RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Hey Geoff - that reminds me. I've been reading this whole Thread - and catching up on it this morning. Very interesting to watch. Well, your comment below reminded me of a situation that occurred with me many years ago. I had done a little investing in Stock - and, when I mean a little - it was less than $1K that I owned. Well, this one month I got my stock report from my bank - and it seems there was a MAJOR error on there. Since, all of a sudden - it showed I had made a purchase of $2 Million dollars in some stock. Of course, that wasn't me - but, some transaction error. I did get back to the bank and told them of the error - and it was rectified. But, in the end, I am sure someone would have eventually found the error. But, it was kinda sad to watch all that go away! But, for the Hell of it - I kept that statement - and I should have had it framed - as it was quite a shocker at the time! -K- -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Flight Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a14048e6...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Hey, go ahead and knock it all you want, but like it or not: A. It continues to make money for a lot of people like myself including Microsoft. B. It's not a dead product like VFP. Jim. -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:21 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back It was actually done in Access. LOL * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:07 PM Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2548.69.251.251.31.1235441276.squirre l...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4578e9ed138c4db5a867a88723809...@xps ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Yeah, I think you're right. That's about the only way big business will do the right thing. Damage control! Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: It wasn't their heart, it was because they were embarrassed. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: From: Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:24 PM Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: Thanks for noting that but i am 18 and do understand how severance packages work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:31 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. The way a big company works, you get a severance that is calculated by your salary and your time-in-service. Ergo: each person gets the same relative value. (Except bigwigs, of course, but that is a matter for a different thread.) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3392e7100902240657r11330b5scb9162e2e533...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
On Tue, February 24, 2009 9:57 am, Fred Taylor wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. That's about the only way big business will do the right thing. Damage control! Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: It wasn't their heart, it was because they were embarrassed. Yeah, I'd bet you're absolutely right. They'd have to pay more in PR damage control and/or risk the M$ image becoming worse so it's a small price to pay to just make this problem go away. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6689.69.7.77.20.1235491808.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
It dies years ago :) Al - Original Message - From: Jim Dettman jimdett...@earthlink.net B. It's not a dead product like VFP. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9ea963dcf8d14838b0d5cc190a8c2...@gsl.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Allen Pollard wrote: It dies years ago :) Al - Original Message - From: Jim Dettman jimdett...@earthlink.net B. It's not a dead product like VFP. Hasn't it been dead since 1992? I thought that's what Gartner Group said. gdr ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1509.69.251.251.31.1235500096.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
On Feb 24, 2009, at 12:28 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Hasn't it been dead since 1992? I thought that's what Gartner Group said. gdr Breaking News: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is *still* dead! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/f4a67b23-88be-4b31-8e37-eabd51d09...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Yeah they are good ones alright. Behind the scenes it is a major screw-up every working day! Customers only see that tip of the iceberg. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2009 12:43 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Hey Geoff - that reminds me. I've been reading this whole Thread - and catching up on it this morning. Very interesting to watch. Well, your comment below reminded me of a situation that occurred with me many years ago. I had done a little investing in Stock - and, when I mean a little - it was less than $1K that I owned. Well, this one month I got my stock report from my bank - and it seems there was a MAJOR error on there. Since, all of a sudden - it showed I had made a purchase of $2 Million dollars in some stock. Of course, that wasn't me - but, some transaction error. I did get back to the bank and told them of the error - and it was rectified. But, in the end, I am sure someone would have eventually found the error. But, it was kinda sad to watch all that go away! But, for the Hell of it - I kept that statement - and I should have had it framed - as it was quite a shocker at the time! -K- -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Flight Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news... [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/008a01c996da$cb7d8e50$6278aa...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Ken Kixmoeller/fh wrote: On Feb 24, 2009, at 12:28 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Hasn't it been dead since 1992? I thought that's what Gartner Group said. gdr Breaking News: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is *still* dead! LMAO!!! You have the same sense of humor as I do, my friend! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1847.69.251.251.31.1235519860.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Many companies do this kind of thing for their image. BUT it doesn't make accepting an overpayment and refusing to repay it a moral or ethical position. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2009 2:40 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Tue, February 24, 2009 9:57 am, Fred Taylor wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. That's about the only way big business will do the right thing. Damage control! Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: It wasn't their heart, it was because they were embarrassed. Yeah, I'd bet you're absolutely right. They'd have to pay more in PR damage control and/or risk the M$ image becoming worse so it's a small price to pay to just make this problem go away. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/008b01c996db$773c3b10$65b4b1...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/27152.7121...@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. Or somebody with ethics. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d84a25d6-b8b2-420b-84f1-da3f079cd...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/367498c40902231307g179c3d35j1bfe161082063...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
What's unethical? You can't change your mind after you give a severance package. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 4:02 PM On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. Or somebody with ethics. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d84a25d6-b8b2-420b-84f1-da3f079cd...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/734744.71668...@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. Or somebody with ethics. Ken ethics (used with a sing. verb) The study of the general nature of morals and of the specific moral choices to be made by a person; moral philosophy. you got to be joking A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc710902231309l51e9556tb9ee35add5522...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Wouldn't they know it when the check arrived? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz wrote: From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 4:07 PM Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/660874.5206...@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/367498c40902231307g179c3d35j1bfe161082063...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/367498c40902231307g179c3d35j1bfe161082063...@mail.gmail.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2036417547-1235427784-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-21280220...@bxe1268.bisx.prod.on.blackberry ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a324b0.5010...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How many times have you read about people who've had money accidentally deposited to their accounts who went and spent it believing they had a right to something that wasn't there. The law is pretty clear. The morality is even clearer. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of m...@mikewohlrab.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:53 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squirrel@ webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/006101c99606$994054b0$cbc0fe...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Thanks Mike, that's exactly how I see it. * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, m...@mikewohlrab.com m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: From: m...@mikewohlrab.com m...@mikewohlrab.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:22 PM Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/809602.19867...@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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It's not clear. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:32 PM If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How many times have you read about people who've had money accidentally deposited to their accounts who went and spent it believing they had a right to something that wasn't there. The law is pretty clear. The morality is even clearer. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of m...@mikewohlrab.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:53 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squirrel@ webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/897113.95282...@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/772369.21566...@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I can't believe what I'm reading in some of these posts. I guess it shows how low some will stoop when it involves a company that is disliked I call that selective morality I like all the analogies used by others re finding money in the street etc. I send out program update invitations each year, and I remoind my clients that is an invite, not an invoice. Every year, I have a minimum of 10 people who pay me on the invite as well as the invoice (which, by law, I must send when i send them a cd) Would I keep this 2nd payment ? No way So, call me an idiot. But I sleep well Sytze On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How many times have you read about people who've had money accidentally deposited to their accounts who went and spent it believing they had a right to something that wasn't there. The law is pretty clear. The morality is even clearer. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of m...@mikewohlrab.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:53 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squirrel@ webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/367498c40902231449k244a625brad8a22d96908c...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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If you tell them that it iws not an invoice and they pay you then they could come back after you because they paid you for something ypu clearly stated should not be paid. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:49:26 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back I can't believe what I'm reading in some of these posts. I guess it shows how low some will stoop when it involves a company that is disliked I call that selective morality I like all the analogies used by others re finding money in the street etc. I send out program update invitations each year, and I remoind my clients that is an invite, not an invoice. Every year, I have a minimum of 10 people who pay me on the invite as well as the invoice (which, by law, I must send when i send them a cd) Would I keep this 2nd payment ? No way So, call me an idiot. But I sleep well Sytze On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How many times have you read about people who've had money accidentally deposited to their accounts who went and spent it believing they had a right to something that wasn't there. The law is pretty clear. The morality is even clearer. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of m...@mikewohlrab.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:53 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squirrel@ webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/367498c40902231449k244a625brad8a22d96908c...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/367498c40902231449k244a625brad8a22d96908c...@mail.gmail.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman
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The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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The thing is MS did not send a check out by mistake, i.e. Random checks, they sent a check to a receipient that both parties were expecting to be sent / recieved. If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:02:23 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How many times have you read about people who've had money accidentally deposited to their accounts who went and spent it believing they had a right to something that wasn't there. The law is pretty clear. The morality is even clearer. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of m...@mikewohlrab.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:53 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squirrel@ webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/006101c99606$994054b0$cbc0fe...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/006101c99606$994054b0$cbc0fe...@com.au ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1489010573-1235430317-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-18492995...@bxe1268.bisx.prod.on.blackberry ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal
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Years ago a programmer - I am sure it was not one of us - working for Mastercard, modified the program that applied payment to the entire outstanding balance of the card regardless of the amount paid. I made a $10 payment and my $1200 balance was completely paid off. What a mess that was! They eventually made adjustments at the bank and mastercard to get things the way they were supposed to be. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: The thing is MS did not send a check out by mistake, i.e. Random checks, they sent a check to a receipient that both parties were expecting to be sent / recieved. If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:02:23 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How many times have you read about people who've had money accidentally deposited to their accounts who went and spent it believing they had a right to something that wasn't there. The law is pretty clear. The morality is even clearer. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of m...@mikewohlrab.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:53 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squirrel@ webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32de3.1040...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/38621.96526...@web31404.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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So did you let mastercard know about the situation or did you move on with life as if nothing wrong had happened even though you know that your debt should not have been cleared but was? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:14:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Years ago a programmer - I am sure it was not one of us - working for Mastercard, modified the program that applied payment to the entire outstanding balance of the card regardless of the amount paid. I made a $10 payment and my $1200 balance was completely paid off. What a mess that was! They eventually made adjustments at the bank and mastercard to get things the way they were supposed to be. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: The thing is MS did not send a check out by mistake, i.e. Random checks, they sent a check to a receipient that both parties were expecting to be sent / recieved. If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:02:23 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How many times have you read about people who've had money accidentally deposited to their accounts who went and spent it believing they had a right to something that wasn't there. The law is pretty clear. The morality is even clearer. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of m...@mikewohlrab.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:53 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has said by how much, which would be interesting to know. And second, they cashed the check and microsoft sent the check and allowed it to be cashed. They should be allowed to keep the money as technically they both made a deal and both parties accepted it. And from what i could gather from the articles microsoft is asking for the money back, not demandinga which leads me to believe that there is little legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30928.69.7.77.20.1235422639.squirrel@ webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http
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So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/007301c9960e$ab796ce0$026c46...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/811104.28308...@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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2 wrongs make it right, right? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/367498c40902231539h2789fc4ame84e8d56ea406...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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That's a legal question. Returning an overpaid amount is moral one. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:06 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/007401c9960f$f9344d00$eb9ce7...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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By the way, I am the kind of person that would return any money I found or return change when the clerk gives me too much. The $1200 hit my bank account and I showed the bank my $10 payment. They returned the $1190 to my account and notified mastercard. For about 24 hours my $10 payment paid off my entire balance. The interesting thing is that it was a programming mistake. I wonder if M$ was a program error? Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: So did you let mastercard know about the situation or did you move on with life as if nothing wrong had happened even though you know that your debt should not have been cleared but was? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:14:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Years ago a programmer - I am sure it was not one of us - working for Mastercard, modified the program that applied payment to the entire outstanding balance of the card regardless of the amount paid. I made a $10 payment and my $1200 balance was completely paid off. What a mess that was! They eventually made adjustments at the bank and mastercard to get things the way they were supposed to be. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a33546.5050...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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If someone lays me off and then sends me a check, then later asks for money back, I tell them to stuff it. LOL Sue me Mr. Gates. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz wrote: From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:39 PM 2 wrongs make it right, right? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/297299.40865...@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Moral? No it's just business in this case. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:39 PM That's a legal question. Returning an overpaid amount is moral one. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:06 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/903873.25041...@web31404.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. The way a big company works, you get a severance that is calculated by your salary and your time-in-service. Ergo: each person gets the same relative value. (Except bigwigs, of course, but that is a matter for a different thread.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1ed7ef1e-632c-4b11-86f8-d972251a5...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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And u want to be sued by MS? Deep pockets and you'd lose. But certainly it is an interesting insight into your personal ethics. This is the exact some attitude (greed and corruption) that has lead to the massive recession. Seems that only corporate corruption is bad but personal corruption is not... -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:18 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back If someone lays me off and then sends me a check, then later asks for money back, I tell them to stuff it. LOL Sue me Mr. Gates. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz wrote: From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:39 PM 2 wrongs make it right, right? On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/007501c99611$a1818440$e4848c...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Since when can you seperate the two ? Mr Flight, I'm with you ! On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: Moral? No it's just business in this case. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:39 PM That's a legal question. Returning an overpaid amount is moral one. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:06 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael Madigan wrote: A contract at termination or a contract when beginning employment? I've never worked for a company that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm not an attorney but I work with a company where employees have been over paid. There are contracts defining everything including severance and in my experience the mutually agreed upon contract prevails. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49a32b94.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/367498c40902231553g7016d5d0hc83e762a00869...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Thanks for noting that but i am 18 and do understand how severance packages work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:31 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. The way a big company works, you get a severance that is calculated by your salary and your time-in-service. Ergo: each person gets the same relative value. (Except bigwigs, of course, but that is a matter for a different thread.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1ed7ef1e-632c-4b11-86f8-d972251a5...@information-architecture.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/1ed7ef1e-632c-4b11-86f8-d972251a5...@information-architecture.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/542289601-123540-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-19858700...@bxe1268.bisx.prod.on.blackberry ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: Thanks for noting that but i am 18 and do understand how severance packages work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:31 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. The way a big company works, you get a severance that is calculated by your salary and your time-in-service. Ergo: each person gets the same relative value. (Except bigwigs, of course, but that is a matter for a different thread.) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3392e7100902231724n56eb1ecagf12bddc6224eb...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Of course a few people on here would say that that the people are entitled to it. That is the greed and corruption that lead us to this current difficulty. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Fred Taylor Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 11:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: Thanks for noting that but i am 18 and do understand how severance packages work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:31 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. The way a big company works, you get a severance that is calculated by your salary and your time-in-service. Ergo: each person gets the same relative value. (Except bigwigs, of course, but that is a matter for a different thread.) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/007f01c9961f$bcba5350$362ef9...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2548.69.251.251.31.1235441276.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:38 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/009b01c99628$ca042fa0$5e0c8e...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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It wasn't their heart, it was because they were embarrassed. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: From: Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:24 PM Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: Thanks for noting that but i am 18 and do understand how severance packages work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:31 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. The way a big company works, you get a severance that is calculated by your salary and your time-in-service. Ergo: each person gets the same relative value. (Except bigwigs, of course, but that is a matter for a different thread.) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/908566.14514...@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Yeah, no greed or corruption on Microsoft's part, just the poor sap who had an extra $50 in his severance paycheck * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:32 PM Of course a few people on here would say that that the people are entitled to it. That is the greed and corruption that lead us to this current difficulty. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Fred Taylor Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 11:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: Thanks for noting that but i am 18 and do understand how severance packages work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:31 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then you should recognize that something is wrong, and that money should be returned i.e. To the owner or the police. The way a big company works, you get a severance that is calculated by your salary and your time-in-service. Ergo: each person gets the same relative value. (Except bigwigs, of course, but that is a matter for a different thread.) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/467375.41221...@web31408.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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It was actually done in Access. LOL * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:07 PM Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2548.69.251.251.31.1235441276.squir...@webmail.dssco.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/351879.76031...@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Here's what I would do. Withdraw the money, call them and tell them it's the price they have to pay for me not to go to the Television station and tell all their customers how unreliable their software is. * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:38 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/855476.20040...@web31403.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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So blackmail is a part of your moral structure? I guess it goes well with theft. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Here's what I would do. Withdraw the money, call them and tell them it's the price they have to pay for me not to go to the Television station and tell all their customers how unreliable their software is. * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:38 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/00c001c9963a$bc71e460$3555ad...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Yeah, that's awful. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:45 PM So blackmail is a part of your moral structure? I guess it goes well with theft. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Here's what I would do. Withdraw the money, call them and tell them it's the price they have to pay for me not to go to the Television station and tell all their customers how unreliable their software is. * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:38 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/862467.18859...@web31406.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Madagain is so wicked... and he thinks he's a good Christian. Maybe he is! LOL HW On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: So blackmail is a part of your moral structure? I guess it goes well with theft. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Here's what I would do. Withdraw the money, call them and tell them it's the price they have to pay for me not to go to the Television station and tell all their customers how unreliable their software is. * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:38 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d202ddb10902232131ld5ab829iea81ede10e174...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
That's my main complaint that as a Christian he is promoting theft and blackmail. Wonderful witness. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Helio Wakasugui Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 4:01 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Madagain is so wicked... and he thinks he's a good Christian. Maybe he is! LOL HW On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: So blackmail is a part of your moral structure? I guess it goes well with theft. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Here's what I would do. Withdraw the money, call them and tell them it's the price they have to pay for me not to go to the Television station and tell all their customers how unreliable their software is. * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:38 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/00df01c99645$f8c28fe0$ea47af...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back
You're so gay. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 12:31 AM Madagain is so wicked... and he thinks he's a good Christian. Maybe he is! LOL HW On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: So blackmail is a part of your moral structure? I guess it goes well with theft. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Here's what I would do. Withdraw the money, call them and tell them it's the price they have to pay for me not to go to the Television station and tell all their customers how unreliable their software is. * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were reversed before they got to see it. The day we took $6.5B out of someone's account by accident was a classic. That kinda showed up on the balance sheet pretty quickly. Or the $2,020,202.02 interest placed in someones $35 account! Yep, the MS screwup is exceedingly small news. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:38 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/86159.71344...@web31408.mail.mud.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
