RE: QWS List Small midi keyboard

[Nicole Massey]

Do you want full sized keys? If so, there are various keyboards from M-Audio, 
the model name ending with 25, that will serve. There are also mini-key 
options, but a lot of folks don't like using those because they can't get 
adjusted to the key size and finger spacing.

But what you're looking for does exist.
Nicole


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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Williams
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 9:39 AM
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Subject: QWS List Small midi keyboard 

Hi All I have a keyboard that, because of lack of space, I have to put it away 
every time I’m not using it. Does anyone know of a small, two or three octave, 
keyboard that I could plug into my laptop just to get some ideas down 
occasionally without getting my main keyboard out? i’m sure there must be 
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RE: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

[Nicole Massey]

Most often, the very end of the manual.

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 8:15 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

Unfortunately, Session  horns pro does not appear to have a midi implementation 
chart. I’ve done a few different web searches trying to find one and even the 
manual for it does not contain it.  Cannot seem to find it for the Broadway 
band from fable sounds either. Where on earth do they hide these things?  

God bless!
Seth

On Feb 17, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

I suspect what I'm about to say is what our list owner did, but have you dug 
into the MIDI Implementation Chart yet? This is where you can find some useful 
stuff about how it saves its data.
Nicole
-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 10:54 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

I wonder about the Fable sound libraries. I’ve listened to the demo tracks, and 
they seem like they’ve covered just about everything under the sun, which is 
probably why it’s so expensive. The real question is how accessible is it, and 
will I be able to access all the articulations?  It is available for Kontakt, 
but there was no mention of NKS compatibility from what I could see. 
They also mentioned in the description that it’s fully compatible with notation 
software. Of course, that’s not something I really deal with on a regular 
basis; I compose all my film score cues in logic or QWS depending on what I’m 
doing.  
In the meantime, I think I might do some more playing around with session horns 
as that’s what I’ve got, and see if maybe there’s something I’ve overlooked.

God bless!
Seth

On Feb 16, 2022, at 10:31 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

This has been something I've wanted for a very long time -- a decent source for 
sampled/PM horns. As a player of all the brass and with some ability to play 
woodwinds, I've always found just about everything out there to be substandard. 
Mute options never go deep enough for me, the ornaments (especially jazz ones) 
don't come anywhere close, and some of the tricks like getting different tone 
colors by using alternate fingerings never enter the designers' minds.
Now, to get this on topic, the other big problem is MIDI implementation. There 
are so many cool options for doing specific things using controller data alone. 
Nothing of this probably requires high definition controllers, so it can be 
simple switching. (okay, there are options for cup mutes that can be adjusted 
because the cup screws on/off, and how in the plunger is on a Harmon mute is 
another variable, but neither of these need more than 128 values) I've been 
playing with the range of controllers available to a GS instrument, and even 
with that small set there's so much sound modification possible. But for some 
reason I never find it aimed toward brass. And though this is even more rare, 
it'd be great if it was either a driver or a stand-alone or had multiple 
options, because VST stuff always seems kind of kludge to me, at least in QWS.
Nicole

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 12:20 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

Thanks, all, for your input. 
I have tried all the keyswitches, and none of them have the shake articulation 
assigned to them.  I watched a YouTube video about using session horns, and 
apparently you can get the shake articulation, if you have sight and can use 
the mouse.  Nope, sorry, I’ll just have to invest in a more accessible sound 
library, and yes, one that does sound a little bit better.  Someone on the 
MOAccess list pointed me to this:
https://fablesounds.com/broadway-big-band/
Sounds amazing and it said to work with Kontakt, but so so expensive.  I’ll 
also look into the ones Andre suggested. Many thanks!


God bless!
Seth

On Feb 16, 2022, at 9:50 PM, Andre Louis mailto:onj.lo...@googlemail.com> > wrote:


Hi. The Session Horns key switches at c0 (or basically lowest C you can reach 
after octave-shifting) should help.
If you don't care for Session Horns, try ProjectSAM Swing! And Swing More 
libraries, which may offer better Jazz sounds anyway.
Personally, I think they do, and they play nicer in my opinion. I own both.

Not relevant to this list however.

- Original Message - From: "Nicole Massey" mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> >
To: "QWS list" mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 3:33 AM
Subject: RE: QWS List Session Horns alternative:


Is there any way to drop these in using any kind of MIDI data? If so then all 
you need to do is save them to a file and open the file to copy and paste (in 
the ma

RE: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

[Nicole Massey]

I suspect what I'm about to say is what our list owner did, but have you dug 
into the MIDI Implementation Chart yet? This is where you can find some useful 
stuff about how it saves its data.
Nicole
-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 10:54 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

I wonder about the Fable sound libraries. I’ve listened to the demo tracks, and 
they seem like they’ve covered just about everything under the sun, which is 
probably why it’s so expensive. The real question is how accessible is it, and 
will I be able to access all the articulations?  It is available for Kontakt, 
but there was no mention of NKS compatibility from what I could see. 
They also mentioned in the description that it’s fully compatible with notation 
software. Of course, that’s not something I really deal with on a regular 
basis; I compose all my film score cues in logic or QWS depending on what I’m 
doing.  
In the meantime, I think I might do some more playing around with session horns 
as that’s what I’ve got, and see if maybe there’s something I’ve overlooked.

God bless!
Seth

On Feb 16, 2022, at 10:31 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

This has been something I've wanted for a very long time -- a decent source for 
sampled/PM horns. As a player of all the brass and with some ability to play 
woodwinds, I've always found just about everything out there to be substandard. 
Mute options never go deep enough for me, the ornaments (especially jazz ones) 
don't come anywhere close, and some of the tricks like getting different tone 
colors by using alternate fingerings never enter the designers' minds.
Now, to get this on topic, the other big problem is MIDI implementation. There 
are so many cool options for doing specific things using controller data alone. 
Nothing of this probably requires high definition controllers, so it can be 
simple switching. (okay, there are options for cup mutes that can be adjusted 
because the cup screws on/off, and how in the plunger is on a Harmon mute is 
another variable, but neither of these need more than 128 values) I've been 
playing with the range of controllers available to a GS instrument, and even 
with that small set there's so much sound modification possible. But for some 
reason I never find it aimed toward brass. And though this is even more rare, 
it'd be great if it was either a driver or a stand-alone or had multiple 
options, because VST stuff always seems kind of kludge to me, at least in QWS.
Nicole

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 12:20 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

Thanks, all, for your input. 
I have tried all the keyswitches, and none of them have the shake articulation 
assigned to them.  I watched a YouTube video about using session horns, and 
apparently you can get the shake articulation, if you have sight and can use 
the mouse.  Nope, sorry, I’ll just have to invest in a more accessible sound 
library, and yes, one that does sound a little bit better.  Someone on the 
MOAccess list pointed me to this:
https://fablesounds.com/broadway-big-band/
Sounds amazing and it said to work with Kontakt, but so so expensive.  I’ll 
also look into the ones Andre suggested. Many thanks!


God bless!
Seth

On Feb 16, 2022, at 9:50 PM, Andre Louis mailto:onj.lo...@googlemail.com> > wrote:


Hi. The Session Horns key switches at c0 (or basically lowest C you can reach 
after octave-shifting) should help.
If you don't care for Session Horns, try ProjectSAM Swing! And Swing More 
libraries, which may offer better Jazz sounds anyway.
Personally, I think they do, and they play nicer in my opinion. I own both.

Not relevant to this list however.

- Original Message - From: "Nicole Massey" mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> >
To: "QWS list" mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 3:33 AM
Subject: RE: QWS List Session Horns alternative:


Is there any way to drop these in using any kind of MIDI data? If so then all 
you need to do is save them to a file and open the file to copy and paste (in 
the main file) the articulation. Things like shakes, flutter tounging, doits, 
and even falls should be rare enough this shouldn't be too much of a headache 
to drop them in every once in a while. But more to the point, if there's no way 
to designate these articulations through MIDI, Music XML, or other notation 
friendly formats then it's going to be impossible to have these in the parts so 
horn players can play them. And anything using program change is going to be 
opaque to notation programs too, which would rule out the keyboards you 
mentioned. None of this matters if you're going to not use real horns.

The other important consider

RE: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

[Nicole Massey]

This has been something I've wanted for a very long time -- a decent source for 
sampled/PM horns. As a player of all the brass and with some ability to play 
woodwinds, I've always found just about everything out there to be substandard. 
Mute options never go deep enough for me, the ornaments (especially jazz ones) 
don't come anywhere close, and some of the tricks like getting different tone 
colors by using alternate fingerings never enter the designers' minds.
Now, to get this on topic, the other big problem is MIDI implementation. There 
are so many cool options for doing specific things using controller data alone. 
Nothing of this probably requires high definition controllers, so it can be 
simple switching. (okay, there are options for cup mutes that can be adjusted 
because the cup screws on/off, and how in the plunger is on a Harmon mute is 
another variable, but neither of these need more than 128 values) I've been 
playing with the range of controllers available to a GS instrument, and even 
with that small set there's so much sound modification possible. But for some 
reason I never find it aimed toward brass. And though this is even more rare, 
it'd be great if it was either a driver or a stand-alone or had multiple 
options, because VST stuff always seems kind of kludge to me, at least in QWS.
Nicole

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 12:20 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

Thanks, all, for your input. 
I have tried all the keyswitches, and none of them have the shake articulation 
assigned to them.  I watched a YouTube video about using session horns, and 
apparently you can get the shake articulation, if you have sight and can use 
the mouse.  Nope, sorry, I’ll just have to invest in a more accessible sound 
library, and yes, one that does sound a little bit better.  Someone on the 
MOAccess list pointed me to this:
https://fablesounds.com/broadway-big-band/
Sounds amazing and it said to work with Kontakt, but so so expensive.  I’ll 
also look into the ones Andre suggested. Many thanks!


God bless!
Seth

On Feb 16, 2022, at 9:50 PM, Andre Louis mailto:onj.lo...@googlemail.com> > wrote:


Hi. The Session Horns key switches at c0 (or basically lowest C you can reach 
after octave-shifting) should help.
If you don't care for Session Horns, try ProjectSAM Swing! And Swing More 
libraries, which may offer better Jazz sounds anyway.
Personally, I think they do, and they play nicer in my opinion. I own both.

Not relevant to this list however.

- Original Message - From: "Nicole Massey" mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> >
To: "QWS list" mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 3:33 AM
Subject: RE: QWS List Session Horns alternative:


Is there any way to drop these in using any kind of MIDI data? If so then all 
you need to do is save them to a file and open the file to copy and paste (in 
the main file) the articulation. Things like shakes, flutter tounging, doits, 
and even falls should be rare enough this shouldn't be too much of a headache 
to drop them in every once in a while. But more to the point, if there's no way 
to designate these articulations through MIDI, Music XML, or other notation 
friendly formats then it's going to be impossible to have these in the parts so 
horn players can play them. And anything using program change is going to be 
opaque to notation programs too, which would rule out the keyboards you 
mentioned. None of this matters if you're going to not use real horns.

The other important consideration is that the shakes are different between 
trumpets and trombones/saxophones. Trumpet shakes tend to be more volume based 
than pitch based, while trombone shakes are 100% pitch, and sax shakes can 
involve either variation depending on what the section leader decides. So if 
you're going for a realistic performance the sound source needs to take the 
different performance methods into consideration. Note also that back when I 
was playing in jazz ensembles we tended to strike out these types of 
articulations instead of playing them, because they can clutter things up a lot.

Nicole

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com>  
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth Lowman
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:43 PM
To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
Subject: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

Hello all.
Subject says it all. I am thoroughly disappointed with session horns pro, as 
while it is somewhat KK accessible, there appears to be  no way to access the 
additional articulations that are supposed to be available,   But that are, 
stupidly enough, not included in  any  of the presets, for example brass 
shakes.  I did some searching online to see if I could figure out how to access 
t

RE: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

[Nicole Massey]

Is there any way to drop these in using any kind of MIDI data? If so then all 
you need to do is save them to a file and open the file to copy and paste (in 
the main file) the articulation. Things like shakes, flutter tounging, doits, 
and even falls should be rare enough this shouldn't be too much of a headache 
to drop them in every once in a while. But more to the point, if there's no way 
to designate these articulations through MIDI, Music XML, or other notation 
friendly formats then it's going to be impossible to have these in the parts so 
horn players can play them. And anything using program change is going to be 
opaque to notation programs too, which would rule out the keyboards you 
mentioned. None of this matters if you're going to not use real horns.

The other important consideration is that the shakes are different between 
trumpets and trombones/saxophones. Trumpet shakes tend to be more volume based 
than pitch based, while trombone shakes are 100% pitch, and sax shakes can 
involve either variation depending on what the section leader decides. So if 
you're going for a realistic performance the sound source needs to take the 
different performance methods into consideration. Note also that back when I 
was playing in jazz ensembles we tended to strike out these types of 
articulations instead of playing them, because they can clutter things up a lot.

Nicole

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:43 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Session Horns alternative:

Hello all.  
Subject says it all. I am thoroughly disappointed with session horns pro, as 
while it is somewhat KK accessible, there appears to be  no way to access the 
additional articulations that are supposed to be available,   But that are, 
stupidly enough, not included in  any  of the presets, for example brass 
shakes.  I did some searching online to see if I could figure out how to access 
these articulation, but it appears you cannot do so without using the stupid 
mouse, and being blind I cannot do that. Does anybody know of any workarounds 
for this?  I need these additional articulation for some of my jazz 
composition, and if I cannot access them without sighted assistance  then 
what’s the point of having this plug-in in the first place?  May as well just 
spend the additional money on a Tyros 5 or a Montage  and have access to what I 
need with velocity switches and control change messages.  
If there is no workaround, are there any other jazz horn plugins that are fully 
accessible?

God bless!
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QWS List Q: LoopMIDI

[Nicole Massey]

Hey folks,
Something isn't' working in my LoopMIDI setup. I send to the correct port,
and Proteus VX is set to that port, but I get a big bag of nothing. The same
goes for FM7. Anyone got a tutorial in setting this up and getting it to
work?
Thanks for any help you can provide,
Nicole

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QWS List Strange QWS issue

[Nicole Massey]

Hey, folks,
I'm having a bizarre problem with QWS. It started six months or so ago.
The system is Windows XP Service Pack 3 with all updates to end of support.
I haven't had any problems with it until this year, and the machine doesn't
get on the internet for anything but CDDB. (which seems to have gone away,
at least the server I was using, as I can't hit it from any machine)

When I open up the track properties it's been losing data. For instance,
saving instrument or volume or pan data sometimes changes the track to 0. It
was an occasional thing at first, but it's becoming a more of an issue. I've
also had this problem where all instrument, (including patch and bank
values) Volume, Pan, Reverb, and Chorus values are coming up as the lowest
value, most often -1. However, loading the track and starting it gets all
the sounds right. (most of the time, I've had a couple of times where it'd
lose this before loading, so I'd get something strange) It's all tracks in a
piece, and inputting the values I want doesn't persist -- if I open up the
track properties again the values won't be there.

I'm thinking something, maybe something besides the QWS executable, is
corrupted and needs a reload. Note that note, tempo, velocity, and tempo
data isn't getting messed with, it's the access to the track properties.

So, anyone else experienced this? And any ideas what to do to fix it? Let's
leave the "upgrade the OS" suggestions out of it, because nothing newer is
going to work on this laptop, and the machine is functional still. I'm
hoping someone will have an idea what's up.

All the best,
Nicole

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RE: QWS List Implementing Midi controller numbers

[Nicole Massey]

Brian, 
Okay, this can either be somewhat simple or a major pain.

Everything goes back to the MIDI Implementation Chart on this kind of stuff.
Check it for your sound source and find out what controllers it supports.
The one you're looking for is CC73, though the device might do attack time a
different way. This is easiest, because it will let you play with it using
your mod wheel remapped in QWS to get the value you want. If that isn't an
option look to Non-Registered Parameter Numbers and find out if your device
will let you change envelope settings using NRPN values. This will involve
three to four MIDI messages, 99 for your broad parameter group, 98 for the
specific parameter, 6 for the value you want to send, then maybe 38 for the
fine value, though many parameters don't need 16,384 levels in the parameter
so this last one gets left off. This will be something more of a pain to
play with, and it'll take some experimentation.

If your sound source does neither of these things then it gets ugly,
possibly mean and ugly, because as you suspected you're going to need to do
volume (CC7) or expression (CC11) swells to take the bite off the attack. If
your goal is to sharpen the attack then it's even more of a mess because
you're going to need to do fast swells from 0 to whatever is your target to
clip the front of the envelope and then offset the track a bit back so the
notes hit where you want them to sound in the track. Unless you're really
good at using this technique and your timing is excellent  you won't be able
to quantize anything either so you might get sloppy timing on the notes. So
hope CC73 is on your chart and you can do it the simplest way. The other
option is to use another clarinet sound that fits what you're looking for.

I know this is a bit esoteric in part of it. Did I get fuzzy anywhere and
need to do more 'splaining?

Best of luck,

Nyyki

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
Brian Williams
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2021 12:58 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Implementing Midi controller numbers

I have a clarinet track created. I need to change the attack  on each note,
can this be done with midi controller numbers? Would I have to do each
individual note or can I do this as the whole track? can anyone give me any
tips on how this is done?
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RE: QWS List midi yoke will not install

[Nicole Massey]

Anyone found where LoopMIDI hides its configuration? I'd rather edit it that 
way if possible instead of frustrating my around their interface.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Simon 
Jaeger
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 12:30 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List midi yoke will not install

The only thing left to try is uninstalling the program completely, then 
reinstalling. I'm guessing it won't work though. LoopMIDI is free and I can 
confirm it does work up to latest Windows 10: If anyone else is using similar 
software, it would be interesting to know.

The only problem I've seen with this particular one is that it seems to somehow 
conflict with CoolSoft virtual MIDI synth, so if you use this software to run 
soundfonts you might find that only one of them can run at a time.

Link to LoopMIDI: https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html


On 7/18/2021 8:01 AM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I was running Win 7. It seems as though Loop Midi is more complicated 
> and it intrudes itself at odd times.
>
>
> Midi yoke is the first program which is fussy enough to stop the 
> installation when confronted with a UAC message.
>
>
> Joe
>
> On 7/17/2021 8:44 PM, Simon Jaeger wrote:
>> First, I'm not sure if that program still works on Windows 10, as I 
>> haven't seen any news of it since WIndows XP days. There is a pretty 
>> good alternative called LoopMIDI, which is definitely updated and 
>> allows you to assign custom names and settings for each virtual port.
>> If the below doesn't work, I suggest giving this a look.
>>
>> One way you can run the installer without a UAC prompt is to go to 
>> the context menu and choose "run as administrator". This will 
>> essentially grant the program administrative rights before it asks 
>> for them, which will prevent it from doing so at all. If anything is 
>> going to stop the install from being interrupted, it should be that.
>>
>>
>> On 7/17/2021 5:40 PM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
>>> Good evening,
>>>
>>>
>>> The subject more or less tells the story.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Midi yoke program starts to install. The installation is 
>>> interrupted by UAC and I'm asked if I really want to continue. I 
>>> agree to continue, but the Midiyoke installer tells me that the 
>>> installation was interrupted and i must start over.
>>>
>>>
>>> This obviously a closed circle. How can I break into it and allow 
>>> the program to finish the installation?
>>>
>>>
>>> I had no idea I'd have to re-examine all this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe G.
>>>
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RE: QWS List triton setup

[Nicole Massey]

Step 1 in this is to get the attachment from the email I sent to the list with 
the Triton Rack definition file and put it in your QWS folder under Program 
Files on your hard drive so QWS can find the file when you follow Seth's 
instructions. But the rest of this is spot on.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:21 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List triton setup

What you need to do is go to your options menu by hitting alt o, and then i for 
instruments. You should be presented with a list of ports, so arrow down until 
you find the one for your Triton, then hit tab. You should now be presented 
with a list of instrument lists. Arrow down until you find the one for the 
Triton Rack, then tab over to the OK button and hit enter. Now correct me if 
I’m wrong, but after you do this, you may need to restart QWS for the changes 
to take effect.

God bless!
Seth

On Jul 15, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:

Nicole, as I just wrote to Seth, I now get sound from the Triton when I play on 
the controler. When I try selecting the Triton Rack from the instruments in the 
QWS folder, all I see is the port name.


You mentioned a nconnection between the port and the instrument list. I don't 
know how to make that connection. Is that why I can't see any of the lists?


Joe

> On 7/14/2021 10:18 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
> Start with 0.  Or when you get any response from the Triton rack set that 
> port's ini file to the attached Triton Rack instrument definition file. (It's 
> a port from the Cakewalk definition file for Korg products)
> 
> Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
> Giovanelli
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 8:01 PM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: Re: QWS List triton setup
> 
> Well Seth, I did this. What I don't know is what bank to set. I could have 
> left that as -1 and hoped for the best..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Working is more difficult because I do not know the designations on the new 
> box and have nobody here to read them. I'll rectify that tomorrow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joe G.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/14/2021 8:20 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:
> 
> 
>Well you don’t really use the set all ports option, what you do is you 
> create a track, using control insert, or alt K and then enter.  Then, you hit 
> enter on the track, and you should be able to tab through the dialogue and 
> one of the options is port. Once you find that option, set it to your midi 
> interface, whatever it’s name is, and hit enter. Then try playing the 
> keyboard and see if you hear sound from your Triton.  Here is a link to a 
> tutorial on the QWS website that goes through the steps in more detail.
>http://www.andrelouis.com/qws/dlaudio.htm
>You’ll want to listen too tutorial two, which talks about setting up a 
> Keyboard with QWS.
>
>
>
>
>God bless!
>Seth
> 
>On Jul 14, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Joe Giovanelli  <mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
> 
>Hi, Seth,
> 
>
>
> 
>The Rack itself operates as it should. The demos play. I connected the 
> output of the controller keyboard directly into the Triton and I heard notes 
> as I played them. I could change instrulments on the controller and the sound 
> changed.
> 
>
>
> 
>I had forgotten to press "multi." I did that and nothing changed.
> 
>
>
> 
>I checked the ports I should use and unchecked those I shouldn't use. I 
> can do that via the Options but the track menu still didn't see anything.
> 
>
>
> 
>Joe G.
>
> 
>On 7/14/2021 4:23 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>
> 
>One thing to try: there should be a way you can test to make sure 
> you’re getting sound out of the Triton, such as a built-In demo song, or 
> something of that nature.  That would be a good place to start, as this is a 
> module so you can’t just play a keyboard to make sure you’re getting sound.  
> That’ll make the Midi conundrum somewhat  easier to solve.  Then, make sure 
> your Triton is in the right mode: I believe its called multi mode.  I also 
> found the Triton rack manuals online:
>
>https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/manual/1/220/1663/
>The one you’ll want is the basic guide, and there is a link to it 
> below the license agreement.  This manual also explains how to play the demo 
&g

RE: QWS List triton setup

[Nicole Massey]

There's a menu item that lets you designate what definition list is used for 
that port. I attached the Triton Rack list to my prior email, so that'll give 
you your definitions.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:55 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List triton setup

Nicole, as I just wrote to Seth, I now get sound from the Triton when I play on 
the controler. When I try selecting the Triton Rack from the instruments in the 
QWS folder, all I see is the port name.


You mentioned a nconnection between the port and the instrument list. I don't 
know how to make that connection. Is that why I can't see any of the lists?


Joe

On 7/14/2021 10:18 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
> Start with 0.  Or when you get any response from the Triton rack set 
> that port's ini file to the attached Triton Rack instrument definition 
> file. (It's a port from the Cakewalk definition file for Korg 
> products)
>
> Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
> Of Joe Giovanelli
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 8:01 PM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: Re: QWS List triton setup
>
> Well Seth, I did this. What I don't know is what bank to set. I could have 
> left that as -1 and hoped for the best..
>
>
>
>
> Working is more difficult because I do not know the designations on 
> the new box and have nobody here to read them. I'll rectify that 
> tomorrow
>
>
>
>
> Joe G.
>
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/14/2021 8:20 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>
>
>   Well you don’t really use the set all ports option, what you do is you 
> create a track, using control insert, or alt K and then enter.  Then, you hit 
> enter on the track, and you should be able to tab through the dialogue and 
> one of the options is port. Once you find that option, set it to your midi 
> interface, whatever it’s name is, and hit enter. Then try playing the 
> keyboard and see if you hear sound from your Triton.  Here is a link to a 
> tutorial on the QWS website that goes through the steps in more detail.
>   http://www.andrelouis.com/qws/dlaudio.htm
>   You’ll want to listen too tutorial two, which talks about setting up a 
> Keyboard with QWS.
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   God bless!
>   Seth
>
>   On Jul 14, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Joe Giovanelli  <mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>   
>   
>
>   Hi, Seth,
>
>   
>   
>
>   The Rack itself operates as it should. The demos play. I connected the 
> output of the controller keyboard directly into the Triton and I heard notes 
> as I played them. I could change instrulments on the controller and the sound 
> changed.
>
>   
>   
>
>   I had forgotten to press "multi." I did that and nothing changed.
>
>   
>   
>
>   I checked the ports I should use and unchecked those I shouldn't use. I 
> can do that via the Options but the track menu still didn't see anything.
>
>   
>   
>
>   Joe G.
>   
>
>   On 7/14/2021 4:23 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>   
>
>   One thing to try: there should be a way you can test to make 
> sure you’re getting sound out of the Triton, such as a built-In demo song, or 
> something of that nature.  That would be a good place to start, as this is a 
> module so you can’t just play a keyboard to make sure you’re getting sound.  
> That’ll make the Midi conundrum somewhat  easier to solve.  Then, make sure 
> your Triton is in the right mode: I believe its called multi mode.  I also 
> found the Triton rack manuals online:
>   
>   https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/manual/1/220/1663/
>   The one you’ll want is the basic guide, and there is a link to 
> it below the license agreement.  This manual also explains how to play the 
> demo song, as well as how to hook up the Triton to the computer via midi.
>   
>   
>   God bless!
>   Seth
>
>   On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Joe Giovanelli 
> mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>   
>   
>   Good afternoon List,
>   
>   
>   I now have the Triton rack and the USB to MIDI adapter.
>   
>   
>   The adapter has two sets of In and out MIDI jacks. This is not

RE: QWS List triton setup

[Nicole Massey]

Start with 0.  Or when you get any response from the Triton rack set that 
port's ini file to the attached Triton Rack instrument definition file. (It's a 
port from the Cakewalk definition file for Korg products)

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 8:01 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List triton setup

Well Seth, I did this. What I don't know is what bank to set. I could have left 
that as -1 and hoped for the best..




Working is more difficult because I do not know the designations on the new box 
and have nobody here to read them. I'll rectify that tomorrow




Joe G.




.













On 7/14/2021 8:20 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:


Well you don’t really use the set all ports option, what you do is you 
create a track, using control insert, or alt K and then enter.  Then, you hit 
enter on the track, and you should be able to tab through the dialogue and one 
of the options is port. Once you find that option, set it to your midi 
interface, whatever it’s name is, and hit enter. Then try playing the keyboard 
and see if you hear sound from your Triton.  Here is a link to a tutorial on 
the QWS website that goes through the steps in more detail. 
http://www.andrelouis.com/qws/dlaudio.htm
You’ll want to listen too tutorial two, which talks about setting up a 
Keyboard with QWS.  

 


God bless! 
Seth

On Jul 14, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Joe Giovanelli mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi, Seth,




The Rack itself operates as it should. The demos play. I connected the 
output of the controller keyboard directly into the Triton and I heard notes as 
I played them. I could change instrulments on the controller and the sound 
changed.




I had forgotten to press "multi." I did that and nothing changed.




I checked the ports I should use and unchecked those I shouldn't use. I 
can do that via the Options but the track menu still didn't see anything.




Joe G.


On 7/14/2021 4:23 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:


One thing to try: there should be a way you can test to make 
sure you’re getting sound out of the Triton, such as a built-In demo song, or 
something of that nature.  That would be a good place to start, as this is a 
module so you can’t just play a keyboard to make sure you’re getting sound.  
That’ll make the Midi conundrum somewhat  easier to solve.  Then, make sure 
your Triton is in the right mode: I believe its called multi mode.  I also 
found the Triton rack manuals online:

https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/manual/1/220/1663/
The one you’ll want is the basic guide, and there is a link to 
it below the license agreement.  This manual also explains how to play the demo 
song, as well as how to hook up the Triton to the computer via midi.  


God bless! 
Seth

On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Joe Giovanelli 
mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Good afternoon List,


I now have the Triton rack and the USB to MIDI adapter.


The adapter has two sets of In and out MIDI jacks. This is not 
a Merge box.


The keyboard connects to the computer. Another USB Nport on 
that computer connects to the USB port on the Box. To this point I don't have 
the Triton plugged in because I don't know which jack represents which port.


I run QWS and I see all expected ports. I check the keyboard 
out. I see In and Out ports on the box. I select an output port.


At this point I try the rack in all ports on the box. Key 
presses on the controller produce no sound from the nTriton.


I go to the track menu and try to set all ports. QWS says that 
that option is disabled.


I don't get that!  Does all this never and?


I need your ideas! Thank you for reading this.


Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY

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inst_Korg Triton Rack.ini
Description: Binary data

RE: QWS List triton setup

[Nicole Massey]

Are you set to the right port on the interface within QWS?

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:29 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List triton setup

Hi, Seth,




The Rack itself operates as it should. The demos play. I connected the output 
of the controller keyboard directly into the Triton and I heard notes as I 
played them. I could change instrulments on the controller and the sound 
changed.




I had forgotten to press "multi." I did that and nothing changed.




I checked the ports I should use and unchecked those I shouldn't use. I can do 
that via the Options but the track menu still didn't see anything.




Joe G.


On 7/14/2021 4:23 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:


One thing to try: there should be a way you can test to make sure 
you’re getting sound out of the Triton, such as a built-In demo song, or 
something of that nature.  That would be a good place to start, as this is a 
module so you can’t just play a keyboard to make sure you’re getting sound.  
That’ll make the Midi conundrum somewhat  easier to solve.  Then, make sure 
your Triton is in the right mode: I believe its called multi mode.  I also 
found the Triton rack manuals online:

https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/manual/1/220/1663/
The one you’ll want is the basic guide, and there is a link to it below 
the license agreement.  This manual also explains how to play the demo song, as 
well as how to hook up the Triton to the computer via midi.  


God bless! 
Seth

On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Joe Giovanelli mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Good afternoon List,


I now have the Triton rack and the USB to MIDI adapter.


The adapter has two sets of In and out MIDI jacks. This is not a Merge 
box.


The keyboard connects to the computer. Another USB Nport on that 
computer connects to the USB port on the Box. To this point I don't have the 
Triton plugged in because I don't know which jack represents which port.


I run QWS and I see all expected ports. I check the keyboard out. I see 
In and Out ports on the box. I select an output port.


At this point I try the rack in all ports on the box. Key presses on 
the controller produce no sound from the nTriton.


I go to the track menu and try to set all ports. QWS says that that 
option is disabled.


I don't get that!  Does all this never and?


I need your ideas! Thank you for reading this.


Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY

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RE: QWS List QWS suddenly refuses to start

[Nicole Massey]

Patience. QWS isn't abandoned. James has just been focused on something else 
for a bit. He's got a long list of suggestions for improvements. (I know, I 
wrote several of them from experiences with other sequencers and regular use 
over time) But it's a one person shop.
What would help is as much information as possible about what's happening. I 
prefer to let those having the problem ask elsewhere because they know what's 
going on with their system and the problem and they can implement fixes 
suggested far faster than I can. So it'd be good for someone having this 
problem to go to one of the What's App groups or the Midimag lists to ask there.
And though some programs can run into snags with later operating systems, 
that's not always the case. For example, Cardfile, a Windows 3.1 accessory, 
still runs on Windows 7 and I suspect will still run on Windows 10. Hammerhead, 
a beats creation program, also still runs fine too. It's not a universal truth 
that legacy software is always abandonware.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Carlos 
Gonzalez
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2021 3:49 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List QWS suddenly refuses to start

It's painfully obvious that QWS is getting old. And, newer versions of Windows 
don't like old software very much!

Since QWS is not actively maintained. I guess its time to find a new music/MIDI 
creation software. But! REAPER is not the answer because it is too complicated 
to use. And, there is no real good simple alternative to QWS to be found!

It's very sad to see a good piece of software grow long in the tooth!

Developers of open source software have the very bad habit of falling out of 
love with their software/projects! So, QWS will at some point stop running on 
any computer. So, once again blind people get kicked in the teeth!

Sorry this is not helpful at all. But, maybe, at some point someone who wants 
to keep QWS alive will read this and decide to keep QWS going!


On 7/5/2021 9:41 AM, Richard Emling wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Its becoming more and more mysterious:
> After deleting the QWS.INI file, QWS starts once with the message, that
> it has no configuration and will use the standard one.
> Then a new QWS.INI is created.
> When closing QWS and trying to reopen it, it again shows its behaviour
> of imediately closing again.
> I already tried to install it to another path, just to make sure, that
> there are no folder rights conflicts, still not opening.
> Well, for the moment, I have no special configuration worth saving, but
> this can't be the way, deleting the QWS.INI over and over.
>
> Thankfull for more ideas,
>
> Richard
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RE: QWS List QWS suddenly refuses to start

[Nicole Massey]

The variable here is Windows 10, because this doesn't seem to happen with 
earlier OS versions.
Have you tried asking about this on other blind music lists?

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Emling
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2021 11:42 AM
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Subject: Re: QWS List QWS suddenly refuses to start

Hi.

Its becoming more and more mysterious:
After deleting the QWS.INI file, QWS starts once with the message, that it has 
no configuration and will use the standard one.
Then a new QWS.INI is created.
When closing QWS and trying to reopen it, it again shows its behaviour of 
imediately closing again.
I already tried to install it to another path, just to make sure, that there 
are no folder rights conflicts, still not opening.
Well, for the moment, I have no special configuration worth saving, but this 
can't be the way, deleting the QWS.INI over and over.

Thankfull for more ideas,

Richard
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RE: QWS List Accessing instrument list

[Nicole Massey]

No problem. I've dealt with some pretty complex definition list stuff. (my 
Nyyki'sBigMap.ini file has over 19,000 entries in it) I like finding things the 
system snags on because that way I can fix them and know a bit more about what 
can foul one of these up.
Glad you got it worked out.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Williams
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 12:50 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Accessing instrument list

Hi Nicole, if you haven’t seen my most recent message, I’ve solved the problem. 
Stupidly when I went in to choose the instrument list I forgot to change the 
port to Yamaha. I feel such a fool. But, it’s usually the most simple and 
obvious thing that is the solution. Hope I haven’t fried your brain. Thanks for 
trying to help.
Brian

On 4 Jul 2021, at 6:40 pm, Nicole Massey  wrote:

Those look correctly formatted. Does it use high-definition bank numbers? If 
not you'll need to multiply all your banks by 128. But that shouldn't affect 
the name list. From what you've said you've loaded it to the correct port, so 
that shouldn't be a problem either. What did you edit this in? Maybe there are 
some hidden characters messing up the list. Try this: Pull up the track data 
and go to the patch list window. Type h and see what happens.

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Williams
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 10:31 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Accessing instrumentlist

Hi, here is an example of a couple of lines.
-1,7,112,harpsichord
-1,4,112,honkytonk


Brian
On 4 Jul 2021, at 4:06 pm, Nicole Massey  wrote:

So you've got this:
-1 (or the channel you're playing it from),(bank number in high definition 
format),(patch number),patch name Right?

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Williams
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 7:01 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Accessing instrumentlist

Hi all I have recently bought a Yamaha PRS-E463. I have transcribed the 
instrument list into the Qws format. Each part is separated by a comma and each 
instrument voice starts on a separate line. It says it loaded correctly into 
QWS. However, when I create a new song, I press enter, select the track number, 
select the keyboard in the ports, I then move to the instrument list. The name 
list doesn’t appear, just the program numbers list. Can anyone suggest what I 
have missed. 
each section of the list is separated by a comma, and each instrument voice 
starts on a New line.
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RE: QWS List Accessing instrument list

[Nicole Massey]

Those look correctly formatted. Does it use high-definition bank numbers? If 
not you'll need to multiply all your banks by 128. But that shouldn't affect 
the name list. From what you've said you've loaded it to the correct port, so 
that shouldn't be a problem either. What did you edit this in? Maybe there are 
some hidden characters messing up the list. Try this: Pull up the track data 
and go to the patch list window. Type h and see what happens.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Williams
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 10:31 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Accessing instrumentlist

Hi, here is an example of a couple of lines.
-1,7,112,harpsichord
-1,4,112,honkytonk


Brian
On 4 Jul 2021, at 4:06 pm, Nicole Massey  wrote:

So you've got this:
-1 (or the channel you're playing it from),(bank number in high definition 
format),(patch number),patch name Right?

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Williams
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 7:01 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Accessing instrumentlist

Hi all I have recently bought a Yamaha PRS-E463. I have transcribed the 
instrument list into the Qws format. Each part is separated by a comma and each 
instrument voice starts on a separate line. It says it loaded correctly into 
QWS. However, when I create a new song, I press enter, select the track number, 
select the keyboard in the ports, I then move to the instrument list. The name 
list doesn’t appear, just the program numbers list. Can anyone suggest what I 
have missed. 
each section of the list is separated by a comma, and each instrument voice 
starts on a New line.
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RE: QWS List Accessing instrumentlist

[Nicole Massey]

So you've got this:
-1 (or the channel you're playing it from),(bank number in high definition 
format),(patch number),patch name
Right?

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Williams
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 7:01 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Accessing instrumentlist

Hi all I have recently bought a Yamaha PRS-E463. I have transcribed the 
instrument list into the Qws format. Each part is separated by a comma and each 
instrument voice starts on a separate line. It says it loaded correctly into 
QWS. However, when I create a new song, I press enter, select the track number, 
select the keyboard in the ports, I then move to the instrument list. The name 
list doesn’t appear, just the program numbers list. Can anyone suggest what I 
have missed. 
each section of the list is separated by a comma, and each instrument voice 
starts on a New line.
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RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

Best to ask a list where folks have done it, as it's clear nobody here has 
worked it out or is watching the list who has.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:30 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

I remember Proteus VX had a hiccup with my Windows 8 machine, something about 
initializing audio drivers, but when I ran it as administrator, it seemed to 
fix the issue. Since it appears there’s no run as administrator option in 
windows 10, I’m curious as to how you would resolve the issue for someone like 
Joe Who is running windows 10.

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

I seem to remember that someone on another blind musician's list has Proteus VX 
working on Windows 10. I think it installed on my Windows 10 laptop too, though 
I haven't use that machine much so far.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Yes that is true. That’s why since I’m not running windows 10, I’ve also been 
using Midi yoke along side it.  Might have to check out the one you’re using if 
I ever upgrade, which, since it appears Proteus VX won’t work on windows 10, 
that is highly doubtful.  At this point I think I’ll stick with my Windows 7 
machine, slow and stupid as it may be at times.  


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Simon Jaeger mailto:si...@simonj.me> > wrote:



Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think LoopBe only allows one port unless you pay 
for it.

This is the one I use and it works on latest Windows 10: 
https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

This is free and you can define as many ports as you want. The only trouble is 
that the list of configured ports is not accessible. Arrow keys will traverse 
the list, but screen-readers can't identify it as a list and won't tell you 
where the cursor lands. You therefore have to do a bit of guess work to 
correctly modify or delete the ports you've created. Since you can still read 
the order of them with something like the JAWS cursor or NVDA flat review, and 
even may be able to mouse click them to select them, this has never been a deal 
breaker for me. It's also the only software of its kind that I've found will 
let you rename the ports. So instead of having to remember that Proteus is on 
MidiYoke 7 or rename it from within QWS, you can just create a new port and 
call it Proteus VX.




On 6/26/2021 9:37 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:


   Also, if midi yoke is giving you too much trouble, here’s another one you 
can try: 
   LoopBe1 virtual midi cable from the following website:
   https://www.nerds.de/en/download.html


   God bless! 
   Seth

   On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Nicole Massey mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> > wrote:
   
   
   This is all a special subset of normal computer stuff, so that's 
understandable that you might not have all the info on what's going on.
   If the interface isn't in the ports list follow Seth's advice about finding 
a driver. Check the options in Proteus VX to find out where it's sending your 
audio. And you'll need MIDIYoke or another virtual MIDI cable to connect with 
the Proteus.
   
   Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com>  
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
   Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:44 AM
   To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
   Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments
   
   I heard there were problems with Hal computers but by this time all such 
deficiencies should have been overcome. Thanks for the warning. I just 
cancelled my order before it shipped out!!
   
   
   I thought I'd see the ports in QWS. I hope that the Rack still works. 
   It's possible that the memory backup battery failed. That's replaceable but 
some memory info would be lost. I'd nhave to remap the unit.
   
   
   If the Triton can't be salvaged, I'd need to go back to Proteus. I can't 
   run that program because it can't initialize the audio. The drivers for 
   that are working as they should.
   
   
   Midiyoke won't load either and I don't remember what the message was.
   
   
   I hope you know that I have used computers for years even though it must 
   look like I'm a rank clutz!
   
   
   Joe G.
   
   
   On 6/25/2021 5:54 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
   
   

   No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid them if 
possible.
   

   You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI interface 
takes care of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS.
   

   
   

   Sent fro

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

I seem to remember that someone on another blind musician's list has Proteus VX 
working on Windows 10. I think it installed on my Windows 10 laptop too, though 
I haven't use that machine much so far.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Yes that is true. That’s why since I’m not running windows 10, I’ve also been 
using Midi yoke along side it.  Might have to check out the one you’re using if 
I ever upgrade, which, since it appears Proteus VX won’t work on windows 10, 
that is highly doubtful.  At this point I think I’ll stick with my Windows 7 
machine, slow and stupid as it may be at times.  


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Simon Jaeger mailto:si...@simonj.me> > wrote:



Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think LoopBe only allows one port unless you pay 
for it.

This is the one I use and it works on latest Windows 10: 
https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

This is free and you can define as many ports as you want. The only trouble is 
that the list of configured ports is not accessible. Arrow keys will traverse 
the list, but screen-readers can't identify it as a list and won't tell you 
where the cursor lands. You therefore have to do a bit of guess work to 
correctly modify or delete the ports you've created. Since you can still read 
the order of them with something like the JAWS cursor or NVDA flat review, and 
even may be able to mouse click them to select them, this has never been a deal 
breaker for me. It's also the only software of its kind that I've found will 
let you rename the ports. So instead of having to remember that Proteus is on 
MidiYoke 7 or rename it from within QWS, you can just create a new port and 
call it Proteus VX.




On 6/26/2021 9:37 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:


Also, if midi yoke is giving you too much trouble, here’s another one 
you can try: 
LoopBe1 virtual midi cable from the following website:
https://www.nerds.de/en/download.html


God bless! 
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Nicole Massey mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> > wrote:


This is all a special subset of normal computer stuff, so that's 
understandable that you might not have all the info on what's going on.
If the interface isn't in the ports list follow Seth's advice about 
finding a driver. Check the options in Proteus VX to find out where it's 
sending your audio. And you'll need MIDIYoke or another virtual MIDI cable to 
connect with the Proteus.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com>  
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:44 AM
To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

I heard there were problems with Hal computers but by this time all 
such deficiencies should have been overcome. Thanks for the warning. I just 
cancelled my order before it shipped out!!


I thought I'd see the ports in QWS. I hope that the Rack still works. 
It's possible that the memory backup battery failed. That's replaceable 
but some memory info would be lost. I'd nhave to remap the unit.


If the Triton can't be salvaged, I'd need to go back to Proteus. I 
can't 
run that program because it can't initialize the audio. The drivers for 
that are working as they should.


Midiyoke won't load either and I don't remember what the message was.


I hope you know that I have used computers for years even though it 
must 
look like I'm a rank clutz!


Joe G.


    On 6/25/2021 5:54 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:



No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid 
them if possible.


You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI 
interface takes care of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS.





Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter








-Original Message-


From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com>  
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli


Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 3:41 PM


To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >


 

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

I've been meaning to check if LoopMIDI has an INI file I can edit in Notepad to 
make it work the way I want it without having to dig around in it.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Simon 
Jaeger
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:02 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think LoopBe only allows one port unless you pay 
for it.

This is the one I use and it works on latest Windows 10: 
https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

This is free and you can define as many ports as you want. The only trouble is 
that the list of configured ports is not accessible. Arrow keys will traverse 
the list, but screen-readers can't identify it as a list and won't tell you 
where the cursor lands. You therefore have to do a bit of guess work to 
correctly modify or delete the ports you've created. Since you can still read 
the order of them with something like the JAWS cursor or NVDA flat review, and 
even may be able to mouse click them to select them, this has never been a deal 
breaker for me. It's also the only software of its kind that I've found will 
let you rename the ports. So instead of having to remember that Proteus is on 
MidiYoke 7 or rename it from within QWS, you can just create a new port and 
call it Proteus VX.




On 6/26/2021 9:37 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:


Also, if midi yoke is giving you too much trouble, here’s another one 
you can try: 
LoopBe1 virtual midi cable from the following website:
https://www.nerds.de/en/download.html


God bless! 
Seth

On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Nicole Massey mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com> > wrote:


This is all a special subset of normal computer stuff, so that's 
understandable that you might not have all the info on what's going on.
If the interface isn't in the ports list follow Seth's advice about 
finding a driver. Check the options in Proteus VX to find out where it's 
sending your audio. And you'll need MIDIYoke or another virtual MIDI cable to 
connect with the Proteus.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com>  
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:44 AM
To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

I heard there were problems with Hal computers but by this time all 
such deficiencies should have been overcome. Thanks for the warning. I just 
cancelled my order before it shipped out!!


I thought I'd see the ports in QWS. I hope that the Rack still works. 
It's possible that the memory backup battery failed. That's replaceable 
but some memory info would be lost. I'd nhave to remap the unit.


If the Triton can't be salvaged, I'd need to go back to Proteus. I 
can't 
run that program because it can't initialize the audio. The drivers for 
that are working as they should.


Midiyoke won't load either and I don't remember what the message was.


I hope you know that I have used computers for years even though it 
must 
look like I'm a rank clutz!


Joe G.


On 6/25/2021 5:54 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:



No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid 
them if possible.


You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI 
interface takes care of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS.





Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter








-Original Message-


From: mai...@andrelouis.com <mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com>  
[mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli


Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 3:41 PM


To: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >


Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments





I have the USB Nto MIDI adapter. I guess the hookup has to be:








Medeli controler to computer.





Maybe computer to Triton MIDI in. Not sure the computer would 
send an output that way. I wondered if MIDI 

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

No, the HAL series has a problematic design flaw. Best to avoid them if 
possible.
You don't need MIDIYoke for any physical device, the MIDI interface takes care 
of that. It'll show up in your ports list in QWS.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 3:41 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

I have the USB Nto MIDI adapter. I guess the hookup has to be:


Medeli controler to computer.

Maybe computer to Triton MIDI in. Not sure the computer would send an output 
that way. I wondered if MIDI Yoke could be used in this way.


Right now Midiyoke says it is having its installation interrupted, and I 
have to start it again. Looks to me that UAC is getting in the way.


Proteus Vx says it can't initialize audio. Drivers are fine.


Do I need a Hal 1?


Joe

On 6/25/2021 11:25 AM, Nicole Massey wrote:
> You need a MIDI interface hooked up to your computer. Then you cable the 
> Triton up and you're good to go.
> If there isn't a Triton definition file Instavert can output one from a 
> Cakewalk definition file. No reason to try to create one by hand.
>
> Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
> Giovanelli
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:58 AM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments
>
> Hello,
>
> S
> eth,
>
>
> I am truly sorry for bothering this list with all of my difficulties. I have 
> a Win 7 machine and will probably try this, using Yoke as the cable.
>
>
> I have an alternate which was just offered me. It's a Triton Rack. I
> successfully used that some years ago. If that instrument still works,
> I'd like to use it.
>
>
> Question is how to connect it to my computer. I can use my keyboard as a
> controler by connecting it to my computer, but how do I send the output
> of the computer to the Triton. I suspect there's an intermediary program
> needed here.
>
>
> This has been a truly frustrating experience for me, and perhaps those
> on this list.
>
>
> Thank your kindness and patience.
>
>
> Joe G.
>
> On 6/24/2021 1:32 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>> Well good to know. Maybe I won’t be updating to windows 10 anytime soon if I 
>> can’t run that on it.  Of course, if anybody else has gotten Proteus VX to 
>> work on windows 10, please chime in.  I’ve heard that windows 10 is a huge 
>> pain in the neck as it is, as Microsoft keeps updating and changing things 
>> all over the map.  The only thing I can think for you to do, Joe, is the try 
>> running Proteus VX on an older computer if you have one.  It runs well on my 
>> Windows 7 PC, which is mostly what I use for work with QWS.  Sadly, my 
>> Windows 8 machine barely works anymore;  it had to travel a lot with me 
>> while I was in college, and with all the shaking and jostling it took in my 
>> backpack, it seems to have developed motherboard issues.
>>
>> God bless!
>> Seth
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>>
>> Seth, I tried this and there was nothing about running as administrater. I 
>> am running Win 10 and it may be different from your OS.
>>
>>
>> I still can make Proteus VX run because of problems with audio drivers. When 
>> I did a search for this program, I found various versions. Maybe I got the 
>> wrong one. I'm floundering around here and sinking.
>>
>>
>> Someone just offered me a Triton Rack. If it still works, that would bail me 
>> out of this.
>>
>>
>> I can send instructions from the controler to the computer, but how would I 
>> connect the computer to the MIDI In on the Triton?
>>
>>
>> Thank you for all your info.
>>
>>
>> Joe G.
>>
>>> On 6/24/2021 12:53 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>>> Richard, that looks right.
>>> Joe, have you tried running it as administrator?  I had some problems with 
>>> this on my Windows 8 machine if I remember correctly. It gave me an error 
>>> first time I opened it, so what I did was went into the context menu, 
>>> (press your applications key or  right click the mouse), and chose run as 
>>> administrator, and it worked.
>>>
>>> God bless!
>>> Seth
>>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>>>
>>> ITo unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com
>>>
>>> for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
&

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

It's how you get audio in and out of the computer, for things like recording.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 3:26 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Well, I have the USB to MIDI adapter. What is an audio interface?




Joe


On 6/25/2021 2:15 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:


Whether or not you get that module, definitely try Proteus on your 
Windows 7 machine. It has some stellar sounds on it that you won’t want to 
miss. 
As far as hooking up the Triton module to your computer, since the 
module is an older machine that probably doesn’t use USB, you’ll need a midi 
interface and a five pin din midi cable.  If you have an audio interface, it 
may already have a midi  interface built into it, and if that’s the case you 
could just use that with a midi cable. If not, Yamaha and Roland  make midi to 
USB interfaces that, if I’m not mistaken, are fairly inexpensive.
https://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLUMONEMK2
and 

https://www.amazon.com/Yamahaa-UX-16-Yamaha-Usb-midi-Interface/dp/B8BCXY/ref=dp_prsubs_2?pd_rd_i=B8BCXY=1
Also, you were asking about instrument list earlier I believe. Either 
of the Proteus VX Instrument lists will work, though the one that has cat in 
the name is set up so you can navigate by instrument categories: for example, 
you can press P repeatedly to navigate through all the pianos, L repeatedly to 
navigate through the synthesizer lead patches, etc.   


God bless! 
Seth

On Jun 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Joe nelli mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Hello,

S
eth,


I am truly sorry for bothering this list with all of my difficulties. I 
have a Win 7 machine and will probably try this, using Yoke as the cable.


I have an alternate which was just offered me. It's a Triton Rack. I 
successfully used that some years ago. If that instrument still works, I'd like 
to use it.


Question is how to connect it to my computer. I can use my keyboard as 
a controler by connecting it to my computer, but how do I send the output of 
the computer to the Triton. I suspect there's an intermediary program needed 
here.


This has been a truly frustrating experience for me, and perhaps those 
on this list.


Thank your kindness and patience.


Joe G.

On 6/24/2021 1:32 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:


Well good to know. Maybe I won’t be updating to windows 10 
anytime soon if I can’t run that on it.  Of course, if anybody else has gotten 
Proteus VX to work on windows 10, please chime in.  I’ve heard that windows 10 
is a huge pain in the neck as it is, as Microsoft keeps updating and changing 
things all over the map.  The only thing I can think for you to do, Joe, is the 
try running Proteus VX on an older computer if you have one.  It runs well on 
my Windows 7 PC, which is mostly what I use for work with QWS.  Sadly, my 
Windows 8 machine barely works anymore;  it had to travel a lot with me while I 
was in college, and with all the shaking and jostling it took in my backpack, 
it seems to have developed motherboard issues.





God bless!


Seth





On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Joe Giovanelli 
mailto:joegio...@gmail.com> > wrote:





Seth, I tried this and there was nothing about running as 
administrater. I am running Win 10 and it may be different from your OS.








I still can make Proteus VX run because of problems with audio 
drivers. When I did a search for this program, I found various versions. Maybe 
I got the wrong one. I'm floundering around here and sinking.








Someone just offered me a Triton Rack. If it still works, that 
would bail me out of this.








I can send instructions from the controler to the computer, but 
how would I connect the computer to the MIDI In on the Triton?








Thank you for all your info.








Joe G.





  

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

You need a MIDI interface hooked up to your computer. Then you cable the Triton 
up and you're good to go.
If there isn't a Triton definition file Instavert can output one from a 
Cakewalk definition file. No reason to try to create one by hand.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:58 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Hello,

S
eth,


I am truly sorry for bothering this list with all of my difficulties. I have a 
Win 7 machine and will probably try this, using Yoke as the cable.


I have an alternate which was just offered me. It's a Triton Rack. I 
successfully used that some years ago. If that instrument still works, 
I'd like to use it.


Question is how to connect it to my computer. I can use my keyboard as a 
controler by connecting it to my computer, but how do I send the output 
of the computer to the Triton. I suspect there's an intermediary program 
needed here.


This has been a truly frustrating experience for me, and perhaps those 
on this list.


Thank your kindness and patience.


Joe G.

On 6/24/2021 1:32 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:
> Well good to know. Maybe I won’t be updating to windows 10 anytime soon if I 
> can’t run that on it.  Of course, if anybody else has gotten Proteus VX to 
> work on windows 10, please chime in.  I’ve heard that windows 10 is a huge 
> pain in the neck as it is, as Microsoft keeps updating and changing things 
> all over the map.  The only thing I can think for you to do, Joe, is the try 
> running Proteus VX on an older computer if you have one.  It runs well on my 
> Windows 7 PC, which is mostly what I use for work with QWS.  Sadly, my 
> Windows 8 machine barely works anymore;  it had to travel a lot with me while 
> I was in college, and with all the shaking and jostling it took in my 
> backpack, it seems to have developed motherboard issues.
>
> God bless!
> Seth
>
> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>
> Seth, I tried this and there was nothing about running as administrater. I am 
> running Win 10 and it may be different from your OS.
>
>
> I still can make Proteus VX run because of problems with audio drivers. When 
> I did a search for this program, I found various versions. Maybe I got the 
> wrong one. I'm floundering around here and sinking.
>
>
> Someone just offered me a Triton Rack. If it still works, that would bail me 
> out of this.
>
>
> I can send instructions from the controler to the computer, but how would I 
> connect the computer to the MIDI In on the Triton?
>
>
> Thank you for all your info.
>
>
> Joe G.
>
>> On 6/24/2021 12:53 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>> Richard, that looks right.
>> Joe, have you tried running it as administrator?  I had some problems with 
>> this on my Windows 8 machine if I remember correctly. It gave me an error 
>> first time I opened it, so what I did was went into the context menu, (press 
>> your applications key or  right click the mouse), and chose run as 
>> administrator, and it worked.
>>
>> God bless!
>> Seth
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>>
>> ITo unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com
>>
>> for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com
>
> for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com
>
> for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
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RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

I thought there was a MacOS compatible version of Proteus VX.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 5:01 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Amen to that.  On my PC, I  use Coolsoft, which uses Bassmidi under the hood.  
It’s really too bad it’s not  available for Mac OS, otherwise I use it there 
too.  Same goes for Proteus VX.  I suppose that is the advantage to hardware: 
no matter what operating system you’re running, as long as that system 
recognizes midi, and your hardware has 5-pin Din ports, it can be used no 
matter how many updates you make.  

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 23, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

I'm partial to driver level sound font players like BassMIDI, because that way 
I can replace laggy low quality OS synths.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 10:40 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

You can get a plug-in now that solves the sound font issue to some degree on 
the Mac. It’s called Juicy SF plug-in, end it runs in VST and AU format.  There 
are some slight bugs with it, as it is a new plug-in; for example, it doesn’t 
quite handle cut off, resonance, and ADSR messages properly, but it uses the 
same engine as Synth Font, and it gets the job done when you need it.  There is 
a slight accessibility problem, but I found out that by going to the far side 
of the plug-in window moving my mouse down slightly and clicking, I am able to 
load sound fonts; once I’ve done that, I save them as Logic presets.  I have 
copies of this plug-in installer for Mac and windows if anybody is interested, 
as the website is a bit goofy to navigate.  

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 23, 2021, at 12:45 AM, Katherine Todd  wrote:

Thanks for that, I love QWS, but also love Komplete and wish the two could get 
along. I do not like reaper so much. It's a great program... just... I got so 
much more done before. So I'm gonna try that!!!
Katy

- Original Message - From: "Simon Jaeger" 
To: "QWS list" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments


> I relate to this entire e-mail in a serious way. I think one of the reasons I 
> stopped composing so much was because I bought into the Logic / Reaper / 
> Komplete / fancypants newfangled musical stuff™ scene. And it has its place; 
> Komplete is seriously amazing. But I still fly around QWS and hesitantly walk 
> around Reaper (at least for MIDI editing). One thing you can do is define QWS 
> as an external editor for MIDI files and have it use a loopback device routed 
> to Reaper by default. In conjunction with the setting that automatically arms 
> tracks as you select them, you could then have QWS send the output back into 
> Reaper automatically, so you kind of get the best of both worlds. I think the 
> only disadvantage to this method is that tempo information doesn't get 
> included in MIDI takes. And speaking of takes, the default ctrl+e action in 
> Reaper is to open a *copy* of an item in the external editor, so once you 
> save that item and close QWS, you'll have a second take in Reaper. It's like 
> version control for your music. I've only just started to play with this as 
> an option for MIDI editing, so I may make other good or bad discoveries along 
> the way.
> 
> 
>> On 6/22/2021 10:24 AM, raymond grote wrote:
>> Tbh the articles on using VST Host with qWS are relevant, but not 
>> many people seem to do it this way anymore because everyone has 
>> Komplete and are transitioning to Reaper. Not to say VST Host is 
>> useless, it's just not the only option anymore.
>> 
>> I don't have Komplete, but I still use Reaper a lot. What I do these 
>> days is to use Reaper instead of VSt Host. I personally find Reaper 
>> more stable and easier for me to tweak sounds with, and it eases 
>> Reaper's learning curve a bit. I still use QWS to sequence with vsts.
>> Komplete lovers will probably hate me, but I'm still in that 
>> transition phase. I've been in that for years because I find Reaper 
>> too daunting to get used to sequencing with it. I"m slowly trying and 
>> learning some tricks, but I'm so much faster with QWS it's not even 
>> funny.
>> 
>> Granted Seth is very much right that once you start doing anything 
>> serious with a bunch of vsts, you're going to want to do it in Reaper 
>> as much as you can. I have personal experience with the pain of 
>> routing through virtual midi cables and using QWS. It can certainly 
>> be done, but gets an

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

You can also load additional banks into it, so it's possible to get a crazy 
number of patches -- since it uses high density bank assignments (matrixing two 
controllers, 0 and 31) you can have 16384 banks of 128 patches each. It's a 
very useful sample player, and the format is a standard option for sound 
development companies and sample converter programs. And to make it all a bit 
nicer you can output the patch list to a text file for use to build a custom 
definition file. I think I've got pretty much the entire Korg M1 sound bank in 
an Ensoniq EPS format, so I'm thinking about getting that loaded as a Proteus 
VX bank and adding it to the regular sound bank file. I also launch Proteus VX 
with the link to the sound bank file instead of the program so it'll load that 
bank right off the bat. If that Proteus VX definition file has the category 
designator (PNO, Wind, GTR, etc.) then that's the one I built, and it took me a 
moment or two to realize we were dealing with high definition bank changes.
I've run into some bank strangeness, including Oberheim/Kurzweil (some Korg 
stuff did this too) 100 patch banks where everything from 100-127 was the bank 
selector.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:32 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Proteus VX is not a collection of fonts; rather, it is a standalone synthesizer 
that will load a bank of its own proprietary presets when you open it on your 
computer. In order to use it with QWS, you need the virtual midi cable I was 
talking about earlier.  I have also gotten it to work as a VST in reaper, but 
not with VST host.  The most straightforward way to use it with QWS is to run 
it as a standalone program, then from the edit menu,  go into preferences  set 
your midi in device to the in Port on which ever virtual cable you’re using: 
for example, in from midi yoke 1. Then, go to QWS, create a new track, and set 
the port to your out port, such as out to midi yolk 1.   This software 
instrument is multitimbrel, so you can create multiple tracks with it. It uses 
banks 0, 1, 2, and maybe 3 and four for its instrument presets, and there is 
also an instrument list for it on the QWS website.
Hopefully this will help you out and getting started with Proteus VX. 


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 22, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Nicole Massey  wrote:

The only thing I could think of is that the keyboard might have some way to 
turn it off as an internal thing, or turn off response to specific MIDI 
channels from the keyboard, but it's not a major manufacturer so they might do 
something a bit non-standard.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 10:35 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Every keyboard should now have the ability to turn off local, unless it’s 
something really stupid cheap like a $50 RadioShack keyboard from the past.  
What model keyboard did you get? It should say in the manual how to turn off 
local.  
As far as virtual instruments go, your best bet is going to be to purchase one 
of the Komplete packages, and a A49 or S49 controller from Native Instruments 
so you can access the parameters.  There are several versions of the Komplete 
package, some of which only have a few instruments while others have literally 
hundreds of instruments.  I currently own Komplete 12 CE, and I’m looking at 
upgrading to 13. This package is amazing! There are so many instruments I 
haven’t even gotten a chance to work with all of them.  

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:

Good morning,


The new music keyboard is very nice and at a cost of only $500. The problem is 
that it does not have thie ability to turn off Local. Some of its 600 sounds 
are very good but, under the circumstances, useless.


For this reason I am forced to obtain  virtual sounds.


I foun d an article on the QWS site which discusses Loopmidi and Vsthost. The 
instructions for using these programs to set up virtual instruments are rather 
brief and assume more knowledge than I possess.

I'm supposed to tell Loopmidi what ports I plan to use. Well, I figure to 
select Proteus VX as my sound bank, but do I use that as the port name?


I'm supposed to open Vsthost in Wave. Well, the closest I can find is Use Bank.


I believe I was able to delete the Input port in QWS. That is as far as I could 
get.


I will appreciate any help you ncan offer as to how to move forward 
successfully with my search for virtual instruments.


I thank you very much for your help.


Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY

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RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

Sound fonts work natively in MacOS until you install Logic, which disables that 
function. One of the annoying things about it.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:46 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

I’ve actually found logic pretty amazing for midi editing, once you get around 
its few quirks, like it’s balkiness when working with hardware instruments and 
Bank select messages.That being said, there are a few things I miss from 
QWS, like the progression and note replace tools, and the ability to use 
instrument list.  I still use it from time to time when I feel the need to go 
back to my old but goods software instruments like my sound fonts, my freeware 
VST‘s, and Proteus VX, which unfortunately doesn’t work on the Mac or in logic. 


God bless!
Seth

On Jun 22, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Simon Jaeger  wrote:

For what it's worth, the budget 61 key controller is $279 and comes with some 
free instruments, and they get even cheaper if you're willing to go smaller 
than 61. You could opt to get the M32, which is very compact, and use it as a 
portable controller and control surface of sorts for Komplete. There are a lot 
of free and inexpensive Kontakt libraries you could load up and use. You can 
buy more expensive controllers from them, and you can upgrade your Komplete to 
one of several expansions that go all the way up to the jaw-droppingly 
expensive Collectors' Edition, but that is by no means a requirement for making 
good music or getting into the Komplete ecosystem.

> On 6/22/2021 11:03 AM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
> Well, Seth, that's too much for me right now.
> 
> 
> I thank you for writing.
> 
> 
> Joe
> 
>> On 6/22/2021 12:27 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>> To be honest, I’ve been using the KK stuff  with logic pro, not QWS. I’m not 
>> really sure how well they work with QWS.  I do know that they work with 
>> reaper though.
>> How strange that your keyboard doesn’t have a local off function. All 
>> keyboards should have that ability.  Of course, the alternative would be to 
>> play it using an external controller when you’re using it in QWS.  As far as 
>> pricing for the
>>   KK products, the Komplete CE package is $1600. I believe the ultimate 
>> package is 1200, and the prices go down from there. I don’t recall the 
>> prices of the controllers off hand.
>> 
>> God bless!
>> Seth
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Seth,
>> 
>> 
>> The instrument is a Medeli sp-4200. Believe it or not, the MIDI 
>> implementation chart shows that controler 122 is crossed out.
>> 
>> 
>> What do these "complete packages" offer? Do they avoid Loopmidi and Vsthost? 
>> What do they cost?
>> 
>> 
>> God bless you as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Joe G.
>> 
>>> On 6/22/2021 11:35 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>>> Every keyboard should now have the ability to turn off local, unless it’s 
>>> something really stupid cheap like a $50 RadioShack keyboard from the past. 
>>>  What model keyboard did you get? It should say in the manual how to turn 
>>> off local.
>>> As far as virtual instruments go, your best bet is going to be to purchase 
>>> one of the Komplete packages, and a A49 or S49 controller from Native 
>>> Instruments so you can access the parameters.  There are several versions 
>>> of the Komplete package, some of which only have a few instruments while 
>>> others have literally hundreds of instruments.  I currently own Komplete 12 
>>> CE, and I’m looking at upgrading to 13. This package is amazing! There are 
>>> so many instruments I haven’t even gotten a chance to work with all of them.
>>> 
>>> God bless!
>>> Seth
>>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The new music keyboard is very nice and at a cost of only $500. The problem 
>>> is that it does not have thie ability to turn off Local. Some of its 600 
>>> sounds are very good but, under the circumstances, useless.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For this reason I am forced to obtain  virtual sounds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I foun d an article on the QWS site which discusses Loopmidi and Vsthost. 
>>> The instructions for using these programs to set up virtual instruments are 
>>> rather brief and assume more knowledge than I possess.
>>> 
>>> I'm supposed to tell Loopmidi what ports I plan to use. Well, I figure to 
>>> select Proteus VX as my sound bank, but do I use that as the port name?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm supposed to open Vsthost in Wave. Well, the closest I can find is Use 
>>> Bank.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe I was able to delete the Input port in QWS. That is as far as I 
>>> could get.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will appreciate any help you ncan offer as to how to move forward 
>>> successfully with my search for virtual instruments.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I thank you very much for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY
>>> 

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

I've written a lot of tests for Logic, and it's good at what it does but has 
some definite holes, and it messes up some defaults on the Mac because of 
assumptions. (Apple's great at assuming what their elite customers will want) 
All these tests were for sighted students, and I've got a very nice Mac Pro 
sitting here waiting for me to find some way to put logic on it so I can do a 
full set of handouts and tests for sight impaired users. No idea when that'll 
happen.
There's value in divorcing ourselves from bandwagon thinking. For years now 
there've been phases where some program was the be all end all for blind users, 
only because someone either at the company or outside it did what it took to 
make it usable by us. We don't live in that world, and KK is a huge cash 
investment many blind musicians don't have the money to make.  I'm sure it'd be 
useful for me, as I use some of the NI programs as stand-alones in QWS using a 
virtual MIDI cable. (though not in LoopMIDI, still having troubles with that)

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Simon 
Jaeger
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 1:33 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

I relate to this entire e-mail in a serious way. I think one of the reasons I 
stopped composing so much was because I bought into the Logic / Reaper / 
Komplete / fancypants newfangled musical stuff™ scene. And it has its place; 
Komplete is seriously amazing. But I still fly around QWS and hesitantly walk 
around Reaper (at least for MIDI editing). One thing you can do is define QWS 
as an external editor for MIDI files and have it use a loopback device routed 
to Reaper by default. In conjunction with the setting that automatically arms 
tracks as you select them, you could then have QWS send the output back into 
Reaper automatically, so you kind of get the best of both worlds. I think the 
only disadvantage to this method is that tempo information doesn't get included 
in MIDI takes. And speaking of takes, the default ctrl+e action in Reaper is to 
open a *copy* of an item in the external editor, so once you save that item and 
close QWS, you'll have a second take in Reaper. It's like version control for 
your music. I've only just started to play with this as an option for MIDI 
editing, so I may make other good or bad discoveries along the way.


On 6/22/2021 10:24 AM, raymond grote wrote:
> Tbh the articles on using VST Host with qWS are relevant, but not many 
> people seem to do it this way anymore because everyone has Komplete 
> and are transitioning to Reaper. Not to say VST Host is useless, it's 
> just not the only option anymore.
>
> I don't have Komplete, but I still use Reaper a lot. What I do these 
> days is to use Reaper instead of VSt Host. I personally find Reaper 
> more stable and easier for me to tweak sounds with, and it eases 
> Reaper's learning curve a bit. I still use QWS to sequence with vsts.
> Komplete lovers will probably hate me, but I'm still in that 
> transition phase. I've been in that for years because I find Reaper 
> too daunting to get used to sequencing with it. I"m slowly trying and 
> learning some tricks, but I'm so much faster with QWS it's not even 
> funny.
>
> Granted Seth is very much right that once you start doing anything 
> serious with a bunch of vsts, you're going to want to do it in Reaper 
> as much as you can. I have personal experience with the pain of 
> routing through virtual midi cables and using QWS. It can certainly be 
> done, but gets annoying to say the least.
>
> On 6/22/21, Seth Lowman  wrote:
>> Oh, and the KK packages vary depending on which one you get. I 
>> believe the smallest one offers a few pianos and synthesizers, while 
>> the largest one, Komplete CE offers the entire gamut, from pianos and 
>> synthesizers, to drums, guitar, basses, orchestral instruments, etc.  
>> now that I’m thinking about it, you could probably make KK work with 
>> QWS, though you would have to use a virtual midi loop cable such as 
>> Midi Yolk or Loopbe1. You won’t need VST host though, as KK has its 
>> own standalone application.  However, using it that way seems like it 
>> would be extremely complicated, as you would have to do things with 
>> instances and all sorts of other goofiness in order to make it all 
>> work.  The best way to use KK is to use it in reaper or logic, as 
>> those programs have built-in support for KK.  Of course, if anybody else 
>> knows more about using it with QWS, please chime in.
>>
>>
>> God bless!
>> Seth
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Seth,
>>
>>
>> The instrument is a Medeli sp-4200. Believe it or not, the MIDI 
>> implementation chart shows that controler 122 is crossed out.
>>
>>
>> What do these "complete packages" offer? Do they avoid Loopmidi and Vsthost?
>> What do they cost?
>>
>>
>> God bless you as well.
>>
>>

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

There's no reason to learn MIDI in Reaper since you can configure QWS as your 
MIDI editor, so  you get that straightforward and very native MIDI 
implementation.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of raymond 
grote
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:25 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Tbh the articles on using VST Host with qWS are relevant, but not many people 
seem to do it this way anymore because everyone has Komplete and are 
transitioning to Reaper. Not to say VST Host is useless, it's just not the only 
option anymore.

I don't have Komplete, but I still use Reaper a lot. What I do these days is to 
use Reaper instead of VSt Host. I personally find Reaper more stable and easier 
for me to tweak sounds with, and it eases Reaper's learning curve a bit. I 
still use QWS to sequence with vsts.
Komplete lovers will probably hate me, but I'm still in that transition phase. 
I've been in that for years because I find Reaper too daunting to get used to 
sequencing with it. I"m slowly trying and learning some tricks, but I'm so much 
faster with QWS it's not even funny.

Granted Seth is very much right that once you start doing anything serious with 
a bunch of vsts, you're going to want to do it in Reaper as much as you can. I 
have personal experience with the pain of routing through virtual midi cables 
and using QWS. It can certainly be done, but gets annoying to say the least.

On 6/22/21, Seth Lowman  wrote:
> Oh, and the KK packages vary depending on which one you get. I believe 
> the smallest one offers a few pianos and synthesizers, while the 
> largest one, Komplete CE offers the entire gamut, from pianos and 
> synthesizers, to drums, guitar, basses, orchestral instruments, etc.  
> now that I’m thinking about it, you could probably make KK work with 
> QWS, though you would have to use a virtual midi loop cable such as 
> Midi Yolk or Loopbe1. You won’t need VST host though, as KK has its 
> own standalone application.  However, using it that way seems like it 
> would be extremely complicated, as you would have to do things with 
> instances and all sorts of other goofiness in order to make it all 
> work.  The best way to use KK is to use it in reaper or logic, as 
> those programs have built-in support for KK.  Of course, if anybody else 
> knows more about using it with QWS, please chime in.
>
>
> God bless!
> Seth
>
> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>
> Hi, Seth,
>
>
> The instrument is a Medeli sp-4200. Believe it or not, the MIDI 
> implementation chart shows that controler 122 is crossed out.
>
>
> What do these "complete packages" offer? Do they avoid Loopmidi and Vsthost?
> What do they cost?
>
>
> God bless you as well.
>
>
> Joe G.
>
>> On 6/22/2021 11:35 AM, Seth Lowman wrote:
>> Every keyboard should now have the ability to turn off local, unless 
>> it’s something really stupid cheap like a $50 RadioShack keyboard 
>> from the past.  What model keyboard did you get? It should say in the 
>> manual how to turn off local.
>> As far as virtual instruments go, your best bet is going to be to 
>> purchase one of the Komplete packages, and a A49 or S49 controller 
>> from Native Instruments so you can access the parameters.  There are 
>> several versions of the Komplete package, some of which only have a 
>> few instruments while others have literally hundreds of instruments.  
>> I currently own Komplete
>> 12 CE, and I’m looking at upgrading to 13. This package is amazing! 
>> There are so many instruments I haven’t even gotten a chance to work 
>> with all of them.
>>
>> God bless!
>> Seth
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>>
>> The new music keyboard is very nice and at a cost of only $500. The 
>> problem is that it does not have thie ability to turn off Local. Some 
>> of its 600 sounds are very good but, under the circumstances, useless.
>>
>>
>> For this reason I am forced to obtain  virtual sounds.
>>
>>
>> I foun d an article on the QWS site which discusses Loopmidi and Vsthost.
>> The instructions for using these programs to set up virtual 
>> instruments are rather brief and assume more knowledge than I possess.
>>
>> I'm supposed to tell Loopmidi what ports I plan to use. Well, I 
>> figure to select Proteus VX as my sound bank, but do I use that as the port 
>> name?
>>
>>
>> I'm supposed to open Vsthost in Wave. Well, the closest I can find is 
>> Use Bank.
>>
>>
>> I believe I was able to delete the Input port in QWS. That is as far 
>> as I could get.
>>
>>
>> I will appreciate any help you ncan offer as to how to move forward 
>> successfully with my search for virtual instruments.
>>
>>
>> I thank you very much for your help.
>>
>>
>> Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY
>>
>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see 
>> http://lists.andrelouis.com
>>
>> for archived list posts, see

RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

The only thing I could think of is that the keyboard might have some way to 
turn it off as an internal thing, or turn off response to specific MIDI 
channels from the keyboard, but it's not a major manufacturer so they might do 
something a bit non-standard.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Seth 
Lowman
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 10:35 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List virtual instruments

Every keyboard should now have the ability to turn off local, unless it’s 
something really stupid cheap like a $50 RadioShack keyboard from the past.  
What model keyboard did you get? It should say in the manual how to turn off 
local.  
As far as virtual instruments go, your best bet is going to be to purchase one 
of the Komplete packages, and a A49 or S49 controller from Native Instruments 
so you can access the parameters.  There are several versions of the Komplete 
package, some of which only have a few instruments while others have literally 
hundreds of instruments.  I currently own Komplete 12 CE, and I’m looking at 
upgrading to 13. This package is amazing! There are so many instruments I 
haven’t even gotten a chance to work with all of them.  

God bless!
Seth

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:

Good morning,


The new music keyboard is very nice and at a cost of only $500. The problem is 
that it does not have thie ability to turn off Local. Some of its 600 sounds 
are very good but, under the circumstances, useless.


For this reason I am forced to obtain  virtual sounds.


I foun d an article on the QWS site which discusses Loopmidi and Vsthost. The 
instructions for using these programs to set up virtual instruments are rather 
brief and assume more knowledge than I possess.

I'm supposed to tell Loopmidi what ports I plan to use. Well, I figure to 
select Proteus VX as my sound bank, but do I use that as the port name?


I'm supposed to open Vsthost in Wave. Well, the closest I can find is Use Bank.


I believe I was able to delete the Input port in QWS. That is as far as I could 
get.


I will appreciate any help you ncan offer as to how to move forward 
successfully with my search for virtual instruments.


I thank you very much for your help.


Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY

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RE: QWS List virtual instruments

[Nicole Massey]

You're dealing with virtual MIDI cables here, so it helps to visualize things 
as physical devices to keep how they interconnect in mind.
You hook up the sequencer to a MIDI cable. You hook that cable to a sound 
source, like Proteus VX or VST Host. I like a static working environment 
because it gets the tech out of my creative way, so I rename the cables to 
reflect what's connecting to it. So my first LoopMIDI cable is named Proteus 
VX. For some reason it doesn't want to work for me, I'll post the error message 
next time I fire up the sequencer and Proteus VX.
>From there you'll configure the cable in Proteus VX so it knows what to listen 
>to. This is the virtual equivalent of plugging the device in. You also have to 
>configure where you want the sound program's audio to go, the equivalent of 
>plugging it into your mixer.
I've only toyed with VST Host a bit, and there's a lot that I don't know about 
it. I'd like to, because there are some VSTs I want to run. (I want access to 
my Matrix 6 sounds, for example, and I'm hoping to buy the PPG Wave plug-in 
sometime soon) So information on how to configure it, how to get patch lists 
out of it so I can build a definition list for it, and tricks folks have 
discovered to get the most out of it would be great.
As I mentioned above, LoopMIDI has some quirks that I don't know how to 
resolve. It pops up when I reboot the computer, taking over the screen reader 
and repeating the first port's name and port designation. I can't seem to get 
to port 2 or any later to configure them, and when I try to use it I get error 
messages. Anyone out there a LoopMIDI guru who can help me out?

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 9:33 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List virtual instruments

Good morning,


The new music keyboard is very nice and at a cost of only $500. The problem is 
that it does not have thie ability to turn off Local. Some of its 600 sounds 
are very good but, under the circumstances, useless.


For this reason I am forced to obtain  virtual sounds.


I foun d an article on the QWS site which discusses Loopmidi and Vsthost. The 
instructions for using these programs to set up virtual instruments are rather 
brief and assume more knowledge than I possess.

I'm supposed to tell Loopmidi what ports I plan to use. Well, I figure to 
select Proteus VX as my sound bank, but do I use that as the port name?


I'm supposed to open Vsthost in Wave. Well, the closest I can find is 
Use Bank.


I believe I was able to delete the Input port in QWS. That is as far as 
I could get.


I will appreciate any help you ncan offer as to how to move forward 
successfully with my search for virtual instruments.


I thank you very much for your help.


Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY

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RE: QWS List instrument lists

[Nicole Massey]

The QWS instrument definition list is a QWS specific file type. That said, 
Gavin Grundling created Instavert which coverts Cakewalk Sonar definition lists 
into the QWS format. This has been super useful for me in the past.

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Giovanelli
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2021 2:09 PM
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Subject: QWS List instrument lists

Hello,


Are instruments developed just for QWS users or is it something familiar to 
users of other sequencers?


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RE: QWS List SV: AW: AW: New keyboard time

[Nicole Massey]

Question -- do you play out any? If not then going with a controller is far 
less complexity than a keyboard with sounds, and modern controllers are 
festooned with knobs, sliders, switches, and other stuff.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Williams
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 1:37 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List SV: AW: AW: New keyboard time

Thanks everyone for the comments on my new keyboard search. Searching around 
the Internet and YouTube in particular they do seem to be a lot of keyboards 
around now with touchscreens. I think I am leaning towards a Yamaha of some 
sort. So in a couple of weeks I will be braving the new world out there and 
trotting off to a dealer to have a play.

On 31 May 2021, at 1:50 am, Simon Jaeger  wrote:


 

I've never tried driving Komplete with QWS, but in theory it should be 
possible, if a bit messy. You'd need to use Reaper as a VST host, and a midi 
loopback system like LoopMidi 
 , and you'd probably 
need to select sounds on the keyboard rather than with QWS. It certainly won't 
be ideal, and the annoyance of having to juggle software might actually 
outweigh the convenience of QWS. That's another reason I'm happy I got a 
hardware keyboard, even if I plan on eventually importing the sounds into 
Komplete.

One other option I've never played with is the external editor function in 
Reaper, which takes the current item and opens it up in an audio or midi 
editor. In theory it should be possible to define QWS as your external editor 
and have Reaper send an individual MIDI item out to QWS. If you use the 
LoopMidi software linked above, you could have a loopback device that sends the 
MIDI from QWS back into Reaper, so you could preview your edits in realtime.

I haven't done this so I would need to experiment before I could be of any real 
help, but part of the reason I got a hardware keyboard was so that I could get 
back into making music with QWS, so I plan on playing with this a lot more soon.



On 5/27/2021 11:49 PM, Katherine Todd wrote:


 
I have a native instruments or Komplete Kontrol keyboard rather. I 
haven't been able to get it to work with QWS and for that I am very sad. QWS 
made music making so easy for me. I am not the biggest fan of reaper though now 
I grudgingly use it. Now I'm not saying it's horrible, only for me. QWS was 
super awesome!!! So if it ever was able to be set up to work with Komplete... 
that, would be so cool!!!
Katy
 

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Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:26 PM
Subject: QWS List SV: AW: AW: New keyboard time


Very certain. 

I have a Tyros 5 that definitely is much more accessible for 
the blind.

If you want to have fun deeply inside the menus on Genos you’re 
lost.

 

Brian

Brian

 

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mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com> > På vegne af Niklas 
Rittinghaus
Sendt: 27. maj 2021 21:34
Til: QWS list mailto:qws@AndreLouis.COM> >
Emne: QWS List AW: AW: New keyboard time

 

That is in fact, simply wrong. The genos has a voice guide and 
that makes it accessible to a certain Degree.

Set: The accessibility of the genos is more Basic than I 
thought at first. You can select styles and sounds, make simple Recordings and 
you can select Presets of the voice harmonizer and Vocoder from what I know. 
And it is not such a big Problem, since you can navigate the touch screen with 
the voice guide. In Addition, the genos has even knobs for transpose, tempo 
fills Intros and endings and some keys for accessing some functions, like the 
accompagnement and such. So, it is simply not true that the genos is 
inaccessible.

That are the Things what I use the voice guide for and yes, it 
has it’s limitations, but Keep in mind that yamaha has the only one solution 
for us to navigate the screen and and use the genos to a certain Point, other 
companys have Nothing.

I was a Little bit disapointed, since yamaha could have made 
more out of this Concept, but I use the Basics and because of the touch screen 
the voice guide is better than Nothing, since you even know where you are at 
the Moment.

 

Best

Niklas

 

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  für Windows 10

 

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RE: QWS List program and bank assignments and spread sheet

[Nicole Massey]

Yeah, I left out a word there. Programs like Excel or the free Excelviewer can 
do the job for you.
Sorry, but I'm very web security conscious, so I have a policy of keeping my 
phone number (and other personal information) off the internet. So we'll need 
to do this by email.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 6:07 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List program and bank assignments and spread sheet

Hello, Nicole,


I understand much of what you wrote here. I do not yet know how to start the 
process.


You wrote:

What you need: A spreadsheet that'll read the file
Microsoft Notepad
An instrument  definition file to make sure you're getting the format right.

Obviously a spread sheet isn't a program. Looks like there's supposed to 
be a program which can work with a spread sheet, and I do not know what 
that is.


Is there a possibility that we could talk on the phone and work with me 
to create the instrument list? We could exchange phoneoff list if 
desired. At my age opf 92, I'm pretty sure I'll need some assistance.


I sincerely thank you for your interest.


Joe G.

On 5/14/2021 3:14 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
> I used to do this all the time. It's been a while, though my explanation is 
> on this list somewhere.
> What you need: A spreadsheet that'll read the file
> Microsoft Notepad
> An instrument definition file to make sure you're getting the format right.
> Chances are good what they sent you will have the bank, program, and patch 
> name, and most likely it'll be in different columns.
> You need to add the MIDI channel for each program, which goes first. So the 
> order is MIDI channel, Bank, Program Number, Program name.
> If you're using a multi-timbral instrument that'll play on all 16 channels 
> (with channel 10 doing drum sounds) you can use a MIDI channel of -1 for the 
> normal programs and 10 for your drum maps.
> So get things set up so it matches the structure above. While you're doing 
> this, go through the program names and look for odd characters, because some 
> will cause the file to stop returning information when encountered. When 
> you've got your table set up, open a notepad session and also open the 
> definition file you've selected as an example.
> Press Control+End to get to the last cell in your table in the spreadsheet. 
> Then press Control+Shift+Home to select everything. Press Control+C to copy 
> everything in the spreadsheet.
> Go to Notepad, and use Control+V to paste the table in. Go to the top and 
> highlight the first tab and the numbers surrounding it, which will probably 
> be a 1 from the MIDI channel and a 0 from the bank. Press Control+H to open 
> the find and replace. Control+V to paste the numbers with the tab in the 
> middle into the find box, then delete both numbers so only a tab is in that 
> box. Press the tab key to get to the replace box and type a comma. Tab down 
> to Replace all and hit the spacebar. It may take a moment to get through 
> everything. Give it a bit of time then press Cancel and you should find 
> everything separated by commas instead of tabs. Go back to the top and copy 
> the format header and instrument name line from the other definition file, 
> changing any instrument references to the synth you're referencing in the new 
> file. Save it, using the QWS instrument definition list naming protocol. Open 
> QWS, load it, and check that it works. If you get an error you've stumbled 
> somewhere or one of those illegal characters snuck past you and you'll have 
> to find it.
> Hope this helps.
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
> Giovanelli
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 12:32 PM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: QWS List program and bank assignments and spread sheet
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
>
>
>
> I recently purchased a Medeli SP-4200 keyboard. The piano nand other sounds 
> are quite ngood.
>
>
>
>
> The manual did not have the program and bank assignments so I emailed Medeli 
> and nI immediately received nthe informationn but it was on a spread sheet. I 
> was able to read a bit of the data but how can this be used to make an 
> instrument list?
>
>
>
>
>
> I asked them for a different file format but all they did was resend the same 
> file. I have to think they do not speak good English.
>
>
>
>
> This is very disconcerting as you can imagine. I hope someone has a thought 
> as to what I can do.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for reading this.
>
>
>
>
> Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe or ch

RE: QWS List program and bank assignments and spread sheet

[Nicole Massey]

I used to do this all the time. It's been a while, though my explanation is on 
this list somewhere.
What you need: A spreadsheet that'll read the file
Microsoft Notepad
An instrument definition file to make sure you're getting the format right.
Chances are good what they sent you will have the bank, program, and patch 
name, and most likely it'll be in different columns.
You need to add the MIDI channel for each program, which goes first. So the 
order is MIDI channel, Bank, Program Number, Program name.
If you're using a multi-timbral instrument that'll play on all 16 channels 
(with channel 10 doing drum sounds) you can use a MIDI channel of -1 for the 
normal programs and 10 for your drum maps.
So get things set up so it matches the structure above. While you're doing 
this, go through the program names and look for odd characters, because some 
will cause the file to stop returning information when encountered. When you've 
got your table set up, open a notepad session and also open the definition file 
you've selected as an example. 
Press Control+End to get to the last cell in your table in the spreadsheet. 
Then press Control+Shift+Home to select everything. Press Control+C to copy 
everything in the spreadsheet.
Go to Notepad, and use Control+V to paste the table in. Go to the top and 
highlight the first tab and the numbers surrounding it, which will probably be 
a 1 from the MIDI channel and a 0 from the bank. Press Control+H to open the 
find and replace. Control+V to paste the numbers with the tab in the middle 
into the find box, then delete both numbers so only a tab is in that box. Press 
the tab key to get to the replace box and type a comma. Tab down to Replace all 
and hit the spacebar. It may take a moment to get through everything. Give it a 
bit of time then press Cancel and you should find everything separated by 
commas instead of tabs. Go back to the top and copy the format header and 
instrument name line from the other definition file, changing any instrument 
references to the synth you're referencing in the new file. Save it, using the 
QWS instrument definition list naming protocol. Open QWS, load it, and check 
that it works. If you get an error you've stumbled somewhere or one of those 
illegal characters snuck past you and you'll have to find it.
Hope this helps.
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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 12:32 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List program and bank assignments and spread sheet

Good Afternoon,




I recently purchased a Medeli SP-4200 keyboard. The piano nand other sounds are 
quite ngood.




The manual did not have the program and bank assignments so I emailed Medeli 
and nI immediately received nthe informationn but it was on a spread sheet. I 
was able to read a bit of the data but how can this be used to make an 
instrument list? 





I asked them for a different file format but all they did was resend the same 
file. I have to think they do not speak good English.




This is very disconcerting as you can imagine. I hope someone has a thought as 
to what I can do.




Thank you for reading this.




Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY



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RE: QWS List ports problem revisited

[Nicole Massey]

This isn't a QWS problem, as you've probably figured out after the reinstall. 
It's a driver problem, so check out what's going on with your MIDI driver.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Giovanelli
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2021 1:44 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List ports problem revisited

Hello,
Seth,


Thanks for writing. I'll definitely take your suggestion.


It turns out that after uninstalling  QWS, my files remained in their places.


Unfortunately output ports still won't open with a fresh installation. 
If I can't solve this, I can't do any sequencing.


I need the "powers that be" to consider this and let me know what can be 
done.


I thank you.


Joe Giovanelli

On 4/30/2021 9:35 PM, Seth Lowman wrote:
> You can choose where you want to save your files when the Save as dialogue 
> comes up the first time you save a new file. Personally, I don’t keep my 
> files in the QWS folder, but in a different directory  within my documents 
> folder. This way, if something goes wrong and I have to uninstall QWS, My 
> Files won’t get deleted, and I can resume work on them when I reinstall it.
>
> God bless!
> Seth
>
> On Apr 30, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Joe Giovanelli  wrote:
>
> Good evening,
>
>
> I now have a new synthesizer and I still have the situation where QWS cannot 
> open the output port.
>
>
> I have to believe that the software is corrupt. I will install it again.
>
>
> My question is what happens to my songs which are buried many layers deep. It 
> will be difficult to replace them even though they are backed up.
>
>
> How is it that my files end up in that remote location  rather than in the 
> main QWS folder?
>
>
> I truly look forward to your thoughtsand ideas.
>
>
> Thank you for reading this.
>
>
> Joe Giovanelli
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RE: QWS List vsts and sound fonts

[Nicole Massey]

Different. VSTs are programs, most often either FX or synths, that connect to 
music software using a specific method -- the Virtual Studio Technology codec 
defined by Steinberg and made available through one of the public domain 
methods.
Sound Fonts were created by Creative Labs for their Soundblaster line, and 
they're multi-sampled instruments that are often saved in banks. It's a useful 
format though it has limitations because it's a pretty old format that was 
created back in the day where memory for samples was at a premium.
There are VSTs that can load Sound Fonts, either for straightforward playback 
or as the starting point for synthesis. But there are also driver level Sound 
Font players that act like  any other driver on the system, and these can be 
low latency. It's also possible (in fact recommended) to load a GS compatible 
Sound Font bank in the playback driver so you can stop using the Microsoft GS 
Wavetable Synth. I do this, and I'm very pleased with how well this works.
Note that VSTs don't have to be sample based, so you can use all kinds of 
synthesis topologies this way.

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Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:33 PM
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Subject: QWS List vsts and sound fonts

Hello,


I have a question for thislist.


Are VSTS and sound fonts the same thing? If not, what are the differences?


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RE: QWS List Sound font player?

[Nicole Massey]

I was told that MacOS plays them natively until Logic is installed, and it 
somehow breaks that feature, so no, I haven't found a good one for the Mac.

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Lowman
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 7:11 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Sound font player?

Hello all. 
Does anybody know of a good sound font player for the Mac?  I have been using 
logic pro for most of my production as of late, and so I’m looking for a way to 
play all my sound fonts using logic.  The last one I tried did not work with 
voiceover, so I’m wondering if anybody has any suggestions?  If there isn’t one 
for logic, I’d also be open to using one in reaper.

God bless!
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RE: QWS List QWS Ver 2.0?

[Nicole Massey]

I know this may be because of my long history with MIDI, but I don't know that  
a 2.0 version of the specification will saturate much into the industry. MIDI 
as it exists right now has a couple of major advantages. First off, it's 
documented very well in its various flavors. Second, everything, and by 
everything I mean every single element of the specification, is optional. 
That's a lot of flexibility there.
Also remember that the MMA can do anything they want to in updating or rolling 
out new versions of the MIDI specification, but someone has to implement it, 
and that means both sides -- James would have to make QWS MIDI 2.x compatible, 
and there'd have to be hardware that used it too. Given the current retro craze 
I'm finding it a bit hard to expect both of those things to come together at 
once.
I seriously doubt James is done with QWS, but he has said a couple of times 
here he's working on other stuff and will get back to QWS soon enough.

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Carlos González Moráles
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 6:04 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List QWS Ver 2.0?

Hi Carlos, my tocallo,
I was eaven thinking the same thing about a tentative QWS 2.0, since I was 
recently exploring about the new MIDI 2.0. Could this possibility will become 
reality? And also don't want to come to the extreme, but will be a GUI rewrite, 
so instead of using lng files to translate qws in this case, can we use PO nd 
MO files?

Carlos Gonzalez wrote:
> Will there ever be a Version 2.0of QWS? Or, has the QWS project been 
> laid to rest never to be heard from again?
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RE: QWS List Using QWS as a MIDI editor for reaper.

[Nicole Massey]

I haven't done it myself, but a friend of mine said that all you need to do
is go into Reaper's settings and set QWS as your MIDI editor. I don't know
if he's still on this list, but I'll ask him for particulars.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 2:41 AM
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Subject: QWS List Using QWS as a MIDI editor for reaper.

Hi All.

I saw mention on this list that QWS could be used as an external midi editor
for reaper.

Can anyone explain how to set this up and how to use it.

I'm a real fan of reaper but its midi editing seams really unintuitive.

As the moment I've got QWS pushing out to a virtual midi cable and reaper
picking that up and acting as my VST host. But this is a really clunky way
of doing it. If there's a better way I'd be very interested in finding out
how.

 

Thanks.

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RE: QWS List SV: Resending this as it didn't get any responses.

[Nicole Massey]

Something I forgot. You can filter tracks to remove different types of MIDI 
events -- note data, controller data, program changes, sysex, and so on. This 
means if you want to get some of this out of a track you can duplicate the 
track and then filter what you want out of it. And with most of the gear I've 
dealt with tempo information is always on one track and unless the sysex is 
doing patch editing it's on the instrument's base track. So it might be easier 
than it seems to be to break this out to a separate QWS track.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 4:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List SV: Resending this as it didn't get any responses.

Hi Nicole,
Awesome answer.
Thank you so much. Now I have some serious good stuff to work with in the 
morning. 
Very kind of you!

Best regards
Brian

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Fra: mai...@andrelouis.com  På vegne af Nicole Massey
Sendt: 19. november 2020 23:23
Til: QWS list 
Emne: RE: QWS List Resending this as it didn't get any responses.

I responded to the first one -- did you not get it?

Here's what I replied:
First off, you can't view the lyrics in QWS, so you'll want to find some other 
way to view them.
Sonar, like almost every other sequencing program, makes some assumptions about 
what you want to do with MIDI data. QWS doesn't do this, so there's a bit of a 
learning curve at first but it's refreshing to not have a program making 
decisions for you. So open the type 0 file, perform a save as, and save as a 
type 1 file. It'll save every channel on a separate track.
You're probably going to find your program change and other data embedded in 
the track instead of in the properties window. You can leave it there or dig 
around for it and delete it and move it to properties. This may involve bank 
changes, possibly high definition bank changes on the track side, and if there 
are bank changes you'll need to convert them to high definition bank changes 
because that's the QWS default. (multiply low definition bank changes by 128 to 
get the high definition value) You can either dig around until you find 
something sent on CC0 immediately followed by CC32, or you can consult your 
best friend, the MIDI Implementation Chart, to find out what kind of bank 
changes it uses.
Make sense?

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 3:02 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Resending this as it didn't get any responses.

Dear QWS dudes, and Dudettes,

I can’t tell for sure, but I use some commercial midi files written 
specifically for Yamaha Tyros 5 that I’d like to edit and work with hopefully 
in QWS.

When I open them I get only one track, so I assume they are written in format 
0. On the other hand they fully open in Sonar with the data already separated 
on 15 tracks.

 

But there are more than just one strangeness involved here. 

They include lyrics, they include sysx, and when I do a channel split they 
don’t contain the program changes on the separate tracks created. Where do I 
fine these, and how?

Is it possible to view the lyrics in the file with QWS?

Can I remove all notes and controller information from track 0 so only the sysx 
data remains, or how would you clean up such files, so the data ain’t being 
sent double?

 

I hope this wasn’t too confusing? 

Thanks in advance.

 

Best regards

Brian

 

 


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RE: QWS List Resending this as it didn't get any responses.

[Nicole Massey]

I responded to the first one -- did you not get it?

Here's what I replied:
First off, you can't view the lyrics in QWS, so you'll want to find some other 
way to view them.
Sonar, like almost every other sequencing program, makes some assumptions about 
what you want to do with MIDI data. QWS doesn't do this, so there's a bit of a 
learning curve at first but it's refreshing to not have a program making 
decisions for you. So open the type 0 file, perform a save as, and save as a 
type 1 file. It'll save every channel on a separate track.
You're probably going to find your program change and other data embedded in 
the track instead of in the properties window. You can leave it there or dig 
around for it and delete it and move it to properties. This may involve bank 
changes, possibly high definition bank changes on the track side, and if there 
are bank changes you'll need to convert them to high definition bank changes 
because that's the QWS default. (multiply low definition bank changes by 128 to 
get the high definition value) You can either dig around until you find 
something sent on CC0 immediately followed by CC32, or you can consult your 
best friend, the MIDI Implementation Chart, to find out what kind of bank 
changes it uses.
Make sense?

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Olesen
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 3:02 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Resending this as it didn't get any responses.

Dear QWS dudes, and Dudettes,

I can’t tell for sure, but I use some commercial midi files written 
specifically for Yamaha Tyros 5 that I’d like to edit and work with hopefully 
in QWS.

When I open them I get only one track, so I assume they are written in format 
0. On the other hand they fully open in Sonar with the data already separated 
on 15 tracks.

 

But there are more than just one strangeness involved here. 

They include lyrics, they include sysx, and when I do a channel split they 
don’t contain the program changes on the separate tracks created. Where do I 
fine these, and how?

Is it possible to view the lyrics in the file with QWS?

Can I remove all notes and controller information from track 0 so only the sysx 
data remains, or how would you clean up such files, so the data ain’t being 
sent double?

 

I hope this wasn’t too confusing? 

Thanks in advance.

 

Best regards

Brian

 

 


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RE: QWS List A few questions about midi format 0 files

[Nicole Massey]

First off, you can't view the lyrics in QWS, so you'll want to find some other 
way to view them.
Sonar, like almost every other sequencing program, makes some assumptions about 
what you want to do with MIDI data. QWS doesn't do this, so there's a bit of a 
learning curve at first but it's refreshing to not have a program making 
decisions for you. So open the type 0 file, perform a save as, and save as a 
type 1 file. It'll save every channel on a separate track.
You're probably going to find your program change and other data embedded in 
the track instead of in the properties window. You can leave it there or dig 
around for it and delete it and move it to properties. This may involve bank 
changes, possibly high definition bank changes on the track side, and if there 
are bank changes you'll need to convert them to high definition bank changes 
because that's the QWS default. (multiply low definition bank changes by 128 to 
get the high definition value) You can either dig around until you find 
something sent on CC0 immediately followed by CC32, or you can consult your 
best friend, the MIDI Implementation Chart, to find out what kind of bank 
changes it uses.
Make sense?

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Olesen
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:46 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List A few questions about midi format 0 files

Hi,

I can’t tell for sure, but I use some commercial midi files written 
specifically for Yamaha Tyros 5 that I’d like to edit and work with.

When I open them I get only one track, so I assume they are written in format 
0. On the other hand they fully open in Sonar with the data already separated 
on 15 tracks.

 

But there are more then just one strangeness involved here. 

They include lyrics, they include sysx, and when I do a channel split they 
don’t contain the program changes on the seperat tracks created. Where do I 
fine these, and how?

 

Is it possible to view the lyrics in the file with QWS?

 

Can I remove all notes and controller information from track 0 so only the sysx 
data remains,or how would you clean up such files, so the data ain’t being sent 
double?

 

Best regards

Brian


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RE: QWS List Hello

[Nicole Massey]

MIDI code doesn't carry audio, so you need to route the output from the
keyboard into your computer. If you're not looking for the best fidelity you
can use some sort of cable to route your keyboard audio output to the line
in on your computer. (this assumes your computer has a line in input) Your
best bet is probably to go from the outputs of the keyboard to the computer
in, so that would require a dual quarter phone mono to miniphone stereo
cable. If you decide to go from your headphone jack instead you'll want to
get a stereo miniphone to stereo miniphone or quarter phone cable, depending
on which sized jack your keyboard has.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hall
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:36 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Hello

I have a problem with QWS. I will try to explaine. i have a USB cable hooked
up to my Yamaha keyboard and it goes to my computer at the other end. But
when I record a track or search for instruments to record with, I can not
hear from my computer speakers and I have to hear it from my ear phone jack
on my keyboard and the same when I hear the recording back I still have to
hear the sound from my keyboard with head phones. How do I correct the
problem so that when I record or hear my instruments from my computer
speakers. I hope I have explained this right to you and I would really
appreciate the help please thanks.


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RE: QWS List Translation pack wanted

[Nicole Massey]

There's another reason to get friendly with QWS -- it can serve as the MIDI 
editor for Reaper.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Olesen
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 4:19 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Translation pack wanted

Hi James,

I here by want to request your translation pack for QWS, so I can make it 
available to Danish speaking people as well.

 

I’d love to dive in to Reaper but as it’s so much under reconstruction these 
days I rather stick to a well known good sequencer for now, and to get to know 
it better why not translate it in the same process. 

 

Kind regards

Brian Olesen, Denmark

You can send it to: br...@blindkom.dk  

 


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RE: QWS List finding your midi files

[Nicole Massey]

In the search box do a Control+A to select them all, then copy and paste to
your backup location. One simple step to get them all.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 9:48 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List finding your midi files

Thanks. I thought I did that before but, when I did it just now, I see there
are files scattered all over the drive. 

Thanks for your help. I'll get to backing up those files now.

Best,
David


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From: mai...@andrelouis.com  On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 3:37 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List finding your midi files

Do a search on mid and this should turn up where it's storing them on the
hard drive.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:00 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List finding your midi files

Thanks Nicole,

I tried that but the midi files (except for the demo song) were not copied.

Not sure what to do except open each file one at a time and resave each into
my new directory where all new midi files show up.

I've searched around the OS for anything related to not seeing files in File
Explorer but none of those tricks work either. Plus, I've got all filetypes
and their extensions to show... it's just not making sense.

I did have a problem a couple of months ago where I had to uninstall and
reinstall QWS several times to get QWS to work. The issue was that, when I
opened a new track, I couldn't edit the name of the track or the midi
channel. I'm glad my midi files were retained through the uninstall and
reinstalls (even if only through the Save dialog) but it's just oh so
perplexing why I can't see those files in File Explorer.

Any other ideas?

I do appreciate your expertise,
David

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com  On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 3:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List finding your midi files

Go into the QWS save dialog and hit your backspace key. That'll give you an
idea of where the program is saving the files. That's a persistent space, so
you'll want to go back into the QWS directory. However, before you do that,
open up where you want to back up the QWS files, select the QWS directory in
the QWS save dialog, and copy the directory before going back into it. Paste
it where you want to save it. This works because the QWS file windows are
active windows and all standard windows commands work. I use it all the time
to move things around, rename files, and do other stuff. Handy.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 5:19 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List finding your midi files

I can create midi files in QWS and save them to the QWS directory and I see
all of my midi files while I'm in the Save or Save As dialog.

Thing is, when I traverse through Windows 10 "This" and find the QWS
directory, I don't see any of the midi files.

My intent is to back up those files but I can't find a way to view the files
to backup.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!


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RE: QWS List finding your midi files

[Nicole Massey]

Do a search on mid and this should turn up where it's storing them on the
hard drive.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:00 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List finding your midi files

Thanks Nicole,

I tried that but the midi files (except for the demo song) were not copied.

Not sure what to do except open each file one at a time and resave each into
my new directory where all new midi files show up.

I've searched around the OS for anything related to not seeing files in File
Explorer but none of those tricks work either. Plus, I've got all filetypes
and their extensions to show... it's just not making sense.

I did have a problem a couple of months ago where I had to uninstall and
reinstall QWS several times to get QWS to work. The issue was that, when I
opened a new track, I couldn't edit the name of the track or the midi
channel. I'm glad my midi files were retained through the uninstall and
reinstalls (even if only through the Save dialog) but it's just oh so
perplexing why I can't see those files in File Explorer.

Any other ideas?

I do appreciate your expertise,
David

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com  On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 3:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List finding your midi files

Go into the QWS save dialog and hit your backspace key. That'll give you an
idea of where the program is saving the files. That's a persistent space, so
you'll want to go back into the QWS directory. However, before you do that,
open up where you want to back up the QWS files, select the QWS directory in
the QWS save dialog, and copy the directory before going back into it. Paste
it where you want to save it. This works because the QWS file windows are
active windows and all standard windows commands work. I use it all the time
to move things around, rename files, and do other stuff. Handy.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 5:19 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List finding your midi files

I can create midi files in QWS and save them to the QWS directory and I see
all of my midi files while I'm in the Save or Save As dialog.

Thing is, when I traverse through Windows 10 "This" and find the QWS
directory, I don't see any of the midi files.

My intent is to back up those files but I can't find a way to view the files
to backup.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!


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RE: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable

[Nicole Massey]

Okay, still the question remains, are there two MIDI In ports (the round 5 pin 
DIN connector) on the back of the machine? If so then this is basically two 
multi-timbral instruments in one case. And does the USB connection have one or 
two ports in it? If so, then the machine driver should give you two ports in 
the list in QWS, assuming they built the driver correctly.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 1:49 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable

Hello.

So, I have received message from Yamaha. This is normal, so Yamaha can record 
for example 32-channels. Due to this, there are two ports. 
Another functions can be changed in midi edit settings.


Dňa 27. 10. 2020 o 10:29 Marco Oros napísal(a):
> Mostly to port one.
>
> But, for explanation, I have tried It also with standard MIDI and 
> there are only those GM functions.
>
> Another strange thing is, that when I have loaded It without drivers, 
> those ports are there and works. So, if I'll instal driver to My 
> keyboard, maybe It'll solve this problem, which I have, or not?
>
>
> Dňa 27. 10. 2020 o 0:01 Nicole Massey napísal(a):
>> If Yamaha did something like this with no way to disable it then 
>> they've made some very bad decisions.
>> Here's what I'm thinking is the case; correct me if I'm wrong about 
>> any of it, because this is based on standard practice, but Yamaha has 
>> a very long reputation for playing by their own rules. This keyboard 
>> (or is it a module) has a USB port along with MIDI In, 2 MIDI Outs, 
>> and a MIDI Thru. The USB is bi-directional, because they always are. 
>> You said one of the out ports only sends note data, possibly Yamaha's 
>> flavor of General MIDI (the XG sound set) while the other one sends 
>> sysex. Does the keyboard output to both ports when played, or only 
>> one? If it only passes sequencer data out of one of the ports and not 
>> local keyboard information that's not an out, it's a thru. It's 
>> possible that it's a combination out/thru, I guess.
>>
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>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marco Oros
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:27 PM
>> To: QWS list 
>> Subject: Re: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable
>>
>> Damien has right. We have written about It yesterday.
>>
>>
>> Dňa 25. 10. 2020 o 17:12 Damien Garwood napísal(a):
>>> Hi Nicole,
>>> If it's anything like my old Yamaha keyboard, it has one USB port that
>>> encompasses one input and two outputs, the very strange thing being
>>> that both of the two outputs enable or disable certain functionality,
>>> and both provide different sets of effects on the sounds (the second
>>> port on mine might sometimes even change the octave, which could make
>>> things very confusing).
>>> I'm guessing the first is for more GM based stuff while the second is
>>> the vendor-specific port? I'm no expert on this stuff but it certainly
>>> poses its challenges.
>>> I've been trying to establish Marco's situation all day so I can try
>>> and help him, not realising of course that virtual MIDI is different
>>> to virtual audio, in that you can't seem to chain cables together.
>>> Very frustrating.
>>> Having said that, I agree with you in that I don't think that's his
>>> solution - even if it were to be chained, because of the way the
>>> keyboard sends, receives, and processes data, my theory is you'll get
>>> doubled sound at best, or go into a feedback loop at worst.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Damien.
>>>
>>> On 25/10/2020 03:56 pm, Nicole Massey wrote:
>>>> If you're using a hardware device external to the computer a virtual
>>>> cable isn't going to do anything for you. Does your Yamaha have a USB
>>>> port? If it has only one then chances are good that'll have both
>>>> ports of information on it.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of Marco Oros
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 2:42 AM
>>>> To: QWS list 
>>>> Subject: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable
>>>>
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> I have a question. Do You know some virtual midi cable, who can

RE: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable

[Nicole Massey]

If Yamaha did something like this with no way to disable it then they've made 
some very bad decisions.
Here's what I'm thinking is the case; correct me if I'm wrong about any of it, 
because this is based on standard practice, but Yamaha has a very long 
reputation for playing by their own rules. This keyboard (or is it a module) 
has a USB port along with MIDI In, 2 MIDI Outs, and a MIDI Thru. The USB is 
bi-directional, because they always are. You said one of the out ports only 
sends note data, possibly Yamaha's flavor of General MIDI (the XG sound set) 
while the other one sends sysex. Does the keyboard output to both ports when 
played, or only one? If it only passes sequencer data out of one of the ports 
and not local keyboard information that's not an out, it's a thru. It's 
possible that it's a combination out/thru, I guess.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:27 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable

Damien has right. We have written about It yesterday.


Dňa 25. 10. 2020 o 17:12 Damien Garwood napísal(a):
> Hi Nicole,
> If it's anything like my old Yamaha keyboard, it has one USB port that 
> encompasses one input and two outputs, the very strange thing being 
> that both of the two outputs enable or disable certain functionality, 
> and both provide different sets of effects on the sounds (the second 
> port on mine might sometimes even change the octave, which could make 
> things very confusing).
> I'm guessing the first is for more GM based stuff while the second is 
> the vendor-specific port? I'm no expert on this stuff but it certainly 
> poses its challenges.
> I've been trying to establish Marco's situation all day so I can try 
> and help him, not realising of course that virtual MIDI is different 
> to virtual audio, in that you can't seem to chain cables together.
> Very frustrating.
> Having said that, I agree with you in that I don't think that's his 
> solution - even if it were to be chained, because of the way the 
> keyboard sends, receives, and processes data, my theory is you'll get 
> doubled sound at best, or go into a feedback loop at worst.
> Cheers,
> Damien.
>
> On 25/10/2020 03:56 pm, Nicole Massey wrote:
>> If you're using a hardware device external to the computer a virtual 
>> cable isn't going to do anything for you. Does your Yamaha have a USB 
>> port? If it has only one then chances are good that'll have both 
>> ports of information on it.
>>
>> Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marco Oros
>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 2:42 AM
>> To: QWS list 
>> Subject: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I have a question. Do You know some virtual midi cable, who can join 
>> My MIDI ports together?
>>
>> My Yamaha uses two MIDI port instead of one and some functions are 
>> divided between those two ports.
>>
>> Thank You.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Marco Oros
>>
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RE: QWS List finding your midi files

[Nicole Massey]

Go into the QWS save dialog and hit your backspace key. That'll give you an
idea of where the program is saving the files. That's a persistent space, so
you'll want to go back into the QWS directory. However, before you do that,
open up where you want to back up the QWS files, select the QWS directory in
the QWS save dialog, and copy the directory before going back into it. Paste
it where you want to save it. This works because the QWS file windows are
active windows and all standard windows commands work. I use it all the time
to move things around, rename files, and do other stuff. Handy.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 5:19 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List finding your midi files

I can create midi files in QWS and save them to the QWS directory and I see
all of my midi files while I'm in the Save or Save As dialog.

Thing is, when I traverse through Windows 10 "This" and find the QWS
directory, I don't see any of the midi files.

My intent is to back up those files but I can't find a way to view the files
to backup.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!


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RE: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable

[Nicole Massey]

If you're using a hardware device external to the computer a virtual cable 
isn't going to do anything for you. Does your Yamaha have a USB port? If it has 
only one then chances are good that'll have both ports of information on it.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 2:42 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Virtual MIDI cable

Hello.

I have a question. Do You know some virtual midi cable, who can join My MIDI 
ports together?

My Yamaha uses two MIDI port instead of one and some functions are divided 
between those two ports.

Thank You.

Best regards

Marco Oros

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RE: QWS List How is It with developing QWS?

[Nicole Massey]

I think James has been buried in other projects, but he intends to keep 
developing QWS. First off, have you talked to folks in the NVDA community to 
determine if it's an NVDA problem instead of QWS? If NVDA checks out, it'll 
make his job a lot easier if you can give him specific places where it isn't 
talking to you so he can look at that code.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2020 1:44 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List How is It with developing QWS?

Hello.

I am sorry for those question, but I have long time problems with QWS. 
After next update, items of the list are not spoken.

I use NVDA and Windows 10. What should I do now?

Due to this I am asking, if developing of QWS is continuing, or not? It was 
great software and I have also some ideas to this software too.

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros

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RE: QWS List Stuck on track name issue in QWS...

[Nicole Massey]

What happens if you record the track before trying to edit the properties?
How about pasting track content that you saved from another file? To
accelerator keys (like keystrokes that take you to the volume, pan, etc.)
work?
I agree, it does sound suspicious that this cropped up after installing
NVDA.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
David Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:56 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Stuck on track name issue in QWS...

I recently was re-introduced to an issue with QWS that I haven't seen in
months. It's apparent with JAWS, NVDA, and Narrator. Last time I experienced
the issue was on 6/23/2020. I was able to uninstall QWS, reinstall it, and
it worked again without issue until just recently when I updated to the
latest NVDA. It might be coincidence that it happened when I updated NVDA. I
see no evidence that it was something other than coincidence.

 

I'll describe the issue:

1.  I open QWS 1.56
2.  I pass the ctrl+insert (create a new track) keystroke through with
my screen reader.

a.  Note this issue is also apparent when I navigate to the
Track menu and press enter on insert new track

3.  I press enter on the new track to enter the name and no characters
are entered into the track name field.

a.  Also, at this point I can't tab to the channel field
b.  I can't press escape to get out of the track properties
dialog
c.  I can't alt+f4 to close down QWS.

The only thing I can do at this point is to go to the task manager and end
the QWS application.

 

Has anyone seen this issue? I've tried to uninstall QWS and reinstall it
like I did a couple of months ago but the issue persists after a reinstall.

 

Suggestions?

 

Much appreciated,

David

 


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RE: QWS List Open/save dialog with NVDA?

[Nicole Massey]

Nope, never found a reason to.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of David 
Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 10:15 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Open/save dialog with NVDA?

Lucky you, Nicole! Ever installed NVDA on the same system you use QWS on?


-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com  On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 7:19 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Open/save dialog with NVDA?

I've never had problems with Jaws and QWS. Works just fine for anything I want 
to do.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of David 
Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 9:11 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Open/save dialog with NVDA?

This is super interesting to me. I was using QWS (with JAWS) without any issue 
until I tried to look into the situation with NVDA that was recently described.

I updated to the latest NVDA and then I started experiencing accessibility 
issues. Not with the file save dialog, but with the ability to change anything 
in the track properties dialog (track name, track channel, etc).

I deleted NVDA from this machine and still get the same issue.

I had this happen once before... I removed QWS from my system and re-installed 
it and then had no further troubles. Uninstalling QWS and re-installing it 
hasn't worked to fix the issue like it did before.

So strange. Does NVDA and JAWS still conflict with each other? Is there still a 
group policy setting that causes access issues with both screen readers?

I was having so much fun with QWS until I tried to look into the issue 
described. I'm now officially bummed.

Happy music making (to those who still can), David





-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com  On Behalf Of Gavin 
Grundlingh
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 3:51 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Open/save dialog with NVDA?

Hi Damien,


I've seen this, too. I have no idea why this problem comes up, but I did find a 
fix for it. There are two methods to apply this fix.


1. If you have the Pro version of Windows 10, you can use the group policy 
editor.

Press Windows+R, type "gpedit.msc" and press Enter.

In the tree view, navigate to "Local Group Policy > User Configuration > 
Administrative Templates > Windows Components > File Explorer > Common Open 
File Dialog."

Tab to the list, select "Hide the Common Places Bar" and press Enter.

In the dialog that comes up, press Alt+E to select the "Enabled" radio button, 
then press Enter.

Close the group policy editor and restart your computer.


2. If you do not have Windows 10 Pro, or you prefer to get down and dirty with 
the registry, you can use Registry Editor.

Press Windows+R, type "regedit" and press Enter.

In the tree view, navigate to
"Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies."

Press Alt+E to go to the Edit menu, press N to select New, and then press K to 
select Key.

In the Key Name edit box, type "Comdlg32" and press Enter.

In the tree view, make sure your focus is on "Comdlg32," then tab to the list.

Press Alt+E to go to the Edit menu, press N to select New, and then press D to 
select DWORD (32-bit) Value.

In the Value Name edit box, type "NoPlacesBar" and press Enter.

In the list, arrow down to "NoPlacesBar" and press Enter.

In the Value Data edit box, type "1" and press Enter.

Close Registry Editor and restart your computer.


Hope this helps. Please let us know if it works for you.


Regards,


Gavin



On 30-Aug-20 20:10, Damien Garwood wrote:
> Hi,
> Are there any NVDA users on here? If so, have you had trouble with the 
> open/save-as dialogs in QWS at any point since November last year 
> (namely files and folders not reading in the browser list)?
> I started having this after a Windows update (from Windows 10 1809 to 
> 1909), but put it to one side in case it was some weird issue with my 
> four-year-old machine and some messy Windows garbleness. But it 
> doesn't seem to be...I'm getting the same behaviour on my new machine 
> (now running Windows 10 2004), as is a friend of mine who I'm 
> currently teaching to use it, also on a new machine.
> Unfortunately, I've no idea what could be causing the issue; QWS is 
> using a standard Windows dialog box, which NVDA has absolutely no 
> trouble accessing in other programs. To make matters even more 
> confusing, Narrator works fine with the QWS dialogs.
> I wrote to the NVDA list regarding this at the time it started but 
> noone could shed any light on the issue, and several subsequent 
> updates to NVDA and Windows don't 

RE: QWS List Open/save dialog with NVDA?

[Nicole Massey]

I've never had problems with Jaws and QWS. Works just fine for anything I want 
to do.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of David 
Engebretson Jr.
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 9:11 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Open/save dialog with NVDA?

This is super interesting to me. I was using QWS (with JAWS) without any issue 
until I tried to look into the situation with NVDA that was recently described.

I updated to the latest NVDA and then I started experiencing accessibility 
issues. Not with the file save dialog, but with the ability to change anything 
in the track properties dialog (track name, track channel, etc).

I deleted NVDA from this machine and still get the same issue.

I had this happen once before... I removed QWS from my system and re-installed 
it and then had no further troubles. Uninstalling QWS and re-installing it 
hasn't worked to fix the issue like it did before.

So strange. Does NVDA and JAWS still conflict with each other? Is there still a 
group policy setting that causes access issues with both screen readers?

I was having so much fun with QWS until I tried to look into the issue 
described. I'm now officially bummed.

Happy music making (to those who still can), David





-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com  On Behalf Of Gavin 
Grundlingh
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 3:51 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Open/save dialog with NVDA?

Hi Damien,


I've seen this, too. I have no idea why this problem comes up, but I did find a 
fix for it. There are two methods to apply this fix.


1. If you have the Pro version of Windows 10, you can use the group policy 
editor.

Press Windows+R, type "gpedit.msc" and press Enter.

In the tree view, navigate to "Local Group Policy > User Configuration > 
Administrative Templates > Windows Components > File Explorer > Common Open 
File Dialog."

Tab to the list, select "Hide the Common Places Bar" and press Enter.

In the dialog that comes up, press Alt+E to select the "Enabled" radio button, 
then press Enter.

Close the group policy editor and restart your computer.


2. If you do not have Windows 10 Pro, or you prefer to get down and dirty with 
the registry, you can use Registry Editor.

Press Windows+R, type "regedit" and press Enter.

In the tree view, navigate to
"Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies."

Press Alt+E to go to the Edit menu, press N to select New, and then press K to 
select Key.

In the Key Name edit box, type "Comdlg32" and press Enter.

In the tree view, make sure your focus is on "Comdlg32," then tab to the list.

Press Alt+E to go to the Edit menu, press N to select New, and then press D to 
select DWORD (32-bit) Value.

In the Value Name edit box, type "NoPlacesBar" and press Enter.

In the list, arrow down to "NoPlacesBar" and press Enter.

In the Value Data edit box, type "1" and press Enter.

Close Registry Editor and restart your computer.


Hope this helps. Please let us know if it works for you.


Regards,


Gavin



On 30-Aug-20 20:10, Damien Garwood wrote:
> Hi,
> Are there any NVDA users on here? If so, have you had trouble with the 
> open/save-as dialogs in QWS at any point since November last year 
> (namely files and folders not reading in the browser list)?
> I started having this after a Windows update (from Windows 10 1809 to 
> 1909), but put it to one side in case it was some weird issue with my 
> four-year-old machine and some messy Windows garbleness. But it 
> doesn't seem to be...I'm getting the same behaviour on my new machine 
> (now running Windows 10 2004), as is a friend of mine who I'm 
> currently teaching to use it, also on a new machine.
> Unfortunately, I've no idea what could be causing the issue; QWS is 
> using a standard Windows dialog box, which NVDA has absolutely no 
> trouble accessing in other programs. To make matters even more 
> confusing, Narrator works fine with the QWS dialogs.
> I wrote to the NVDA list regarding this at the time it started but 
> noone could shed any light on the issue, and several subsequent 
> updates to NVDA and Windows don't seem to have fixed it.
> In case anyone wants to test it, I'm using NVDA 2020.2 (although at 
> the time the problem started I was on 2019.2.1) and QWS 1.56.
> Cheers.
> Damien.
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RE: QWS List Shortcuts for Step Recording Notes

[Nicole Massey]

Yeah, the different editors are the part I have the most difficulty with,
probably because the sequencer I started out on did all this in a very
straightforward and fast to use way. It also had some wonderful ways to do
things like change duration, change pitch, fast transpose a note up or down
an octave, input multiple notes of the same value or change that set value
either before inserting or by dropping a duration into the clipboard to use
as a base for other step insertions, and changing the spacing of notes and
how you moved through the screen. Compared to that interface all the others
I've encountered seem slower and requiring more thought.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
milad abdulbaqi
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 9:14 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Shortcuts for Step Recording Notes

Dear James and QWS team, I have a question:

I am from Saudi Arabia and I started to use QWS and I like it so far for
editing the midis. However, recording live is a bit hard with the delay and
editing it takes time. I used another midi program where I could do a step
recording with an easier way. This way is to have a shortcuts for each note
that I want to play instead of using CTRL+E every time. 

On the other program I used F1 for 1/4 note, F2, for 1/8 note, F3 for 1/16
note and F4 for 1/32 note. Using this shortcut list helped me making many
midi songs. Unfortunately, this program isn't accessible with a screen
reader so I have to use my vision. Recent  versions are getting even more
painful and I even can't play the music like before. 

 

My suggestion is to add these shortcuts commands to the QWS screen keyboard
and use the  other shortcut for the rest bar..etc...  Also, if I could use
CTRL+E to write a note that is not existed  on the list with different
velocity, this would make the program way easier for me to use and make a
lot of music. I don't know if this is possible or not but if this happened
here that would make the program way more  accessible.

 

Thank you so much and sorry for the long message I hope it's clear.

 

Milad 

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RE: QWS List Instrument lists

[Nicole Massey]

A Roland support group may help. Also look for the Cakewalk definition file and 
that's a straightforward conversion using Gavin's little program.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Damien 
Garwood
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:52 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Instrument lists

Hi Nicole,
The DS comes in 61, 76 and 88 key machines, each one has the key number at the 
end of it, so I'm guessing they'll all have the same firmware and thus the same 
soundsets.
I can't seem to find a DS definition file, but then again my research skills 
aren't exactly up to scratch (Oftentimes I can't find something that other 
people have found in seconds).
The ini file is clear on the format of the lists (thank goodness), but it's 
deciphering the list on the manual that is the main issue.
Unfortunately, I don't have excel, and wouldn't know where to start in learning 
how to use it. If I can decipher the manual's notation, I'll probably write a 
script to automate it.
I have found the list of instruments in a manual called parameter lists, but 
after converting it from PDF into plaintext, the tables somehow became inverted 
and spread out into multiple lines, so I have a line full of numbers and a line 
full of instruments, then a line full of weird abbreviations, then more 
numbers, then some categories, and so on.
If I remember rightly, the same thing happened when I tried with my Yamaha 
keyboards some years ago.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 19/05/2020 09:44 pm, Nicole Massey wrote:
> What you want is a basic patch list with the bank and program numbers before 
> it. Everything else is unimportant for the most part. That said, there is one 
> area you might want to include, if it's a factor in the particular machine.  
> Some Roland gear uses multiple layers in a sound that subsequently reduce 
> available polyphony. It's useful to include that number at the end of the 
> patch name so you know why all those 4 layer sounds are cutting out. But this 
> may not even be a consideration on this machine, so check your manual to find 
> out if that particular instrument uses that feature.
> There's a way you might be able to save time though. It's a DS-88, 
> which to me implies that it might be an 88 key version of another synth from 
> their line. If that's the case and there's a definition file for it you're in 
> good shape. The next step is to find out if there's a Cakewalk definition 
> file for it. If so Gavin Grundling's Instavert can convert it to QWS format. 
> (This was a huge effort saver with my Kurzweil K2600 and my Wavestation SR) 
> But if you find no joy in those quarters, the basic format is channel, bank, 
> patch number, patch name. Certain non-alphanumeric characters throw an error, 
> and that requires shutting down and loading QWS to check for this.
> Coding your own set of definitions can be time consuming or fast and easy if 
> you know how to use Excel. I wrote a post here a while back explaining this 
> process, and a search on the list archives can pull it up for you. Hand 
> building one in a text editor is much slower.
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
> Of Damien Garwood
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:18 PM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: QWS List Instrument lists
> 
> Hi there,
> I've just got a Juno DS88, and I believe the downloadable instrument lists 
> only provide for a Juno-G and Juno Stage. Does anyone have a DS list they 
> would be willing to whiz across to me? If not, how would I go about 
> deciphering the list that is in the manual, bearing in mind, PDF, and all 
> that goes with it, including and the weird anomaly that is table format 
> inversion when converting to good old plaintext, and the fact that it 
> contains much more data than QWS needs that goes way over my head?
> Cheers.
> Damien.
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RE: QWS List Instrument lists

[Nicole Massey]

What you want is a basic patch list with the bank and program numbers before 
it. Everything else is unimportant for the most part. That said, there is one 
area you might want to include, if it's a factor in the particular machine.  
Some Roland gear uses multiple layers in a sound that subsequently reduce 
available polyphony. It's useful to include that number at the end of the patch 
name so you know why all those 4 layer sounds are cutting out. But this may not 
even be a consideration on this machine, so check your manual to find out if 
that particular instrument uses that feature.
There's a way you might be able to save time though. It's a DS-88, which to me 
implies that it might be an 88 key version of another synth from their line. If 
that's the case and there's a definition file for it you're in good shape. The 
next step is to find out if there's a Cakewalk definition file for it. If so 
Gavin Grundling's Instavert can convert it to QWS format. (This was a huge 
effort saver with my Kurzweil K2600 and my Wavestation SR)
But if you find no joy in those quarters, the basic format is channel, bank, 
patch number, patch name. Certain non-alphanumeric characters throw an error, 
and that requires shutting down and loading QWS to check for this.
Coding your own set of definitions can be time consuming or fast and easy if 
you know how to use Excel. I wrote a post here a while back explaining this 
process, and a search on the list archives can pull it up for you. Hand 
building one in a text editor is much slower.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Damien 
Garwood
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:18 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Instrument lists

Hi there,
I've just got a Juno DS88, and I believe the downloadable instrument lists only 
provide for a Juno-G and Juno Stage. Does anyone have a DS list they would be 
willing to whiz across to me? If not, how would I go about deciphering the list 
that is in the manual, bearing in mind, PDF, and all that goes with it, 
including and the weird anomaly that is table format inversion when converting 
to good old plaintext, and the fact that it contains much more data than QWS 
needs that goes way over my head?
Cheers.
Damien.

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RE: QWS List QWS Abandonedware

[Nicole Massey]

Using QWS for Reaper's MIDI editor makes MIDI editing a lot easier, and gives 
you more things you can do. It's sort of a perfect pairing.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Luis 
Carlos González Moráles
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2020 11:10 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List QWS Abandonedware

I'm using QWS always, however I'm slowely transitioning to Reaper, both as 
audio and midi editing.

Richard Wells wrote:
> I still use QWS daily and I hope it never goes away.
>
> On 5/9/2020 12:10 PM, Carlos Gonzalez wrote:
>> Hello All:
>>
>> When will QWS be declared as Abandoned-ware?  So, that some 
>> interested developers can take over the project and bring it 
>> up-to-date.  I know all about REAPER.  However! It's too big and 
>> complicated and for personal/hobbyist use QWS is better suited for 
>> personal use.
>>
>> Hope some developer will find QWS project worthy of his/her time!
>>
>> QWS is a very good software project for those of us who are blind 
>> and like making music for personal enjoyment!
>>
>> Thank You! For reading and responding to this message!
>>
>>
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RE: QWS List QWS Abandonedware

[Nicole Massey]

Nope, haven't managed to get anyone to agree to code it yet. I tweak the 
specification whenever I think of something else, but it's not even up to the 
status of vaporware yet.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Luis 
Carlos González Moráles
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2020 11:13 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List QWS Abandonedware

Were can I find qwsm? I'm thinking if it's in development.

Nicole Massey wrote:
> It's not abandoned, so it can't be deemed abandonware. James has been working 
> on other projects, but he's got a vast list of suggested improvements to work 
> with down the line.
> So I wouldn't hold your breath at it going abandoned anytime soon.
> You mentioned Reaper. QWS can work as the MIDI editor in Reaper, so that may 
> help in providing things like VST support and audio recording.
> Personally, I'd prefer the development of QWSM (Quick Windows Stage Manager) 
> so I could manage my live MIDI rig. I've got a full set of features and 
> specifications I'd like for a program like this.
>
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of 
> Carlos Gonzalez
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2020 12:11 PM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: QWS List QWS Abandonedware
>
> Hello All:
>
>   When will QWS be declared as Abandoned-ware?  So, that some interested 
> developers can take over the project and bring it up-to-date.  I know all 
> about REAPER.  However! It's too big and complicated and for 
> personal/hobbyist use QWS is better suited for personal use.
>
>   Hope some developer will find QWS project worthy of his/her time!
>
>   QWS is a very good software project for those of us who are blind and 
> like making music for personal enjoyment!
>
>   Thank You! For reading and responding to this message!
>
>
> --
> Carlos - Windows 10 Home, 64 Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 - NVDA Version 
> 2019.3
>
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QWS List MIDI File Requests

[Nicole Massey]

The last thread got me thinking. Here's what I'd like to have in MIDI files
for aiding in composition. I know some things like this are commercially
available, but it'd be useful to get more variety.
1.  My two Roland GK-2A divided hex pickup units are sitting in a box
near my head because the guitars they go on are still in parts. So I can't
generate files of guitar strums and other cool things. Someone out there
have a MIDI guitar that can create some of this kind of stuff?
2.  I'd like about 64 bars of random controller data on a single
controller. QWS does a great job of remapping controllers, but it doesn't
have a random value generator. With a lot of time I could do a deep dive
into the Standard MIDI File format and hand build the file after using
something like Excel to generate the random values, but I'd much rather do
this from whatever source someone might have to do this.
3.  Anyone up for transcribing a lot of ethnic drum patterns from a text
format to MIDI? I can't do this as fast as I used to  back in the day before
I lost my sight. I can send an interested party the documents to transcribe.
4.  I've got a lot of drum files I've cleaned up, but my EDM directory
is pretty lean. Some good basic EDM, Hip-hop, and Acid Jazz beats would be
cool.
Feel free to add to the list, and if there's anything I can help with I'll
be happy to do so.

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RE: QWS List QWS Abandonedware

[Nicole Massey]

It's not abandoned, so it can't be deemed abandonware. James has been working 
on other projects, but he's got a vast list of suggested improvements to work 
with down the line.
So I wouldn't hold your breath at it going abandoned anytime soon.
You mentioned Reaper. QWS can work as the MIDI editor in Reaper, so that may 
help in providing things like VST support and audio recording.
Personally, I'd prefer the development of QWSM (Quick Windows Stage Manager) so 
I could manage my live MIDI rig. I've got a full set of features and 
specifications I'd like for a program like this.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Carlos 
Gonzalez
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2020 12:11 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List QWS Abandonedware

Hello All:

 When will QWS be declared as Abandoned-ware?  So, that some interested 
developers can take over the project and bring it up-to-date.  I know all about 
REAPER.  However! It's too big and complicated and for personal/hobbyist use 
QWS is better suited for personal use.

 Hope some developer will find QWS project worthy of his/her time!

 QWS is a very good software project for those of us who are blind and like 
making music for personal enjoyment!

 Thank You! For reading and responding to this message!


--
Carlos - Windows 10 Home, 64 Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 - NVDA Version 
2019.3

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RE: QWS List Using QWS with a screen reader

[Nicole Massey]

I would suggest going through the manual then listening to the tutorials.  
You'll need to know how to configure things, then how to use the program, then 
from there you can incorporate some of the more advanced functions.
The good news is that it works very well with screen readers.

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Whitaker
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2020 5:26 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Using QWS with a screen reader 

Hello I am a blind musician. I downloaded QWS yesterday, and I’m trying to 
figure out how to use this software. I have my MIDI keyboard controller set up 
and everything. Can you help out?

 

 

 

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RE: QWS List copy only all notes from channel?

[Nicole Massey]

Simple. Go to the track you want to copy, Control+Home, Control+End,
Control+C. Go to where you want them copied and use Control+V, or if there
are already notes or other data on that track in that location,
Control+Shift+V. All are pretty much standard Windows keyboard commands.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Ales
Kuhar
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 2:18 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List copy only all notes from channel?

Hi!

How can I select all notes for example I have channel 11, and I want select
all only notes and xopy them in clipboard?

Ales Kuhar, Slovenia


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RE: QWS List Hello

[Nicole Massey]

Yes, a reset on your Yamaha would be a good idea if something's changed in
its response to MIDI commands.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 10:39 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Hello Nicole. My Yamaha is a S90ES and it is about 12 years old. I was able
to record with it up till about a month or so. Then, I tried again today and
it does not work. Do you think if I reset my midi settens on my Yamaha, will
that take care of the problem. Thanks for all of your help that you are
trying to give me. I really appreciate it thanks.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
Nicole Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:19 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Hmmm, how old is this Yamaha instrument you have? It sounds like it might
not be able to get MIDI data from multiple channels at the same time.
Do you have the manual for it? Yamaha has put all kinds of manuals online,
and in my experience it's a rare piece of gear that doesn't have a manual on
their site. If you have the manual go to the very last page in most cases,
where you'll find the MIDI Implementation Chart. This will tell you all
kinds of useful things about the instrument's MIDI response.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 7:23 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Hello again Nicole. I did what you told me to do, and it did not work. Then
I tried recording a track. When I did that it recorded the first track. Then
I tried to record another track with a different sound which was a base
sound. When I tried to chose the base sound for the second track I couldn't
get the base to pop up to record on that track. So that makes me believe
that it is not recognizing the instrument I chose. So where do I go from
thaire thanks.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
Nicole Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:12 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

First off, punctuation please. Sorry, I'm a writer, so that really bugs me
when folks don't use punctuation, and doubly so when it's a blind person who
claims it's a disability thing.
But on to the topic, it's a pretty simple layout here. Metronome ticks are
MIDI notes sent to whatever port you tell them to go to, sending whatever
notes you tell them to go to. So either you've got a configuration error in
your metronome page, or there's something not getting the message in your
sound source. Everything else is pretty much foolproof, and if the sequencer
can play and have your Yamaha play it back then there is no problem with
Windows, your MIDI interface if any, drivers, etc.
Double check your port. Check the note parameters for your ticks. Create a
track and get into the properties to set a preferred program on the right
channel, and set your volume to 127 just to be on the safe side. . This
should resolve your problem unless there's something wrong with your Yamaha,
either due to an intentional omission or something messed up in it.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:32 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Hello Nicole. Fir st of al thanks for your response. Yes I am trying to get
my metronome to play through my yahama and I can choose any sound to use to
record but I just can't hear the metronome through my head phones that I
have hooked to my Yamaha like I used to and I am not sure what you are
talking about as far as cleaning up things can you please give me more
directions on what to do thanks and again thanks for your help.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
Nicole Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:03 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Please explain exactly what you want to do. Are you trying to get the
metronome to play from your Yamaha sound source? If so then the first step
is to verify that your instrument has the sound you're looking for.
This is a problem in the realm of MIDI, not something dealing with operating
system stuff, so the reasons why this isn't working tend to be fairly simple
to figure out. My suspicion is that your Yamaha doesn't have anything on the
channel or on those particular keys. Sound layouts differ between
instruments.
One other thing -- if your Yamaha is XG compatible send an XG reset from
QWS. This tends to clean out some problems too.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf

RE: QWS List Hello

[Nicole Massey]

Hmmm, how old is this Yamaha instrument you have? It sounds like it might
not be able to get MIDI data from multiple channels at the same time.
Do you have the manual for it? Yamaha has put all kinds of manuals online,
and in my experience it's a rare piece of gear that doesn't have a manual on
their site. If you have the manual go to the very last page in most cases,
where you'll find the MIDI Implementation Chart. This will tell you all
kinds of useful things about the instrument's MIDI response.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 7:23 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Hello again Nicole. I did what you told me to do, and it did not work. Then
I tried recording a track. When I did that it recorded the first track. Then
I tried to record another track with a different sound which was a base
sound. When I tried to chose the base sound for the second track I couldn't
get the base to pop up to record on that track. So that makes me believe
that it is not recognizing the instrument I chose. So where do I go from
thaire thanks.

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
Nicole Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:12 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

First off, punctuation please. Sorry, I'm a writer, so that really bugs me
when folks don't use punctuation, and doubly so when it's a blind person who
claims it's a disability thing.
But on to the topic, it's a pretty simple layout here. Metronome ticks are
MIDI notes sent to whatever port you tell them to go to, sending whatever
notes you tell them to go to. So either you've got a configuration error in
your metronome page, or there's something not getting the message in your
sound source. Everything else is pretty much foolproof, and if the sequencer
can play and have your Yamaha play it back then there is no problem with
Windows, your MIDI interface if any, drivers, etc.
Double check your port. Check the note parameters for your ticks. Create a
track and get into the properties to set a preferred program on the right
channel, and set your volume to 127 just to be on the safe side. . This
should resolve your problem unless there's something wrong with your Yamaha,
either due to an intentional omission or something messed up in it.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:32 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Hello Nicole. Fir st of al thanks for your response. Yes I am trying to get
my metronome to play through my yahama and I can choose any sound to use to
record but I just can't hear the metronome through my head phones that I
have hooked to my Yamaha like I used to and I am not sure what you are
talking about as far as cleaning up things can you please give me more
directions on what to do thanks and again thanks for your help.

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
Nicole Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:03 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Please explain exactly what you want to do. Are you trying to get the
metronome to play from your Yamaha sound source? If so then the first step
is to verify that your instrument has the sound you're looking for.
This is a problem in the realm of MIDI, not something dealing with operating
system stuff, so the reasons why this isn't working tend to be fairly simple
to figure out. My suspicion is that your Yamaha doesn't have anything on the
channel or on those particular keys. Sound layouts differ between
instruments.
One other thing -- if your Yamaha is XG compatible send an XG reset from
QWS. This tends to clean out some problems too.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of mike
hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 2:04 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Hello

I sent a message back to the group regarding the problem I was having with
qws. The settings in the metronome are set right I think. It works when I
choose to use it in qws but when I set it for my Yamaha it does not work, so
how do I fix it to work when I choose the Yamaha. It used to work and I
wonder if it is because I went to the latest version of windows 10 or is
there a setting in centrol panel to get it to work. Please mhelp me with
this problem thanks. 

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RE: QWS List Hello

[Nicole Massey]

First off, punctuation please. Sorry, I'm a writer, so that really bugs me
when folks don't use punctuation, and doubly so when it's a blind person who
claims it's a disability thing.
But on to the topic, it's a pretty simple layout here. Metronome ticks are
MIDI notes sent to whatever port you tell them to go to, sending whatever
notes you tell them to go to. So either you've got a configuration error in
your metronome page, or there's something not getting the message in your
sound source. Everything else is pretty much foolproof, and if the sequencer
can play and have your Yamaha play it back then there is no problem with
Windows, your MIDI interface if any, drivers, etc.
Double check your port. Check the note parameters for your ticks. Create a
track and get into the properties to set a preferred program on the right
channel, and set your volume to 127 just to be on the safe side. . This
should resolve your problem unless there's something wrong with your Yamaha,
either due to an intentional omission or something messed up in it.

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-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:32 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Hello Nicole. Fir st of al thanks for your response. Yes I am trying to get
my metronome to play through my yahama and I can choose any sound to use to
record but I just can't hear the metronome through my head phones that I
have hooked to my Yamaha like I used to and I am not sure what you are
talking about as far as cleaning up things can you please give me more
directions on what to do thanks and again thanks for your help.

-Original Message-
From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of
Nicole Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:03 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: RE: QWS List Hello

Please explain exactly what you want to do. Are you trying to get the
metronome to play from your Yamaha sound source? If so then the first step
is to verify that your instrument has the sound you're looking for.
This is a problem in the realm of MIDI, not something dealing with operating
system stuff, so the reasons why this isn't working tend to be fairly simple
to figure out. My suspicion is that your Yamaha doesn't have anything on the
channel or on those particular keys. Sound layouts differ between
instruments.
One other thing -- if your Yamaha is XG compatible send an XG reset from
QWS. This tends to clean out some problems too.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of mike
hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 2:04 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Hello

I sent a message back to the group regarding the problem I was having with
qws. The settings in the metronome are set right I think. It works when I
choose to use it in qws but when I set it for my Yamaha it does not work, so
how do I fix it to work when I choose the Yamaha. It used to work and I
wonder if it is because I went to the latest version of windows 10 or is
there a setting in centrol panel to get it to work. Please mhelp me with
this problem thanks. 

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RE: QWS List Hello

[Nicole Massey]

Please explain exactly what you want to do. Are you trying to get the
metronome to play from your Yamaha sound source? If so then the first step
is to verify that your instrument has the sound you're looking for.
This is a problem in the realm of MIDI, not something dealing with operating
system stuff, so the reasons why this isn't working tend to be fairly simple
to figure out. My suspicion is that your Yamaha doesn't have anything on the
channel or on those particular keys. Sound layouts differ between
instruments.
One other thing -- if your Yamaha is XG compatible send an XG reset from
QWS. This tends to clean out some problems too.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of mike
hall
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 2:04 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Hello

I sent a message back to the group regarding the problem I was having with
qws. The settings in the metronome are set right I think. It works when I
choose to use it in qws but when I set it for my Yamaha it does not work, so
how do I fix it to work when I choose the Yamaha. It used to work and I
wonder if it is because I went to the latest version of windows 10 or is
there a setting in centrol panel to get it to work. Please mhelp me with
this problem thanks. 

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RE: QWS List Using Qcon Icon Pro G2 with QWS

[Nicole Massey]

You know that you can use QWS as your Reaper MIDI editor, right?

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Suscík
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:21 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Using Qcon Icon Pro G2 with QWS

Hello James,

I very much appreciate your answer. I already have Qcon Pro G2 surface, so I 
can play with it:-) The surface can send any note or CC message. If I touch 
some fader, the surface also sends special note. Each fader has buttons for 
soloing, mutting, arming and selecting. These buttons also send Midi notes. Is 
it possible in QWS to jump to specific track after receiving certain Midi note? 
Or turn solo, mute or arm on specific track according to received Midi note?
I think QWS is perfect app for creating Midi and I would like to use my surface 
in QWS as much as possible. I tried it in Reaper where it works perfectly but 
it seems to me that working with Midi in Reaper is not so comfortable as in QWS.
Best regards

Marek

Dne 14.3.2020 v 20:44 JAMES BOWDEN napsal(a):
> Hello Marek,
>
> I am not certain that you will be able to assign control knobs and 
> sliders to set particular things in QWS. QWS just deals with the 
> incoming MIDI. So, if your conroller can output a MIDI CC#7 (volume),
> CC#10 (pan) etc when you move the controls, all is well. QWS has no 
> way of mapping an arbitrary set of control knobs to particular function.
>
> You can set one MIDI controller to assign to another, in the MIDI 
> Assign options dialog, but this is not a general solution for all 
> controllers.
> You could also try moving the knob or slider when in the appropriate 
> Track Properties dialog, on the particular field, but I am unsure if 
> QWS will always pick this up.
>
> If you already have the control surface, I would encourage you to 
> experiment.
> If you are thinking of purchasing the control surface, I can offer you 
> no guarantees that it will work.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
>
> With best regards,
>
> James.
>
>
> Original Message
> From: msus...@volny.cz
> Date: 13/03/20 18:11
> To: qws@AndreLouis.COM
> Subject: QWS List Using Qcon Icon Pro G2 with QWS
>
> Dear friends,
>
>
>
> is it possible to use Daw surface Qcon Icon Pro G2 with QWS? It has 
> Mackie, Logic, Hui and User defined protocols. In User defined you can 
> assign Midi messages to any of its controlls.
>
> In QWS there is Key commands dialog in which I can assign commands to 
> surface buttons. But I would like also assign faders to set volume of 
> tracks, encoders to for example pan and so on. Faders are motorized 
> and touch sensitive, so it would be perfect to use these features in QWS.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help.
>
> With best regards
>
>
>
> Marek Suscik
>
>
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RE: QWS List Soundfonts etc.

[Nicole Massey]

You need a sound font player. It can make a huge difference -- I've got over 
16,000 sounds loaded in the 19 sound font banks I use, some of which are 
commercially available (proteus 1,2, & 3, and the Mellotron bank I picked up) 
while others are from various freeware sites.
I like BassMIDI, but there are other players out there. And you'll probably 
want to get comfortable setting bank and program numbers in Viena as you start 
to build your own collection of sounds.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
Williams
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 2:01 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Soundfonts etc.

Hi all, I have been using QWS for some time now and am basically very pleased 
with it. Over the years I have seen frequent referenceS to soundfonts on these 
emails. I’ve never really looked into it. What are the advantages of 
soundFonts, what would I need to use them with my keyboard and Windows 
computer? Is there a central reference place where I can find information about 
how soundfonts work et cetera.
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RE: QWS List Question about reducing delay

[Nicole Massey]

Maybe. Probably. Check he latency settings and lower them until you start to
get sound quality or response problems. And if you're using the Microsoft
Wavetable synth stop doing that, because it's a total latency pig. Go to
BassMIDI or Coolsoft and load some nice sound fonts and you'll be much
happier.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Sam
Doman
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 8:02 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Question about reducing delay 

Hi all,
So I was wondering is there a way to reduce the delay time when pressing a
key on my midi keyboard and hearing the sound?
Thanks.

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RE: QWS List Question regarding drum kits in keyboards for example

[Nicole Massey]

This is a vast question. Manufacturers implement these things in many ways. And 
though some things are almost always included, everything, and I mean 
everything in MIDI is optional. (Yes, even note on, note off, channel, and MIDI 
mode) Name something you think MIDI always have to do and I can tell you a 
piece of gear that doesn't use it.
Hate to keep sounding like a broken record here, but check your instrument's 
MIDI Implementation Chart.  This is going to tell you how the instrument 
responds to MIDI. They're not hard to read, and it'll often tell you things you 
never suspected. This is your first place to look for information about your 
gear. Back in the day it was the last page of the manual, inside the back 
cover, but that's changed a bit and you'll need to check your table of contents 
to find it. Check the top to be sure how it codes yes and no, often with an X 
or * or o, and take your time working through the list.
You may also find patch numbers for drum kits in the patch list. If you have 
these you're going to be able to access them from MIDI. Often these are 
available on channel 10 and/or 11, sometimes 16. It'll make your job a lot 
easier if you can find an instrument definition file for QWS. Barring that find 
it for Cakewalk and use Gavin Grundling's Instavert program to convert it. 
(Works great)

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Subject: QWS List Question regarding drum kits in keyboards for example

Hi,

 

is it possible to use the internal drum kits of Entertainer Keyboards for 
example with the help of QWS to build beats and such with them, Kind of like a 
drum machine. The Keyboards I have have such an ammount of drum kits with lots 
of samples, that I think it could be practical to use those for such Things as 
well. Can QWS help here or can such Things only be used with Special Software 
for the specific Keyboard Model? The drums could be used for replacing a drum 
machine or to enrich them, since lots of drum kits in such devices have drum 
Computer samples in them.

 

Thank you.

 

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RE: QWS List OT: Another question regarding recording

[Nicole Massey]

There are several that other blind folks have used.
You'll get more about this on other mailing lists. I've seen several recorders 
mentioned on the midimag...@mailman.midimag-xt.org list, but since I do all my 
recording on the computer I didn't take note of them. That mailing list will 
give you a lot of answers for non-QWS questions.

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Hi again,

 

another Question from me:

are there Hardware Recorders wich you can recommend or use yourself for Music 
Recordings? Are there usable ones for us if the Computer shouldn’t be used or 
if I simply want to have the possibility to record my Instruments and such 
without the Computer or smartphone?

 

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RE: QWS List AW: Question regarding Midi controllers

[Nicole Massey]

All of this comes down to one thing -- the MIDI Implementation Chart found most 
often in the back of the manual. Yes, most of these instruments can do some 
things via system exclusive messages, but you want things to use those 128 
continuous controller messages, and to find that out the place to go is that 
chart.
Knowing what is currently available changes all the time, so it'll take some 
focused attention to know what's out there. Roland, Yamaha, and Akai seem to be 
the main companies playing with this, but I haven't dealt with this in a while. 
(Except guitar, as we're going to put a "hex" pickup on both the ones I'm 
having built)
On to the question of controllers: I had an Akai EVI for a while. It didn't do 
too much with controllers, but it did all kinds of subtle things with pitch 
bend. And the breath sensor could send channel aftertouch, volume, (CC7) or 
Breath Control. (CC2) The sound module didn't have a MIDI in, so it was only 
for responding to the interface. (This sort of sucked, as it was a nice 
subtractive synth in its own right) It also handled pedal initiated program 
changes, and some of the programs could be programmed with chord responses, so 
it'd send more than the single not you were playing. I know that would take 
some time to work up, and I never used that functionality, because I had 
keyboards around and I spent enough time learning to use it I didn't have the 
energy to dig too deep into programming the thing. But I cut some very 
interesting leads with it, and I miss it. Was it close enough to a valved brass 
instrument? No way, so much of what you had to do was extremely different. I 
could go into a protracted list. But treated in its own right it's an 
interesting way to turn finger and breath action into MIDI information.
One more thing. You seem to be focused a lot on what you can buy new. That's 
going to limit your options a lot. So much cool stuff came out, didn't get the 
huge reception the manufacturers wanted, and got remaindered out to the 
liquidators. And in most cases that was because most alternate controllers 
require chops to get the best out of them. Roland is still making a hex pickup 
based guitar synth interface, based on conversations I had last week with my 
guitar guy. They may still make the Handsonic, though I don't know that for 
sure, and they probably have a couple of drum kit type interface options. 
Yamaha is probably still making the breath controller that can plug into a jack 
in some synthesizers. I'm not sure what they're doing with woodwind and string 
based interfaces. The Morrison Digital Trumpet and Synthophone are probably 
still made, because those are crafted instruments, not manufactured. I think 
Nile Steiner is still making his own one off EVI and EWI models, and Akai may 
still make the EWI 4000, which is the most versatile wind controller I've heard 
about. (Sax, flute, recorder, and valved brass modes, at the very least) And 
there are probably other companies who are still making things, but I haven't 
dug into this for a long time. You're going to have to do the research on your 
own, but you've got the internet to use for searching, so you should find out 
what you want to know using what I've given you above.

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Ah, okay, so with QWS they are useable, that is a good Thing. I am interested 
in such with internal sounds as well, such as the Roland Aerophone, but don’t 
know how accessible it is if the internal Features are used, so that it is a 
solo Instrument itself.

Are there good to use ones with a few internal sounds? I don’t mean full 
Keyboards and such, but Controllers where the internal Sound module is the 
secondary function and it’s main Purpose is the Controller. At best, the 
Controllers would be even useable to us without a Computer, just with other 
Hardware Instruments or with the internal stuff.

And it should be Controllers wich are still available on the market.

 

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Betreff: RE: QWS List Question regarding Midi controllers

 

First off, note that the use of the word "controller" has two meanings -- a way 
to get music into the sequencer as an interface, most often tactile. And the 
continuous controllers.

The short answer is that all of them that have MIDI capability are 
interoperable with QWS. This covers a wide array of options.

Wind/Breath Controllers: Casio saxophone-like controller; Akai EVI and EWI 
models;

RE: QWS List Question regarding Midi controllers

[Nicole Massey]

First off, note that the use of the word "controller" has two meanings -- a way 
to get music into the sequencer as an interface, most often tactile. And the 
continuous controllers.
The short answer is that all of them that have MIDI capability are 
interoperable with QWS. This covers a wide array of options.
Wind/Breath Controllers: Casio saxophone-like controller; Akai EVI and EWI 
models; Synthophone; Morrison Digital Trumpet; The full range of Yamaha wind 
controllers like the WX7, WX1, WX11, and Windjammer; Yamaha BC1 and BC2 breath 
controllers
Percussion Controllers: Roland Octapad, Octopad 2, and Handsonic; Korg Zen 
Drum; KAT OctaveKAT, MalletKAT, DrumKAT, and MIDI K.I.T.I.; Simmons Silicon 
Mallet and various MIDI pad controllers; Yamaha pad controllers like the DD5
Plucked and Bowed Strings: Casio guitar controller; Roland GR300, GR500, GR700, 
and GK series of hex pickups; Yamaha G10; Zeta MIDI violins and other bowed 
strings; Yamaha MIDI strings options; Systems 360 bass guitar system (not 
remembering the model name of this right now)
This is not a comprehensive list, just what comes to mind this morning. Also 
include the neural interfaces that allow you to use brain waves to generate 
musical data and a bunch of other non-standard things. I also left out the 
range of keyboard controllers, as that'd be an out of date list and would have 
to include breakouts due to type of action, number of keys, wearable 
controllers, etc.
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Subject: QWS List Question regarding Midi controllers

Hi all,

 

do you know any usable midi Controllers for use in combination with QWS and 
Hardware Instruments?

>From what I read, the keystep and beatstep pro from arturia as well as the 
>Roland SQ-1 as Hardware sequencers seem to be useable, as well as the korg 
>Triton tactile, wich is an Controller with internal sounds as well. I saw even 
>wind Controllers like the Roland aerophone AE10, wich has internal sounds as 
>well and seems to be interesting, too. Has anyone experiences with it? And I 
>am interested in your recommendations in regards to midi Controllers, be it 
>with or without own internal sounds.

 

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RE: QWS List AW: Hello to the list

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I don't do much with changing parameters -- I do pretty much all of that stuff 
through MIDI controller messages.
Everything from Kurzweil up to the 2661 is blind accessible, because of the 
instrument maker's history. Ray Kurzweil wasn't looking to make musical 
instruments until Stevie Wonder thought of musical applications for the voice 
sampling system Ray was using. Since these instruments were designed with blind 
users in mind everything from the beginning (K250, K150, etc.) included the 
front panel status in their sysex messages. Applications like Kurlewin for 
Windows and Object Mover for the earlier Mac operating systems, Microsoft DOS, 
and the Atari ST could read those front panel values to the user. KDR, a 
program created by the Scramenti brothers, also would read that front panel 
info. Kurzweil's new owners, Samick, stopped including this information in the 
PC3X and later products. But should I want to I should be able to get the front 
panel data from all 13 of my 1000 series instruments and also the K2600ex. This 
can be useful for things like the chain linking function where the MIDI note 
stream is divided across multiple modules. So for instance, I could play a 
single layer sound on the Pro1/K1000 SE bank and have no note stealing across 
the playable range of any controller keyboard out there, with one exception. 
(The very rare Bielfus Performance Synthesizer has 128 keys, so I'd get note 
stealing on 8 voices if I played a piano or harp gliss, though the top and 
bottom notes wouldn't sound much like a piano anyway, as that's outside the 
range of the instrument by about 40 notes, slightly less when dealing with 
extended range pianos like the Bosendorfer Imperial) The cool part of this is 
that those modules are pretty cheap these days, and thanks to a very cool guy 
named Dr. David Brown (RIP, David) Kurzweil has made the upgrades available to 
anyone who either has or knows someone with a chip burner. These instruments 
are cool, but they're a lot more cool when upgraded all the way. And the 1000GX 
is pretty much unique, as it contains very nice samples of guitar and bass. 
(Which is why it shouldn't surprise you much that I have four of these modules)
I haven't gotten a chance to integrate the bass station and a station into my 
rig. Besides the room for the studio, I'll need sighted assistance and several 
new cable snakes to get everything set up the way I want it.
One of the reasons why I suspect a lot of blind folks go the software route is 
the complications of hardware scare them off. Not only do you need to set up 
the instrument, but there's cabling, getting levels, creating any program maps, 
and finding or creating  a definition file for QWS. This last task is easier 
thanks to one of the members of the list, who created a program that can 
convert Cakewalk definitions to the much simpler QWS format. But changing your 
sounds also means updating the definition file, and that's a lot more 
bookkeeping. So that may be why many folks aren't either getting into hardware 
gear or programming their own sounds. (I've built my own subtractive synthesis 
sounds from the ground up, but I also don't do that much anymore, and though I 
understand some of the very basic stuff about FM synthesis I'm not going to try 
to build my own sounds, as just about every usable sound has been created 
already) The folks who create their own sounds are rare these days, unless 
you're talking about the C Sound crowd, where sound creation is a fundamental 
part of creating the music.

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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 6:44 PM
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Subject: QWS List AW: Hello to the list

Hi,

 

wow Nicole, that’s a lot of gear. And I thought I have many stuff here Right 
now. There are still Things that I want to have but in some cases I am unsure 
if they are usable for blind People. People with sight have no Limits, but 
blind People have to look for what they take at best.

Little machines like the volca series or the PO’s by teenage enginiring are 
cool because i can get something Maybe as a gift on Birthday or Christmas 
because of theier pricing, wich makes my parents other Family members happy, so 
they have some Gifts I can touch, instead of just Money or such.

>From what I read, the bass Station II, the circuit and the circuit mono 
>Station by Novation could be usable for blinds, has anyone experiences with 
>them? And can somebody say something About the two OP devices by teenage 
>enginiring, the OP-1 and the OP-z? Can they be used as well? I hope it is okay 
>if I ask here, because like I said, in the whats app Group, the blind People 
>who use Hardware are very rare and I hope to find more People on here who are 
>blind as well and can help with such Questions Maybe.

 

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RE: QWS List AW: Hello to the list

[Nicole Massey]

I'll deal with handshaking first. Roland devices ping the sysex source on a 
regular basis and they won't send or receive anything until their ping is 
answered. So it goes like this:
You start to send a system exclusive message.
The Roland device sends back a query.
Your device responds to that query.
This happens multiple times in a system exclusive transaction. They see this as 
a feature, not a bug, but it does mean that data transfers to/from Roland 
devices need to be done using a patch editor and or librarian. So far I haven't 
found an accessible one of those.
My studio has been mothballed since December of 2009. I need a 1.5-2 car 
garage, enclosed and finished out, to have enough room for everything. (drums, 
sound gear, mixers, etc.) I'll limit this to MIDI gear since that's the topic 
of conversation, or those things I'm looking to get MIDI connected in the 
future. This is by port, so I can keep things straight in my mind.
Port 1: Oberheim Matrix 6r, Roland MT-32, 2 Yamaha TX802s, Sequential Prophet 
T8, Moog The Source, Oberheim OB3
Port 2: E-mu Proteus 1, 4 Kurzweil 1000gx modules, Alesis D4
Port 3: 2 Ensoniq EEPSMs
Port 4: Oberheim Matrix 1000, Roland D-110, Ensoniq MR Rack
Port 5: 4 Kurzweil Pro1s, Kurzweil K1000 SE MkII Extended, fully upgraded to a 
Pro76, 4 Kurzweil Pro2s
Port 6: Novation A-Station, Novation Bass Station, Yamaha DX7IIFD, Alesis DM 
Pro, Proteus 1XR, and Korg Wavestation SR.
Port 7: All the FX gear in the audio FX rack.
Port 8: Roland JV-1080, Korg M1, room for expansion
Port 9: Kurzweil K2600EX
Controllers: Kurzweil k2600EX and K1000 SE MkII Extended, Sequential Prophet 
T8, Korg M1, and M-Audio Axiom-61. Two guitar controllers will also be added to 
the mix soon so I can stop having to simulate strums and chords on a keyboard.
This is a static environment when it's up and running -- I don't change patches 
in the machines, instead relying on the "brute force approach" Rick Wakeman 
used to have the sounds I want to use on hand. The rig makes sense to me, but 
probably would be confusing to most other people at first, as it evolved from 
one port to two and then four and then eight. Since the rig has been mothballed 
I've used software to get as much of the same sounds as possible. I'm missing 
the Oberheim stuff and several others, but the goal is to get as much simulated 
as possible so I don't have to carry a rack with me when performing live. I 
still want the studio up and running again though, as software doesn't have all 
those output stages that are designed to make the synthesis/sample playback 
engine sound the best it can, and there's something awe inspiring when you hear 
about 80 rack spaces of gear playing for you.

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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:22 PM
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Subject: QWS List AW: Hello to the list

Hi,

 

thank you first for the detailed and friendly answers and the warm welcome. I 
am happy to see that I am not the only one who likes Hardware. I am in a whats 
app Group with blind musicians, but they mostly use Software, but I like the 
Advantages Hardware has and I haven’t to use the PC every time I want to make 
Music.

At the Moment I own the Roland BK-5, the Yamaha genos and a few Little synths, 
the bigger ones are the Korg microkorg and the arturia Minibrute 2. I like the 
Volca series and the Monotrons as well for what they are. What I realy like 
About smaller synths is that they are often underrated in the Things they can 
do. I still have some Mixers and FX boxes but I can’t exactly remember the 
Models at the Moment. I luckily had the opportunity to have a room wich was 
unused in my flat so I began to make a home Studio out of it.

I realy like this Hobby, since Music and experementing with sounds is simply 
fun and realy interesting.

What is your Setup guys? I am open for recomendations regarding synths and such 
wich can be used as a blind Person, since from time to time i buy some new or 
other devices if affordable.

But in General, I don’t make Music as a Profession, it is a fun and interesting 
Hobby to me and so I don’t have to take it too serious and the best is, I can 
do and produce what I like, not what the masses want.

@nicole: What do you mean with Handshaking? And are there Solutions to this on 
Roland devices?

Looks as I have found the Right place over here, cool.

 

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Yes, you can do a dump/load from some instruments by using the sequencer's 
sysex features. This may not work all that well for instruments that require 
handshaking, like pretty much everything Roland has ever made since the Jupiter 
6.
Depends on what you mean by portable. It's a Windows only program, but you can 
install to a thumb drive and run it anywhere that has some sort of MIDI pathway 
to a sound source. Note that hardware based setups and anything with driver 
level sound sources won't work very well if you change systems. Theoretically 
it should work on Windows based tablets and phones, but I don't know of anyone 
who's tried it.
QWS works well with most hardware synths, with a couple of caveats. You've got 
to hand insert bank changes for Oberheim and earlier Kurzweil machines because 
QWS uses only the more standard CC0/32 standard for bank changes. And make sure 
you go over your MIDI specification sheet, as if the device doesn't respond to 
a particular controller or function it'll get no response from the message 
sent. This is especially important when dealing with controllers 0-31, All 
Notes Off, All Controllers Off, Local of/on, and NRPN/RPN based stuff. Also 
with tune request messages.

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Subject: QWS List Hello to the list

Hi to all,

 

my Name is Niklas and I am new on here and new to QWS as well. I am blind and 
more Kind ofa Hardware guy in Terms of Music Instruments. I think that QWS can 
be helpful together with Keyboards, synths and the like. I am not against 
complete DAW’s in General, but if a Tiny program like QWS, wich don’t Need a 
powerful Computer can do the Job, I prefer such Things.

My first Question is: Is there a portable Version of QWS available or possible 
to make as well? I just found the installer, but to have a portable Version 
would be nice as well.

Another Question: As I researched on Hardware synths, I stumbled across Midi 
Dumps/patch Dumps. Is it possible to make and Send as well as importing and 
exporting them with QWS? I found the idea amazing to use the PC as Kind of a 
preset storage with These Dumps and send them to the Instrument directly, if i 
understood this correctly.

And if it is not too offtopic here or if it is okay to talk About, I am 
interested in recommendations regarding Synths, samplers and such wich we Blind 
users can use. I can share what my Setup is at the Moment as well, but only if 
that is okay.

I hope for a good time on here.

 

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RE: QWS List Instrument definition help again please

[Nicole Massey]

Note that you can prep things for dropping into a spreadsheet -- the find and 
replace in Notepad does things that other text editing programs can't, like 
being able to replace a dash with a tab that lets you drop things into 
spreadsheets and have things wind up in different columns. It can speed things 
a lot.
Glad my prior instructions helped out.

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Subject: RE: QWS List Instrument definition help again please

Hi Nicole

 

Thanks so much for responding.

 

I have found the instructions on the list archive since I posted this question, 

So I am busy using a spreadsheet program to input the required 

Data from my instrument’s data list.

 

Another 2 hours and I should be done with the project.

 

I have a Yamaha DGX640.

 

Thanks again for responding – so appreciate it!

 

David

 

 

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Subject: RE: QWS List Instrument definition help again please

 

Okay, first I need to ask two questions.

1.Do you have a patch list for the instrument? It can be a list in 
text format or it can be a Cakewalk instrument definition file. (This is the 
easier way if you can get it)

2.How does your chosen instrument handle bank change commands? If 
it was made before the mid-90's then this isn't a difficult question, it 
handles them using only the MSB. (controller 0) After that you'll find this out 
on the MIDI Implementation Chart in the back of the manual or end of the manual 
file.

Also, what data resources do you have on your computer? Notepad is a given, but 
do you have Excel? This makes it a *lot* easier but it's not mandatory.

 

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Hi All

 

 

Sorry to bother, but due to both my one and only PC and a backup hard drive 
packing up within a week of each other, I have to go through all the pains of 
getting hardware and software setup again on new pc.

 

 

Can you please help me with instructions to make an instrument definition file? 
 Saved it, and lost it!

 

 

Went to look on the QWS site, but couldn’t find it under articles or FAQ.

 

 

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RE: QWS List Instrument definition help again please

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Okay, first I need to ask two questions.
1.  Do you have a patch list for the instrument? It can be a list in text 
format or it can be a Cakewalk instrument definition file. (This is the easier 
way if you can get it)
2.  How does your chosen instrument handle bank change commands? If it was 
made before the mid-90's then this isn't a difficult question, it handles them 
using only the MSB. (controller 0) After that you'll find this out on the MIDI 
Implementation Chart in the back of the manual or end of the manual file.
Also, what data resources do you have on your computer? Notepad is a given, but 
do you have Excel? This makes it a *lot* easier but it's not mandatory.

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Subject: QWS List Instrument definition help again please

Hi All

 

Sorry to bother, but due to both my one and only PC and a backup hard drive 
packing up within a week of each other, I have to go through all the pains of 
getting hardware and software setup again on new pc.

 

Can you please help me with instructions to make an instrument definition file? 
 Saved it, and lost it!

 

Went to look on the QWS site, but couldn’t find it under articles or FAQ.

 

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RE: QWS List Suggestions?

[Nicole Massey]

There are other options besides MIDIYoke. Try LoopMIDI or Maple Leaf for other 
virtual MIDI cables. Or you might find some other choices if you search using 
the parameter virtual+MIDI+cable+Windows+10. Also ask on other lists.
This is fundamental to getting stand alones or VSTs to work at the current time.
Another option is to run Reaper and assign QWS as your MIDI editor. I know 
folks who've had success with this.
As for Sound Fonts, you want a driver solution for this. BassMIDI and Coolsoft 
both will do this. These programs install as drivers so you access them like 
you would the (horrid, laggy, crappy) Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth. They'll 
show up in your ports list like all other MIDI ports. Read the documentation 
before trying an install, as you'll need to use the Add Hardware wizard to get 
the best results. Avoid the 2.x versions of BassMIDI -- they've got latency 
issues thanks to the engine they used for that version.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:25 AM
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Subject: QWS List Suggestions?

Hello Again!

 Thank You! For responding to my query about QWS development!

 Now, I would really appreciate some suggestions from you about which 
programs/software I can use to play my MIDI controller keyboard using MIDI 
soundfonts as well as VST instruments

 As a side note MIDI Yoke will not even install on Windows 10. Apparently, 
Windows 10 does not like old dinosaur programs/software!

 So, when using QWS to use VST instruments.  How does one connect in an 
accessible way QWS to VST instruments?

 If my questions/queries are not on topic here?  Please! Kindly direct me 
to where they will be on topic?

 I do like QWS and hope that it will have a very bright future moving 
forward!

 Thank You! For all your kind and helpful responses to all of my messages!!!


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RE: QWS List QWS Development?

[Nicole Massey]

I'll take it one step farther. All keyboard problems are either instrument 
definition issues, connection issues, or user issues like not knowing the 
instrument or not hooking things up or not reading the instrument's MIDI 
Implementation Chart and understanding what it means. The third category also 
includes expecting the keyboard to do something it can't do. MIDI can be 
complex, but it isn't convoluted -- it's a very straightforward protocol, and 
if you have a keyboard that responds to MIDI, a MIDI interface QWS can 
recognize, (which means a MIDI interface Windows can recognize) and good 
functional MIDI cables hooked up the right way it'll work. But beyond that 
you've got to know what the instrument can and can't do, and that's outlined in 
the instrument's MIDI Implementation Chart. Though they're sometimes not 
available for some software synths, and this is a violation of the MIDI 
specification because they are required even more than 5 pin DIN cables or a 
virtual equivalent and 16 channels, It's extremely rare not to have one in the 
back of a hardware instrument's manual. And everything you need to know to make 
the instrument respond (if it can) is there on the page. It's one of the two 
most important things you need to make QWS do what you want it to. (The other 
is either an instrument definition file or a patch list you can use to create 
the instrument definition file, or even a Cakewalk instrument definition file 
that you can convert using Gavin's wonderful program)

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
Wells
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 7:12 PM
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Lots of keyboard issues turn out to be instrument definitions. With Nicole's 
help, my wife was able to use Excel to create one for my particular keyboard: 
the Casio Privia 350. It works perfectly.

On 5/6/2019 2:49 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
> Refresh my memory -- was it a QWS problem or a keyboard problem? We can only 
> do what we have information to try to resolve, and many keyboards bring their 
> own issues to the situation and that isn't QWS's fault.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
> Of Marco Oros
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 2:36 PM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: Re: QWS List QWS Development?
>
> I don't think, that QWS is in active development.
>
> For example My keyboard not very well work with QWS. I have tried to solve 
> this problem, but people here, sorry for this expression, burried their heads 
> in the sand.
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RE: QWS List QWS Development?

[Nicole Massey]

Refresh my memory -- was it a QWS problem or a keyboard problem? We can only do 
what we have information to try to resolve, and many keyboards bring their own 
issues to the situation and that isn't QWS's fault.

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Oros
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 2:36 PM
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I don't think, that QWS is in active development.

For example My keyboard not very well work with QWS. I have tried to solve this 
problem, but people here, sorry for this expression, burried their heads in the 
sand.

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RE: QWS List Looking for better sounds

[Nicole Massey]

That's going to take a web search to get it, as I don't keep the url. If
you're running anything past XP you want the 3.x version, as 1.x won't run
properly and 2.x has latency issues.
As for sounds, there are archives all over the place with them in it. A
search for sound fonts download should turn up useful things.
You'll probably want Viena too. Search it up on the web.

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Doman
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:38 PM
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Subject: Re: QWS List Looking for better sounds

Cool! Could you maybe tell me where I could get bass midi and maybe tell me
of some good sounds? I'm actually pretty now to this sort of thing. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Richard Wells  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Nicole: I am saving this so you don't have to recreate it again.
> 
>> On 4/22/2019 9:22 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:
>> It's fairly simple. First you need a virtual MIDI cable application. I've
not set this up on a system later than XP so far, so I used the Sonic
Foundry Virtual MIDI Router to do the job. There are several others that
work on later machines, like Maple Leaf, LoopMIDI, Loop30, (which you have
to pay for) and probably a lot of others.
>> 1.Install the virtual MIDI cable.
>> 2.Activate the Proteus VX stand alone. (Not the VST) Find the stock
instrument definition file and load it. Go to the settings or options( not
sure which one, as it's been a very long while since I did this) and set
your MIDI input device to the virtual cable. Also set your outputs to
whatever you're using.
>> 3.Locate the instrument definition file for the Proteus VX and put it
in your QWS directory on your hard drive. You have to do this before you
start up QWS, as it surveys all files that start out with INST in that
directory on startup and doesn't update the list. I think I've sent that
file on to James, but if not let me know and I'll send it. Note: Proteus VX
uses high definition bank data. This means banks aren't multiplied by 128,
you increment them by one. I haven't dealt with adding more instruments to
the Proteus VX yet, but I'm going to try it at some point, as a friend of
mine converted some of my sounds into a Proteus VX bank. But back on topic,
trust me, you don't want to create the definition file unless you've got
some strong chops in creating them. I've done dozens of them, and I've
encountered this structure only twice. (The other one was the Kurzweil
K2600, and it'll use any of the three structures -- low definition, high
definition, and old Kurzweil/Oberheim)
>> 4.Fire up QWS. The virtual MIDI cable or cables should show up in
your port list. Go to the menu with Metronome, Instruments, etc. and go to
the port list. Find the virtual MIDI cable you used as a MIDI input to the
Proteus VX and change the port name to Proteus VX to make things easier. Go
to the Instrument list in that same directory and select the Proteus VX
port, then assign the definition file to the Proteus VX entry.
>> You should be good to go at that point. Be aware that I used grouping
labels on the definition file, because there are so many things that needed
them, and because the first group of patches are a hodge podge of different
sounds in no clear logical order. Also remember that I'm doing this from
memory when I last set this up at least five years ago. If I slipped a gear
somewhere I apologize.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Wells
>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:28 PM
>> To: QWS list 
>> Subject: Re: QWS List Looking for better sounds
>> 
>> Nicole: Since you brought up Proteus VX, would you consider providing
steps to get it working with QWS? I have it here, but cannot figure out
where to start. I have been using Cool Soft with sound fonts, but I would
love to get this going. Thank you so much for all of the answers you give us
here. You are a valuable resource.
>> 
>>> On 4/22/2019 11:45 AM, Nicole Massey wrote:
>>> Yes. There are several options of varying levels of complexity.
>>> Your simplest option is to load a sound driver like BassMIDI or 
>>> Coolsoft and fill it with cool sounds you download from the web. 
>>> Your level of involvement can vary from loading a GS sound font bank 
>>> and leaving it alone to downloading every sound you can get your 
>>> hands on and building a multi-bank sound font layout in Viena (note 
>>> that's not a typo) to create a map of sounds. Note that this will 
>>> also require building an instrument definition file too, but Viena 
>>> outputs patch lists so it's not as difficult as it could be. This is 
>>> the only option that will let you share your .mid fil

RE: QWS List Looking for better sounds

[Nicole Massey]

It's fairly simple. First you need a virtual MIDI cable application. I've not 
set this up on a system later than XP so far, so I used the Sonic Foundry 
Virtual MIDI Router to do the job. There are several others that work on later 
machines, like Maple Leaf, LoopMIDI, Loop30, (which you have to pay for) and 
probably a lot of others.
1.  Install the virtual MIDI cable.
2.  Activate the Proteus VX stand alone. (Not the VST) Find the stock 
instrument definition file and load it. Go to the settings or options( not sure 
which one, as it's been a very long while since I did this) and set your MIDI 
input device to the virtual cable. Also set your outputs to whatever you're 
using.
3.  Locate the instrument definition file for the Proteus VX and put it in 
your QWS directory on your hard drive. You have to do this before you start up 
QWS, as it surveys all files that start out with INST in that directory on 
startup and doesn't update the list. I think I've sent that file on to James, 
but if not let me know and I'll send it. Note: Proteus VX uses high definition 
bank data. This means banks aren't multiplied by 128, you increment them by 
one. I haven't dealt with adding more instruments to the Proteus VX yet, but 
I'm going to try it at some point, as a friend of mine converted some of my 
sounds into a Proteus VX bank. But back on topic, trust me, you don't want to 
create the definition file unless you've got some strong chops in creating 
them. I've done dozens of them, and I've encountered this structure only twice. 
(The other one was the Kurzweil K2600, and it'll use any of the three 
structures -- low definition, high definition, and old Kurzweil/Oberheim)
4.  Fire up QWS. The virtual MIDI cable or cables should show up in your 
port list. Go to the menu with Metronome, Instruments, etc. and go to the port 
list. Find the virtual MIDI cable you used as a MIDI input to the Proteus VX 
and change the port name to Proteus VX to make things easier. Go to the 
Instrument list in that same directory and select the Proteus VX port, then 
assign the definition file to the Proteus VX entry.
You should be good to go at that point. Be aware that I used grouping labels on 
the definition file, because there are so many things that needed them, and 
because the first group of patches are a hodge podge of different sounds in no 
clear logical order. Also remember that I'm doing this from memory when I last 
set this up at least five years ago. If I slipped a gear somewhere I apologize.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
Wells
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:28 PM
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Subject: Re: QWS List Looking for better sounds

Nicole: Since you brought up Proteus VX, would you consider providing steps to 
get it working with QWS? I have it here, but cannot figure out where to start. 
I have been using Cool Soft with sound fonts, but I would love to get this 
going. Thank you so much for all of the answers you give us here. You are a 
valuable resource.

On 4/22/2019 11:45 AM, Nicole Massey wrote:
> Yes. There are several options of varying levels of complexity.
> Your simplest option is to load a sound driver like BassMIDI or 
> Coolsoft and fill it with cool sounds you download from the web. Your 
> level of involvement can vary from loading a GS sound font bank and 
> leaving it alone to downloading every sound you can get your hands on 
> and building a multi-bank sound font layout in Viena (note that's not 
> a typo) to create a map of sounds. Note that this will also require 
> building an instrument definition file too, but Viena outputs patch 
> lists so it's not as difficult as it could be. This is the only option 
> that will let you share your .mid files as long as you keep to GS 
> sounds, as the GS sound list is common to all modern machines. (As 
> you've already found out with the laggy Microsoft
> wavetable)
> Your next level of engagement involves downloading a good freeware 
> synth, preferably a sample playback/"ROMpler" program and setting up a 
> virtual MIDI cable to connect things together. It'll show up in QWS as 
> a MIDI port, and it's helpful to rename that port in QWS so it tells 
> you where that particular port is going. Again, unless you're dealing 
> with a well-known synth, like Proteus VX, you'll need to create a definition 
> file.
> Another option is to use a virtual MIDI cable to connect to VSTHost or 
> another VST manager. This is flexible, as it allows you to set 
> individual VST Sound sources on each channel. It takes more work, and 
> again it'll require you to create a definition file if you want the 
> program names to show up in your list.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
> Of Sam Doman
> Sent: Sunday, April 21,

RE: QWS List Need help

[Nicole Massey]

I know of no way to use FX with QWS unless you run it as a player in another 
DAW, like Reaper.  (this of course excludes the reverb and chorus that QWS can 
access if the player can do them)
I like BassMIDI for sound font playback. Others have their favorites. These are 
"Driver" synths that install directly into the OS of your system. If you dig 
around you might be able to find Roland's Virtual Sound Canvas or Yamaha's 
Virtual XG synth, though these tend to have a bit of latency. If you want to 
use VST synths then you'll need a VST "wrapper" to make it possible along with 
a virtual MIDI cable. Virtual MIDI cables are also the way to connect to 
stand-alone synths.

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Thompson
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 11:18 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Need help

hello, it’s tyrone again, been off and on with QWS for a second, but, have had 
some problems. I wanna use this because this is easy since I’m blind, but now 
comes the hard part, what’s a good player to include virtual instruments with 
QWS? Well, I’d like to use a mix of virtual instruments and effects and 
soundfonts. Also, the tempo, dynamics and ornaments are giving me problems. 
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RE: QWS List Playback delay, and midi files?

[Nicole Massey]

Or, you can tell Reaper to use QWS as your MIDI editor and save a lot of time 
in trying to learn how to do MIDI things in Reaper. I know some folks who do 
this and get excellent results.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of JAMES 
BOWDEN
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 4:00 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Playback delay, and midi files?

Hi Matt,

The answer is no, the cut off notes is not because you have recorded using a 
playback delay in QWS.

The QWS setting for playback delay means that QWS will send all the initial 
track settings, then wait a little and only then start the playback proper. The 
idea is that some synths - like yours and mine - take a little time to process 
things like program changes, typically setting up the effects processors.

No additional data is saved or altered in the MIDI file because of the Playback 
Delay setting.

So, for example, if you set the Playback Delay to 0 in QWS, I reckon you will 
probably have exactly the same problem as you're experiencing playing your 
files in in Reaper.

The solution to your problem is to insert some blank beats at the beginning of 
each track, to give that time that your synth needs to process, before the 
first notes are sent.

I trust this helps.

God bless,

James.


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From: meturner2...@gmail.com
Date: 15/03/2019 19:47
To: "QWS list"
Subj: QWS List Playback delay, and midi files?

Hi folks.

Trying to move over to reaper.

So, all of the midi files I've recorded with my MOXF keyboard, the playback 
delay was set to 400.

When putting these midi files in to reaper, there's a chopping at the beginning 
of the sound.

Just wondering if recording with the playback delay set at 400 could have  
anything to do with this?

Note, I'm using my MOXF keyboard in reaper, to trigger the same sounds.

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RE: QWS List Question about using QWS with the M audio oxygen 49 keyboard.

[Nicole Massey]

Do we have an audio tutorial on this? If not...
There are several options out there depending on what sounds you're looking
for and if you want to spend anything or not.
Of the possible options driver based solutions seem to be the least fuss.
These install as a driver on your system, and then you load sounds into
them. I like BassMIDI myself, but others here will give you other options.
Using a VST host you can use all kinds of sound sources in that particular
format, but you're going to need some more instruction on setting it up and
a bit more fiddling around to get things working.
That Blue Yeti isn't going to do anything with QWS, as it only works in
audio, not MIDI. And an understanding of what MIDI is about takes several
sessions to cover, just for the basics. Still, it's an extremely robust
protocol that's been around for about 36 years.

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Doman
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:37 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Question about using QWS with the M audio oxygen 49
keyboard.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Sam Doman  wrote:
> 
> I amusing a Blue yeti microphone as my soundcard, if that's what you are
meaning. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:
>> 
>> What are you using for your sound source? That can be a big part of 
>> the problem.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sam Doman
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 6:29 PM
>> To: QWS list 
>> Subject: Re: QWS List Question about using QWS with the M audio 
>> oxygen 49 keyboard.
>> 
>> Hmm. Whenever I have all the options set right, I'm still not getting 
>> any sound. Could it be something with the channels? I'm kind of new 
>> to this whole music production thing.??
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Jason Bratcher 
wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Thursday 1 3 19 1:27, Sam Doman wrote:
>>>> Hi. So I installed QWS on my computer and I have a midi controler 
>>>> with no
>> built-in sounds. I have tried to connect it to the program, but I am 
>> not able to play with my controler. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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>>> If your keyboard natively connects via a USB cord, turn on the 
>>> piano's
>> power via the switch, plug both ends in and let Windows 'see" the device.
>>> I had an M-Audio Keystudio (also with 49 keys) that used a common 
>>> USB
>> printer cable with a squared end on the opposite side for the piano
proper.
>>> Make sure QWS is not already running!
>>> Open QWS and go to Options Ports.
>>> If a "MIDI In Devices" section appears here, your piano got picked up.
>>> Arrow down to its entry then Tab over to give a unique name to the 
>>> device
>> in QWS.
>>> Just for a laugh, I was thinking to call it "Breathe" or "Breath" 
>>> (or
>> better, "Air".
>>> Then Tab over to the "Use This Port" checkbox making sure it's checked.
>>> Shift+Tab twice back to the list because you'll need a default output
too.
>>> And unfortunately for most of us newbies who haven't been there or 
>>> done
>> that before, it's the crappy Microsoft WaveTable.
>>> Arrow down to this entry  (Which even claims "Use Cautiously") and 
>>> Tab
>> over to "Use This Port" checkbox to tick this as well.
>>> Say OK and now we go to Options \ Instruments.
>>> In here, the Microsoft table will be the only device listed.
>>> Tab over to the drop-down list and choose "General MIDI Instrument".
>>> Say OK here and we're off to the races.
>>> BTW, the latency on this output device is incorrigibly horrible, but 
>>> it'll
>> have to do.
>>> Care to open a MIDI file (with a .mid extention)?
>>> --
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RE: QWS List Question about using QWS with the M audio oxygen 49 keyboard.

[Nicole Massey]

The Oxygen has no sounds of its own, so you need a sound source, either as a
connected MIDI device or as something in your computer. Don't use the MS
Wavetable Synth, it has latency problems.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Sam
Doman
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 5:29 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Question about using QWS with the M audio oxygen 49
keyboard.

I amusing a Blue yeti microphone as my soundcard, if that's what you are
meaning. 

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> On Jan 23, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Nicole Massey  wrote:
> 
> What are you using for your sound source? That can be a big part of 
> the problem.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf 
> Of Sam Doman
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 6:29 PM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: Re: QWS List Question about using QWS with the M audio oxygen 
> 49 keyboard.
> 
> Hmm. Whenever I have all the options set right, I'm still not getting 
> any sound. Could it be something with the channels? I'm kind of new to 
> this whole music production thing.??
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Jason Bratcher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thursday 1 3 19 1:27, Sam Doman wrote:
>>> Hi. So I installed QWS on my computer and I have a midi controler 
>>> with no
> built-in sounds. I have tried to connect it to the program, but I am 
> not able to play with my controler. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
>>> Sent from my iPhoneTo unsubscribe or change list options, see 
>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see 
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
>> If your keyboard natively connects via a USB cord, turn on the 
>> piano's
> power via the switch, plug both ends in and let Windows 'see" the device.
>> I had an M-Audio Keystudio (also with 49 keys) that used a common USB
> printer cable with a squared end on the opposite side for the piano
proper.
>> Make sure QWS is not already running!
>> Open QWS and go to Options Ports.
>> If a "MIDI In Devices" section appears here, your piano got picked up.
>> Arrow down to its entry then Tab over to give a unique name to the 
>> device
> in QWS.
>> Just for a laugh, I was thinking to call it "Breathe" or "Breath" (or
> better, "Air".
>> Then Tab over to the "Use This Port" checkbox making sure it's checked.
>> Shift+Tab twice back to the list because you'll need a default output
too.
>> And unfortunately for most of us newbies who haven't been there or 
>> done
> that before, it's the crappy Microsoft WaveTable.
>> Arrow down to this entry  (Which even claims "Use Cautiously") and 
>> Tab
> over to "Use This Port" checkbox to tick this as well.
>> Say OK and now we go to Options \ Instruments.
>> In here, the Microsoft table will be the only device listed.
>> Tab over to the drop-down list and choose "General MIDI Instrument".
>> Say OK here and we're off to the races.
>> BTW, the latency on this output device is incorrigibly horrible, but 
>> it'll
> have to do.
>> Care to open a MIDI file (with a .mid extention)?
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RE: QWS List Question about using QWS with the M audio oxygen 49 keyboard.

[Nicole Massey]

What are you using for your sound source? That can be a big part of the
problem.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Sam
Doman
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 6:29 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Question about using QWS with the M audio oxygen 49
keyboard.

Hmm. Whenever I have all the options set right, I'm still not getting any
sound. Could it be something with the channels? I'm kind of new to this
whole music production thing.??

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> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Jason Bratcher  wrote:
> 
>> On Thursday 1 3 19 1:27, Sam Doman wrote:
>> Hi. So I installed QWS on my computer and I have a midi controler with no
built-in sounds. I have tried to connect it to the program, but I am not
able to play with my controler. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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> If your keyboard natively connects via a USB cord, turn on the piano's
power via the switch, plug both ends in and let Windows 'see" the device.
> I had an M-Audio Keystudio (also with 49 keys) that used a common USB
printer cable with a squared end on the opposite side for the piano proper.
> Make sure QWS is not already running!
> Open QWS and go to Options Ports.
> If a "MIDI In Devices" section appears here, your piano got picked up.
> Arrow down to its entry then Tab over to give a unique name to the device
in QWS.
> Just for a laugh, I was thinking to call it "Breathe" or "Breath" (or
better, "Air".
> Then Tab over to the "Use This Port" checkbox making sure it's checked.
> Shift+Tab twice back to the list because you'll need a default output too.
> And unfortunately for most of us newbies who haven't been there or done
that before, it's the crappy Microsoft WaveTable.
> Arrow down to this entry  (Which even claims "Use Cautiously") and Tab
over to "Use This Port" checkbox to tick this as well.
> Say OK and now we go to Options \ Instruments.
> In here, the Microsoft table will be the only device listed.
> Tab over to the drop-down list and choose "General MIDI Instrument".
> Say OK here and we're off to the races.
> BTW, the latency on this output device is incorrigibly horrible, but it'll
have to do.
> Care to open a MIDI file (with a .mid extention)?
> --
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RE: QWS List Local on and off problem

[Nicole Massey]

Be sure you're starting the sequence at the beginning for your volume and pan 
controllers. QWS only sends those at the beginning, and it doesn't "chase" 
controllers to find the most recent value like most other modern sequencers do. 
So you're only going to get those values at the beginning of a track.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 2:51 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Local on and off problem

Yeah.

I have tried also with both ports, but sometimes It behaves very strange It 
looks, like a controlers are divided between those two ports.

For example when I have used one and use transpose function, It transposed 
correctly. But with second, It is very strange, but It just work fine with for 
example scale tuning.

But strange thing is, that volume of instruments are changed very strangely in 
those two ports, when I switched to another musical instrumentt.

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RE: QWS List Local on and off problem

[Nicole Massey]

Yeah, the first column is transmit, the second is receive, IIRC. So your 
keyboard doesn't transmit local on/off, (CC122) but does receive it.
I'm guessing that your keyboard has both MIDI and USB. Chances are good that 
this means that if you use the USB connection the keyboard acts as a MIDI 
interface for the MIDI ports it also has. Use the first port for your keyboard 
and the second port for anything hooked up via MIDI cables.
Have you done what I said about trying it on all channels yet? This may resolve 
your problem.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:48 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Local on and off problem

There are two parametrex, x and o for local on/off messages.

I have tried everything, but It doesn't work.

Also, there are two ports for my keyboard. I don't know also, why.

Dňa 27. 12. 2018 o 21:14 Nicole Massey napísal(a):
> Okay, it receives local off messages. Excellent, though mystifying why you're 
> not having them work. Make sure you're sending on the keyboard's base MIDI 
> channel and on the right port. You may need sighted help to find the base 
> channel. Or there's the "Bases Loaded" approach. Set the sequencer channel's 
> MIDI channel to 1, play the sequence, then see if local is off. Repeat for 
> channels 2-16. If none of them turn local off, set channel to 0 and try that. 
> If it doesn't then you've got something where your keyboard is ignoring MIDI 
> messages of certain types. Check that the keyboard is responding to volume 
> and pan commands, and if so then consult your manual for more information, 
> because if none of the local off methods work there's something odd going on.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
> Oros
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 1:36 PM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: Re: QWS List Local on and off problem
>
> I have read, that x means no.
>
> Dňa 27. 12. 2018 o 16:58 Nicole Massey napísal(a):
>> Yes, makes perfect sense, and yet it doesn't. Let me explain.
>> What your MIDI Implementation Chart tells here is that it has different 
>> responses for transmitted and received local messages. The 122  is good 
>> news, as it's dealing with the right controller. Now go to the top of your 
>> chart, and find out two things. Find out if the first column is the transmit 
>> column, and also find out what x and o mean on that chart. Because this 
>> instrument does one thing and not the other, otherwise the values of the two 
>> columns would be different.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Marco Oros
>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:22 AM
>> To: QWS list 
>> Subject: Re: QWS List Local on and off problem
>>
>> OK, I have looked on It and there are following things about local
>> functions:
>>
>> :Local ON/OFF x o(122)
>>
>> Note, New Adobe reader viewes tables very strange. But, do You understand 
>> those things, or not?
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RE: QWS List Local on and off problem

[Nicole Massey]

Okay, it receives local off messages. Excellent, though mystifying why you're 
not having them work. Make sure you're sending on the keyboard's base MIDI 
channel and on the right port. You may need sighted help to find the base 
channel. Or there's the "Bases Loaded" approach. Set the sequencer channel's 
MIDI channel to 1, play the sequence, then see if local is off. Repeat for 
channels 2-16. If none of them turn local off, set channel to 0 and try that. 
If it doesn't then you've got something where your keyboard is ignoring MIDI 
messages of certain types. Check that the keyboard is responding to volume and 
pan commands, and if so then consult your manual for more information, because 
if none of the local off methods work there's something odd going on.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 1:36 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Local on and off problem

I have read, that x means no.

Dňa 27. 12. 2018 o 16:58 Nicole Massey napísal(a):
> Yes, makes perfect sense, and yet it doesn't. Let me explain.
> What your MIDI Implementation Chart tells here is that it has different 
> responses for transmitted and received local messages. The 122  is good news, 
> as it's dealing with the right controller. Now go to the top of your chart, 
> and find out two things. Find out if the first column is the transmit column, 
> and also find out what x and o mean on that chart. Because this instrument 
> does one thing and not the other, otherwise the values of the two columns 
> would be different.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
> Oros
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:22 AM
> To: QWS list 
> Subject: Re: QWS List Local on and off problem
>
> OK, I have looked on It and there are following things about local
> functions:
>
> :Local ON/OFF x o(122)
>
> Note, New Adobe reader viewes tables very strange. But, do You understand 
> those things, or not?
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RE: QWS List Local on and off problem

[Nicole Massey]

Yes, makes perfect sense, and yet it doesn't. Let me explain.
What your MIDI Implementation Chart tells here is that it has different 
responses for transmitted and received local messages. The 122  is good news, 
as it's dealing with the right controller. Now go to the top of your chart, and 
find out two things. Find out if the first column is the transmit column, and 
also find out what x and o mean on that chart. Because this instrument does one 
thing and not the other, otherwise the values of the two columns would be 
different.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:22 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Local on and off problem

OK, I have looked on It and there are following things about local
functions:

:Local ON/OFF x o(122)

Note, New Adobe reader viewes tables very strange. But, do You understand those 
things, or not?

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RE: QWS List Local on and off problem

[Nicole Massey]

You're going to have to look at your MIDI Implementation Chart for your 
instrument, which is often one of the last pages in the manual.  Local on/off 
is a controller command, and if it's not in the chart of supported functions 
then there is no way it'll ever be able to handle the command unless someone 
does a ROM/OS update to add the functionality. (This is extremely rare for 
someone to do that, so don't hold your breath for it)
Look up what it says.
You're looking for CC (Continuous Controller) 122, in the received side of the 
chart.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:04 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Local on and off problem

Hi!

Problem with Local on and local off continues in arranger workstations from 
Yamaha. I use USB. It looks, that this function doesn't work with those 
keyboards in QWS. I have skipped It using midi thru, but this is not very good. 
I would like to use this local function.

Please, could You look on this problem?

Thank You.

Marco Oros from Slovakia

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RE: QWS List Yamaha mm8 instrument list

[Nicole Massey]

It works great. Use it if it'll help, it rocks.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Gavin 
Grundlingh
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 12:47 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Yamaha mm8 instrument list

I wrote an app called Instruvert, which lets you take a Sonar instrument 
definition and convert it to an instrument list compatible with QWS. Is this 
what you're talking about?



On 2018/12/04 5:40 PM, Richard Wells wrote:
> Also, someone mentioned an app to help with creating instrument 
> definitions. Could we learn more about this?
>
> On 12/4/2018 5:47 AM, Phil Walters wrote:
>> Good Morning Gavin, I was wondering if you had the instrument list 
>> for the Yamaha mm8. I would also like to know how to insert it in to 
>> QWS. I would greatly appreciate your help.
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RE: QWS List Looking for an instrument list

[Nicole Massey]

Do you have the patch list? Or can you find a Sonar instrument definition
file? Those can be easily converted using an app.

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Brian Williams
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 3:23 AM
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Subject: QWS List Looking for an instrument list

Hi all, I am looking for an instrument list for a roland EXR-5S arranger
keyboard. I believe the list for the EXR-3 is the same. Many thanks in hope
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RE: QWS List Local on and off messages problem

[Nicole Massey]

Here's the important question -- does your keyboard's MIDI Implementation Chart 
say it responds to local on/off messages? If it doesn't then it's not going to 
work. Find the implementation chart near the back of the manual, possibly the 
last page.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 11:26 PM
To: QWS list 
Subject: QWS List Local on and off messages problem

Hi!

I have problem with local on and local off messages in my keyboard. It doesn't 
work, when I've pushed It on My computer on QWS. Please, can You help me with 
It?

I use PSR-S975 keyboard from Yamaha.

Thank You.

Marco Oros

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RE: QWS List Problem with Bassmidi - bad transpose

[Nicole Massey]

MIDI clock is exactly what it sounds like -- a MIDI based time stream that 
helps to keep things working together, like sequencers, drum machines, 
arpeggiators, etc. For some reason it causes problems. I'm not sure if it's a 
QWS problem or something with how some sound sources interpret the clock data, 
but it's common enough that it causes problems for multiple sound sources.
You can find detailed information on it with a net search, as just about 
everything relating to MIDI can be found somewhere on the web.

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Oros
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:34 AM
To: QWS list 
Subject: Re: QWS List Problem with Bassmidi - bad transpose

OK, problem was fixed.

But, how do You know, that problem is with Midi clock?

What is It?

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RE: QWS List Problem with Bassmidi - bad transpose

[Nicole Massey]

Turn off MIDI Clock in QWS.

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From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Marco 
Oros
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 3:32 AM
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Subject: QWS List Problem with Bassmidi - bad transpose

Hi!

My name is Marco.

I have a problem with Bassmidi. I have everything set up, as soundfont, which I 
have downloaded from Bassmidi website.

There is one big problem. Tracks are transposed to -2 semitones.

Please, how to fix this problem?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros

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