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there may be a study your eligable for, but don't get your hopes up. Functional Electrical Stimulation would be up to you and your ability to find the rehab doctor that will test you. It is probably an insurance nono. up at Write State a guy made radio implants and you pressed a button and viola. I think someone bought the invention and killed it. If you look on the web you see specialists health places, ie http://www.metrohealth.org/body.cfm?id=1039. I'm told they have had excellent results in bladder training. I've always wondered what happened to FES and biofeedback. Do you mean nobody on here even tried FES for bladder training? john From: Dan d...@unh.edu To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:37:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions I used to be able to void on my own. Then a few years ago all of a sudden I couldn't. So Urologist suggested self intermittent cathing. I can bearly move one arm and I don't have 24 hour care. So, then he suggested a Foley which I had for about a year but it gave me excruciating pain in my right hip which is the side I lean on. My Uro said he wasn't surprised as a Foley is in contact with a lot of nerves which could be the cause of the pain. That's when he suggested the Supra Pubic. I got a second opinion from a Uro at Mass General and he concurred. Dan At 07:46 PM 6/23/2009, ladyno...@aol.com said something that elicited my response: Sorry, I came in on the tail end of the conversation. Did you have a Foley catheter before your supra pubic catheter ? I have a Foley catheter and I'm thinking about getting a supra pubic. A really good friend of mine, who's a nurse, told me that my urethra will erode from sitting on it all the time. She suggested I get a supra pubic. I don't know if this is true or not. Anyone have any suggestions Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!
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When I need medical question(s) answered, I go to the experts - and that would be the Quad List. You guys are awesome. As you might remember, I have a Supra Pubic cath and use a hospital bed. Like the idiot that I am, I would lay the night time drainage bag at my feet. And here's the stupid part. I have contracture's so I sleep with two pillows under my knees and the foot of the bed cranked all the way up. Talk about trying to pee uphill! So after reading all your great advice, I now hang the bag on the side of the bed even with my Supra Pubic. The excess tubing is coiled and pinned next to my hip. I place a plastic bin on the floor under the bag. What a difference! I sleep much better and I don't wake up every morning with a bulging bladder. I know, I know, I'm an idiot. But with all the urologists I've seen you'd think one of them would tell the newbe about such things - at least hand out a pamphlet or something. Thanks again. Dan At 05:19 AM 6/9/2009, daa...@aol.com said: My aide lays mine on the floor as it would not drain hanging on the end of the bed. That seems to be the best for me. I really like the idea, laying it in a basin to prevent problems of leaking if someone forgot to not latch it securely. I sleep in a old-fashioned waterbed, which prevents any pressure and I find comfortable. Dana
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I've found most 'normal' medical people are pretty clueless as to how to handle quads. My very good friend is a retired ER RN nurse and she helped push me down a rounded curb in my manual chair by pushing on by backside with her knee when the footrests got stuck on the street. I love her dearly but I don't let her get behind me anymore.We had a heated chat about the movie of Hillary Swank getting quadized from a boxing accident and then euthenized as a solution to her predicament. I brought her to tears as she thought it was an understandable ending and I didn't. I softened after I actually saw the movie. I was partly getting back at her for the knee in the back push she gave me. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. _Dave Patty's Grandkids_ (http://ocgrands.com/) In a message dated 6/23/2009 2:27:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, d...@unh.edu writes: When I need medical question(s) answered, I go to the experts - and that would be the Quad List. You guys are awesome. As you might remember, I have a Supra Pubic cath and use a hospital bed. Like the idiot that I am, I would lay the night time drainage bag at my feet. And here's the stupid part. I have contracture's so I sleep with two pillows under my knees and the foot of the bed cranked all the way up. Talk about trying to pee uphill! So after reading all your great advice, I now hang the bag on the side of the bed even with my Supra Pubic. The excess tubing is coiled and pinned next to my hip. I place a plastic bin on the floor under the bag. What a difference! I sleep much better and I don't wake up every morning with a bulging bladder. I know, I know, I'm an idiot. But with all the urologists I've seen you'd think one of them would tell the newbe about such things - at least hand out a pamphlet or something. Thanks again. Dan At 05:19 AM 6/9/2009, daa...@aol.com said: My aide lays mine on the floor as it would not drain hanging on the end of the bed. That seems to be the best for me. I really like the idea, laying it in a basin to prevent problems of leaking if someone forgot to not latch it securely. I sleep in a old-fashioned waterbed, which prevents any pressure and I find comfortable. Dana **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377052x1201454391/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62)
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Sorry, I came in on the tail end of the conversation. Did you have a Foley catheter before your supra pubic catheter ? I have a Foley catheter and I'm thinking about getting a supra pubic. A really good friend of mine, who's a nurse, told me that my urethra will erode from sitting on it all the time. She suggested I get a supra pubic. I don't know if this is true or not. Anyone have any suggestions Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377052x1201454391/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62)
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I used to be able to void on my own. Then a few years ago all of a sudden I couldn't. So Urologist suggested self intermittent cathing. I can bearly move one arm and I don't have 24 hour care. So, then he suggested a Foley which I had for about a year but it gave me excruciating pain in my right hip which is the side I lean on. My Uro said he wasn't surprised as a Foley is in contact with a lot of nerves which could be the cause of the pain. That's when he suggested the Supra Pubic. I got a second opinion from a Uro at Mass General and he concurred. Dan At 07:46 PM 6/23/2009, ladyno...@aol.com said something that elicited my response: Sorry, I came in on the tail end of the conversation. Did you have a Foley catheter before your supra pubic catheter ? I have a Foley catheter and I'm thinking about getting a supra pubic. A really good friend of mine, who's a nurse, told me that my urethra will erode from sitting on it all the time. She suggested I get a supra pubic. I don't know if this is true or not. Anyone have any suggestions Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750. http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377052x1201454391/aol?redirSee Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!
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I never had any problems with low potassium before or since the following happened to me: I got bronchitis in early 1997. I was not able to cough stuff up and I could not find anyone around to teach the quad cough. However, my asthma inhaler helped me breathe better so I began using it *at least once* a day and probably more. I finally had to make a trip to the ER and they wanted to eliminate pneumonia so they took me in for a chest X-ray. This was after doing a blood workup. While I was getting a chest x-ray -- a nurse came flying in with the two biggest bills I have ever seen and told me that I needed to take them immediately because of my low potassium level. Come to find out later -- Albuterol (which is found in most inhalers) can lower your potassium significantly if used regularly. My potassium must have been dangerously low for the nurse not even wanting to wait until I was out of the x-ray room! I don't use my inhaler on a regular basis and do so very very very rarely (usually years) so I never had a problem with low potassium before my episode or since. Lori Michaelson Age - 44 C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post Tucson, AZ On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dan d...@unh.edu wrote: Speaking of potassium, do any of you have low potassium? I have to take 60meq a day in order to keep mine in the normal range. None of my doctors seem to know why?!? Do you guys have any ideas? On another note, at night, where and how do you hang your drainage bag? I've been laying mine on the bed by my feet but it doesn't drain very well that way especially when I raise the foot of the bed up. I've thought of hanging it on the side of the bed frame but it pulls quite a bit that way - I have a supra pubic. If I do hang it on the bed frame, should I put a loop in the tube? A CNA once told me that this helps the drainage?!?. And lastly, should I tie the tube to my thigh? I have this fear of the bag falling and pulling the cath out! TIA. Dan -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post Tucson, AZ
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I take Hydrochlorothiazide to prevent swelling, which causes low potassium (10 MEQ 2 times a day). I don't know what that means in milligrams? Does anyone else know on the list? Thank you for your answer. Dana **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322977x1201367197/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)
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My aide lays mine on the floor as it would not drain hanging on the end of the bed. That seems to be the best for me. I really like the idea, laying it in a basin to prevent problems of leaking if someone forgot to not latch it securely. I sleep in a old-fashioned waterbed, which prevents any pressure and I find comfortable. Dana **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322977x1201367197/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)
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mEq is used to denote an amount of a solute in a liter of solvent (i.e. the blood). For instance, potassium (K) is often measured as mEq/L or mEq/d http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_10_meq_mean_on_my_prescription Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: daa...@aol.com To: grock...@yahoo.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; d...@unh.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions I take Hydrochlorothiazide to prevent swelling, which causes low potassium (10 MEQ 2 times a day). I don't know what that means in milligrams? Does anyone else know on the list? Thank you for your answer. Dana -- A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
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I often have a potassium deficiency, but it isn't significant enough for me to have to take supplements. The doctors seem to think my deficiency is due to the amount of fluid I take in daily. I usually have to make sure I don't taken too much. I also have low sodium, so I usually salt almost everything and try to eat a banana a day. I also put my bag in a basin at the foot of my bed. As far as whether you should secure your catheter to your thigh, I would recommend it. I also have a suprapubic and wouldn't dream of leaving the catheter not tethered to my leg. I used to use leg straps, but for the last several years I have been using Snap Locks (spelling). These are too expensive for most people and I'm only able to get them from a source every now and then. I make them last as long as I can. I find a leg straps can be quite effective. As for loops, they can be helpful, but I have had better luck with placing my bag in such a manner that the urine is always draining down. As John rightfully put in one of his other e-mails, back flow is a terrible enemy and one which gave me quite a few UTIs when I was a real new injury. -- Quadius C2-3 incomplete 14 years post injury
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Dave, A Man after My Own Heart -- Beer Night's -- those usually happen after 5:00 PM -- Lately Every Night I agree -- I stopped using Leg bags two years ago bed bags hold so much more urine of course Gary --- On Sun, 6/7/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote: From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions To: d...@unh.edu, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 5:03 PM i cut the end off my night bag that plugs into my catheter - and then push that end over the bottom part of my legbag. that system keeps the anti-flowback valve in place and provides me with 3 quarts of storage which i don't even use on 'beer' nights. i put the night bag on the floor and my leg bag in bed beside me. this makes for good flow down to the floor and nothing can get caught on frames orwhatever. azdave In a message dated 6/7/09 1:03:02 PM, d...@unh.edu writes: Speaking of potassium, do any of you have low potassium? I have to take 60meq a day in order to keep mine in the normal range. None of my doctors seem to know why?!? Do you guys have any ideas? On another note, at night, where and how do you hang your drainage bag? I've been laying mine on the bed by my feet but it doesn't drain very well that way especially when I raise the foot of the bed up. I've thought of hanging it on the side of the bed frame but it pulls quite a bit that way - I have a supra pubic. If I do hang it on the bed frame, should I put a loop in the tube? A CNA once told me that this helps the drainage?!?. And lastly, should I tie the tube to my thigh? I have this fear of the bag falling and pulling the cath out! TIA. Dan ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377042x1201454362/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62)
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Dan, They Have Locks my nurse provides them. They simply paste onto your inner leg. Kind of like a Band-Aid but it locks the tube in place so that nothing pulls it out. I can look up the brand name if you want. The worst that I have had happen is that -- one time I caught My Bed Bag on the side of my Van. It pulled the tube out of my catheter tube. But the lock -- made sure that the catheter did not pull out Gary --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Dan d...@unh.edu wrote: From: Dan d...@unh.edu Subject: [QUAD-L] Questions To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 4:02 PM Speaking of potassium, do any of you have low potassium? I have to take 60meq a day in order to keep mine in the normal range. None of my doctors seem to know why?!? Do you guys have any ideas? On another note, at night, where and how do you hang your drainage bag? I've been laying mine on the bed by my feet but it doesn't drain very well that way especially when I raise the foot of the bed up. I've thought of hanging it on the side of the bed frame but it pulls quite a bit that way - I have a supra pubic. If I do hang it on the bed frame, should I put a loop in the tube? A CNA once told me that this helps the drainage?!?. And lastly, should I tie the tube to my thigh? I have this fear of the bag falling and pulling the cath out! TIA. Dan
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Too much water can cause water toxosis. Water washes out the salts and minerals, electrolytes, etc. You don't have to be a quad to do this. As a quad we do not release hormones in normal amounts if at all. High level quads do not produce hormones that the body needs to heal properly. Minerals, such as calcium need these hormones to direct the healing of bones. We all suffer a type of osteo-porosis similar to astronauts. I've always felt an endocrinologist would be best at figuring out a way to get synthetic hormones to help assist with these problems. They have not figured out how to stop the calcium purge that astronauts suffer from, yet. When I was younger I took a blend of vitamins and minerals in hope that it would help with some of the many broken bones. It resulted in kidney and bladder stones. I still take vitamins, but I stay away from high calcium supplements. I'm sure they have learned a lot since those days. Please keep us informed on what you find out? I can't get my blood pressure to balance any more. I have high and low blood pressure spells each day. Eating small meals and anti-stress vitamins seem to help. The key word is seem. I'd love to know if someone has developed some real scientific data that has or may lead to a treatment. Keep asking questions! Oh yeah, if I do not have a gravity loop on the bed my condom catheter simply builds pressure and blows off. Best wishes, john From: Barbara Vedder bved...@charter.net To: Dan d...@unh.edu; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 10:19:04 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions I don't know if it's the same but I do know that low calcium can be caused by over drinking of water. I never had thought that drinking water could flush the calcium out of your system but if you really overdo it like I did, it can happen. I'd never thought of it before because normally problems with calcium is the reverse; that people have too great an intake of salt and experience high calcium or high blood pressure and/or high cholesterol. Barbara On 6/7/09 3:02 PM, Dan d...@unh.edu wrote: Speaking of potassium, do any of you have low potassium? I have to take 60meq a day in order to keep mine in the normal range. None of my doctors seem to know why?!? Do you guys have any ideas? On another note, at night, where and how do you hang your drainage bag? I've been laying mine on the bed by my feet but it doesn't drain very well that way especially when I raise the foot of the bed up. I've thought of hanging it on the side of the bed frame but it pulls quite a bit that way - I have a supra pubic. If I do hang it on the bed frame, should I put a loop in the tube? A CNA once told me that this helps the drainage?!?. And lastly, should I tie the tube to my thigh? I have this fear of the bag falling and pulling the cath out! TIA. Dan
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Speaking of potassium, do any of you have low potassium? I have to take 60meq a day in order to keep mine in the normal range. None of my doctors seem to know why?!? Do you guys have any ideas? On another note, at night, where and how do you hang your drainage bag? I've been laying mine on the bed by my feet but it doesn't drain very well that way especially when I raise the foot of the bed up. I've thought of hanging it on the side of the bed frame but it pulls quite a bit that way - I have a supra pubic. If I do hang it on the bed frame, should I put a loop in the tube? A CNA once told me that this helps the drainage?!?. And lastly, should I tie the tube to my thigh? I have this fear of the bag falling and pulling the cath out! TIA. Dan
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Hey Dan... Re: Potassium, I can't speak to it directly but I believe the body treats it similarly to calcium. And for that my doc is sending me to an endocrinologist. It seems that 3 years of Fosamax didn't cause any changed in my bone density scores and he wants to find out why. (It could be going 9 mo. without while I was completely non-weightbearing bedbound.) Maybe potassium is similar (??) and an endocrinologist can figure out if/why use and absorbtion might be affected. Re: Supra and tube loops, I've never heard it helps drainage. I just know the loop in the drainage bag tube does 2 things... 1) provides some slack so I can move without having it pulled, and 2) if the loop stays on the bed instead of hanging, it prevents the weight of a urine-filled, 3-ft long tube from pulling at the stoma. Best wishes! Tod Dan d...@unh.edu wrote: Speaking of potassium, do any of you have low potassium? I have to take 60meq a day in order to keep mine in the normal range. None of my doctors seem to know why?!? Do you guys have any ideas? On another note, at night, where and how do you hang your drainage bag? I've been laying mine on the bed by my feet but it doesn't drain very well that way especially when I raise the foot of the bed up. I've thought of hanging it on the side of the bed frame but it pulls quite a bit that way - I have a supra pubic. If I do hang it on the bed frame, should I put a loop in the tube? A CNA once told me that this helps the drainage?!?. And lastly, should I tie the tube to my thigh? I have this fear of the bag falling and pulling the cath out! TIA. Dan
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i cut the end off my night bag that plugs into my catheter - and then push that end over the bottom part of my legbag.that system keeps the anti-flowback valve in place and provides me with 3 quarts of storage which i don't even use on 'beer' nights. i put the night bag on the floor and my leg bag in bed beside me. this makes for good flow down to the floor and nothing can get caught on frames orwhatever. azdave In a message dated 6/7/09 1:03:02 PM, d...@unh.edu writes: Speaking of potassium, do any of you have low potassium? I have to take 60meq a day in order to keep mine in the normal range. None of my doctors seem to know why?!? Do you guys have any ideas? On another note, at night, where and how do you hang your drainage bag? I've been laying mine on the bed by my feet but it doesn't drain very well that way especially when I raise the foot of the bed up. I've thought of hanging it on the side of the bed frame but it pulls quite a bit that way - I have a supra pubic. If I do hang it on the bed frame, should I put a loop in the tube? A CNA once told me that this helps the drainage?!?. And lastly, should I tie the tube to my thigh? I have this fear of the bag falling and pulling the cath out! TIA. Dan ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377042x1201454362/aol?redir =http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62)
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I have a plastic box under the bed that I put it in for the night. If it leaks, it goes in the box! KK
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kk, i do the same thing. i have too many pca's that forget to latch my nightbag closed... lucinda c4-5 complete july 31, ' 05 mpls., mn --- On Sun, 6/7/09, KK kkba...@yahoo.com wrote: From: KK kkba...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions To: Dan d...@unh.edu, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 4:53 PM I have a plastic box under the bed that I put it in for the night. If it leaks, it goes in the box! KK
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I always have my Aids loop it on my mattress hang it on the side of my bed place a basin under the bag in case it springs a leak. Lindaf
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I don't know if it's the same but I do know that low calcium can be caused by over drinking of water. I never had thought that drinking water could flush the calcium out of your system but if you really overdo it like I did, it can happen. I'd never thought of it before because normally problems with calcium is the reverse; that people have too great an intake of salt and experience high calcium or high blood pressure and/or high cholesterol. Barbara On 6/7/09 3:02 PM, Dan d...@unh.edu wrote: Speaking of potassium, do any of you have low potassium? I have to take 60meq a day in order to keep mine in the normal range. None of my doctors seem to know why?!? Do you guys have any ideas? On another note, at night, where and how do you hang your drainage bag? I've been laying mine on the bed by my feet but it doesn't drain very well that way especially when I raise the foot of the bed up. I've thought of hanging it on the side of the bed frame but it pulls quite a bit that way - I have a supra pubic. If I do hang it on the bed frame, should I put a loop in the tube? A CNA once told me that this helps the drainage?!?. And lastly, should I tie the tube to my thigh? I have this fear of the bag falling and pulling the cath out! TIA. Dan
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Hire an aide _ From: tom garbisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:54 PM To: quad list Subject: [QUAD-L] questions Someone was talking about meds they started because of a sore last week but I don't remember name of med. if someone could tell me that be great. Also those people with spouses, my wife is more my care giver than wife, any idea's on how to reverse this? And for those with penis implants what are the draw backs if any thank you T- C3-4 1998 _ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http:/www.yahoo.com/r/hs your homepage.
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Someone was talking about meds they started because of a sore last week but I don't remember name of med. if someone could tell me that be great. Also those people with spouses, my wife is more my care giver than wife, any idea's on how to reverse this? And for those with penis implants what are the draw backs if any thank you T- C3-4 1998 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Hi Tom, I don't know too much about penis implants other than being a surgical nurse during the insertion during surgery. I do know they have come along way with the improvement of implants. You also wanted to know about medication for a pressure sore, I have one on the gluteal fold of my left buttocks it is almost healed. We are using nitrostatin powder, a small piece of auglicill covered with small piece of polymehm metaphor tape. Hope this helps. Lindaf - Original Message - From: tom garbisch To: quad list Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] questions Someone was talking about meds they started because of a sore last week but I don't remember name of med. if someone could tell me that be great. Also those people with spouses, my wife is more my care giver than wife, any idea's on how to reverse this? And for those with penis implants what are the draw backs if any thank you T- C3-4 1998 -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 11:29 AM
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Danny, I have been working for the department of Defense for about a year and a half. I broke my neck twenty days before I turned 16. I finished high school then went to college in Tucson, AZ. I got my BS in Management Information Systems and Operational Management. Worked a little at an IT company got laid off. Spent a few looking for a job and get a job with Comcast, and now work for the federal government. Just bought a house in Maryland already wheelchair access. Life has been hard at time but I just kept my head up and fight for what I wanted. Don’t ever give up you never know what is going to happen tomorrow. Lester C4-5 Quad Gambrills, MD 19 years post _ From: Danny Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:16 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] questions So what doeseveryone do for fun and work? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM
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I went to school for several years in order to get my bachelor's degree, but since I finished I haven't been attending any school or have I found the right job yet. I am still looking, but I'd really like to work from home. It's too bad I didn't think more about what I was going to do after I got out of school. Initially I wanted to do some writing, but right now I don't think I can really earn anything substantial without taking some more classes. However, that may be something I'll do next semester. I really should have thought about taking some business courses so I might have been able to put some of the experiences I had prior to injury to better use. I was a training/schools/ammo noncommissioned officer for an Army battalion. Now knowing a little bit about what goes on in life I think that would probably make me a good human resource officer, albeit I have no experience in the civilian sector. As for fun, I love going to the movies when I get the opportunity. I enjoy blogging, reading, watching sports, and watching tons of television. I also use Dragon NaturallySpeaking in order to operate my computer. Quadius On 8/27/07, Danny Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what doeseveryone do for fun and work?
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Well, Danny, believe it or not, I am a high school English teacher for 27 yrs. I have been a quad for 36 yrs - since I was 19. It has been a tough row to hoe, as you already know. My injury is c-5, diving accident. From: Danny Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] questions Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:15:52 -0700 So what doeseveryone do for fun and work? _ See what youre getting into before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507
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I do genealogy research for myself and others. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL My doctor refused to write me a prescription for Viagra. He said it would be like putting a new flagpole on a condemned building. - Original Message - From: Danny Espinoza To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:15 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] questions So what doeseveryone do for fun and work?
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I work with a construction company and schedule subs, material, take bids and go to job sites and inspect progress and that's also what I do for fun, job sites are really fun if you have the right eqipment. I do work with and on the board for the same non profit that helped me get out of a nursing home, this year we're having our 15 annual Gimps at DeGrey fun day where we take kids out of some of these institutions and let them have fun on the lake for a change. I'm staying busy! Mark Jackson RollinOn _ From: Danny Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:16 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] questions So what doeseveryone do for fun and work? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 8/25/2007 5:00 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 8/26/2007 9:34 PM
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In a message dated 8/27/2007 3:22:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what doeseveryone do for fun and work? I don't work but I try not to think of what I can't do for fun anymore cause it's not going to make a difference anyway. (sure wish I could go swimming with my 4 yr old grand daughter though). What I do now is I drive so I do have some independence, my grand daughter most of my family I still enjoy :-) cards, reading watching a good movie. A few beers now then...use to be often a lot. Dianna ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[QUAD-L] questions- Fuel Cell vs Fuel Tank
In a message dated 8/10/05 8:33:48 PM, DiannaL767 writes: 3. Does the manufacturer use the original fuel tank or a fuel cell? Does the manufacturer use the original fuel pump? what is a fuel cell? Fuel cells look alike fuel tanks but are designed differently. Usually deeper than the tank and made from fibreglass with a rubber bladder. The fuel pump doesn't sit as deep into the cell as it did the tank and is probably the reason for early failure due to overheating. W
Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.
I try to enjoy the role of poor defenseless beggar. Society doesn't actually owe me anything, but stupid people owe everyone something. Why not let her give you money if it makes her feel better. The acceptance of charity can be fun and rewarding,too! The sooner you learn that life has a weird flip side to explore the more fun you will have. Just my humble opinion. Y'all know I'm laughing, right? john In a message dated 8/7/2005 11:54:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would have given her 2 fives for her ten, then trump her, lolWIn a message dated 8/7/05 10:46:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my own business, waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and tried to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed it more than me, though. so i declined. luke
Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.
You must keep in mind that most states no longer provide asylums and orphanages for such people. Homeless people aren't new, we just officially ignore them instead of taking care of them. I don't think that we should underestimate what the government is willing to cut in the name of lower taxes for the wealthy. john In a message dated 8/7/2005 4:28:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: luke try this I went to 125th st. in Harlem/NYC to videotape the exterior of the Apollo Theater and some guy who looked to be living "al fresco" felt he could vent his anger at "the man" by putting 3 pennies by the joystick on my chair. I resisted the natural reaction to brush them away (after all I was not in the position to return his insult) when I moved my chair back for a wider angle, the pennies fell to the ground. About a minute later, a well kept, Sunday-best / hat wearing little 'ol lady stopped to pick up the money with her clean white gloves. You could almost hear her thinking;"find a penny, pick it up" When my eyes met the idiot who left me the money. There was no need for words. This sent him ranting down the streetand screaming about racial persecution, with no concern that his foul language might be offending the other "little 'ol ladies" in ear-shot. My point is- yeah, the woman at Target was a dweeb, but her heart was in the right place. It's the false concern that is the real insult. Use the incident as a chance to share your perspective so she won't be dweeb again -Cameron -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:46 AMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my own business,waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and tried to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed it more than me, though. so i declined. luke In a message dated 8/6/2005 12:33:05 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was in Sams and a kid about 4 years old told his mother he wanted a 'remote control car like that one!' His mother was horrified and it was still pretty soon after my leaving rehab so I did not say anything, but did think it was funny!Dana and Rocco[EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message - From: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; "~LittleQuad~" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:14 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.Kids crack me up, when my nephew seen me for the first time after myaccident he told me "OK get up it's my turn" I was lmao because it was soinnocent because they just don't know but when kids ask questions theyusually ask more intelligent questions than adults and they have a millionof them on your chair.Mark---Original Message---From: ~LittleQuad~Date: 08/02/05 13:41:03To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady onceasked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my momput her hand over my mouth HAHAI would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumband assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they findout i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc.will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chestdown and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they askhow far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAremost people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Danhttp://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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You said a mouth full. They just passed the energy bill which gave 7 billion dollars in tax cuts for the largest oil company in the world because they were just going broke I guess! You know many people could be housed on 7 billion? WOW! Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08/08/05 13:53:39 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. You must keep in mind that most states no longer provide asylums and orphanages for such people. Homeless people aren't new, we just officially ignore them instead of taking care of them. I don't think that we should underestimate what the government is willing to cut in the name of lower taxes for the wealthy. john In a message dated 8/7/2005 4:28:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: luke try this I went to 125th st. in Harlem/NYC to videotape the exterior of the Apollo Theater and some guy who looked to be living "al fresco" felt he could vent his anger at "the man" by putting 3 pennies by the joystick on my chair. I resisted the natural reaction to brush them away (after all I was not in the position to return his insult) when I moved my chair back for a wider angle, the pennies fell to the ground. About a minute later, a well kept, Sunday-best / hat wearing little 'ol lady stopped to pick up the money with her clean white gloves. You could almost hear her thinking;"find a penny, pick it up" When my eyes met the idiot who left me the money. There was no need for words. This sent him ranting down the streetand screaming about racial persecution, with no concern that his foul language might be offending the other "little 'ol ladies" in ear-shot. My point is- yeah, the woman at Target was a dweeb, but her heart was in the right place. It's the false concern that is the real insult. Use the incident as a chance to share your perspective so she won't be dweeb again -Cameron -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:46 AMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my own business,waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and tried to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed it more than me, though. so i declined. luke In a message dated 8/6/2005 12:33:05 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was in Sams and a kid about 4 years old told his mother he wanted a 'remote control car like that one!' His mother was horrified and it was still pretty soon after my leaving rehab so I did not say anything, but did think it was funny!Dana and Rocco[EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message - From: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; "~LittleQuad~" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:14 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.Kids crack me up, when my nephew seen me for the first time after myaccident he told me "OK get up it's my turn" I was lmao because it was soinnocent because they just don't know but when kids ask questions theyusually ask more intelligent questions than adults and they have a millionof them on your chair.Mark---Original Message---From: ~LittleQuad~Date: 08/02/05 13:41:03To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady onceasked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my momput her hand over my mouth HAHAI would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumband assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they findout i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc.will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chestdown and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they askhow far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAremost people really this dumb or just uninformed ?Danhttp://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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Not 7 billion,,, 14 billion for large oil companies. It is only the price
for 2 more super carriers the navy hasn't enough men to crew. or 1 more shuttle.
Another "big dig'. !4 billion dollars would be wasted by public schools or
hospitals. We know it so we will never attempt it. (same logic behind the lack
of stem cell research.)
Bush is a great example of why democracy shouldn't be shoved down other
people's throats.
john
In a message dated 8/8/2005 3:34:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You said a mouth full.
They just passed the energy bill which gave 7 billion dollars
in tax cuts for the largest oil company in the world because they were
just going broke I guess!
You know many people could be housed on 7 billion? WOW!
Mark
---Original
Message---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 08/08/05
13:53:39
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Questions People ask us Quads.
You must keep in mind that most states no longer provide asylums
and orphanages for such people. Homeless people aren't new, we just
officially ignore them instead of taking care of them. I don't think
that we should underestimate what the government is willing to cut in
the name of lower taxes for the wealthy.
john
In a message dated 8/7/2005 4:28:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
luke
try this
I went to 125th st. in Harlem/NYC to
videotape the exterior of the Apollo Theater and some guy who looked to
be living "al fresco" felt he could vent his anger at "the man" by
putting 3 pennies by the joystick on my chair. I resisted the natural
reaction to brush them away (after all I was not in the position to
return his insult) when I moved my chair back for a wider angle, the
pennies fell to the ground. About a minute later, a well kept,
Sunday-best / hat wearing little 'ol lady stopped to pick up the money
with her clean white gloves. You could almost hear her thinking;"find a
penny, pick it up" When my eyes met the idiot who left me the
money. There was no need for words. This sent him ranting down the
streetand screaming about racial persecution, with no concern that
his foul language might be offending the other "little 'ol ladies" in
ear-shot.
My point is- yeah, the woman at
Target was a dweeb, but her heart was in the right place. It's the false
concern that is the real insult. Use the incident as a chance to share
your perspective so she won't be dweeb again
-Cameron
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,
August 07, 2005 11:46 AMTo:
quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People
ask us Quads.
one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my own
business,waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and tried
to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed it more than
me, though. so i declined.
luke
In a message dated 8/6/2005 12:33:05 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was in Sams and a kid
about 4 years old told his mother he wanted a 'remote control car
like that one!' His mother was horrified and it was still
pretty soon after my leaving rehab so I did not say anything, but did
think it was funny!Dana and
Rocco[EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message - From:
"QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com;
"~LittleQuad~" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August
02, 2005 3:14 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us
Quads.Kids crack me up, when my nephew seen me for the first
time after myaccident he told me "OK get up it's my turn" I was lmao
because it was soinnocent because they just don't know but when kids
ask questions theyusually ask more intelligent questions than adults
and they have a millionof them on your
chair.Mark---Original
Message---From: ~LittleQuad~Date: 08/02/05
13:41:03To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us
Quads.uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions...
airline lady onceasked if i was going to walk onto plane so they
could load my c
[QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.-The Power Book
Hiya John, I encourage you or anyone to read a book of the 70's by Peter Korda, called the Power book. It was a best seller and went into several printings. I am not a book reader. I just don't have the time, but when I read this book, I couldn't set it down. It deals with the progression of power. How to recognize it and how to deal with it. One of the chapters was on the subject, ON. ON, stands for Owe Nothing. Its not new to you and others. The Chinese are great believers of ON as they feel that they must pay all of their bills by the end of each year. But ON, affect many of our daily decisions in lift. Other chapters include, The Power of Buddha and Women and Power. W In a message dated 8/8/05 12:04:12 PM, DeLiMiTeD4 writes: The acceptance of charity can be fun and rewarding, too! The sooner you learn that life has a weird flip side to explore the more fun you will have. Just my humble opinion. Y'all know I'm laughing, right? john
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one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my own business,waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and tried to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed it more than me, though. so i declined. luke In a message dated 8/6/2005 12:33:05 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was in Sams and a kid about 4 years old told his mother he wanted a 'remote control car like that one!' His mother was horrified and it was still pretty soon after my leaving rehab so I did not say anything, but did think it was funny!Dana and Rocco[EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message - From: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; "~LittleQuad~" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:14 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.Kids crack me up, when my nephew seen me for the first time after myaccident he told me "OK get up it's my turn" I was lmao because it was soinnocent because they just don't know but when kids ask questions theyusually ask more intelligent questions than adults and they have a millionof them on your chair.Mark---Original Message---From: ~LittleQuad~Date: 08/02/05 13:41:03To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady onceasked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my momput her hand over my mouth HAHAI would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumband assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they findout i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc.will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chestdown and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they askhow far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAremost people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Danhttp://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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I would have given her 2 fives for her ten, then trump her, lol W In a message dated 8/7/05 10:46:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my own business, waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and tried to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed it more than me, though. so i declined. luke
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I have found that older people sometimes just want to help. I think it's a sweet story. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. I would have given her 2 fives for her ten, then trump her, lolWIn a message dated 8/7/05 10:46:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my own business, waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and tried to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed it more than me, though. so i declined. luke
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Title: Message luke try this I went to 125th st. in Harlem/NYC to videotape the exterior of the Apollo Theater and some guy who looked to be living "al fresco" felt he could vent his anger at "the man" by putting 3 pennies by the joystick on my chair. I resisted the natural reaction to brush them away (after all I was not in the position to return his insult) when I moved my chair back for a wider angle, the pennies fell to the ground. About a minute later, a well kept, Sunday-best / hat wearing little 'ol lady stopped to pick up the money with her clean white gloves. You could almost hear her thinking;"find a penny, pick it up" When my eyes met the idiot who left me the money. There was no need for words. This sent him ranting down the streetand screaming about racial persecution, with no concern that his foul language might be offending the other "little 'ol ladies" in ear-shot. My point is- yeah, the woman at Target was a dweeb, but her heart was in the right place. It's the false concern that is the real insult. Use the incident as a chance to share your perspective so she won't be dweeb again -Cameron -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:46 AMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my own business,waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and tried to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed it more than me, though. so i declined. luke In a message dated 8/6/2005 12:33:05 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was in Sams and a kid about 4 years old told his mother he wanted a 'remote control car like that one!' His mother was horrified and it was still pretty soon after my leaving rehab so I did not say anything, but did think it was funny!Dana and Rocco[EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message - From: "QuadPirate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; "~LittleQuad~" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:14 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.Kids crack me up, when my nephew seen me for the first time after myaccident he told me "OK get up it's my turn" I was lmao because it was soinnocent because they just don't know but when kids ask questions theyusually ask more intelligent questions than adults and they have a millionof them on your chair.Mark---Original Message---From: ~LittleQuad~Date: 08/02/05 13:41:03To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady onceasked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my momput her hand over my mouth HAHAI would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumband assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they findout i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc.will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chestdown and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they askhow far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAremost people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Danhttp://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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i had no ill feelings toward the lady. i am just not the kind of person to take money from a little old lady. now if i had a tip jar sitting in my lap and was playing the harmonica i would have gladly recieved. luke In a message dated 8/7/2005 3:25:28 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: luke try this I went to 125th st. in Harlem/NYC to videotape the exterior of the Apollo Theater and some guy who looked to be living "al fresco" felt he could vent his anger at "the man" by putting 3 pennies by the joystick on my chair. I resisted the natural reaction to brush them away (after all I was not in the position to return his insult) when I moved my chair back for a wider angle, the pennies fell to the ground. About a minute later, a well kept, Sunday-best / hat wearing little 'ol lady stopped to pick up the money with her clean white gloves. You could almost hear her thinking;"find a penny, pick it up" When my eyes met the idiot who left me the money. There was no need for words. This sent him ranting down the streetand screaming about racial persecution, with no concern that his foul language might be offending the other "little 'ol ladies" in ear-shot. My point is- yeah, the woman at Target was a dweeb, but her heart was in the right place. It's the false concern that is the real insult. Use the incident as a chance to share your perspective so she won't be dweeb again -Cameron
Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.
I was in Sams and a kid about 4 years old told his mother he wanted a 'remote control car like that one!' His mother was horrified and it was still pretty soon after my leaving rehab so I did not say anything, but did think it was funny! Dana and Rocco [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: QuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. Kids crack me up, when my nephew seen me for the first time after my accident he told me OK get up it's my turn I was lmao because it was so innocent because they just don't know but when kids ask questions they usually ask more intelligent questions than adults and they have a million of them on your chair. Mark ---Original Message--- From: ~LittleQuad~ Date: 08/02/05 13:41:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady once asked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my mom put her hand over my mouth HAHA I would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumb and assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they find out i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Dan http://fly.to/littlequad Yahoo ID - littlequad
Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.
Great comments. I have tried this several times and still have difficulties, but I do try to be patient. I do appreciate it when a proprietor knows me and will have everything set up for me when I arrived. Those business owners will continue to get my business.Billy[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is that such a stupid question? Most paraplegics and some quadriplegics can transfer themselves. The beautician or the owner of the business might know this and wanted to find out to see if he/she needed to make any adjustments to his/her station. The first time I went to the dentist he thought I would be able to get into his room because his other patients with wheelchairs had no problem. I was not able to get in without him moving the dentist chair because my wheelchair has a longer wheelbase than standard because of my size. Now, when I arrive for my appointment the dentistchair is movedout ofthe way and I back right in with no problems. I have a sign in the back of my van that says "Handicap driver, please be patient" because of all the drivers that are in a rush all the time. Believe it or not this sign works very well. I have not been Honked at since I put this sign in my window three years ago. Before I put this sign in the window I washonked that at least once per day. We as quadriplegics and paraplegics also have to be "patient" with able-bodied people because they have no idea what our life is like and what we go through. When I make a reservation at a restaurant I tell them that I'm in a power wheelchair and should be put somewhere where I'm out of their way because I cannot fit underneath a table. If they put me in an aisle way and I'm in their way that is their problem because I will not keep moving out of the way for them. Every restaurant that I have gone to has told me that they appreciate the heads up so they can makeadjustments if need! ed. I have never felt rushed or uncomfortable in any restaurant that I have gone to. Jim Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
[QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.
Great Advice JR! Celebrities and Quads need to offer some heads up before arrival as it is difficult to imagine what anyone needs. And in business, you try to accommodate everyone Including celebrities. W In a message dated 8/3/05 6:55:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I make a reservation at a restaurant I tell them that I'm in a power wheelchair and should be put somewhere where I'm out of their way because I cannot fit underneath a table. If they put me in an aisle way and I'm in their way that is their problem because I will not keep moving out of the way for them. Every restaurant that I have gone to has told me that they appreciate the heads up so they can make adjustments if needed. I have never felt rushed or uncomfortable in ! any restaurant that I have gone to. Jim
[QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.
At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Dan
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Dan wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? - I just got a similar line yesterday at the beauty salon for my hair cut. I ask is the place wasaccessible for a power wheelchair? I'm paralyzed from the chest down. Their answer was; yes, but can you get into the barber seat. Keith/c4-5/NJ
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i didn't know jack shit about quads before i became one and still it took a few years for me to learn all the interworkings of quad life. when i first had my accident, i rememberpeople asking me if i would ever ride another dirtbike and i kept telling people, "oh yea, as soon as i heal up." there i was sitting in bed couldn't even feed myself.it's hard for people to become conscious to things they don't experience (physically, emotionally). if i hadn't been injured i probably would beoutat the theaternot knowing the guy in the handicapped section in front of mewas pissing through a tube. be patient with those who don't understand besides murderball justcame maybe more people wil understand. luke c5/6, 5yrs post
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Why is that such a stupid question? Most paraplegics and some quadriplegics can transfer themselves. The beautician or the owner of the business might know this and wanted to find out to see if he/she needed to make any adjustments to his/her station. The first time I went to the dentist he thought I would be able to get into his room because his other patients with wheelchairs had no problem. I was not able to get in without him moving the dentist chair because my wheelchair has a longer wheelbase than standard because of my size. Now, when I arrive for my appointment the dentistchair is movedout ofthe way and I back right in with no problems. I have a sign in the back of my van that says "Handicap driver, please be patient" because of all the drivers that are in a rush all the time. Believe it or not this sign works very well. I have not been Honked at since I put this sign in my window three years ago. Before I put this sign in the window I washonked that at least once per day. We as quadriplegics and paraplegics also have to be "patient" with able-bodied people because they have no idea what our life is like and what we go through. When I make a reservation at a restaurant I tell them that I'm in a power wheelchair and should be put somewhere where I'm out of their way because I cannot fit underneath a table. If they put me in an aisle way and I'm in their way that is their problem because I will not keep moving out of the way for them. Every restaurant that I have gone to has told me that they appreciate the heads up so they can makeadjustments if needed. I have never felt rushed or uncomfortable in any restaurant that I have gone to. Jim
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People ask me. I tell them that I got a rare illness 4 years ago that left me paralyzed and they ask will I get better. That's no so silly except for the people that I have gotten in detail with and I tell them that there hasn't been any improvement in over 3. I have even had nurses ask me if I can stand up. UGH NO I'm paralyzed is what I think but like Billy, I dont want to come off rude so I just tell them nicely as with the getting better question. Stacu - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Dan
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In a message dated 8/2/2005 9:58:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? dan, that's a winner! i'd say really dumb! sounds like a joke coming from 'larry the cable guy'. i often wonder... if the general public only knew the whole ordeal of being a quad, what we go thru each day to survive, what they would think? most think our only problem is that were unable to walk! diane
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I don't mind questions about my injury. If people don't know anyone with a spinal injury, they probably don't know much about it. There are so many reasons people use chairs, so many ways people get paralyzed. You see people listed as quads who can walk with a walker, but don't have perfect control. Being paralyzed doesn't always mean "complete". Plus, anyone who doesn't know much about it can get misinformation from watching TV movies where everyone who is paralyzed ends up walking because "They have such courage". I say to the non disabled... "Ask Away" it's the only way to learn. The more they learn about us, the more they will see we are just like them... only different :-) Greg
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uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady once asked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my mom put her hand over my mouth HAHA I would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumb and assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they find out i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Dan http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady once asked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my mom put her hand over my mouth HAHAI would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumb and assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they find out i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Dan http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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Yes, DianeI think that is correct about most walking people, Also very many can't understand how we have any pain if we are paralyzed LOL . Dan
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Kids crack me up, when my nephew seen me for the first time after my accident he told me "OK get up it's my turn" I waslmao because it was soinnocent because they just don't know but when kids ask questions they usually ask more intelligent questions than adults andthey have a million of them on your chair. Mark ---Original Message--- From: ~LittleQuad~ Date: 08/02/05 13:41:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. uniformed for sure, even new docs ask crazy questions... airline lady once asked if i was going to walk onto plane so they could load my chair...my mom put her hand over my mouth HAHA I would rather someone asked about why i'm in chair than think i'm just dumb and assume the worst.. i like the suprise look on their faces when they find out i wasn't born like this and i can feel things etc.is priceless ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Dan http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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Dan, you don't want to know how stupid people really are. It is just too scarey. john In a message dated 8/2/2005 9:58:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Dan
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I find it boring to keep repeating a story about a car wreck I don't remember. I enjoy making up more exciting stories. The adults seem to love the one where I fell from a 7th floor window while hiding froma woman's husband. I have told people that I'm highly contagious and unfortunately, It's too late, they were exposed when I said "hello'. People are obviously more like herd animals than predators. They really aren't particularly smart. john In a message dated 8/2/2005 11:49:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People ask me. I tell them that I got a rare illness 4 years ago that left me paralyzed and they ask will I get better. That's no so silly except for the people that I have gotten in detail with and I tell them that there hasn't been any improvement in over 3. I have even had nurses ask me if I can stand up. UGH NO I'm paralyzed is what I think but like Billy, I don’t want to come off rude so I just tell them nicely as with the getting better question. Stacu - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads. At Least Once A Month , people in my neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just uninformed ? Dan
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LOL John. You ARE my kind of Quad. If you got a boring stories, give the crowd what they want to hear. Make'em crawl and cry, then bring out the cup, lol. Still looking for the most inventing story, lol. W In a message dated 8/2/05 6:05:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find it boring to keep repeating a story about a car wreck I don't remember. I enjoy making up more exciting stories. The adults seem to love the one where I fell from a 7th floor window while hiding from a woman's husband. I have told people that I'm highly contagious and unfortunately, It's too late, they were exposed when I said hello'. People are obviously more like herd animals than predators. They really aren't particularly smart. john
