[QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
As you put it Lori " all this armchair police of the Mexicans is futile" is not so. things can be done about them. there is a group that I correspond with that are now waging battle in Washington against some of the things that Bush is proposing. One of the matters is : that Mexicans not be allowed to have driver's liscenses unless they are here legally. and it passed in the house of rep. but I have been sick with Bronchitis and have not kept up with it. Here in KY the Mexicans get free health care thru the board of health. There are Mexicans working on expired work permits for the state of KY. the govt chooses to look the other way because they claim you can't get the americans to do the jobs they would do. They are living several families to each apartment. The crime rate here is high. If you look at the court dockets you will see that every other court case has a hispanic name. there are been several murders committed here by Mexicans. There are certain subdivisions you don't go to anymore because you will get mugged. and they used to be decent places to live. The town is overrun with them. The north side town Walmart you don't go there at night. They even have a police station there to keep control of the Mexicans. Walmart has several aisles in the grocery part dedicated to mexican foods. and the strange thing is if you ever get behind some of them in line...they all have cash to pay. this means they are working under the table for their wages. We charge or write checks and they pay cash. Sorry you can't have it both ways...either get rid of them or accept them. Seems we are headed for MexAmerica. Carol
Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
I say we should take away giving free health care for them and give free TACO BELL for all...then we could save money lol
Re: [QUAD-L] A really cool poem I found in the draw
I remember before my accident i saw a guy going down the road in an electric wheelchair. I wondered about how he could cope with such a miserable existence. I always thought I would just wheel off the side of a cliff if that ever happened to me. I never thought about HOW I would get to the top of the cliff. I never joined the military because i thought if there was a war, i would get crippled. It wasn't the thought of getting killed , it was the thought of being in a chair that scared me. After i was paralyzed, i never felt like killing myself. Life is still good. Much tougher but still very much worth the effort. It bugs me when i get that look from able bodies cuz i know that they are thinking like i used to. Some of my friends think i am the strongest person in the world because (they say) I'm doing something that they just couldn't handle. I tell them that they probably could they just don't realize it. I'm sure most people on the list can real ate to what I'm saying. I knew i guy that was paralyzed from the waist down in a car wreck and before he even got out of the hospital his sister shot herself because she thought she would have to take care of him for the rest of her lifeshe had a 11 year old girl. He later drank and drugged himself to death. ...AND HE WAS A PARA ! I guess some people really can't handle it. Well this story kinda sucks and i have more like them. I'm sure alot of you do. I guess there's not really a point I'm trying to get to except...it's really not as bad as they think...and they actually can make eye contact with us without offending us or falling to the floor paralyzed."David K. Kelmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bobbie, Thanks for sharing that poem. It was in '76 that I had my accident and I remember how things looked back then. Sure have come a long way in what seems a short time. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I just stumbled upon this poem that was written about me back in 1976, three years post by a friend who was only 15 at the time. AndI wanted to share it with you all. "A Poem for Bobbie" A normal life i will never lead, or to walk or run at an average speed. I sit in my chair with the wheels on the end, resting my legs which will never bend. People wonder as they stop and stare, how a life like this I could possibly bear. But they are to blind to stop and see, that living a life, no matter how it be, is the greatest joy one can ever know, And should not be thought be thought of as only pity and woe. The normal people say, as I wonder with surprise, that a life is not worth living if you cannot rise. In a chair to which I am constantly bound, they think love is something I've never found. They pity me and i wonder why, for it is for them that I sit and cry. The "normal" people is what they are called. But this is a term to which I am appalled. They call theirs a life, and they tend to insist, But a life I live, and they only exist. Carol Scerbo Age 15 June, 1976D.E. WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP IT'S BEEN Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out!
Re: [QUAD-L] Too much water, liquids
I guess I really don't understand the whole salt thing. You need to drink water to keep your body hydrated for your organs and your skin so you do not get breakdown plus to keep your bladder flushed so if you are low on sodium why can't you just add salt to your foods? My doctor also told me that your body goes in cycles with your bowels and bladder. He said that some days you might urinate a lot with light colorurine and other days it's going to be less with darker color urine and that you have to find a balance of how much fluid is you should be drinking. I drink what I want and I prefer to drink more so I urinate instead of less so I don't get UTIs. Jim
Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
I find this statement to be quite bigoted. Even in jest. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans I say we should take away giving free health care for them and give free TACO BELL for all...then we could save money lol
Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
HA , YOU THINK THAT WAS BIGOTED... YOU MUST NOT OF READ IN WHAT IT WAS IN REPLY TO ABOUT MEXAMERICA STUFF.--BESIDES IT WAS JUST HUMOR---WE ARE EVERY RACE RELIGION AND BELIEF IN AMERICA, LIKE IT OR NOT. ALSO THIS LAND WAS STOLEN FROM THE AMERICAN INDIAN AND I AM PART UTE INDIAN. DAN
RE: [QUAD-L] I'm new to the list
Hi Tom, It is always nice to have new people to this group. My name is Lester and I am from Denver Colorado. I am a C4C5 Quad for the past 16 years. Lester -Original Message- From: tom garbisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:24 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm new to the list Hello I'm new to the list, It came thanks to Wally. I've been to Sunsetpines Resort, really nice place to go and Dale is a friend of mine. I'm from WI. and am curious how many are Wisconsinites out there? I'm a c3-4 incomplete quad injured in car accident9-25-98 from central WI. Tom Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check it out! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005
[QUAD-L] I'm new to the list
A warm welcome to the list, Tom. I've wondered what took you so long (lol). Hope that you finally received the chair of your dreams and are comfortable with the results. You have a most interesting story and hope you have time to share with the rest of this International List. Hope that you are enjoying the heat of our summer and hope to see you again, in Sept, for the Abilities Expo-Rosemont. W In a message dated 6/8/05 3:30:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm new to the list, It came thanks to Wally. I've been to Sunsetpines Resort, really nice place to go and Dale is a friend of mine. I'm from WI. and am curious how many are Wisconsinites out there? I'm a c3-4 incomplete quad injured in car accident 9-25-98 from central WI. Tom
Re: [QUAD-L] I'm new to the list
Hey welcome to this nutty list m8, me be a C3/6 7.5 years now and I live in Africa damn that sux, need a beer ... brb "burp" . i'm back. So enjoy us all as we will enjoy you oh watch out for wheelie his in a wheelchair and a bit nutty so shh when he is around Your local Paramedic/Nurse ."burp" QuadMedic LesterSmith wrote: Hi Tom, It is always nice to have new people to this group. My name is Lester and I am from Denver Colorado. I am a C4C5 Quad for the past 16 years. Lester -Original Message- From: tom garbisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:24 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm new to the list Hello I'm new to the list, It came thanks to Wally. I've been to Sunsetpines Resort, really nice place to go and Dale is a friend of mine. I'm from WI. and am curious how many are Wisconsinites out there? I'm a c3-4 incomplete quad injured in car accident9-25-98 from central WI. Tom Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check it out! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 -- Martin T. Brown Director Radical Holdings (Pty) Ltd T/A Radical Mobility (O) +27 11 664-6069 (F) +27 11 955-3743 (C) 082 500 9406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.radicalmobility.com "Engineering Mobility for Accessibility"
[QUAD-L] I'm new to the list- I think
LOL! Hiya Mate! W In a message dated 6/9/05 10:45:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey welcome to this nutty list m8, me be a C3/6 7.5 years now and I live in Africa damn that sux, need a beer ... brb burp . i'm back. So enjoy us all as we will enjoy you oh watch out for wheelie his in a wheelchair and a bit nutty so shh when he is around Your local Paramedic/Nurse .burp QuadMedic
[QUAD-L] Arm Pain
I've been waking up with terrible arm pain. In Seattle I slept with 3 blankets, pulled over my ears. Now in AZ I sleep with a very light blanket, and have it folded down with my arm uncovered Lately in the mornings, my arms tingle like they are cold, but I'm not. And my arms are very sore and my spasms are bad. But after I'm up for a few minutes, I feel much better. I do take pain meds and I'm sure they are worn off by morning (12 hour time release Oxy, but it never lasts that long while I'm up) But that can't be it because I feel better after I get up. I wonder if it can be a symptom of my body being over heated. Or maybe just laying in that position too long is causing some kind of pain. But something is causing my arms to tingle, burn yet feel cold, and ach bad. When I get over heated in the day my arms don't hurt. And before if I laid in 1 position too long I would start to sweat. Anyone else feel this in the mornings? Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
Well, it isn't like they are sending out coupons in Mexico to go to Kentucky for free health care. Kentucky simply has hospital guidelines saying they can't turn people away. Any person. I'm related toone.We are all going to look Asian in a few generations anyway,if we don't destroy ourselves. Melanin is probably a good thing considering how we are ruining our atmosphere. I burn so easily I wear a sombrero and I like afternoon siestas. I bet if you were Mexican you would want to live in Kentucky too. lol The only solution to the problem of Mexicans in the US is for white Americans to have lots and lots of babies. The reason that the crime rate among Hispanics is high isbecause the poverty rate is high.Poor people get desperate and commit stupid acts that they wouldn't if they weren't so poor.If anything I feel badly because they are treated like a dirty little secret. Nobody should be made to feel that way in America. I'm treated that way at times for being a cripple. I don't like it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Look at the list of soldiers names that have died in wars. Hispanics are a growing group and they just want what everyone else wants. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. john
Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
Well said John. ;-)
Re: [QUAD-L] I'm new to the list
Hi Tom, Welcome to the Quad-List. I'm in Texas but am glad Wally recommended us to you. I'm C4/5 29 years post so feel free to ask questions, becausesomeone here will have an answer that will help you. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA tom garbisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I'm new to the list, It came thanks to Wally. I've been to Sunsetpines Resort, really nice place to go and Dale is a friend of mine. I'm from WI. and am curious how many are Wisconsinites out there? I'm a c3-4 incomplete quad injured in car accident9-25-98 from central WI. Tom Discover Yahoo!Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check it out!
Re: Spam Alert: Re: [QUAD-L] FOUND IT! - Medicare Home Health Care
Hi Tom, All I have is Basic Medicare. It would be nice if we could get some HMOs go come to this part of the State. I've heard others with a HMO have good things to say about them. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA tahouston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When daughter was living with me, my Medicare/HMO gave me 49 hours of PCA care, one visit a week from a nursing agency to check my wounds, and two home visits a year if I chose not to make a personal office visit from a doctor. Now that my 18-year-old daughter no longer lives with me, they have decreased my hours to 42 hours for PCA care. I live alone in a three-bedroom ranch in a West suburban area of Chicago. They told me that if I get another roommate or rent out a room, they will return my 49 hours. Go figure.Tom Houston- Original Message - From: S. Dial To: Quadlist Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: Spam Alert: Re: [QUAD-L] FOUND IT! - Medicare Home Health Care 35hrs a week -- whata pipe dream!I don't know of a single qualifying person who receives this amount of HHA care paid for through Medicare - does anyone? Medicare reps told me it only paid for 3 visits a week -period - regardless of condition that's a whopping three hours (whoohoo). I didn't know about all this "agencies get to keep the money" policy NO REPS volunteered that tid-bit what little I've learned has been through what I could glean from their handbook and other fellow sufferers, err, clients. Steph
[QUAD-L] Mexicans-They Are Everywhere !
Dateline-Washington The census bureau just released this information on the US Population. 1 our of 7 people in the United States is Hispanic, according to recent data. This constitutes the fast growing ethnic population in North America. Hispanics are reproducing at a much faster rate than their White, Black, Red or Yellow brothers or sisters. That must mean that our Brown Latinos Women, like sex and are ready to procreate at the drop of a taco. So guys, if your looking for a steady, go Brown! W In a message dated 6/9/05 1:30:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason that the crime rate among Hispanics is high is because the poverty rate is high. Poor people get desperate and commit stupid acts that they wouldn't if they weren't so poor. If anything I feel badly because they are treated like a dirty little secret. Nobody should be made to feel that way in America. I'm treated that way at times for being a cripple. I don't like it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Look at the list of soldiers names that have died in wars. Hispanics are a growing group and they just want what everyone else wants. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Re: [QUAD-L] Arm Pain
My arms are the only bones that aren't described as arthritic. I'm a c-5 quad too. I had bursitis in my shoulder once. Felt like it was broken. I am told that many upper body muscles aren't working really good and only give partial support to your shoulders. Your bones and cartilage wear from repetitive positions. It sucks, but hell, I'm deforming too. Maybe your doctor will give you a cortisone shot. (god I love those). I sure hope you can find a way to control it soon. It sux big time when you can't feel much, but what you do feel hurts. john In a message dated 6/9/2005 1:38:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been waking up with terrible arm pain. In Seattle I slept with 3 blankets, pulled over my ears. Now in AZ I sleep with a very light blanket, and have it folded down with my arm uncovered Lately in the mornings, my arms tingle like they are cold, but I'm not. And my arms are very sore and my spasms are bad. But after I'm up for a few minutes, I feel much better. I do take pain meds and I'm sure they are worn off by morning (12 hour time release Oxy, but it never lasts that long while I'm up) But that can't be it because I feel better after I get up. I wonder if it can be a symptom of my body being over heated. Or maybe just laying in that position too long is causing some kind of pain. But something is causing my arms to tingle, burn yet feel cold, and ach bad. When I get over heated in the day my arms don't hurt. And before if I laid in 1 position too long I would start to sweat. Anyone else feel this in the mornings? Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] Mexicans-They Are Everywhere !
No thanks, Can't put up with that Latino attitude and quick temper. Not my taste in a woman. Gotta have a lot of lattitude for my smart-ass remarks. Stunt Dateline-Washington The census bureau just released this information on the US Population. 1 our of 7 people in the United States is Hispanic, according to recent data. This constitutes the fast growing ethnic population in North America. Hispanics are reproducing at a much faster rate than their White, Black, Red or Yellow brothers or sisters. That must mean that our Brown Latinos Women, like sex and are ready to procreate at the drop of a taco. So guys, if your looking for a steady, go Brown! W In a message dated 6/9/05 1:30:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason that the crime rate among Hispanics is high is because the poverty rate is high. Poor people get desperate and commit stupid acts that they wouldn't if they weren't so poor. If anything I feel badly because they are treated like a dirty little secret. Nobody should be made to feel that way in America. I'm treated that way at times for being a cripple. I don't like it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Look at the list of soldiers names that have died in wars. Hispanics are a growing group and they just want what everyone else wants. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. -- Freedom: United States Constitution© 1791 All Rights Preserved My first Domain http://nw-in.com/index.html http://quads.nw-in.com/quad-enter.html Pics http://quads.nw-in.com/quad-list/quad-list1.htm Home page. http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/homeincyberspace/ Computer Graphics portfolio. http://tnthompson1.tripod.com/index.htm
Re: [QUAD-L] Mexicans-They Are Everywhere !
I swear I didn't mean to sound racist. I apologize to all. Mexican and south American's are predominantly Roman Catholic. Birth control is not practiced or even taught. Ignorance isn't bliss. Ignorance is 14 hungry mouths to feed. I'm sure there may be other reasons but I didn't mean Hispanic women are easy. john In a message dated 6/9/2005 4:09:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dateline-WashingtonThe census bureau just released this information on the US Population. 1 our of 7people in the United States is Hispanic, according to recent data. This constitutesthe fast growing ethnic population in North America. Hispanics are reproducing at a much faster rate than their White, Black, Red or Yellow brothers or sisters.That must mean that our Brown Latinos Women, like sex and are ready to procreateat the drop of a taco. So guys, if your looking for a steady, go Brown!WIn a message dated 6/9/05 1:30:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason that the crime rate among Hispanics is high is because the poverty rate is high. Poor people get desperate and commit stupid acts that they wouldn't if they weren't so poor. If anything I feel badly because they are treated like a dirty little secret. Nobody should be made to feel that way in America. I'm treated that way at times for being a cripple. I don't like it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.Look at the list of soldiers names that have died in wars. Hispanics are a growing group and they just want what everyone else wants. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Re: [QUAD-L] Too much water, liquids
Hi Jim, Carbohydrate and electrolytes combination is used to treat or prevent dehydration (the loss of too much water from the body) that may occur with severe diarrhea, especially in babies and young children. Although thisdoes not immediately stop the diarrhea, it replaces the water and some important salts (electrolytes), such as sodium and potassium, that are lost from the body during diarrhea, and helps prevent more serious problems. Some carbohydrate and electrolytes solutions may also be used after surgery when food intake has been stopped. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I really don't understand the whole salt thing. You need to drink water to keep your body hydrated for your organs and your skin so you do not get breakdown plus to keep your bladder flushed so if you are low on sodium why can't you just add salt to your foods? My doctor also told me that your body goes in cycles with your bowels and bladder. He said that some days you might urinate a lot with light colorurine and other days it's going to be less with darker color urine and that you have to find a balance of how much fluid is you should be drinking. I drink what I want and I prefer to drink more so I urinate instead of less so I don't get UTIs. Jim
Re: [QUAD-L] Mexicans-They Are Everywhere !
No need for anyone to be offended...like Tom Cruise the actor said.RACE ? What Race...WE ARE ALL PART OF THE HUMAN RACE. Dan
[QUAD-L] They Are Everywhere ! Hola Senoir!
John, I'm yanking your chain. And you past the test (if there was one). Hispanic woman seem to be very fertile these days and you know it takes two to Tango! Once you go Brown... They won't let you down! W In a message dated 6/9/05 3:24:15 PM, DeLiMiTeD4 writes: I swear I didn't mean to sound racist. I apologize to all. Mexican and south American's are predominantly Roman Catholic. Birth control is not practiced or even taught. Ignorance isn't bliss. Ignorance is 14 hungry mouths to feed. I'm sure there may be other reasons but I didn't mean Hispanic women are easy. john
Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
"Look at the list of soldiers names that have died in wars. Hispanics are a growing group and they just want what everyone else wants. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.john" WE, as a country, had to fight for that life, liberty and pursuit and become an independent nation. Why is Mexico (and their people) exempt from doing the same? We had to learn... they can too! America can NOT continue to be a 'break' for everyone who thinks they observe it! God, I'll say it again The Holy Roman Empire lasted longer than we have been today known as America. BUT they began to fall apart from the inside out. And if one reads The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roman Empire one will see that it nearly identically ~mirrors~ what is happening in America today ever so slowly... the boiling frog syndrome. Close your eyes to it or not. Lori
Re: [QUAD-L] Mexicans-They Are Everywhere !
OMG!! Do you think everyone is white on this list? I am highly offended by your statement that Brown women are easy.at least this is how I read it. It is VERY hard to read sarcasm in an email. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Mexicans-They Are Everywhere ! Dateline-Washington The census bureau just released this information on the US Population. 1 our of 7 people in the United States is Hispanic, according to recent data. This constitutes the fast growing ethnic population in North America. Hispanics are reproducing at a much faster rate than their White, Black, Red or Yellow brothers or sisters. That must mean that our Brown Latinos Women, like sex and are ready to procreate at the drop of a taco. So guys, if your looking for a steady, go Brown! W In a message dated 6/9/05 1:30:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason that the crime rate among Hispanics is high is because the poverty rate is high. Poor people get desperate and commit stupid acts that they wouldn't if they weren't so poor. If anything I feel badly because they are treated like a dirty little secret. Nobody should be made to feel that way in America. I'm treated that way at times for being a cripple. I don't like it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Look at the list of soldiers names that have died in wars. Hispanics are a growing group and they just want what everyone else wants. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
[QUAD-L] Mexicans-They Are Everywhere !
I too would feel offended (a bit) if another woman posted that Hispanic Male were more potent than their fellow North Americans. The proof is the number of children conceived thru their efforts. But, if the latest census figures are correct somebody is doing something when the lights are out. Liars figure, but figures don't lie. That shouldn't imply that Hispanic women are easy. We both know that aren't. But they do enjoy sex, in lieu of McDonalds. (lol) I'm just kidding! W In a message dated 6/9/05 4:09:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OMG!! Do you think everyone is white on this list? I am highly offended by your statement that Brown women are easy.at least this is how I read it. It is VERY hard to read sarcasm in an email. - Original Message -
Re: [QUAD-L] Arm Pain
Yes, Greg, I feel the sensation your describing but it's not limited to a single body part. I AM in more pain mornings but always have been. Some days are better than others and vice versa. I too take the 12-hr-time-release Oxy but it doesn't solve everything. Moving to the heat of AZ has me feeling OVERALL 90% better than in the cold, drab, clody, rainy, northeast for 20 of my quad years. No answers but you're not alone. Julie (quad member here) I were just talking about these "new" things that pop up now then but can't always tie it 100% to any one thing. I know mine is prolly from syringomyelia or just damaged nerves. Lori C4/5 complete, 25 yrs www.michaelsons.org ---Original Message--- From: Greg Date: 06/09/05 10:38:18 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Arm Pain I've been waking up with terrible arm pain. In Seattle I slept with 3 blankets, pulled over my ears. Now in AZ I sleep with a very light blanket, and have it folded down with my arm uncovered Lately in the mornings, my arms tingle like they are cold, but I'm not. And my arms are very sore and my spasms are bad. But after I'm up for a few minutes, I feel much better. I do take pain meds and I'm sure they are worn off by morning (12 hour time release Oxy, but it never lasts that long while I'm up) But that can't be it because I feel better after I get up. I wonder if it can be a symptom of my body being over heated. Or maybe just laying in that position too long is causing some kind of pain. But something is causing my arms to tingle, burn yet feel cold, and ach bad. When I get over heated in the day my arms don't hurt. And before if I laid in 1 position too long I would start to sweat. Anyone else feel this in the mornings? Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] Mexicans-They Are Everywhere !
I rest my case. Stunt OMG!! Do you think everyone is white on this list? I am highly offended by your statement that Brown women are easy.at least this is how I read it. It is VERY hard to read sarcasm in an email.
Re: [QUAD-L] Too much water, liquids
It's all about balance I presume. I feel fine but if bloodwork shows an anomaly than IT TOO needs addressing. I don't need electrolyte problems along with all my other problems. I'm not panicking and stopping ALOT of water intake for your exact reason ... just cutting back a bit. Lori ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/09/05 07:13:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Too much water, liquids I guess I really don't understand the whole salt thing. You need to drink water to keep your body hydrated for your organs and your skin so you do not get breakdown plus to keep your bladder flushed so if you are low on sodium why can't you just add salt to your foods? My doctor also told me that your body goes in cycles with your bowels and bladder. He said that some days you might urinate a lot with light colorurine and other days it's going to be less with darker color urine and that you have to find a balance of how much fluid is you should be drinking. I drink what I want and I prefer to drink more so I urinate instead of less so I don't get UTIs. Jim
Re: [QUAD-L] Fw: Accessible Resort in WI - Summer Activities
Spent a month in Green Lake Wisconsin back when I was 16. My mother auditioned for a soloist voice position and got the job. It was a church resort. All the music people stayed in a really neat stone house tucked back into a clearing next to the woods. There was a stone fountain in the living room which at that time was s neat! I worked in food service. Had to make sure my number of tables had all the things they wanted, drinks, condiments, hot toast or rolls depending on the meal, and clear the tables and set up for the next meal. It was beautiful!! I would leave for morning breakfast early so I could go to the meadow and watch the deer, if I was lucky! The mosquitos were big enough to carry you away, but other that that, it was so lush and green, there was the lake and a pool, crafts for guests and workers--did some ceramics, and could try some water sports. I tried water skiing and got up the first time! That day the lake was very rough as so many boats were on it, but managed a few good runs. The next time there was a lull in boat traffic so it was smooth. The boat went faster which scared me, but the real problem was the strength it took to just hang on to the rope! Whew! my arms, hands and shoulders were not used to that, so had to let go. I went down gently, but another gal in the house fell and a ski hit her thigh and left a nasty bruise! It was a very good month! Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: QuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Fw: Accessible Resort in WI - Summer Activities ---Original Message--- From: BADF Disabled Services Date: 06/08/05 07:38:20 To: Mark Jackson Subject: Accessible Resort in WI - Summer Activities A friend recently told me If you can dream it, You can do it. Well, my dream is becoming reality. The new cabins at Sunset Pines Resort have turned out beautiful. The weather is not assisting our landscaping projects but we are working through it. The fish are biting in the stocked lake and the pontoon is docked and ready on Mead Lake. SUMMER IS HERE!!! I've been working on rewriting and updating the resort web site. I feel it's more user friendly now. In the near future I hope to be adding a video tour of the resort that you can view on your computer. There is a Link to my Page button if anyone has a link to their web site you would like to add You can also place my banner/link on your web site by clicking on the Put my Banner on your Page button. Cruise the new web site. Especially check out the Upcoming Events and the Discounts Specials pages under the Updates/Pics/Events button. Just click on the All Entries bar at this link - http://sunsetpinesresort com/cgi-local/update/cbdirect.cgi If you have not already done so, I encourage everyone to sign up for the Resort NEWSLETTER. I sent out a NEWSLETTER today through the web site. It will state in your e-mail Subject Line - Sunset Pines Resort Newsletter - UPDATED WEB SITE. If you did not receive that e-mail, you are not signed up yet. Located on the home page, just enter your e-mail address. In a few weeks I will be running an ad campaign through the NEWSLETTER that involves Free Beer?!? Feel free to let you friends know about the resort and its web site. My first priority are those with disabilities but the cabins are useable by anyone in need of a vacation spot or a location for a reunion, wedding or social function. Summer dates are filling in fast. ROCK CREEK DISABLED OUTDOORS, Inc. is a newly formed non-profit organization created to assist disabled individuals in accessing the many recreational opportunities available that they may not be able to afford otherwise. To offer a tax deductible donation or for more information, please contact Dale through the Sunset Pines Resort web site. Have a great summer and please help spread the word. I will be adding and changing photo's as the landscaping evolves around the new cabins. I hope it will be as beautiful as my dreams. We are aware that on occasion someone will volunteer a friends email address If you didn't submit your email address and would like to be removed, please reply to this letter with REMOVE in the subject line. We will remove you at once. Take Care Have a Great Day ;} Dale R. Petkovsek www.sunsetpinesresort.com
Re: [QUAD-L] TMA Inkjet Toner Cartridge Recycling Program
Crud, I just threw one away the other day. Will those cheaper compatible for cartridges be eligable? I found out the black cartridge will not work in my Epsom, but the color ones will. I can at least save some m oney on the color, but hate paying so much for the black. Why are they so expensive? Cause they 'can'? We 'need' them? ugh. Office depot gives paper for bringing in empties, but would be glad to send them to the website addy. Where on the page do you sign up? I did not look very hard. grin Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-List@eskimo.com; vent-users@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] TMA Inkjet Toner Cartridge Recycling Program See our web site for more information: http://recycle.myelitis.org/http://recycle.myelitis.org/ Simply collect those empty inkjet and toner cartridges, box them up and send them in using our free, pre-addressed Collection Boxes and Baggies. The TMA will earn up to $18 (for toner cartridges) to be used toward research for and education of neuroimmunologic diseases (which include: Transverse myellitis, Neuromyelitis optica, Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis, Optic neuritis and Multiple Sclerosis) Nearly a million empties are thrown away in the United States every day, so they shouldn't be hard to find. You can register online to order free shipping supplies and shipping labels, manage your account, see live receiving reports of checked in cartridges and credits issued and view box order history plus download and print a free customized shipping label instantly online. Why recycle Inkjet Toner Cartridges? Recycling keeps large amounts of plastics out of landfills. Every year over 300 million cartridges are thrown away. This means for each cartridge, about 2.5 pounds of plastic is thrown into a landfill. It will never go away! Recycling saves natural resources. To produce a single new laser cartridge, over 3 quarts of oil are used. In contrast, a recycled cartridge only requires 1 quart of oil to be able to be reused. Recycling saves two quarts of oil per cartridge. This year alone, toner cartridge remanufacturing will save over eleven million (11,000,000) gallons of oil. Thank you for your support!
Re: [QUAD-L] blood pressure
Thanks. I don't know what is making my blood pressure go up when I lay down, plus do not know when it goes up. It may be as soon as I am in bed, it may go up gradually and be high by morning. I do not feel any different. I seldom get dysreflexia and it only shows up as splotches on my neck. As soon as I am turned on my back--am on my side doing BP or eating breakfast--it goes away. The thing that bothers me, is that my rehab doc ignores it, but it can't be good for my heart in general. I am discovering my father and his side of the family nearly all have had heart problems, especially the men. He has 9 siblings. On my mothers side its allergies and cataracts. I have already had a bout with blood clots in my lungs and opted to stop taking -oh what is that blood thinner?--after 2 years and the big clot in my leg was gone. That was 7-8 years ago. I'll get concerned enough one of these days and ask for a consult for a heart doc. Until then, I really can't do anything. take care, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LISA GOLEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Quad-List quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] blood pressure I'm forwarding this to the Q-List. I think it was meant to be posted there. LISA GOLEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dana, For low bp I use pro-amatine and for high bp I use clonidine. I'am a C4-5 quad for 30 yrs and have been dealing with Autonomatic Dysreflexia for many yrs. Let me know if you any questions? Sincerely, Lisa David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dana, Antihistamines (Benadryl is a brand name) are used to relieve or prevent the symptoms of hay fever and other types of allergy. They work by preventing the effects of a substance called histamine, which is produced by the body. Histamine can cause itching, sneezing, runny nose, and watery eyes. Also, in some persons histamine can close up the bronchial tubes (air passages of the lungs) and make breathing difficult. Some of the antihistamines are also used to prevent motion sickness, nausea, vomiting, and dizziness. In patients with Parkinson's disease, diphenhydramine may be used to decrease stiffness and tremors. Also, the syrup form of diphenhydramine is used to relieve the cough due to colds or hay fever. In addition, since antihistamines may cause drowsiness as a side effect, some of them may be used to help people go to sleep. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 29 Years Post Texas, USA Dana Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about benadryl--I use it as a sleeper, but take much more than it says to. Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] blood pressure I think ephedrine is the active ingredient in sudafed and actifed. It can be gotten over the counter. One of those meds you don't want with a heart condition. john In a message dated 5/28/2005 4:53:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have the same problem Dana. My pressure is really low in the chair but shoots through the roof as soon as I get in bed. That's why I don't use any medications for my low pr! essure problems. I used to take ephedrine to help with low pressure but no pharmacies around here will fill prescriptions for it anymore. Eric Dana Miller wrote: My BP has been all over the map the last couple of years. I used to routibnely be 90/60 give or take even 80/50+ was normal. Since I got home from my last skin flap it is not unusual fot me to be 150/98, then get in my chair and it would drop to 90/60 or there abouts. Lately my weekly nurse has been taking it while in my chair and this last week was 150+/98. Yet at the doc office 2 days before was (with one of those machine type things that take your pulse etc.) 100/70+. I took my blood pressure 3 times during my morning routine for a week--first when my attendant got here--was always very high. Then after breakfast and on my back--went down a little. Last about 10 minutes in my chair, and it would be normally low. I showed it to my rehab doc and he did not have much to say because if he gave me something to bring it down, I would pass out in my chair. Now it seems to be consistantly higher for my low readings. This has been going on for several years--the really high readings while in bed, but always went back down to normal after I would get up. Lately the 'low' readings are not as low. It has been quite a while since I have had even a 90/60! I am going to see and indocrinologist (sp?) in june to make sure myblood levels and enzymes etc are all good. Got really sick last week and had a strange rash that ran from my groin area up to my belly button and up my sides about halfway. The actual sickness only lasted 1 day, but the ! rash took 4-5 days to leave. At least the doc got to see it. Whatever it is, it was out of the
Re: [QUAD-L] A good idea I'd like to share
Great tip, Bobbie, I'm getting one of those! Thanks. Steph
Re: [QUAD-L] blood pressure
My BP is the same. Low in the chair and higher in bed. Jim
[QUAD-L] true story one boy's recruitment experience
if you want to validate this story go here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/paynter/227497_paynter08.html A single mom with a meager income, Marcia raised her kids on the farm where, until recently, she grew salad greens for restaurants. Axel's father, a Marine Corps vet who served in Vietnam, died when Axel was 4. Clearly the recruiters knew all that and more. You don't want to be a burden to your mom, they told him. Be a man. Make your father proud. Never mind that, because of his own experience in the service, Marcia says enlistment for his son is the last thing Axel's dad would have wanted. The next weekend, when Marcia went to Seattle for the Folklife Festival and Axel was home alone, two recruiters showed up at the door. Axel repeated the family mantra, but he was feeling frazzled and worn down by then. The sergeant was friendly but, at the same time, aggressively insistent. This time, when Axel said, Not interested, the sarge turned surly, snapping, You're making a big (bleeping) mistake! Next thing Axel knew, the same sergeant and another recruiter showed up at the LaConner Brewing Co., the restaurant where Axel works. And before Axel, an older cousin and other co-workers knew or understood what was happening, Axel was whisked away in a car. They said we were going somewhere but I didn't know we were going all the way to Seattle, Axel said. Just a few tests. And so many free opportunities, the recruiters told him. He could pursue his love of chemistry. He could serve anywhere he chose and leave any time he wanted on an apathy discharge if he didn't like it. And he wouldn't have to go to Iraq if he didn't want to. At about 3:30 in the morning, Alex was awakened in the motel and fed a little something. Twelve hours later, without further sleep or food, he had taken a battery of tests and signed a lot of papers he hadn't gotten a chance to read. Just formalities, he was told. Sign here. And here. Nothing to worry about. By then Marcia had freaked out. She went to the Burlington recruiting center where the door was open but no one was home. So she grabbed all the cards and numbers she could find, including the address of the Seattle-area testing center. Then, with her grown daughter in tow, she high-tailed it south, frantically phoning Axel whose cell phone had been confiscated so he wouldn't be distracted during tests. Axel's grandfather was in the hospital dying, she told the people at the desk. He needed to come home right away. She would have said just about anything. But, even after being told her son would be brought right out, her daughter spied him being taken down a separate hall and into another room. So she dashed down the hall and grabbed him by the arm. They were telling me I needed to 'be a man' and stand up to my family, Axel said. What he needed, it turned out, was a lawyer. Five minutes and $250 after an attorney called the recruiters, Axel's signed papers and his cell phone were in the mail. --Apple-Mail-1-460969676 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII fontfamilyparamVerdana/paramcolorparam,,/ paramsmallerif you want to validate this story go here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/paynter/227497_paynter08.html A single mom with a meager income, Marcia raised her kids on the farm where, until recently, she grew salad greens for restaurants./smaller/colorsmaller colorparam,,/param Axel's father, a Marine Corps vet who served in Vietnam, died when Axel was 4./color colorparam,,/param Clearly the recruiters knew all that and more./color colorparam,,/param You don't want to be a burden to your mom, they told him. Be a man. Make your father proud. Never mind that, because of his own experience in the service, Marcia says enlistment for his son is the last thing Axel's dad would have wanted./color colorparam,,/param The next weekend, when Marcia went to Seattle for the Folklife Festival and Axel was home alone, two recruiters showed up at the door./color colorparam,,/param Axel repeated the family mantra, but he was feeling frazzled and worn down by then. The sergeant was friendly but, at the same time, aggressively insistent. This time, when Axel said, Not interested, the sarge turned surly, snapping, You're making a big (bleeping) mistake!/color colorparam,,/param Next thing Axel knew, the same sergeant and another recruiter showed up at the LaConner Brewing Co., the restaurant where Axel works. And before Axel, an older cousin and other co-workers knew or understood what was happening, Axel was whisked away in a car./color colorparam,,/param They said we were going somewhere but I didn't know we were going all the way to Seattle, Axel said./color colorparam,,/param Just a few tests. And so many free opportunities, the recruiters told
Re: [QUAD-L] I'm new to the list
Hi Tom, I'm sure you remember me. I had never heard of this resort before today and am definitely interested in going. It's not too far from Loyal and as you already know, that's where both sides of my family are from. Maybe we could meet there sometime. tom garbisch wrote: Hello I'm new to the list, It came thanks to Wally. I've been to Sunsetpines Resort, really nice place to go and Dale is a friend of mine. I'm from WI. and am curious how many are Wisconsinites out there? I'm a c3-4 incomplete quad injured in car accident9-25-98 from central WI. Tom Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check it out!
Re: [QUAD-L] TMA Inkjet Toner Cartridge Recycling Program
From what I remember reading, with cheaper cartridges we might not get any money but they will be disposed of properly. The sign up is at the bottom left column. http://recycle.myelitis.org/ I found cheap ink cartridges at 00inkjets, shop through iGive.com and 14% goes to your favorite charity. http://www.igive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=3417mid=30274 At 02:20 PM 6/9/2005, Dana Miller wrote: Crud, I just threw one away the other day. Will those cheaper compatible for cartridges be eligable? I found out the black cartridge will not work in my Epsom, but the color ones will. I can at least save some m oney on the color, but hate paying so much for the black. Why are they so expensive? Cause they 'can'? We 'need' them? ugh. Office depot gives paper for bringing in empties, but would be glad to send them to the website addy. Where on the page do you sign up? I did not look very hard. grin
Re: [QUAD-L] Arm Pain
Thx, I don't know much about bursitis, but do know I too have syringomyelia. At least I have a syrinx in my neck. A hollow spot. The surgeon said he preffered not doing anything to it unless I started loosing arm movement. He said my neck was bent funny with a sharp bend thatbothered him. He said the risk was not worth it in his opinion. The warm weather has helped in so many ways. I don't feel that tight shaky cold that I did even whenit was80 inside. etc. I feel so much more relaxed. Plus I just get out more. I went on a mile ride just for fun today. I got a cell phone I could use myself, so I feel safe going out alone, no "what if's" about my chair breaking. There is a really cool new housing developement being build 4 bolcks away I went to. They have a lake with paths going around it. Houses real close to the lake, but tiny backyards, no room for a pool. Sorry, if I'm paying $600,000 for a house in AZ, I want at least room for a pool. The city is building a new 10 acrepark at the end of my street. It's a week late, but almost done. I go every day just to go look, just for a reason to go out alone. The sun and Oxycontinhave really helped my pain, but my mornings a getting bad. I'll try changing the hight of my bed's head at night. Greg Th
Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
I know, Stunt... Why we try is beyond me. My husband I were just discussing what "the masses" believe when told A, B, or C.Freakin scary. Lori ---Original Message--- From: Stuntman Date: 06/09/05 14:27:47 To: Lori Michaelson Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans Lori, You can't pry open a closed mind. You can lead a Liberal to knowledge, but you can't make them think. The "ME" generation has their blinders on. Stunt
Re: [QUAD-L] Armchair police of Mexicans
The only solution to the problem of Mexicans in the US is for white Americans to have lots and lots of babies. that'll teach them ok, and we can send THEM to college since we'll be busy feeding kids instead. that'll be the biggest hoot ever. those dummys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it isn't like they are sending out coupons in Mexico to go to Kentucky for free health care. Kentucky simply has hospital guidelines saying they can't turn people away. Any person. I'm related toone.We are all going to look Asian in a few generations anyway,if we don't destroy ourselves. Melanin is probably a good thing considering how we are ruining our atmosphere. I burn so easily I wear a sombrero and I like afternoon siestas. I bet if you were Mexican you would want to live in Kentucky too. lol The only solution to the problem of Mexicans in the US is for white Americans to have lots and lots of babies. The reason that the crime rate among Hispanics is high isbecause the poverty rate is high.Poor people get desperate and commit stupid acts that they wouldn't if they weren't so poor.If anything I feel badly because they are treated like a dirty little secret. Nobody should be made to feel that way in America. I'm treated that! way at times for being a cripple. I don't like it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Look at the list of soldiers names that have died in wars. Hispanics are a growing group and they just want what everyone else wants. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. john Dave(what's a quad?) Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out!
RE: [QUAD-L] Silas,
Once again, clap clap. I cannot put it so eloquently, but basically, some ass-kickin' was needed and ass-kickin' was accomplished. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Stuntman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:23 PM To: Silas Shelburne; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] Silas, While we as quads may feel that priorities are not correct, as Americans we should realize 9/11 changed many things. Gone was that secuirity we felt, seperated from what is a daily way of life in places like Israel, Chile, Indonesa, Pakistan, Sri-Lanka, and many other places where Islamic Facists and other groups of Terrorists have been waging their war on modern society. I'm more pissed off at the Leftist Media BS which ignores everything good happening while overblowing things like the ABUSE (not TORTURE) which a few were guilty of in Abu Grav, the story about our soldiers mistreating the Koran that turned out to be a LIE run by News Week, which caused riots resulting in deaths. When the truth came out that detainies had been flushing its pages down the toilet, not a word was heard out of the Middle East. People like Ted Kennedy should sit down and shut up instead of trying to use this for political gain. All they do is add more fuel to the fire which Al Gazeera can't wait to use.
[QUAD-L] re: overload of Mexicans
I dont think being poor is any excuse for Mexicans coming to the US illegally.If they want to come here why cant they do it the correct way. As for Asia and the Chinese they have a large country, perhaps we could round up all the Mexicans that are here illegally and give them a choice of going back to where they come from or going to China. What really ticks me off about all this is my youngest son married a Chinese girl last year in China. They are trying to do things the LEGAL way and get her over here the proper way but seems there is a 40,000 people back log waiting to come to the US. It is people from all over the world wanting to come the legal way. Why cant the Mexicans wait and come legally. Do you know if you emply one and they have an expired work permit you can get a huge fine. I did employ one several years ago and she worked fine for a while, then she started wanting more money and for me to pay her insurance so she could have a baby. I didn't have the money to pay her $15.00 an hr plus several hundred dollars for a woman of child producing years to have insurance. She just up and quit on me the day she told me this leaving us without a caregiver. She ended up working someplace else and having a baby thru the board of health and you know what hospital she had it at...University where I work. These people DO PLAN on staying in this country no matter what. What are they going to do send the parents back and keep the babies here? I think the citizenship laws need to be changed to correct the problem. Carol
