Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Michael! I think you have nailed the cause of this issue. If I change the URL to your suggestion, I get a mix back. replacing the %3d with the = sign? Or removing the additional parameters? That's quite surprising, as none of those showed any impact in my tests. But then I only tested against MIP on OSX and Linux (MIP 1.8). I'll test again on my WHS later this week or next week when I'm back at the office. What version are you running on your WHS? The plugin is downloaded via the repository. The SpiceFly plugin? The MIP integration is installed by default. If it indeed is a bug in the plugin, then more people should have this problem... Yeah... but still it's bad encoding (if the = vs. %3d issue is your problem). Please file a bug report - don't forget to add me to the CC list. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
mherger;486300 Wrote: Michael! I think you have nailed the cause of this issue. If I change the URL to your suggestion, I get a mix back. replacing the %3d with the = sign? Or removing the additional parameters? That's quite surprising, as none of those showed any impact in my tests. But then I only tested against MIP on OSX and Linux (MIP 1.8). I'll test again on my WHS later this week or next week when I'm back at the office. What version are you running on your WHS? The plugin is downloaded via the repository. The SpiceFly plugin? The MIP integration is installed by default. If it indeed is a bug in the plugin, then more people should have this problem... Yeah... but still it's bad encoding (if the = vs. %3d issue is your problem). Please file a bug report - don't forget to add me to the CC list. I am running version 1.8.1b (MIP) and 7.4.1 (SBS) you are right about MIP (of course),it is the standard integration. I did download SpiceFly from the repository... I will disable it and try this again to isolate the processs. Changing the ?3d to = did solve the problem for the URL I will file a bug report (based on the isolation test with SugarCube disabled).. Thanks! -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
I have disabled the SpiceFly SugarCube, and replicated the issue. I have filed a bug report here: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15129 Michael: you are on the CC of the bug, as requested. Thanks to all that have responded. Let's hope that this resolves the issue for WHS, and we can all get this up and running on WHS. -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Just thought I'd post contents of my mmm.ini for you to compare: [mix] mixsize=20 tracks restrict=10 tracks style=20 variety=0 seed=1 mydjrankingv2=1 dj= [server] proxy=0 host= proxyport=0 authentication=0 user= password= [services] key= cache=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\MusicIP\MusicIP Mixer\default.m3lib port=10002 tivo=0 upnp=0 api=1 readonly=0 refresh=15 cpu=2 archive=0 [mydj] mydj_user= mydj_password= -- BodgeIT Whether you think you can or you think you can't, either way you are right! *SS*(7.4.2 - r29251) on *WHS SP2*(VMWare 1.8 Device(No Sound Card)) *Slimp3*(FW 2.3), *Receiver*(FW 65) *Controller*(7.4.1 r7915). BodgeIT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17100 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
I guess what's going on is that the headless server and MusicIp GUI aren't actually talking to each other, only reading and writing to the same dbase. Funny how the Test Connection button on the server tab actually works? Didn't really pay that much attention when I set it up and it was a good while ago. That makes it very important that the headless server is using the file that is created by MusicIP Mixer. I think in one of your posts however you did say you could create a test mix in the webpage from Spicefly...so I could be barking up the wrong tree. -- BodgeIT Whether you think you can or you think you can't, either way you are right! *SS*(7.4.2 - r29251) on *WHS SP2*(VMWare 1.8 Device(No Sound Card)) *Slimp3*(FW 2.3), *Receiver*(FW 65) *Controller*(7.4.1 r7915). BodgeIT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17100 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
BodgeIT;485980 Wrote: Just thought I'd post contents of my mmm.ini for you to compare: Note the entries under [Services], now I'm not sure what's going on because in my Gui settings page in MusicIp API is not selected: I have changed the directory of the MIP Cache file, from Program files to Documents and Settings - Administrator - ... I have refreshed the songs in Headless MIP. Then restarted both MIP and SqueezeBoxServer. I can create a test mix in the MIP Headless mode. that works ok. I can still not create a mix for any song in SqueezeCenter. The MIP mixer icon shows in SqueezeBoxServer, but the mix shows up as empty (same API error). Same process with Firewall off on HomeServer: same result. log: [09-11-17 05:37:29.5522] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::_cacheidOK (556) Read cacheid of 1258268167 [09-11-17 05:37:29.5694] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::_statusOK (479) Read status idle [09-11-17 05:38:44.7111] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (928) Creating mix for: song using: \\mkshome\Music\Squeezebox\A\Alice In Chains\Facelift\03 Sea of Sorrow.mp3 as seed. [09-11-17 05:38:44.7120] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (941) Request http://localhost:10002/api/mix?song%3D%5C%5Cmkshome%5CMusic%5CSqueezebox%5CA%5CAlice%20In%20Chains%5CFacelift%5C03%20Sea%20of%20Sorrow.mp3variety=2rejectsize=5mixgenre=0style=20sizetype=minsize=240 [09-11-17 05:38:44.7347] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (962) Warning: Couldn't get mix: song%3D%5C%5Cmkshome%5CMusic%5CSqueezebox%5CA%5CAlice%20In%20Chains%5CFacelift%5C03%20Sea%20of%20Sorrow.mp3variety=2rejectsize=5mixgenre=0style=20sizetype=minsize=240 [09-11-17 05:38:44.7356] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (963) HTTP/1.0 500 Internal Server Error Client-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:38:44 GMT Client-Peer: 127.0.0.1:10002 Client-Response-Num: 1 MusicIP API error - invalid request or internal error. -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
http://localhost:10002/api/mix?song%3D%5C%5Cmkshome%5CMusic%5CSqueezebox%5CA%5CAlice%20In%20Chains%5CFacelift%5C03%20Sea%20of%20Sorrow.mp3variety=2rejectsize=5mixgenre=0style=20sizetype=minsize=240 Hmm... the above url seems to have a minor glitch. Can you open it in your browser? If not, what about the following: http://localhost:10002/api/mix?song=%5C%5Cmkshome%5CMusic%5CSqueezebox%5CA%5CAlice%20In%20Chains%5CFacelift%5C03%20Sea%20of%20Sorrow.mp3variety=2rejectsize=5mixgenre=0style=20sizetype=minsize=240 IMHO the = sign after song should not be URI encoded. But if that was a general issue in the MIP plugin, all of us users would see it fail :-/. If this still doesn't work, try removing one parameter after the other until you only use the song=... parameter (no variety, etc.). ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Hi Michael, I never did that on the Vista/Win7 installation either. It did not help on the WHS system either, so I too doubt the purpose.. It made no difference. Is there a way the API from Music IP can be inaccessible to SqueezeBoxServer, considering they both reside on the same box? Or am I barking up the wrong tree here? Regards, Matt -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Matt, I think you have another post on this running somewhere elae. I would like to confirm WHS running SB 7.4.2 with MusicIP 1.9b6 (headless). In reply to your other post I didn't mention that my system looks for it's music on my other server over the network. That's the only difference I can see at this point. By the way mine was working even without the depency change that I just made while following this issue. When accessing your local music you should still configure MusicIP and SB to access the local files through the network unc shares i.e. \\whsserver\music and not d:\shares\music WHS filesystem is configured in a pretty fangled way as far I have read and it can present problems accessing the file system directly. Oh and turn off your firewall. Hope this provide a breakthrough. -- BodgeIT Whether you think you can or you think you can't, either way you are right! *SS*(7.4.1 - r28761) on *WHS SP2*(VMWare 1.8 Device(No Sound Card)) *Slimp3*(FW 2.3), *Receiver*(FW 65) *Controller*(7.4.1 r7822). BodgeIT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17100 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Thanks. My apologies. I have not yet closed the other post and referenced this one. I have done that now. I have tried running it without the firewall on... that did not work. Since both servers are on the same box, I don't believe the firewall should block it. that said: after running with the firewall off, there was no difference. Maybe I will upgrade to SC 7.4.2 cheers Matt -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
I had this running with 7.3.3 on WHS as well. The firewall would block access to network share unless smb was allowedthrough which more thasn likely is default, Agree it shouldn't make a difference but just to rule it out I thought to suggest it. I don't know if you've tried this through your other endeavours but I did at one point in my setup suspect an issue with the musicip dbase and so renamed the file and created a new one through a fule rescan, then a rescan on SB. I'm sorry I just can't remember what the issue was that made me do that. -- BodgeIT Whether you think you can or you think you can't, either way you are right! *SS*(7.4.2 - r29251) on *WHS SP2*(VMWare 1.8 Device(No Sound Card)) *Slimp3*(FW 2.3), *Receiver*(FW 65) *Controller*(7.4.1 r7915). BodgeIT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17100 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
MusicIP API error - invalid request or internal error. This can result if the file to be mixed can't be found by mip. Does it happen with all files? Are you using the same unc path in mip? I can see the Music IP site on port 10002, both on WHS itself and on do you get a mix for the above file in the mip web ui? Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
from the web site (spicefly version of the index.html), the mixes are generated. From the GUI, the mixes work perfectly.. Only with SqueezeBoxServer I seem to have an issue. This worked very well before I migrated SqueezeBoxServer and MusicIP from my home use PC to a dedicated server. The UNC's in MusicIP are correct, I emptied the files from the client and did a rescan in the server (they do reed from the same cache file, which in Vista/Windows 7 is different) the file itself is mixable (from the 20,000 odd files I have, only a handful are not mixable). Is there something in particular in the WHS architecture (basically, it is Win2k3) i need to consider? -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
J_zurigo;485200 Wrote: yes, that's right. Nevertheless, I changed the settings in the gui (even if I'm not using it) to port 10003 and unchecked all the settings reg. api, etc. (just like Spicefly suggests here: http://spicefly.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=35Itemid=32 ). I did configure my mmm.ini and disabled the bonjour service, too (as MeSue once pointed out). I guess that's basicly what I did... after hours of waiting to finish the song analysis (and the clean/rescan of Squeezeserver), it just worked. I have confirmed that the settings in MMM.ini are as per website instructions, and the Client settings are identical (i.e. switch to port 10003 on the client). The server is still accessible over port 10002 (which it gets from mmm.ini). Still no luck. Not giving up though :) -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
I have confirmed that the settings in MMM.ini are as per website instructions, and the Client settings are identical (i.e. switch to port 10003 on the client). The server is still accessible over port 10002 (which it gets from mmm.ini). I don't know where this idea about port changing comes from. I never had to do this (neither on Windows XP, nor WHS, Linux, OSX). I really don't remember having to configure anything but the startup order and the music folder. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Hi there, OP here. No, I never got this working. I spent a lot of time on it and gave up frustrated. It just seems it needed too many steps to get it to work. I have fallen back on erland's dynamic playlists which I have tweaked to use keywords I have embedded in the comment fields of my mp3s. This gives me a random playback of stuff I like (which is what I wanted from MIP) CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen), Radio on Christmas List *Squeezecenter:* 7.4.1 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8.1 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.4.5 | Custom Scan 2.7.2 | TrackStat 2.9.1 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Although I was not able to help matthijskoopmans with his WHS/MIP issue so far, I can confirm having a working WHS/MIP(headless)/Squeezeserver installation over here. If it helps, that's the Squeezeserver version I'm using: Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:13:15 PDT 2009 cheers J_zurigo -- J_zurigo 1 SB classic, 1 Boom, 1 Duet 7.4.1 running on WHS on Acer Easystore H340 J_zurigo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10235 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Thanks Chunky Wizard.. I am not giving up just yet. When I do get it working, I am sure to put up a Wiki for it. J Zurigo: i wonder what the differences are between our two systems. I have eliminated the issue to SqueezeboxServer not being able to access the MusicIP API. I assume you run MIP headless, and don't have the gui running on the WHS desktop? -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
matthijskoopmans;485174 Wrote: I assume you run MIP headless, and don't have the gui running on the WHS desktop? yes, that's right. Nevertheless, I changed the settings in the gui (even if I'm not using it) to port 10003 and unchecked all the settings reg. api, etc. (just like Spicefly suggests here: http://spicefly.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=35Itemid=32 ). I did configure my mmm.ini and disabled the bonjour service, too (as MeSue once pointed out). I guess that's basicly what I did... after hours of waiting to finish the song analysis (and the clean/rescan of Squeezeserver), it just worked. -- J_zurigo 1 SB classic, 1 Boom, 1 Duet 7.4.1 running on WHS on Acer Easystore H340 J_zurigo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10235 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
ob_kook;485231 Wrote: You guys who are using MusicIP - do you know if the analysis servers are running again? For a while they were taken down, and my collection is frankly too big to run the analysis all locally. I used to have the entire thing analyzed, but the results were corrupted and finally I ditched them when I reinstalled SS on a Win7 virtual machine on my 2008 Server R2. I'd like to use sugarcube, but without the MIP analysis results, it seems not as useful. Any advice? I ripped some new CDs a few days ago and the analysis worked fine. Before commencing this reply I tested the Server Connection in MIP and it came back as OK almost straight away. -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
The analysis server seems to be up and running. (much unlike my WHS-MIP-SBS integration :) ) Cheers Matt -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
You guys who are having trouble getting this up and running - where are you stuck? ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
hi Michael, I seem to be stuck where SqueezeBoxServer invokes MIP via the API to send a seed for mixing, and receive the mix back. Here is the log output with MusicIP on Debugger: [09-11-11 15:27:07.1999] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (928) Creating mix for: album using: \\mkshome\Music\Squeezebox\Tool\10,000 Days\01. Vicarious.mp3 as seed. [09-11-11 15:27:07.2004] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (941) Request http://localhost:10002/api/mix?album...e=minsize=240 [09-11-11 15:27:07.2201] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (962) Warning: Couldn't get mix: album%3D%5C%5Cmkshome%5CMusic%5CSqueezebox%5CTool% 5C10%2C000%20Days%5C01.%20Vicarious.mp3variety=2 rejectsize=5mixgenre=0style=20sizetype=minsize =240 [09-11-11 15:27:07.2207] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (963) HTTP/1.0 500 Internal Server Error Client-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:27:07 GMT Client-Peer: 127.0.0.1:10002 Client-Response-Num: 1 MusicIP API error - invalid request or internal error. I can see the Music IP site on port 10002, both on WHS itself and on any client computer on my network. (MIP is running headless on the Windows Home Server, which also runs SqueezeBoxServer) cheers Matt -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
To Original Poster: I am quite interested in learning if you actually got MIP working over WHS. To anyone that may be able to help: I am a big MIP and SugarCube fan, but for the life of me, I cannot seem to get MIP working on WHS. I started a separate thread on that (here: ), and here is a snip with the relevant info: --snip-- Installed the spicefly index.html, and created a test mix (via the index page on the browser) from my connected PC. That works fine. Running the same test mix on the home server (usin IE on the home server) works fine as well. Running the mix from SqueezeCenter: empty mix. The stats: Total songs 21,033 Mixable songs 21,026 Songs to validate 0 There must be something in the squeezecener / music ip interface that is not set up right, it seems squeezecenter cannot access the MIP API. here is the output of the debugger: [09-11-11 15:27:07.1999] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (928) Creating mix for: album using: \\mkshome\Music\Squeezebox\Tool\10,000 Days\01. Vicarious.mp3 as seed. [09-11-11 15:27:07.2004] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (941) Request http://localhost:10002/api/mix?album...e=minsize=240 [09-11-11 15:27:07.2201] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (962) Warning: Couldn't get mix: album%3D%5C%5Cmkshome%5CMusic%5CSqueezebox%5CTool% 5C10%2C000%20Days%5C01.%20Vicarious.mp3variety=2 rejectsize=5mixgenre=0style=20sizetype=minsize =240 [09-11-11 15:27:07.2207] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (963) HTTP/1.0 500 Internal Server Error Client-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:27:07 GMT Client-Peer: 127.0.0.1:10002 Client-Response-Num: 1 MusicIP API error - invalid request or internal error. --end snip-- This stops me from running my beloved spicefly sugercube mixes as well (obviously :) ) Thanks in advance for any advice you could give me. -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600 Server: Windows Home Server matthijskoopmans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
tamanaco;456406 Wrote: cparker, do you plan to fully support the SugarCube plugin on the SC 7.4 builds or are you just going to wait for the 8.x builds and bypass the 7.4 builds all together? Yep when it reaches critical mass and is the std version, plus if there is interest in keeping it up-to-date. I must admit most of the enhancements are on hold until the db settles as my next adventures will be delving under the covers and they are changing, so I would prefer to work off a stable version than have to rewrite it again. -- cparker www.spicefly.com - Visit for an enhanced Interface for MusicIP and integration tips and tricks, Plugin coding tips, Spicefly SugarCube the MIP AutoDJ plugin and SpiceyWeather an animated weather forecast plugin! cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
cparker;457252 Wrote: Yep when it reaches critical mass and is the std version, plus if there is interest in keeping it up-to-date. I must admit most of the enhancements are on hold until the db settles as my next adventures will be delving under the covers and they are changing, so I would prefer to work off a stable version than have to rewrite it again. Glad to hear that you have not completely given up on SC 7.4. Standing on the sidelines I can see that not a lot of new or enhanced plugins have surfaced lately. Like yourself other developers might be reluctant to introduce new plugins or enhanced existing ones for fear that the next build around the corner will brake them. It is not pleasant to see all your hard work be made obsolete by changes outside your control. Maybe soon the SC 7.4 will stabilize enough to allow you to update SugarCube on this build and also allow you to move those updates to the next quantum leap (SC 8.x) without much pain. Btw, I'm still using SugarCube on SC 7.4, but I restrict it from using the Latin and World Music genres in my library because this is where the majority of the tracks with path/filenames with extended characters exists. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
I'll probably support it once its shipped looking at the Change Log there isnt anything that is a must have to inspire me to upgrade to 7.4 at the moment. Regards -- Pipedream Pipedream's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
cparker;456015 Wrote: Correct, though the standard MusicIP plugin works in the same method just that it talks to the engine once to gather a heap of tracks in one go. SugarCube works independently and doesnt require the MusicIP plugin enabled within Squeezecenter with its double scanning overhead. etc (Though much improved in later versions) As you say Apples and Oranges.. you can use SugarCube in place of the standard MusicIP plugin, I certainly dont use it any more but then I'm biased I guess ;) It talks to the engine via the port http://localhost:10002/ or whatever has been configured via MusicIP headless or the MusicIP GUI frontend and does so at each track change, so it explores your library without being saddled to a static playlist. Cheers cparker, there was a change made in last night's build that fixed the MusicIP issue with extended characters. I thought, wrongly so, that once the issue with extended characters with MusicIP was fixed that it would also fix the same issue with SugarCube. This was the case a while ago when the extended characters issue was fixed in MusicIP and resolved the the issue in SugarCube. See my post (#20) towards the end of this thread. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67219 Could it be that a change needs to be made in your plugin to get it to work again with tracks with extended characters on top of the new SC 7.4 MySQL builds? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Well I can tell you that the MIP plugin and the Sugarcube are mutually exclusive and dont touch each other at all. SugarCube does obviously utilise utf8 and I guess something has changed with the Squeeze Unicode utf8 de/encoding functions that is breaking it. I think I'll stick with 7.3.x for the time being, it was painful enough fixing this the first time around! Cheers -- cparker www.spicefly.com - Visit for an enhanced Interface for MusicIP and integration tips and tricks, Plugin coding tips, Spicefly SugarCube the MIP AutoDJ plugin and Spicefly Weather! cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
cparker;456323 Wrote: Well I can tell you that the MIP plugin and the Sugarcube are mutually exclusive and dont touch each other at all. SugarCube does obviously utilise utf8 and I guess something has changed with the Squeeze Unicode utf8 de/encoding functions that is breaking it. I think I'll stick with 7.3.x for the time being, it was painful enough fixing this the first time around! Cheers I knew that the plugins were not dependent on each other, but I was hoping that what was fixed to make MusicIP work was also going to affect SugarCube... but I guess the MusicIP fix was in the plugin's code not the server's code. I've been using an old SC 7.4 MySQL build 26558 as both MusicIP and SugarCube work without any issues. I think is time for me to move on to the current SC 7.4 builds now that MusicIP works on those builds. There are a lot of enhancements in 7.4 that I want to get acquainted with and so today's build is moving on top of my main server. It would have been nice if I had SugarCube and MusicIP working, but I guess I can live without one, but not both. cparker, do you plan to fully support the SugarCube plugin on the SC 7.4 builds or are you just going to wait for the 8.x builds and bypass the 7.4 builds all together? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
There is a ok write-up here about half-way down the page but it isn't specific to WHS: http://wiredformusic.blogspot.com/2008/05/squeezing-most-out-of-your-squeezebox.html -- lrossouw 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Thanks for that, interesting reading. Unfortunately it does back up my message that information is not in the right place and is incomplete! This article says the solution to getting MusicIP and SBS to boot in the right order is to do it manually. I would prefer an automated solution. I could try the registry hack on spicefly.com but I am not sure if it is up to date or not, can anyone advise? Also the article talks about the MusicIP plugin, not spicefly so I am still unsure of the difference between them. Again, if someone can clarify that would be great. Cheers CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen) *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-28xxx for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.42 | Custom Scan 2.7 | TrackStat 2.9 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
This article says the solution to getting MusicIP and SBS to boot in the right order is to do it manually. You have to do it as described by spicefly (create a dependancy). This is still true in 7.3+. I could try the registry hack on spicefly.com but I am not sure if it is up to date or not, can anyone advise? I did it only about a week ago. The instructions aren't fully up to date. The service now is called squeezesvc, no longer slimsvc. So instead of providing a reg file (which many malware scanners will block anyway) better give clear instructions on how to do this. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
One more thing: instead of setting up a new page somewhere new you should update the wiki, eg. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter or related. This way we won't end up with several outdated and conflicting pages. Thanks! -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
mherger;455939 Wrote: One more thing: instead of setting up a new page somewhere new you should update the wiki, eg. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter or related. This way we won't end up with several outdated and conflicting pages. Thanks! -- Michael I've never edited a wiki before but if I get this all up and running I will try and make sure all the information appears in the wiki, Cheers CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen) *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-28xxx for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.42 | Custom Scan 2.7 | TrackStat 2.9 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
mherger;455938 Wrote: This article says the solution to getting MusicIP and SBS to boot in the right order is to do it manually. You have to do it as described by spicefly (create a dependancy). This is still true in 7.3+. I could try the registry hack on spicefly.com but I am not sure if it is up to date or not, can anyone advise? I did it only about a week ago. The instructions aren't fully up to date. The service now is called squeezesvc, no longer slimsvc. So instead of providing a reg file (which many malware scanners will block anyway) better give clear instructions on how to do this. -- Michael Thanks for the clarification. Can you tell me how to create a dependency then? I had a look the properties of SBS in services and the dependencies tab is greyed out.. Cheers CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen) *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-28xxx for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.42 | Custom Scan 2.7 | TrackStat 2.9 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Thanks for the clarification. Can you tell me how to create a dependency then? That's stupid: while the service GUI offers a page to show the dependencies, there's imho no way to configure them in there. Your best bet is to use sc.exe, as eg. described here: http://www.kiwisyslog.com/help/cattools/index.html?appserv_howtoaddservdepends.htm -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
mherger;455946 Wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Can you tell me how to create a dependency then? That's stupid: while the service GUI offers a page to show the dependencies, there's imho no way to configure them in there. Your best bet is to use sc.exe, as eg. described here: http://www.kiwisyslog.com/help/cattools/index.html?appserv_howtoaddservdepends.htm -- Michael Fantastic, another piece of the puzzle thanks! Can you answer my other question. Do I need both the MusicIP plugin and the SpiceFly plug-in or can I use one without the other? Thanks in advance, CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen) *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-28xxx for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.42 | Custom Scan 2.7 | TrackStat 2.9 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Can you answer my other question. Do I need both the MusicIP plugin and the SpiceFly plug-in or can I use one without the other? Don't know about SpiceFly. But you sure can use MusicIP without it. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
mherger;455946 Wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Can you tell me how to create a dependency then? That's stupid: while the service GUI offers a page to show the dependencies, there's imho no way to configure them in there. Your best bet is to use sc.exe, as eg. described here: http://www.kiwisyslog.com/help/cattools/index.html?appserv_howtoaddservdepends.htm -- Michael Nothing's ever easy! (Especially if you are in over your head ;D) So I opened a DOS box and typed: sc config squeezesvc depend= MusicMagicServer and I got back [SC] ChangeServiceConfig SUCCESS so I think it has worked, however I don't know how to check it. If I get up properties of the Squeezebox server in Services no dependencies show. One thing that puzzled me is the SBS executable is SqueezeSvr.exe yet the service is called squeezesvc, why is that? When I try and restart SBS I get the message Error 1075: The dependency service does not exist or has been marked for deletion. I reckon I have got the service name for MusicIP wrong, but how do I find it out? Thanks CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen) *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-28xxx for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.42 | Custom Scan 2.7 | TrackStat 2.9 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
not exist or has been marked for deletion. I reckon I have got the service name for MusicIP wrong, but how do I find it out? Well, it's written on MusicIP's service page. And it's MusicIP Server here. So don't forget the quotes in the sc.exe command line -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Great. I can confirm it's all working now. You need to type the follow in the DOS box: sc config squeezesvc depend= MusicIP Server It now shows as a dependency in services. Thanks very much for your help CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen) *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-28xxx for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.42 | Custom Scan 2.7 | TrackStat 2.9 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
mherger;455951 Wrote: Can you answer my other question. Do I need both the MusicIP plugin and the SpiceFly plug-in or can I use one without the other? Don't know about SpiceFly. But you sure can use MusicIP without it. -- Michael Well, maybe this information could be useful: This is how I seee it at a high level. The difference between MusicIP and SugarCube is that with MusicIP one can manually create an intelligent playlist with a predetermined number of tracks based on a single seed (track). While SugarCuge (when enabled) automatically creates an endless playlist where the next track is selected by MusicIP based on currently playing track. In essence the resulting playlists from SugarCube are based on multiple seeds. The mood of a playlist generated using MusicIP will closely follow the mood of the seed track while the mood of a SugarCube playlist will eventually diverge from the mood of the seed track. Looks like apples and oranges, but SugarCube is dependent on the intelligence of the MusicIP engine to select the next track to the playlist. Here is some more info that might help: There are to methods to validate one's library using MusicIP. One is with embedded MusicIP tags that hold the validation info and the other is by using a reference file (default.m3lib) which holds an index of tracks with their corresponding MusicIP validation info. Because MusicIP is/was in Beta I choose to use the index file method. If I decide to change the location of my music library I have to reflect that change in the default.m3lib file for MusicIP to continue to work. I still don't know if adding the MusicIP tags to my library might affect the way it works with SC or other media players/servers. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
tamanaco;455975 Wrote: SugarCube is dependent on the intelligence of the MusicIP engine to select the next track to the playlist. Correct, though the standard MusicIP plugin works in the same method just that it talks to the engine once to gather a heap of tracks in one go. SugarCube works independently and doesnt require the MusicIP plugin enabled within Squeezecenter with its double scanning overhead. etc (Though much improved in later versions) As you say Apples and Oranges.. you can use SugarCube in place of the standard MusicIP plugin, I certainly dont use it any more but then I'm biased I guess ;) It talks to the engine via the port http://localhost:10002/ or whatever has been configured via MusicIP headless or the MusicIP GUI frontend and does so at each track change, so it explores your library without being saddled to a static playlist. Cheers -- cparker www.spicefly.com - Visit for an enhanced Interface for MusicIP and integration tips and tricks, Plugin coding tips, Spicefly SugarCube the MIP AutoDJ plugin and Spicefly Weather! cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
tamanaco;455975 Wrote: This is how I seee it at a high level. The difference between MusicIP and SugarCube is that with MusicIP one can manually create an intelligent playlist with a predetermined number of tracks based on a single seed (track). I would just make a correction that you are not restricted to a single track for the seed. Your MIP mixes can be based on a single track, an album, an artist, a playlist, or multiple tracks. It's just that in most Squeezebox interfaces, it's difficult to select multiple tracks unless they are in a playlist. I like the rest of your description. Sugarcube tends to meander a lot more that a regular MIP mix, which is the main difference to me. Often I don't like the direction it gets going in and I have to start it off clean again, but setting up filters in MIP helps with that. Chunkywizard: You may already have this covered, but if you write anything up, you should make a note about disabling the Bonjour service on WHS before running the MusicIP installer. That tripped me up until I found the solution via Google. Now that the MIP forums are gone, it might not be as easy to find the solution. Also, I never did anything special, and I have never had a problem with the startup order of MusicIP and Squeezebox Server. You may want to make a suggestion in your write-up to run analysis on a machine other that your WHS machine. I found that even going over the network, it was TONS faster to do analysis on one of my client machines instead of my HP MediaSmart. It also kept it from bogging down the server for the several days it was going to take to do analysis. By running it on my client PC, it was done overnight. I also do all new music analysis on a client machine over the network, archiving analysis, and then just add the songs via headless GUI. Guess that's all I can think of to add... -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 SB2 | HP MediaSmart Server Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
MeSue;456079 Wrote: I would just make a correction that you are not restricted to a single track for the seed. Your MIP mixes can be based on a single track, an album, an artist, a playlist, or multiple tracks. It's just that in most Squeezebox interfaces, it's difficult to select multiple tracks unless they are in a playlist. Thanks for clarifying... I should had said single seed (track, album, artist and playlist) MeSue;456079 Wrote: I like the rest of your description. Sugarcube tends to meander a lot more that a regular MIP mix, which is the main difference to me. Often I don't like the direction it gets going in and I have to start it off clean again, but setting up filters in MIP helps with that. I sometimes don't like the direction either, but I find the paths that it uncovers very interesting. I enable SugarCube and walk away... If I don't like where is going I select a new seed (track, album, artist and playlist)... and walk away again. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed
Thanks for all the input, I now know a lot more than before. However I still don't know enough to get this working! I'm still fiddling, and will be back with questions if my current ideas all fail ;-D I reread the wiki and I really don't know enough to update it, I'm skimming the surface. What I might do (if I ever get it working) is do a bluffers guide ie, a short key-points guide. I can also point to areas of the wiki that are wrong, but it will not be a complete update as I don't understand a lot of it! CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen) *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-28xxx for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.42 | Custom Scan 2.7 | TrackStat 2.9 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67592 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
