[PEDA] simcode
Hi, Does anyone know of a better simcode description than that in the Protel handbook? Regards Ken * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hole annular ring
Thanks for all the help on this question. I think the best solution for me is to create a special rule for these pads as some have suggested. I also appreciate the information on non-plated holes. Let me just add that the reason that I wanted a size 0 pad is because we only put non-zero size pads around holes that will be used for grounding. As for keeping things away from the hole, Protel has other ways I can keep things away from the hole without having to add a big pad -- again as some have suggested. Thanks again. Matt __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Linux
Hi, all; Has anyone successfully run 99SE SP6 on any flavor of Linux? Any tips on Linux version/vendor, or GUI? Thanks for any info Brian Sherer Foothill Services LLC * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hole annular ring
At 06:19 AM 5/24/2002 -0700, Embedded Matt wrote: Thanks for all the help on this question. I think the best solution for me is to create a special rule for these pads as some have suggested. I also appreciate the information on non-plated holes. Let me just add that the reason that I wanted a size 0 pad is because we only put non-zero size pads around holes that will be used for grounding. Note that a pad sized substantially less than the hole size is functionally equivalent to a pad of zero size. This is why it was suggested, as one option, that a small pad be used instead of a zero size pad. Zero size pads are not guaranteed to function properly when encountered by various CAM and CAD programs. As for keeping things away from the hole, Protel has other ways I can keep things away from the hole without having to add a big pad -- again as some have suggested. Yes, there are other ways, but a large pad is the simplest and easiest and most straightforward. Personally, I would find another way to indicate ground pads, such as text. (In fact, in my opinion, such pads should actually be footprints and should be in the schematic, for several reasons. This can make the appropriate text almost automatic.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Gerber to Protel, was Boardmaker to Protel
At 02:03 PM 5/23/2002 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: Abd ul-Rahman, the naming is performed on the Gerber data (how I don't remember) such that you have a pad flash with unique names for each different size assignment. Then you can replace those assignments with a multilayer pad globally. I believe there was a manner of making the same thing work for vias as well. It is to bad that I don't recall how it was done because it is ideal for replacing pads (vias?) in the case of a gerber data load. You don't need to remember. The process is almost trivial in Protel, and I described it. But it does not give you pad numbers. There is *no* way to recover pad numbers from gerber unless one applies a great deal of intelligence. E.g., I can recover numbers for a DIP or SOIC (it may be necessary to look at the legend to know the orientation); this could be automated, but it would require something *much* more sophisticated than Protel 2.8, I'm certain of that. The process you described is simply a global edit. While it is possible for gerber to have two different D-codes for the same pad size and shape, I've never seen it and it would be only the result of a manual assignment of names; it could be considered an error, albeit a normally harmless one. So one will get, in the imported file in Protel, a unique size for a unique D-code. So you can globally convert those pads to through-hole pads as appropriate and the pad sizes that correspond to vias can be converted to vias (using the Convert tool, Selected Pads - Vias). The unique names for each different size are not necessary, but someone might create descriptive pad names to help in the process. Once again, the tool is Global Edit. I had simply hoped that someone on the list also knew of this process. I cannot recall the details from the one time I was walked through it by a person who is no longer with our company. We do know the process, and we have been describing it Now, if 2.8 has a pad renumbering tool like that in Tango DOS, this would speed things up, but it would still be a manual process to recover pad numbers. (And there is no way to guarantee that the numbers completely correspond to the original because there is no universal standard for naming the pads of some kinds of components, such as SOT-23s. Fortunately, it is not necessary to completely match the original, one must only match the schematic that one eventually produces, if there is one to be made.) But if you must find the original person, there is a fairly good chance that one of us knows him or her, if you can remember the name * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] simcode
Hello, I also search for persons who have work with simcode - Original Message - From: Ken Henrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: [PEDA] simcode Hi, Does anyone know of a better simcode description than that in the Protel handbook? Regards Ken * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Gerber to Protel, was Boardmaker to Protel
Abd ul-Rahman, no you are not describing the process that I was trying to recall. Trust me, your description in no way resembles the process, nor is your process limited to Ver. 2.8 is it? Don't worry about the original person who told me the process, as I said earlier, it was a former employee of Norsat. I know that nobody on the listserver knows him because he had never been on the listserver. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com Visit us at Booth 2G2-09 at CommunicAsia 2002 in Singapore June 18-21. -Original Message- From: Abd ulRahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber to Protel, was Boardmaker to Protel SNIP You don't need to remember. The process is almost trivial in Protel, and I described it. SNIP The process you described is simply a global edit. SNIP The unique names for each different size are not necessary, but someone might create descriptive pad names to help in the process. Once again, the tool is Global Edit. SNIP We do know the process, and we have been describing it SNIP But if you must find the original person, there is a fairly good chance that one of us knows him or her, if you can remember the name * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] footprint for smd or through-hole oscillator
i am trying to make an footprint for an smd-oscillator. but if this smd-device isn't available i want to use a through-hole part. so i made a footprint in my pcb-library which works for both parts. i assigned the same pinnumber to 2 different pads and connected them with a wire. this causes different drc-errors and makes complete autorouting impossible because i can't assign a net to the wire bewtwen my 2 pads. anybody had that problem before or a good idea? kind regards bernhard * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] footprint for smd or through-hole oscillator
all the time put two schem symbols on top of each other and put 2 separate pcb footprints on top of each other you can also assign a net to a component trace by using the update primitives function in the netlist manager Dennis Saputelli Bernhard Koss wrote: i am trying to make an footprint for an smd-oscillator. but if this smd-device isn't available i want to use a through-hole part. so i made a footprint in my pcb-library which works for both parts. i assigned the same pinnumber to 2 different pads and connected them with a wire. this causes different drc-errors and makes complete autorouting impossible because i can't assign a net to the wire bewtwen my 2 pads. anybody had that problem before or a good idea? kind regards bernhard -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] footprint for smd or through-hole oscillator
Bernhard, after loading your netlist (or running the Update PCB utility) then you want to go to the Netlist Manager. In the netlist manager open the menu in the lower left corner and use the Update Free Primitives From Component Pads. This will assign the correct net to all no net primitives which make contact with a netlisted pad. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com Visit us at Booth 2G2-09 at CommunicAsia 2002 in Singapore June 18-21. -Original Message- From: Bernhard Koss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 1:05 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] footprint for smd or through-hole oscillator i am trying to make an footprint for an smd-oscillator. but if this smd-device isn't available i want to use a through-hole part. so i made a footprint in my pcb-library which works for both parts. i assigned the same pinnumber to 2 different pads and connected them with a wire. this causes different drc-errors and makes complete autorouting impossible because i can't assign a net to the wire bewtwen my 2 pads. anybody had that problem before or a good idea? kind regards bernhard * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] footprint for smd or through-hole oscillator
Hello Bernhard, Saturday, May 25, 2002, 1:04:40 AM, you wrote: i am trying to make an footprint for an smd-oscillator. but if this smd-device isn't available i want to use a through-hole part. so i made a footprint in my pcb-library which works for both parts. i assigned the same pinnumber to 2 different pads and connected them with a wire. this causes different drc-errors and makes complete autorouting impossible because i can't assign a net to the wire bewtwen my 2 pads. anybody had that problem before or a good idea? kind regards bernhard The simplest, safest solution is to show two oscillators on the schematic, one with the smd footprint, and one with the through-hole footprint (and a note indicating that only one will be installed!). -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEIVancouver, B.C., Canada GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver-webpages.com/van-ps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
