Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs

[John S.]

Well, Silas mine has a flaw in the electronics that causes dead spots in the 
recline system. You can get around this by simply turning off the power and 
restarting. It is capable of more speed than I'm able to control. If you don't 
fly, don't let them give you gell cel batteries.
On the bright side, its very freaking comfortable. Armor your feet if you got 
those tiny heel plates. Bolt a peice of metal the size of your foot to that 
little heel plate. You'll thank me when you hit something. It is so 
maneuverable its easy to think you'll get through places.
Best chair I ever had. Spent 30 hours in it during power outage. It rocked! 
Never caused a sore or irritated a bad spot.
I think you'll be happy with it.

john


- Original Message 
From: Silas Shelburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:16:29 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs


I’m expecting a new TDX3 any day now, I swear medicade approved the chair the 
first time.  I started the process in July so its took about 4 months, it would 
have been sooner but my Drs.  Secretary didn’t fax the paper work.  We just so 
happened to call and check on the progress and Holland medical hadn’t received 
the needed paper work, so that slowed the order about 4 weeks.  What’s wrong 
with these medical equipment companies, you would think they would have called 
to see what was going on.  Hell they don’t give a flip about you, my old 
Invacare was down so if I hadn’t had my extreme I would be stuck in bed.  I 
hope I like the TDX anybody have any complaints with theirs?  Silas 
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
 
You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more 
difficult today than it was just 5 years ago.  Especially if CMS is paying for 
that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to 
see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. 
 The
evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME.  The DME will 
then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit 
those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the 
perfect chair.  Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no.  
Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and 
submitted.
 
The process could take 6 months to a year.  Maybe longer.  Sometimes shorter.
Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/27/2007 12:29:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have 
invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own 
wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years 
old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of 
wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and 
batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the 
chairs shall last 7 years!
 
My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices 
where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid)
 
Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience?
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Re: [QUAD-L] Best ER in Phoenix?

[Lori Michaelson]

Medicine and people in the medical field have changed so much since the
1970s. I think it was just recently that I wrote how little people care
anymore and when you find the ones that do... they are few and far between.

A hospital may be great for one thing (even for us quadriplegics) but
terrible for another thing. There are too many things to consider. The staff
ON DUTY THEN, the ER doctors, and the hospital itself to mention a few. And
the workers are always changing. A hospital may have a great reputation but
may fail greatly for the needs that we have.

For example... I was scared to death to have my huge bladder stones removed
a year and a half ago. If it were not for the anesthesiologist making the
right call for me... things could have turned out very badly. I love my
doctor and trusted my Dr. so there was no problem there.  It turned out that
the whole experience was beyond fantastic! The nurses in the emergency room
for the procedure were crowding around me like mother hens making sure I was
comfortable *constantly.*

I'd better mention here that there was a snafu between the doctor's office
and the hospital before the procedure even took place and when I went to
have my preop work done... the administrator, the head nurse at the
hospital, etc. etc. showed up just for that!   I think I had made the
impression that if they were not going to listen to me about how my body
reacts they were going to be in big trouble.

Now, when I had to go to that SAME hospital emergency room this past August
when the home health agency nurse could not get my catheter in... it was a
nightmare! They just left me in a room totally unattended. The emergency
room doctor began lecturing me about all the normal bladder works, etc. when
he did not have a clue about autonomic dysreflexia, etc. even though me and
my husband tried to tell him the severity of it.

I guess you were only asking about the best emergency room but it still
stands that the staff and the doctors are changing all the time and medical
personnel are not like they were years ago to our dismay.

I cannot believe that they did not tell you about your other problem! You
have the right to know! If I were you I would go to the administrator of the
hospital and talk about their Bill of Rights and much more!

Too many people brush things like that often asked what exacerbates poor
medical care. After all... whether they take care of you or were you in some
way... they still get paid!

Lori Michaelson

C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post

Tucson, AZ


On 10/27/07, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Since I moved to AZ I have not had any real medical issues that called
> for me to be admitted.
>
> Until this week.
>
> My local hospital is nice and they do all my x-rays, labs, etc., but they
> are not real quad savvy.
>
> If I have to go into the ER again, I think I'll go up into Phoenix, but
> what hospital???
>
> There is a number of them with different branched.
>
>
>
> For you Phoenix Quads, what is the best Spinal Cord Injury Hospital?
>
> I assume it is St Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center, at 7th and Thomas?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>



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Tucson, AZ

RE: [QUAD-L] Best ER in Phoenix?

[Greg]

I thank you much. I thought ST Joseph was the major SCI hospital in the
area. I'll have to read up and call Good Samaritan.

I went to my local ER and they admitted me for 3 days for a UTI. After I got
out, I went to my family doc for another matter. He says to me "I see you
just got out of the hospital and had some fluid in your lungs and
"Pericardial Effusion". (a little fluid around the heart). They never told
me any of that. And I still have fevers and chills. My doc got me on
antibiotics and I go in to see a urologist.  I'm not real happy with my
local hospital.

Greg

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:55 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Best ER in Phoenix?

 

Good   Samaritan Medical Center  at  E
Mcdowell Rd, Phoenix - (602) 239-2000 has the 'reputation' of being the
primary SCI hospital in Phoenix.  

i went there once in 1975 or so to talk to someone who had an SCI - a
pep-talk as i remember.

 .

Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

[John S.]

Paul,
Off hand, I'd say increase your fibre intake. Citricel pills or whatevers 
cheapest. Never under estimate a shot or two of prune juice a 8 or so hours 
ahead of time. The Mirilax others are mentioning is cool. 
It is actually polyethylene glycol. It is hydro-dynamic so it absorbs water and 
carries it all the way to your bowel. This creates the proverbial, "smooth 
move".
With some added fibre and mirilax you may not need 2 magic bullets.
Ohyea. If your taking anti biotics or narcotics, please take some acidophylus 
and/or other probiotics

best of luck and wishes.
john

- Original Message 
From: Paul Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:47:15 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION


Hello folks,
 
Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6 
43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year, my 
BP has become less than routine.
 
I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 
an hour.all done.
 
Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.  
Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where I do 
range of motion and another suppository or two.  That works...but it 
takes another hour or so.
 
Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.
 
Thanks so much for your help!
 
Paul
San Diego, CA.

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Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs

[John S.]

Allot of these new fangled chairs have seperate controls for the anti shear 
back as well as the legs raising and lowering. By raising your legs befor you 
recline and tilt, this feature can use your own legs to push you cack in your 
seat. 
It also means your not seated in your chair quite right. but its a work around 
fix untill the doctors and pt decide to re-seat your chair.

best wishes,
john



- Original Message 
From: Ms Linda Ferrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 2:52:49 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs


What are leg controls?
Lindaf
- Original Message - 
From: Eric W Rudd 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs


That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon.
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
-Original Message-
From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM
To: John S.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs


My Quatum Pride 6000 ( 
http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html ) is 
a good chair.  Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg controls.  They 
really help keep me up on the seat.  
 
With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
Texas, USA 


 



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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

[Dan]

Did/does it help?


KK wrote:

Yes I use Miralax every day in my morning coffee.  Started using it as a
prescription item.  When it came over the counter, it was still cheaper to get 
it
with prescription.


KK

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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

[John S.]

Mirilax works well for me. No cramps. I take three scoops in drinks the day 
before and use a bisocodyl suppository about 15 minutes befor i get on my 
commode. No hemmeroids, no real problems. Do not take a narcotic within 6 hours 
of your planned BM. Drink lots of water. Eat some greens. 
Mirilax is a must if you take narcotics.

john



- Original Message 
From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:01:58 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

Has anyone tried Miralax?

Dan


At 11:47 PM 10/27/2007 -0700, Paul Jacobson said something that elicited my 
response:
  
>Hello folks,
> 
>Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6 
>43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year, my 
>BP has become less than routine.
> 
>I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 
>an hour.all done.
> 
>Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.  
>Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where I do 
>range of motion and another suppository or two.  That works...but it 
>takes another hour or so.
> 
>Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.
> 
>Thanks so much for your help!
> 
>Paul
>San Diego, CA.

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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

[KK]

Yes I use Miralax every day in my morning coffee.  Started using it as a
prescription item.  When it came over the counter, it was still cheaper to get 
it
with prescription.


KK

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The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes...

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Re: [QUAD-L] Best ER in Phoenix?

[Dan]

How about in the Boston, MA area?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good Samaritan Medical Center   at  
E Mcdowell Rd, Phoenix - (602) 239-2000 has the 'reputation' of being 
the primary SCI hospital in Phoenix. 
i went there once in 1975 or so to talk to someone who had an SCI - a 
pep-talk as i remember.
 
Barrows is also a good place to contact...



*Barrow* Neurological Institute (BNI) 

*Barrow* Quarterly is the official journal of the *Barrow* 
Neurological Institute of St. Joseph's *Hospital* and Medical Center, 
*Phoenix*, Arizona. *...*
http://www.thebarrow.org/intradoc-cgi/idc_cgi_isapi.dll?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=5012151 


Dave
 
 
 

 
In a message dated 10/27/2007 8:18:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Since I moved to AZ I have not had any real medical issues that
called for me to be admitted.

Until this week.

My local hospital is nice and they do all my x-rays, labs, etc.,
but they are not real quad savvy.

If I have to go into the ER again, I think I’ll go up into
Phoenix, but what hospital???

There is a number of them with different branched.

 


For you Phoenix Quads, what is the best Spinal Cord Injury Hospital?

I assume it is St Joseph’s Hospital and Medical Center, at 7^th
and Thomas?

 


Thanks,

Greg

 





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Re: [QUAD-L] Best ER in Phoenix?

[Oconnelldb]

 
_Good  Samaritan Medical Center_ (http://www.bannerhealth.com/)   at  E 
Mcdowell Rd, Phoenix -  E Mcdowell Rd, Phoenix - (602) 239-2000 has 
the 'reputation'  of being   
i went there once in 1975 or so to talk to someone who  had an SCI - a 
pep-talk as i rem

 
Barrows is also a good place to contact...
 
_Barrow Neurological Institute  (BNI)_ (http://www.thebni.com/) 
Barrow Quarterly is the official journal of the  Barrow Neurological 
Institute of St. Joseph's Hospital and  Medical Center, Phoenix, Arizona. ...
_http://www.thebarrow.org/intradoc-cgi/idc_cgi_isapi.dll?IdcService=SS_GET_PAG
E&nodeId=5012151_ 
(http://www.thebarrow.org/intradoc-cgi/idc_cgi_isapi.dll?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=5012151)
 
Dave
 
 
 

 
In a message dated 10/27/2007 8:18:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
Since I moved to AZ I have not had  any real medical issues that called for 
me to be  admitted. 
Until this  week. 
My local hospital is nice and they  do all my x-rays, labs, etc., but they 
are not real quad  savvy. 
If I have to go into the ER again,  I think I’ll go up into Phoenix, but what 
 hospital??? 
There is a number of them with  different branched.  
For you Phoenix Quads, what is the  best Spinal Cord Injury Hospital? 
I assume it is St Joseph’s Hospital and Medical Center, at 7th and  Thomas? 
Thanks, 
Greg


 



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Re: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters

[Dan]

I was told to change my SP every 3 weeks. 2 months seems like an awfully 
long time.


Dan

David K. Kelmer wrote:

Hi John,
 
I've been around too long for that mistake.  I'm talking about TWO 
different procedures.  Vinegar flushes my catheter, and bleach flushes 
my reusable leg-bag *after* I take it off. 
 
I change my catheter once every two months.  Thanks for the info.  
Stay Strong.
 
With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave

C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
Texas, USA 



*/"John S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

Dave,
DO NOT FLUSH YOUR BLADDER WITH BLEACH! Because of bleaches
toxicity as an internally used chemical, I was inspired to write
the thread a few weeks ago asking if any of you prevent urine from
the bed bag tube from running back into your bladder. A local
nursing home cleans the bed bags with bleach and water then
reattaches it to the SP catheter. Everyone in the home has awful
and persistant infections while taking assorted anti biotics
daily. I personally called the doctors of record about 2 patients
that were showing signs of fatal reactions to macrodantin. (I'm
amazed nurses are so afraid of doctors that they won't do such
things.)
Maybe its in the hippa rules not do anything to save Med/Med patients.
So, here is a new trick to try if you have an SP catheter. Attach
a small leg bag to your catheter and leave it there. Do Not
disconect it. When transferring bed bags and other leg bags,
simply attach them to the drain side of the permanent leg bag.
Goal: Adding an extra barrier to germs and chemicals and reducing
infections.
 
My big question is, why do you flush your bladders? Don't you

change your catheter once a month?
Even when folks say they use sterile techniques with replacement
of catheters, there are new bacteria introduced. If you are as
incredibly sterile about your technique, the best you can achieve
is to be clean.
 
good luck and best wishes,

john

- Original Message 
From: David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 2:55:23 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters

Hi Eric,
 
How do you open your tube?  Do you also flush the leg/bedside bags

with a vinegar mix, too?  I flush out my tubing and bags with a
10/1 bleach/water mix, and then throughly dry and reusable bag parts.
 
With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave

C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
Texas, USA 



*/Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

correct
 
 
Eric W Rudd

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 


-Original Message-
*From:* Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:00 PM
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
quad-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or
suprapubic catheters

Ericfor the mix with water, You use the White
Vinegar-Correct?Dan

*/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

In a message dated 10/26/2007 7:52:20 PM Eastern
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yep...i use to get sterile h2o from pharmacy then
they said they could no
longer do it so was getting it online.  Then they
said they couldn't so I
had no choice...thought, u know, if my cath is
clogged, we don't take the
time to use sterile h2o, so, lets try it.  Have
been using tap h2o & vinegar
everyday...no problems & clear cath.

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: KK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:28 PM
To: Eric W Rudd; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or
suprapubic catheters


Eric - tap water?  Our water has all sorts of
"stuff" in it.  I only use
sterile water & only when I have started passing
clots.

what is wrong with distilled water? about 70 cents a
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RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs

[Dan]

Do you mean elevating leg rests? If so, manual or electric? Or are you talking 
about 'Tilt in Space' seating?

Dan

At 10:55 PM 10/27/2007 -0500, Eric W Rudd said something that elicited my 
response:
  
>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> 
>where the legs extend
> 
> 
>Eric W Rudd
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   
>-Original Message- 
>From: Ms Linda Ferrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:53 PM 
>To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
>
>What are leg controls? 
>Lindaf 
>- Original Message - 
>From: Eric W Rudd 
>To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:33 PM 
>Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
>
>That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon. 
>  
>  
>Eric W Rudd 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  
>-Original Message- 
>From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM 
>To: John S.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
>quad-list@eskimo.com 
>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
>
>My Quatum Pride 6000 ( 
>http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html
> ) is a good chair.  Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg 
>controls.  They really help keep me up on the seat.   
>  
>With Love, 
>  
>CtrlAltDel aka Dave 
>C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post 
>Texas, USA 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

[Dan]

Has anyone tried Miralax?

Dan


At 11:47 PM 10/27/2007 -0700, Paul Jacobson said something that elicited my 
response:
  
>Hello folks,
> 
>Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6 
>43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year, my 
>BP has become less than routine.
> 
>I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 
>an hour.all done.
> 
>Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.  
>Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where I do 
>range of motion and another suppository or two.  That works...but it 
>takes another hour or so.
> 
>Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.
> 
>Thanks so much for your help!
> 
>Paul
>San Diego, CA.

Re: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters

[theomen723]

I keep a leg bag connected to my catheter day and night.? When I'm in bed I 
don't leave it attached to my leg, I just lay it on the bed next to me.? I've 
done this for several years now and haven't really had a problem.? I used to 
have trouble with bags slipping off the catheter but since I started using 
Mentor's Alpine LegBag I haven't had any more problems.? I change my bag once a 
month and my catheter every six weeks.? 

The key to not getting infections with an indwelling is to drink lots of 
water.? Keeping your system flushed is essential.? I have never in my 7yrs of 
quad life heard of flushing the bladder with vinegar or any other type of 
fluid.? I know it's hard to drink when you're not thirsty, but it's important 
to have a high intake of water...water...water.? (Not soda--caffeine takes 
calcium out of your body making your urine cloudy and increasing your risk of 
osteoporosis)? I drink about 7 or 8 700ml bottles of water a day.? 

Luke


-Original Message-
From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters




Dave,

DO NOT FLUSH YOUR BLADDER WITH BLEACH! Because of bleaches toxicity as an 
internally used chemical, I was inspired to write the thread a few weeks ago 
asking if any of you prevent urine from the bed bag tube from running back into 
your bladder. A local nursing home cleans the bed bags with bleach and water 
then reattaches it to the SP catheter. Everyone in the home has awful and 
persistant infections while taking assorted anti biotics daily. I personally 
called the doctors of record about 2 patients that were showing signs of fatal 
reactions to macrodantin. (I'm amazed nurses are so afraid of doctors that they 
won't do such things.) 

Maybe its in the hippa rules not do anything to save Med/Med patients.

So, here is a new trick to try if you have an SP catheter. Attach a small leg 
bag to your catheter and leave it there. Do Not disconect it. When transferring 
bed bags and other leg bags, simply attach them to the drain side of the 
permanent leg bag.

Goal: Adding an extra barrier to germs and chemicals and reducing infections.

?

My big question is, why do you flush your bladders? Don't you change your 
catheter once a month? 

Even when folks say they use sterile techniques with replacement of catheters, 
there are new bacteria introduced. If you are as incredibly sterile about your 
technique, the best you can achieve is to be clean. 

?

good luck and best wishes,

john



- Original Message 
From: David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 2:55:23 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters


Hi Eric,

?

How do you open your tube?? Do you also flush the leg/bedside bags with a 
vinegar mix, too?? I flush out my tubing and bags with a 10/1 bleach/water mix, 
and then throughly dry and reusable bag parts.

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With Love,
?
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete -?31 Years Post

Texas, USA?




Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



correct

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Eric W Rudd

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From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters


Ericfor the mix with water, You use the White 
Vinegar-Correct Dan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


In a message dated 10/26/2007 7:52:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:

Yep...i use to get sterile h2o from pharmacy then they said they could no
longer do it so was getting it online.? Then they said they couldn't so I
had no choice...thought, u know, if my cath is clogged, we don't take the
time to use sterile h2o, so, lets try it.? Have been using tap h2o & vinegar
everyday...no problems & clear cath.

Eric W Rudd
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:28 PM
To: Eric W Rudd; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters


Eric - tap water?? Our water has all sorts of "stuff" in it.? I only use
sterile water & only when I have started passing clots.




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Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs

[andrea murray]

Hi, Will I'm still waiting for my new wheelchair from VR. I had a OT out here 
two months ago and he told me that I would get it at the begining of next year. 
Happy New Years!!!
Wheelchair Warrior

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From: Bill Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quad List 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:57:34 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs


I hate to contradict you, Wheel, but any licensed physician can write the 
prescription if the OT or PT writes the letter of evaluation and medical 
necessity well enough.  I got my letter from an OT in Feb. '07, my prescription 
from my doctor's PA in Mar. '07 and my chair was delivered April 13, '07.  IMO 
the DME provider makes all the difference by double-checking everything; making 
sure every "i" is dotted, every "t" is crossed and everything is coded 
properly.  I chose the Quantum 600 and it's been great.  I liked the center 
wheel drive because both my legs are anputated above-the-knee making my 
weight/balance cause a rear-wheel drive tip easily.  It also had the best 
options for me: Roho high-profile Quatro cushion, tilt, recline, etc.
 
Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs


You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more 
difficult today than it was just 5 years ago.  Especially if CMS is paying for 
that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to 
see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. 
 The
evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME.  The DME will 
then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit 
those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the 
perfect chair.  Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no.  
Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and 
submitted.
 
The process could take 6 months to a year.  Maybe longer.  Sometimes shorter.
Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/27/2007 12:29:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have 
invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own 
wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years 
old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of 
wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and 
batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the 
chairs shall last 7 years!
 
My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices 
where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid)
 
Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience?
john
 






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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

[theomen723]

I always eat fruit and drink plenty of water and in about 30min I'm done.

Luke


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Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 1:47 am
Subject: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION



Hello folks,

?

Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.? I'm a complete c5/6 

43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.? Over the last year, my 

BP has become less than routine.

?

I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 

an hour.all done.

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Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.? 

Then I take a shower..still no results.? Then back to bed where I do 

range of motion and another suppository or two.? That works...but it 

takes another hour or so.

?

Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.

?

Thanks so much for your help!

?

Paul

San Diego, CA.



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Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs

[wheelchair]

 
I 'm sure that you will enjoy your new chair once you receive it.   This 
industry as a whole is downsizing because the Gov Paid Equpment, is a  fraction 
of 
what it was in previous years.  Some employees have moved on to  other jobs 
and those who remained are often working for two, to keep the  industry moving.
Granted, CMS is saving lots of money, but the true disabled population is  
not getting what they once did.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/28/2007 8:17:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I’m  expecting a new TDX3 any day now, I swear medicade approved the chair 
the  first time.  I started the process in July so its took about 4 months, it  
would have been sooner but my Drs.  Secretary didn’t fax the paper  work.  We 
just so happened to call and check on the progress and Holland  medical hadn’t 
received the needed paper work, so that slowed the order about  4 weeks.  What
’s wrong with these medical equipment companies, you would  think they would 
have called to see what was going on.  Hell they don’t  give a flip about you, 
my old Invacare was down so if I hadn’t had my extreme  I would be stuck in 
bed.  I hope I like the TDX anybody have any  complaints with theirs?  Silas  






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RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs

[Silas Shelburne]

I'm expecting a new TDX3 any day now, I swear medicade approved the chair
the first time.  I started the process in July so its took about 4 months,
it would have been sooner but my Drs.  Secretary didn't fax the paper work.
We just so happened to call and check on the progress and Holland medical
hadn't received the needed paper work, so that slowed the order about 4
weeks.  What's wrong with these medical equipment companies, you would think
they would have called to see what was going on.  Hell they don't give a
flip about you, my old Invacare was down so if I hadn't had my extreme I
would be stuck in bed.  I hope I like the TDX anybody have any complaints
with theirs?  Silas 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs

 

You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more
difficult today than it was just 5 years ago.  Especially if CMS is paying
for that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab
medicine, to see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based
on medical needs.  The

evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME.  The DME
will then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and
submit those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for
the perfect chair.  Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no.
Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded
and submitted.

 

The process could take 6 months to a year.  Maybe longer.  Sometimes
shorter.

Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs.

 

Best Wishes

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 10/27/2007 12:29:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have
invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own
wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years
old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of
wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and
batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated
the chairs shall last 7 years!

 

My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices
where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid)

 

Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience?

john

 





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