Re: Who ordered another Texan
Talk about an insult to LBJ. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:07 PM, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.netwrote: -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
News of the Weird, April 5, 2009
From: Travis - From: Chuck Shepherd Date: Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM Subject: News of the Weird, April 5, 2009 WEIRDNUZ.M104 (News of the Weird, April 5, 2009) by Chuck Shepherd Copyright 2009 by Chuck Shepherd. All rights reserved. Lead Story * Canadian filmmaker Rob Spence said recently that he would install a prosthetic eye with a camera and wireless transmitter (of the size now used for colonoscopies) into the socket from which one of his eyes had been removed as the result of a childhood accident. He hopes to control the prosthetic eye in the same way that his muscles control his good eye, to record what his eyes see, and his first project will be a documentary on people's attitudes about privacy in an Orwellian society. [T]he best way to make a connection [with an interviewee] is through eye contact, he said. When you bring in a camera, people change. [Canadian Broadcasting Corp., 3-12-09] Government in Action * Artist Beth Grossman created her wall exhibit, Seats of Power, to encourage citizens to greater activism in local affairs around Brisbane, Calif. (just south of San Francisco Bay). The Seats are upholstered cushions individually tailored with the buttprints of each of the 10 city council members, who allowed Grossman to photograph them from behind, clothed, through a sheet of plexiglass pressed against their posteriors to simulate being seated. All 10 co-operated, including Mayor Sepi Richardson, who said she had been considering her legacy lately, but I never thought it would be my butt. [Los Angeles Times, 3-20-09] * Small-Town Politics: (1) Resident Tony Randall of Ashland, N.H. (pop., 2,000), a surveyor by trade who was elected chief of the town's 12-member police force in March, promised he would know more about his job by September, when he will finish police academy training. (2) The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that a March meeting of the Medina, Ohio, City Council required a recess when all members engaged in serial giggling over one person's flatulence. (3) Mayor Jerry Oberholtzer of Snellville, Ga., involved in a recent feud with an aggressive city council member, called on police chief Roy Whitehead to escort him to the men's room at City Hall for his safety. [Boston Herald-AP, 3-11-09] [WEWS-TV (Cleveland), 3-11-09] [Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 2-11-09] * The U.S. Food and Drug Administration, with the impossible task of regulating 18,000 makers of drug devices (and thousands other companies) and enforcing 123 new federal laws since 1988), has had virtually no increase in staff in 15 years. It's little wonder, then, that the AM2PAT company of Angier, N.C., was not caught before bacteria in its pre-filled syringes were linked to five deaths and hundreds of illnesses in December 2007. Subsequently inspected, AM2PAT's saline and heparin syringes were found to contain debris and sediment and to be muddy and dingy brown in color. Furthermore, according to a February report in the Raleigh News Observer, the required clean [air] room was found to be just a room with a fan, and the company's chief microbiologist was revealed to be a teenager who had dropped out of high school. The company's owner has fled to his native India to avoid prosecution. [News Observer, 2-25-09] The Homeland Is Secure * The U.S. Transportation Security Administration ruled in January that a post-9-11 federal maritime law, which requires comprehensive background credentials for mariners holding U.S. Coast Guard authorization on U.S. waters, applies even to the two mule skinners who work, in tourist season, dressed in colonial costumes at the Hugh Moore Historical Park in Easton, Pa. The park's lone mule-pulled boat is operated in a two-mile-long canal that is near nothing of strategic significance, said the park director. [CNN, 2-25-09] * In addition to addressing the usual state homeland-security concerns, Kentucky's statute requires anyone licensed as a first responder to disasters to take an oath against dueling (I, being a citizen of this state, have not fought a duel with deadly weapons . . . nor have I sent or accepted a challenge [to duel], nor have I acted as second in carrying a challenge [to duel], so help me God). Another provision requires the state Homeland Security Office's executive director to publicize a legislative finding that reliance upon Almighty God is necessary to homeland security. [Kentucky Statutes Section 39G.010(2)(a), as reported in the lawyers' blog LoweringTheBar.net, 2-23-09] Police Blotter * Police were called to the Aliso (Calif.) Town Center on March 15th after a woman telephoned 911 to report being attacked near the Center's fountain by another woman, who had flung her dog's feces at her and her infant. The flinger was said to be upset about complaints from passersby about the enema she was giving her dog in public. [Orange County Register, 3-17-09] * Names in the News: Charged in Albuquerque in February with giving her daughter
So, why do Muslim women love strong men?
From: Travis Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2009 Subject: So, why do Muslim women love strong men? http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/so-why-do-muslim-women-love-strong-men/ -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What a pain in the ass ....
I had the same problem for the longest time, until I got pregnant. I was 23 and weighed 85 lbs. Ahh, the days I could eat what I wanted and not gain an ounce. After Widget was born, I couldn't lose the excess weight. Finally, I am. On Apr 5, 11:09 pm, rigsy03 rigs...@yahoo.com wrote: I think it is ridiculous how obsessed American women/girls are in inventing an image even with risk to their health/life.// I've worked to gain 15 pounds from my usual weight of 110 as these birdlike senior women look like cadavers and I finally have a fanny! :-) On Apr 5, 8:47 am, kd kdlee...@gmail.com wrote: A little exercise would have made anyone look better. Plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures are great for people who are injured due to an accident or birth defect, but people must go to a licensed physician. Even w/ a doctor, there can be major complications. On Apr 5, 7:55 am, RichardForbes richard_forbe...@hotmail.com wrote: A seemingly harmless cosmetic procedure turned deadly for a Bronx woman. She died one day after receiving silicone injections in her thighs, allegedly administered by someone without a medical license. Fiordaliza Pichardo's husband never thought she needed silicone injections to make her more attractive and would often tell her: 'Hey, why you do that? Stop doing that.' She'd tell me, 'Oh let me do this a little bit,' Fausto Rodriguez told CBS 2 HD. And the 43-year old tried to keep her injections secret, especially since they were allegedly being administered by her unlicensed friend, Elsa Then. She trusted this lady so health-wise, no worries, said Kelvin Rodriguez, the victim's son. But the worries became real on March 16 when the family says the woman then paid a visit. I seen the lady and her preparing. What I saw was the towel, Kelvin Rodriguez said. Mother and friend went to the bedroom, where behind closed doors, another injection, this one to the thigh, took place. But then hours later something started to happen to Pichardo. She told me she got problems with her chest, breathing and then she told me she wanted to go the hospital, Fausto Rodriguez said. Pichardo was rushed to the hospital but died the next morning of what the medical examiner's officer said was a silicone pulmonary embolism, caused by so much silicone injected that it was clotting in her lungs. CBS 2 HD caught up with Elsa Then, who told us she's a cosmetologist and that she was questioned by police. When asked if she does silicone injections, she said, No, never. CBS 2 HD: You're telling me you never injected this woman, in the thighs, in the buttocks? Then: Yes, I never did. Then admitted to knowing Pichardo and even visiting her in the hospital, a place where the family says Then could have told doctors about the injection, but never did. She didn't say anything, at all, daughter Marines Rodriguez said. I'm positive. The doctors had no idea. The family admits it, too, didn't tell doctors about the silicone injection because they didn't think there was any connection. Now the connection is all too real -- a silicone injection turning so tragic. We're missing one person. Nobody can replace that hole, Fausto Rodriguez said. Police said so far no arrests have been made, but they are investigating.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Inept Moonbats Continue to Suffer From BDS
Real talent there. Can you imagine them running up against a Jack palance type from City Slickers? Travis wrote: From: *Travis* Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2009 Subject: Inept Moonbats Continue to Suffer From BDS http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/04/inept_moonbats.html -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What a pain in the ass ....
That's one way to get rid of Fembot Pelosi On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:55 AM, RichardForbes richard_forbe...@hotmail.comwrote: A seemingly harmless cosmetic procedure turned deadly for a Bronx woman. She died one day after receiving silicone injections in her thighs, allegedly administered by someone without a medical license. Fiordaliza Pichardo's husband never thought she needed silicone injections to make her more attractive and would often tell her: 'Hey, why you do that? Stop doing that.' She'd tell me, 'Oh let me do this a little bit,' Fausto Rodriguez told CBS 2 HD. And the 43-year old tried to keep her injections secret, especially since they were allegedly being administered by her unlicensed friend, Elsa Then. She trusted this lady so health-wise, no worries, said Kelvin Rodriguez, the victim's son. But the worries became real on March 16 when the family says the woman then paid a visit. I seen the lady and her preparing. What I saw was the towel, Kelvin Rodriguez said. Mother and friend went to the bedroom, where behind closed doors, another injection, this one to the thigh, took place. But then hours later something started to happen to Pichardo. She told me she got problems with her chest, breathing and then she told me she wanted to go the hospital, Fausto Rodriguez said. Pichardo was rushed to the hospital but died the next morning of what the medical examiner's officer said was a silicone pulmonary embolism, caused by so much silicone injected that it was clotting in her lungs. CBS 2 HD caught up with Elsa Then, who told us she's a cosmetologist and that she was questioned by police. When asked if she does silicone injections, she said, No, never. CBS 2 HD: You're telling me you never injected this woman, in the thighs, in the buttocks? Then: Yes, I never did. Then admitted to knowing Pichardo and even visiting her in the hospital, a place where the family says Then could have told doctors about the injection, but never did. She didn't say anything, at all, daughter Marines Rodriguez said. I'm positive. The doctors had no idea. The family admits it, too, didn't tell doctors about the silicone injection because they didn't think there was any connection. Now the connection is all too real -- a silicone injection turning so tragic. We're missing one person. Nobody can replace that hole, Fausto Rodriguez said. Police said so far no arrests have been made, but they are investigating. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Who ordered another Texan
Exactly. Travis wrote: Talk about an insult to LBJ. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:07 PM, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net mailto:rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
I think he do have a problem
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IT and Power Grid key to electric cars
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The Petraeus Factor
From: Travis Subject: The Petraeus Factor by Greg Lewis Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, Greg Lewis http://greglewis.org/2009/033109-a.htm http://greglewis.org/2009/033109-a.htm The Petraeus Factor *Greg Lewis.com* ** *General David Petraeus, the man who turned around the War in Iraq, might have one more country to save from a tyrannical dictator before he retires. I'm not speaking of Iran or Venezuela; I'm speaking of the United States. We're currently in the midst of what amounts to a bloodless leftist coup, and patriotic Americans, who have given Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt but are finally sensing what's really taking place, are beginning to look around for a leader capable of taking charge and reinstating courage, ballast, and sanity into our political situation.* ** *David Limbaugh summarizes our dilemma in this way: President Barack Obama is multi-tasking the dismantling of the American system on so many fronts that not all of the outrages can be properly monitored, to which I would add in much the same way Jihadists attempted to thwart our efforts to unify Iraq under a democratically elected government. For what is happening in Washington D.C. under the Obama administration is nothing less than a bloodless version of the attempted jihadist coup in Iraq, a takeover of our government by decidedly non-democratic political forces. And such a threat to democracy demands a true democratic champion.* ** *As Limbaugh indicates, the coup is taking many forms. It's embodied in virtually every one of the President's political appointees, including, recently, Harold Koh, the former Yale Law School Dean and now presidential legal advisor who favors the overturn of American law based on our Constitution and its replacement with some version of international law. * ** *But it's also taking the form of what is quickly being revealed to be mandatory acceptance of TARP funds by financial institutions. The bank bailout was never intended to be any such thing, it turns out. Rather, it was a way for the U.S. government to get its claws into the banks in such a way that the banks would never be able to remove them and the government would essentially have centralized control over the U.S. financial system. That's because the new stress test that Treasury Secretary Geithner is applying to banks is designed, not to enable them to pay back TARP funds, but to insure that they must accept even more TARP money, giving the government control over such trivial capitalist foundation principles as the freedom for companies to determine levels of executive compensation.* *And it's also clear that Obama's nationalization of General Motors is very unlikely to result in that company's ever going into bankruptcy, despite the President's words to the contrary. The reason the bankruptcy option hasn't been implemented up to now is that it's Obama's intention to dictate, even more directly than so many of the legislative initiatives that have heretofore helped cripple the American auto industry have done, that GM create green automobiles. Never mind that there's no market for such cars in the U.S.; it's what you should be driving and, damn it, it's what you will be driving. The government is mandating it, and no bankruptcy judge is going to step in and make sensible decisions that might enable the U.S. auto giant to restructure and survive in anything resembling its current form.* *Many people have bemoaned the lack of Republican leadership, and it has certainly been evident. Some have even seen it as a good thing, describing it as a normal part of the process after a resounding electoral defeat such as the ones the GOP suffered last fall. But as the radical shift our new President has in mind for this country begins to take shape, and as the resulting loss of freedom and prosperity it bodes begins to sink in, we're realizing that we've got to start now to reverse this dangerous leftward lurch. * *In addition to winning back enough seats in the Senate in 2010 to remove the threat of a bulletproof 60-vote Democratic majority, we need to find some way to use the capabilities of a man with Petraeus's intelligence and leadership ability to help us turn the tide of the domestic insurgency and restore democracy in the United States. * ** ** -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Inept Moonbats Continue to Suffer From BDS
From: Travis Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2009 Subject: Inept Moonbats Continue to Suffer From BDS http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/04/inept_moonbats.html -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What a pain in the ass ....
Freud hated women, but besides that fact, Chinese foot binding is as barbaric as they come. More women had clubs at the end of their feet than Gangas Kahn had in his military. As for the athletic woman, I can only say for me. Muscle is more attractive than fat or bones. I am tiny, so I am more for the lithe, dancer type body. I don't want to be a mini man; I want to look like a woman. There is a woman at my gym, I am sure every gym has one, who works out 28 hours a week. She does 2 in the morning, and 2 in the evening every day. She is there whenever I am, and then some. Me, 4-6 hours/ week. On Apr 5, 11:19 pm, rigsy03 rigs...@yahoo.com wrote: You might recall Chinese foot binding which crippled women or those Africans with brass neck rings that turned women into giraffes or our 18 inch waists. Whatever. The new vogue is also the athletic woman, the career woman. I am tempted to agree with Freud- What do women want?. On Apr 5, 8:47 am, kd kdlee...@gmail.com wrote: A little exercise would have made anyone look better. Plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures are great for people who are injured due to an accident or birth defect, but people must go to a licensed physician. Even w/ a doctor, there can be major complications. On Apr 5, 7:55 am, RichardForbes richard_forbe...@hotmail.com wrote: A seemingly harmless cosmetic procedure turned deadly for a Bronx woman. She died one day after receiving silicone injections in her thighs, allegedly administered by someone without a medical license. Fiordaliza Pichardo's husband never thought she needed silicone injections to make her more attractive and would often tell her: 'Hey, why you do that? Stop doing that.' She'd tell me, 'Oh let me do this a little bit,' Fausto Rodriguez told CBS 2 HD. And the 43-year old tried to keep her injections secret, especially since they were allegedly being administered by her unlicensed friend, Elsa Then. She trusted this lady so health-wise, no worries, said Kelvin Rodriguez, the victim's son. But the worries became real on March 16 when the family says the woman then paid a visit. I seen the lady and her preparing. What I saw was the towel, Kelvin Rodriguez said. Mother and friend went to the bedroom, where behind closed doors, another injection, this one to the thigh, took place. But then hours later something started to happen to Pichardo. She told me she got problems with her chest, breathing and then she told me she wanted to go the hospital, Fausto Rodriguez said. Pichardo was rushed to the hospital but died the next morning of what the medical examiner's officer said was a silicone pulmonary embolism, caused by so much silicone injected that it was clotting in her lungs. CBS 2 HD caught up with Elsa Then, who told us she's a cosmetologist and that she was questioned by police. When asked if she does silicone injections, she said, No, never. CBS 2 HD: You're telling me you never injected this woman, in the thighs, in the buttocks? Then: Yes, I never did. Then admitted to knowing Pichardo and even visiting her in the hospital, a place where the family says Then could have told doctors about the injection, but never did. She didn't say anything, at all, daughter Marines Rodriguez said. I'm positive. The doctors had no idea. The family admits it, too, didn't tell doctors about the silicone injection because they didn't think there was any connection. Now the connection is all too real -- a silicone injection turning so tragic. We're missing one person. Nobody can replace that hole, Fausto Rodriguez said. Police said so far no arrests have been made, but they are investigating.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
more proof more people should not be allowed on juries
*SEVENTH PLACE* Kathleen Robertson of Austin , Texas was awarded $80,000 by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The store owners were understandably surprised by the verdict, considering the running toddler was her own son. Start scratching! * SIXTH PLACE * Carl Truman, 19, of Los Angeles , California won $74,000 plus medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps. Scratch some more... * FIFTH PLACE * Terrence Dickson, of Bristol , Pennsylvania , who was leaving a house he had just burglarized by way of the garage. Unfortunately for Dickson, the automatic garage door opener malfunctioned and he could not get the garage door to open. Worse, he couldn't re-enter the house because the door connecting the garage to the house locked when Dickson pulled it shut. Forced to sit for eight, count 'em, EIGHT days and survive on a case of Pepsi and a large bag of dry dog food, he sued the homeowner's insurance company claiming undue mental Anguish. Amazingly, the jury said the insurance company must pay Dickson $500,000 for his anguish. We should all have this kind of anguish. Keep scratching. There are more... Double hand scratching after this one... *FOURTH PLACE* Jerry Williams, of Little Rock, Arkansas , garnered 4th Place in the Stella's when he was awarded $14,500 plus medical expenses after being bitten on the butt by his next door neighbor's beagle - even though the beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. Williams did not get as much as he asked for because the jury believed the beagle might have been provoked at the time of the butt bite because Williams had climbed over the fence into the yard and repeatedly shot the dog with a pellet gun. Pick a new spot to scratch, you're getting a bald spot... * THIRD PLACE * Amber Carson of Lancaster , Pennsylvania because a jury ordered a Philadelphia restaurant to pay her $113,500 after she slipped on a spilled soft drink and broke her tailbone. The reason the soft drink was on the floor: Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument. What ever happened to people being responsible for their own actions? Only two more so ease up on the scratching... *SECOND PLACE* Kara Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club in a nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the floor, knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000oh, yeah, plus dental expenses. Go figure. Ok. Here we go! * FIRST PLACE * This year's runaway First Place Stella Award winner was: Mrs. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City , Oklahoma , who purchased new 32-foot Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home, from an OU football game, having driven on to the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the driver's seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner's manual that she couldn't actually leave the driver's seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down? $1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a result of this suit, just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who might also buy a motor home. Are we, as a society, getting more stupid...or are more members of Congress serving on juries these days? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New York Gov. Paterson Bashes Rush, But Rush Is Much More Popular in New York
A company I worked for in Dc in the 80's was audited by a crack team of IRS goons. they spent almost a year auditing just 1 years worth of books and came up with the great finding that the gov't was OVERPAID by 5 CENTS. On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 6:55 AM, bruce majors bruce.maj...@gmail.com wrote: when they audit you 12 years in a row and never prove what they were trying to prove, isn't it just intimidation and censorship after the first year or two? The Clintons audited Bill O'Reilly 3 years in a row On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Ohio mark marsupialm...@sbcglobal.netwrote: When Rush Limbaugh announced he was completely leaving New York, putting his Fifth Avenue condo on the market. Gov. David Paterson joked after a speech on Thursday that If I knew that would be the result, I would’ve thought about the taxes earlier. Over at Radio Equalizer, blogger Brian Maloney reports that Limbaugh is much more popular than Paterson at this point: Rush Limbaugh now ranks number one in New York City among all listeners 12 and older. According to Arbitron, he has an average of 693,000 Big Apple listeners, with the number expected to grow as a result of his recent showdown with the White House Contrast that with Governor Paterson, who according to a recent Siena poll, has seen his popularity plunge. Just 19% of voters now approve of his performance. Only 14% would like to see him elected to a full term, according to the Daily News: ALBANY - Gov. Paterson's job performance ratings have crashed thorough the floor, with less than one in five New Yorkers saying he's doing well, a new poll shows. Just 19% of those polled gave him a positive rating, while 78% turned thumbs down, the Siena College poll found. That's down from 51% positive and 45% negative in the same poll just two months ago. Maloney reported that Limbaugh responded this way: Well, it has happened again, folks. I've always said if you place a bag of manure in front of a Democrat they will certainly step in it, and New York Governor David Paterson certainly has. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/04/03/new-york-gov-paterson-bashes-rush-rush-much-more-popular-new-york -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Monday Toons
Hoo, Boy!!! Even got an insult to the Edsel here. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Cold Water coldwater...@gmail.com wrote: ** -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
LIST OF ABOUT 2,000 TEA PARTY CITIES NATIONWIDE ON APRIL 15TH
From: Travis Date: Mon, Apr 6, 2009 Subject: LIST OF ABOUT 2,000 TEA PARTY CITIES NATIONWIDE ON APRIL 15TH http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/04/list-of-about-2000-tea-party-cities.html -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
O's economic plan
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What happens when you do a Google Image search for obama and poster?
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Constipated? - Here's help
From: *Travis* Date: Sun, Apr 5, 2009 Subject: Constipated? - Here's help -- *If you are bothered by occasional or frequent constipation, look in the mirror and repeat the following phrase three times in succession when symptoms occur:* *My financial and personal well being are totally in the hands of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Geithner, Rahm Emmanuel, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Al Gore* *If that doesn't scare the shit out of you, then you are probably destined to be backed up for the rest of your life.* *There is no need to thank me for this advice; I'm just doing a public service.* -- *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62 * -- Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage1_042009 -- Get there faster with the MapQuest Toolbar. Try it now.http://www.mapquest.com/toolbar?ncid=emlwemqmq0004 __._,_.___ Messageshttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/grendelreport/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdXE0Y3MyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzBHN0aW1lAzEyMzg5NDY0NDA- MARKETPLACE -- From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14knud30c/M=493064.12016295.13271503.10835568/D=groups/S=1705323667:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1238953640/L=/B=SflDDEPDhFk-/J=1238946440724493/K=Nqid.H2YZVtdnsphvPRz.g/A=5530388/R=0/SIG=11nuutlas/*http://explore.yahoo.com/groups/kraftmealsmadesimple/ [image: Yahoo! Groups]http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcDdvYzJyBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTIzODk0NjQ0MA-- Change settings via the Webhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/grendelreport/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJnbnBkam00BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNzdG5ncwRzdGltZQMxMjM4OTQ2NDQw(Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digestgrendelreport-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=email+delivery:+Digest| Switch format to Traditionalgrendelreport-traditio...@yahoogroups.com?subject=change+delivery+format:+Traditional Visit Your Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/grendelreport;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYTJxczNzBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNocGYEc3RpbWUDMTIzODk0NjQ0MA--| Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/| Unsubscribe grendelreport-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject= Recent Activity - 3 New Membershttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/grendelreport/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnNjhnaWFuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMjM4OTQ2NDQw Visit Your Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/grendelreport;_ylc=X3oDMTJma2htNmdjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyMzg5NDY0NDA- Yahoo! Groups Weight Management Challengehttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14itga68t/M=493064.12016300.12445692.11323196/D=groups/S=1705323667:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1238953640/L=/B=S_lDDEPDhFk-/J=1238946440724493/K=Nqid.H2YZVtdnsphvPRz.g/A=5170418/R=0/SIG=11b5gu1oe/*http://new.groups.yahoo.com/specialKgroup Join others who are losing pounds. Yahoo! Groups Dog Lovers Grouphttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14hbl4dif/M=493064.12016263.12445670.8674578/D=groups/S=1705323667:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1238953640/L=/B=TPlDDEPDhFk-/J=1238946440724493/K=Nqid.H2YZVtdnsphvPRz.g/A=5522133/R=0/SIG=11k97shp3/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/domorefordogs/ Connect and share with dog owners like you All-Bran 10 Day Challengehttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14hljhr45/M=493064.12016283.12445687.8674578/D=groups/S=1705323667:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1238953640/L=/B=TflDDEPDhFk-/J=1238946440724493/K=Nqid.H2YZVtdnsphvPRz.g/A=5202323/R=0/SIG=11aijbghb/*http://new.groups.yahoo.com/allbrangroup Join the club and feel the benefits. . __,_._,___ -- *~@):~{ -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Monday Toons
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Re: O's economic plan
And that is about what the plan is Travis wrote: From: Travis Subject: O's economic plan __._,_.___ Messages MARKETPLACE From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 3 New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups Auto Enthusiast Zone Love cars? Check out the Auto Enthusiast Zone All-Bran 10 Day Challenge Join the club and feel the benefits. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. . __,_._,___ -- *~@):~{ -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Odds and Ends - love the G20 map
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I do believe that this woman does not much care for Obama
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NPR explained - and he does make a good point
*Rick Steves, Useful Idiot: *Three weeks ago, the local cooking and old pop music channel http://www.kcts9.org/ held another fund raising drive. To attract donations, they showed, naturally, some of their greatest hits. One of those hits was a propaganda film promoting Iran. The film was not made by the Iranian government, but it could have been. The Iranian regime is one of the nastiest in the world. It persecutes women, dissidents, homosexuals, and ethnic and religious minorities, relentlessly. It issued a fatwa against a novelist, Salman Rushdie, for a book he had written, a fatwa that resulted in a number of deaths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie. The regime has governed Iran badly. Its domestic policies are often incompetent, and its officials are often corrupt. Its oil wealth has largely been wasted. The regime has been relentlessly hostile to the United States since the overthrow of the Shah. It has sponsored a number of terrorist attacks on Americans, as well as many other terrorist attacks. It has supplied weapons and other kinds of aid to the terrorists in Iraq. It is hated by almost all its neighbors in the Middle East. The regime is working frantically to build nuclear weapons, which it has threatened to use on Israel. It has, in other words, genocide as an official national policy. You would have learned none of those things from this propaganda film. Instead, you would have seen one scene after another of smiling Iranians, who may be a little old-fashioned in their religious beliefs, but are otherwise much like us. And I don't doubt that such people exist, and that many of them are genuinely friendly to Americans, as individuals. It is even possible that some of the people we were shown in the film are such people, but since Steves' itinerary was completely under the control of the Iranian regime, we can not know that, for certain. Oddly enough, Steves at times seems to recognize that he is on a guided tour, a tour run by a nasty regime. From time to time, he notes that the officials he sees act much like Soviet officials before the fall of the Soviet Union. But Steves does not draw the obvious conclusion from that observation, that his film is necessarily misleading. Or --- and I hate to suggest this --- perhaps he does know that his film is misleading, and is not bothered by that fact, indeed is pleased by that fact, because he intended to make a propaganda film. In introducing the film, the host said that PBS has shows that respect your intellect. That may be so, but Rick Steves' Iranian propaganda film is not one of them. Instead, it shows a contempt for the viewer's intellect, assuming that we can be fooled by scenes of smiling Iranians, fooled into ignoring the nature of this terrible regime. A regime, I repeat, that has threatened a small nation with genocide. Cross posted at Sound Politics http://soundpolitics.com/. (You can see an interview of Steves about the film here http://www.kcts9.org/video/rick-steves-iran. At several points in the film, Steves revealed shocking ignorance of history and the Middle East. At one point, he said that Alexander the Great turned the tide against the Persians. Steves apparently has not heard of the battle of Salamis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Salamis (480 BC), or the battle of Plataea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataea (479 BC). After those two battles, the Greeks had the edge over the Persians, though Persian rulers were able to keep the Greeks in check, by playing them off against each other. Alexander was not even born until 356 BC, and his first great victory against the Persians, the battle of the Granicus River http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Granicus, was in 334 BC. He did not turn the tide in that battle; he used the Greek military superiority that had been demonstrated almost five decades earlier. At another point in the film, Steves asked an Iranian a question about the war with Iraq, and implied, in his question, that he thought it had been a religious war between the Shiites in Iran and the Sunnis in Iraq. In fact, both countries are predominately Shiite, and the war was an attack by Saddam Hussein on his neighbor, at a time when he thought (with some reason) that Iran was militarily weak. Ordinarily, as you probably know, I prefer to avoid name calling. But I think that useful idiot is appropriate here. The phrase, which is often, but incorrectly, ascribed to Lenin, does describe a certain kind of Westerner, a person who is all too willing to serve up propaganda from an evil regime, and all too willing to ignore the cruel facts about that regime. I call Rick Steves a useful idiot because he deserves to be called a useful idiot. Finally, one chuckle. The host of the fund raising program asked Steves just one question after the film was over --- about the quality of the food in
The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty
As soon as cancer was found, we noticed the immediate attempt at canonization of old Teddy by the main stream media. They are saying what a great American he is. I say, let's get a couple things clear and not twist the facts to change the real history. 1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him. 2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops, the man can't count to four. His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea, where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him like he charged President Bush received. 3. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's keys to his Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Poucha Pond. 4. He swam to shore and walked back to the party, after passing several houses and a fire station. Then two friends returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew, that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. The Kennedy family began calling in favors, ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne, and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident, Kennedy's political enemies have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy, and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy's family paid their attorney's bills... A token of friendship? 5. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. Immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries. 6. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of and increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the Pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court Nominees, as if he were the standard bearer for the nation in matters of right. Let's not allow the spin doctors make this jerk a hero -- how quickly the American public forgets what his real legacy is... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Our boy don't play around
Brady's Brazilian Bride's Bodyguards' Big Bullets Hey, everyone knows it's not really a party until your security detail takes a couple potshots http://www.bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view.bg?articleid=1163706 at the paparazzi. Two paparazzi say they narrowly escaped death when Brazilian supermodel Gisele Bundchen's security guards fired at them outside her beachside wedding to Patriots QB/QT Tom Brady in Costa Rica Saturday. No one was reported hurt in the incident, but Costa Rica police are investigating. [...] No one was hurt, but one of their cars was messed up, the INF [picture agency] spokesman said. The photo agency posted pictures of a photographer standing by an SUV with a shattered back windshield. A second picture shows the photographer holding a 38 mm bullet. Man, they pack some serious heat in Costa Rica! posted by Bruce --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty
I take it you don't think much of our waitress sandwich boy Teddums. Shame, that. And I agree. Philobealo wrote: As soon as cancer was found, we noticed the immediate attempt at canonization of old Teddy by the main stream media. They are saying what a great American he is. I say, let's get a couple things clear and not twist the facts to change the real history. 1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him. 2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops, the man can't count to four. His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea, where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him like he charged President Bush received. 3. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's keys to his Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Poucha Pond. 4. He swam to shore and walked back to the party, after passing several houses and a fire station. Then two friends returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew, that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. The Kennedy family began calling in favors, ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne, and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident, Kennedy's political enemies have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy, and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy's family paid their attorney's bills... A token of friendship? 5. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. Immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries. 6. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of and increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the Pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court Nominees, as if he were the standard bearer for the nation in matters of right. Let's not allow the spin doctors make this jerk a hero -- how quickly the American public forgets what his real legacy is... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Yellow-Belly Cops
It's become a familiar scene, cops pulled away from shaking down citizens on public roadways, to confronting the reason they were hired - in this case, an armed asshole inside a Binghamton building shooting down the same people taser-happy cops love to shake down on the streets. You know the routine; cops loading their guns, then reloading their guns, checking their vests, re-tying their shoelaces, adjusting their battle helmets, gabbing on the radio, re-loading their guns, checking their shoelaces, hiding behind police cars, frozen behind trees... wishing they could just issue another ticket instead of heaving up their allotment of donuts. Yup, real tough guys. [Q] - Binghamton Police Chief Joseph Zikuski, who was on the scene of the shooting and in command within a few minutes of the 9-11 call is on the defensive. People are asking the obvious questions: -- Why did police wait an hour or more to enter the building, even though the shooting was over by the time they got there two minutes after a critically wounded receptionist called 9-11? -- Would any of the 13 gunshot victims who died have been saved by prompt emergency treatment? - http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/2009/04/outside-authorities-should-review-slow.html The county prosecutor has jumped in to back the Chief with some sweeping assertions that some people are going to find hard to accept: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Who ordered another Texan
LBJ,or more specifically Lady Bird, were profiteers off corporate statism. He used his political connections to have the FCC award him valuable broadcast licenses taken away from others On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Travis baconl...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about an insult to LBJ. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:07 PM, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.netwrote: *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Who ordered another Texan
I remember that well. He did it for the stations that were left to Lady Bird. He was a real piece of work. Crooked as the day is long and so were a lot of his employees. We are still suffering from the Bill Moyers krep. He was a POS then and still is but he tries to act as if he is so ethical. I cannot wait for him to get off the air. bruce majors wrote: LBJ,or more specifically Lady Bird, were profiteers off corporate statism. He used his political connections to have the FCC award him valuable broadcast licenses taken away from others On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Travis baconl...@gmail.com mailto:baconl...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about an insult to LBJ. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:07 PM, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net mailto:rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Who ordered another Texan
KLBJ On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, bruce majors bruce.maj...@gmail.com wrote: LBJ,or more specifically Lady Bird, were profiteers off corporate statism. He used his political connections to have the FCC award him valuable broadcast licenses taken away from others On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Travis baconl...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about an insult to LBJ. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:07 PM, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.netwrote: *~@):~{ -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Showing Suicidal Ignorance: Most in Poll Back Outreach to Muslims
From: *Travis* Date: Mon, Apr 6, 2009 Subject: Showing Suicidal Ignorance: Most in Poll Back Outreach to Muslims http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/05/AR2009040501586.html?wprss=rss_politics *Most in Poll Back Outreach to Muslims * By Jon Cohen and Jennifer Agiesta Washington Post Staff Writers Monday, April 6, 2009; A10 Most Americans think President Obama's pledge to seek a new way forward with the Muslim world is an important goal, even as nearly half hold negative views about Islam and a sizable number say that even mainstream adherents to the religion encourage violence against non-Muslims, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll. There is still a broad lack of familiarity with the world's second-largest religion -- 55 percent of those polled said they are without a basic understanding of the teachings and beliefs of Islam, and most said they do not know anyone who is Muslim. While awareness has increased in recent years, underlying views have not improved. About half, 48 percent, said they have an unfavorable view of Islam, the highest in polls since late 2001. Nearly three in 10, or 29 percent, said they see mainstream Islam as advocating violence against non-Muslims; although more, 58 percent, said it is a peaceful religion. Muslims make up about 1 percent of all U.S. adults. Majorities of Americans with sympathetic and unsympathetic views about Islam said it is important for the president to try to improve U.S. relations with Muslim nations, with those holding more positive views much more likely to call those moves very important. In his inaugural address, Obama extended an offer to leaders of unfriendly Muslim nations that the United States will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist. Overall, nearly two-thirds said Obama, who arrived yesterday in Ankara, Turkey, will handle the diplomatic mission about right. Nearly a quarter, though, said he will probably go too far. Nine percent said it is more likely he will not go far enough. Nearly half of Republicans said Obama is apt to overreach in his efforts to advance U.S. relations, while large majorities of Democrats and independents said they think he will walk the right line. Republicans are also more apt than others to hold negative attitudes toward Islam, with six in 10 having unfavorable views, compared with about four in 10 for Democrats and independents. Among conservative Republicans, 65 percent view Islam unfavorably; liberal Democrats, in contrast, are 60 percent positive. This partisan divide is also apparent on the question of whether mainstream Islam encourages hostility toward non-Muslims, with Republicans about twice as likely as Democrats to say it does. Nearly half of conservative Republicans see centrist Islam as a promoter of violence. Perceptions of Islam as a peaceful faith are the highest among non-religious Americans, with about two-thirds holding that view. Among Catholics, 60 percent see mainstream Islam as a peaceful faith; it is 55 percent among all Protestants, but drops to 48 percent among white evangelical Protestants. There are deep divisions in perceptions of Islam between younger and older Americans as well: More than six in 10 younger than 65 said Islam is a peaceful religion, but that drops to 39 percent among seniors. As in previous surveys, unfamiliarity breeds skepticism: 53 percent of those who profess an understanding of some Islamic teachings view the religion favorably, compared with 31 percent of those who said they do not have that fluency. Those who have such a background are also significantly more likely to see the religion as peaceful. Similar patterns exist for those who know a Muslim. And views of Islam are more positive among those with more formal education. In a Pew poll in March, 11 percent of Americans mistakenly identified Obama as a Muslim, about the same proportion to do so during the presidential campaign. The Post-ABC poll was conducted by telephone March 26-29 among a national random sample of 1,000 adults. The results have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. “Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and -- thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence never solves anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler would referee. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor; and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms.” --Robert A. Heinlein __._,_.___ Messageshttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/grendelreport/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNHI1aHFlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzBHN0aW1lAzEyMzkwMjI1NzI- MARKETPLACE -- From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group
A Tour of Dixie
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Harvard Chaplain Suports Death for Islamic Apostates
From: *Travis* Date: Sat, Apr 4, 2009 Subject: Harvard Chaplain Suports Death for Islamic Apostates He has to if he's a Muslim...that's the Islamic law. B http://talkislam.info/2009/04/03/on-the-listservs-there-is-an-uproar-dev/#mo re-5933 On the listservs, there is an uproar developing over comments made by Harvard Muslim Chaplain Taha Abdul-Basser (his blogger profile here) in response to an email query about apostasy stating that apostates should be killed - though they can only be killed by a legitimate Muslim governmental authority and can not be performed by non-state, private actors. Concerned Muslims who are Harvard alums (or not) are being encouraged to write to Harvard and complain. Some are calling for his removal. Below the fold, the message fragment that is being forwarded around: There is a vibrant Muslim community at Harvard. They have a Muslim chaplain, employed by Harvard and loved and respected by Muslims all around Boston. His name is Taha Abdul-Basser. He gives Friday sermons, is invited to talks and to him local Muslims go when they need religious advice. Rarely does any one voice disagreement with him. Recently, Muslim students as MIT had a disagreement on what Islam has to say on apostasy. Fortunately, some one from Harvard was able to get Brother Taha's opinion on this. Enjoy. assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah here is Brother Taha's response on apostasy. he also suggested contacting two other people and if they get back, inshaAllah i will fwd the responses. Wa-`alaykum as-salam Taha Abdul-Basser: Wa-iyyakum. I am familiar with these types of discussions. While I understand that will happen and that there is some benefit in them, in the main, it would be better if people were to withhold from _debating_ such things, since they tend not to have the requisite familiarity with issues and competence to deal with them. Debating about religious matter is impermissible, in general, and people rarely observe the etiquette of disagreements. There are a few places on the Net where one can find informed discussions of this issue (Search [Abdul Hakim Murad|Faraz Rabbani AND apostasy]) . The preponderant position in all of the 4 sunni madhahib (and apparently others of the remaining eight according to one contemporary `alim) is that the verdict is capital punishment. Of concern for us is that this can only occur in the_domain and under supervision of Muslim governmental authority and can not be performed by non-state, private actors._ Some contemporary thought leaders have emphasized the differing views (i.e. not capital punishment) that a few fuqaha' in the last few centuries apparently held on this issue, including reportedly the senior Ottoman religious authority during the Tanzimat period and Al-Azhar in the modern period. Still others go further and attempt to elaborate on the argument that the indicants (such as the hadith: (whoever changes his religion, execute him) used to build the traditional position apply only to treason in the political sense and therefore in the absence of a political reality in which apostasy is both forsaking the community and akin to political treasons in the modern sense, the indicants do not indicate capital punishment. I am not aware of `Allama Taqiy al-Din Ibn Taymiya's position on this issue but much is attributed to him by both detractors and supporters so one should be wary of accepting things attributed to him without asking experts. Perhaps you can ask Ustadh Sharif el-Tobgui or Shaykh Yasir Qadhi (I am copying both), both of whom are Ibn Taymiya specialists. I would finally note that there is great wisdom (hikma) associated with the established and preserved position (capital punishment) and so, even if it makes some uncomfortable in the face of the hegemonic modern human rights discourse, one should not dismiss it out of hand. The formal consideration of excuses for the accused and the absence of Muslim governmental authority in our case here in the North/West is for dealing with the issue practically. And Allah knows best. Wa s-salam. Taha __._,_.___ Messageshttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/grendelreport/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZGdnb25pBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzBHN0aW1lAzEyMzg4NjU2MjQ- MARKETPLACE -- From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14kghmtiv/M=493064.12016295.13271503.10835568/D=groups/S=1705323667:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1238872824/L=/B=jQ_QCUPDhE4-/J=1238865624899215/K=gMpDh8DLxnSI3i4aPcJ3Mg/A=5530388/R=0/SIG=11nuutlas/*http://explore.yahoo.com/groups/kraftmealsmadesimple/ [image: Yahoo! Groups]http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJldGxudWkwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTIzODg2NTYyNA-- Change settings via the
WELCOME TO OBAMERICA: HOMELAND SECURITY BANS ATLAS
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Re: The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty
I will be happy when I can use a picture of his tombstone on my dartboard. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:06 AM, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.netwrote: I take it you don't think much of our waitress sandwich boy Teddums. Shame, that. And I agree. Philobealo wrote: As soon as cancer was found, we noticed the immediate attempt at canonization of old Teddy by the main stream media. They are saying what a great American he is. I say, let's get a couple things clear and not twist the facts to change the real history. 1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him. 2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops, the man can't count to four. His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea, where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him like he charged President Bush received. 3. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's keys to his Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Poucha Pond. 4. He swam to shore and walked back to the party, after passing several houses and a fire station. Then two friends returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew, that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. The Kennedy family began calling in favors, ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne, and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident, Kennedy's political enemies have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy, and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy's family paid their attorney's bills... A token of friendship? 5. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. Immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries. 6. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of and increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the Pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court Nominees, as if he were the standard bearer for the nation in matters of right. Let's not allow the spin doctors make this jerk a hero -- how quickly the American public forgets what his real legacy is... -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Does North Korea Rocket Launch Mean The End Of Israel?
Does North Korea Rocket Launch Mean The End Of Israel? I remember the last major war in the Middle East, the six day war. Most all of the Arab countries swarmed into Israel and were largely successful for a time. It looked like Israel was going down for awhile, and there were rumors Israel was going to use it's nuclear arsenal that it already had then. And North Korea was one of the nations allied against Israel. That's why Israel hates North Korea so much and doesn't want it acquiring nuclear bombs and rocket capability. But the reality is that now North Korea has probably several dozen nuclear bombs, they have advanced long range rocket capability, they even have a fleet of submarines capable of launching cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. What that means is that in a future Arab-Israeli conflict North Korea could launch one or more rockets toward Israel with MIRVs hitting all the cities of Israel, and at the same time launch nuclear warheads on faster than the speed of sound cruise missiles from submarines. The days of Israel bullying it's neighbors is about over because the Arabs now have a strong nuclear armed ally that can even the playing field. http://www.squidoo.com/tithes-and-offerings --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yellow-Belly Cops
Interesting commentary D.B. What I find interesting, and C.W. hit on this yesterday, (I think it was C.W.) is that the media (who is in the tank for any liberal cause celebre') is now focusing on these purported, rash of shootings; that I surmise are no different than they were three weeks ago, or three years ago. The sole purpose is to restrict Americans inalienable right to own and possess firearms. We know that many in the Progressive-Democratic-Feel Good Obama Administration have set this agenda as one of their goals during their one term Adminstration. Folks like Israeli operative and professed Socialist Rahm Emanuel, Hil Clinton, Bella Pelosi and a cabal of other Anti-American Congressmen and Congresswomen are dead set on doing away with the Constitution of the United States. We all should be up in arms, and all the more reason for each and every American to show up on April 15th to the closest T.E.A. Party near you. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM, d.b.baker rth...@yahoo.com wrote: It's become a familiar scene, cops pulled away from shaking down citizens on public roadways, to confronting the reason they were hired - in this case, an armed asshole inside a Binghamton building shooting down the same people taser-happy cops love to shake down on the streets. You know the routine; cops loading their guns, then reloading their guns, checking their vests, re-tying their shoelaces, adjusting their battle helmets, gabbing on the radio, re-loading their guns, checking their shoelaces, hiding behind police cars, frozen behind trees... wishing they could just issue another ticket instead of heaving up their allotment of donuts. Yup, real tough guys. [Q] - Binghamton Police Chief Joseph Zikuski, who was on the scene of the shooting and in command within a few minutes of the 9-11 call is on the defensive. People are asking the obvious questions: -- Why did police wait an hour or more to enter the building, even though the shooting was over by the time they got there two minutes after a critically wounded receptionist called 9-11? -- Would any of the 13 gunshot victims who died have been saved by prompt emergency treatment? - http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/2009/04/outside-authorities-should-review-slow.html The county prosecutor has jumped in to back the Chief with some sweeping assertions that some people are going to find hard to accept: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Monday Toons
LOL! I caught the Edsel too! Thanks for sharing these CW!! I clipped the Join The Democrats, This Way To Socialism poster..I have a feeling that this is liable to show up frequently in some of my posts!!! On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Cold Water coldwater...@gmail.com wrote: *I absolutely LOVED that one!* ** *CW* - Original Message - *From:* Travis baconl...@gmail.com *To:* PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2009 08:37 *Subject:* Re: Monday Toons Hoo, Boy!!! Even got an insult to the Edsel here. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Cold Water coldwater...@gmail.com wrote: ** --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Does North Korea Rocket Launch Mean The End Of Israel?
Good Morning RW! I had not heard that North Korea is this advanced, especially with regard to its nuclear capabilities, and equally with its missile technologies. Do you have anything that supports your conclusions? I haven't seen the United States' complete assessment of how this long range missile fared from the weekend, but initial indications sound like they still have a long way to go. I also understand that the best assessment with North Korea's nuclear arsenal is more like three or four weapons, far less than ten, and that they are nominal in comparison to what was even detonated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki over sixty years ago. I could be wrong, but I still believe that if push came to shove, these weapons could be targeted for destruction now, but I have nothing to support this conclusion, just different articles that I have read within the last two or three months.. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM, RW rogerwbo...@yahoo.com wrote: Does North Korea Rocket Launch Mean The End Of Israel? I remember the last major war in the Middle East, the six day war. Most all of the Arab countries swarmed into Israel and were largely successful for a time. It looked like Israel was going down for awhile, and there were rumors Israel was going to use it's nuclear arsenal that it already had then. And North Korea was one of the nations allied against Israel. That's why Israel hates North Korea so much and doesn't want it acquiring nuclear bombs and rocket capability. But the reality is that now North Korea has probably several dozen nuclear bombs, they have advanced long range rocket capability, they even have a fleet of submarines capable of launching cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. What that means is that in a future Arab-Israeli conflict North Korea could launch one or more rockets toward Israel with MIRVs hitting all the cities of Israel, and at the same time launch nuclear warheads on faster than the speed of sound cruise missiles from submarines. The days of Israel bullying it's neighbors is about over because the Arabs now have a strong nuclear armed ally that can even the playing field. http://www.squidoo.com/tithes-and-offerings --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Re: Does North Korea Rocket Launch Mean The End Of Israel?
I've heard North Korea already has at least 20 nuclear bombs and has a fleet of nuclear submarines armed with cruise missiles bought from Russia. That's exactly why the United States won't bother North Korea, because unlike Iraq they really have advanced weapons of mass destruction they're capable of using. On Apr 6, 10:42 am, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning RW! I had not heard that North Korea is this advanced, especially with regard to its nuclear capabilities, and equally with its missile technologies. Do you have anything that supports your conclusions? I haven't seen the United States' complete assessment of how this long range missile fared from the weekend, but initial indications sound like they still have a long way to go. I also understand that the best assessment with North Korea's nuclear arsenal is more like three or four weapons, far less than ten, and that they are nominal in comparison to what was even detonated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki over sixty years ago. I could be wrong, but I still believe that if push came to shove, these weapons could be targeted for destruction now, but I have nothing to support this conclusion, just different articles that I have read within the last two or three months.. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM, RW rogerwbo...@yahoo.com wrote: Does North Korea Rocket Launch Mean The End Of Israel? I remember the last major war in the Middle East, the six day war. Most all of the Arab countries swarmed into Israel and were largely successful for a time. It looked like Israel was going down for awhile, and there were rumors Israel was going to use it's nuclear arsenal that it already had then. And North Korea was one of the nations allied against Israel. That's why Israel hates North Korea so much and doesn't want it acquiring nuclear bombs and rocket capability. But the reality is that now North Korea has probably several dozen nuclear bombs, they have advanced long range rocket capability, they even have a fleet of submarines capable of launching cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. What that means is that in a future Arab-Israeli conflict North Korea could launch one or more rockets toward Israel with MIRVs hitting all the cities of Israel, and at the same time launch nuclear warheads on faster than the speed of sound cruise missiles from submarines. The days of Israel bullying it's neighbors is about over because the Arabs now have a strong nuclear armed ally that can even the playing field. http://www.squidoo.com/tithes-and-offerings- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Philobealo wrote: 5. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. Immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries. 6. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of and increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. = Well said Philo If I could improve on this brief resume' of Senator Kennedy, I would emphasize how this man almost single handedly changed the face of our Nation with his 1964 Immigration Bill, and his continuous push for allowing illegal immigrants into this Nation. Just as bad, was the Kennedy-Kassenbaum Bill, which single handedly took away the scienter element, the *mens rea*; aspect from Doctors who were taking patients who were covered by Medicaid and/or Medicare. Yesterday, there was a thread on another board that talked about the number of doctors and health care providers who refused to accept patients who were covered under Medicaid or Medicare. The Kennedy Kassenbaum Bill is the cause of this, because the distinction of whether a Doctor (or his office) intended to, or whether they knowingly and intentionally attempted to defraud the government doesn't matter anymore.If there is a mistake, the penalty is the same as if you intentionally attempted to defraud the government. Thanks Ted, for all that you have done for our Nation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Re: Does North Korea Rocket Launch Mean The End Of Israel?
Hey RW! I don't doubt you whatsoever, but I would love to see any articles on this subject, and when I have a moment I will look for something that documents or attempts to document what North Korea's nuclear capabilities are along with its missile technology. If you run into anything, please post it!! Thanks!! Keith On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM, RW rogerwbo...@yahoo.com wrote: I've heard North Korea already has at least 20 nuclear bombs and has a fleet of nuclear submarines armed with cruise missiles bought from Russia. That's exactly why the United States won't bother North Korea, because unlike Iraq they really have advanced weapons of mass destruction they're capable of using. On Apr 6, 10:42 am, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning RW! I had not heard that North Korea is this advanced, especially with regard to its nuclear capabilities, and equally with its missile technologies. Do you have anything that supports your conclusions? I haven't seen the United States' complete assessment of how this long range missile fared from the weekend, but initial indications sound like they still have a long way to go. I also understand that the best assessment with North Korea's nuclear arsenal is more like three or four weapons, far less than ten, and that they are nominal in comparison to what was even detonated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki over sixty years ago. I could be wrong, but I still believe that if push came to shove, these weapons could be targeted for destruction now, but I have nothing to support this conclusion, just different articles that I have read within the last two or three months.. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM, RW rogerwbo...@yahoo.com wrote: Does North Korea Rocket Launch Mean The End Of Israel? I remember the last major war in the Middle East, the six day war. Most all of the Arab countries swarmed into Israel and were largely successful for a time. It looked like Israel was going down for awhile, and there were rumors Israel was going to use it's nuclear arsenal that it already had then. And North Korea was one of the nations allied against Israel. That's why Israel hates North Korea so much and doesn't want it acquiring nuclear bombs and rocket capability. But the reality is that now North Korea has probably several dozen nuclear bombs, they have advanced long range rocket capability, they even have a fleet of submarines capable of launching cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. What that means is that in a future Arab-Israeli conflict North Korea could launch one or more rockets toward Israel with MIRVs hitting all the cities of Israel, and at the same time launch nuclear warheads on faster than the speed of sound cruise missiles from submarines. The days of Israel bullying it's neighbors is about over because the Arabs now have a strong nuclear armed ally that can even the playing field. http://www.squidoo.com/tithes-and-offerings- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Amazingly a correspondent claims that Republicans are more likely to encourage cop-killers
[Jim Lindgren, April 6, 2009 at 5:12am http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_04_05-2009_04_11.shtml#1239009165] Trackbacks http://technorati.com/search/http%3a%2f%2fvolokh.com%2farchives%2farchive_2009_04_05%2d2009_04_11.shtml%231239009165 Oliver Willis on Republicans Encouraging Cop-killers. It is highly odd that Oliver Willis would attribute murdering cops http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/04/05/truth-stings/to those who hold Republican views http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_04_05-2009_04_11.shtml#1239004924. ARREST RATES. In the debates over whether felons can vote, both Republicans and Democrats seem to agree implicitly that felons will tend to favor Democrats. I have never heard anyone even hint the opposite. That is consistent with General Social Survey data showing that the odds of a Democrat or Independent reporting having been arrested or charged with a crime are 122% higher than the odds of a Republican reporting being arrested or charged with a crime. Among those who report having been arrested or charged, only 12% are Republicans. The others are 9% Independent, leaning Republican; 18% Independent (no leans); 18% Independent, leaning Democratic; 40% Democrats. (Of course, arrest is not the same as offending or conviction, but the political makeup is likely to be in the same general direction.) I am aware of no data on the party identification of murderers in general or of cop-killers in particular, but there is no reason to suppose that the political orientation of cop-killers is any more Republican than the general criminal population, which everyone assumes (and GSS data indirectly suggests) is disproportionately Democratic. ANGER AND HAPPINESS. As to anger and happiness, in the GSS Republicans report being much happier, being less likely to be angry at someone, and less likely to be mad at someone or something. When angry, their anger lasts less time, and they are less likely to plot revenge. Compared to non-Democrats, on the other hand, Democrats report being somewhat less happy and when angry, their anger tends to last longer. On being angry at someone, being mad at someone or something, and plotting revenge, the results are not significant because Independents are (usually insignificantly) more extreme than Democrats on these issues). I don't know whether Democratic views cause criminality or anger -- frankly, I doubt it. The likelier causal direction is that unhappiness with one's lot in business and in life tends to make someone Democratic, a probable example of what social psychologists call motivated social cognition. Related Posts (on one page http://volokh.com/posts/chain_1239004924.shtml): 1. Oliver Willis on Republicans Encouraging Cop-killers. 2. Redistibutionists tend to be Angry and to Plot Revenge. http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_04_05-2009_04_11.shtml#1239004924 [Jim Lindgren, April 6, 2009 at 4:02am http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_04_05-2009_04_11.shtml#1239004924] Trackbacks http://technorati.com/search/http%3a%2f%2fvolokh.com%2farchives%2farchive_2009_04_05%2d2009_04_11.shtml%231239004924 Redistibutionists tend to be Angry and to Plot Revenge. Oliver Willis expands on the views http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/04/05/truth-stings/of Kos, arguing that Glenn Reynolds http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/75672/chose the side of the political aisle that encourages people to shoot cops: The conservative blogs are enraged that people are pointing out that they have and are stoking the fires of an atmosphere of hate that leads to police officers getting killed. As I've written for years, this is part of their pattern of behavior in America and for too long we've accepted their verbal diarrhea and incitements to violence as honest political dialogue and not the insanity it is. . . . Its days like this I'm glad that when I was deciding what side of the political aisle I wanted to be on, I didn't make the same mistake as Glenn Reynolds and choose the one where we encourage people to shoot cops. In taking apart Kos's views, Confederate Yankee is too generous http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/285479.phpto the Kos/Willis position: Anger, is an emotion. It is apolitical and amoral, neither right nor wrong nor identifiable with a party affiliation. It is how a person choses to channel anger into action that defines him as good or evil or benign. This is true, but there are patterns in opinions and attitudes. I discuss some of them in Testing Social Dominance: Is Support for Capitalism and Opposition to Income Redistribution Driven by Racism and Intolerance?, a chapter of my Ph.D. thesis that I've presented at faculty workshops at Yale and the Univ. of Chicago, as well as academic conferences. An earlier version can be downloaded here http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=945932. Contrary to the prevailing view
Re: Yellow-Belly Cops
Tea parties are nice, even in numbers, but fall far short of the necessary action. Personally, I've never put much stock in half measures. No, a thoroughly corrupted government calls for the full... measure. On Apr 6, 11:29 am, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting commentary D.B. What I find interesting, and C.W. hit on this yesterday, (I think it was C.W.) is that the media (who is in the tank for any liberal cause celebre') is now focusing on these purported, rash of shootings; that I surmise are no different than they were three weeks ago, or three years ago. The sole purpose is to restrict Americans inalienable right to own and possess firearms. We know that many in the Progressive-Democratic-Feel Good Obama Administration have set this agenda as one of their goals during their one term Adminstration. Folks like Israeli operative and professed Socialist Rahm Emanuel, Hil Clinton, Bella Pelosi and a cabal of other Anti-American Congressmen and Congresswomen are dead set on doing away with the Constitution of the United States. We all should be up in arms, and all the more reason for each and every American to show up on April 15th to the closest T.E.A. Party near you. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM, d.b.baker rth...@yahoo.com wrote: It's become a familiar scene, cops pulled away from shaking down citizens on public roadways, to confronting the reason they were hired - in this case, an armed asshole inside a Binghamton building shooting down the same people taser-happy cops love to shake down on the streets. You know the routine; cops loading their guns, then reloading their guns, checking their vests, re-tying their shoelaces, adjusting their battle helmets, gabbing on the radio, re-loading their guns, checking their shoelaces, hiding behind police cars, frozen behind trees... wishing they could just issue another ticket instead of heaving up their allotment of donuts. Yup, real tough guys. [Q] - Binghamton Police Chief Joseph Zikuski, who was on the scene of the shooting and in command within a few minutes of the 9-11 call is on the defensive. People are asking the obvious questions: -- Why did police wait an hour or more to enter the building, even though the shooting was over by the time they got there two minutes after a critically wounded receptionist called 9-11? -- Would any of the 13 gunshot victims who died have been saved by prompt emergency treatment? - http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/2009/04/outside-authorities-shoul... The county prosecutor has jumped in to back the Chief with some sweeping assertions that some people are going to find hard to accept: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
The Case Against Koh
[Eric Posner, April 6, 2009 at 11:16am http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_04_05-2009_04_11.shtml#1239031002] Trackbacks http://technorati.com/search/http%3a%2f%2fvolokh.com%2farchives%2farchive_2009_04_05%2d2009_04_11.shtml%231239031002 The Case Against Koh... disputed. The debate about his nomination to legal advisor at State so far features a breathless New York Post article http://www.nypost.com/seven/03302009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obamas_most_perilous_legal_pick_161961.htm?page=1, a bland and uninformative Times article http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/us/politics/02koh.html?_r=1hpw, an indignant piece http://www.slate.com/id/2215142/in Slate, and much huffing and puffing by bloggers who, with a small number of honorable exceptions, have refrained from discussing Koh's ideas. Koh is best known for his defense of what he calls transnational legal process, a somewhat ill-defined concept that refers to the process by which international legal norms enter domestic law. When the president ratifies a treaty with senate consent, the treaty becomes a part of American law; if the treaty is self-executing, courts will enforce its provisions. Congress can also adopt international law by statute. Common law courts, including federal courts using their limited common law powers, are free to draw on international and foreign law for inspiration, and often do. And federal courts sometimes rely on norms of international law for the purpose of interpreting ambiguous statutes and, more controversially (because they are so hard for legislatures to change), constitutional provisions such as the eighth amendment. The observation that courts do these things is not controversial. The significance of these practices is open to question. In Koh's work, transnational legal process explains why nation states comply with international law despite the absence of international legal enforcement mechanisms. He thinks that transnational litigation---along with other bureaucratic and diplomatic processes---causes states to internalize international law. Judges, bureaucrats, elected officials, and the other people who make decisions on behalf of states become habituated (by a process that Koh does not explain) into complying with international law, and so cause states to obey international law even when a cost-benefit analysis would indicate that violation of a particular international legal norm serves a state's interest. Koh argues by example and in his hands every example turns into a homily about the wisdom of, invariably, liberal norms of international law, the futility of resisting them, and the retrograde attitude of the United States (particularly, Republican administrations). The Reagan administration junks the ABM treaty but then transnational legal process compels the United States to retreat during the Clinton administration. (Koh made this argument before Bush II tore up the treaty.) The Reagan administration mines Nicaragua's harbors and disregards an adverse judgment from the International Court of Justice, yet this judgment mobilizes popular opinion that forces Reagan to pull in his horns. (This account is largely baloney http://www.ericposner.com/International%20Law%20and%20the%20Disaggregated%20State.pdf.) The U.S. government kidnaps a criminal suspect from Mexico but then pays the price in domestic litigation and backs away from this practice (except when it doesn't). The U.S. refuses to enter the Landmines treaty but nonetheless finds itself succumbing to anti-landmines pressure. Americans support the death penalty but international law frowns upon it, and eventually the Supreme Court cites foreign and international law in the course of striking down capital punishment for people who are mentally retarded or who committed capital crimes while juveniles. For Koh, these examples and others like them show that international law does not merely influence domestic law when the U.S. government says so---something that no one doubts or objects to. International law also affects domestic law in the teeth of opposition by the elected officials of the U.S. government, often in ways that are indirect and hard to observe. That is why international law doesn't need an external enforcement mechanism to be effective. And this is a good thing, according to Koh. We should show a decent respect to the opinions of mankind, and somehow we end up doing this even when we vote for politicians with the opposite impulse---all thanks to transnational legal process. This brings us to the Shariah discussion at the Yale Club in New York, which started the debate. It wouldn't surprise me if someone asked that question---whether U.S. courts would have to enforce Shariah. It is the obvious sort of question that anyone who hears Koh's ideas would ask. What if the opinions of mankind, as embodied in international or foreign law or simply international opinion,
Re: The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty
From a friend of mine: herein lies the caveat - Sen Kennedy doesn't live in the 'nation' he lives in his very own, gated, exclusive world known as Hyannisport Compound which sits on Nantucket Bay Keith In Tampa wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Philobealo wrote: 5. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. Immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries. 6. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of and increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. = Well said Philo If I could improve on this brief resume' of Senator Kennedy, I would emphasize how this man almost single handedly changed the face of our Nation with his 1964 Immigration Bill, and his continuous push for allowing illegal immigrants into this Nation. Just as bad, was the Kennedy-Kassenbaum Bill, which single handedly took away the scienter element, the /mens rea/; aspect from Doctors who were taking patients who were covered by Medicaid and/or Medicare. Yesterday, there was a thread on another board that talked about the number of doctors and health care providers who refused to accept patients who were covered under Medicaid or Medicare. The Kennedy Kassenbaum Bill is the cause of this, because the distinction of whether a Doctor (or his office) intended to, or whether they knowingly and intentionally attempted to defraud the government doesn't matter anymore.If there is a mistake, the penalty is the same as if you intentionally attempted to defraud the government. Thanks Ted, for all that you have done for our Nation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
The epitome of a republican cop killer
Supreme Court Rejects Beloved Leftwing Cop Killer Liberal icon The idiotic left has impeccable timing. While they were getting their rocks off over the weekend with the absurd claim that conservatives want to shoot cops, they fail to look at their own long history of supporting cop killers. Well, look who's back in the news today: The left's favorite cop killer. Mumia Abu-Jamal has lost his bid for a new trial in the killing of a Philadelphia police officer in 1981. The Supreme Court said Monday it will not take up Abu-Jamal's claims that prosecutors improperly excluded blacks from the jury that convicted him of murdering Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner. The 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia upheld Abu-Jamal's conviction but held his death sentence invalid. The appeals court said it would not second-guess state court rulings rejecting Abu-Jamal's claims of bias in the composition of the jury. The high court considered only the conviction. The state has separately asked the court to reinstate the death sentence, but the justices have not acted on that request. A Philadelphia jury convicted Abu-Jamal, who is black, of killing Faulkner, who was white, in 1981 after the patrolman pulled over Abu-Jamal's brother during an overnight traffic stop. Prosecutors say Faulkner, 25, managed to shoot Abu-Jamal during the confrontation. A wounded Abu-Jamal, his own gun lying nearby, was still at the scene when police arrived, and authorities considered the evidence against him overwhelming. Over to you, Markos. A shame this cretin won't be put down, but on the upside he's free to keep a diary at Daily Kos. Labels: Mumia Abu Jamal
[Fwd: What are the chances of this coming to fruition?????????????????????]
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[Fwd: I guess this is somewhat like an unveiling?????????? Its been over a year...]
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Re: Yellow-Belly Cops
Let us hope that it is not that far yet D.B. I pray that it is not deteriorated that badly. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, d.b.baker rth...@yahoo.com wrote: Tea parties are nice, even in numbers, but fall far short of the necessary action. Personally, I've never put much stock in half measures. No, a thoroughly corrupted government calls for the full... measure. On Apr 6, 11:29 am, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting commentary D.B. What I find interesting, and C.W. hit on this yesterday, (I think it was C.W.) is that the media (who is in the tank for any liberal cause celebre') is now focusing on these purported, rash of shootings; that I surmise are no different than they were three weeks ago, or three years ago. The sole purpose is to restrict Americans inalienable right to own and possess firearms. We know that many in the Progressive-Democratic-Feel Good Obama Administration have set this agenda as one of their goals during their one term Adminstration. Folks like Israeli operative and professed Socialist Rahm Emanuel, Hil Clinton, Bella Pelosi and a cabal of other Anti-American Congressmen and Congresswomen are dead set on doing away with the Constitution of the United States. We all should be up in arms, and all the more reason for each and every American to show up on April 15th to the closest T.E.A. Party near you. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM, d.b.baker rth...@yahoo.com wrote: It's become a familiar scene, cops pulled away from shaking down citizens on public roadways, to confronting the reason they were hired - in this case, an armed asshole inside a Binghamton building shooting down the same people taser-happy cops love to shake down on the streets. You know the routine; cops loading their guns, then reloading their guns, checking their vests, re-tying their shoelaces, adjusting their battle helmets, gabbing on the radio, re-loading their guns, checking their shoelaces, hiding behind police cars, frozen behind trees... wishing they could just issue another ticket instead of heaving up their allotment of donuts. Yup, real tough guys. [Q] - Binghamton Police Chief Joseph Zikuski, who was on the scene of the shooting and in command within a few minutes of the 9-11 call is on the defensive. People are asking the obvious questions: -- Why did police wait an hour or more to enter the building, even though the shooting was over by the time they got there two minutes after a critically wounded receptionist called 9-11? -- Would any of the 13 gunshot victims who died have been saved by prompt emergency treatment? - http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/2009/04/outside-authorities-shoul. .. The county prosecutor has jumped in to back the Chief with some sweeping assertions that some people are going to find hard to accept: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Fwd: What a Shame ---- A company not taking a Bailout - has a CEO with a Big $'s compensation - A Real Associated Press story]
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AP trying to keep its articles from appearing on the websites
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What a total absolute crock
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#1 on God's Shit List
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Birth of the Blue Dogs
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The Auto Indusrty needed a Push......
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Coming up on FAUX
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Re: The Auto Indusrty needed a Push......
but they did change. They started to sell cars that were more luxurious, and more expensive than ever. I had one dealer empahasize the quality of the furnishings...stereo, seats etc. He made no effort to convince me that the car was cheap to operate (environment as well as money) or that the vehicle would prove reliable. That was Detroit, (Oshawa). I bought a Canadian built Honda instead. and ran it for ten years. It had no radio as that would disqualify it from NAFTA. But since when was a radio truly necessary? I got in the habit of singing while I drove, instead of the shower. On Apr 6, 3:52 pm, Fritz da Cat fritz.da.cat...@gmail.com wrote: This toon is18 years old. Why did Detroit refuse to change? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Wheel of Scandals
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The Pig at the Trough
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Re: Yellow-Belly Cops
On Apr 6, 2:31 pm, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.com wrote: Let us hope that it is not that far yet D.B. I pray that it is not deteriorated that badly. Well, Keith, let's take a look: [Q] - By almost every measure, Washington is hopelessly corrupt. And we are at once victims and accomplices. Career politicians are spending the country to near-bankruptcy as they feather their own nests, tighten their leash on our necks and pat us on the head. They take our money, bend it to their will, then return small portions of it at their discretion to make us feel it has all been worth it. Washington is to the taxpayer as the drug cartels are to the addict. . . . Meanwhile, with the power to give out our money as they wish, congressmen take campaign money from lobbyists and industries they regulate. Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., is only the latest poster boy for that, but boy is he a good one. There may be no one who better represents all that is wrong with Washington. The powerful Senate Banking Committee chairman got a sweetheart mortgage from Countrywide; he has received $280,000 in campaign contributions from troubled insurer AIG; and he made sure that AIG executive bonuses were untouched by Congress — then claimed for 24 hours that he knew nothing about it, before reporters forced him to admit the truth. -- http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2009/04/05/edi_517159.shtml Meanwhile, back at the trough: [Q] - The Obama aide disclosure that shocked me wasn’t Lawrence Summers making $5 million at a hedge fund, but Tom Donilon “earning $3.9 million as a partner at the Washington law firm O’Melveny Myers.” … Summers is a big-time economist, advising people with lots of money at stake on questions that involve, you know, equations. He had to “solve math puzzles” to get hired! I’d expect him to be expensive. But Donilon’s just a political Washington lawyer. He makes almost $4M? Wow. I didn’t know I’d fallen so far behind. Somebody really ought to do something about the growing income inequality in our society. -- http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/04/06/tom-braden-s-omituary-plus-sniggergate-and-donilon-envy.aspx I mean, yellow-belly cops are one thing, but this is another: [Q] - It was surely an act of hubris for President Obama to ask Congress to approve a $3.6 trillion federal budget for 2010 that runs a trillion-dollars worth of red ink its first year and then projects half-trillion deficits every year thereafter for a decade. Congress has never before been asked to consider spending of such magnitude, not even during wartime. Obama’s budget proposal also included provisions committing the nation to far-reaching policy changes that are certain to drive federal taxes higher, send gasoline and electricity costs soaring, socialize doctors and patients by putting Washington bureaucrats in charge of health care, and make Uncle Sam the Daddy Warbucks of college tuition for everybody. . . . So how did Congress deal with this landmark legislation? The House of Representatives gave opponents exactly 20 minutes to present an alternative, then gaveled the Obama measure to approval. The Senate approved it after considering a handful of amendments. But note that even before the 2010 budget was approved, this Congress had approved spending more than $1.2 trillion, or $24 billion per day. That’s $1 billion every hour since the 111th Congress convened in January. -- http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Banana-republic-budgeting-should-shame-Obama-Congress-42502587.html That's just a cursory look, today. So, yes, I'd say we're well beyond the politeness of tea parties. Which means Americans are either tone deaf, or trapped by abject fear. As if they didn't have a drop of Irish blood coursing through their frightened veins. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Strange - the Stanley Steamer got an average of over 125 mph in 1906 - and they are still trying to officially break that record.
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Guess that is a hotel to stay away from
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Re: Guess that is a hotel to stay away from
Yeah, I'd say so. On Apr 6, 2:19 pm, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/04/psa-be-careful-who-you-give-your-l... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Interesting analysis of a professor's interpretation of how to game the Geithner system
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Re: Coming up on FAUX
Are these meant to be offensive, or just stupid? On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Fritz da Cat fritz.da.cat...@gmail.comwrote: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Coming up on FAUX
LOL!! You are not even this misguided that you subscribe to any of these cartoons that you posted today Fritzie! I am curious, do you ever watch FOX News? What is your major news source? On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Fritz da Cat fritz.da.cat...@gmail.comwrote: That depends on your point of view. On Apr 6, 2:34 pm, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.com wrote: Are these meant to be offensive, or just stupid? On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Fritz da Cat fritz.da.cat...@gmail.com wrote: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
The sooner these POS kids get straightened out the better - what could possess anyone to do what they were doing
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[Fwd: we are not at war with Islam but they definitely are at war with us]
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Photos of the Italian Earthquake
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Re: What a pain in the ass ....
How tall were you at 85 pounds and do you have a fine bone structure? Anyway, good for you for your efforts to lose weight! On Apr 6, 4:38�am, kd kdlee...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same problem for the longest time, until I got pregnant. �I was 23 and weighed 85 lbs. �Ahh, the days I could eat what I wanted and not gain an ounce. �After Widget was born, I couldn't lose the excess weight. �Finally, I am. On Apr 5, 11:09�pm, rigsy03 rigs...@yahoo.com wrote: I think it is ridiculous how obsessed American women/girls are in inventing an image even with risk to their health/life.// I've worked to gain 15 pounds from my usual weight of 110 as these birdlike senior women look like cadavers and I finally have a fanny! :-) On Apr 5, 8:47 am, kd kdlee...@gmail.com wrote: A little exercise would have made anyone look better. Plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures are great for people who are injured due to an accident or birth defect, but people must go to a licensed physician. Even w/ a doctor, there can be major complications. On Apr 5, 7:55 am, RichardForbes richard_forbe...@hotmail.com wrote: A seemingly harmless cosmetic procedure turned deadly for a Bronx woman. She died one day after receiving silicone injections in her thighs, allegedly administered by someone without a medical license. Fiordaliza Pichardo's husband never thought she needed silicone injections to make her more attractive and would often tell her: 'Hey, why you do that? Stop doing that.' She'd tell me, 'Oh let me do this a little bit,' Fausto Rodriguez told CBS 2 HD. And the 43-year old tried to keep her injections secret, especially since they were allegedly being administered by her unlicensed friend, Elsa Then. She trusted this lady so health-wise, no worries, said Kelvin Rodriguez, the victim's son. But the worries became real on March 16 when the family says the woman then paid a visit. I seen the lady and her preparing. What I saw was the towel, Kelvin Rodriguez said. Mother and friend went to the bedroom, where behind closed doors, another injection, this one to the thigh, took place. But then hours later something started to happen to Pichardo. She told me she got problems with her chest, breathing and then she told me she wanted to go the hospital, Fausto Rodriguez said. Pichardo was rushed to the hospital but died the next morning of what the medical examiner's officer said was a silicone pulmonary embolism, caused by so much silicone injected that it was clotting in her lungs. CBS 2 HD caught up with Elsa Then, who told us she's a cosmetologist and that she was questioned by police. When asked if she does silicone injections, she said, No, never. CBS 2 HD: You're telling me you never injected this woman, in the thighs, in the buttocks? Then: Yes, I never did. Then admitted to knowing Pichardo and even visiting her in the hospital, a place where the family says Then could have told doctors about the injection, but never did. She didn't say anything, at all, daughter Marines Rodriguez said. I'm positive. The doctors had no idea. The family admits it, too, didn't tell doctors about the silicone injection because they didn't think there was any connection. Now the connection is all too real -- a silicone injection turning so tragic. We're missing one person. Nobody can replace that hole, Fausto Rodriguez said. Police said so far no arrests have been made, but they are investigating.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What a pain in the ass ....
I have a dancer type body also- slim build, long legs. Am absolutely allergic to gyms/exercise but was into a lot of sports (feminine- like ice skating, horseback riding, etc.) growing up so that probably gave me a good base to corrupt. :-) On Apr 6, 4:42�am, kd kdlee...@gmail.com wrote: Freud hated women, but besides that fact, Chinese foot binding is as barbaric as they come. �More women had clubs at the end of their feet than Gangas Kahn had in his military. �As for the athletic woman, I can only say for me. �Muscle is more attractive than fat or bones. �I am tiny, so I am more for the lithe, dancer type body. �I don't want to be a mini man; I want to look like a woman. There is a woman at my gym, I am sure every gym has one, who works out 28 hours a week. �She does 2 in the morning, and 2 in the evening every day. �She is there whenever I am, and then some. �Me, 4-6 hours/ week. On Apr 5, 11:19�pm, rigsy03 rigs...@yahoo.com wrote: You might recall Chinese foot binding which crippled women or those Africans with brass neck rings that turned women into giraffes or our 18 inch waists. Whatever. The new vogue is also the athletic woman, the career woman. I am tempted to agree with Freud- What do women want?. On Apr 5, 8:47 am, kd kdlee...@gmail.com wrote: A little exercise would have made anyone look better. Plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures are great for people who are injured due to an accident or birth defect, but people must go to a licensed physician. Even w/ a doctor, there can be major complications. On Apr 5, 7:55 am, RichardForbes richard_forbe...@hotmail.com wrote: A seemingly harmless cosmetic procedure turned deadly for a Bronx woman. She died one day after receiving silicone injections in her thighs, allegedly administered by someone without a medical license. Fiordaliza Pichardo's husband never thought she needed silicone injections to make her more attractive and would often tell her: 'Hey, why you do that? Stop doing that.' She'd tell me, 'Oh let me do this a little bit,' Fausto Rodriguez told CBS 2 HD. And the 43-year old tried to keep her injections secret, especially since they were allegedly being administered by her unlicensed friend, Elsa Then. She trusted this lady so health-wise, no worries, said Kelvin Rodriguez, the victim's son. But the worries became real on March 16 when the family says the woman then paid a visit. I seen the lady and her preparing. What I saw was the towel, Kelvin Rodriguez said. Mother and friend went to the bedroom, where behind closed doors, another injection, this one to the thigh, took place. But then hours later something started to happen to Pichardo. She told me she got problems with her chest, breathing and then she told me she wanted to go the hospital, Fausto Rodriguez said. Pichardo was rushed to the hospital but died the next morning of what the medical examiner's officer said was a silicone pulmonary embolism, caused by so much silicone injected that it was clotting in her lungs. CBS 2 HD caught up with Elsa Then, who told us she's a cosmetologist and that she was questioned by police. When asked if she does silicone injections, she said, No, never. CBS 2 HD: You're telling me you never injected this woman, in the thighs, in the buttocks? Then: Yes, I never did. Then admitted to knowing Pichardo and even visiting her in the hospital, a place where the family says Then could have told doctors about the injection, but never did. She didn't say anything, at all, daughter Marines Rodriguez said. I'm positive. The doctors had no idea. The family admits it, too, didn't tell doctors about the silicone injection because they didn't think there was any connection. Now the connection is all too real -- a silicone injection turning so tragic. We're missing one person. Nobody can replace that hole, Fausto Rodriguez said. Police said so far no arrests have been made, but they are investigating.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
BBC photos and videos of the Italian earthquake
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Re: Barack Obama's Family Owned Slaves
So how much are they going to pay into the reparations? Claguerra245 wrote: Barack Obama's Family Owned Slaves The Obama family did their part to plant racism in the DNA of AmeriKKKa. http://bp2.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/SAU2VFKvkOI/M6Q/8MrNLp1CDB8/s1600-h/obama+family.jpg Barack Obama is pictured here with his mother, sister and step-father. (Right Celebrity http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?pp_album=mainpp_cat=pp_image=Obama_mother.jpg) Barack Obama's ancestors owned slaves according to a report released by a genealogist who works at the Library of Congress. */The Chicago Tribune/* http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0703020128mar02,1,1921179.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed reported: Many people know that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's father was from Kenya and his mother from Kansas. But an intriguing sliver of his family history has received almost no attention until now: It appears that forebears of his white mother owned slaves, according to genealogical research and census records. The records, which had never been addressed publicly by the Illinois senator or his relatives, were first noted in an ancestry report compiled by William Addams Reitwiesner, who works at the Library of Congress and practices genealogy in his spare time. The report, on Reitwiesner's Web site, carries a disclaimer that it is a first draft --one likely to be examined more closely if Obama is nominated. According to the research, one of Obama's great-great-great-great grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned two slaves who were recorded in the 1850 census in Nelson County, Ky. The same records show that one of Obama's great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also owned two slaves. The Baltimore Sun retraced much of Reitwiesner's work, using census information available on the Web site ancestry.com and documents retrieved by the Kentucky Department for Libraries and Archives, among other sources. The records show that Overall, then 30, owned a 15-year-old black female and a 25-year-old black male, while Mary Duvall, his mother-in-law, owned a 60-year-old black man and a 58-year-old black woman. /Hat Tip BG/ Save money by eating out! Find great dining coupons in your area http://www.when.com/search?st=restauranthas_gift_cert=1ncid=emlcntuswhen0001. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Adult stem cell research may be paying off
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Re: What a pain in the ass ....
You have to consider the age Freud lived in- it was absolutely suffocating. He does some good work on civilization and nabs the male urge to kill the father (authority figure). I am laughing thinking how he would view American culture via tv and all these women issues that still are in turmoil. On Apr 6, 4:42�am, kd kdlee...@gmail.com wrote: Freud hated women, but besides that fact, Chinese foot binding is as barbaric as they come. �More women had clubs at the end of their feet than Gangas Kahn had in his military. �As for the athletic woman, I can only say for me. �Muscle is more attractive than fat or bones. �I am tiny, so I am more for the lithe, dancer type body. �I don't want to be a mini man; I want to look like a woman. There is a woman at my gym, I am sure every gym has one, who works out 28 hours a week. �She does 2 in the morning, and 2 in the evening every day. �She is there whenever I am, and then some. �Me, 4-6 hours/ week. On Apr 5, 11:19�pm, rigsy03 rigs...@yahoo.com wrote: You might recall Chinese foot binding which crippled women or those Africans with brass neck rings that turned women into giraffes or our 18 inch waists. Whatever. The new vogue is also the athletic woman, the career woman. I am tempted to agree with Freud- What do women want?. On Apr 5, 8:47 am, kd kdlee...@gmail.com wrote: A little exercise would have made anyone look better. Plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures are great for people who are injured due to an accident or birth defect, but people must go to a licensed physician. Even w/ a doctor, there can be major complications. On Apr 5, 7:55 am, RichardForbes richard_forbe...@hotmail.com wrote: A seemingly harmless cosmetic procedure turned deadly for a Bronx woman. She died one day after receiving silicone injections in her thighs, allegedly administered by someone without a medical license. Fiordaliza Pichardo's husband never thought she needed silicone injections to make her more attractive and would often tell her: 'Hey, why you do that? Stop doing that.' She'd tell me, 'Oh let me do this a little bit,' Fausto Rodriguez told CBS 2 HD. And the 43-year old tried to keep her injections secret, especially since they were allegedly being administered by her unlicensed friend, Elsa Then. She trusted this lady so health-wise, no worries, said Kelvin Rodriguez, the victim's son. But the worries became real on March 16 when the family says the woman then paid a visit. I seen the lady and her preparing. What I saw was the towel, Kelvin Rodriguez said. Mother and friend went to the bedroom, where behind closed doors, another injection, this one to the thigh, took place. But then hours later something started to happen to Pichardo. She told me she got problems with her chest, breathing and then she told me she wanted to go the hospital, Fausto Rodriguez said. Pichardo was rushed to the hospital but died the next morning of what the medical examiner's officer said was a silicone pulmonary embolism, caused by so much silicone injected that it was clotting in her lungs. CBS 2 HD caught up with Elsa Then, who told us she's a cosmetologist and that she was questioned by police. When asked if she does silicone injections, she said, No, never. CBS 2 HD: You're telling me you never injected this woman, in the thighs, in the buttocks? Then: Yes, I never did. Then admitted to knowing Pichardo and even visiting her in the hospital, a place where the family says Then could have told doctors about the injection, but never did. She didn't say anything, at all, daughter Marines Rodriguez said. I'm positive. The doctors had no idea. The family admits it, too, didn't tell doctors about the silicone injection because they didn't think there was any connection. Now the connection is all too real -- a silicone injection turning so tragic. We're missing one person. Nobody can replace that hole, Fausto Rodriguez said. Police said so far no arrests have been made, but they are investigating.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA says, The United States is not and will never be at war with Islam Bare Naked Islams Weblog
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Leftists Hate Cops
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OBAMA'S CENSUS 2010....Link for Census Bureau jobs
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Re: Leftists Hate Cops
They also hate the military and few served if they could have avoided the draft or now. The Left is into social/financial engineering and an unrealistic view of human nature, the self interest of nations and bring very little history to the table. On Apr 6, 6:22�pm, Travis baconl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Travis Date: Mon, Apr 6, 2009 Subject: Leftists Hate Cops �http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=6360 -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Barack Obama's Family Owned Slaves
A mule and 40 acres. On Apr 6, 6:05�pm, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: So how much are they going to pay into the reparations? � Claguerra245 wrote: � � � Barack Obama's Family Owned Slaves The Obama family did their part to plant racism in the DNA of AmeriKKKa. http://bp2.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/SAU2VFKvkOI/M6Q/8MrNLp1CD... Barack Obama is pictured here with his mother, sister and step-father. (Right Celebrity http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?pp_album=mainpp_cat=pp_image=Oba...) Barack Obama's ancestors owned slaves according to a report released by a genealogist who works at the Library of Congress. */The Chicago Tribune/* http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0703020128mar02,1,... reported: � � Many people know that Democratic presidential candidate Barack � � Obama's father was from Kenya and his mother from Kansas. � � But an intriguing sliver of his family history has received almost � � no attention until now: It appears that forebears of his white � � mother owned slaves, according to genealogical research and census � � records. � � The records, which had never been addressed publicly by the � � Illinois senator or his relatives, were first noted in an ancestry � � report compiled by William Addams Reitwiesner, who works at the � � Library of Congress and practices genealogy in his spare time. The � � report, on Reitwiesner's Web site, carries a disclaimer that it is � � a first draft --one likely to be examined more closely if Obama � � is nominated. � � According to the research, one of Obama's great-great-great-great � � grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned two slaves who were � � recorded in the 1850 census in Nelson County, Ky. The same records � � show that one of Obama's � � great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also � � owned two slaves. � � The Baltimore Sun retraced much of Reitwiesner's work, using � � census information available on the Web site ancestry.com and � � documents retrieved by the Kentucky Department for Libraries and � � Archives, among other sources. The records show that Overall, then � � 30, owned a 15-year-old black female and a 25-year-old black male, � � while Mary Duvall, his mother-in-law, owned a 60-year-old black � � man and a 58-year-old black woman. /Hat Tip BG/ Save money by eating out! Find great dining coupons in your area http://www.when.com/search?st=restauranthas_gift_cert=1ncid=emlcntu- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Rich Immigrants Are Behind $18 Million to Force Passage of Amnesty for Illegal Aliens This Year | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels
From: Travis Date: Mon, Apr 6, 2009 Subject: Rich Immigrants Are Behind $18 Million to Force Passage of Amnesty for Illegal Aliens This Year | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/april-1-2009/rich-immigrants-are-behind-18-million-force-passage-amnesty-illegal-alie -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Coming up on FAUX
Cat IQ = cat IQ. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.comwrote: Are these meant to be offensive, or just stupid? On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Fritz da Cat fritz.da.cat...@gmail.comwrote: -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Coming up on FAUX
I'm sending this to my brother. He is also a moonbat. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Fritz da Cat fritz.da.cat...@gmail.comwrote: -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The Pig at the Trough
Neither should ever have any taxpayer money. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Fritz da Cat fritz.da.cat...@gmail.comwrote: -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The Auto Indusrty needed a Push......
Greedy and corrupt managment and unions. guaranteed failure. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Fritz da Cat fritz.da.cat...@gmail.comwrote: This toon is *18 years old.* Why did Detroit refuse to change? -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty
Keith: In your last sentence, the word for should be replaced to read to destroy. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Philobealo wrote: 5. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. Immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries. 6. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of and increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. = Well said Philo If I could improve on this brief resume' of Senator Kennedy, I would emphasize how this man almost single handedly changed the face of our Nation with his 1964 Immigration Bill, and his continuous push for allowing illegal immigrants into this Nation. Just as bad, was the Kennedy-Kassenbaum Bill, which single handedly took away the scienter element, the *mens rea*; aspect from Doctors who were taking patients who were covered by Medicaid and/or Medicare. Yesterday, there was a thread on another board that talked about the number of doctors and health care providers who refused to accept patients who were covered under Medicaid or Medicare. The Kennedy Kassenbaum Bill is the cause of this, because the distinction of whether a Doctor (or his office) intended to, or whether they knowingly and intentionally attempted to defraud the government doesn't matter anymore.If there is a mistake, the penalty is the same as if you intentionally attempted to defraud the government. Thanks Ted, for all that you have done for our Nation. -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Moonbattery: Human Rights Lawyer Calls Suicide
From: Travis Date: Mon, Apr 6, 2009 Subject: Moonbattery: Human Rights Lawyer Calls Suicide http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/04/human_rights_la.html -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SHOULD WE ALL EMBRACE SHARIAH AS PART OF RESPECT ISLAM CAMPAIGN?
From: Travis Date: Sat, Apr 4, 2009 Subject: SHOULD WE ALL EMBRACE SHARIAH AS PART OF RESPECT ISLAM CAMPAIGN? Subject: SHOULD WE ALL EMBRACE SHARIAH AS PART OF RESPECT ISLAM CAMPAIGN? Should the Jews and people of conscience have protested in 1935 when the nazis first passed the infamous racist and anti-Semitic Nurnberger Gesetze (Nuremberg Laws)? Should they perhaps have quietly remained on the sidelines, observing as these rules were implemented and as the concentration camps were placed in operation years later? Or maybe they did the right thing by merely waiting until they were sure that the nazis were evil, until after six million Jews and eleven million others had been slaughtered, before speaking out? Your personal response to this question will determine how we should act today, when a similar situation is facing us. True, what we face today is not quite as obvious as is our 20:20 hindsight of the events of 74 years ago, but the ramifications and the loss of human lives are potentially far, far, greater now. This is definitely not a personal nor a political issue. This is an existential matter, one which will affect all of Western society. The Muslim Brothers (or Muslim Brotherhood) are a serious and well-financed movement, and they keep their plans just below society's threshold. But when you understand their carefully developed strategy and tactics, you can see that they are making serious, possibly irreversible, progress. With that caveat in mind, try to understand what is being explained below. The author is very restrained in his presentation, but the basic facts are there. Take them seriously. The warning is obvious. So should be your response. -- Allan PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY WILL OBAMA EMBRACE SHARIAH AS PART OF HIS RESPECT ISLAM CAMPAIGN? By Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. March 17, 2009 / 21 Adar 5769 http://www.JewishWorldReview.com http://www.jewishworldreview.com/ http://www.JewishWorldReview.com http://www.jewishworldreview.com/ President Obama, on Friday, reiterated for the umpteenth time his determination to develop a new relationship with the Muslim world. On this occasion, the audience were the leaders of Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and the Philippines. Unfortunately, it increasingly appears that, in so doing, he will be embracing the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood - an organization dedicated to promoting the theo-political-legal program authoritative Islam calls shariah and that has the self-described mission of destroying Western civilization from within. As part of Mr. Obama's Respect Islam campaign, he will travel to Turkey in early April. While there, he will not only pay tribute to an Islamist government that has systematically wrested every institution from the secular tradition of Kemal Ataturk and put the country squarely on the path to islamification. He will also participate in something called the Alliance of Civilizations. The Alliance is a United Nations-sponsored affair that reflects - as, increasingly do most things the United Nations is involved in - the views of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC). The OIC is made up of 57 Muslim-majority nations. Thanks to support from Saudi Arabia and its proxies, the Muslim Brotherhood has become a driving force within the Conference and their agendas largely coincide. For example, in 2005 a communique issued after a summit in Mecca declared: The Conference underlined the need to collectively endeavor to reflect the noble Islamic values, counter Islamophobia, defamation of Islam and its values and desecration of Islamic holy sites, and to effectively coordinate with states as well as regional and international institutions and organizations to urge them to criminalize this phenomenon as a form of racism. Ominously, as part of its bid to criminalize Islamo-phobia, the OIC is seeking deterrent punishments. It insists that not only freedom of expression but all human rights be circumscribed by the OIC's 1990 Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam, which concludes with the caveat that, All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic shariah. Translation: Liberties enshrined in the United Nations' foundational Universal Declaration of Human Rights are rendered null and void. The demand that no criticism of Islam be permitted is the pre-eminent feature of the Muslim Brotherhood's efforts in the West. In fact, it is but the leading edge of the Brothers' bid to suppress public awareness of the threat posed by their program in societies that pride themselves on religious tolerance, thereby facilitating seditious penetration and influence operations by the shariah-adherent. A playbook for the latter can be found in a publication issued last fall by the U.S.-Muslim Engagement Project being aggressively promoted to the Obama administration and Congress by a number of its non-Muslim participants. Notably,
Re: IT and Power Grid key to electric cars
Moonbats are defined as, Wacko left, socialist-elitist radical extremists, who believe themselves to be more tolerant, kinder, gentler, and more enlightened than most all other beings on the planet, but are none of the above. Sometimes, they like to call themselves, progressives; and can frequently be heard saying that, The United States is a Democracy. Most all Moonbats are clueless, uninformed, have never watched any other news organizations' television shows except NBC, CBS, ABC, and on cable, they always tune into MSNBC. They believe that the devil himself created FOX News Network, and in general, are terrified of actually hearing or learning the facts or the truth of any political issue or world affair. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM, wontstopthink...@gmail.com wrote: What does moon bat mean? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:15:58 To: east90t...@yahoo.com; gocinatla...@bellsouth.net; b...@bizzyblog.com; PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com; pun...@instapundit.com Subject: IT and Power Grid key to electric cars http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=454tag=nl.e101 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Barack Obama's Family Owned Slaves
If you trace back you'll find that most Negroes living in the US have at least some white blood thanks the practice of noblese oblige as far as Droit du seigneur jus primae noctis is concerned. Sorry I am not familiar with the English. It is the Lords right to do the bride... before (actually when he damned well pleased) the husband or assigned mate. On Apr 6, 5:33 pm, rigsy03 rigs...@yahoo.com wrote: A mule and 40 acres. On Apr 6, 6:05 pm, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: So how much are they going to pay into the reparations? Claguerra245 wrote: Barack Obama's Family Owned Slaves The Obama family did their part to plant racism in the DNA of AmeriKKKa. http://bp2.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/SAU2VFKvkOI/M6Q/8MrNLp1CD... Barack Obama is pictured here with his mother, sister and step-father. (Right Celebrity http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?pp_album=mainpp_cat=pp_image=Oba...) Barack Obama's ancestors owned slaves according to a report released by a genealogist who works at the Library of Congress. */The Chicago Tribune/* http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0703020128mar02,1,... reported: Many people know that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's father was from Kenya and his mother from Kansas. But an intriguing sliver of his family history has received almost no attention until now: It appears that forebears of his white mother owned slaves, according to genealogical research and census records. The records, which had never been addressed publicly by the Illinois senator or his relatives, were first noted in an ancestry report compiled by William Addams Reitwiesner, who works at the Library of Congress and practices genealogy in his spare time. The report, on Reitwiesner's Web site, carries a disclaimer that it is a first draft --one likely to be examined more closely if Obama is nominated. According to the research, one of Obama's great-great-great-great grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned two slaves who were recorded in the 1850 census in Nelson County, Ky. The same records show that one of Obama's great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also owned two slaves. The Baltimore Sun retraced much of Reitwiesner's work, using census information available on the Web site ancestry.com and documents retrieved by the Kentucky Department for Libraries and Archives, among other sources. The records show that Overall, then 30, owned a 15-year-old black female and a 25-year-old black male, while Mary Duvall, his mother-in-law, owned a 60-year-old black man and a 58-year-old black woman. /Hat Tip BG/ Save money by eating out! Find great dining coupons in your area http://www.when.com/search?st=restauranthas_gift_cert=1ncid=emlcntu- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dr. John's Constipation Cure
Subject: Dr. John's Constipation Cure If you are bothered by occasional or frequent constipation, look in the mirror and repeat the following phrase three times in succession when symptoms occur: My financial and personal well being are totally in the hands of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Geithner, Rahm Emmanual, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Al Gore If that doesn't scare the s**t out of you, then you are probably destined to be backed up for the rest of your life. There is no need to thank me for this advice, I'm just doing a public service. Dr. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IT and Power Grid key to electric cars
you forgot the whole global warming farce. On Apr 6, 8:16 pm, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.com wrote: Moonbats are defined as, Wacko left, socialist-elitist radical extremists, who believe themselves to be more tolerant, kinder, gentler, and more enlightened than most all other beings on the planet, but are none of the above. Sometimes, they like to call themselves, progressives; and can frequently be heard saying that, The United States is a Democracy. Most all Moonbats are clueless, uninformed, have never watched any other news organizations' television shows except NBC, CBS, ABC, and on cable, they always tune into MSNBC. They believe that the devil himself created FOX News Network, and in general, are terrified of actually hearing or learning the facts or the truth of any political issue or world affair. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM, wontstopthink...@gmail.com wrote: What does moon bat mean? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:15:58 To: east90t...@yahoo.com; gocinatla...@bellsouth.net; b...@bizzyblog.com; PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com; pun...@instapundit.com Subject: IT and Power Grid key to electric cars http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=454tag=nl.e101 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IT and Power Grid key to electric cars
LOL!! Excuse me Mark!! I stand corrected!! I could have expanded on that whole, tolerance thing a litttle bit more, as Moonbats are the least tolerant of anyone that I know. There is also their whole secularist agenda that I failed to mention, I will save that chapter for tomorrow night's agenda!!! On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Ohio mark marsupialm...@sbcglobal.netwrote: you forgot the whole global warming farce. On Apr 6, 8:16 pm, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.com wrote: Moonbats are defined as, Wacko left, socialist-elitist radical extremists, who believe themselves to be more tolerant, kinder, gentler, and more enlightened than most all other beings on the planet, but are none of the above. Sometimes, they like to call themselves, progressives; and can frequently be heard saying that, The United States is a Democracy. Most all Moonbats are clueless, uninformed, have never watched any other news organizations' television shows except NBC, CBS, ABC, and on cable, they always tune into MSNBC. They believe that the devil himself created FOX News Network, and in general, are terrified of actually hearing or learning the facts or the truth of any political issue or world affair. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM, wontstopthink...@gmail.com wrote: What does moon bat mean? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:15:58 To: east90t...@yahoo.com; gocinatla...@bellsouth.net; b...@bizzyblog.com; PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com; pun...@instapundit.com Subject: IT and Power Grid key to electric cars http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=454tag=nl.e101 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IT and Power Grid key to electric cars
Moonbats favorite tv channel is MSLSD. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Keith In Tampa keithinta...@gmail.comwrote: Moonbats are defined as, Wacko left, socialist-elitist radical extremists, who believe themselves to be more tolerant, kinder, gentler, and more enlightened than most all other beings on the planet, but are none of the above. Sometimes, they like to call themselves, progressives; and can frequently be heard saying that, The United States is a Democracy. Most all Moonbats are clueless, uninformed, have never watched any other news organizations' television shows except NBC, CBS, ABC, and on cable, they always tune into MSNBC. They believe that the devil himself created FOX News Network, and in general, are terrified of actually hearing or learning the facts or the truth of any political issue or world affair. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM, wontstopthink...@gmail.com wrote: What does moon bat mean? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:15:58 To: east90t...@yahoo.com; gocinatla...@bellsouth.net; b...@bizzyblog.com; PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com; pun...@instapundit.com Subject: IT and Power Grid key to electric cars http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=454tag=nl.e101 -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Conventional Wisdom
From: Travis Date: Mon, Apr 6, 2009 Subject: Conventional Wisdom http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=323910736577223 -- *~@):~{ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---