you upgrade it to 7.4.1, but 7.3.3 should work. MunichMelly;477990 Wrote: After upgrading to 7.3.3 on the vista machine iPlayer now seems to work. Thanks. Unfortunately the same thing did not work on the QNAP, where I still have missing URL's for programmes which now work on the vista installation. There seems to be many people still having the same problems i.e. BBCiPlayer not playing listen-again streams on a QNAP (e.g. see http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=123t=20869#p91145 ) but I can't actually find any bug reports or any signs of anyone working on a solution. I understood from the above, that the necessary version of faad is included in Squeezecenter from version 7.3.3 but this doesn't seem to help on a QNAP installation. Questions: ~~ Is this an issue with the Linux version of SqueezeCenter, or is it a specific problem with SSOTS? How can we help to find out? How can users with this problem best raise or support a bug report to get this issue fixed? Thanks in advance, and sorry if this post is out of sequence. -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 62) Squeezecenter v7.3.3 on QNAP 209 pro (SSOTS v3.15) or Vista laptop BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) - laptop o.k., but most streams don't play on QNAP BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
There seems to be many people still having the same problems i.e. BBCiPlayer not playing listen-again streams on a QNAP (e.g. see http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?...t=20869#p91145 ) but I can't actually find any bug report Please do not lump problems together just because they have the same symptoms. This can result in multiple conversations happening in the same thread which can be confusing. Each user's problem should be worked through until the problem is understood. This may not be the same problem - QNAP problem is a bug in the perl ported to QNAP. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Sorry don't understand how to change the directory!? Have loaded squeezecenter 7.4 on my laptop (with vista) and it works (Iplayer installs), except most BBC programmes won't play... -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
When you have a command prompt window open (it usually has white text on a black background). At the prompt type in the following and press return/enter. cd \Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread The above assume an English Windows installation and Squeezecenter install. Since you changed to 7.4 - I don't know off hand where faad.exe ios located. It is not good to keep changing different things when trying to solve a problem. You will need to find faad.exe yourself. Then type in the following and press return/enter. dir Check that there is a faad.exe and a flac.exe in the lines displayed. If there is then type in the following and press return/enter. faad Please post back describing what text you see. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I haven't changed anything, I put 7.4 on my laptop but this is to do with my PC :-) This is what I got after typing 'faad': C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-threadfaad *** Ahead Software MPEG-4 AAC Decoder V2.7 ** Patched for SqueezeCenter http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10602 Build: Mar 18 2009 Copyright 2002-2004: Ahead Software AG http://www.audiocoding.com Floating point version This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License. ** Usage: faad [options] infile.aac Options: -hShows this help screen. -iShows info about the input file. -a X Write MPEG-4 AAC ADTS output file. -tAssume old ADTS format. -o X Set output filename. -f X Set output format. Valid values for X are: 1: Microsoft WAV format (default). 2: RAW PCM data. -b X Set output sample format. Valid values for X are: 1: 16 bit PCM data (default). 2: 24 bit PCM data. 3: 32 bit PCM data. 4: 32 bit floating point data. 5: 64 bit floating point data. -s X Force the samplerate to X (for RAW files). -l X Set object type. Supported object types: 1: Main object type. 2: LC (Low Complexity) object type. 4: LTP (Long Term Prediction) object type. 23: LD (Low Delay) object type. -dDown matrix 5.1 to 2 channels -wWrite output to stdio instead of a file. -gDisable gapless decoding. -qQuiet - suppresses status messages. Example: faad infile.aac faad infile.mp4 faad -o outfile.wav infile.aac faad -w infile.aac outfile.wav faad -a outfile.aac infile.aac C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
That shows faad.exe is OK. It looks like your problem is not caused by the usual sources. Since the illstreet48.pls also fails - it indicates the problem is in the SC transcoding which involves faad.exe but it is not clear why it is failing. So it is necessary to get some more detailed log messages to see what is happening when trying to play. Can you do the following. 1. WebUI Settings/Advanced/Logging set player.source to DEBUG and click Apply. 2. Using WebUI Tune-in - try to play http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls 3. Wait 1 minute after clicking play 4. Open the server.log window see WebUI Settings/Information bottom of page. 5. Copy into a text file (use Notepad) all log messages from time of Play to last message. 6. Zip the file and attach to a post. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
bpa;480500 Wrote: Are in the UK or not ? Only AAC will work if you are outside of the UK. Can you play this stream on your system - it will test AAC playback. http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls Bryan - I'm only getting snatches of this - with constant re-buffering. Could be my connection to the US isn't too good - but it does play for a few seconds which is more than iPlayer does! Yes I'm in the UK in sunny Hertfordshire. -- alexandali Regards Alex QNAP TS-209 ProII SSOTS Release 4.1-7.4.0 (31st Oct 09) SqueezeServer Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 (31st Oct 09) Wi-Fi connection via Netgear GS108T/Thompson TG585V7/NetgearWG602 Squeezebox Duet - optical feed to Audiolab 8000DAC/Pre/Power Squeezebox Boom Softsqueeze 3.8 alexandali's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18872 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
A lot of QNAP users are having this problem. It feels like the processor is overloaded and cannot decode and re-encode the stream in realtime. To lighten the processing load but this will increase network traffic - try disabling the encoding of AAC into Flac. So in WebUI Settings/Advanced/FileTypes disable AAC-MP3 and AAC-Flac and then see if the stream plays. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
bpa;480571 Wrote: A lot of QNAP users are having this problem. It feels like the processor is overloaded and cannot decode and re-encode the stream in realtime. To lighten the processing load but this will increase network traffic - try disabling the encoding of AAC into Flac. So in WebUI Settings/Advanced/FileTypes disable AAC-MP3 and AAC-Flac and then see if the stream plays. Bryan - no change at all in behaviour with AAC to flac/MP3 disabled. -- alexandali Regards Alex QNAP TS-209 ProII SSOTS Release 4.1-7.4.0 (31st Oct 09) SqueezeServer Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 (31st Oct 09) Wi-Fi connection via Netgear GS108T/Thompson TG585V7/NetgearWG602 Squeezebox Duet - optical feed to Audiolab 8000DAC/Pre/Power Squeezebox Boom Softsqueeze 3.8 alexandali's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18872 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
[BPA, taking your informormation regarding our Qnap devices i've ordered a Sheevaplug to use as a server. it's quite a powerful device and with a lot of reading /trial and error i hope this will improve my Squeeze performance,which is rather limping along at the moment!. dennis http://www.newit.co.uk/ QUOTE=bpa;480571]A lot of QNAP users are having this problem. It feels like the processor is overloaded and cannot decode and re-encode the stream in realtime. To lighten the processing load but this will increase network traffic - try disabling the encoding of AAC into Flac. So in WebUI Settings/Advanced/FileTypes disable AAC-MP3 and AAC-Flac and then see if the stream plays. -- dennis55 Slim Devices/Logitech Transporter Bonnec Audiosysteme Timpano Linn Products Akurate C4200 Totem Acoustics Forest SqueezeBox Radio Duet Controller Linn LP12/Cirkus/Ekos2/Dynavector DV17D2/Linn Linto/Linn Lingo1 last.fm/dennis55 dennis55's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8884 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I believe a QNAP should be able to play AAC streams provided 1. The faad is built using the fixed point option 2. the AAC streams are played as PCM and not transcoded into MP3 or FLAC I believe The Sheevaplug processor has no floating point which will mean that any transcoding into MP3 or Flac could be a significant load and may not deliver the performance you expect (e.g. may be able to handle one player but not multiple) faad, flac and lame should be benchmarked to see whether they can do encoding/decoding in realtime. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Hi Triode. Can I ask for yuur help as you seem to be the expert on this? I posted this earlier: -Firstly, my apologies if this is covered eésewhere, but I am not that technical and am getting a bit confused... I live outside the UK (Switzerland) and have rcently downloaded Squeezecenter 7.4 to work with my squeezebox. I love listening again to BBC radio programmes, and I soon realised AlienBBC would not work, so got rid of it and have tried the Iplayer plugin instead. However when I have tried to apply the plugin, I keep getting the message in the plugins list that 'Iplayer is incompatible with this version of Squeezecenter - Please update' This is difficult as I can't find any other versions of Iplayer - or is it asking mt to update Squeezecenter which I can't as I have the latest version. Hope this makes sense, would appreciate any simple technical explanations as to what i can do!! :-) Simon Fathers - I really can't follow a lot of the threads on this forum as they often use terms I don't understand. All I use my squeezebox for is accessing my mp3s and listen again via Alien BBC (as was) but now I can't find listen agin and Iplayer plugin doesn't seem to be working at all. Have gone back to version 7.3.3 in attempt to get it to work but no joy as yet! Very frustrated - I'm a music fan who just wants to use his piece of kit but I am not a techie!! would appreciate any help. Simon -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Outside of the UK, you need to have AAC support working on your Squeezecentre in order to play BBC Listen Again. Please try the following stream as it will test AAC support separate from BBCiPlayer plugin Http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Thanks for that, this does play in my VLC player, how does this relate to Squeezebox? Do I save it and then see if I can access it from Squeezebox? Sorry for all the questions. -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Does it play on your Squeezebox player ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I can't find it even though I saved in my music folder. where should i save it so that I can test it out? The link you sent me downloaded only a 1KB .pls file (whatever that is?) Simon -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Paste into the Tune-In box in the WebUI and press play. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Looks like it's playing on the web thing, but still saying 'connecting' on my squeezebox... oh now it's says it's playing on the squeezebox but it's frozen at 0.00... -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
This worked straightaway! :-) So what do I need to do now? -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
PS sorry didn't notice those questions before...! :-) -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Are you using bit rate limiting to your player ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
bpa;480728 Wrote: Are you using bit rate limiting to your player ? Not knowingly - is there a setting I can check? -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
For bit stream limiting check WebUI Settings/Player/Audio Another possibility - is this a very clean XP system with no additional MS apps installed ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
bpa;480764 Wrote: For bit stream limiting check WebUI Settings/Player/Audio Another possibility - is this a very clean XP system with no additional MS apps installed ? It says under Audio 'you do not appear to have LAME installed`- do I need this? It sounds vaguely familiar from when I had squeezecenter on an old PC I have a fair amount of stuff installed on the PC - is there anything that could affect perfomance of SC? S -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Lame is only needed for bit rate limiting - which means it is probably OK. Specifically do you have any of MS Office installed - Word, Excel, Powerpoint ? If so what version. I think a library may be missing. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Yes have all those - Microsoft Office XP. Where do I look for libraries? Would ever have guessed that. PS thanks for all your help! -- jackleaves jackleaves's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Please try to run the program faad.exe (it decode AAC) to see if libraries are the problem. 1. Open a Command prompt windows (XP Start/Accessories/Command Prompt 2. Change directory to the directory which has faad.exe. On English Windows it is in C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 3. run faad.exe and you should get a version message. ANything else is a problem. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I've just upgraded my SSOTS and SC to the latest versions as below- iPlayer was working just fine before on SSOTS 3.15 and SC7.3 Getting the same symptoms - no sound on any feed from iPlayer although the Duet display shows all the right things. No sound on my Boom or squeezeplay either. Everything else works fine now. There seem to be several other people over on the QNAP forum with this very same problem I think. I've tried all the AAC/MP3/WMA settings to no avail.I'm in the UK. Any ideas or anything I can do to diagnose the problem?? Have attached a log with iplayer settings to debug. +---+ |Filename: log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8600| +---+ -- alexandali Regards Alex QNAP TS-209 ProII SSOTS Release 4.1-7.4.0 (31st Oct 09) SqueezeServer Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 (31st Oct 09) Wi-Fi connection via Netgear GS108T/Thompson TG585V7/NetgearWG602 Squeezebox Duet - optical feed to Audiolab 8000DAC/Pre/Power Squeezebox Boom Softsqueeze 3.8 alexandali's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18872 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Are in the UK or not ? Only AAC will work if you are outside of the UK. Can you play this stream on your system - it will test AAC playback. http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Triode;470508 Wrote: With the advent of 7.4 and the changes to BBC stream availablity we would like to migrate users to the BBCiPlayer plugin for BBC content. Bryan (bpa) and Adrian (Triode) Bryan and Adrian hello. You have done a wonderful thing. With your tiny niche AlienBBC application you have moved the mountain of BBC bureaucracy to defy the pressures of the current paranoic proprietary commercial music culture and give people what they deserve: access to that for which they have already paid. For UK residents and tax payers it gives them huge payback on their taxes. For the rest of the world it is a wonderful vehicle for showing the world just what a wonderful culture the UK are. (Which, of course is the basis on which the BBC were founded.) So you have moved the mountain. Thank you. Well done. I am quite confident that the extension of the BBC iPlayer to SqueezeNet would not have happened but for AlienBBC giving people what they want. So now you can rest. For a while. But I am quite sure you shall find other dragons to slay... :-) Thank you again. God bless you both. Kind regards, Andy Lavarre Newport RI USA alava...@gmail.com -- alavarre alavarre's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Just added BB iPlayer to the set-up detailed below, and it seems to work pretty well. Comments: a) iPlayer seems to have solved the constant rebuffering that I have been getting using Alien to play live streams. b) iPlayer output is definitely a notch quieter than the Alien equivalent. c) I'm sometimes getting oddities in getting iPlayer audio (Live, or Listen Again) to start up. If I want to play direct from the iPlayer menu, I now usually have to go right to the very furthest menu item to get the Play icon to work. (eg, the Play icon alongside BBC Radio 7 under Home BBC iPlayer Listen Live *doesn't* start the audio. I need to go one level further to Home BBC iPlayer Listen Live BBC Radio 7 (where the logo and URL appear) to get the Play icon to work). Also, I save all my live radio streams as playlists (indeed my Playlist folder is called Radio, and has only my radio faves in it): sometimes the Play icon under playlists works, sometimes it doesn't.. d) The change in Alarm behavior is very annoying - but I'm going to raise that in a separate thread. -- agbagb AGB SqueezeCenter Version: 7.3.3 - 27044 (was: 7.3.2 - 24695) under Vista. 2 x SB3s, wireless, usually in sync. (Firmware 127 [was 123] on both) LinkSys WRT54GX2 / SRX 200 Router, WPA2. Controller 7.3 r6038 (was:7.3 r3993) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
BPA,i'm really starting to enjoy the wee radio.but i'm missing one important constituent i used extensively with previous incarnations of BBCiPLayer...the listen again function is not working here. i can select a program from last week and it (the radio) displays the lovely colur icon and info of the programme but no sound. i have tried various combinations of file system i.e. AAC/FLASH/WMA but they don't produce audio. i.e. File Format: AAC URL: rtmp://bbcmedia.fcod.llnwd.net:1935?icon=aHR0cDovL25vZGUxLmJiY2ltZy5jby51ay9pcGxheWVyL2ltYWdlcy9lcGlzb2RlL2IwMDhtMmI5XzUxMl8yODguanBnapp=YTE0MTQvZTM=ttl=MTI1NjUwNzcwMQ==duration=OTAwtcurl=cnRtcDovL2JiY21lZGlhLmZjb2QubGxud2QubmV0OjE5MzUvYTE0MTQvZTM=swfurl=streamname=bXA0OmJiYzcvc2VjdXJlX2F1dGgvUkJOMl9iYmM3Xy1fbW9uZGF5XzIzMzBfYjAwOG0yOTZfMjAwOV8xMF8xOV8yM18wNV8yMT9zPTEyNTY0NjA4OTImZT0xMjU2NTQ3MjkyJmg9YmUzODNkYmYxMmM2OTdhOTQwODNjYTAyN2Y3NGQ3OWM=desc=U2tldGNoIHNob3cgd2l0aCBSb2JpbiBJbmNlLCBIZWxlbiBNb29uLCBTbXVnIFJvYmVydHMgYW5kIEthdGUgV2FyZC4gRnJvbSBNYXJjaCAyMDAyLg==url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY28udWsvbWVkaWFzZWxlY3Rvci80L210aXMvc3RyZWFtL2IwMDhtMjk2update=UGx1Z2luczo6QkJDaVBsYXllcjo6QkJDTVNQYXJzZXI=.aac On Last.fm Radio you mention elsewhere about the server not having enough horsepower to transcode these files but it hasn't had any trouble before (QNAO 109Pro). my Transporter exhibits the same problem with nothing on the now playing screen. here's my system file from the QNAP:- Squeezebox Server Status Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Hostname: SqueezeServer Server IP Address: 192.168.2.7 Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 Total Players Recognized: 2 any ideas?. regards dennis -- dennis55 Slim Devices/Logitech Transporter Bonnec Audiosysteme Timpano Linn Products Akurate C4200 Totem Acoustics Forest SqueezeBox Radio Duet Controller Linn LP12/Cirkus/Ekos2/Dynavector DV17D2/Linn Linto/Linn Lingo1 last.fm/dennis55 dennis55's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8884 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
If some programs play and others do not - then it is likely to be a BBC issue. Have you disabled any audio formats in either BBCiPlayer settings or SBS Filetypes ? Can you give a specific example of a program that doesn't play and that was broadcast at least 24 hrs ago. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
MunichMelly;477443 Wrote: Only very few of my iplayer items will play. The ones which play seem to have a URL displayed (e.g.Listen Live - BBC Radio 1Xtra). The majority of items only have a picture and a description but no URL, and do not play bpa;477481 Wrote: Can you play the following URL - it is a AACplus stream. http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls Yes, that plays o.k. via Tune In URL Any more ideas? -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 58) QNAP 209 pro (SSOTS v3.15) Squeezecenter v7.3.2 BBCiPlayer plugin v0.9e Alien bbc plugin v2.4a4-7.3 MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I'm at a loss. AAC support on Linux was not standard in 7.3.2 so something has been added to your system which is non standard but enabled AAC support. SSOTS is a special build of SC with a lots of things added and changed to suit the QNAP systems. To stream BBC in AAC you need a special version of faad and I don't think your setup has it - even if you move to 7.3.3 I could still not be sure about what changes SSOTS has made. If you are in the UK - then it may be possible to use MP3 instead of AAC for Listen Again. For live stream - play the WMA streams - use BBC App or Radiofeeds UK. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
bpa;477524 Wrote: Since the AACplus stream seems to work and you are on 7.3.2 - AACplus was not part of SC build. What have you installed to handle AACplus - is it the AACplus plugin ? If you are not sure - do you have a filetype AACplus or AACP under WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes and if so what is in the MP3 and Flac entries ? Not sure I'm afraid. Can't see a AACplus plugin anywhere. AACplus or AACP don't appear as file types in the QNAP Squeezecenter's Settings/Advanced/Filetypes MP3 says MP3 native. FLAC says FLAC native, MP3 flac/ame, WAV flac Alternatively in the PC's Settings/Advanced/Filetypes MP3 says MP3 native. FLAC says FLAC native, MP3 disabled, WAV flac -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 58) QNAP 209 pro (SSOTS v3.15) Squeezecenter v7.3.2 BBCiPlayer plugin v0.9e Alien bbc plugin v2.4a4-7.3 MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
MunichMelly;477517 Wrote: The iPlayer problems also occur when running squeezecenter on my P.C. bpa;477539 Wrote: I'm at a loss. To stream BBC in AAC you need a special version of faad and I don't think your setup has it. I also have an independent squeezecenter installation (v7.3.2) on my Windows Vista p.c.; i.e. I can connect my Squeezebox to this server which then leaves QNAP and linux completely out of the game. Maybe we should therefore ignore the QNAP / Linux issues to begin with. Using the Vista installation I see exactly the same iPlayer problems, i.e. most programmes show a picture and description but no URL (and do not play). I am outside of the UK. Questions: - Would a missing or wrong type of decoder cause iPlayer not to display any URL for the stream, or just not allow it to play a displayed URL? - Would the necessary version of faad normally be available in Windows Vista (and any tips as to how I can find out if I have it)? Thanks in advance - I appreciate that this is taking up a lot of your time. -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 58) QNAP 209 pro (SSOTS v3.15) Squeezecenter v7.3.2 BBCiPlayer plugin v0.9e Alien bbc plugin v2.4a4-7.3 MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
MunichMelly;477893 Wrote: I also have an independent squeezecenter installation (v7.3.2) on my Windows Vista p.c.; i.e. I can connect my Squeezebox to this server which then leaves QNAP and linux completely out of the game. I believe it needs to be 7.3.3 to have support for AAC radio streaming. I would upgrade this server before using it to test iplayer. Ideally you upgrade it to 7.4.1, but 7.3.3 should work. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Triode;477908 Wrote: I believe it needs to be 7.3.3 to have support for AAC radio streaming. I would upgrade this server before using it to test iplayer. Ideally you upgrade it to 7.4.1, but 7.3.3 should work. After upgrading to 7.3.3 on the vista machine iPlayer now seems to work. Thanks. Unfortunately the same thing did not work on the QNAP, where I still have missing URL's for programmes which now work on the vista installation. Maybe I still have a decoder issue on the QNAP/SSOTS platform. -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 62) QNAP 209 pro (SSOTS v3.15) Squeezecenter v7.3.3 BBCiPlayer plugin v0.9e Alien bbc plugin v2.4a4-7.3 MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
The BBCiPlayer plugin will appear as BBC iPlayer under the Internet Radio menu. If you do not have the BBC iPlayer menu - restart SBS and also check your install. In the BBCiPlayer Menu you have Listen Live - under this submenu are all the live streams. In the BBCiPlayer Menu you also have stations such as Radio 1 - under these submenus are all the listen Again. There is no A-Z list of programs in BBCiPlayer. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Thanks for giving your time, especially on a Sunday. The BBCiPlayer plugin will appear as BBC iPlayer under the Internet Radio menu. If you do not have the BBC iPlayer menu - restart SBS and also check your install. In the BBCiPlayer Menu you have Listen Live - under this submenu are all the live streams. In the BBCiPlayer Menu you also have stations such as Radio 1 - under these submenus are all the listen Again. Yup, thanks. There it is and the various shows under each station too. All fine on the SB Server. But - and this is a big but, as I generally do not have the PC running all the time or SB Server either - I listen through SB.com, formerly the squeezenetwork. On my SBs, now under My Apps is a BBC listing. Beneath that are the channels again. No Listen Live choice, either. But they seem only to be the live feeds, as when I press the right nav key, I get only the add to favourites or remove if already in the favourites. Do I need to reload or sync the SBs again? Aren't they talking to the SBS on my PC? -- nkat nkat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13314 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Thefailed to parse message is usually associated with network problem and the inability to get the program info from BBC. Sometime caused by security s/w other time by network timeout. What OS are you using ? If Windows what security s/w ? Does the problem happen if security s/w is uninstalled (disbaling is usually not sufficient). Listen Again has never been available on SN so there is no change in Functionality. On SN when a station is shown - it is always the live stream. This is the way it has always been - no change. On SN/MySB.com if you have problem playing the BBC live feeds - try the RadioFeed UKs APP - it has more up to date URLs for BBC. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
This stuff takes longer than I have now, BPA. Thanks, though, and should revert soon. NK. -- nkat nkat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13314 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
read other feed you need version 2.6 of alienbbc. Now works as Alrighte describes (nice work!). -- boydd_uk boydd_uk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Does BBCiPlayer work outside of UK? Is there a summary of alien bbc features not supported in the BBCiPlayer plugin? I'm considering updating to Squeezebox Server 7.4.1 but am worried about losing bbc (non-live) programmes if I change my current setup. Squeezebox duet QNAP 209 pro SSOTS version 3.15 Squeezecenter version 7.3.2 Alien bbc v2.4a4-7.3 -- MunichMelly MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
BBCiPlayer works outside the UK and on SS 7.3.*. Is there a summary of alien bbc features not supported in the BBCiPlayer plugin? Is this necessary since there will be no choice after March 2010. Basically categories, schedule are not there now in BBCiPlayer and program availability can be delayed. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
bpa;476815 Wrote: BBCiPlayer works outside the UK and on SS 7.3.*. Thanks for the Infos. I've tried installing the BBCiplayer plugin (via extension downloader) both on my QNAP209pro and also on my Vista PC, but the non-live programs don't appear to work on either platforms. When I select play or add then nothing seems to happen. Listen Live works. I wanted to check out iPlayer on 7.3 before upgrading to 7.4. I've tried changing the iplayer settings but that didn't seem to make a difference either. Any ideas? -- MunichMelly MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I tried the above stream and it plays perfectly on my QNAP TS209 with SSOTS4.1 and SS4.7.1 - I can't get any sound out of BBCiplayer -- vdeknock vdeknock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4467 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Qnap ts 109 has SoC 500Hhz processor. I bought the box for this purpose be sad if it can't do aac feeds. If I disable aac filetype then will my ITunes library play ok? -- boydd_uk boydd_uk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I think 500Mhz processor might be borderline to decode AAC and re-encode into Flac particularly if the processor does not have floating point support. Try playing this 128k AAC stream - radio Paradise http://www.radioparadise.com/musiclinks/rp_128aac-2.m3u If I disable aac filetype then will my ITunes library play ok? Not sure what this has to do with BBC feeds - the AAC filetype is NOT the setting to change when dealing with BBC. It is generally not a good idea to disable a filetype. I'm not sure even what you mean by disable AAC filetypes - there are usually 4 settings WAV, PCM, MP3 and native - which ones are you disabling ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Hello I am having a problem with listen again - live works fine. I also had the same issue with several 7.41 interim builds - the last time it worked was with the 7.4 [but that once suffered form the multiple instances problem]. I see all the program listings and can choose a progam - but nothing other than the program name banner ever appears. The slim server web page claims that it is playing to the device for a while - it counts time happily but no sound. I have a readyNAS Nv as the server. During the upgrade I used the cleandb, removed all old versions, applied, clenadb again etc. Previously I enabled ssh and used a set of instructions posted elsewhere in this forum to clean up all the squeeze stuff from 7.4 Any thoughts or things I should check? Thank you -- IanCHC IanCHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Some changes are needed to AlienBBC as BBC have stopped some RealAudio and the version no needs to be updated for 7.4.1. The categories issues is a limitation placed by BBC I have an idea which may provide a similar feature for BBCiPlayer but putting effort into maintaining AlienBBC means new features have to be delayed. AlienBBC has more programs because the Web pages tend to be conservative and show about programs for about 8 days whereas BBCiPlayer uses an XML feed which imposes a very strict 7 days limit and also is a bit slower in makeing programs available. If you are in the UK then rebuffering is probably because you are getting higher speed streams - some non UK streams are also high speed than RealAudio such as local radio. If you are outside the UK then rebuffering should not happen with Listen again - it could be a server or local network issue but it is worth checking. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Having upgraded to 7.4 SSOTS 4.1. Neither Iplayer nor AlienBBC works: Alien BBC whines about not having mplayer - I presume this has been removed by SSOTS? Iplayer does everything apart from making any sound - no error message - just no sound. Any ideas? -- boydd_uk boydd_uk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Use BBCiPlayer as BBC are stopping RealAudio in March 2010. Are you in the UK ? What sort of player are you using ? If you are on SSOTS and using an older player (i.e. not SB Radio or Squeezeplay) - make sure SSOTS has the faad and flac that have been built with the patches that come with SBS. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I'm in the UK. I've installed 7.4 using SSODS 4.1. Was hopefully this would have the latest sound drivers. It's strange there are no errors the picture appears but just no sound and no errors on the duet. How do I update faad flac easily? -- boydd_uk boydd_uk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
SSODS creator has to ensure the flac and faad issues as it require a special build. As a test - can you play this AACplus stream - if it works then faad and flac are OK. http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Kinda works - just get constant rebuffering. But there is sound -- boydd_uk boydd_uk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
That SOMAfm stream is 48k - the BBC streams are typically 128k for UK listeners so your system may mot be able to handle transcoding the higher speed better quality Flash / AAC. You didn't say what sort of player you but assuming you do not have an SB1 or older, then you could try disabling the AAC preference in BBCiPlayer settings. Then MP3 or WMA should be sent to the player -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Sorry I have a Duet system with SB3 box. I've disabled AAC feed from settings, but same thing happens. Surprised can't handle 48k stream - I have a 10MB connection and QNAP nas would of thought it would work? hmm mystery -- boydd_uk boydd_uk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
[09-10-22 23:45:33.4302] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [23:45:33.4240] 'apps/cbc/index.html' is not the same as '(?-xism:apps/cbc/index.html)' at /share/HDA_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Web/Pages.pm line 131 Having checked the log I keep getting loads of the above warning msg. Not sure what they are about. -- boydd_uk boydd_uk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
That comes from the CBC App - nothing to do with BBCiPlayer. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
One reason for using Alien is that occasionally I find programmes that are available on Listen Again in AlienBBC but not in iPlayer. It's a BBC issue, not an iPlayer one, as those same programmes can't be downloaded to my computer using iPlayer Downloader. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
The BBC create the Web pages from the schedule info and so the assigned program id are usually known when Web page are available so AlienBBC knows a program id even before the program is broadcast and so it can start playing it as soon as the program file has been created. BBCiPlayer uses the XML feed which is only updated a few times a days (I feel it is about every 3 hrs). The issue is not RealAudio vs Flash/AAC etc. but the source of program id. AlienBBC could use the id to get the Flash/AAC or WMA streams instead of RealAudio. AlienBBC is slower to display menus (i.e. uses more CPU and more network GETs) and from a maintenance point of view needs more effort to keep up to date as the web pages changes often. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Alien seems to have better Favourite handling of streams, especially with alarms. The only other reason I'd like to keep the Alien functionality over iPlayer these days is that occasionally I encounter other real audio streams and I believe Alien is the only way to play these on my SqueezeBoxes. Do shout if I've got this wrong!! Real Player seems to be in terminal decline so presumably this will become less of an issue over time. -- knigma knigma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
The better Favorite handling will go away when BBC stop RealAudio streams in March 2010 - the real solution is to fix SBS alarm handling of streams. If you want to wake up to live BBC streams - I suggest using the WMA streams. It is the intention to create two Plugins - one for RealAudio support (still used by RAI Italy and RTE Ireland) and another for WMA support for older players on Linux and OSX. These plugins will therefore just provide audio format support - no station handling. The user will use Tune-in and favorites to play the streams / files. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Thanks for your reply. Out of interest, how do you expect the changes the BBC will implement when they retire Real Audio in March to change the behavior of the newer streams with Alarm functionality? I'm puzzled as to the connection between these two events. -- knigma knigma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Alien seems to have better Favourite handling of streams, especially with alarms. When the BBC retire RealAudio, AlienBBC will not show any menu items as there will be no RealAudio URLs provided so you will not be able to set alarm based on Alien entries/Favorites. Once RealAudio is gone, to play BBC programs as alarm then you will have to use BBCiPlayer. I have not tested but there are a few threads about some awkwardness about using BBCiPlayer streams with alarms. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I run a QNAP 209 and have just completed the upgrade to SS7.4.1. I can not get BBCiplayer to work, fails to connect. I have tried the SS inbuilt radio straeams and they work. What am I missing? My guess is that it is someting to do with the stream? -- vdeknock vdeknock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4467 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Thanks for asking for opinions on this. It would be really good to update the alarm functionality so it can support regular favorites from the iPlayer plugin. I also notice that even trying to play a simple stream directly using 7.4 with AlienBBC fails: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/meta/tx/nb/live_infent_au_nb.ram yields: [09-10-20 14:08:52.0419] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (140) Error: Select task failed calling Slim::Networking::Async::_async_read: Can't coerce array into hash at /var/db/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Alien/RTSPScanHeaders.pm line 169. ; fh=Slim::Networking::Async::Socket::HTTP=GLOB(0xc1130dc) [09-10-20 14:08:52.0459] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (140) Error: Select task failed calling Slim::Networking::Async::_async_read: Can't coerce array into hash at /var/db/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Alien/RTSPScanHeaders.pm line 169. ; fh=Slim::Networking::Async::Socket::HTTP=GLOB(0xc377538) Which doesn't seem that specific to BBC content. -- knigma knigma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
You have installed AlienBBC 2.6b1 ? AlienBBC 2.5 now only works for 7.4beta up to about August 09. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Ah, okay I just installed the version from the 7.4 plugin downloader which looks like v2.5 Where's the later version? -- knigma knigma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Since the BBC has announced they will be stopping RealAudio streams by 30 March 2010 (with the exception of World Service) - BBCiPlayer is the preferred plugin for users of BBC and as such AlienBBC has been removed from Plugin main list. Why do you need the RealAudio streams when there are equally good WMA streams which need no transcoding. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
With the advent of 7.4 and the changes to BBC stream availablity we would like to migrate users to the BBCiPlayer plugin for BBC content. To support this, I have removed AlienBBC from the recommended 3rd Party repository for the moment. The current version does not actually support 7.4 and the latest streams fully and so is generating support questions which are best answered by asking users to switch to BBCiPlayer. Alien is still needed to support Real Audio on any Squeezebox or WMA on Squeezeboxes which do not support this. We will update Alien and perhaps produce a separate WMA plugin to support this. At this point we will return it to the recommended lists if requested. Please post any questions below. Bryan (bpa) and Adrian (Triode) -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
My only question is the ability of BBCiPLayer to provide links to the Alarm Clock. Right now I have each morning's Wogan show set as a playlist, the SB Alarm calls that playlist and Wogan Wakes us up in the morning. Will I still be able to do this with BBCiPlayer? -- Sb42 Sb42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10692 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Sb42;470549 Wrote: My only question is the ability of BBCiPLayer to provide links to the Alarm Clock. Right now I have each morning's Wogan show set as a playlist, the SB Alarm calls that playlist and Wogan Wakes us up in the morning. There is a limitation with the alarm functionality which means you can't use a favorite to store the BBCiPlayer station for an alarm. Instead do the following: Play the stream you want to listen to on the player then set the alarm using current playlist as the alarm. This will store the stream including enough information to restart it in the alarm handler. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
I notice on another of your posts that version 0.9 of iPlayer has been recently made available and that you say to go to the plugins options on 7.4 to get the latest version. On my squeezecenter plugins information BBC iPlayer shows as v0.4 and I have the option ticked to upgrade plugins automatically but I don't see how I can upgrade it. BTW, the reason I ask is that iPlayer is no longer able to play anything other than the live streams since I upgraded to 7.4. The listings for old programmes are there but selecting them gives me nothing. Appreciate any help to get the latest version and / or get iPlayer working to stream non-live programmes. -- pashman pashman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21713 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Did you install BBCiPlayer manually? I suspect this is the problem - so please remove it and restart the server so the plugins page says it is not installed. Then select to install from the recommended repo. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Thanks, I did that - I just physically removed the plugin directory and restarted then installed and now have 0.9d. Now it works, but only if I select the programme from the web interface (maybe it always did, I don't normally use the web interface). If I use the squeezebox 3 remote to select from the menu I still get nothing and can see that it has selected a different option because I don't see the programme icon displayed. Any thoughts on how I might correct this? -- pashman pashman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21713 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
OK, it seems to be working now, maybe I just needed to be more patient for it to refresh its cache or something like. Thanks for you help. -- pashman pashman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21713 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC vs BBCiPlayer plugins
Triode;470556 Wrote: There is a limitation with the alarm functionality which means you can't use a favorite to store the BBCiPlayer station for an alarm. Instead do the following: Play the stream you want to listen to on the player then set the alarm using current playlist as the alarm. This will store the stream including enough information to restart it in the alarm handler. That's what I had been doing, thanks for the help. -- Sb42 Sb42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10692 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69588 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
