Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Ulrich Windl]

On 1/15/22 18:22, Scat wrote:

Thanks all for the help...making progress...really appreciate the responses

As I continue to explore the new 4.1rc3 another issue comes up that I 
can't remember experiencing with 4.0 and it seems important:


When I try to back up my system and insert a WD external hard drive I 
get an error when I try to mount it, specifically "Error mounting 
/dev/sda1 at run/media/user/easystore: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs3,ntfs'


Backing up Qubes OS to NTFS seems a bad idea to me. Why not use a 
dedicated medium/partition formatted with a unix filesystem like xfs?




- I tried both USB ports, same error
- I tried multiple hard drives, including the one I used with my 4.0 
setup, same error
- I see the device in my sys-usb but the error comes when I try to mount 
the device
- I can mount a small USB drive and transfer files but when I put in a 
large disk the error occurs
- I tried backing up on a 32g thumb drive and it started to back up but 
then errored out with the following: "ERROR: Writing backup to VM 
failed: cat: write error: File too large (I use a dedicated VM for my 
email(Thunderbird) which has a lot of emails.

- Never had this problem with my 4.0 set up
- I googled and found similar issues but nothing with a solution

The above is my biggest issue right now but also had a few other questions:
- USB-C doesn't seem to work? Not a big deal but I can't mount a USB-C 
thumbdrive(in all fairness I was using a regular USB and used a dongle 
to convert to USB-C). I found an old thread that mentioned USB-C isn't 
supported in Qubes...
- My Thunderbird VM(dedicated VM to email) seems to constantly be 
downloading emails (I remember this from my 4.0 set up and it eventually 
stopped) but I have a large number of emails. Is there a better way to 
manage this? Can I some how save these emails with out deleting them? I 
changed "Private storage max size:" to 30g...not sure this is right but 
seems to make sense. I also changed Initial memory to 500MB and Max 
memory to 5000MB in an effort to add more resources to my email VM


The lack of being able to back-up is my biggest concern...


On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 10:30:10 AM UTC-6 stevenlc...@gmail.com 
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On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 11:15 AM 'awokd' via qubes-users
 wrote:

Scat:

 > TPM: Device not found <---Is this Anti-Evil Maid" ?

Yes.

VT-D settings look OK. Qubes will warn on install if something
required
is missing.


Anybody try using a vTPM or TPM Simulator with Qubes?

My machine came with a "software TPM" which only works under Windows
apparently. I had previously looked at Xen vTPM but somehow could
not manage to get it to work under Qubes. I can't be the only one
out there without a TPM, so I just wanted to ask if anyone else had
looked into a virtual/software replacement yet.



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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

['awokd' via qubes-users]

Scat:


When I try to back up my system and insert a WD external hard drive I get
an error when I try to mount it, specifically "Error mounting /dev/sda1 at
run/media/user/easystore: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs3,ntfs'


Add an ntfs package to the template you're using for the AppVM where 
you're trying to mount it.




The above is my biggest issue right now but also had a few other questions:
- USB-C doesn't seem to work? Not a big deal but I can't mount a USB-C
thumbdrive(in all fairness I was using a regular USB and used a dongle to
convert to USB-C). I found an old thread that mentioned USB-C isn't
supported in Qubes...


I think USB-C is supported now, but can't confirm. Maybe try an addin 
USB-C adapter so you can connect directly?



- My Thunderbird VM(dedicated VM to email) seems to constantly be
downloading emails (I remember this from my 4.0 set up and it eventually
stopped) but I have a large number of emails. Is there a better way to
manage this? Can I some how save these emails with out deleting them? I
changed "Private storage max size:" to 30g...not sure this is right but
seems to make sense. I also changed Initial memory to 500MB and Max memory
to 5000MB in an effort to add more resources to my email VM


Your changes seem reasonable. I doubt email would need more than 1-2GB 
max RAM, but more won't hurt if you have plenty. You can create a local 
mail folder in Thunderbird and move your emails there, but then it 
becomes even more important to have a good backup as the only location 
for them would be on local storage.


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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Scat]

Thanks all for the help...making progress...really appreciate the responses

As I continue to explore the new 4.1rc3 another issue comes up that I can't 
remember experiencing with 4.0 and it seems important:

When I try to back up my system and insert a WD external hard drive I get 
an error when I try to mount it, specifically "Error mounting /dev/sda1 at 
run/media/user/easystore: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs3,ntfs'

- I tried both USB ports, same error
- I tried multiple hard drives, including the one I used with my 4.0 setup, 
same error
- I see the device in my sys-usb but the error comes when I try to mount 
the device
- I can mount a small USB drive and transfer files but when I put in a 
large disk the error occurs
- I tried backing up on a 32g thumb drive and it started to back up but 
then errored out with the following: "ERROR: Writing backup to VM failed: 
cat: write error: File too large (I use a dedicated VM for my 
email(Thunderbird) which has a lot of emails.
- Never had this problem with my 4.0 set up
- I googled and found similar issues but nothing with a solution

The above is my biggest issue right now but also had a few other questions:
- USB-C doesn't seem to work? Not a big deal but I can't mount a USB-C 
thumbdrive(in all fairness I was using a regular USB and used a dongle to 
convert to USB-C). I found an old thread that mentioned USB-C isn't 
supported in Qubes...
- My Thunderbird VM(dedicated VM to email) seems to constantly be 
downloading emails (I remember this from my 4.0 set up and it eventually 
stopped) but I have a large number of emails. Is there a better way to 
manage this? Can I some how save these emails with out deleting them? I 
changed "Private storage max size:" to 30g...not sure this is right but 
seems to make sense. I also changed Initial memory to 500MB and Max memory 
to 5000MB in an effort to add more resources to my email VM

The lack of being able to back-up is my biggest concern...


On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 10:30:10 AM UTC-6 stevenlc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 11:15 AM 'awokd' via qubes-users <
> qubes...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Scat:
>>
>> > TPM: Device not found <---Is this Anti-Evil Maid" ?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> VT-D settings look OK. Qubes will warn on install if something required 
>> is missing.
>>
>
> Anybody try using a vTPM or TPM Simulator with Qubes? 
>
> My machine came with a "software TPM" which only works under Windows 
> apparently. I had previously looked at Xen vTPM but somehow could not 
> manage to get it to work under Qubes. I can't be the only one out there 
> without a TPM, so I just wanted to ask if anyone else had looked into a 
> virtual/software replacement yet.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Steve Coleman]

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 11:15 AM 'awokd' via qubes-users <
qubes-users@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Scat:
>
> > TPM: Device not found <---Is this Anti-Evil Maid" ?
>
> Yes.
>
> VT-D settings look OK. Qubes will warn on install if something required
> is missing.
>

Anybody try using a vTPM or TPM Simulator with Qubes?

My machine came with a "software TPM" which only works under Windows
apparently. I had previously looked at Xen vTPM but somehow could not
manage to get it to work under Qubes. I can't be the only one out there
without a TPM, so I just wanted to ask if anyone else had looked into a
virtual/software replacement yet.

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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

['awokd' via qubes-users]

Scat:


TPM: Device not found <---Is this Anti-Evil Maid" ?


Yes.

VT-D settings look OK. Qubes will warn on install if something required 
is missing.



3) I tried to Install Anti-Evil-Maid
sudo qubes-dom0-update anti-evil-maid<---It timed out or couldn't find
where to download??


May not be out yet for 4.1, but you'd need to get your TPM functional 
first anyways.



4) Cool feature but 4.1rc3 has options in General Settings to pick how to
update dom0, which one do I use for 4.1rc3?: Stable updates? Testing
updates? Unstable updates? or Testing updates(security only)?


If this is your primary workstation, choose stable or testing(security 
only) if you want security updates as soon as they are released, but 
with potential problems as they haven't been as broadly tested. If you 
don't mind breakage and want to test updates in advance and provide 
feedback, choose Testing.


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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Scat]

I just updated my OS to 4.1rc3pretty slick! I picked up a X1 Carbon 
(5thG) and loaded it on...the install went pretty good. Verifying the ISO 
is still a painI would suggest Qubes sell a bootable thumb drive that 
has been verified, maybe package it in a tamper resistant package for 
security. I would pay for that...might be a good way to raise funds.

Some early observations are:
- I have always used Debian for my Printing VM...struggled setting Debian 
up for printing but setting up Fedora was a breeze. Although I don't get 
some of the print notifications...not a big deal at all.
- Love the disposable USB and firewall. 

I did have a few questions I was hoping to get help with:


1) I ran these tests I know: qubes-hcl-report AppVM  (Name of a "AppVM" I 
was running)

Results you want:
HVM: Active
I/O MMU: Active
HAP/SLAT: Yes
TPM: Device not found  <- Is this Anti-Evil-Made I am missing?
Remapping: Yes

2)I also ran this test: sudo xl dmesg|grep VT-d  (Thats a small “L” and a 
“|” Shift+\)

Results you want:
XEN Intel VT-d iommu 0 supported page sizes: 4kB
XEN Intel VT-d iommu 1 supported page sizes: 4kB
XEN Intel VT-d Snoop Control not enabled
XEN Intel VT-d Dom0 DMA Passthrough not enabled
XEN Intel VT-d Queued Invalidation enabled
XEN Intel VT-d Interrupt Remapping enabled

Post Interupt not enabled<- This is something new?? Is this OK?

XEN Intel VT-d Shared EPT tables not enabled - This is enabled


3)I was not able to install "Anti-Evil-Maid" it seemed to time out?
sudo qubes-dom0-update anti-evil-maid 


4) With 4.1rc3 I noticed some cool GUI options in "Global Settings" for 
picking how to update dom0for 4.1rc3 which one do I use? 
Stable(default)? Testing updates? Unstable updates? or Testing 
updates(security only)?

Thanks for any help or thoughts...

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:46:58 AM UTC-6 a...@qubes-os.org wrote:

> On 12/31/21 2:40 PM, Scat wrote:
> > Thank you all, appreciate the feedback and happy new year to some!
> > 
> > Excuse the layman question but I assume if I install 4.1rc3, when 4.1 
> rolls
> > outit is simply an upgrade?
> > 
>
> It depends on the nature of any updates, but that seems like the most 
> likely outcome right now. In general, the final release candidate of a 
> series (whichever one that might be) is ultimately declared to be the 
> stable release. However, it's possible that a clean reinstallation may 
> be required from one release candidate to the next (though that's less 
> common and rather unlikely at this stage of the R4.1-rc series).
>
> -- 
> Andrew David Wong
> Community Manager
> The Qubes OS Project
> https://www.qubes-os.org
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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Scat]

Just installed 4.1rc3 onto a Carbon X1(5th G)...went well. No major 
glitches...I think I am good but had a few questions:

1)I ran, a simple test I was advised to do: qubes-hcl-report AppVM  (Name 
of "AppVM" I was running)

Results you want:
HVM: Active
I/O MMU: Active
HAP/SLAT: Yes
TPM: Device not found <---Is this Anti-Evil Maid" ?
Remapping: Yes

2) I also ran: sudo xl dmesg|grep VT-d  (Thats a small “L” and a “|” 
Shift+\)
Results you want:
XEN Intel VT-d iommu 0 supported page sizes: 4kB
XEN Intel VT-d iommu 1 supported page sizes: 4kB
XEN Intel VT-d Snoop Control not enabled
XEN Intel VT-d Dom0 DMA Passthrough not enabled
XEN Intel VT-d Queued Invalidation enabled
XEN Intel VT-d Interrupt Remapping enabled

Post Interupt not enabled  On 12/31/21 2:40 PM, Scat wrote:
> > Thank you all, appreciate the feedback and happy new year to some!
> > 
> > Excuse the layman question but I assume if I install 4.1rc3, when 4.1 
> rolls
> > outit is simply an upgrade?
> > 
>
> It depends on the nature of any updates, but that seems like the most 
> likely outcome right now. In general, the final release candidate of a 
> series (whichever one that might be) is ultimately declared to be the 
> stable release. However, it's possible that a clean reinstallation may 
> be required from one release candidate to the next (though that's less 
> common and rather unlikely at this stage of the R4.1-rc series).
>
> -- 
> Andrew David Wong
> Community Manager
> The Qubes OS Project
> https://www.qubes-os.org
>

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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Andrew David Wong]

On 12/31/21 2:40 PM, Scat wrote:

Thank you all, appreciate the feedback and happy new year to some!

Excuse the layman question but I assume if I install 4.1rc3, when 4.1 rolls
outit is simply an upgrade?



It depends on the nature of any updates, but that seems like the most 
likely outcome right now. In general, the final release candidate of a 
series (whichever one that might be) is ultimately declared to be the 
stable release. However, it's possible that a clean reinstallation may 
be required from one release candidate to the next (though that's less 
common and rather unlikely at this stage of the R4.1-rc series).


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https://www.qubes-os.org

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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Scat]

Thank you all, appreciate the feedback and happy new year to some!

Excuse the layman question but I assume if I install 4.1rc3, when 4.1 rolls 
outit is simply an upgrade? 

Wishing every one the best 2022...
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:50:14 AM UTC-6 Ulrich Windl wrote:

> On 12/29/21 12:20 PM, TheGardner wrote:
> > If you want to get the lastest version, just install/upgrade to 4.1rc3. 
> > This version is already working for most of the things and I'm sure, it 
> > will work for your daily things also. I wouldn't bother with 4.0.4 any 
> > more at this point of stage.
>
> Actually for a "release candidate" I'm expecting that most things do 
> work. ;-)
> ...
>
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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Ulrich Windl]

On 12/29/21 12:20 PM, TheGardner wrote:
If you want to get the lastest version, just install/upgrade to 4.1rc3. 
This version is already working for most of the things and I'm sure, it 
will work for your daily things also. I wouldn't bother with 4.0.4 any 
more at this point of stage.


Actually for a "release candidate" I'm expecting that most things do 
work. ;-)

...

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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.1-rc3 has been released!

[Ulrich Windl]

On 12/29/21 3:34 AM, Scat wrote:
...
(PS Just donated before year end to the Qubes project...keep going 
developers and community! You do great stuff!)

...

Me too ;-)

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