Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Eric Olson]

  
  
What's Norco?

On 11/26/2015 5:08 PM, Ed Tessier
  wrote:


  
  
  
  

  

  

  

  

  
 

  

  

  
  

  

  

  

  

  Hey guys,


My worst post injury pain
  management problem has been
  chronic urethra pain. It can
  be a constant slicing/burning
  sensation, comparable to what
  some people get during urinary
  tract infections. My symptoms
  started after years of passing
  kidney stones and procedures
  for kidney stones. The best
  guest of my urologist is that
  all lead to nerve damage that
  drives the pain. Why is it
  when complete quads have
  sensation below the injury
  level it's never pleasure?!


The pain became so bad it
  was really shutting down the
  rest of my life and got me
  thinking of suicide when my
  actual accident and paralysis
  did not. so we tried
  absolutely everything both
  traditional and alternative
  medicines. Nothing seemed to
  work, even massive amounts of
  morphine. By keeping a very
  detailed pain diary, I did
  discover that Neurontin
sometimes helped reduce the
severity of my pain
episodes, by about a third,
though not their frequency.
That still wasn't enough to
give me my life back, but I
have taken it regularly ever
since. a couple of years ago
I tried to see if I could
stop it, but I quickly had
pain flareups and so went
back to it.

  
I
stumbled on my current
solution by accident. I was
briefly treated for some
severe spasticity after
taking a spill out of my
wheelchair. My old school
doctor prescribed an
old-school anti-spasmodic,
Soma. At the same time, my
neurologist had me
 temporarily back on Norco
(according to my tracking it
might have reduced pain
experienced by 5 to 10%
under some conditions) while
  

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Ed Tessier]

Hey guys,

My worst post injury pain management problem has been chronic urethra pain.
It can be a constant slicing/burning sensation, comparable to what some
people get during urinary tract infections. My symptoms started after years
of passing kidney stones and procedures for kidney stones. The best guest
of my urologist is that all lead to nerve damage that drives the pain. Why
is it when complete quads have sensation below the injury level it's never
pleasure?!

The pain became so bad it was really shutting down the rest of my life and
got me thinking of suicide when my actual accident and paralysis did not.
so we tried absolutely everything both traditional and alternative
medicines. Nothing seemed to work, even massive amounts of morphine. By
keeping a very detailed pain diary, I did discover that Neurontin sometimes
helped reduce the severity of my pain episodes, by about a third, though
not their frequency. That still wasn't enough to give me my life
back, but I have taken it regularly ever since. a couple of years ago I
tried to see if I could stop it, but I quickly had pain flareups and so
went back to it.

I stumbled on my current solution by accident. I was briefly treated for
some severe spasticity after taking a spill out of my wheelchair. My old
school doctor prescribed an old-school anti-spasmodic, Soma. At the
same time, my neurologist had me  temporarily back on Norco (according to
my tracking it might have reduced pain experienced by 5 to 10% under some
conditions) while trying to figure out what else we could try. The un
planned cocktail of the two, while not contraindicated, had an amazing
effect on my pain. During mild to moderate episodes, it shut it down
completely, like flipping off the switch. During severe episodes of pain,
it pushed it way down so that I could be functional again.  It was the holy
Grail.

 I have tinkered with the cocktail a couple of times, in hopes that the
underlying causes might have declined over time, and when my insurance
company stopped covering Soma as part of its across-the-board campaign
against opioids. Reducing the medication and substituting similar
compounds, such as Valium instead of soma, didn't work. Meanwhile, there is
no sign of declining efficacy or addiction – – I am not taking more now
than I did five years ago.

 I doubt my cocktail would help you in your situation. The symptoms are so
different. My point is, to cautiously explore outside orthodox treatments.
Our conditions are such a tiny minority that case history simply doesn't
exist. Will my physicians ever write a paper talking about how these three
meds in concert solved a highly unusual chronic pain condition in an aging
quad? No. The applicability just isn't there for wider treatment. Each of
us is left reinventing the wheel for our own quasi-unique conditions. I
wouldn't experiment outside of a doctor's care, what I would want a doctor
that is willing to try and try and try different approaches, even Hail Mary
passes, on the chance that you can put together a novel, individualized
treatment..

 Don't give up

ed




.



Regards,

Ed Tessier - Mobile: (909) 994-5900

Jeved Management, Inc.

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Eric Olson]

  
  
Is this Wally?  About 6.5 inches.  It didn't help my current
situation either.

On 11/22/2015 8:39 AM,
  wheelch...@aol.com wrote:


  
  
  
Welcome Your Return Eric.
Welcome Back and Stay Warm.
How much snow did you finally get this weekend
 
Best Wishes
 

  In a message dated 11/21/2015 8:50:48 P.M. Central
Standard Time, whee...@wi.rr.com writes:
  Hello,
  
  My name is Eric Olson.  I am from Milwaukee.  I was a
  member of the 
  Quad-list forever until my daughter was born about 9 years
  ago.  I just 
  didn't have time after she was born.  I am a C3 Ventilator
  dependent 
  spinal cord injury.  This July 1st will be 30 years post
  injury for me.
  
  Anyway from the onset of my injury, I suffered from awful
  sensations of 
  cold in my arms.  My arms felt like they were soaking in
  ice water.  I 
  actually met someone else on the Quad-list with similar
  sensations.  I 
  think his name was Greg and he eventually moved to Arizona
  where the 
  weather would be beneficial.  I don't have that option. 
  For most of the 
  30 years, I have been injured, I have been taking a
  medication called 
  Imipramine that helped take the edge off of the horrible
  cold 
  sensations.  I recently had my second pseudo bowel
  obstruction (ileus) 
  and had my second abdominal surgery.  The doctors stopped
  the 
  Imipramine, because of concerns that it contributed to
  decreasing bowel 
  peristalsis.
  
  So now, I have to find a different medication for my cold
  sensations.  I 
  am looking for input from anybody that uses medications
  for any spinal 
  cord associated pain.  I have heard of people using
  medications like 
  Lyrica or Neurontin.  Anyone else out there get intense
  sensations of 
  cold in their arms?  I am desperate for any kind of
  relief.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Eric
  
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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[wheelchair]

Welcome Your Return Eric.
Welcome Back and Stay Warm.
How much snow did you finally get this weekend
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 11/21/2015 8:50:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
whee...@wi.rr.com writes:

Hello,

My name is Eric Olson.  I am from  Milwaukee.  I was a member of the 
Quad-list forever until my daughter  was born about 9 years ago.  I just 
didn't have time after she was  born.  I am a C3 Ventilator dependent 
spinal cord injury.  This  July 1st will be 30 years post injury for me.

Anyway from the onset of  my injury, I suffered from awful sensations of 
cold in my arms.  My  arms felt like they were soaking in ice water.  I 
actually met  someone else on the Quad-list with similar sensations.  I 
think his  name was Greg and he eventually moved to Arizona where the 
weather would  be beneficial.  I don't have that option.  For most of the 
30  years, I have been injured, I have been taking a medication called  
Imipramine that helped take the edge off of the horrible cold  
sensations.  I recently had my second pseudo bowel obstruction  (ileus) 
and had my second abdominal surgery.  The doctors stopped the  
Imipramine, because of concerns that it contributed to decreasing bowel  
peristalsis.

So now, I have to find a different medication for my  cold sensations.  I 
am looking for input from anybody that uses  medications for any spinal 
cord associated pain.  I have heard of  people using medications like 
Lyrica or Neurontin.  Anyone else out  there get intense sensations of 
cold in their arms?  I am desperate  for any kind of relief.

Thanks,

Eric

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[QUAD-L] I'm back

[Eric Olson]

Hello,

My name is Eric Olson.  I am from Milwaukee.  I was a member of the 
Quad-list forever until my daughter was born about 9 years ago.  I just 
didn't have time after she was born.  I am a C3 Ventilator dependent 
spinal cord injury.  This July 1st will be 30 years post injury for me.


Anyway from the onset of my injury, I suffered from awful sensations of 
cold in my arms.  My arms felt like they were soaking in ice water.  I 
actually met someone else on the Quad-list with similar sensations.  I 
think his name was Greg and he eventually moved to Arizona where the 
weather would be beneficial.  I don't have that option.  For most of the 
30 years, I have been injured, I have been taking a medication called 
Imipramine that helped take the edge off of the horrible cold 
sensations.  I recently had my second pseudo bowel obstruction (ileus) 
and had my second abdominal surgery.  The doctors stopped the 
Imipramine, because of concerns that it contributed to decreasing bowel 
peristalsis.


So now, I have to find a different medication for my cold sensations.  I 
am looking for input from anybody that uses medications for any spinal 
cord associated pain.  I have heard of people using medications like 
Lyrica or Neurontin.  Anyone else out there get intense sensations of 
cold in their arms?  I am desperate for any kind of relief.


Thanks,

Eric

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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Gmail]

Eric welcome back

Smile Everyday

> On Nov 21, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Eric Olson  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My name is Eric Olson.  I am from Milwaukee.  I was a member of the Quad-list 
> forever until my daughter was born about 9 years ago.  I just didn't have 
> time after she was born.  I am a C3 Ventilator dependent spinal cord injury.  
> This July 1st will be 30 years post injury for me.
> 
> Anyway from the onset of my injury, I suffered from awful sensations of cold 
> in my arms.  My arms felt like they were soaking in ice water.  I actually 
> met someone else on the Quad-list with similar sensations.  I think his name 
> was Greg and he eventually moved to Arizona where the weather would be 
> beneficial.  I don't have that option.  For most of the 30 years, I have been 
> injured, I have been taking a medication called Imipramine that helped take 
> the edge off of the horrible cold sensations.  I recently had my second 
> pseudo bowel obstruction (ileus) and had my second abdominal surgery.  The 
> doctors stopped the Imipramine, because of concerns that it contributed to 
> decreasing bowel peristalsis.
> 
> So now, I have to find a different medication for my cold sensations.  I am 
> looking for input from anybody that uses medications for any spinal cord 
> associated pain.  I have heard of people using medications like Lyrica or 
> Neurontin.  Anyone else out there get intense sensations of cold in their 
> arms?  I am desperate for any kind of relief.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Eric
> 
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[QUAD-L] I'm back!

[Danny Espinoza]

Awesome! I can send email to the list again!

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back!

[wheelchair]

Yes you can.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 6/14/2013 10:14:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
da...@immortaldesigns.co writes:

Awesome! I can send email to the list  again!

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[John S.]

Right, gone this long and no good gossip or healing techs? C'mon, I'm dying to 
hear what your into these days.

Glad your back, 
john 




From: Nichole Rohling zoocr...@windstream.net
To: Quadlist quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:43:27 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm back

 
Hello everyone! It's been awhile since I've been an 
active member, hope everyone is doing great.
 
Nichole
c5/6


  

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Daniel Espinosa]

Nichole Rohling wrote:
Hello everyone! It's been awhile since I've been an active member, 
hope everyone is doing great.
 
Nichole

c5/6

welcome back

[QUAD-L] I'm back

[Nichole Rohling]

Hello everyone! It's been awhile since I've been an active member, hope 
everyone is doing great.

Nichole
c5/6

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Dan]

I Nichole,

Welcome back.

Dan

At 05:43 PM 9/20/2009, Nichole Rohling said something that elicited 
my response:


Hello everyone! It's been awhile since I've been an active member, 
hope everyone is doing great.


Nichole
c5/6

RE: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Steve Oldaker]

Hi Nichole,

 

Glad you're back. Hope you are doing well.

 

Steve - C4, 21 years

 

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:43 PM
To: Quadlist
Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm back

 

Hello everyone! It's been awhile since I've been an active member, hope
everyone is doing great.

 

Nichole

c5/6

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[wheelchair]

Wow that was a long vacation.  Hope you enjoyed every minute of it  too!
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 9/20/2009 4:43:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

Hello everyone! It's been awhile since I've been  an active member, hope 
everyone is doing great.
 
Nichole
c5/6

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Nichole Rohling]

lol.it was! i'd like to say i've been traveling but life has just been 
busy busy busy! i've missed being an active member so i'm going to try to make 
time!!

nichole
c5/6 11 years
  - Original Message - 
  From: wheelch...@aol.com 
  To: zoocr...@windstream.net ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back


  Wow that was a long vacation.  Hope you enjoyed every minute of it too!
  Best Wishes

  In a message dated 9/20/2009 4:43:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:
Hello everyone! It's been awhile since I've been an active member, hope 
everyone is doing great.

Nichole
c5/6

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back : ) ~

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Bobbie,I hate when someone in the medical field shows no concern for the person they are supposedly caring for. It shows so much of the 'real person' doing the care. Anyway, welcome back to Pete, you, and your BUTT! :)With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi All,   Only three weeks in bed. It should have been two but when I went to see my wound care Doctor, she ripped the tape off my butt really fast and with it took off the first layer of my skin on my butt! Was I upset? Pete  I were teaming mad, I wanted to run over her toes and say "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't mean to do that" Just like she said to me when she carelessly ripped off the tape on my butt.   Bobbie

RE: [QUAD-L] I'm back : ) ~

[RollinOn]

Welcome back Bobbie!
Sorry about the careless nurse I know it was hard not to just bull doze her over.


Mark Jackson



- Original Message - 
From: 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 11/4/2006 4:20:58 PM 
Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm back : ) ~

Hi All,
 Only three weeks in bed. It should have been two but when I went to see my wound care Doctor, she ripped the tape off my butt really fast and with it took off the first layer of my skin on my butt! Was I upset? Pete  I were teaming mad, I wanted to run over her toes and say "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't mean to do that" Just like she said to me when she carelessly ripped off the tape on my butt.
 Bobbie

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back : ) ~

[StubanRN]

Mark, I believe it was a doctor not a nurse who pulled Bobbie's skin off. 
Give the blame to the right knucklehead. 
Sandy 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back : ) ~

[RollinOn]

Even worse than a nurse doing it.


Mark Jackson



- Original Message - 
From: 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 11/6/2006 1:21:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back : ) ~

Mark, I believe it was a doctor not a nurse who pulled Bobbie's skin off. Give the blame to the right knucklehead. 
Sandy 

[QUAD-L] I'm back : ) ~

[Bobbie299]

Hi All,
 Only three weeks in bed. It should have been two but when I went to see my wound care Doctor, she ripped the tape off my butt really fast and with it took off the first layer of my skin on my butt! Was I upset? Pete  I were teaming mad, I wanted to run over her toes and say "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't mean to do that" Just like she said to me when she carelessly ripped off the tape on my butt.
 Bobbie

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back : ) ~

[LadyOnWheels725]

Hi Bobbie,
Glad you are back and able to enjoy 
freedom again. 

Kathy

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back ~~ Let's have a party!

[~LittleQuad~]

chips  salsa!!! wb[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi all,   I was really really sick for a while there then my mother in-law passed away. But now I'm back baby! Let's have a party so I can catch up and see everybody. I'll bring a keg of Amstel  frosted mugs. What is everybody else bringing?   Bobbie : )-

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back ~~ Let's have a party!

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Bobbie,I'm sorry to hear about your mother-in-law and that you were sick, but am glad you're back and ready to party! I'll bring enough cheese nachos to last through a keg. Party on!With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi all, 
  I was really really sick for a while there then my mother in-law passed away. But now I'm back baby! Let's have a party so I can catch up and see everybody. I'll bring a keg of Amstel  frosted mugs. What is everybody else bringing?   Bobbie : )-

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back ~~ Let's have a party!

[Tim Thompson]

OK,
Glad you're in a great mood..
I'm a little late replying, and will be limiting my replies for about another week.
Who's springing for airfare?
I'll bring the Rum and a case of sliders.
Stunt
On 9/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,
 I was really really sick for a while there then my mother in-law passed away. But now I'm back baby! Let's have a party so I can catch up and see everybody. I'll bring a keg of Amstel  frosted mugs. What is everybody else bringing?

 Bobbie : )-

[QUAD-L] I'm back ~~ Let's have a party!

[Bobbie299]

Hi all,
 I was really really sick for a while there then my mother in-law passed away. But now I'm back baby! Let's have a party so I can catch up and see everybody. I'll bring a keg of Amstel  frosted mugs. What is everybody else bringing?
 Bobbie : )-

[QUAD-L] I'm back ~~ Let's have a party!

[wheelchair]

A party ain't a party with Jack and Mike, my friends. (jack daniels and 
mike's lemonaide)
I'm bring fried potato skins stuffed with cheddar, mushrooms and 
peppers. A couple of bags of chips won't hurt either. (does anyone still 
like fresh spinach?)
W




In a message dated 9/23/2006 4:51:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi all,
   I was really really sick for a while there 
  then my mother in-law passed away. But now I'm back baby! Let's have a party 
  so I can catch up and see everybody. I'll bring a keg of Amstel  frosted 
  mugs. What is everybody else bringing?
   Bobbie : )-

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Stacy Harim]

Welcome back with us Houston, I hope things are going better with 
you.

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[QuadPirate]

Welcome Back Houston!
Good tosee you posting.

Mark

---Original Message---


From: Houston809
Date: 08/12/05 18:51:13
To: quadlist
Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm back

Had been going thru some things l8ly. But things coming back 2gether. :) I
just deleted all the emails I had over 2500 :( wasn't going 2 even try 2
read them :) just delete delete delete :)
Hope every1 has been doing aight :) have I missed anything of importance?
Houston

.

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[wheelchair]

Welcome Back Houston !  Hope that your bowels are clean and your head is 
clear'd.
You were sorely missed on the boards and missed so much.
Again, welcome back!
W

In a message dated 8/12/05 6:51:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Had been going thru some things l8ly. But things coming back 2gether. :) I
just deleted all the emails I had over 2500 :( wasn't going 2 even try 2
read them :) just delete delete delete :)
Hope every1 has been doing aight :) have I missed anything of importance?
Houston  

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Quietstream25322]

 Welcome Back Houston.someone thought you were kidnapped to 
Mars Lol...I figured not Mars..if anything just a space shuttle 
trip or something. ;-)
 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back



Thnx... Better than some might think :)

On 8/12/05 8:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good to see u back, Houston! Hope all is well?

john

In a message dated 8/12/2005 7:51:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Had been going thru some things l8ly. But things coming back 2gether. :) I
just deleted all the emails I had over 2500 :( wasn't going 2 even try 2
read them :) just delete delete delete :)
Hope every1 has been doing aight :) have I missed anything of importance?
Houston 
 

[QUAD-L] I'm back

[Houston809]

Had been going thru some things l8ly. But things coming back 2gether. :) I
just deleted all the emails I had over 2500 :( wasn't going 2 even try 2
read them :) just delete delete delete :)
Hope every1 has been doing aight :) have I missed anything of importance?
Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[DeLiMiTeD4]

Good to see u back, Houston! Hope all is well?

john

In a message dated 8/12/2005 7:51:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Had been 
  going thru some things l8ly. But things coming back 2gether. :) Ijust 
  deleted all the emails I had over 2500 :( wasn't going 2 even try 2read 
  them :) just delete delete delete :)Hope every1 has been doing aight :) 
  have I missed anything of importance?Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[andrea murray]

Houston, It good to see you back. No you didn't miss any thing lmportance. Your get back in into the swing. We missed you. Wheelchair WarriorHouston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Had been going thru some things l8ly. But things coming back 2gether. :) Ijust deleted all the emails I had over 2500 :( wasn't going 2 even try 2read them :) just delete delete delete :)Hope every1 has been doing aight :) have I missed anything of importance?Houston 
		 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back!

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Smurf,

Great to have you back. A tea-bag on the stitches will help them feel better. :)

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey guys,

I'm back! Thanks for all your good luck emails, I really needed your support so.

The surgery itself went well, the wisdom tooth was sucessfully removed which was the main thing.Once they took the tooth out they found that it was bad tooth so it was no wonder it went so easily - it was deformed, at an angle and half growing on a bit at the back of my mouth. The tooth next to it they was able to basically sand down as it wasn't that bad, and my gum was given quite a few stitches (which I managed to knock out hours afterwards.doh!)

Only prob was, where the tooth had grown bad anyway, the root of the tooth was pratically sitting on one of the nerves at the bottom of my jaw, which unavoidably got damaged whilst taking the tooth out so I've now got numbness on my cheek, tip of tongue and corner of lip which they said is going to be temporary, but not to sure weather that's true or not.

Take care all!

Love Smurf xxx

[QUAD-L] I'm back!

[Smurfonwheels]

Hey guys,

I'm back! Thanks for all your good luck emails, I really needed your 
support 
so.

The surgery itself went well, the wisdom tooth was sucessfully removed 
which was the main thing.Once they took the tooth out they found that it 
was bad tooth so it was no wonder it went so easily - it was deformed, at an 
angle and half growing on a bit at the back of my mouth. The tooth next to 
it they was able to basically sand down as it wasn't that bad, and my gum was 
given quite a few stitches (which I managed to knock out hours 
afterwards.doh!)

Only prob was, where the tooth had grown bad anyway, the root of the tooth 
was pratically sitting on one of the nerves at the bottom of my jaw, which 
unavoidably got damaged whilst taking the tooth out so I've now got numbness on 
my cheek, tip of tongue and corner of lip which they said is going to be 
temporary, but not to sure weather that's true or not.

Take care all!

Love Smurf xxx

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back



Yeah my next power chair gonna be Quickie 4sho
BBQ lets shoot 4 mid Aug. ask Andrea whats good


On 7/6/05 6:29 PM, Stuntman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Welcome back,
 Hope my refusal to join the Politically Correct bunch wasn't causing 
 you nausia. My opinions are just that, opinions. Although most often 
 based on application of critical thinking and common sense they are 
 seldom sensative to other peoples feelings.
 Just not my style.
 I like to shake things up.
 
 Yep, I like my new Quikie. It'll really take a beating and this new one 
 with tilt in place and optional front suspension castors rides smooth 
 down the sidewalk cracks. I have a good guy up at Hines VA that repairs 
 all the Vets chairs who swears by Quikies. They scrap a couple 
 Invacares every week after stripping off any usable parts. 
 My old Quickie lasted 8 years (I still have it as a spare thanks to my 
 buddy, they stopped making the exact model, P-200, which was very 
 sturdy but a rough noisy ride) and only required new arm pads, tires, 
 and 3 sets of batteries over the years.
 
 We need to figure out a good weekend for another BBQ.
 Stunt
 
 Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few 
 others
 on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you 
 and
 rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every 
 family has
 problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in 
 the
 shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. 
 I know
 a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a 
 coin. :)
 Houston 
 
 
 

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[wheelchair]

In a message dated 7/10/05 9:02:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Any weekend will be ok with me for the BBQ. Just let me know Tim. Houston 
can you get a ride for you and Linda F to Tims? Wheelchair Warrior 

Warrior has a special this week, cleaning up computers.  Want your emails 
cleaned.
Warrior does it all, lol
W

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Houston809]

She said I missed a helluva a party :)

On 7/10/05 8:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrea spent the weekend in Valpo with LindaF, Paul and Ken.  Pizza party on
 Friday
 Night.  Warrior tried to call Houston's number but was informed that it was
 disconnected or changed to unlisted.
 W
 
 In a message dated 7/10/05 5:21:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Yeah my next power chair gonna be Quickie 4sho
 BBQ lets shoot 4 mid Aug. ask Andrea whats good
 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back



Thnx Capt Dave

On 7/7/05 3:33 PM, David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Houston,

I'm glad you took your good advice and decided to come back home! I'm sure the rest of the family will be glad to have you back with us. Welcome back! :) 

With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 29 Years Post
Texas, USA 

Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)
Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Houston,

I'm glad you took your good advice and decided to come back home! I'm sure the rest of the "family" will be glad to have you back with us. Welcome back! :) 

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Wheels,

I was reading your post andit reminded meofthis Site I'd seen,and thought I'd share it with the List.

http://www.scottstratten.com/movie.html

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Welcome Back Ole Houston. You were missed. Warrior got some bad news about herhealth, but is hoping to hook up with LindaF for the weekend.Our son #2 has been competing in the Regional Idol Contest (karaoke contest) for the last 10 weeks. It was also a fund raiser for the Indiana Multiple Sclerosis Society. He made it to the finals and lost to a fantastic singer from Salk Village, IL. Her lastsong was by A. Keyes. The Post-Tribune, Times and Channel 56 gave all the press to him, lol, so he did well.Again, life is too short to hide from history and life itself. If you don't show your head daily, people will think that your buried.WIn a message dated 7/5/05 3:45:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few otherson this list I truly miss. So af!
 ter some
 urging from several of you andrereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family hasproblems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in theshadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I knowa lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi WW,I hope you get to see her...five years is way too long not to see a friend! :)

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA andrea murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Houston, 
It's about time we heard from you. Don't stay away! I'm going to see Linda f this weekend. It will be 5 years since I saw her. 
Wheelchair WarriorHouston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you LoriOn 7/5/05 7:04 PM, "Lori Michaelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there weren't two sides to a coin we'd have a, um, well a one-sided ruthless coin! In fact, if there WERE no OTHERside of anything we'd be in a sorry state. We'll probably never know if there is another side to the universe or is thatstatement impossible? Are we expanding or getting smaller? --- That could go for the human mind as well!Now that I've totally confused myself -- It's a pain to read the archives at times ... welcome back!Lori---Original Message---Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignor!
 ! e them
 and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)Houston 


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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[wheelchair]

Houston,
Your browser is outdated and needs updating or replacement.  Explorer, is 
just one of the many different browsers available for free download.
W

In a message dated 7/5/05 7:35:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thnx Mark 

I still want 2 join your list on your site as I said was having problems.

Maybe its my operating system when I go 2 your site there are green lines

down the page. Wally sent me a link that did get me directly 2 the chat

room. So I1m sure he can do that again  I can catch the next chat session.

Houston  

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[QuadPirate]

Hey Houston,
You use aMac and that mightbe the causefor the lines.
We've been meeting around 2:00 cst time on Saturdays so see you there.

Mark

---Original Message---


From: Houston809
Date: 07/05/05 19:34:53
To: QuadPirate; quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back
Thnx Mark I still want 2 join your list on your site as I said was having problems. Maybe its my operating system when I go 2 your site there are green lines down the page. Wally sent me a link that did get me directly 2 the chat room. So I’m sure he can do that again  I can catch the next chat session. Houston On 7/5/05 5:00 PM, "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Welcome Back Houston,BTW Jim booted the 1 I think P.O'ed you her last post was way out of line and I applaud him for that.I was ready to leave myself because I couldn't believe what I was reading it was ignorant and uncalled for.Welcome back,Mark ---Original Message---From: Houston809 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07/05/05 15:45:31To: quadlist mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm backAndrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)Houston  http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=409amp;lang=9 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back



Andrea,
Well I decided 2 come back. Missed U :) missed Wallys knowledge :) missed Mark, Capt. Dave, and several others
Have fyn in Valpo


On 7/5/05 8:24 PM, andrea murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Houston, 
It's about time we heard from you. Don't stay away! I'm going to see Linda f this weekend. It will be 5 years since I saw her. 
Wheelchair Warrior
Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Lori

On 7/5/05 7:04 PM, Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If there weren't two sides to a coin we'd have a, um, well a one-sided ruthless coin! In fact, if there WERE no OTHER
side of anything we'd be in a sorry state. We'll probably never know if there is another side to the universe or is that
statement impossible? Are we expanding or getting smaller? --- That could go for the human mind as well!

Now that I've totally confused myself -- It's a pain to read the archives at times ... welcome back!

Lori

---Original Message---
 
Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)
Houston 




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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Stuntman]

Welcome back,
Hope my refusal to join the Politically Correct bunch wasn't causing 
you nausia. My opinions are just that, opinions. Although most often 
based on application of critical thinking and common sense they are 
seldom sensative to other peoples feelings.
Just not my style.
I like to shake things up.

Yep, I like my new Quikie. It'll really take a beating and this new one 
with tilt in place and optional front suspension castors rides smooth 
down the sidewalk cracks. I have a good guy up at Hines VA that repairs 
all the Vets chairs who swears by Quikies. They scrap a couple 
Invacares every week after stripping off any usable parts. 
My old Quickie lasted 8 years (I still have it as a spare thanks to my 
buddy, they stopped making the exact model, P-200, which was very 
sturdy but a rough noisy ride) and only required new arm pads, tires, 
and 3 sets of batteries over the years.

We need to figure out a good weekend for another BBQ.
Stunt
 
 Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few 
others
 on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you  
and
 rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every 
family has
 problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in 
the
 shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. 
I know
 a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a 
coin. :)
 Houston 
 
 
 

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[QUAD-L] I'm back

[Houston809]

Title: I'm back



Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)
Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[DeLiMiTeD4]

It is great to see you back. I'll try to be nice.

john

In a message dated 7/5/2005 4:45:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair 
  Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. 
  So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the 
  emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can 
  see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial 
  issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't 
  appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back/ no offence

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back/ no offence 



Thnx John :) Im sensitive :) But it wasnt that anyone was mean I was frustrated by the comments on certain controversial topics at the time. That were being posted and the length of time that the topic carried on. I know that we cant talk SCI issues all the time that would burn me out. I was a barber prior 2 my injury and 2 things not discussed in the shop were POLITICS  RELIGION every once in a while we would discuss these things. But knew when to stop, because I didnt want to offend any of my clients. Couldnt lose that  
Now let me stop b4 I get something started. But as you see I truly phrased my comment so as not to offend anyone.
Houston 

On 7/5/05 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It is great to see you back. I'll try to be nice.

john 

In a message dated 7/5/2005 4:45:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)
Houston 
 

[QUAD-L] I'm back

[wheelchair]

Welcome Back Ole Houston.  You were missed.  Warrior got some bad news about 
her
health, but is hoping to hook up with LindaF for the weekend.
Our son #2  has been competing in the Regional Idol Contest (karaoke contest) 
for the last 10 weeks.  It was also a fund raiser for the Indiana Multiple 
Sclerosis Society.  He made it to the finals and lost to a fantastic singer 
from 
Salk Village, IL.  Her last
song was by A. Keyes.  The Post-Tribune, Times and Channel 56 gave all the 
press to him, lol, so he did well.
Again, life is too short to hide from history and life itself.  If you don't 
show your head daily, people will think that your buried.
W

In a message dated 7/5/05 3:45:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others
on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you  and
rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has
problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the
shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know
a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)
Houston  

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[QuadPirate]

Welcome Back Houston,
BTW Jim booted the 1I thinkP.O'ed youher last post was way out of line and I applaud him for that.
I was ready to leave myself because I couldn't believe what I was reading it was ignorant and uncalled for.

Welcome back,

Mark

---Original Message---


From: Houston809
Date: 07/05/05 15:45:31
To: quadlist
Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm back
Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Lori Michaelson]

If there weren't two sides to a coin we'd have a, um, well a one-sided ruthless coin! In fact, if there WERE no OTHER
side of anything we'd be in a sorry state. We'll probably never know if there is another side to the universe or is that
statement impossible? Are we expanding or getting smaller? --- That could go for the human mind as well!

Now that I've totally confused myself -- It's a pain to read the archives at times ... welcome back!

Lori

---Original Message---
Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back



Thank you Lori

On 7/5/05 7:04 PM, Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
If there weren't two sides to a coin we'd have a, um, well a one-sided ruthless coin! In fact, if there WERE no OTHER
side of anything we'd be in a sorry state. We'll probably never know if there is another side to the universe or is that
statement impossible? Are we expanding or getting smaller? --- That could go for the human mind as well!

Now that I've totally confused myself -- It's a pain to read the archives at times ... welcome back!

Lori

---Original Message---
 
Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignore them and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)
Houston 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[andrea murray]

Houston, 
It's about time we heard from you. Don't stay away! I'm going to see Linda f this weekend. It will be 5 years since I saw her. 
Wheelchair WarriorHouston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you LoriOn 7/5/05 7:04 PM, "Lori Michaelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there weren't two sides to a coin we'd have a, um, well a one-sided ruthless coin! In fact, if there WERE no OTHERside of anything we'd be in a sorry state. We'll probably never know if there is another side to the universe or is thatstatement impossible? Are we expanding or getting smaller? --- That could go for the human mind as well!Now that I've totally confused myself -- It's a pain to read the archives at times ... welcome back!Lori---Original Message---Andrea A.K.A. Wheelchair Warrior, Wheelie, Quadpirate, Dan and a few others on this list I truly miss. So after some urging from several of you and rereading some of the emails I decided to come back home. Every family has problems and no one can see eye to eye. So I can just either lurk in the shadows on controversial issues or just ignor!
 e them
 and delete them. I know a lot of my comments aren't appreciated so there are 2 sides to a coin. :)Houston 
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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back -- for a while?

[Ol' Man River]

Sparring is human nature here or in real life.
Bingo Lori.   If we quads didn't have a lot of spar -
spunk - fight in us, we'd all be dead by now.  Tuff to
sit back and talk quad-this and quad-that and
quad-everything when someone spurts out something that
begs for them to get a good smack.
Everyone's bp go ok today?  Any new aide problems we
can help with?  How about congress dropping the
stem-cell research ball again-still?  Any new whacks
we can deliver to them that might make a difference?
Dave


--- Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 Glad you're back too Billy.  Why I try to express
 'an opinion' here without
 it
 being quad-related is beyond me anymore.  I'll claim
 stupidity as it's
 asking for
 positive/negative opinions but it gets mean I see.
 
 But I think things should stay quad related from now
 on.
 
 I didn't know Carol got kicked off the list? 
 Doesn't sound like Jim either
 unless
 they talked off list and things went sour.  :-(  
 Usually one should get 'a
 warning'
 before being banned from a list.
 
 Sparring is human nature here or in real life.
 
 Lori
 
 ---Original Message---
  
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 06/28/05 19:22:26
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back -- for a while?
  
 Hi Billy,
 
 Glad you are back
 .
 Dana C 4-5, 30 years post, 51, suburb of Kansas City
 in Johnson County
 Kansas
  


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[QUAD-L] I'm back -- for a while?

[Quadius]

I have decided to come back to the list for a while and see what is going on. I did check-in periodically to see what discussions were taking place and which members were still active, but the tone of the arguments kept me away for a while longer. I will most likely sit back and monitor, while occasionally joining into some discussions.
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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back -- for a while?

[DAANOO]

Hi Billy,Glad you are back.Dana C 4-5, 30 years post, 51, 
suburb of Kansas City in Johnson County Kansas

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back -- for a while?

[Lori Michaelson]

Glad you're back too Billy. Why I try to express 'an opinion' here without it
being quad-related is beyond me anymore. I'll claim stupidity as it's asking for
positive/negative opinions but it gets mean I see.

But I think things should stay quad related from now on.

I didn't know Carol got kicked off the list? Doesn't sound like Jim either unless
they talked off list and things went sour. :-( Usually one should get 'a warning'
before being banned from a list.

Sparring is human nature here or in real life.

Lori

---Original Message---


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06/28/05 19:22:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back -- for a while?

Hi Billy,Glad you are back.Dana C 4-5, 30 years post, 51, suburb of Kansas City in Johnson County Kansas

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm Back, We Did. Had Great Time!

[andrea murray]

W
You should tell them about Wheelchair Warrior participation in asquare dancing. Houston had fun too. He is alive. He was at the conferences for People with Disabilities. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
In this case, we were. Had to take a person who C-bag broke while he was in his hotel bed and covered his stomach and side area, including the bed sheets. He was afraid to say anything until the next morning when he was cleaned up by one of the aides wearing gloves. He developed a NASTY RASH on his stomach and side that required a trip to the ER.See ya learn everyday. something new.WIn a message dated 11/10/04 4:29:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Wheels,And I'm sure you are wiser for the effort! Welcome back.With Love,CtrlAltDel aka Dave 
	
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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm Back, We Did. Had Great Time!

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Wheels,

I hope they learned it's better to say something right away if that ever happens again. Better to act rash than to have a rash!

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this case, we were. Had to take a person who C-bag broke while he was in his hotel bed and covered his stomach and side area, including the bed sheets. He was afraid to say anything until the next morning when he was cleaned up by one of the aides wearing gloves. He developed a NASTY RASH on his stomach and side that required a trip to the ER.See ya learn everyday. something new.WIn a message dated 11/10/04 4:29:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Wheels,And I'm sure you are wiser for the effort! Welcome back.With Love,CtrlAltDel aka Dave 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm Back, We Did. Had Great Time!

[Stuntman]

Wheel,
Stomach acids in the upper intestine have not been neutralized. The 
acid burns the skin and exposes the inner layers to some very nasty 
bacteria living in the intestinal track. The resulting infection can 
become life threatening.
To anyone out there wearing a colostomy bag, if it leaks or breaks get 
help ASAP.
Stuntman

 In this case, we were.  Had to take a person who C-bag broke while he 
was in 
 his hotel bed and covered his stomach and side area, including the 
bed sheets. 
  He was afraid to say anything until the next morning when he was 
cleaned up 
 by one of the aides wearing gloves.  He developed a NASTY RASH on his 
stomach 
 and side that required a trip to the ER.
 See ya learn everyday. something new.
 W
 
 In a message dated 11/10/04 4:29:05 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 writes:
 
  Hi Wheels,
  
 And I'm sure you are wiser for the effort!  Welcome back.
  
 With Love,
 
 CtrlAltDel aka Dave 
 
 
 

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[QUAD-L] I'm Back, We Did. Had Great Time!

[wheelchair]

Great Advice Stuntman!  This young man cleaned up, but was in pain as the 
burn got worse.  He came down to the 2nd floor and had breakfast before he 
would 
allow us to get him to the hospital.  The time between the incident was 6-8 
hours before he decided to go to the hospital.
W
In a message dated 11/11/04 3:41:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Wheel,

Stomach acids in the upper intestine have not been neutralized. The 

acid burns the skin and exposes the inner layers to some very nasty 

bacteria living in the intestinal track. The resulting infection can 

become life threatening.

To anyone out there wearing a colostomy bag, if it leaks or breaks get 

help ASAP.

Stuntman 

[QUAD-L] I'm Back, We Did. Had Great Time!

[wheelchair]

Thanks Dave. I did, its Wed morning and I'm back.
W
In a message dated 11/7/04 1:33:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Wheels,
 
Have a good time at the Indiana Gov's Conference, and give all the Quad-List 
members my best!  
 
With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm Back, We Did. Had Great Time!

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Wheels,

And I'm sure you are wiser for the effort! Welcome back.

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Dave. I did, its Wed morning and I'm back.WIn a message dated 11/7/04 1:33:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Wheels,Have a good time at the Indiana Gov's Conference, and give all the Quad-List members my best! With Love,CtrlAltDel aka Dave 

[QUAD-L] I'm Back, We Did. Had Great Time!

[wheelchair]

In this case, we were.  Had to take a person who C-bag broke while he was in 
his hotel bed and covered his stomach and side area, including the bed sheets. 
 He was afraid to say anything until the next morning when he was cleaned up 
by one of the aides wearing gloves.  He developed a NASTY RASH on his stomach 
and side that required a trip to the ER.
See ya learn everyday. something new.
W

In a message dated 11/10/04 4:29:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 Hi Wheels,
 
And I'm sure you are wiser for the effort!  Welcome back.
 
With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave 

[QUAD-L] I'm back

[Eric Olson]

Gang,
I've been away for awhile.  I didn't say anything when I left.  just 
wanted to let you know I'm back. 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[QuadPirate]

Welcome back Eric.

Mark

---Original Message---


From: Eric Olson
Date: Saturday, October 16, 2004 16:51:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm back
Gang,I've been away for awhile. I didn't say anything when I left. just wanted to let you know I'm back. . 







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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[wheelchair]

In a message dated 10/16/04 4:51:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Gang,


I've been away for awhile.  I didn't say anything when I left.  just 

wanted to let you know I'm back. 

 

Welcome Back, CheddarHead.  You were missed inspite of Greenbay's football 
season.
W