Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Adding CSS-Rules to a styletag in Prototype

2011-10-20 Thread Luke
Thanks, Joe T.

Walter: The problem is, that on my page the user can add/remove contents and 
also change the styles of those contents dynamically using JS. Now if you 
set a Style to certain elements, either via changing the style-tag or adding 
a class-name and *afterwards* add content, that content won't be styled. Of 
course, I save the applied style-settings in my backend and so I could apply 
the style-definitions when I generate the added content, but that maybe that 
might not be the case anymore in the future and also it's easier to set a 
style-definition in a style tag, rather than doing the backend-thing.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Stopping events using Prototype 1.6.1 in IE9 / how compatible is Prototype 1.7 with 1.6.1?

2011-10-20 Thread Luke
Thanks Andrew. I tried upgrading. So far I don't see any problems, Good 
job! :)

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: What performs better? 30 observers on specific elements or 1 Observer observing every click?

2011-10-17 Thread Luke
Do I understand this right that you suggest adding one special class or 
attribute to all clickable elements, so that in my observer I can check for 
that class/attribute in the very first line minimizing the amount of if 
statements PLUS you suggest to delegate the triggered event to the [clicked] 
element so that I don't have one big eventhandler and can keep a good 
software structure?

If I understand this right this would be THE answer.

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[Proto-Scripty] Adding CSS-Rules to a styletag in Prototype

2011-10-17 Thread Luke
Hi there,

I wanna add CSS-Definitions to a style-tag using Prototype. In all good 
browsers (ALL^IE) this works by simplay appending a CSS-String to the 
desired style-tag. IE doesn't like this though. I found [1] that in IE you 
can update the entire contents of the style-tag using an attribute named *
cssText* but that doesn't append but replace the all definitions.

So I was wondering, does Prototype JS already have a method to append 
style-definitions to a styletags for all browsers?

Thanks,
Lukas

[1] 
http://acidmartin.wordpress.com/2009/05/06/creating-style-tag-with-javascript-and-adding-rules-to-it/

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[Proto-Scripty] Stopping events using Prototype 1.6.1 in IE9 / how compatible is Prototype 1.7 with 1.6.1?

2011-10-15 Thread Luke
Hi,

I'm currently trying to make my site compatible with IE9 and there's already 
a major problem. I'm using Prototype 1.6.1 and it seems events won't be 
stopped with Event.stop anymore in IE9. I've read on Stackoverflow [1] 
Prototype 1.7 fixes that problem but I'm not sure if I should update. 
Deadline's coming soon and I don't know how much of a problem updating 
Prototype will be.

So here's my question: Is there a way to stop events in IE9 with Prototype 
1.6.1

or

would you recommend upgrading to Prototype 1.7? Would you say there are some 
things that could be problematic?

Thank you,
Lukas


[1] 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3919250/disable-a-link-in-ie9-prototype-stop-not-working

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[Proto-Scripty] Using only one draghandle in a sortable List

2011-09-23 Thread Luke
Hi there,

I have a list where, when I hover its items, an overlay with an edit-link 
(and some other stuff) is shown. Now I'm trying to make that list sortable 
with Scriptaculous' Sortable. The problem is that I overlay the listitems 
with the mentioned edit-link-stuff and therefore cannot click and drag the 
list-items. For performance (and convenience) reasons I only have 1 overlay, 
not an overlay for each list-item, so I cannot define an overlay for each 
item as draghandle.

So, is there any way I can dynamically bind a drag-handle for the 
list-items, so i can make the overlay the drag-handle for each list-item I'm 
hovering?

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Using only one draghandle in a sortable List

2011-09-23 Thread Luke
Nevermind, I refactored the code, this isnt nexxessary anymore.

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[Proto-Scripty] onDrop in Sortable

2011-09-23 Thread Luke
Hi,

it seems there's no callback for 'onDrop' (like in Droppable) in 
Scriptaculous' Sortable. Is there any way to call a function whenever an 
element's dropped in Sortable?

Thanks
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Aw: Re: Prototype itself throws errors in IE7

2011-08-29 Thread Luke
Ok, thank you guys but the problem was something different. It's almost 
emberassing ^^. I simply included prototype.js twice. While every normal 
Browser doesn't care, IE7 throws the above mentioned errors. Thanks though 
for your responses and sorry for having wasted your time ;)

Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Prototype itself throws errors in IE7

2011-08-26 Thread Luke
Hi

I'm trying to get a project I'm working on IE7-proof and I'm running into 
errors right from the start. The project is almost finished so I'm already 
including a lot of scripts and already have a lot of markup. When I load my 
page I get the error


Object doesn't support this property or method. prototype.js line 291 
character 7


...and lot's of others, but this one occurs in prototype.js pretty much is 
the basis for everything else. All scripts depend on one call in a 
dom:loaded-observer to be exectuted. I commented that line out so nothing 
get's executed but I still get the error in prototype.js. And I have no idea 
where to start. Fermion in the IRC-channel told my prototype doesn't work in 
quirksmode in IE7. I'm using XHTML 1.0 Transitional and I get 
validation-errors because I use custom attributes in some tags. But I 
created a file that uses Prototype and has custom attributes for testing 
pruposes and that page works well.

If someone has an idea or a tip it's very appreciated.

Thanks and have a nice weekend,
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Why is there a $super-Parameter?

2011-03-24 Thread Luke
It's late, but I have to ask something though that it still don't 
understand. Why *doesn't* prototype just add a reference to the parent-class 
in subclasses? Like

klass.prototype.superclass = superclass

...in Class.Create. Is it because the *this*-reference would go out of 
scope?

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[Proto-Scripty] Why is there a $super-Parameter?

2011-03-18 Thread Luke
Hi,

I'm working on my bachelor-thesis and I'm trying to understand a few things. 
I'm wondering: Why is there the construct of the $super-parameter in 
Prototype's class-implementation? Is anything wrong with calling 
this.parent.myfunction()? Why did they implement that?

This is more of a theoretical question.. I just think there must be a reason 
for the $super thing..

Does anyone have an idea?

Thanks
Lukas

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Why is there a $super-Parameter?

2011-03-18 Thread Luke
Sounds logical ;)

No really, thx :)

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Why is there a $super-Parameter?

2011-03-18 Thread Luke
Thanks a lot TJ that helps!

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[Proto-Scripty] What do you think of this software-architecture?

2011-03-18 Thread Luke
Hi again,

I'm working on a little project that lets users create (very) simple 
websites. On his site the user can add sections (like a text or a big image 
or a video) one below the other. Each section can be edited by clicking a 
link underneath the section. So to structure my code, and give me some 
convenience for later work, I copied and modified prototype's 
class-implementation so that a class created with my implementation can 
[optionally] be passed a DOM-object as parameter, which will be extended 
with a set of methods and properties of the class. That means I can create a 
class for a section and instantiate it passing it a section-DOM-Object. That 
section-object has all functions it needs to have to be edited right 
attached to it.
That allows me to structure my code in a very OOP-like manner, seeing 
DOM-Objects as instances of my classes. Also I can still query the DOM-Tree 
the Prototype way and perform actions on it (like 
$$('.section').first.edit()).
One trap I of course had to work around is name-conflicts, because I'm 
extending with up to 10 methods and properties. I just prefixed my names 
with rb (like $$('.section').first.rbEdit()). It's ugly, but it works.

What do you think of such a structure? Sounds ok? Sounds problematic?

All feedback is very appreciated :)

Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] How to handle non-'px' values if you want to get an element's line-height

2011-02-08 Thread Luke
Hi,

I need to calculate the line-height of an element. Unfortunately I cannot 
predict in which unit it will be set*** but I need to find out its px-value. 
If it is set in em or percent I can calculate it from the font-size, but 
that again could also be set in em or percent too.

So I'm wondering what's the right way to deal with this; Do I need to 
recursively traverse the DOM tree upwards until I find a 
line-height/font-size I can work with? What if none is set? I read the 
default font-size for IE/FF/Safari is 16px, but I'm actually not sure if 
that's true.

Or is there another way I can't think of?

Thanks,
Lukas


* if there's no other way I could base the calculation on px-, em- (and 
maybe percent)-values, but if I can avoid this that would be a bonus

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Draggable always visible in overflow:hidden parent div

2011-01-27 Thread Luke
Hi there,

you can do this with the snap-paramter. It 'normally' takes a value, but you 
can also pass it a function that sets the boundaries for your draggable 
element:

new Draggable('element', {
   snap: function(x, y) {
return[ (x  200) ? (x  0 ? x : 0 ) : 200,
(y  100) ? (y  0 ? y : 0) : 100 ];
}
});


The values 200 should be the width of your container MINUS the draggable's 
width and instead of 100 you should insert the container's height minus the 
height of the element.

Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Strange ajax behaviour with effect.morph

2011-01-27 Thread Luke
Hi Rey,

you shouldn't use timers for this - you canot be sure when an ajaxrequest 
has finished loading. There are parameters both in the ajax-methods and in 
morph that take functions that will be called on a specific event like when 
the ajax-call has been loaded (these are called callbacks).

Check http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options section Common callbacks 
and http://madrobby.github.com/scriptaculous/core-effects/ for the part 
callbacks.

A simple usage would be

new Effect.Morph( myDiv, { style:height:0px;,
  afterFinish: function({
new Ajax.Request(url, {
  onSuccess: function(transport) {
new Effect.Morph( myDiv, { style:height: 222px;overflow:hidden; 
} );
  }
});
  })}
);

There might be syntax-errors in this

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: number sign (#) in a select option - gets truncated

2011-01-14 Thread Luke
Is the hash mark part of the request URL? If so it probably strips it 
because it's interpreted as an anchor and not part of a http-request to a 
file. If not so: We can haz (relevant) codez?

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: How to show the full resolution image at clicking on thumnail

2011-01-14 Thread Luke
Why don't you ask in the jQuery-Group?

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/jquery-en

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: How to show the full resolution image at clicking on thumnail

2011-01-14 Thread Luke
Also, posting a hell lot of code without structure or documentation probably 
won't get you anywhere. Try to strip everything down to there very relevant 
parts, comment your code and post again (here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/jquery-en ).

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: I wrote a dropdown multiselect also

2011-01-12 Thread Luke
nice!

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype 1.7 EvalJSON Error Sintax on Date Eval

2011-01-07 Thread Luke
Afaik a JSON-Object (or string) must be wrapped in {}. What you have is an 
array (your string's wrapped with [ ]). Try:


{
  [
{Aspirante_id:37,
  AspirantesComentarios_id: 6,
  Comentario:asdfadsf,
  Who:nahum,
  When: new Date(1294268679000)
}
  ]
}

or {[{Aspirante_id:37,AspirantesComentarios_id: 
6,Comentario:asdfadsf,Who:nahum,When:new 
Date(1294268679000)}]}


Also, please, format your code when you paste it.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Can I change what new [someClass] will return?

2010-12-17 Thread Luke
Hi Richard,

thanks for your reply. With

 The return is something I've been using since May 2008 with all the
 releases and updates since then.

Do you mean you have used the native prototype-return, or did you
alter it, and it still worked?

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  Hi,

  if you define a Class like

  --
  var TestClass = Class.create({
         initialize: function(element) {
                 element = $(element);
                 this.doFunkyStuffWithElement(element)
                 return element;
         },
         doFunkyStuffWithElement: function(element) { log(funky stuff
  here) }
  });
  --

  and you instantiate that Class

  var myObject = new TestClass();

  is there a way I can change it so (while namespacing my Class-Code so
  Prototype's Class will remain untouched) that instantiation of that
  class will return something different than what Prototype returns (in
  my case a DOM-Object that has been extended with custom Methods)?

  ---
  Why I want to do this: I'm working on a site where you can create
  really simple webpages by adding, editing, and removing elements on
  your page. To structure my code I make use of prototype's dom-
  extending nature and its way of class-inheritance:
  There is a base class for elements on the page which has methods for
  editing and removing that object and so on. I subclass this base-class
  for specific elements where I implement the specific editing/removing/
  whatever-code. Now to map my functionality to the elements on the
  page, I extend the DOM-Elements which you can edit/etc with the
  methods and properties of the class, leaving out unnecessary
  constructors etc.

  But it is always a little annoying to extend an object with a class,
  and then fetch that object again to work with it:

  --
  new EditablePicture($('the_element_I_extend'));
  var my_element = $('the_element_I_extend');
  my_element.do_something();
  --

  it would be nice to be able to do something like this:

  --
  var my_element = new EditablePicture($('the_element_I_extend'));
  my_element.do_something();
  --

  Is that kind of stuff even possible?

  Thank you
  Lukas

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 Yep - I think so. Look at around line 80 of prototype.js

     function klass() {
       return this.initialize.apply(this, arguments);
     }

 The return is something I've been using since May 2008 with all the
 releases and updates since then.

 I've not had any issues with my code or with scripty with it.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Is there a way to get the name of a class from within the class?

2010-12-17 Thread Luke
I take that as a no?

On Dec 16, 6:02 pm, bernard bernard.christophe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I truly wish some people would take the trouble to buy a javascript book
 instead of off-topic-posting in this group... meh.
 b.

 Intellectual honesty consists in taking ideas seriously. To take ideas 
 seriously means that you intend to live by, to practice, any idea you accept 
 as true.
 [Ayn Rand]

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Can I change what new [someClass] will return?

2010-12-17 Thread Luke
Sounds good. Can you post a link to your source (if you want to share
it and have it on github or something)?

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  Hi Richard,

  thanks for your reply. With

  The return is something I've been using since May 2008 with all the
  releases and updates since then.

  Do you mean you have used the native prototype-return, or did you
  alter it, and it still worked?

  On Dec 16, 6:04 pm, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 16 December 2010 16:36, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi,

   if you define a Class like

   --
   var TestClass = Class.create({
          initialize: function(element) {
                  element = $(element);
                  this.doFunkyStuffWithElement(element)
                  return element;
          },
          doFunkyStuffWithElement: function(element) { log(funky stuff
   here) }
   });
   --

   and you instantiate that Class

   var myObject = new TestClass();

   is there a way I can change it so (while namespacing my Class-Code so
   Prototype's Class will remain untouched) that instantiation of that
   class will return something different than what Prototype returns (in
   my case a DOM-Object that has been extended with custom Methods)?

   ---
   Why I want to do this: I'm working on a site where you can create
   really simple webpages by adding, editing, and removing elements on
   your page. To structure my code I make use of prototype's dom-
   extending nature and its way of class-inheritance:
   There is a base class for elements on the page which has methods for
   editing and removing that object and so on. I subclass this base-class
   for specific elements where I implement the specific editing/removing/
   whatever-code. Now to map my functionality to the elements on the
   page, I extend the DOM-Elements which you can edit/etc with the
   methods and properties of the class, leaving out unnecessary
   constructors etc.

   But it is always a little annoying to extend an object with a class,
   and then fetch that object again to work with it:

   --
   new EditablePicture($('the_element_I_extend'));
   var my_element = $('the_element_I_extend');
   my_element.do_something();
   --

   it would be nice to be able to do something like this:

   --
   var my_element = new EditablePicture($('the_element_I_extend'));
   my_element.do_something();
   --

   Is that kind of stuff even possible?

   Thank you
   Lukas

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  Yep - I think so. Look at around line 80 of prototype.js

      function klass() {
        return this.initialize.apply(this, arguments);
      }

  The return is something I've been using since May 2008 with all the
  releases and updates since then.

  I've not had any issues with my code or with scripty with it.

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 I build my own prototype. I have a patch which is applied to after the
 compiled from source.

 So, any class I create, I can return something from the initializer.

 I'm trying to find the original request for this feature, but I can't.
 It makes my classes work like a Factory if the initializer returns
 something other than this.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Can I change what new [someClass] will return?

2010-12-17 Thread Luke
Ok, that works great. Thank you Richard!

On Dec 17, 11:17 am, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17 December 2010 10:14, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sounds good. Can you post a link to your source (if you want to share
  it and have it on github or something)?

 I don't use github. I simply build prototype and then add my patch.

 I don't have any unit tests for this either, but my users are using it
 all day every day (24 hour call centre) for several years.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Is there a way to get the name of a class from within the class?

2010-12-17 Thread Luke
Ok, thanks T.J.,

I really wanted to get the name of the Class as a string. The reason
is this:

I'm working on a project that lets you create really simple webpages
by adding, editing and removing objects (images, text, ..) to your
page. To structure my code I do 2 things:
1.) I create classes for all objects on the page (for instance a
general object-class, that holds general functions for editing,
removing, etc and subclasses that inherit from the general class and
implement their specific editing etc-functions (like for editing
images, texts, etc)). Then I take the editable dom-elements of the
page and extend them with the methods of the classes (I extend an
editable image with the image-class etc) excluding methods like
initilize or constructor. That way I can make use of class-
inheritance and still have that sweet syntactic sugar like $
('myImage').edit() (actually it's $('myImage').rbEdit() because of
possible name-conflicts).

Now what I want to prevent is that a DOM-Object get's extended by same
class twice, because that would overwrite existing values, so I
thought I might save what classes an object has already been extended
with, and stop before it gets extended twice. But I'll think I'll
define the classname as a property in the class itself then, and maybe
throw an error if the classname has not been set.



On Dec 17, 3:08 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:
 Bernard,

 1. No need to be offensive. If you think a question is beneath you, by
 all means ignore it rather than moaning into everyone's mailbox.

 2. This question is almost certainly about Prototype's `Class`
 feature, not JavaScript. Yes, if you know JavaScript well you
 automatically know the answer to certain aspects of the question, but
 we were all new once, we all have limited time to read things, and we
 don't all learn perfectly reading general texts; sometimes we need our
 specific question answered in order to understand a broader concept.
 --
 T.J. Crowder
 Independent Software Engineer
 tj / crowder software / com
 www / crowder software / com

 On Dec 16, 5:02 pm, bernard bernard.christophe...@gmail.com wrote:



  I truly wish some people would take the trouble to buy a javascript book
  instead of off-topic-posting in this group... meh.
  b.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Is there a way to get the name of a class from within the class?

2010-12-17 Thread Luke
Hmm, that actually is a really good Idea. I already use my own
Class.create-method as discussed here
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous/browse_thread/thread/b7f516a73fb4113a
, so adding a unique id to this wouldn't be much of an effort. Thanks
again! :)

On Dec 17, 6:43 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Another option is to give the classes that you're using in this way a
 unique ID:
 * * * *
 (function() {
     var uniqueClassIDAllocator = 0;

     Class.createSpecial = Class_createSpecial;
     function Class_createSpecial() {
         var clz = Class.create.apply(Class, arguments);
         clz.classID = ++uniqueClassIDAllocator;
         return clz;
     }

 })();

 var MyCoolClass = Class.createSpecial(...);
 * * * *

 If you don't want to have a `createSpecial` function, you could always
 assign these IDs if/when a class is used to extend elements (e.g., in
 a lazy way), but I prefer the explicit `createSpecial` because it
 happens at the time the class is created, as an explicit action of the
 author.

 FWIW,

 -- T.J. :-)

 On Dec 17, 2:46 pm, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:



  Ok, thanks T.J.,

  I really wanted to get the name of the Class as a string. The reason
  is this:

  I'm working on a project that lets you create really simple webpages
  by adding, editing and removing objects (images, text, ..) to your
  page. To structure my code I do 2 things:
  1.) I create classes for all objects on the page (for instance a
  general object-class, that holds general functions for editing,
  removing, etc and subclasses that inherit from the general class and
  implement their specific editing etc-functions (like for editing
  images, texts, etc)). Then I take the editable dom-elements of the
  page and extend them with the methods of the classes (I extend an
  editable image with the image-class etc) excluding methods like
  initilize or constructor. That way I can make use of class-
  inheritance and still have that sweet syntactic sugar like $
  ('myImage').edit() (actually it's $('myImage').rbEdit() because of
  possible name-conflicts).

  Now what I want to prevent is that a DOM-Object get's extended by same
  class twice, because that would overwrite existing values, so I
  thought I might save what classes an object has already been extended
  with, and stop before it gets extended twice. But I'll think I'll
  define the classname as a property in the class itself then, and maybe
  throw an error if the classname has not been set.

  On Dec 17, 3:08 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:

   Bernard,

   1. No need to be offensive. If you think a question is beneath you, by
   all means ignore it rather than moaning into everyone's mailbox.

   2. This question is almost certainly about Prototype's `Class`
   feature, not JavaScript. Yes, if you know JavaScript well you
   automatically know the answer to certain aspects of the question, but
   we were all new once, we all have limited time to read things, and we
   don't all learn perfectly reading general texts; sometimes we need our
   specific question answered in order to understand a broader concept.
   --
   T.J. Crowder
   Independent Software Engineer
   tj / crowder software / com
   www / crowder software / com

   On Dec 16, 5:02 pm, bernard bernard.christophe...@gmail.com wrote:

I truly wish some people would take the trouble to buy a javascript book
instead of off-topic-posting in this group... meh.
b.

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[Proto-Scripty] Can I change what new [someClass] will return?

2010-12-16 Thread Luke
Hi,

if you define a Class like

--
var TestClass = Class.create({
initialize: function(element) {
element = $(element);
this.doFunkyStuffWithElement(element)
return element;
},
doFunkyStuffWithElement: function(element) { log(funky stuff
here) }
});
--

and you instantiate that Class

var myObject = new TestClass();

is there a way I can change it so (while namespacing my Class-Code so
Prototype's Class will remain untouched) that instantiation of that
class will return something different than what Prototype returns (in
my case a DOM-Object that has been extended with custom Methods)?


---
Why I want to do this: I'm working on a site where you can create
really simple webpages by adding, editing, and removing elements on
your page. To structure my code I make use of prototype's dom-
extending nature and its way of class-inheritance:
There is a base class for elements on the page which has methods for
editing and removing that object and so on. I subclass this base-class
for specific elements where I implement the specific editing/removing/
whatever-code. Now to map my functionality to the elements on the
page, I extend the DOM-Elements which you can edit/etc with the
methods and properties of the class, leaving out unnecessary
constructors etc.

But it is always a little annoying to extend an object with a class,
and then fetch that object again to work with it:

--
new EditablePicture($('the_element_I_extend'));
var my_element = $('the_element_I_extend');
my_element.do_something();
--

it would be nice to be able to do something like this:

--
var my_element = new EditablePicture($('the_element_I_extend'));
my_element.do_something();
--

Is that kind of stuff even possible?

Thank you
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Is there a way to get the name of a class from within the class?

2010-12-16 Thread Luke
Hi,

If you define a class like

var MyCoolClass = Class.create({

  initialize: function() {
// find out classname here
  }

});

can you get the name of the class from within itself? After all it's
just a variable-name, but is it somehow accessible?

Thank you
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Extending the Object-Class

2010-12-13 Thread Luke
Ok, thank you again, TJ

On Dec 11, 1:50 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:
 Hi,

 `Object` is deep in the core of JavaScript, not just Prototype.

 You can add static functions to `Object` fairly safely provided you
 use obscure names:

     Object.myReallyObscureMethodName = function() {
         // 
     };

 ...but as you mentioned, you will be susceptible to naming conflicts.

 What you must **never** do is add to `Object.prototype`:

     // DON'T DO THIS
     Object.prototype.myReallyObscureMethodName = function() {
         // 
     };

 If you do that (the way it's shown above), then just about every
 `for..in` loop in code running alongside yours will fail, because the
 above adds an enumerable `myReallyObscureMethodName` property to *all
 objects*:

     var name;
     for (name in {}) {
         alert(name); // This gets reached, and alerts
 myReallyObscureMethodName
     }

 ...and that's just a Bad Thing(tm). (As of ECMAScript 5th edition,
 it's *possible* to add non-enumerable properties to `Object.prototype`
 using special syntax, but I still wouldn't do it.)

 HTH,
 --
 T.J. Crowder
 Independent Software Engineer
 tj / crowder software / com
 www / crowder software / com

 On Dec 11, 12:07 am, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi,

  is it ok to extend Object (http://api.prototypejs.org/language/Object/
  ) with a custom function (I mean regarding name-conflicts, I want to
  name my function extendWrapped)? Or is it a Class that should better
  not be touched for some reason? It seems to be pretty deep in the core
  of Prototype, so I'm kinda cautious..

  Thanks
  Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Extending the Object-Class

2010-12-10 Thread Luke
Hi,

is it ok to extend Object ( http://api.prototypejs.org/language/Object/
) with a custom function (I mean regarding name-conflicts, I want to
name my function extendWrapped)? Or is it a Class that should better
not be touched for some reason? It seems to be pretty deep in the core
of Prototype, so I'm kinda cautious..

Thanks
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: How to create a new DOM-element from a string?

2010-12-08 Thread Luke
Hi Walter,

yes the string comes from an ajax call and is not guaranteed to always
follow the same pattern. However, by now I'm using prototype's
BlindDown-effect when inserting and that even requires me to have a
div wrapping what I want to insert (because of padding/margin), so
it's ok that it's there. But still thanks a lot for your help, now I
know that creating DOM just from a string needs a little workaround.
It will surely not be the last time I need this.

Thanks
Lukas

On Dec 7, 7:42 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:
 Is mystring what you get back from your Ajax request? Do you control  
 the server that sends it?

 If you want to end up with the Element div.something inserted  
 somewhere on your page, you could do this pretty simply:

 var mystring = 'ptext a href=#link/a/ppMore text/pimg  
 src=asd /';
 //mystring could also be the output from your Ajax request
 var myDomObject = new Element('div',{
         someProperty: someValue,
          someFunction: function() {}, ...}).update(mystring);

 myDomObject.addClassName('something');
 //no need to extend, 'new Element' is already extended
 $('myDiv').insert({top: myDomObject});

 So you create the outermost level of the DOM object using new Element,  
 and that gets you everything you need. You could also pass back from  
 your server a JSON graph of the desired element, and pass that to new  
 Element directly, and you could skip some of this.

 By the way, I do the addClassName thing separately to humor IE, which  
 doesn't seem to work when you define the classname in the new Element  
 parameters level. I haven't tracked this issue to see if it's been  
 fixed in newer versions of the library, I've just been doing it out of  
 habit. If anyone can confirm that this is now no longer needed, I'd be  
 happy to remove it and put it back in the parameters hash where I  
 believe it belongs.

 Walter

 On Dec 7, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Luke wrote:



  Ok, what I wanna do is this:

  -
  var mystring = 'div class=somethingptext a href=#link/a/
  ppMore text/pimg src=asd //div';

  var myDomObject = createDomFromString(mystring);

  var methodsAndProperties = {someProperty: someValue,
  someFunction: function() {}, ... };

  Object.extend(myDomObject, methodsAndProperties);

  $('myDiv').insert({top: myDomObject});
  -

  In normal words, what I want to do is create a DOM-Object BEFORE I
  insert it, so I can perform some extensions on it, and dont't have to
  do:

  -
  var mystring = 'div class=somethingptext a href=#link/a/
  ppMore text/pimg src=asd //div';

  var foo = new Element('div', {}).update(mystring);

  var myDomObject = foo.select('.something').first();

  Object.extend(myDomObject, methodsAndProperties);

  $('myDiv').insert({top: myDomObject});
  -

  or even insert it, and then search for it.

  On Dec 7, 5:10 pm, Rick.Wellman rick.well...@kiewit.com wrote:
  Is it just me,... I don't understand what you're even asking/trying  
  to accomplish?
  What kind of DOM object are you hoping to create?  Call it a  
  potayto, or a potahto but any element you insert the HTML into is  
  a wrapper.

  Apologies if this seems terse but I truly do not understand your  
  question/goal.

  -Original Message-
  From: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
  ] On Behalf Of Luke
  Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:59 AM
  To: Prototype  script.aculo.us
  Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: How to create a new DOM-element from a  
  string?

  Hm ok, hoped there would be a way I could generate a DOM object that
  consists of just the HTML (without wrapper) and before I insert it.

  On Dec 7, 4:52 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:
  That's because I called innerHTML on it at the end, and that  
  returns a
  string. If you then want to create a new element out of that, you
  could try inserting it into your page somewhere with

  $('someElementOnYourPage').insert({after: foo});

  Of you could just leave the innerHTML part off the end, which would
  leave foo populated with the outer wrapper object created by new
  Element...

  Walter

  On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:20 AM, Luke wrote:

  Hmm, damn. the returned value is still a string :(

  On Dec 7, 9:16 am, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Walter!

  On Dec 6, 6:28 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:

  On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

  It's OT for this list, but have a look at Prototype.js. You can
  create a new DOM element in memory, and do all the things you  
  want
  to it without ever showing it to the user.

  Sorry, this was completely bone-headed of me -- I thought I was  
  on
  another list.

  Walter

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Anything wrong with adding a function called 'click' to the global Element-namespace?

2010-12-07 Thread Luke
By now I just changed the name of the function to 'rbClick'. It's
ugly, but it shouldn't be problematic, should it?

On Dec 6, 10:39 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:
  some form controls (radio, checkbox, maybe others...) have a native
  click() method that toggles them, so that would be in conflict...

 Nice one, *exactly* why this sort of thing is not generally a good
 idea. Create a utility class to do it, etc., but putting them on the
 actual elements is asking for trouble.

 Re the `click` event on form controls (which are Elements, of 
 course):http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-DOM-Level-2-HTML-20030109/html.html#ID-...

 -- T.J. :-)

 On Dec 3, 6:16 am, Gappa pavel.linh...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi,

  some form controls (radio, checkbox, maybe others...) have a native
  click() method that toggles them, so that would be in conflict I
  suppose.

  Pavel

  On 2 pro, 10:36, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi,

   I think it's pretty annoying to write

   myelement.observe('click', function(event){
           // do stuff
           event.stop()

   });

   for every link etc for which you want to replace the click-
   functionality. So I added a Method to Element that does the observer-
   invoking and event-stopping for me and simply named it click. Like
   with jQuery, the event only keeps bubbling if the given eventHandler
   returns true.

   Element.addMethods({
           click: function(element, eventHandler) {
                   if (!(element = $(element))) return;
                   element.observe('click', function(event){
                           if(!eventHandler(event))
                                   event.stop()
                   });
                   return element;
           }

   });

   But I'm wondering. 'click' sounds like a name to me that could easily
   cause conflicts. It works in Safari and FF though. Does anyone know if
   there could be sideeffects or nameconflicts?

   Thanks
   Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: How to create a new DOM-element from a string?

2010-12-07 Thread Luke
Thanks Walter!

On Dec 6, 6:28 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:
 On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

  It's OT for this list, but have a look at Prototype.js. You can  
  create a new DOM element in memory, and do all the things you want  
  to it without ever showing it to the user.

 Sorry, this was completely bone-headed of me -- I thought I was on  
 another list.

 Walter

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: How to create a new DOM-element from a string?

2010-12-07 Thread Luke
Hmm, damn. the returned value is still a string :(

On Dec 7, 9:16 am, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Walter!

 On Dec 6, 6:28 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:



  On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

   It's OT for this list, but have a look at Prototype.js. You can  
   create a new DOM element in memory, and do all the things you want  
   to it without ever showing it to the user.

  Sorry, this was completely bone-headed of me -- I thought I was on  
  another list.

  Walter

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype class-instances sharing properties

2010-12-07 Thread Luke
Will try that, thank you yuval

On Dec 4, 8:44 pm, yuval dagan dag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 currently the rdBuff is shared between all instatces
 try to create the instance variable (here rdBuff) inside the initialize
 function
 and with the this keyword its not default  like in C++ etc...

 var SomeClass = Class.create({
  initialize: function(name) {
     this.rbBuffer = {};
   },

  setBuffer: function(val) {
    this.rbBuffer.test = val;
  },

 .
 .
 .

 hope it helped

 cheers

 yuval



 On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,

  I've got a weird behavior here, or rather a behavior I don't
  understand. If you take the following Class:

  ---
  var SomeClass = Class.create({

   rbBuffer: nulll,

   setBuffer: function(val) {
     this.rbBuffer = val;
   },

   getBuffer: function() {
     return this.rbBuffer;
   }
  });
  ---

  and play around a little bit:

  ---
  var c1 = new SomeClass();
  var c2 = new SomeClass();

  c1.setBuffer(true);
  c2.setBuffer(false);

  log(c1.getBuffer()); // PRINTS TRUE
  log(c2.getBuffer()); // PRINTS FALSE
  ---

  everything works as expected. But if you alter that class and make
  rbBuffer a JSON-object and try to set/get properties of that object,
  it kinda gets shared:

  ---
  var SomeClass = Class.create({

   rbBuffer: {},

   setBuffer: function(val) {
     this.rbBuffer.test = val;
   },

   getBuffer: function() {
     return this.rbBuffer.test;
   }
  });

  var c1 = new SomeClass();
  var c2 = new SomeClass();

  c1.setBuffer(true);
  c2.setBuffer(false);

  log(c1.getBuffer()); // PRINTS FALSE
  log(c2.getBuffer()); // PRINTS FALSE
  ---

  rbBuffer.test of the first object is overwritten with the value you
  set on the second object, as if the use the same variable.

  Does anyone know why this is, and how to work with it?

  Thanks
  Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Observe once

2010-12-07 Thread Luke
Hi,

I'm doing an internship in a company where they bought a script for
modals called 'Lightview' ( http://www.nickstakenburg.com/projects/lightview/
), so I'm kinda stuck with using it. The problem is that instead of
many other libraries, you cannot pass lightview any callbackfunctions
as parameters. That means the only way to react on, lets say, when
lightview is done opening or closing is to observe global events that
will be fired in such cases.

So if I want to do something when lightview closes I need to observe
'lightview:hidden', but I do not -always- react on this event with a
given behaviour since there are many cases for which lightview is
shown. I just want to react to the close even just this one time.

So I thought, maybe I could write an observer, that kills its self
after it has been executed. I tried this:

var discardAll = function(event) {
  // Do stuff
  document.stopObserving('lightview:hidden', discardAll);
}

document.observe('lightview:hidden', discardAll);

But this doesn't work. I must say I don't really have much clue of
stoping specific observers in the first place, so I'm wondering if
this is even the right way to stop an observer

Thanks,
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: How to create a new DOM-element from a string?

2010-12-07 Thread Luke
Hm ok, hoped there would be a way I could generate a DOM object that
consists of just the HTML (without wrapper) and before I insert it.

On Dec 7, 4:52 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:
 That's because I called innerHTML on it at the end, and that returns a  
 string. If you then want to create a new element out of that, you  
 could try inserting it into your page somewhere with

 $('someElementOnYourPage').insert({after: foo});

 Of you could just leave the innerHTML part off the end, which would  
 leave foo populated with the outer wrapper object created by new  
 Element...

 Walter

 On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:20 AM, Luke wrote:



  Hmm, damn. the returned value is still a string :(

  On Dec 7, 9:16 am, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Walter!

  On Dec 6, 6:28 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:

  On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

  It's OT for this list, but have a look at Prototype.js. You can
  create a new DOM element in memory, and do all the things you want
  to it without ever showing it to the user.

  Sorry, this was completely bone-headed of me -- I thought I was on
  another list.

  Walter

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: How to create a new DOM-element from a string?

2010-12-07 Thread Luke
Ok, what I wanna do is this:

-
var mystring = 'div class=somethingptext a href=#link/a/
ppMore text/pimg src=asd //div';

var myDomObject = createDomFromString(mystring);

var methodsAndProperties = {someProperty: someValue,
someFunction: function() {}, ... };

Object.extend(myDomObject, methodsAndProperties);

$('myDiv').insert({top: myDomObject});
-

In normal words, what I want to do is create a DOM-Object BEFORE I
insert it, so I can perform some extensions on it, and dont't have to
do:

-
var mystring = 'div class=somethingptext a href=#link/a/
ppMore text/pimg src=asd //div';

var foo = new Element('div', {}).update(mystring);

var myDomObject = foo.select('.something').first();

Object.extend(myDomObject, methodsAndProperties);

$('myDiv').insert({top: myDomObject});
-

or even insert it, and then search for it.


On Dec 7, 5:10 pm, Rick.Wellman rick.well...@kiewit.com wrote:
 Is it just me,... I don't understand what you're even asking/trying to 
 accomplish?
 What kind of DOM object are you hoping to create?  Call it a potayto, or a 
 potahto but any element you insert the HTML into is a wrapper.  

 Apologies if this seems terse but I truly do not understand your 
 question/goal.



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 From: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Luke
 Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:59 AM
 To: Prototype  script.aculo.us
 Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: How to create a new DOM-element from a string?

 Hm ok, hoped there would be a way I could generate a DOM object that
 consists of just the HTML (without wrapper) and before I insert it.

 On Dec 7, 4:52 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:
  That's because I called innerHTML on it at the end, and that returns a  
  string. If you then want to create a new element out of that, you  
  could try inserting it into your page somewhere with

  $('someElementOnYourPage').insert({after: foo});

  Of you could just leave the innerHTML part off the end, which would  
  leave foo populated with the outer wrapper object created by new  
  Element...

  Walter

  On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:20 AM, Luke wrote:

   Hmm, damn. the returned value is still a string :(

   On Dec 7, 9:16 am, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:
   Thanks Walter!

   On Dec 6, 6:28 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:

   On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

   It's OT for this list, but have a look at Prototype.js. You can
   create a new DOM element in memory, and do all the things you want
   to it without ever showing it to the user.

   Sorry, this was completely bone-headed of me -- I thought I was on
   another list.

   Walter

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[Proto-Scripty] How to create a new DOM-element from a string?

2010-12-06 Thread Luke
Hi,

I'm loading some plain HTML via Ajax.Request and insert it in a DIV. I
need to perform some extensions on the HTML I load though, which
brought me to the idea to create DOM from the loaded markup, extend it
and insert it.

So my question is: Is there a convenient way to create DOM from a
string of HTML-markup? The only way I found, or have been told, is to
create a DIV with new Element, insert the markup in it, and remove the
DIV again. But I find that kinda hacky. Isn't there a good way for
this?

Thanks
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Prototype class-instances sharing properties

2010-12-04 Thread Luke
Hi,

I've got a weird behavior here, or rather a behavior I don't
understand. If you take the following Class:

---
var SomeClass = Class.create({

  rbBuffer: nulll,

  setBuffer: function(val) {
this.rbBuffer = val;
  },

  getBuffer: function() {
return this.rbBuffer;
  }
});
---

and play around a little bit:

---
var c1 = new SomeClass();
var c2 = new SomeClass();

c1.setBuffer(true);
c2.setBuffer(false);

log(c1.getBuffer()); // PRINTS TRUE
log(c2.getBuffer()); // PRINTS FALSE
---

everything works as expected. But if you alter that class and make
rbBuffer a JSON-object and try to set/get properties of that object,
it kinda gets shared:

---
var SomeClass = Class.create({

  rbBuffer: {},

  setBuffer: function(val) {
this.rbBuffer.test = val;
  },

  getBuffer: function() {
return this.rbBuffer.test;
  }
});

var c1 = new SomeClass();
var c2 = new SomeClass();

c1.setBuffer(true);
c2.setBuffer(false);

log(c1.getBuffer()); // PRINTS FALSE
log(c2.getBuffer()); // PRINTS FALSE
---

rbBuffer.test of the first object is overwritten with the value you
set on the second object, as if the use the same variable.

Does anyone know why this is, and how to work with it?

Thanks
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Anything wrong with adding a function called 'click' to the global Element-namespace?

2010-12-02 Thread Luke
Hi,

I think it's pretty annoying to write

myelement.observe('click', function(event){
// do stuff
event.stop()
});

for every link etc for which you want to replace the click-
functionality. So I added a Method to Element that does the observer-
invoking and event-stopping for me and simply named it click. Like
with jQuery, the event only keeps bubbling if the given eventHandler
returns true.

Element.addMethods({
click: function(element, eventHandler) {
if (!(element = $(element))) return;
element.observe('click', function(event){
if(!eventHandler(event))
event.stop()
});
return element;
}
});

But I'm wondering. 'click' sounds like a name to me that could easily
cause conflicts. It works in Safari and FF though. Does anyone know if
there could be sideeffects or nameconflicts?

Thanks
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Class Inheritance Properties

2010-11-29 Thread Luke
Hi there!

Is there a way you can inherit from a class and extend a property from
the parent class with the same property of the subclass? Like if I
have the following 2 classes:

=== ===

var Section = Class.create({

  attach: function(element) {
Object.extend(element, this.extension);
  }

  extension: {
// Methods and properties here
  }
}

=== and ===

var SectionText = Class.create(Section, {

  extension: {
// More methods and properties here
  }

});

=== ===

is somehow possible to extend the extension-property of the parent
class with the extension-property of the subclass rather than
replacing it? Can I maybe somehow access the parent's property from
the subclass to manually extend it?

Thanks,
Luke

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Class Inheritance Properties

2010-11-29 Thread Luke
Thanks. Fermion in the Prototype-IRC also told me the same thing. But
he said you cannot access the parent's property. It will be
overwritten by the child. Is that true or do you know any way to
access it from the child? $super just seems to contain the parent's
method that has the same name like the child's method it is passed
to... .

On Nov 29, 1:23 pm, Johan Arensman johanm...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can use the $super parameter name to access the property of the parent
 class.

 See:http://api.prototypejs.org/language/Class/create/



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi there!

  Is there a way you can inherit from a class and extend a property from
  the parent class with the same property of the subclass? Like if I
  have the following 2 classes:

  === ===

  var Section = Class.create({

   attach: function(element) {
     Object.extend(element, this.extension);
   }

   extension: {
     // Methods and properties here
   }
  }

  === and ===

  var SectionText = Class.create(Section, {

   extension: {
     // More methods and properties here
   }

  });

  === ===

  is somehow possible to extend the extension-property of the parent
  class with the extension-property of the subclass rather than
  replacing it? Can I maybe somehow access the parent's property from
  the subclass to manually extend it?

  Thanks,
  Luke

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[Proto-Scripty] Is it possible to add multiple funtions to an Ajax-callback like onSuccess?

2010-11-29 Thread Luke
Hi

the topic says it all. Can you somehow call multiple functions for a
callback of Ajax.Request? Like


new Ajax.Request(url, {
  onSuccess: [function(){}, function(){}]
});

I know emthat/em doesn't work. But is there maybe another way?
I've seen there are Ajax.Responders ( 
http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/responders
) but I couldn't figure out how that works.

Thank you
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Is it possible to add multiple funtions to an Ajax-callback like onSuccess?

2010-11-29 Thread Luke
On Nov 29, 7:19 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:
 Will that work for you?

Indeed! Thought things were more complicated ;). Thanks!

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Extending a DOM-Object

2010-11-22 Thread Luke
Thank you Mr Crowder, that was quite informative.

Still I'm a little unsure how to proceed. If I got this right, it is
common sense now that extending the DOM is the wrong thing to do. One
of the main reasons is the possibility of name-conflicts. So I thought
I might extend Objects with a JSON-Object (called 'builder' in my
case) which contains all my methods and properties to (sort of) have
my own namespace. But that would require a circular reference in my
builder-object to the DOM-Element it is attached to (so the methods in
my builder-object can work on the DOM they are attached to).

I'm wondering if there's any way to keep that nice programming-
paradigm prototype introduced with it's $-function, that you can
simply write $('myelement').myfunction() while avoiding the above-
mentioned problems. I could write my own wrapper-method, like jQuery's
$-function, but that would miss the whole point of working with
prototype.

How do other people work with this?

Luke


On Nov 22, 7:37 am, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:
 Hi Luke,

 What you're talking about doing is called an expando property.
 They're not covered by a standard AFAIK, although interestingly
 Microsoft has an `expando` property on objects[1] (this is where the
 name came from) which is a boolean saying whether you can do this. If
 you do a web search on expando you'll find a lot more information
 (and a studio album by Timothy B. Schmit, but leave that aside...).
 (Ignore the statement on GreaseSpot that expandos relate to custom
 attributes; they don't, the article is just wrong.)

 Prototype uses expando properties like mad (the whole concept of
 extending an element[2] relies on expandos, and Prototype uses them
 elsewhere as well), so if you're using Prototype, you're already
 relying on the environment allowing expandos. But it's probably worth
 noting that Prototype is moving away from expandos at some point in
 favor of doing a jQuery-like wrapper thing instead.

 I'd avoid having your expando property value (directly or indirectly)
 reference another DOM element, as that sets up the possibility of
 circular references, and circular references that dip between the DOM
 and JavaScript layers can cause memory leaks on IE.

 [1]http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms533747(VS.85).aspx
 [2]http://prototypejs.org/learn/extensions

 Happy coding,
 --
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 Independent Software Engineer
 tj / crowder software / com
 www / crowder software / com

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  Thanks Walter. If that's the only reason I'm willing to take that
  risk. In my whole application I will only attach one variable, kind of
  like my namespace and this will give me some convenience when
  accessing that namespace. If it's conform to W3C standards and works
  in all browsers, I think it's ok. But is it? Can't find any
  documentation or specification on this

  Luke

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   I think that the basic reason for the separate store is to provide  
   insulation from any current, past, or future browsers tramping on a  
   key name you may choose today and test in some subset of all browsers.  
   Browser scripting is fun enough in IE with its amusing conflation of  
   Name and ID properties without getting into the weeds with a perfectly-
   safe-seeming data element being confused for some completely other  
   property or method.

   Walter

   On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Luke wrote:

Hi,

is there anyting wrong with extending a DOM-Object with

$('myelement').myvariable = something;

or why is there the prototype-method store, which saves values in a
seperate hash?

Thank you,
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[Proto-Scripty] Extending a DOM-Object

2010-11-21 Thread Luke
Hi,

is there anyting wrong with extending a DOM-Object with

$('myelement').myvariable = something;

or why is there the prototype-method store, which saves values in a
seperate hash?

Thank you,
Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Extending a DOM-Object

2010-11-21 Thread Luke
Thanks Walter. If that's the only reason I'm willing to take that
risk. In my whole application I will only attach one variable, kind of
like my namespace and this will give me some convenience when
accessing that namespace. If it's conform to W3C standards and works
in all browsers, I think it's ok. But is it? Can't find any
documentation or specification on this

Luke


On Nov 21, 8:50 pm, Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com wrote:
 I think that the basic reason for the separate store is to provide  
 insulation from any current, past, or future browsers tramping on a  
 key name you may choose today and test in some subset of all browsers.  
 Browser scripting is fun enough in IE with its amusing conflation of  
 Name and ID properties without getting into the weeds with a perfectly-
 safe-seeming data element being confused for some completely other  
 property or method.

 Walter

 On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Luke wrote:



  Hi,

  is there anyting wrong with extending a DOM-Object with

  $('myelement').myvariable = something;

  or why is there the prototype-method store, which saves values in a
  seperate hash?

  Thank you,
  Lukas

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: How should I model this if extending the DOM is bad?

2010-11-07 Thread Luke
Sorry, I don't understand. How would you store a reference to the
Object in the paragraph?

Or would you keep a list (or an array) of paragraph-objects that have
a reference to the paragraph-DOM-Element?

On Nov 6, 7:33 pm, buda www...@pochta.ru wrote:
 Keep reference to the object in storage of a paragraph, video and etc

 On 4 ноя, 23:09, Luke kickingje...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi,

  sorry for the non-descriptive topic, I couldn't think of anything
  better. However, I'm currently working on a project where you can
  create simple webpages by adding different types of paragraphs, (eg.
  Text, Image, Video) one below the other, and edit their contents, move
  or delete them. Basically like this:

 http://blogage.de/files/60901/image

  Im rewriting the JS and I have a little problem here; I recently read
  that extending the DOM is basically a bad idea and that in Prototype 2
  they will even stop that practice. Now my idea (actually) was, for a
  project like this, to create classes for each paragraph-type with
  methods and properties that I would extend the paragraph-DOM with. I
  mean that if I had, like in the above image, three paragraphs, each
  would be represented by a DIV with the class=paragraph text or
  class=paragraph video etc. On the JS-side there would be classes
  like Text or Video which would have a method that would extend
  those DIVs with functions and properties necessary to edit, move or
  delete that paragraph. When, for example, the user clicks on an
  editlink, it simply would call its paragraph's edit-method. Everything
  would be nice and clean.

  But now I know, extending is bad. So I'm kinda stuck here, I don't
  know how to write unobtrusive JS without writing terrible spaghetti-
  esque code with lots of observers. I mean I could still organize parts
  of the code in classes, but there would be a long list of observers
  (eg. for clicking an edit-link) with switch-cases for the types of
  paragraphs. Actually even with extending the DOM I'm not totally sure
  how I would catch the edit-clicking event. As I said, I'm kind of
  stuck :). Can you help me with ideas? How would you do this?

  Thanks a lot,
  Luke

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[Proto-Scripty] How should I model this if extending the DOM is bad?

2010-11-04 Thread Luke
Hi,

sorry for the non-descriptive topic, I couldn't think of anything
better. However, I'm currently working on a project where you can
create simple webpages by adding different types of paragraphs, (eg.
Text, Image, Video) one below the other, and edit their contents, move
or delete them. Basically like this:

http://blogage.de/files/60901/image

Im rewriting the JS and I have a little problem here; I recently read
that extending the DOM is basically a bad idea and that in Prototype 2
they will even stop that practice. Now my idea (actually) was, for a
project like this, to create classes for each paragraph-type with
methods and properties that I would extend the paragraph-DOM with. I
mean that if I had, like in the above image, three paragraphs, each
would be represented by a DIV with the class=paragraph text or
class=paragraph video etc. On the JS-side there would be classes
like Text or Video which would have a method that would extend
those DIVs with functions and properties necessary to edit, move or
delete that paragraph. When, for example, the user clicks on an
editlink, it simply would call its paragraph's edit-method. Everything
would be nice and clean.

But now I know, extending is bad. So I'm kinda stuck here, I don't
know how to write unobtrusive JS without writing terrible spaghetti-
esque code with lots of observers. I mean I could still organize parts
of the code in classes, but there would be a long list of observers
(eg. for clicking an edit-link) with switch-cases for the types of
paragraphs. Actually even with extending the DOM I'm not totally sure
how I would catch the edit-clicking event. As I said, I'm kind of
stuck :). Can you help me with ideas? How would you do this?

Thanks a lot,
Luke

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