Re: Who's on First, IDLE or pythonWin? Dialog Problem?
The two separate loops being PyWin (which uses MFC) and your program (which uses Tkinter). You just can't mix GUIs in the same process like that, sorry. regards Stedve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ Deja-vu! http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2001-March/076069.html The question now is what can I do about it? reboot? Just to re-iterate the answer I provided the answer to above, I'm using Tkinter for the program's GUI. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Who's on First, IDLE or pythonWin? Dialog Problem?
So, how do I get rid of it? reboot? Just to re-iterate the I provided the question to above, I'm using Tkinter for the program's GUI. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Who's on First, IDLE or pythonWin? Dialog Problem?
It looks like I got an accidentally case of send message 3 times. Well, here's a correct below. The question now is what can I do about it? reboot? Just to re-iterate the answer I provided to *the question to a post above*, I'm using Tkinter for the program's GUI. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
MRAB wrote: W. eWatson wrote: ... I thought some months ago, I found Google commands that would operate in the browser link window. Guess not. BTW, isn't there an O'Reilly book on Google hacks of this sort? Where else does one find out about these Google tools? Google? :-) http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=136861 Thanks. I may have that book marked from many, many months ago. If so, I see why I'd never find it. The BM entry does not show Google. It does now. ;-) -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
... The use of letmegooglethatforyou (not my video tool, by the way) is to point out that with the right search string you could have answered the question for yourself. Since you didn't appear to know that Google allowed you to search a single site (something I perhaps take for granted) I am glad that point wasn't lost. Yes, you can just search the PIL documentation. Isn't the Internet great? ;-) regards Steve Yes, I agree on the internet, and I now see letme...com. So, I've now tried in my browser's link window: site:effbot.org/tkinterbook tkfiledialog, and get site is not a registered protocol. If I put the site:... in the Google window,it works fine. In fact it's quite clever. I thought some months ago, I found Google commands that would operate in the browser link window. Guess not. BTW, isn't there an O'Reilly book on Google hacks of this sort? Where else does one find out about these Google tools? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
Steve Holden wrote: W. eWatson wrote: Steve Holden wrote: W. eWatson wrote: r wrote: On Jan 28, 10:12 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Where in the world is a description of pack() for Tkinter widgets? Is it some sort of general method for all widgets? I'm looking in a few docs that use it without ever saying where it is described. For one, http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/label.htm. In the NM Tech pdf on Tkinter, it's not found anywhere. I see Universal methods for widgets, but no mention of pack(). package, packed, but no pack. did you try here :) http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/pack.htm Thanks. I have the site bookmarked, but it's hard to search. I posted a comment to them that they should have it in pdf form. http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=site%3Aeffbot.org%2Ftkinterbook+pack regards Steve Well, that's an interesting link. Another side of Google facilities? Maybe you're using Snagit or its brethern? However, I'm interested in searching a pdf, which, of course, doesn't yet exist. OK, someone asked if you'd seen the HTML pages. You replied that you had them bookmarked but they were difficult to search. So I simply demonstrated that a search of the site for pack gave the right page as its first result. Maybe you *do* want a PDF, but it will be less searchable than the existing HTML, so I am somewhat confused about why. regards Steve So what are you telling me? I should use Google to search the web site? If so, I guess I missed the method you used. Apparently, it hinges on the key site: The use of your video tool camouflaged your intent, IMHO. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
Steve Holden wrote: W. eWatson wrote: r wrote: On Jan 28, 10:12 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Where in the world is a description of pack() for Tkinter widgets? Is it some sort of general method for all widgets? I'm looking in a few docs that use it without ever saying where it is described. For one, http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/label.htm. In the NM Tech pdf on Tkinter, it's not found anywhere. I see Universal methods for widgets, but no mention of pack(). package, packed, but no pack. did you try here :) http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/pack.htm Thanks. I have the site bookmarked, but it's hard to search. I posted a comment to them that they should have it in pdf form. http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=site%3Aeffbot.org%2Ftkinterbook+pack regards Steve Well, that's an interesting link. Another side of Google facilities? Maybe you're using Snagit or its brethern? However, I'm interested in searching a pdf, which, of course, doesn't yet exist. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:55:13 -0200, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:57:04 -0200, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net escribió: The word pack doesn't exist on the NMT pdf. Maybe there's a newer one? There is a PDF version of An Introduction to Tkinter here: http://www.pythonware.com/library/ Thanks. I have it but it's an odd one to search on pack(. There may be over 100 reference to pack(. It's probably explained there somewhere, but how many times do I want to press the search key? I have it printed out too. I guess I need to eyeball it. It's probably faster. Maybe find the section (geometry?) where it and others like it are found. There is an index, but it's a pitiful one page. Uh? The very first occurence of pack is in the Table of Contents, The pack geometry manager. (You may want to improve your search skills :) ) Yes, that's correct, but I was looking for pack(. It all depends on one's perspective on how to search. I'll not labor the point. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python Doc 2.6 vs 2.5--A Matter of Format?
I see http://www.python.org/doc/2.5/ for 2.5 and http://docs.python.org/ for 2.6. I'm guessing these two pages differ somewhat in formats simply because someone decided to do so, and not that I'm in the wrong place for each of the two versions, correct? For example, somewhere down in the 2.5, I should find the 2.6 equivalent of http://docs.python.org/genindex.html? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:57:04 -0200, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net escribió: The word pack doesn't exist on the NMT pdf. Maybe there's a newer one? There is a PDF version of An Introduction to Tkinter here: http://www.pythonware.com/library/ Thanks. I have it but it's an odd one to search on pack(. There may be over 100 reference to pack(. It's probably explained there somewhere, but how many times do I want to press the search key? I have it printed out too. I guess I need to eyeball it. It's probably faster. Maybe find the section (geometry?) where it and others like it are found. There is an index, but it's a pitiful one page. Found in Chapter 34. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
r wrote: On Jan 28, 10:57 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The word pack doesn't exist on the NMT pdf. Maybe there's a newer one? Only the grid manager is discussed at NMT. I just like how at NMT the widget attributes are in a table and then a list the widget methods follows below that -- much better navigation. I talked again to John at NMT and he assured me very soon he's going to make all the updates. It would probably help if you sent him a nice message of encouragement like -- 'Can you please update the documentation, i really like the sites layout?' -- but please don't forget to thank him for all his contributions to the Python community. I am currently crusading to have all the old Python tuts and documentation updated(among other crusades). This was my second win and i hope that more will follow. The python docs out there need a dusting off and spit shining. I fully agree with your assessment of their state. I might not want him to update the NMT. :-) Why would that be. I just had it printed. Another $8! I'm kidding, of course. Not only is it a good layout, I think it's the best layout out there, IMHO. I'll contact him. I think one of his other pdf files needs updating too. Possibly the one for PIL. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Drawing and Displaying an Image with PIL
r wrote: Change this line: draw.line((0,0),(20,140), fill=128) To This: draw.line((0,0, 20,140), fill=128) And you should be good to go. Like you said, if you need to combine 2 tuples you can do: (1,2)+(3,4) Yes, that's true, but the big question is how to see the final image? Either one employees another module or writes the file into a folder, then displays it with a paint program? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Drawing and Displaying an Image with PIL
Peter Otten wrote: W. eWatson wrote: r wrote: Change this line: draw.line((0,0),(20,140), fill=128) To This: draw.line((0,0, 20,140), fill=128) And you should be good to go. Like you said, if you need to combine 2 tuples you can do: (1,2)+(3,4) Yes, that's true, but the big question is how to see the final image? Either one employees another module or writes the file into a folder, then displays it with a paint program? For debugging purposes you can just invoke the show() method im = Image.open(...) # modify image im.show() If you want to integrate the image into your own Tkinter program -- that is explained here: http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/photoimage.htm Following these instruction you code might become import Tkinter as tk import Image import ImageTk import ImageDraw import sys filename = sys.argv[1] im = Image.open(filename) draw = ImageDraw.Draw(im) draw.line((0, 0) + im.size, fill=128) draw.line(((0,0),(20,140)), fill=128) root = tk.Tk() pi = ImageTk.PhotoImage(im) label = tk.Label(root, image=pi) label.pack() root.mainloop() Peter My initial quest was to do it in PIL. That seems impossible, and the way out is Tkinter. I'm not yet savvy enough with Pythons graphics. I was definitely leaning towards PhotoImage as the way out. What module is show in? Repairing my (0,0), ... to (0,0)+, and. replacing arg with ImageOPen, produces a correct solution. My NM Tech pdf misses the boat on PhotoImage. I've seen your reference before, but never looked at PhotoImage. I'll bookmark it. I sure wish it was in pdf format. Thanks. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Tkinter w.pack()?
Where in the world is a description of pack() for Tkinter widgets? Is it some sort of general method for all widgets? I'm looking in a few docs that use it without ever saying where it is described. For one, http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/label.htm. In the NM Tech pdf on Tkinter, it's not found anywhere. I see Universal methods for widgets, but no mention of pack(). package, packed, but no pack. While I'm at it, what is w in the result of w = Label(parent, image=photo)? Just a widget pointer, address? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
r wrote: On Jan 28, 10:12 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Where in the world is a description of pack() for Tkinter widgets? Is it some sort of general method for all widgets? I'm looking in a few docs that use it without ever saying where it is described. For one, http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/label.htm. In the NM Tech pdf on Tkinter, it's not found anywhere. I see Universal methods for widgets, but no mention of pack(). package, packed, but no pack. did you try here :) http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/pack.htm Thanks. I have the site bookmarked, but it's hard to search. I posted a comment to them that they should have it in pdf form. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tkinter w.pack()?
r wrote: To expand on this there exists three geometry mangers [grid, pack, place]. I personally use pack() the most, grid() almost never, and place -- well never. But each one has it's strengths and weaknesses. w.grid() http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/grid.htm w.place() http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/place.htm There seems to be a pattern here. :-) Everything you need to know about Tkinter exists here: http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/ and at the NMT site i showed you before The word pack doesn't exist on the NMT pdf. Maybe there's a newer one? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Drawing and Displaying an Image with PIL
Here's my program: # fun and games import Image, ImageDraw im = Image.open(wagon.tif) # it exists in the same Win XP # folder as the program draw = ImageDraw.Draw(im) draw.line((0, 0) + im.size, fill=128) draw.line((0,0),(20,140), fill=128) # How show this final image on a display? root.mainloop() It has two problems. One is it crashes with: draw.line((0,0),(20,140), fill=128) TypeError: line() got multiple values for keyword argument 'fill' Secondly, it has no way to display the image drawn on. Is it possible, or do I have to pass the image off to another module's methods? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Drawing and Displaying an Image with PIL
r wrote: On Jan 27, 9:15 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Here's my program: # fun and games import Image, ImageDraw im = Image.open(wagon.tif) # it exists in the same Win XP # folder as the program draw = ImageDraw.Draw(im) draw.line((0, 0) + im.size, fill=128) draw.line((0,0),(20,140), fill=128) # How show this final image on a display? root.mainloop() It has two problems. One is it crashes with: draw.line((0,0),(20,140), fill=128) TypeError: line() got multiple values for keyword argument 'fill' Secondly, it has no way to display the image drawn on. Is it possible, or do I have to pass the image off to another module's methods? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ I have not tried your code but i think you need to put your coodinates in one tuple. Here is an example from the docs Example Example: Draw a Grey Cross Over an Image import Image, ImageDraw im = Image.open(lena.pgm) draw = ImageDraw.Draw(im) draw.line((0, 0) + im.size, fill=128) draw.line((0, im.size[1], im.size[0], 0), fill=128) del draw # write to stdout im.save(sys.stdout, PNG) Hope that helps That's pretty much the code I used. In fact, I borrowed it from the pdf. I just tried it, and it output %PNG. I'd like to see this displayed in a window. If the fine had written properly, I could see whether it really drew the lines. It did not fail on the same draw stmts in my program. I see my problem, , instead of + between the tuples. I thought I'd seen another example where the 2-d tuples could be separated. I see a ImageFile module, but it's not for writing image files simply. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is intvar? [Python Docs]
r wrote: W. eWatson, I contacted the author of New Mexico Techs Introduction to Tkinter a couple of weeks ago. He is going to update the reference material with a few missing widgets and some info on Photo and Bitmap classes. I really love the NMT layout and use it quite often. Fredricks Tkinterbook is more detail but lacking in navigation. I swing back and forth between both sites. Good. Thanks. I think Lundh might have taken his material to book form. I might be repeating myself here, but If anyone has pdf experience, and could provide page numbers and maybe a TOC for some of Lundh's contributions, that would be helpful. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is intvar?
Steve Holden wrote: W. eWatson wrote: W. eWatson wrote: r wrote: here is a good explanation of control vars: http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/control-variables.html Here are 3 great Tkinter refernces in order: http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/ http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/ http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/ Thanks to all for the reference and tips. tkinterbook is easy to follow, but it seems to have been abandoned in 2005. Did it appear in another guise somewhere else? There hasn't been a lot of development on Tkinter in the intervening period. It's a mature system, so there has been no need to update the documentation. regards Steve Unfortunately, the author seems to have stopped mid-stream. I see a fair number of FIXMEs in it. It looks like the New Mexico pdf is a fitting replacement. Perhaps Intro to Tkinter should be scrapped? Another of the author's writings, on PIL, looks good as a pdf, but is missing a TOC. Maybe some pdf knowledgeable person knows how to generate one easily. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is intvar?
W. eWatson wrote: r wrote: here is a good explanation of control vars: http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/control-variables.html Here are 3 great Tkinter refernces in order: http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/ http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/ http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/ Thanks to all for the reference and tips. tkinterbook is easy to follow, but it seems to have been abandoned in 2005. Did it appear in another guise somewhere else? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is intvar?
r wrote: here is a good explanation of control vars: http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/control-variables.html Here are 3 great Tkinter refernces in order: http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/ http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/ http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/ Thanks to all for the reference and tips. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
What is intvar?
I'm looking at someone's code in which invar() is used fairly often. Apparently, it's a Tkinter method. Here's a use: def body(self,master): self.title(Display Settings) self.colorVar = IntVar() Radiobutton( master, text=Gray Scale, value=1, variable=self.colorVar).grid(row=0, sticky=W) Radiobutton( master, text=Pseudo Color, value=2, variable=self.colorVar).grid(row=1, sticky=W) ... What is the need for this use? It looks like some sort of initialization for a widget. I've scoured the internet with Google, and have yet to find a simple explanation of what it's used for. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Python Together with Regular Python) ((DLE)
John Machin wrote: On Jan 12, 2:00 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I installed Python 2.5 a few months ago with IDLE, and decided I'd like to try windowpy from ActiveState. Is having both of these installed going to cause me trouble? What is windowpy from ActiveState? If you mean you wanted to try the PythonWin IDE instead of IDLE, all you needed to do was go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/ hit the big download button and make sure you get the 2.5 version (it's the default atm) and install it. Yes, I want to try the PythonWin IDE instead of IDLE. (DLE was a typo. Is it possible to just disable the vanilla (IDLE) version? I may want to switch between the two. Most users of the program I'm about to modify use the vanilla version. At some point, I may want to go back to it to verify that in their world all is OK. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Python Together with Regular Python) ((DLE)
John Machin wrote: On Jan 12, 9:16 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: John Machin wrote: On Jan 12, 2:00 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I installed Python 2.5 a few months ago with IDLE, and decided I'd like to try windowpy from ActiveState. Is having both of these installed going to cause me trouble? What is windowpy from ActiveState? If you mean you wanted to try the PythonWin IDE instead of IDLE, all you needed to do was go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/hit the big download button and make sure you get the 2.5 version (it's the default atm) and install it. Yes, I want to try the PythonWin IDE instead of IDLE. (DLE was a typo. Is it possible to just disable the vanilla (IDLE) version? I may want to switch between the two. Most users of the program I'm about to modify use the vanilla version. At some point, I may want to go back to it to verify that in their world all is OK. I'll try again. All you need is (a) the official distribution of Python 2.5 for Windows from http://www.python.org (b) the pywin32 package from the URL I gave you. Install both. Click on Start / All Programs/ Python 2.5 and will find *BOTH* IDLE and PythonWin. You and/ or your users can use IDLE or PythonWin, only one copy of Python, no conflicts. Why do you think you need to disable IDLE? Just don't use it. Once upon a time, six months ago, I asked a similar question and the answer was more complex. I decided to put this off until I truly needed it. Even better than Start, for me, is that I can choose PythonWin or IDLE from the right-click menu which I want. I do see a choice there of Open With- Python. I can see it executed properly, but which 2.5 did it use? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Where Find Activestate Python 2.5?
I went to their site and the only choice seems 2.6. I looked around and found no other choices. Is it possible to get 2.5? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Where Find Activestate Python 2.5?
John Machin wrote: On Jan 12, 9:55 am, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I went to their site and the only choice seems 2.6. I looked around and found no other choices. Is it possible to get 2.5? What do you see when you go to http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads/ and scroll down? I see 3.0, 2.6.1, 2.6, 2.5.2. That's correct. If I try to get there (downloads) via starting with the home page (click Python tab), select ActivePython in the Community, then I see http://www.activestate.com/activepython/ one large icon button that takes me to 2.6. If instead of using the button, I select ActiveState Downloads, then I get to http://www.activestate.com/downloads/. I see ActivePython among the Developer Tools. Using that gets me to http://www.activestate.com/activepython/, the big download 2.6 button again. Nowhere did I get your url. An interesting maze. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ActiveState Python Together with Regular Python) ((DLE)
I installed Python 2.5 a few months ago with IDLE, and decided I'd like to try windowpy from ActiveState. Is having both of these installed going to cause me trouble? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: WinMerge--B/W Shading of Printed Copy to Show Differences?
W. eWatson wrote: Jason Scheirer wrote: On Dec 16, 3:56 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Is there a way to highlight differences between the two files when printing in b/w? Help suggests there may be some texturing, but all I see is color choices. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ WinMerge is written in C++ and not even remotely related to Python. Well, yes, but it has applicability to Python (and maybe other languages) in that I can use it to find differences between two sets of code. If not here, where? comp.lang.??? ? Hmm, I guess no one here uses it. I did find a winmerge mailing list, so will work it out there. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
WinMerge--B/W Shading of Printed Copy to Show Differences?
Is there a way to highlight differences between the two files when printing in b/w? Help suggests there may be some texturing, but all I see is color choices. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: WinMerge--B/W Shading of Printed Copy to Show Differences?
Jason Scheirer wrote: On Dec 16, 3:56 pm, W. eWatson notval...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Is there a way to highlight differences between the two files when printing in b/w? Help suggests there may be some texturing, but all I see is color choices. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ WinMerge is written in C++ and not even remotely related to Python. Well, yes, but it has applicability to Python (and maybe other languages) in that I can use it to find differences between two sets of code. If not here, where? comp.lang.??? ? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python and Its Libraries--Who's on First?
Chris Rebert wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:25 PM, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some repository that says something like for Python 2.5 it works with: Win OSes: W2K, XP, Vista For the supported OSes, check the links for the versions on http://python.org/download/ and see whether downloads are offered for that OS (version). numpy vers y, matplotlib vers x. scipy z, etc. For arbitrary third-party packages, check their websites to see which versions are compatible with which versions of Python. No one makes some centralized compatibility matrix for the cartesian product of python, OS, and third-party library versions. Probably because, as you can imagine, it would be enormously tedious. Also, I doubt it would even be all that useful to most developers as they simply go with whatever version of Python their package's specific third-party libraries require, with OS compatibility being a non-issue. Cheers, Chris Thanks. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python and Its Libraries--Who's on First?
Ben Finney wrote: W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there some repository that says something like for Python 2.5 it works with: Win OSes: W2K, XP, Vista numpy vers y, matplotlib vers x. scipy z, etc. I don't understand the question. Do you have some question about the operating system requirements of Python? Those are documented on the Python website's About page URL:http://www.python.org/about/. Do you have some question about the additional requirements of some third-party Python work? It's best to query the resources for that specific work, e.g. its specific project website. If you were asking about something else, it might be best to phrase it more carefully and explicitly. See the post by Chris R. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Win 98 with Python 2.5--matplotlib and Numpy problem
Tino Wildenhain wrote: W. eWatson wrote: I'm trying to figure out why an application that both myself and a colleague use gives errors when he uses it under W98. I'm using XP. Py 2.5 is installed on each of our machines. His first problem came with ... Clearly things have gone astray. Is numpy somehow not compatible with PY 2.5? numpy when compiled against python2.5 is perfectly compatible with python2.5. However this does not tell you anything if you run an application compiled on recent windows on a very old one. I guess this could be worked out but I don't know if the user base with win98 is large enough to justify this. If you feel desperate, you could always get the compiler and try your luck. Otoh you collegue could just abhore the windows and use something different on his hardware :-) With fvwm98 it would even look like :-) HTH Tino Yes, taking win98 out of the picture would help. That'll likely be my next step in trying to solve his problem. I'm just trying to clear the air that it isn't the OS. Unfortunately, when this free' app became available 2-3 years ago, they made the claim, simplicity or explicitly, that it would run on any Win OS. They really don't have the resources to keep looking back to some ancient win OSes. The users became driven by buying old PCs for this, and now I think this colleague is stuck with a problem. Not only is the OS possibly a culprit, but buying a new OS will likely cost him bucks, and others. It probably gets worse for some who use this appl regularly. They can't update to new features as they come along. It's quite probably a new feature (and Win 98) are the problem. It's the first time they've tried to use matplotlib. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python and Its Libraries--Who's on First?
George Sakkis wrote: On Nov 17, 12:25 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some repository that says something like for Python 2.5 it works with: Win OSes: W2K, XP, Vista numpy vers y, matplotlib vers x. scipy z, etc. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#writewell If I might state that what I like about posts like yours, is that invariably they are followed by someone who actually understand the question. Such is the case again here. See the Chris R. post. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python and Its Libraries--Who's on First?
Let me add one more observation about your remarks. Yesterday I had to rent a roto-tiller to put in a new section of lawn. As I was about to get started my neighbor dropped over and we began to chat about what I was doing. Finally, I said, I think it's time for me start the tiller up. He said, Oh, let me help. I've been working on some of these gas powered machines on my property for some time. He then reached down and started manipulating the choke, fuel and so on. 15 minutes later he still hadn't gotten it started. I politely said, let me call the store and see if they can give me instructions. He agreed, saying, Yeah, probably there's something wrong elsewhere. When I came back 10 minutes later with the settings they had made, it started immediately. Here's my point. Sometimes misguided remarks only delay the solution. Sometimes they can almost stop it completely. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python and Its Libraries--Who's on First?
Aahz wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Sakkis wrote: On Nov 17, 12:25 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some repository that says something like for Python 2.5 it works with: Win OSes: W2K, XP, Vista numpy vers y, matplotlib vers x. scipy z, etc. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#writewell If I might state that what I like about posts like yours, is that invariably they are followed by someone who actually understand the question. Such is the case again here. See the Chris R. post. The fact that someone happened to understand your question does not remove the onus upon you to write clearly. You may not be so lucky next time. Look up the word dialectic. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Win98, Python 2.5 and plotmatlib
W. eWatson wrote: Has anyone gotten the combination of items in the Subject to work together? The pylab line here fails: from Tkinter import * from numpy import * import Image import ImageChops import ImageTk import time import binascii import tkMessageBox import tkSimpleDialog from pylab import plot, xlabel, ylabel, title, show, xticks, bar It works fine in XP Pro, Py 2.5 OK, I guess no one has used pylab and Py 2.5 together, so how about just Py 2.5 on a Win 98 machine? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Win 98 --Is 2.4.x The last version of Python for It?
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Win 98 with Python 2.5--matplotlib and Numpy problem
I'm trying to figure out why an application that both myself and a colleague use gives errors when he uses it under W98. I'm using XP. Py 2.5 is installed on each of our machines. His first problem came with matplotlib that pointed to the from pylab ... line below. The message ended with ... from matplotlib.path: import affine_transform. Import Error. One of the library functions needed to run this application could not be found. I told him to remark the line from pylab import plot, xlabel, ylabel, title, show, xticks, bar My thinking was that he need not use any of the new plot facilities in the app. That seemed to do the trick, but then he encountered a msg that said: Assertion failed in PROGRAN 2008/NUMPY-1.20-Win32K Superpack ... Press Retry to Debug the application. JT must be enabled. Clearly things have gone astray. Is numpy somehow not compatible with PY 2.5? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python and Its Libraries--Who's on First?
Is there some repository that says something like for Python 2.5 it works with: Win OSes: W2K, XP, Vista numpy vers y, matplotlib vers x. scipy z, etc. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Win98, Python 2.5 and plotmatlib
Has anyone gotten the combination of items in the Subject to work together? The pylab line here fails: from Tkinter import * from numpy import * import Image import ImageChops import ImageTk import time import binascii import tkMessageBox import tkSimpleDialog from pylab import plot, xlabel, ylabel, title, show, xticks, bar It works fine in XP Pro, Py 2.5 -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Convertimg a Sequence of Images to an AVI File
I have a file of images shot at a frame rate of 1/30th of a second. They are 640 by 480 bytes followed immediately by up to 200 smaller images 128x128 pixels. The software I'm using will convert this into a mov file. I'd like to simply take the large images out of the file and make an avi file from them. What in Python will help me do that? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Convertimg a Sequence of Images to an AVI File
W. eWatson wrote: I have a file of images shot at a frame rate of 1/30th of a second. They are 640 by 480 bytes followed immediately by up to 200 smaller images 128x128 pixels. The software I'm using will convert this into a mov file. I'd like to simply take the large images out of the file and make an avi file from them. What in Python will help me do that? It looks like the ticket is http://pymedia.org/index.html -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Anyone Have (XP) 2.4.4 Installed and Can Check This Simple matplotlib Program?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 15, 6:38 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to try another stab at this problem again. I'd like someone with 2.4.4 and matplotlib-0.98.3.win32-py2.4exe to try it (below). IMHO an important detail of your configuration is missing. What's your numerical library? Did you install a Win32 distribution including a numerical library (which?), or which package do you have installed separately? In general I've used matplotlib with every Python version between 2.2 and 2.5 (inclusive) on Win32 without problem, but the separate installation was sometimes a problem. Regards, Peter I'm pretty new to Python, so how do I find the versions? I see IDLE provides a path browser. Can it tell me? I see various items in a tree: scipy PIL, Numeric_headers:package, LibearAlgebra.py, numpy etc. Under numeric_version.py, it shows 2.4. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Installing Python 2.4 over 2.4?
Terry Reedy wrote: Steve Holden wrote: W. eWatson wrote: I suspect something has been corrupted in Python 2.4. Can I just re-install on top of it, and still expect to have scipy and other pkgs I've installed? On Windows, certainly - you can even uninstall and reinstall and retain your installed libraries. On Linux I am pretty sure the same is true, but caveat emptor. In Windows, at least, micro version upgrades are handled exactly this way. When 2.5.3 comes out, for instance, the installer will replace python files as needed in the current directories but leave Python25/Lib/Site-Packages and any user-added directories alone. That's good news. I was worried about libraries I had set up. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Installing Python 2.4 over 2.4?
Martin v. Löwis wrote: W. eWatson wrote: I suspect something has been corrupted in Python 2.4. Can I just re-install on top of it On Windows, you shouldn't reinstall, but instead run the repair installation, from Add and remove programs. Regards, Martin Do you mean on the Win Control Panel? This is, Remove and Add? Where do I get a repair installation? I want to stick with the same version I have. I use Python for a program whose last update was for the version I have. It's since been bumped up to 2.5, but I'm not ready for it yet. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python IDLE and Access Denied
W. eWatson wrote: Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:07:06 -0700, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: I had just finished working with IDLE, and tried to double-click on a py file. It produced an OK dialog with the path to the file and the msg access denied. All my py files act that way. I rebooted and the same thing continues. I copied one py program to another computer, and accessed it there. Python 2.4. Suggestions? Off-hand, I'd suspect some of your mistakes in trying to get a console to run Python programs has left the association between .py and the Python interpreter in a mess. Go back to the console and enter ftype python.file exactly -- nothing else, and see what it displays. If it looks anything other than (change the E: to whatever your installation uses) C:\Documents and Settings\Dennis Lee Bieberftype python.file python.file=E:\Python24\python.exe %1 %* then you'll need to change it... (again ensure the path is correct) ftype python.file=E:\Python24\python.exe %1 %* The other place to explore would be from a directory window: Tools/Folder Options/File Types Find PY, click [advanced], select open, click [edit] In the Application used... box, you should see (again, adjust for your path) E:\Python24\python.exe %1 %* [x] use DDE Application: Python Topic: System (Hmmm, I don't recall if DDE is really applicable, but that's what mine shows). Thanks, again, but this one mysteriously disappeared. I managed to open my py file into IDLE and saved it to see if that would work. It did and all is well. Well, the story isn't quite over. I discovered the message appears only outside of Idle. However, within Idle it can read and save the file. My guess is that it's more likely the matplotlib install went haywire, or a week before this a disk failure caused the problem. By pure luck, I managed to restore the drive. In any case, I can still proceed. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Installing Python 2.4 over 2.4?
I suspect something has been corrupted in Python 2.4. Can I just re-install on top of it, and still expect to have scipy and other pkgs I've installed? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Installing Python 2.4 over 2.4?
Martin v. Löwis wrote: On Windows, you shouldn't reinstall, but instead run the repair installation, from Add and remove programs. Do you mean on the Win Control Panel? Yes. This is, Remove and Add? This question I do not understand. *What* is Remove and Add? I'm talking about the Add or [not and] Remove Programs control panel item (ARP). You should not remove, then add, Python, but instead, repair it. Where do I get a repair installation? Launch ARP. Seek Python (wait while this list is being populated). Select Change, then Repair Python 2.4.4. Regards, Martin Ah, I see there about 5 Python parts in the ARP, and one is Python 2.4.4. There's a Change/Remove, and clicking on Change brings up a Python window to change, remove or repair. What is change? A new version? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pylab Fails with Runtime Error on Win XP Under Python 2.4
Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:45:15 -0300, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: The meat of the matter is the Fatal error msg I copied below. To me it indicates a serious error. Maybe some developer can sort it out. From above post. ++ Ah, a tiny break through. I got C:\Python24\python myprogram.py aprog.py. I copied the program to this folder. I don't seem to be able to copy the window, so I see pretty much what I had before from a dialog that popped up, except it adds: Fatal Python error: Pystring_InterInPlace: strings only please! -Meat! The rest is about the run time error [, and of zippo help]. This (Pystring) seems quite relevant, but I have no idea what. +++ Python 2.4 is almost four years old now, and unmaintained. Chances are the bug is already fixed. With 2.6 already released (and 3.0 soon to be) I think it's highly improbable any developer will show interest in this - in any case, almost noone will notice unless you file a bug at bugs.python.org Thanks. You're probably right. I'm sort of stuck with this (2.4.4). The supplier of the s/w I am working on distributed it under 2.4. There are a number of people who are using the program, and aren't python savvy. The supplier has moved to 2.5. I'm trying to provide a program that will run for them, and probably 2.5. I find it odd though that this simple program on the matplotlab never got checked by someone. I suppose it's possible. I'm giving this one more try (a new post shortly). If not, I'm dragging everyone up to 2.5. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Anyone Have (XP) 2.4.4 Installed and Can Check This Simple matplotlib Program?
I'm going to try another stab at this problem again. I'd like someone with
2.4.4 and matplotlib-0.98.3.win32-py2.4exe to try it (below). It produces a
runtime error, and python (IDLE) dies. If I use from the console import
matplotlib or variations (pythonw), it fails.
I think is the final shot on this. If it won't work, I'm off to 2.5, and
will drag some others with me who use the common program I'm trying to add a
feature to.
Here's the code I pulled from the matplotlib site. I added finish() to it.
from pylab import *
def finish():
print; print Bye
print
raw_input('Press Enter to Quit')
sys.exit()
t = arange(0.0, 2.0, 0.01)
s = sin(2*pi*t)
plot(t, s, linewidth=1.0)
xlabel('time (s)')
ylabel('voltage (mV)')
title('About as simple as it gets, folks')
grid(True)
show()
finish()
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Python IDLE and Access Denied
I had just finished working with IDLE, and tried to double-click on a py file. It produced an OK dialog with the path to the file and the msg access denied. All my py files act that way. I rebooted and the same thing continues. I copied one py program to another computer, and accessed it there. Python 2.4. Suggestions? -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python IDLE and Access Denied
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:07:06 -0700, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: I had just finished working with IDLE, and tried to double-click on a py file. It produced an OK dialog with the path to the file and the msg access denied. All my py files act that way. I rebooted and the same thing continues. I copied one py program to another computer, and accessed it there. Python 2.4. Suggestions? Off-hand, I'd suspect some of your mistakes in trying to get a console to run Python programs has left the association between .py and the Python interpreter in a mess. Go back to the console and enter ftype python.file exactly -- nothing else, and see what it displays. If it looks anything other than (change the E: to whatever your installation uses) C:\Documents and Settings\Dennis Lee Bieberftype python.file python.file=E:\Python24\python.exe %1 %* then you'll need to change it... (again ensure the path is correct) ftype python.file=E:\Python24\python.exe %1 %* The other place to explore would be from a directory window: Tools/Folder Options/File Types Find PY, click [advanced], select open, click [edit] In the Application used... box, you should see (again, adjust for your path) E:\Python24\python.exe %1 %* [x] use DDE Application: Python Topic: System (Hmmm, I don't recall if DDE is really applicable, but that's what mine shows). Thanks, again, but this one mysteriously disappeared. I managed to open my py file into IDLE and saved it to see if that would work. It did and all is well. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Pylab Fails with Runtime Error on Win XP Under Python 2.4
I copied the following code from a matplotlib tutorial, and it fails. I'm
using python 2.4 on Win XP. It's matplotlib-0.98.3.win32-py2.4exe. It fails
in IDLE with a small window showing a runtime error. Clicking the OK on it
kills IDLE and the shell. If I double-click on the py file, the console
briefly appears too quickly to notice any contents. I have read raw to stop
it. If I execute it from a console window, I'm told the results will be
available there. I've long forgotten how to get a console window up in Win
XP. I can strip it all the code way down to the from, and it will fail the
same way. Bad matplotlib install? Python error?
Here's the code. I added finish() to it.
from pylab import *
def finish():
print; print Bye
print
raw_input('Press Enter to Quit')
sys.exit()
t = arange(0.0, 2.0, 0.01)
s = sin(2*pi*t)
plot(t, s, linewidth=1.0)
xlabel('time (s)')
ylabel('voltage (mV)')
title('About as simple as it gets, folks')
grid(True)
show()
finish()
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Re: Pylab Fails with Runtime Error on Win XP Under Python 2.4
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:24:32 -0700, W. eWatson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
available there. I've long forgotten how to get a console window up in Win
XP. I can strip it all the code way down to the from, and it will fail the
same way. Bad matplotlib install? Python error?
Well, in my case, I always put a copy of the XP Command Prompt
shortcut on the start menu, customized for my tastes (font
size/rows/columns). Lacking that, you should find it under:
start/programs/accessories/command prompt. You could also do start/run
and type cmd.
As for IDLE (which I don't use) -- possibly some conflict between
its graphics system and that of matplotlib...
Here's the code. I added finish() to it.
Runs okay on my system when started from PythonWin, but I'm likely
behind current
PythonWin 2.4.3 (#69, Apr 11 2006, 15:32:42) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)]
on win32.
ActivePython 2.4.3 Build 12 (ActiveState Software Inc.) based on
Python 2.4.3 (#69, Apr 11 2006, 15:32:42) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on
win32
*** Installation started 2007/03/15 21:31 ***
Source: C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents\matplotlib-0.90.0.win32-py2.4.exe
Let me archive my site-packages directory, and then locate a newer
matplotlib (hmmm, might need to get a newer numpy too){This is getting
nasty -- my numpy had been an egg, and the new installer is an .exe}
Okay -- matplotlib-0.98.3 and numpy-1.2.0 superpack installed...
Trying your code in a fresh PythonWin
Nope... That runs too (this time the left/right navigation arrows
displayed, but the pop-up help over the buttons wasn't).
And -- I just noticed, it IS using tk for plotting, and IDLE is also
tk; good place for conflicting event loops.
Thanks.
Oddly when I use cmd, it gets me to settings and docs. If I try c:\whatever
I get a msg, and it remains in the same folder.
I guess PythonWin is a download for another IDE than IDLE. Will modules be
available like mathplotlib if I install it, or do I have to establish them
for it? I'll look PythonWin once I get past the cmd operation.
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Re: Pylab Fails with Runtime Error on Win XP Under Python 2.4
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:56:26 -0700, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: Oddly when I use cmd, it gets me to settings and docs. If I try c:\whatever I get a msg, and it remains in the same folder. That's likely the defined home directory on your machine. Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Dennis Lee Biebercd c:\bin C:\bine: E:\cd UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Python Progs E:\UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Python Progsdir Volume in drive E is Data Volume Serial Number is 2626-D991 Directory of E:\UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Python Progs 08/23/2008 01:26 PMDIR . 08/23/2008 01:26 PMDIR .. 08/23/2008 01:26 PM 1,089 azel_interp.py 04/22/2007 04:43 PM 1,622 binadd.py 04/22/2007 06:03 PM 1,485 binadd2.py 12/11/2006 10:21 PM 119,889 BookList.zip snipped 06/13/2008 08:46 PM 1,929 timing.py 11/03/2007 10:31 PM56 trips.dat 03/31/2006 11:31 PM10 update_log 11/30/2005 10:11 AM 104 ut_00.py 112 File(s)397,123,218 bytes 2 Dir(s) 270,550,671,360 bytes free E:\UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Python Progs NOTE: to change directory you need to enter the command: cd new-directory Without the cd your entry is being treated as the path to an executable program -- and directories, of course, are not executable. To change to a different partition/drive, you do enter just the drive letter and a colon. And you need to do that separately -- each drive maintains a current directory E:\UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Python Progscd c:\bin E:\UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Python Progsdir Volume in drive E is Data Volume Serial Number is 2626-D991 Directory of E:\UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Python Progs snipped E:\UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Python Progsc: C:\bin Notice how changing drive to C: put me into the bin directory specified earlier. If I now enter e:, I'll be back to the Python Progs directory. I guess PythonWin is a download for another IDE than IDLE. Will modules be available like mathplotlib if I install it, or do I have to establish them for it? I'll look PythonWin once I get past the cmd operation. It comes supplied with the ActiveState Python download (which also includes the win32 extensions). I believe it can also be obtained as a stand-alone with the win32 stuff. The win32 extensions are: http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=78018 (just checked, PythonWin is included) I worked my way into the folder where the py program is, but couldn't executed. Just entering aprog.py, run aprog.py or exec aprog.py didn't work. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pylab Fails with Runtime Error on Win XP Under Python 2.4
John Machin wrote: On Oct 13, 9:07 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worked my way into the folder where the py program is, but couldn't executed. Just entering aprog.py, run aprog.py or exec aprog.py didn't work. One wouldn't expect the run or the exec to work. Try these in this order: python aprog.py \python24\python aprog.py c:\python24\python aprog.py and instead of didn't work, tell us what message you get. Also consider telling us where your Python 2.4 is installed, and what you see when you execute the PATH command. The first one requires a compile program. The second required a path, probably back to my c-drive The third one is too ghastly to think about, unless I move aprog.py to the python folder. I think I'll compile it and try. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pylab Fails with Runtime Error on Win XP Under Python 2.4
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:07:57 -0700, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: I worked my way into the folder where the py program is, but couldn't executed. Just entering aprog.py, run aprog.py or exec aprog.py didn't work. Try: python aprog.py If that doesn't work, you'll need to check your environment variable PATH to make sure the directory with the python interpreter is on it... (I've added spaces and/or newlines after the ; to make for easier reading) Path=E:\Python24\; E:\GNAT\2008\bin; C:\WINDOWS\system32; C:\WINDOWS; C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem; C:\Program Files\SciTE; C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin; C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_03\bin; C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\AGL; C:\Tcl\bin; C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\DLLShared\; C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\; C:\PROGRA~1\MySQL\MySQL Server 5.0\bin; C:\Program Files\TortoiseSVN\bin; E:\GNAT\GtkAda\bin; C:\MSSQL7\BINN; c:\PROGRA~1\sdb\programs\bin; c:\PROGRA~1\sdb\programs\pgm; c:\Regina; e:\Python24\Scripts It IS possible to set an association so that *.py will invoke python as the processor. Part of is the environment variable pathext... PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.pyw;.py;.pyo;.pyc;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.tcl But I think something else was required... Ah FTYPE Python.File=E:\Python24\python.exe %1 %* I entered at the H:\..\python_dev\ prompt FTYPE Python.File=C:\Python24\python.exe aprog.py but nothing happened. Nothing at all in the console window other than it still shows the folder path in the prompt. Well not quite. It just responded with python.exe aprog.py. Is there some way to copy in and out of the console. A copy/paste seems to get nowhere. It's odd that I cannot widen the console window. It shows --- when I grab a side. Maybe I'll compile the code, as suggested by a poster above. I don't think IDLE will do that, but I can probably find something that will. Ah, I found py2exe and installed it. It shows up nowhere in my Start-All Programs. It may be in the list under Python. I see a command line entry off that men. I don't think it was there. Off for more exploring. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pylab Fails with Runtime Error on Win XP Under Python 2.4
Ah, a tiny break through. I got C:\Python24\python myprogram.py aprog.py. I copied the program to this folder. I don't seem to be able to copy the window, so I see pretty much what I had before from a dialog that popped up, except it adds: Fatal Pyton error: Pystring_InterInPlace: strings only please! The rest is about the run time error. This (Pystring) seems quite relevant, but I have no idea what. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Pylab Fails with Runtime Error on Win XP Under Python 2.4
Thanks for the help, but I'm bowing out of this graphics problem. This should have been a snap, but has turned into a detour. I'll get back to the python program I was considering for it, and just work without the scatter plot. It's easily done. It would just look prettier in a plot. The meat of the matter is the Fatal error msg I copied below. To me it indicates a serious error. Maybe some developer can sort it out. From above post. ++ Ah, a tiny break through. I got C:\Python24\python myprogram.py aprog.py. I copied the program to this folder. I don't seem to be able to copy the window, so I see pretty much what I had before from a dialog that popped up, except it adds: Fatal Python error: Pystring_InterInPlace: strings only please! -Meat! The rest is about the run time error [, and of zippo help]. This (Pystring) seems quite relevant, but I have no idea what. +++ -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Correcting for Drift between Two Dates
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:53:18 -0700, W. eWatson wrote: I have two dates, ts1, ts2 as below in the sample program. I know the clock drift in seconds per day. I would like to calculate the actual date of ts2. See my question at the end of the program. When faced with a complicated task, break it down into simpler subtasks. Functions are your friends. Here you go: from __future__ import division from datetime import datetime as DT from datetime import timedelta SITE_DRIFT = 4.23 # drift in seconds per day # negative drift means the clock falls slow SEC_PER_DAY = 60*60*24 # number of seconds per day def calc_drift(when, base, drift=SITE_DRIFT): Return the amount of drift at date when since date base. x = when - base days = x.days + x.seconds/SEC_PER_DAY return drift*days def fix_date(when, base, drift=SITE_DRIFT): Return date when adjusted to the correct time. d = calc_drift(when, base, drift) delta = timedelta(seconds=-d) return when + delta And here it is in action: fix_date(DT(2008,9,9), DT(2008,9,8)) datetime.datetime(2008, 9, 8, 23, 59, 55, 77) I leave it to you to convert date/time strings into datetime objects. Ah, ha. x.days and x.seconds. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Syntax Problem with strptime in Python 2.4
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
Apparently, use of strptime of datetime needs a workaround in Python 2.4
to work properly. The workaround is d =
datetime.datetime(*(time.strptime(date_string, format)[0:5])). However,
when I try to use it, or even use it the regular way, it fails with
AttributeError: type object 'datetime.datetime' has no attribute
'datetime'.
From the following code code segment:
format = '%Y%m%d_%H%M%S'
#d=datetime.strptime('20080321_113405', format)-- typical use
print time.strptime('20080321_113405', format)[0:5]
d = datetime.datetime(*time.strptime('20080321_113405', format)[0:5])
Does anyone know how to make this work in 2.4? If not, is there a way to
achieve the same result?
This is not what you think it is. All your problem is that you do
from datetime import datetime
which imports the datetime-class, but then try to access
datetime.datetime
as if you had done
import datetime.
This actually is a wart in the datetime-module - it would be better if the
classes in there would follow PEP-8.
Diez
That's it. Thanks.
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Correcting for Drift between Two Dates
I have two dates, ts1, ts2 as below in the sample program. I know the clock drift in seconds per day. I would like to calculate the actual date of ts2. See my question at the end of the program. # time differences with addition of drift from datetime import datetime, timedelta import time drift = 4.23 # seconds per day format = '%Y%m%d_%H%M%S' ts1 = 20080901_12 # base date-time ts2 = 20080904_18 d1 = datetime(*(time.strptime(ts1, format)[0:6])) d2 = datetime(*(time.strptime(ts2, format)[0:6])) #d += timedelta(seconds=sec) delta = d2-d1 # delta format is nnn[n] days, hh:mm:ss # delta is type 'datetime.timedelta' print delta # get back to ts2 as a check d3 = d1+d print d3 #OK, now I need to add the total drift time between # d1 and d2, to get the true date-time of d2. # How do I get at the nnn and hh:mm:ss of delta so that # I can change nnn to nnn+(fraction of day in hh:mm:ss) to # days + fraction of day, D. I want to multiple D by drift # to get seconds of drift in period, then add it to d2. Results 3 days, 6:00:00 2016-09-04 18:00:00 -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Syntax Problem with strptime in Python 2.4
Apparently, use of strptime of datetime needs a workaround in Python 2.4 to
work properly. The workaround is d =
datetime.datetime(*(time.strptime(date_string, format)[0:5])). However, when
I try to use it, or even use it the regular way, it fails with
AttributeError: type object 'datetime.datetime' has no attribute 'datetime'.
From the following code code segment:
format = '%Y%m%d_%H%M%S'
#d=datetime.strptime('20080321_113405', format)-- typical use
print time.strptime('20080321_113405', format)[0:5]
d = datetime.datetime(*time.strptime('20080321_113405', format)[0:5])
Does anyone know how to make this work in 2.4? If not, is there a way to
achieve the same result?
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Re: How Compute # of Days between Two Dates?
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-09-01, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the question in Subject. For example, the difference between 08/29/2008 and 09/03/2008 is +5. The difference between 02/28/2008 and 03/03/2008 is 4, leap year--extra day in Feb. I'm really only interested in years between, say, 1990 and 2050. In other words not some really strange period of time well outside our current era of history. Does the standard library's datetime module not do what you want? http://docs.python.org/lib/module-datetime.html Yes, it would seem so. This works fine. date1 = datetime.date(2007, 2, 27) date2 = datetime.date(2007, 3, 3) print date1: , date1 print date2: , date2 diff = date2 - date1 print diff: , diff result: date1: 2007-02-27 date2: 2007-03-03 diff: 4 days, 0:00:00 I was pondering this in pyfdate, but perhaps missed it or it was not obvious to me in the tutorial for some reason. There are few places where it's not quite complete. pyfdate has some rules for dealing with length of month oddities that started me thinking it would have difficulty with situations like the above. However, it would seem any general implementation of time and date should be capable of making similar calculations without difficulty. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How Compute # of Days between Two Dates?
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-09-01, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-09-01, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the question in Subject. For example, the difference between 08/29/2008 and 09/03/2008 is +5. The difference between 02/28/2008 and 03/03/2008 is 4, leap year--extra day in Feb. I'm really only interested in years between, say, 1990 and 2050. In other words not some really strange period of time well outside our current era of history. Does the standard library's datetime module not do what you want? http://docs.python.org/lib/module-datetime.html Yes, it would seem so. This works fine. It would probably be worth your while to read through one of introductory Python books or just browse through the Python tutorial: http://docs.python.org/tut/ Oddly, Leaning Python has no mention of datetime (not date or time), at least, that I could find. I'm considering the Nutshell book, 2nd ed., as a better reference (and cross reference) to various topics. I was pondering this in pyfdate, but perhaps missed it or it was not obvious to me in the tutorial for some reason. Sorry, can't help you there -- I've never heard of pyfdate. The timedate module that comes with Python has always done what I needed to do with dates/times. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
How Compute # of Days between Two Dates?
That's the question in Subject. For example, the difference between 08/29/2008 and 09/03/2008 is +5. The difference between 02/28/2008 and 03/03/2008 is 4, leap year--extra day in Feb. I'm really only interested in years between, say, 1990 and 2050. In other words not some really strange period of time well outside our current era of history. -- W. eWatson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
John Machin wrote: On Aug 30, 10:41 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm trying to do is adjust date-time stamped file names for date and time errors. The software program collects through a period that roughly coincides with night hours every day and according to the OS clock. It sometimes happens that a user sets the clock to the wrong day or hour, possibly both. Possibly even the month or year. I'm trying to allow a user the opportunity to repair the problem. (Date-time stamp part of the name is mmdd_hhmmss.) Correcting the date needs to be done easily and accurately. For example, if on August 25, he mistakenly sets the date to July 25, and discovers this problem on the real Oct. 5, he should be able to shift all dates from July 25 through Sept. 5 to Aug. 25 through early Oct., allowing for day oddities in a month during the period. (I hope I got those dates right; otherwise, I think you get the idea. In other words, he needs to shift about 40 days of data to the correct dates.) ... all of which is absolutely nothing to do with your surprise at the result of whatever.plus(months=6). Really? It opened new insights for me. The example above is not the only correction I need to deal with. Further, the author is likely to soon clarify some of the date rules in the tutorial that were not obvious or mentioned there. So for some period from recorded date X to recorded date Y, the recorded dates of out of kilter by D days. X = Jul 25 2008, Y Sep 5 2008, and D is 31 (days from Jul 25 to Aug 25). All you have to do is (pseudocode): if X = recorded_date = Y: new_recorded_date = recorded_date.plus(days=D) HTH, John -- W. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
W. eWatson wrote: John Machin wrote: On Aug 30, 10:41 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm trying to do is adjust date-time stamped file names for date and time errors. The software program collects through a period that roughly coincides with night hours every day and according to the OS clock. It sometimes happens that a user sets the clock to the wrong day or hour, possibly both. Possibly even the month or year. I'm trying to allow a user the opportunity to repair the problem. (Date-time stamp part of the name is mmdd_hhmmss.) Correcting the date needs to be done easily and accurately. For example, if on August 25, he mistakenly sets the date to July 25, and discovers this problem on the real Oct. 5, he should be able to shift all dates from July 25 through Sept. 5 to Aug. 25 through early Oct., allowing for day oddities in a month during the period. (I hope I got those dates right; otherwise, I think you get the idea. In other words, he needs to shift about 40 days of data to the correct dates.) ... all of which is absolutely nothing to do with your surprise at the result of whatever.plus(months=6). Really? It opened new insights for me. The example above is not the only correction I need to deal with. Further, the author is likely to soon clarify some of the date rules in the tutorial that were not obvious or mentioned there. So for some period from recorded date X to recorded date Y, the recorded dates of out of kilter by D days. X = Jul 25 2008, Y Sep 5 2008, and D is 31 (days from Jul 25 to Aug 25). All you have to do is (pseudocode): if X = recorded_date = Y: new_recorded_date = recorded_date.plus(days=D) HTH, John Strange how my post got hooked into this side spur. I'll re-post. -- W. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
John Machin wrote: On Aug 30, 10:41 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm trying to do is adjust date-time stamped file names for date and time errors. The software program collects through a period that roughly coincides with night hours every day and according to the OS clock. It sometimes happens that a user sets the clock to the wrong day or hour, possibly both. Possibly even the month or year. I'm trying to allow a user the opportunity to repair the problem. (Date-time stamp part of the name is mmdd_hhmmss.) Correcting the date needs to be done easily and accurately. For example, if on August 25, he mistakenly sets the date to July 25, and discovers this problem on the real Oct. 5, he should be able to shift all dates from July 25 through Sept. 5 to Aug. 25 through early Oct., allowing for day oddities in a month during the period. (I hope I got those dates right; otherwise, I think you get the idea. In other words, he needs to shift about 40 days of data to the correct dates.) ... all of which is absolutely nothing to do with your surprise at the result of whatever.plus(months=6). Really? It opened new insights for me. The example above is not the only correction I need to deal with. Further, the author is likely to soon clarify some of the date rules in the tutorial that were not obvious nor mentioned there. So for some period from recorded date X to recorded date Y, the recorded dates of out of kilter by D days. X = Jul 25 2008, Y Sep 5 2008, and D is 31 (days from Jul 25 to Aug 25). All you have to do is (pseudocode): if X = recorded_date = Y: new_recorded_date = recorded_date.plus(days=D) HTH, John -- W. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
The author has updated the Tutorial and added a flex method. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tough Guy Competition
alex23 wrote: On Aug 29, 3:45 pm, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something to do on your weekends. [non-related link clipped] Another thing to do with your weekends would be to -not spam-. Sorry, misdirected. -- W. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
I just tried the following code, and got an unexpected result. from pyfdate import * t = Time() ts = Time(2008, 8, 29,15,20,7) tnew = ts.plus(months=6) print new date: , tnew Result: new date: 2009-02-28 15:20:07 I believe that should be April 1, 2009. If I use months = 1 and day =31, I get Sept. 30, 2008 and not Oct. 1, 2008. Is there a way to get around this? -- W. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lining Up and PaddingTwo Similar Lists
castironpi wrote: ... I don't think that's guaranteed by anything. I realized that 'dat.sort()' and 'txt.sort()' weren't necessary, since their contents are moved to a dictionary, which isn't sorted. Actually, I'm getting the file names from listdir, and they appear to be sorted low to high. I tried it on a folder with lots of dissimilar files. both= set( datD.keys() ) set( txtD.keys() ) This will get you the keys (prefixes) that are in both. Then for every prefix if it's not in 'both', you can report it. Lastly, since you suggest you're guaranteed that 'txt' will all share the same extension, you can do away with the dictionary and use sets entirely. Only if you can depend on that assumption. Each dat file contains an image, and its description and related parameters are in the corresponding txt file. I took a look at this. It's probably more what you had in mind, and the dictionaries are overkill. ... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
John Machin wrote: On Aug 30, 2:32 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried the following code, and got an unexpected result. from pyfdate import * t = Time() ts = Time(2008, 8, 29,15,20,7) tnew = ts.plus(months=6) print new date: , tnew Result: new date: 2009-02-28 15:20:07 I believe that should be April 1, 2009. Presuming that we are talking about the Gregorian calendar, and not one of your own invention, you are (one trusts) alone in that belief. There are SEVEN whole months and a bit between August 29, 2008 and April 1, 2009. Count the months: Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar. If I use months = 1 and day =31, I get Sept. 30, 2008 and not Oct. 1, 2008. Is there a way to get around this? Because the number of days in a month is not constant, adding a number of months to a date is capable of more than one interpretation. Most folk are happy with adding the months on and then ensuring that the day is not later than the last day of the resultant (year, month) combination -- this is what the pyfdate routine appears to be doing. However there are some interesting ideas floating around e.g. IIRC an eminent personage once asserted in this newsgroup that adding 1 month to 31 Jan in a non-leap year should produce 3 Mar. There is also the general question with date intervals of whether the first day is included in the calculation or not. E.g. work on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday: that's 3 days service. Put money into the bank on Monday, withdraw it on Wednesday: that's likely to attract 2 days interest. One needs to understand exactly what calculation is required, and exactly what calculation is provided by the software that is proposed to be used. HTH, John What I'm trying to do is adjust date-time stamped file names for date and time errors. The software program collects through a period that roughly coincides with night hours every day and according to the OS clock. It sometimes happens that a user sets the clock to the wrong day or hour, possibly both. Possibly even the month or year. I'm trying to allow a user the opportunity to repair the problem. (Date-time stamp part of the name is mmdd_hhmmss.) Correcting the date needs to be done easily and accurately. For example, if on August 25, he mistakenly sets the date to July 25, and discovers this problem on the real Oct. 5, he should be able to shift all dates from July 25 through Sept. 5 to Aug. 25 through early Oct., allowing for day oddities in a month during the period. (I hope I got those dates right; otherwise, I think you get the idea. In other words, he needs to shift about 40 days of data to the correct dates.) Or: True calendar period: August 25 to Oct. 5 Recorded calendar period: July 25 to Sept. 5 (roughly 5) A second function is to correct the time stamp for drift in the clock. For this, I'm expecting the user knows the daily drift, +/-, in seconds of the clock. When he decides, for example, that he's let the clock drift for more than, say, 120 seconds, he may want to adjust the time stamp for all files collected since the last time he set the clock properly. About the best anyone can hope for is that the data is accurate to within 4 to 5 seconds, so over periods of say a month between adjustments this should be OK. The computers used do not have time data other than that provided by the h/w clock on the computer. This method is not meant to be a cure all, just to get the time stamp within a reasonable value. Personally, I reset the time about every 2-3 weeks. Problems that arise here are associated with working near midnight. Again, it's possible to set some time or date component incorrectly each time one needs to get drift under control. The OSes involved can be Win XP, Win 2000, or even older Win OSes, varieties of Apple and Linux. I don't want to go below the level of the simple h/w clock a typical user might have access to through the OS s/w user interface. However, I do not need to get into OS details to solve the above problems. There are of course times when a mistaken setting is caught early, so the adjustment becomes easy. Suppose the day is taken as May 3 on May 5, and two days later the mistake is noticed. Changing the date for these files is pretty easy (with the program). Well, back to the drawing board for awhile to see how this plays against pyfdate. -- W. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python in a Nutshell -- Book vs Web
I read an Amazon of Python in a Nutshell. The first edition is supposedly much like the web site. What web site? The second edition apparently adds more to the book than the web site. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Wild Card String Comparison
Cameron Laird wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to do a search for a wild card string in another string. For example, I'd like to find v*.dat in a string called bingo. v must be matched against only the first character in bingo, and not simply found somewhere in bingo, as might be the case for *v*.dat. . . . Does this session leave any questions: python Python 2.4.4c0 (#2, Oct 2 2006, 00:57:46) [GCC 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-15)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import re pattern = ^v.*\.dat compiled = re.compile(pattern) compiled.match(victory.dat) _sre.SRE_Match object at 0xb7da2c60 ms = compiled.match(victory.dat) ms.group() victory.dat compiled.match(avoid.dat) # Notice the return value of None. ... import sys sys.exit() ? Looks good. re = regular expressions. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Lining Up and PaddingTwo Similar Lists
Maybe there's some function like zip or map that does this. If not, it's probably fairly easy to do with push and pop. I'm just checking to see if there's not some known simple single function that does what I want. Here's what I'm trying to do. I have a list dat like (assume the items are strings even thought I'm omitting quotes.): [a.dat, c.dat, g.dat, k.dat, p.dat] I have another list called txt that looks like: [a.txt, b.txt, g.txt, k.txt r.txt, w.txt] What I need is to pair up items with the same prefix and use None, or some marker, to indicate the absence of the opposite item. That is, in non-list form, I want: a.dat a.txt None b.txt c.dat None g.dat g.txt k.dat k.txt p.dat None None r.txt None w.txt Ultimately, what I'm doing is to find the missing member of pairs. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lining Up and PaddingTwo Similar Lists
castironpi wrote:
On Aug 28, 10:50 pm, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe there's some function like zip or map that does this. If not, it's
probably fairly easy to do with push and pop. I'm just checking to see if
there's not some known simple single function that does what I want. Here's
what I'm trying to do.
I have a list dat like (assume the items are strings even thought I'm
omitting quotes.):
[a.dat, c.dat, g.dat, k.dat, p.dat]
I have another list called txt that looks like:
[a.txt, b.txt, g.txt, k.txt r.txt, w.txt]
What I need is to pair up items with the same prefix and use None, or some
marker, to indicate the absence of the opposite item. That is, in non-list
form, I want:
a.dat a.txt
None b.txt
c.dat None
g.dat g.txt
k.dat k.txt
p.dat None
None r.txt
None w.txt
Ultimately, what I'm doing is to find the missing member of pairs.
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Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet
Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/
This gets you your list. What do you mean by 'missing member of
(a.dat, a.txt) is a pair. (None, a.txt) has a.dat missing. I just need to
issue a msg to the user that one member of a file pair is missing. Both
files need to be present to make sense of the data.
pairs'? If you mean, 'set of elements that appear in both' or 'set
that appears in one but not both', you can short circuit it at line
14.
-warning, spoiler-
It looks like you went beyond the call of duty, but that's fine. It looks
like I have a few new features to learn about in Python. In particular,
dictionaries. Thanks.
Actually, the file names are probably in order as I pick them up in XP. I
would think if someone had sorted the folder, that as one reads the folder
they are in alpha order, low to high.
dat= ['a.dat', 'c.dat', 'g.dat', 'k.dat', 'p.dat']
dat.sort()
txt= ['a.txt', 'b.txt', 'g.txt', 'k.txt', 'r.txt', 'w.txt']
txt.sort()
import os.path
datD= {}
for d in dat:
r,_= os.path.splitext( d )
datD[ r ]= d
txtD= {}
for d in txt:
r,_= os.path.splitext( d )
txtD[ r ]= d
both= sorted( list( set( datD.keys() )| set( txtD.keys() ) ) )
print datD
print txtD
print both
for i, x in enumerate( both ):
both[ i ]= datD.get( x, None ), txtD.get( x, None )
print both
OUTPUT:
{'a': 'a.dat', 'p': 'p.dat', 'c': 'c.dat', 'k': 'k.dat', 'g': 'g.dat'}
{'a': 'a.txt', 'b': 'b.txt', 'g': 'g.txt', 'k': 'k.txt', 'r': 'r.txt',
'w': 'w.t
xt'}
['a', 'b', 'c', 'g', 'k', 'p', 'r', 'w']
[('a.dat', 'a.txt'), (None, 'b.txt'), ('c.dat', None), ('g.dat',
'g.txt'), ('k.d
at', 'k.txt'), ('p.dat', None), (None, 'r.txt'), (None, 'w.txt')]
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Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
John Machin wrote: On Aug 27, 11:24 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Machin wrote: On Aug 27, 10:21 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using IDLE for Python 2.4, and put pfydate distribution in C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate, as required by the ttp://www.ferg.org/pyfdate/download.html page. How to install pyfdate. Save pyfdate.py into your PythonNN/Lib/site-packages directory. I copied it into C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate If that means that you ended up with C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate\pyfdate.py then you have *not* followed the instructions Save pyfdate.py into your PythonNN/Lib/site-packages directory. You need to end up with C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pyfdate.py None of the folders in C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\ have py as a suffix (as seen either by the IDLE path browser or XP). My folder is exactly C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate in XP and it contains about 12 py files. There are exactly three folders under C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\ according to the IDLE path browser. This does not agree with XP, which has: Numeric pfydate scipy numpy PIL (1) pfydate != pyfdate typo (2) The instructions say to put pyfdate.py [that's *ONE* file, not 12 files] in the /site-packages folder, *not* a sub-folder Got it. Ah, I see upon closer inspection the other files are just international versions. Thanks. It works. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Wild Card String Comparison
Is it possible to do a search for a wild card string in another string. For example, I'd like to find v*.dat in a string called bingo. v must be matched against only the first character in bingo, and not simply found somewhere in bingo, as might be the case for *v*.dat. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Wild Card String Comparison
Timothy Grant wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:49 PM, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to do a search for a wild card string in another string. For example, I'd like to find v*.dat in a string called bingo. v must be matched against only the first character in bingo, and not simply found somewhere in bingo, as might be the case for *v*.dat. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Is this what you're looking for? What's this? - Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Jan 17 2008, 19:35:16) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. x = 'the quick brown fox' -- 'the' in x True 'qui' in x True 'jumped' in x False If that doesn't meet your needs you may want to look at the re module. But if you can avoid re's your likely better off. re module?? There are no wild cards in your examples. * is one wild card symbol? begin*end means find begin followed by any string of characters until it find the three letters end. begin here now but end it should find begin here now but end beginning of the end is the title of a book should find beginning of the end b egin but end this now should find nothing. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Wild Card String Comparison
Sean DiZazzo wrote: On Aug 27, 8:49 pm, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to do a search for a wild card string in another string. For example, I'd like to find v*.dat in a string called bingo. v must be matched against only the first character in bingo, and not simply found somewhere in bingo, as might be the case for *v*.dat. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ Check: http://docs.python.org/lib/string-methods.html http://docs.python.org/lib/module-re.html http://docs.python.org/lib/module-glob.html http://docs.python.org/lib/module-fnmatch.html ~Sean I'll take a look. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check out Pyfdate: http://www.ferg.org/pyfdate from pyfdate import * t = Time().add(hours=14) print It is now, t.wdt datestring1 = 2005/10/05 #year,month,day datestring2 = 2002/09/22 #year,month,day datestring3 = 2007/11/11 #year,month,day year,month,day = numsplit(datestring1) # split into integers t1 = Time(year,month,day) for datestring in (datestring2,datestring1,datestring3): year,month,day = numsplit(datestring) t2 = Time(year,month,day) if t1 t2: print t1.isodate, is later than , t2.isodate elif t1 == t2: print t1.isodate, is the same as , t2.isodate elif t1 t2: print t1.isodate, is earlier than, t2.isodate print t1 = Time(2000,2,28) print The date after, t1.d, is, t1.plus(day=1).d t1 = Time(2001,2,28) print The date after, t1.d, is, t1.plus(day=1).d t1 = Time(2004,2,28) print The date after, t1.d, is, t1.plus(day=1).d print datestring1 = 2005/10/05 20:10:08 datestring2 = 2005/10/05 20:10:06 datestring3 = 2005/10/05 20:10:09 t1 = Time(*numsplit(datestring1)) for datestring in (datestring2,datestring1,datestring3): t2 = Time(*numsplit(datestring)) if t1 t2: print t1.d, t1.civiltime2, is later than , t2.d, t2.civiltime2 elif t1 == t2: print t1.d, t1.civiltime2, is the same as , t2.d, t2.civiltime2 elif t1 t2: print t1.d, t1.civiltime2, is earlier than, t2.d, t2.civiltime2 I'm using IDLE for Python 2.4, and put pfydate distribution in C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate, as required by the ttp://www.ferg.org/pyfdate/download.html page. How to install pyfdate. Save pyfdate.py into your PythonNN/Lib/site-packages directory. I copied it into C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate Execution in IDLE produced: - Traceback (most recent call last): File C:\Sandia_Meteors\Improved_Sentinel\Sentinel_Playground\date_example.py, line 1, in ? from pyfdate import * ImportError: No module named pyfdate - Looking in the Path Browser, I don't see pyfdate. I see PIL package and scipy package. Comments? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
John Machin wrote: On Aug 27, 10:21 am, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using IDLE for Python 2.4, and put pfydate distribution in C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate, as required by the ttp://www.ferg.org/pyfdate/download.html page. How to install pyfdate. Save pyfdate.py into your PythonNN/Lib/site-packages directory. I copied it into C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate If that means that you ended up with C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate\pyfdate.py then you have *not* followed the instructions Save pyfdate.py into your PythonNN/Lib/site-packages directory. You need to end up with C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pyfdate.py None of the folders in C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\ have py as a suffix (as seen either by the IDLE path browser or XP). My folder is exactly C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate in XP and it contains about 12 py files. There are exactly three folders under C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\ according to the IDLE path browser. This does not agree with XP, which has: Numeric pfydate scipy numpy PIL If in doubt, get to a command prompt and type dir C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pfydate* and tell us what you see. Execution in IDLE produced: - Traceback (most recent call last): File C:\Sandia_Meteors\Improved_Sentinel\Sentinel_Playground\date_example.py, line 1, in ? from pyfdate import * ImportError: No module named pyfdate - Looking in the Path Browser, I don't see pyfdate. I see PIL package and scipy package. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check out Pyfdate: http://www.ferg.org/pyfdate from pyfdate import * t = Time().add(hours=14) print It is now, t.wdt datestring1 = 2005/10/05 #year,month,day datestring2 = 2002/09/22 #year,month,day datestring3 = 2007/11/11 #year,month,day year,month,day = numsplit(datestring1) # split into integers t1 = Time(year,month,day) for datestring in (datestring2,datestring1,datestring3): year,month,day = numsplit(datestring) t2 = Time(year,month,day) if t1 t2: print t1.isodate, is later than , t2.isodate elif t1 == t2: print t1.isodate, is the same as , t2.isodate elif t1 t2: print t1.isodate, is earlier than, t2.isodate print t1 = Time(2000,2,28) print The date after, t1.d, is, t1.plus(day=1).d t1 = Time(2001,2,28) print The date after, t1.d, is, t1.plus(day=1).d t1 = Time(2004,2,28) print The date after, t1.d, is, t1.plus(day=1).d print datestring1 = 2005/10/05 20:10:08 datestring2 = 2005/10/05 20:10:06 datestring3 = 2005/10/05 20:10:09 t1 = Time(*numsplit(datestring1)) for datestring in (datestring2,datestring1,datestring3): t2 = Time(*numsplit(datestring)) if t1 t2: print t1.d, t1.civiltime2, is later than , t2.d, t2.civiltime2 elif t1 == t2: print t1.d, t1.civiltime2, is the same as , t2.d, t2.civiltime2 elif t1 t2: print t1.d, t1.civiltime2, is earlier than, t2.d, t2.civiltime2 It looks good. Thanks. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filling in Degrees in a Circle (Astronomy)
David wrote: What modules do I need to use pylab? I've installed scipy and numpy. http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ I'm using Python 2.4. The install looks pretty complicated for Windows. It doesn't seem like matplotlib is a module. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Date Comparison and Manipulation Functions?
Are there some date and time comparison functions that would compare, say, Is 10/05/05 later than 09/22/02? (or 02/09/22 format, yy/mm/dd) Is 02/11/07 the same as 02/11/07? Is 14:05:18 after 22:02:51? (24 hour day is fine) How about the date after 02/28/04 is 02/29/04, or the date after 09/30/08 is 10/01/08? How about is 03/03/04 20:10:08 after 03/07/03 14:00:00? Probably the others above will suffice. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filling in Degrees in a Circle (Astronomy)
Maric Michaud wrote:
Le Saturday 23 August 2008 01:12:48 W. eWatson, vous avez écrit :
The other night I surveyed a site for astronomical use by measuring the
altitude (0-90 degrees above the horizon) and az (azimuth, 0 degrees north
clockwise around the site to 360 degrees, almost north again) of obstacles,
trees. My purpose was to feed this profile of obstacles (trees) to an
astronomy program that would then account for not sighting objects below
the trees.
When I got around to entering them into the program by a file, I found it
required the alt at 360 azimuth points in order from 0 to 360 (same as 0).
Instead I have about 25 points, and expected the program to be able to do
simple linear interpolation between those.
Is there some simple operational device in Python that would allow me to
create an array (vector) of 360 points from my data by interpolating
between azimuth points when necessary? All my data I rounded to the nearest
integer. Maybe there's an interpolation operator?
As an example, supposed I had made 3 observations: (0,0) (180,45) and
(360,0). I would want some thing like (note the slope of the line from 0 to
179 is 45/180 or 0.25):
alt: 0, 0.25, 0.50, 0.75, ... 44.75, 45.0
az : 0, 1,2,3, 180
Of course, I don't need the az.
Not sure I got it, but is that fulfill your specs ?
[20]: def interpolate(a, b) :
slope = float(b[1] - a[1]) / (b[0] - a[0])
return [ slope * float(i) for i in xrange(b[0]-a[0] + 1) ]
:
[23]: interpolate((0, 0), (180, 45))
...[23]:
[0.0,
0.25,
0.5,
0.75,
44.5,
44.75,
45.0]
[29]: interpolate((80, 20), (180, 45))
[0.0,
0.25,
0.5,
0.75,
1.0,
1.25,
...
24.5,
24.75,
25.0]
Yes, the interpolation part looks right, but the tricky part is to be able
to go through the list and find where one needs to generate all the missing
az angles. A chunk of my data is in a post above yours. Here's a more
revealing set of data where four data points are known:
az el
0 10
4 14 (slope is 1)
12 30 (slope is 2)
15 15 (slope is -5)
16 points need to be generated, 0 to 15, representing 15 degrees around the
circle.
So, I'm doing this in my head, one would get
0 10 (slope is 1)
1 11
2 12
3 13
4 14
5 16 (slope is 2)
6 18
7 18
...
12 30
13 25
14 20
15 15
I use Python occasionally, and starting up requires some effort, but I've
finally decided to take a go at this.
I'm working on this now, but my knowledge of python needs refreshing. Right
now I have a file of all the az,el data I've collected, and I'd like to open
it with Python for XP. However, Python doesn't like this:
junkfile = open('c:\tmp\junkpythonfile','w')
I get
junkfile = open('c:\tmp\junkpythonfile','w')
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'c:\tmp\\junkpythonfile'
This problematic segment is just a hack of a similar statement which has the
same problem and a much longer path. I suspect the problem is with the back
slash.
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Re: Filling in Degrees in a Circle (Astronomy)
Carl Banks wrote: On Aug 22, 7:12 pm, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some simple operational device in Python that would allow me to create an array (vector) of 360 points from my data by interpolating between azimuth points when necessary? All my data I rounded to the nearest integer. Maybe there's an interpolation operator? There's nothing built in, but see the bisect module. It is a good way to determine which interval you are in, and you can interpolate the points yourself. Carl Banks I'll take a look. I just posted above yours with a more insightful set of data than the first three pointer. Yes, some way of bisecting, or chopping is the trick here. One is just trying to fill in all the gaps with interpolation and produce 360 points to feed to the telescope software. It's sort of like giving someone, and forgetting interpolation here, the sequence 20, 30, blank, 60, 70, 80 and asking for the two missing tens between 30 and 60. 40 and 50, of course. The fellow above wrote an interpolate function that will probably fit the bill. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filling in Degrees in a Circle (Astronomy)
Scott David Daniels wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
...
I'm working on this now, but my knowledge of python needs refreshing.
Right now I have a file of all the az,el data I've collected, and I'd
like to open it with Python for XP. However, Python doesn't like this:
junkfile = open('c:\tmp\junkpythonfile','w')
I get
junkfile = open('c:\tmp\junkpythonfile','w')
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'c:\tmp\\junkpythonfile'
This problematic segment is just a hack of a similar statement which
has the same problem and a much longer path. I suspect the problem is
with the back slash.
A standard windows error. note that '\t' is a tab, and I doubt you have
a directory named tab m p. Get in the habit of _always_ using:
junkfile = open(r'c:\tmp\junkpythonfile','w')
or
junkfile = open('c:\\tmp\\junkpythonfile','w')
for file names.
--Scott David Daniels
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks. r did the job nicely.
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Total No. of Records in a File?
I have an ordinary text file with a CR at the end of a line, and two numbers in each line. Is there some way to determine the number of lines (records) in the file before I begin reading it? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Total No. of Records in a File?
Nick Dumas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Err...you want to know what is in a file before you open it? This could be done if you keep some external database documenting changes made to the file. But unless I misunderstand what you're saying, then it's not possible to know the contents of a file without opening and reading that file. W. eWatson wrote: I have an ordinary text file with a CR at the end of a line, and two numbers in each line. Is there some way to determine the number of lines (records) in the file before I begin reading it? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiwSZ4ACgkQLMI5fndAv9hXugCeJs5XBkLLne6ljqQggB/MoAVs SNIAoJxsU04cwcZMrH9QjElAbMD34RdK =RlmP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Maybe. I could see it if the file were truly in a record format. The # of records might be kept by the OS. It's conceivable that Python or the OS might see a file with a CR as recordized. All unlikely though. Just checkin'. How about in a slightly different case. Suppose I want to know the number of files in a folder? The OS and maybe some Python method might know that. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Total No. of Records in a File?
Fredrik Lundh wrote: W. eWatson wrote: I have an ordinary text file with a CR at the end of a line, and two numbers in each line. Is there some way to determine the number of lines (records) in the file before I begin reading it? In the general case, no. A file is just a bunch of bytes. If you know that all lines have exactly the same length, you can of course fetch the file size and divide by the line size, but that doesn't work for arbitrary files. Why do you need to know the number of lines before reading it, btw? /F Actually, it was a matter of curiosity, and maybe absent mindedness. I was envisioning a program where I might want to run up and down a file a lot, sometimes deleting a record interactively at the request of the user. However, I wanted to keep him alert to the total number of records remaining. However, in retrospect, I more likely do this with files in a folder. I also want him to be able to skip around in the Win OS folder by saying something like go forward 3 files. I'd like not to have to read all the files between the two points. The whole idea needs some more thinking. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filling in Degrees in a Circle (Astronomy)
I completed a Win Python program and it has generated the necessary data, which I have in turn used successfully with the telescope software. Is there some way to turn this into an executable program for people who do not have Python? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filling in Degrees in a Circle (Astronomy)
tom wrote: W. eWatson wrote: The other night I surveyed a site for astronomical use by measuring the altitude (0-90 degrees above the horizon) and az (azimuth, 0 degrees north clockwise around the site to 360 degrees, almost north again) of obstacles, trees. My purpose was to feed this profile of obstacles (trees) to an astronomy program that would then account for not sighting objects below the trees. When I got around to entering them into the program by a file, I found it required the alt at 360 azimuth points in order from 0 to 360 (same as 0). Instead I have about 25 points, and expected the program to be able to do simple linear interpolation between those. Is there some simple operational device in Python that would allow me to create an array (vector) of 360 points from my data by interpolating between azimuth points when necessary? All my data I rounded to the nearest integer. Maybe there's an interpolation operator? As an example, supposed I had made 3 observations: (0,0) (180,45) and (360,0). I would want some thing like (note the slope of the line from 0 to 179 is 45/180 or 0.25): alt: 0, 0.25, 0.50, 0.75, ... 44.75, 45.0 az : 0, 1,2,3, 180 Of course, I don't need the az. If I understand you right, I think using interpolation as provided by scipy would do what you need. Here's an example: from scipy.interpolate.interpolate import interp1d angles = [0, 22, 47.5, 180, 247.01, 360] altitudes = [18, 18, 26, 3, 5, 18] desired_angles = range(0, 361) skyline = interp1d(angles, altitudes, kind=linear) vals = skyline(desired_angles) # that is, vals will be the interpolated altitudes at each of the # desired angles. if 1: # plot this out with matplotlib import pylab as mx mx.figure() mx.plot(angles, altitudes, 'x') mx.plot(desired_angles, vals) mx.show() I decided this morning and roll up my sleeves and write the program. I plan to take a deeper plunge in the next month than my so far erratic look over the last 18 or more months It's working. The above looks like it's on the right track. Is scipy some collection of astro programs? mx is a graphics character plot? I just hauled it into IDLE and tried executing it. from scipy.interpolate.interpolate import interp1d ImportError: No module named scipy.interpolate.interpolate Apparently, something is missing. I posted a recent msg a bit higher that will probably go unnoticed, so I'll repeat most of it. How do I get my py code into some executable form so that Win users who don't have python can execute it? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Filling in Degrees in a Circle (Astronomy)
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:18:17 -0700, W. eWatson [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: I'll take a look. I just posted above yours with a more insightful set of data than the first three pointer. Yes, some way of bisecting, or chopping is the trick here. One is just trying to fill in all the gaps with interpolation and produce 360 points to feed to the telescope software. It's sort of like giving someone, and forgetting interpolation here, the sequence 20, 30, blank, 60, 70, 80 and asking for the two missing tens between 30 and 60. 40 and 50, of course. Presuming the data is an ordered list (in azimuth) of az/el pairs, AND that the last measurement does not close the circle (eg: (0, 1), (90, 5), (180, 5), (270, 2) ) the first step would be to append a data point consisting of the first azimuth data point + 360, but with the same elevation value. With normalization at the output, this would work if the first data point was not at 0. Then one would perform repeated interpolations over pairs of data points, outputting the first pair as the first value, and stopping when the azimuth reached the second pair. Something like (watch out for line wrapping): -=-=-=-=-=-=- import pprint def gatherPoints(): pointList = [] while True: cAz = raw_input(Enter Azimuth in integer degrees (blank line to exit) : ) cAz = cAz.strip() if not cAz: break az = int(cAz) cEl = raw_input(Enter Elevation in real degrees for azimuth %s : % az).strip() el = float(cEl) pointList.append( (az, el) ) if pointList: pointList.append( (pointList[0][0] + 360, pointList[0][1]) ) return pointList def interpolate(start, end, step): slope = float(end[1] - start[1]) / (end[0] - start[0]) iPoints = [ (i, (slope * (i - start[0])) + start[1]) for i in range(start[0], end[0], step) ] return iPoints if __name__ == __main__: points = gatherPoints() output = [] if points: for s in range(len(points) - 1): output.extend(interpolate(points[s], points[s+1], 1)) pprint.pprint(output) -=-=-=-=-=-=- Close. A nice looking piece of code. Something for me to learn from. I play with python on a pretty irregular basis. The game here is like someone gives you five distinct integer numbers from 1 to 10 in order, and one needs to write a program to fill in the gaps. In my case, the numbers go from 0 to 359, and I have lots of gaps. I gave a pretty illustrative example in a post above. 11:10 pm last night. Of course, not only the gaps from 0 to 359 need to be filled in, but the interpolated values of the related values need to be obtained. Elevation. As I just posted to the fellow below you. I decided this morning and roll up my sleeves and write the program. I plan to take a deeper plunge in the next month than my so far erratic look over the last 18 or more months It's working. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Turning py into an Executable Program for Win?
How do I get my py code into some executable form so that Win users who don't have python can execute it? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Web Page: www.speckledwithstars.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
