Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Ivan, any chance that your email account has been compromised? If a spammer has compromised your account somehow and is using your account for spam, then you can find that you are getting blamed. Possibly it is as simple as someone just spoofing your email as the reply address for their spam, now you get the finger pointed at you. It is also possibly just a scam to confirm your email address if you respond. I would not respond to the hotmail email address, it is probably a source for obtaining email addresses for spammers. I would figure any legitimate blacklist would not be using hotmail for their email address. Checking out the website, they sell PC equipment. Maybe it is just a rouse to up their visitor count on their site. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:42 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Have you insulted anyone today? Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. -- John M. Cardone Electro-Mechanical Dsgn. Engr. Grp. M/S 125-14R Mechanical Engineering Section, 352 4800 Oak Grove Dr.NASA / Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, Ca 91109MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 818.354.5407 Fax: 818.393.4399 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Brad: You didn't say if you had received the same message from the Protel list. It seems to me that it would have been sent to all members of the Protel EDA list. Unless the origination address was spoofed, in which case it would look to me like it came from the PEDA list, but in fact came to me from somewhere else, and you guys would not have gotten it. I don't see how my e-mail could have been compromised. My ISP blocks e-mail sending from nets other than their own subnet. With all this blacklisting and spamming, let's take bets when e-mail will finally become unusable. I bet it's when an e-mail has a less than 50% chance of getting there. At this rate, that's by year's end... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Ivan, any chance that your email account has been compromised? If a spammer has compromised your account somehow and is using your account for spam, then you can find that you are getting blamed. Possibly it is as simple as someone just spoofing your email as the reply address for their spam, now you get the finger pointed at you. It is also possibly just a scam to confirm your email address if you respond. I would not respond to the hotmail email address, it is probably a source for obtaining email addresses for spammers. I would figure any legitimate blacklist would not be using hotmail for their email address. Checking out the website, they sell PC equipment. Maybe it is just a rouse to up their visitor count on their site. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:42 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Have you insulted anyone today? No, I'm falling behind on my quota... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: John M. Cardone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Ivan, no I haven't seen it. But I don't understand exactly how you received it. The portion you supplied was addressed from you to the PEDA list, how did it arrive in your inbox? Do you know how to check the headers and see where it 'may' have really come from according to the headers? Compare the headers from other legitimate PEDA messages. I wonder if somebody at this Crystal PC was a member of the PEDA list and they are no longer employed there? Could this simply be a complex bounce back from their closed email account, aimed to cut down on unsolicited spam? Like the out of office replies we get directly from the source mailboxes when someone sets the autoreply prior to an absence form the office. With what I saw on their website, I don't think they are malicious. Try to find a phone number and give them a call, ask for their network admin and see if it is probably just some autoreply from their email server for a closed email account. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:24 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Brad: You didn't say if you had received the same message from the Protel list. It seems to me that it would have been sent to all members of the Protel EDA list. Unless the origination address was spoofed, in which case it would look to me like it came from the PEDA list, but in fact came to me from somewhere else, and you guys would not have gotten it. I don't see how my e-mail could have been compromised. My ISP blocks e-mail sending from nets other than their own subnet. With all this blacklisting and spamming, let's take bets when e-mail will finally become unusable. I bet it's when an e-mail has a less than 50% chance of getting there. At this rate, that's by year's end... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Hi Ivan, Typically many ISP's filter mail by means of a blacklist to prevent spamming. My understanding is that Crystal has a very strict list and will blacklist more people than most ISP's. Are you still getting the error message? Call the ISP's involved if you are. They are just trying to protect the network from going down. I think they would have the best answer to your situation. Good luck. Mark At 06:42 AM 3/19/2003, you wrote: Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. Mark Iams-McGuire Master CAD Designs 13222 Hidden Valley Road Grass Valley, CA 95949 phone: 530-271-7078 fax: 530-271-7088 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Mark: I only got that wierd message once this morning. And I've posted several times to the PEDA list today. So it's probably a virus thing. But not on my end - I've scanned my machines for viruses. Didn't find any. So maybe someone else on this list has an infected machine? Some viruses will take e-mail addresses from your address book and forge fake From: headers, then spam everyone in the address book. It could be someone who has sent or received e-mail from the Crystal Group and the PEDA list. I know I have never sent/received e-mail from the Crystal Group. If you don't have antivirus s/w, you can use Symantec's free checker at http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ Click on check for security risks. For Linux boxes, try RAV Antivirus at http://www.ravantivirus.com/index.php They have a 30-day free trial. Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in these companies, I'm just trying to solve a problem. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Mark Iams-McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Hi Ivan, Typically many ISP's filter mail by means of a blacklist to prevent spamming. My understanding is that Crystal has a very strict list and will blacklist more people than most ISP's. Are you still getting the error message? Call the ISP's involved if you are. They are just trying to protect the network from going down. I think they would have the best answer to your situation. Good luck. Mark * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message
Ivan, I got one, and we may have both gotten one from the same post, since I was replying to you. Let's see if this prompts another one on my end here, as I may be the target as opposed to you. JaMi - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] wierd blacklist message Did anyone else get the message below? It looks as if that message was sent by me, but it wasn't. Someone is spoofing something. I sent no such message. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Seperate Systems - was Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes The message sender's address or IP address was found in one or more of the following Anti-Spam real time black lists. Crystal Groups Own BanList Please contact your system administrator or ISP for further information on how to be removed from these lists. If you feel this message is in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Hotmail blocks your email too, or you don't hear from someone withing 24-48 hours, call your contact at Crystal Group. You can find the phone number for Crystal Group at www.crystalpc.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
