Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der
Not to derail the happy debate, but to the OP: have you considered a Huret Duopar or EcoDuopar? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree about the 70 SunTours (VGT and the Luxe versions...great stuff), however, the Shimano Crane is IMO a great derailleur as well. Mine has lasted a little longer than yours...I think it's going on 40 years. Just got back from an hour ride and didn't miss a shift. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2464/3906172556_10d65013f0_z.jpg On Apr 6, 12:56 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: You should have tried one in 1974. They were just so far ahead of everything else it was astonishing. And they were cheap. Dirt cheap. Five bucks a copy cheap. Better by a long way than Shimano's Crane and Titlist, in my personal experience on my own P15 Paramount - lasted much longer (the Titlist got wobbly in the pivots in 1 year, the VGT lasted 15 years) too. And light years better that Campagnolo's attempts at a touring derailleur at far less cost (and in the case of Campagnolo's first attempt, far less weight as well). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on them. Two of my three bikes (not my Rivendell) have mismatched tires or wheels. And I don't even want to mention the torn bar tape. All bikes should look this way! A lubed chain keeps a bike happy, the rest is vanity. Oops, did I say that out loud? On Apr 6, 5:31 pm, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com wrote: After reading Grant's article, I feel better about myself. I was feeling little guilty after visiting website after website with pictures of clean shiny bikes with Carradice bags, Nitto racks, Honjo fenders, etc. My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on them. Two of my three bikes (not my Rivendell) have mismatched tires or wheels. And I don't even want to mention the torn bar tape. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Pacenti Quasi motos or Neomoto's
Does anyone have a pair of Pacenti 2.0 Quasi Motos they are not using and would like to sell? A pair of Neomoto 2.1's will also do. Thanks have a good one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!
Beautiful bike Marty. Really looking forward to pictures of the complete build. Seems to have arrived just in time for spring. --mike On Apr 5, 4:54 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Perfection! http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast. Thanks to everyone at Rivendell for delivering a masterpiece. Build will begin soon, but I need to catch my breath. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Schwalbe Dureme
So not only am I a bet of a bagaholic but I've also got a problem with tires. I see Riv has the Duremes in stock. Who's riding them? How do you like them? I see they're stocking the 700x50 size which seems perfect for Hunqapillars. I'm sort of considering the 40s for my Hilsen. The Duremes seem like a nice all-rounder tire and like they might roll a bit more smoothly than the standard Marathons. Anyone out there have any experience with them? --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
My experience with them is that I've been checking the Riv site for the last several months waiting for them to be in stock. I'm eager to try them too! 40's or 50's for my Hillborne? I'm leaning towards the 40s. On Apr 7, 6:31 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So not only am I a bet of a bagaholic but I've also got a problem with tires. I see Riv has the Duremes in stock. Who's riding them? How do you like them? I see they're stocking the 700x50 size which seems perfect for Hunqapillars. I'm sort of considering the 40s for my Hilsen. The Duremes seem like a nice all-rounder tire and like they might roll a bit more smoothly than the standard Marathons. Anyone out there have any experience with them? --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
I'd love to try the 50's on my Hillborne...but am unsure if they'll fit. Does anyone know? The Supreme 50's measured closer to 45mm...on a Synergy rim..so I'm wondering if it's the same with the Duremes? Can anyone speak to their ride quality? Are they more supple than Marathon's? Good for road and off road? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
On Apr 7, 4:43 am, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on them. Uh-oh. Are they being ridden enough? ..::grin::.. Most of my beausage happens when I grow attached to a particular component or accessory on my bike and I take measures to repair it so it will last a bit longer: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4537083634/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4537083062/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/3395455232/ Other times it happens because I've effected a decidedly homemade/ funky solution to a particular problem (like this improvised bashguard for my rear generator light): http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/5374286904/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/5593507733/ The rest is simply from the natural wear and tear of daily riding. On the rare days when I am able to simply sit for a few minutes and just stare at my bike -- you know those days, right? -- I can see the wear marks in the paint job and note where the cable housing rubs, or where my U-lock has nicked the paint too many times. That kind of beausage is my favorite kind because it tells how much I've ridden. Since switching from my Longlow to my All-Rounder as my daily city bike, the wear-and-tear factor has grown on the latter in a way that makes me smile. Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with looks. I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy fixing flats to clean them more often than that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
That would make a very good option, but my experience from those wrenches as a boy back in the early '70s led me to think they will break at that very important time on the road when you need to fix a flat -- my old ones often did. Is the Riv-supplied one (I have one of those) sturdy enough for repeated track nut torque? This is what I use. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: I use one of those dumbell wrenches from Riv. It fits well in the tool bag and doesn't have sharp bits to catch on things. I was tempted by the VO wing nuts, but the price slowed me down enough to miss them completely. Probably just as well. On Apr 6, 10:05 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What I really want is a QR on the rear but my two hubs (each for its own reason) does not work with a QR, and I thought that wingnuts might just be easier to use than a shortened 15 mm box end wrench. The VO's do look rather nice, tho', IMO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. attachment: 15 mm box.jpg
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
On Apr 7, 11:53 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Now I do live in a dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy fixing flats to clean them more often than that. I live in a wetter climate and ride GB tires, so less time fixing flats. ;-) washing is bike inspection time, like the cracked TA crank arm or the nearly worn thru straddle cable. How to quickly wash your bike. http://www.belgiumkneewarmers.com/2008/10/the-art-of-the-bike-wash.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
jandrews For commentary on their ride quality I'd talk to Jay at Rivendell. Regarding the 40s vs the 50s, here is my thought process. Riv says the 40s measure a true 38.89. So if the 50s are really 10mm wider, that's basically 49mm wide. I took the calipers to my 56cm Hillborne this morning. At the fork blades and the seatstays there's plenty of room. It's the chainstays where it gets a little cozy. I measured 54mm. So maybe 2-2.5mm of clearance on either side. That would work awesome as a baloon tire road bike or for dry trails. But if you tried to mud it up at all, or if you are looking to squeeze fenders around those 50s, it's my opinion that it'll be too tight. If the tires were $40 apiece, I'd buy a set of each for my Hillborne, but at $72 a tire, I'm going to try the 40s first. The trails over the hill from my home in Wildcat Canyon are still pretty muddy, but I want to get an off-road route to my office established by summertime. Once things dry out more, I might go back for a pair of 50s as well. Bill On Apr 7, 7:00 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to try the 50's on my Hillborne...but am unsure if they'll fit. Does anyone know? The Supreme 50's measured closer to 45mm...on a Synergy rim..so I'm wondering if it's the same with the Duremes? Can anyone speak to their ride quality? Are they more supple than Marathon's? Good for road and off road? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
I confess to admiring some of the purty show bikes from NAHBS, regularly visit the current classics section on cyclofiend's site, and admire the looks of my Rivs quite a bit, but I just don't have it in me to keep my bikes presentation-quality. Last time I tried to get the Atlantis seriously clean, my five-year old released our golden retrievers, and in the resulting melee my rear derailer hanger got bent. I took that as a sign, and washed the dogs instead. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
I don't think that wingnuts are very practical on a modern bike. They may, however, be suitable for a bike that's being restored with some bling. I recently saw a bike, at a LBS, that was in the restoration process. It was an older Carlton made Raleigh that the owner had painted (and pin striped himself). He had a parts assemblage that included a beautiful Chater-Lea crank and Normandy hubs with wingnuts. Everything very shiny and sparkling. I thought the wingnuts looked very appropriate for this nifty bike. (The bike was being set-up as a single speed). Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der
Speaking of derailing (teehee)if the OP is still a list member who is asking for a derailer recommendation for a Bombadil, then I'd disagree with all of these vintage 5/6 speed derailers. I am totally convinced that a deerhead XT or a Duopar, or a Rally might work perfectly for those of you who are lauding their attributes. But I think that in part has to do with your using them on a 120mm rear end with a 5 speed freewheel. If the OP is building a Bombadil, he's got a 135mm rear end. If he's using a current Phil Freewheel hub, then he's going to have room for a 7-speed freewheel. Will any of those vintage derailers have the range of motion to even cover a 7-speed freewheel? Will they do it well? Even if he uses an old 5-speed freewheel or a 6-speed freewheel, will he have to use spacers to move the freewheel outboard to even work with the range limits of these derailers from the 1970's or 1980's? Is it really worth the effort? The rear derailer that I know will work beautifully is the couple year old Shimano Deore XT M760. It's not the least bit retro, so if a particular old-school look is what the OP is after, this derailer fails at that. If instead, he wants impeccably reliable shifting in friction mode, that derailer is unsurpassed in my opinion. You can find them new on closeout for $60. Buy two or three of them and never worry about a rear derailer for your Bombadil for the rest of your life. I've stocked up on the GS cage and the SGS cage of that derailer. The main attributes to me are: it shifts perfectly, it's available for less than retail in new condition, parts are still readily available for it, it still has an adjuster barrel. On Apr 7, 2:57 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: Not to derail the happy debate, but to the OP: have you considered a Huret Duopar or EcoDuopar? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree about the 70 SunTours (VGT and the Luxe versions...great stuff), however, the Shimano Crane is IMO a great derailleur as well. Mine has lasted a little longer than yours...I think it's going on 40 years. Just got back from an hour ride and didn't miss a shift. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2464/3906172556_10d65013f0_z.jpg On Apr 6, 12:56 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: You should have tried one in 1974. They were just so far ahead of everything else it was astonishing. And they were cheap. Dirt cheap. Five bucks a copy cheap. Better by a long way than Shimano's Crane and Titlist, in my personal experience on my own P15 Paramount - lasted much longer (the Titlist got wobbly in the pivots in 1 year, the VGT lasted 15 years) too. And light years better that Campagnolo's attempts at a touring derailleur at far less cost (and in the case of Campagnolo's first attempt, far less weight as well). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
I have a Surly Jethro Tool for those nuts- solid, high quality steel. It's intended to be stepped on if necessary to break loose or tighten the nut. I've never found it necessary. On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:11 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: That would make a very good option, but my experience from those wrenches as a boy back in the early '70s led me to think they will break at that very important time on the road when you need to fix a flat -- my old ones often did. Is the Riv-supplied one (I have one of those) sturdy enough for repeated track nut torque? This is what I use. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: I use one of those dumbell wrenches from Riv. It fits well in the tool bag and doesn't have sharp bits to catch on things. I was tempted by the VO wing nuts, but the price slowed me down enough to miss them completely. Probably just as well. On Apr 6, 10:05 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What I really want is a QR on the rear but my two hubs (each for its own reason) does not work with a QR, and I thought that wingnuts might just be easier to use than a shortened 15 mm box end wrench. The VO's do look rather nice, tho', IMO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. inline: 15 mm box.jpg-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
Thanks; that is a useful piece of information for the future. If only it had something more useful than a bottle opener on the other end. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: I have a Surly Jethro Tool for those nuts- solid, high quality steel. It's intended to be stepped on if necessary to break loose or tighten the nut. I've never found it necessary. On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:11 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: That would make a very good option, but my experience from those wrenches as a boy back in the early '70s led me to think they will break at that very important time on the road when you need to fix a flat -- my old ones often did. Is the Riv-supplied one (I have one of those) sturdy enough for repeated track nut torque? This is what I use. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: I use one of those dumbell wrenches from Riv. It fits well in the tool bag and doesn't have sharp bits to catch on things. I was tempted by the VO wing nuts, but the price slowed me down enough to miss them completely. Probably just as well. On Apr 6, 10:05 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What I really want is a QR on the rear but my two hubs (each for its own reason) does not work with a QR, and I thought that wingnuts might just be easier to use than a shortened 15 mm box end wrench. The VO's do look rather nice, tho', IMO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
on 4/7/11 8:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with looks. I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy fixing flats to clean them more often than that. The other thing that happens is that when I actually wrangle my sloth and clean the bike, I end up wanting to document that. So, I end up with images from the squeaky clean end o' the spectrum. A place just north of Brigadoon. Dirty bikes. Clean drivetrains. Each bicycle increases exponentially the possibility that none of them will work properly. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der
I'm totally with you on the cheap part. The cheapskate in me hates buying something that doesn't work at all. I bought an early 90's XC pro front and rear derailer, only to find that I couldn't make it take a 32 tooth cog. It was only $40 that I spent on F+R, but I'm such a cheapskate that $40 wasted drives me crazy. $60 is more than $20 that's for sure, but knowing that my stock of that derailer will work on EVERY bike in the stable is pretty useful. I use the M760 with suntour retro-friction on 3 bikes and with indexed barcons on my tandem. It frankly works better in friction than in index, but on the tandem its hard to hear the need to trim. I'm trying to train my stoker to do that for me, but it's a work in progress. Rapid rise is a new thing to me, too, and I was skeptical that it would make any difference to me, but my Hilsen with Suntour downtube shifters and rapid rise M760 GS rear derailer is without question the best shifting bike I've owned. I would not pay $120 retail for a new XT derailer, but $60 for a new three-year-old version was an investment that I was willing to make. On Apr 7, 10:39 am, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: William, So i use my Suntour XC pro on my Hillborne (135mm PW free wheel, but only 6 speed). I have an early 90's XT (the pewter painted one, not the black plastic one) on my cruiser and that's a 130mm 7 speed cassette. my bridgestone uses a road-der (not labeled, it's silver), and that's a 126mm 6-speed. all are friction shifting and i don't have any range issues, i think if you are sticking to 7 or below you're fine with these older ones, if you're at 8 or above then i'd get a late 90's vintage r der. For me it's partly i like the old stuff, but also i'm cheap, i'd rather pay 20-30 for a beat-up r-der from the early 90's then a new modern one. also all the new rapid rise, etc stuff is un-needed when all i use them for is friction shifting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
What if something is both beautiful and kludgy? Is it beauludgy? Barf On Apr 7, 10:34 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 4/7/11 8:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with looks. I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy fixing flats to clean them more often than that. The other thing that happens is that when I actually wrangle my sloth and clean the bike, I end up wanting to document that. So, I end up with images from the squeaky clean end o' the spectrum. A place just north of Brigadoon. Dirty bikes. Clean drivetrains. Each bicycle increases exponentially the possibility that none of them will work properly. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der
That said, I have SunTour Cyclone Superbe Pro rear derailleurs on both my A/R (135 mm, 12-24 7 speed f/w) and my Ritchey road bike (130 mm, 12-28 8 speed). Both function without a hiccup (friction downtube shifting in both cases). On Apr 7, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Minh wrote: So i use my Suntour XC pro on my Hillborne (135mm PW free wheel, but only 6 speed). I have an early 90's XT (the pewter painted one, not the black plastic one) on my cruiser and that's a 130mm 7 speed cassette. my bridgestone uses a road-der (not labeled, it's silver), and that's a 126mm 6-speed. all are friction shifting and i don't have any range issues, i think if you are sticking to 7 or below you're fine with these older ones, if you're at 8 or above then i'd get a late 90's vintage r der. For me it's partly i like the old stuff, but also i'm cheap, i'd rather pay 20-30 for a beat-up r-der from the early 90's then a new modern one. also all the new rapid rise, etc stuff is un-needed when all i use them for is friction shifting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
40's seem like they'd be fine for most off road riding on a Hillborne or Hilsen. I guess if you need a bigger tire than that you probably need a different bike. I do wish they were a bit cheaper. --mike- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
My Atlantis only gets cleaned a few times a year, usually after a tour as part of the re-assembly process. It looks so nice all shiny'n'spiffy, before I start hanging racks'n'packs back on, I keep telling myself gotta take a good picture for cyclofiend's Atlantis site. Been working on that for a few years now; I may get it together some day. dougP On Apr 7, 8:53 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with looks. I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy fixing flats to clean them more often than that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
What the Bleriot has been known to look like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/2134762170/ After THAT ride, it took a fair amount of fortitude to clean it up... On Apr 6, 3:31 pm, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com wrote: After reading Grant's article, I feel better about myself. I was feeling little guilty after visiting website after website with pictures of clean shiny bikes with Carradice bags, Nitto racks, Honjo fenders, etc. My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on them. Two of my three bikes (not my Rivendell) have mismatched tires or wheels. And I don't even want to mention the torn bar tape. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate... Quite the assumption Patrick. Cleaning a bike takes about as much time as fixing a flat. After being caught in a heavy rainshower I will spend about 5 minutes wiping down a fendered bike, 15 minutes for the non-fendered. I too live in a dry climate and I rarely feel the need to clean my bikes. But they still look like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/pool-legolas as on my ride today 7April. Now, when I ride offroad in La Tierra Encantada I prefer to spend my time riding instead of fixing flats, so I use both slime AND liners. But thats a different topic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
Love the copper Legolas! Next color choice I have on a bike, I must consider copper. On Apr 7, 2:13 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate... Quite the assumption Patrick. Cleaning a bike takes about as much time as fixing a flat. After being caught in a heavy rainshower I will spend about 5 minutes wiping down a fendered bike, 15 minutes for the non-fendered. I too live in a dry climate and I rarely feel the need to clean my bikes. But they still look like thishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/pool-legolas as on my ride today 7April. Now, when I ride offroad in La Tierra Encantada I prefer to spend my time riding instead of fixing flats, so I use both slime AND liners. But thats a different topic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy to deal with whatever issues I have ... That being said, I agree with Mojo that it's not really that hard to keep a bike clean. I wash my bikes with hot soapy water if they get really dirty, a process that takes 15-20 minutes. After a ride on a dry day, I'll use a little detailing spray and a soft cloth on the tubes and call it good. The key for me is to not let the dirt accumulate to the point where you're dealing with caked on grease and grime. --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 On Apr 7, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate... Quite the assumption Patrick. Cleaning a bike takes about as much time as fixing a flat. After being caught in a heavy rainshower I will spend about 5 minutes wiping down a fendered bike, 15 minutes for the non-fendered. I too live in a dry climate and I rarely feel the need to clean my bikes. But they still look like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/pool-legolas as on my ride today 7April. Now, when I ride offroad in La Tierra Encantada I prefer to spend my time riding instead of fixing flats, so I use both slime AND liners. But thats a different topic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
Quoting Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com: I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy to deal with whatever issues I have ... That being said, I agree with Mojo that it's not really that hard to keep a bike clean. I wash my bikes with hot soapy water if they get really dirty, a process that takes 15-20 minutes. And once it's clean, /that/ is the time to take pictures. Not before you clean it up. Not when it's dirty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new signature kickstand plate. I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf, piling it up high behind the seat tube. The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame, without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate. But you can't take a plate off a frame without labors that would require a re-paint. Other than convenience for those who use kickstands, what's to be gained by having the built-in plate? I just don't get it. I've often been tempted by the Hillborne, but I balk because of that darned kickstand plate, which is entirely useless to me, and would likely only be a liability given the sometimes-mucky off-roading I'd want to do on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace
2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build. The frame is in perfect shape. He prefers a quiet look to his frames so the top tube and down tube decals have been removed. From Merlin: “The Solis features a shorter top tube, longer head tube, slightly sloped top tube and hourglass carbon fiber seatstays. The goal is to put the rider in a more upright riding position for those that find that more comfortable. Even with its longer head tube, the bike is still very aesthetically pleasing because Merlin has taken care to position the top tube so there isn't an exaggerated extension of the head tube above the frame. This geometry will make it easy to achieve a more upright position while still riding the ‘sweet spot’ of the frame design.” Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace brakes Dura-Ace 7800 shifters Dura-Ace 7700 F R der Carbon compact double crank 170 arms, 34x50 Phil Wood Titanium bottom bracket 12-26 cassette Cane Creek headset Ritchey Comp stem Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm, heat treated Speed Dream wheels: American Classic hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims 24/32h Michelin Pro Race tires (new) Alpha Q EX fork WTB Pure V saddle $1,750 + shipping and insurance Link to pics on photobucket: http://tinyurl.com/6hr6d5o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 15:08 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote: The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame, without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate. Yes, sure, if you're willing to risk the chance of crushing or crimping the chain stays when you bolt the kickstand on. I've seen more than one bike damaged that way. No chance of doing that with a chainstay plate. Other than cyclocross, which I would rather be flayed and have my flesh salted than consider, what other possible bicycling activity could be hampered or harmed by the presence of a kickstand plate? I have two Kogswell P/Rs. One is set up as a porteur, and it has a double-legged kickstand, bolted to the kickstand plate. The other is my touring bike (and used to be my commuter). It has no kickstand, but it does have a kickstand plate. I've used that second P/R for every type of riding I do, with and without a touring load, including riding on gravel roads, and have never had one moment's inconvenience from the kickstand plate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace
Really? Listing a bike with carbon in the frame on this particular email list? That's a bold move. ;) On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Anne wrote: 2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build. The frame is in perfect shape. He prefers a quiet look to his frames so the top tube and down tube decals have been removed. From Merlin: “The Solis features a shorter top tube, longer head tube, slightly sloped top tube and hourglass carbon fiber seatstays. The goal is to put the rider in a more upright riding position for those that find that more comfortable. Even with its longer head tube, the bike is still very aesthetically pleasing because Merlin has taken care to position the top tube so there isn't an exaggerated extension of the head tube above the frame. This geometry will make it easy to achieve a more upright position while still riding the ‘sweet spot’ of the frame design.” Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace brakes Dura-Ace 7800 shifters Dura-Ace 7700 F R der Carbon compact double crank 170 arms, 34x50 Phil Wood Titanium bottom bracket 12-26 cassette Cane Creek headset Ritchey Comp stem Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm, heat treated Speed Dream wheels: American Classic hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims 24/32h Michelin Pro Race tires (new) Alpha Q EX fork WTB Pure V saddle $1,750 + shipping and insurance Link to pics on photobucket: http://tinyurl.com/6hr6d5o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
If you are in the market for a $1000 range cyclocross frameset with optimal mud clearance, I agree that the Soma San Marcos is not your best choice. Nor is the Hillborne. On Apr 7, 3:08 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new signature kickstand plate. I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf, piling it up high behind the seat tube. The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame, without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate. But you can't take a plate off a frame without labors that would require a re-paint. Other than convenience for those who use kickstands, what's to be gained by having the built-in plate? I just don't get it. I've often been tempted by the Hillborne, but I balk because of that darned kickstand plate, which is entirely useless to me, and would likely only be a liability given the sometimes-mucky off-roading I'd want to do on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
It is metaphysically (literally) impossible for something to be kludgy in the sense of badly designed and to be at the same time and in the same respect beautiful, since beauty implies order and harmony among the parts -- ie, that is part of what it is to be beautiful, at least in composite things. Ens et bonum et unum et pulchritudinem sunt unum in re. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:54 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: What if something is both beautiful and kludgy? Is it beauludgy? Barf On Apr 7, 10:34 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 4/7/11 8:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with looks. I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy fixing flats to clean them more often than that. The other thing that happens is that when I actually wrangle my sloth and clean the bike, I end up wanting to document that. So, I end up with images from the squeaky clean end o' the spectrum. A place just north of Brigadoon. Dirty bikes. Clean drivetrains. Each bicycle increases exponentially the possibility that none of them will work properly. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
I know, I was just kidding -- I can clean a bike in about five minutes, with soap and hose (chain and lubing take a bit longer). I too clean mine after being caught in a shower, but that is rather rare out here. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate... Quite the assumption Patrick. Cleaning a bike takes about as much time as fixing a flat. After being caught in a heavy rainshower I will spend about 5 minutes wiping down a fendered bike, 15 minutes for the non-fendered. I too live in a dry climate and I rarely feel the need to clean my bikes. But they still look like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/pool-legolas as on my ride today 7April. Now, when I ride offroad in La Tierra Encantada I prefer to spend my time riding instead of fixing flats, so I use both slime AND liners. But thats a different topic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace
Well it does have Noodle bars. On Apr 7, 6:34 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Really? Listing a bike with carbon in the frame on this particular email list? That's a bold move. ;) On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Anne wrote: 2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build. The frame is in perfect shape. He prefers a quiet look to his frames so the top tube and down tube decals have been removed. From Merlin: “The Solis features a shorter top tube, longer head tube, slightly sloped top tube and hourglass carbon fiber seatstays. The goal is to put the rider in a more upright riding position for those that find that more comfortable. Even with its longer head tube, the bike is still very aesthetically pleasing because Merlin has taken care to position the top tube so there isn't an exaggerated extension of the head tube above the frame. This geometry will make it easy to achieve a more upright position while still riding the ‘sweet spot’ of the frame design.” Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace brakes Dura-Ace 7800 shifters Dura-Ace 7700 F R der Carbon compact double crank 170 arms, 34x50 Phil Wood Titanium bottom bracket 12-26 cassette Cane Creek headset Ritchey Comp stem Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm, heat treated Speed Dream wheels: American Classic hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims 24/32h Michelin Pro Race tires (new) Alpha Q EX fork WTB Pure V saddle $1,750 + shipping and insurance Link to pics on photobucket: http://tinyurl.com/6hr6d5o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace
Yes it is outside the norm for here and indeed it is less than a Roadeo. It's a super riding bike too. So an ad here for a bike with some ti and that small bit of carbon? Yes. However the riding position on the bike is very much in line with Riv fit and philosophy. The Brooks B-17 was removed as that's on the new bike, however as noted by another, it has a wonderful 46 wide Noodle bar on it. As Grant has said, geometry trumps frame material every time. Hoping it finds a new home and gets ridden LOTS. On Apr 7, 6:34 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Really? Listing a bike with carbon in the frame on this particular email list? That's a bold move. ;) On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Anne wrote: 2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build. The frame is in perfect shape. He prefers a quiet look to his frames so the top tube and down tube decals have been removed. From Merlin: “The Solis features a shorter top tube, longer head tube, slightly sloped top tube and hourglass carbon fiber seatstays. The goal is to put the rider in a more upright riding position for those that find that more comfortable. Even with its longer head tube, the bike is still very aesthetically pleasing because Merlin has taken care to position the top tube so there isn't an exaggerated extension of the head tube above the frame. This geometry will make it easy to achieve a more upright position while still riding the ‘sweet spot’ of the frame design.” Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace brakes Dura-Ace 7800 shifters Dura-Ace 7700 F R der Carbon compact double crank 170 arms, 34x50 Phil Wood Titanium bottom bracket 12-26 cassette Cane Creek headset Ritchey Comp stem Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm, heat treated Speed Dream wheels: American Classic hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims 24/32h Michelin Pro Race tires (new) Alpha Q EX fork WTB Pure V saddle $1,750 + shipping and insurance Link to pics on photobucket: http://tinyurl.com/6hr6d5o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
I stopped paying attention at 'metaphysically' and slipped into a coma at 'pulchritudinem'. Next time talk into my good ear. On Apr 7, 3:56 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: It is metaphysically (literally) impossible for something to be kludgy in the sense of badly designed and to be at the same time and in the same respect beautiful, since beauty implies order and harmony among the parts -- ie, that is part of what it is to be beautiful, at least in composite things. Ens et bonum et unum et pulchritudinem sunt unum in re. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:54 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: What if something is both beautiful and kludgy? Is it beauludgy? Barf On Apr 7, 10:34 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 4/7/11 8:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with looks. I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy fixing flats to clean them more often than that. The other thing that happens is that when I actually wrangle my sloth and clean the bike, I end up wanting to document that. So, I end up with images from the squeaky clean end o' the spectrum. A place just north of Brigadoon. Dirty bikes. Clean drivetrains. Each bicycle increases exponentially the possibility that none of them will work properly. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace
This may be true but read what Anne has to say and if anybody is the least bit interested you will not be dissapointed if you buy a bike from her. I know. I bought my current Atlantis from her and if anything she understates the overall condition of the things she sells. On Apr 7, 5:34 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Really? Listing a bike with carbon in the frame on this particular email list? That's a bold move. ;) On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Anne wrote: 2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build. The frame is in perfect shape. He prefers a quiet look to his frames so the top tube and down tube decals have been removed. From Merlin: “The Solis features a shorter top tube, longer head tube, slightly sloped top tube and hourglass carbon fiber seatstays. The goal is to put the rider in a more upright riding position for those that find that more comfortable. Even with its longer head tube, the bike is still very aesthetically pleasing because Merlin has taken care to position the top tube so there isn't an exaggerated extension of the head tube above the frame. This geometry will make it easy to achieve a more upright position while still riding the ‘sweet spot’ of the frame design.” Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace brakes Dura-Ace 7800 shifters Dura-Ace 7700 F R der Carbon compact double crank 170 arms, 34x50 Phil Wood Titanium bottom bracket 12-26 cassette Cane Creek headset Ritchey Comp stem Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm, heat treated Speed Dream wheels: American Classic hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims 24/32h Michelin Pro Race tires (new) Alpha Q EX fork WTB Pure V saddle $1,750 + shipping and insurance Link to pics on photobucket: http://tinyurl.com/6hr6d5o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace
at that price you could part it out on ebay and you'd have the frameset for free. On Apr 7, 4:43 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: This may be true but read what Anne has to say and if anybody is the least bit interested you will not be dissapointed if you buy a bike from her. I know. I bought my current Atlantis from her and if anything she understates the overall condition of the things she sells. On Apr 7, 5:34 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Really? Listing a bike with carbon in the frame on this particular email list? That's a bold move. ;) On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Anne wrote: 2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build. The frame is in perfect shape. He prefers a quiet look to his frames so the top tube and down tube decals have been removed. From Merlin: “The Solis features a shorter top tube, longer head tube, slightly sloped top tube and hourglass carbon fiber seatstays. The goal is to put the rider in a more upright riding position for those that find that more comfortable. Even with its longer head tube, the bike is still very aesthetically pleasing because Merlin has taken care to position the top tube so there isn't an exaggerated extension of the head tube above the frame. This geometry will make it easy to achieve a more upright position while still riding the ‘sweet spot’ of the frame design.” Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace brakes Dura-Ace 7800 shifters Dura-Ace 7700 F R der Carbon compact double crank 170 arms, 34x50 Phil Wood Titanium bottom bracket 12-26 cassette Cane Creek headset Ritchey Comp stem Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm, heat treated Speed Dream wheels: American Classic hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims 24/32h Michelin Pro Race tires (new) Alpha Q EX fork WTB Pure V saddle $1,750 + shipping and insurance Link to pics on photobucket: http://tinyurl.com/6hr6d5o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der
My VGT worked on a weird 13-32 7 sp cassette, just not as well as the immediately post-curlicue Shimano long cage I replaced it with. I had a Superbe Pro rd that worked well on a 7 or 8 sp cassette. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: That said, I have SunTour Cyclone Superbe Pro rear derailleurs on both my A/R (135 mm, 12-24 7 speed f/w) and my Ritchey road bike (130 mm, 12-28 8 speed). Both function without a hiccup (friction downtube shifting in both cases). On Apr 7, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Minh wrote: So i use my Suntour XC pro on my Hillborne (135mm PW free wheel, but only 6 speed). I have an early 90's XT (the pewter painted one, not the black plastic one) on my cruiser and that's a 130mm 7 speed cassette. my bridgestone uses a road-der (not labeled, it's silver), and that's a 126mm 6-speed. all are friction shifting and i don't have any range issues, i think if you are sticking to 7 or below you're fine with these older ones, if you're at 8 or above then i'd get a late 90's vintage r der. For me it's partly i like the old stuff, but also i'm cheap, i'd rather pay 20-30 for a beat-up r-der from the early 90's then a new modern one. also all the new rapid rise, etc stuff is un-needed when all i use them for is friction shifting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
Five pictures of the Legolas, five different saddle bags! Forget about cleaning, when do you find time to organize your bag collection? :) On Apr 7, 2:13 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate... Quite the assumption Patrick. Cleaning a bike takes about as much time as fixing a flat. After being caught in a heavy rainshower I will spend about 5 minutes wiping down a fendered bike, 15 minutes for the non-fendered. I too live in a dry climate and I rarely feel the need to clean my bikes. But they still look like thishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/pool-legolas as on my ride today 7April. Now, when I ride offroad in La Tierra Encantada I prefer to spend my time riding instead of fixing flats, so I use both slime AND liners. But thats a different topic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion of the stays when it builds up over a few winters. (A similar argument was recently conducted on the Surly LHT list. Someone there indicated to me a powdercoat frame will not rust. Silly me. Need to tell my barely one year old LHT that has two winters on it the rust on the frame is fictional.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 7, 5:28 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 15:08 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote: The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame, without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate. Yes, sure, if you're willing to risk the chance of crushing or crimping the chain stays when you bolt the kickstand on. I've seen more than one bike damaged that way. No chance of doing that with a chainstay plate. Other than cyclocross, which I would rather be flayed and have my flesh salted than consider, what other possible bicycling activity could be hampered or harmed by the presence of a kickstand plate? I have two Kogswell P/Rs. One is set up as a porteur, and it has a double-legged kickstand, bolted to the kickstand plate. The other is my touring bike (and used to be my commuter). It has no kickstand, but it does have a kickstand plate. I've used that second P/R for every type of riding I do, with and without a touring load, including riding on gravel roads, and have never had one moment's inconvenience from the kickstand plate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Miles on the Bleriot... Looking... 9614. :-) On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Ah, yes. The Bleriot…how many miles on it now? From: Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas I'm here, but mostly lurk. I've got a well-used Bleriot:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/1509884296/in/set-721576023051... Lesli's Pencil and my Bleriot:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4511206713/in/set-721576238325... and from the Portland Riv Ride:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4676917808/in/set-721576240946... It is used for commuting and urban errands, as it has the rear rack. A venerable Jim Blackburn rear rack :-) Lynne F ps. I'm the serious cyclist in the family. On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other Rivendell chicas. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 18:14 -0700, EricP wrote: Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion of the stays when it builds up over a few winters. Certainly not a problem here in Northern Virginia. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace
If memory serves I got an Eddy Merckx from Anne that was spectacular. Ryan On Apr 7, 4:43 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: This may be true but read what Anne has to say and if anybody is the least bit interested you will not be dissapointed if you buy a bike from her. I know. I bought my current Atlantis from her and if anything she understates the overall condition of the things she sells. On Apr 7, 5:34 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Really? Listing a bike with carbon in the frame on this particular email list? That's a bold move. ;) On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Anne wrote: 2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build. The frame is in perfect shape. He prefers a quiet look to his frames so the top tube and down tube decals have been removed. From Merlin: “The Solis features a shorter top tube, longer head tube, slightly sloped top tube and hourglass carbon fiber seatstays. The goal is to put the rider in a more upright riding position for those that find that more comfortable. Even with its longer head tube, the bike is still very aesthetically pleasing because Merlin has taken care to position the top tube so there isn't an exaggerated extension of the head tube above the frame. This geometry will make it easy to achieve a more upright position while still riding the ‘sweet spot’ of the frame design.” Dura-Ace seatpost Dura-Ace brakes Dura-Ace 7800 shifters Dura-Ace 7700 F R der Carbon compact double crank 170 arms, 34x50 Phil Wood Titanium bottom bracket 12-26 cassette Cane Creek headset Ritchey Comp stem Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm, heat treated Speed Dream wheels: American Classic hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims 24/32h Michelin Pro Race tires (new) Alpha Q EX fork WTB Pure V saddle $1,750 + shipping and insurance Link to pics on photobucket: http://tinyurl.com/6hr6d5o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
That is the Legolas group, and only the newest two pictures, and two bags, are my bike. On Apr 7, 6:42 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Five pictures of the Legolas, five different saddle bags! Forget about cleaning, when do you find time to organize your bag collection? :) On Apr 7, 2:13 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate... Quite the assumption Patrick. Cleaning a bike takes about as much time as fixing a flat. After being caught in a heavy rainshower I will spend about 5 minutes wiping down a fendered bike, 15 minutes for the non-fendered. I too live in a dry climate and I rarely feel the need to clean my bikes. But they still look like thishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/pool-legolas as on my ride today 7April. Now, when I ride offroad in La Tierra Encantada I prefer to spend my time riding instead of fixing flats, so I use both slime AND liners. But thats a different topic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
10K anniversary coming up soon! On 4/7/11, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: Miles on the Bleriot... Looking... 9614. :-) On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Ah, yes. The Bleriot…how many miles on it now? From: Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas I'm here, but mostly lurk. I've got a well-used Bleriot:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/1509884296/in/set-721576023051... Lesli's Pencil and my Bleriot:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4511206713/in/set-721576238325... and from the Portland Riv Ride:http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/4676917808/in/set-721576240946... It is used for commuting and urban errands, as it has the rear rack. A venerable Jim Blackburn rear rack :-) Lynne F ps. I'm the serious cyclist in the family. On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On the Cinderella Classic today, my Roadeo didn't feel all alone among all those carbon fiber thingies. I saw three Rambouillets and a beautiful sage green custom (really sage green, not the Bianchi color of the Atlantis). The Cinderella is for women only-- glad to see other Rivendell chicas. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
Lucky! Did you get any information regarding pricing and release date? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
on 4/7/11 3:08 PM, Aaron Thomas at aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new signature kickstand plate. I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf, piling it up high behind the seat tube. The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame, without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate. But you can't take a plate off a frame without labors that would require a re-paint. Other than convenience for those who use kickstands, what's to be gained by having the built-in plate? I just don't get it. I've often been tempted by the Hillborne, but I balk because of that darned kickstand plate, which is entirely useless to me, and would likely only be a liability given the sometimes-mucky off-roading I'd want to do on it. Yep. That was mine. And just to be clear, that was SERIOUS mud. Slip-sliding-strictly-sticky-significantly-saucy-spirit-sucking SERIOUS mud http://vimeo.com/3387689 Yeah, it stacked up on the kickstand plate, http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3285145851/in/set-72157613897340235 but it stuck to the drivetrain pretty seriously as well. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3285966758 There were full-bore chainstay-bridgeless CX frames that bogged down that day. IIRC, someone took images of all the goobered-over brakes that day - it's somewhere on flickr. In short, I've not had that type of results before or since - and I've covered a pretty good assortment of conditions, both fendered and non.If I were getting a CX-specific frame, I wouldn't ask for it, but as far as a mixed-terrain monster, its significance could be overstated... - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com There were messengers who named their bikes, but Chevette never would have done that, and somehow because she did think about it like it was something alive. William Gibson - Virtual Light -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
I don't mind using wipes to clean up the frame now and again.. I just hate cleaning the wheels.. just tedious.. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of palin...@his.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 4:41 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.cpesom; Eric Norris Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction Quoting Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com: I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy to deal with whatever issues I have ... That being said, I agree with Mojo that it's not really that hard to keep a bike clean. I wash my bikes with hot soapy water if they get really dirty, a process that takes 15-20 minutes. And once it's clean, /that/ is the time to take pictures. Not before you clean it up. Not when it's dirty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
I'm more intrigued by this bike all the time. I agree with others that 1.125 stems are an improvement, headset adjustment wise. But I still prefer 1-inch quill stems, aesthetically, so that's a plus to me. And downtube shifter bosses - hella yes! And if you don't like em, see if your LBS has some of those old-school sweet Dura-Ace barrel adjusters or get some on the 'Bay. But I also agree that the kickstand plate is a bummer. Practical sure. My wife would say a plus. But no way would I personally put a kickstand on this bike, so aesthetically It's just hangin' there picking up muck. And I'm no fan of sloping downtubes which I understand this has a bit. Other than lugs, what do folks see as the main differences between the (maybe) San Marcos and the Sam? And finally, if I get one, am I a Rivendell Owner, or a tolerated bastard cousin? Mike On Apr 1, 12:08 pm, Richard Merkin samcoal...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody heard the lastest about the release of the bike they are working on together? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction
I honestly don't think I've ever soap and watered any of my bikes. I do wipe off the mud or dirt/dust after it dries but that's about it. I think I read a remark from Jackie Phelan (anybody read Frazz today?) or Charlie Cunnigham or someone similar who basically said..why wipe off the muck, it keeps the grease in. At least I think I read that and I'm sticking with it http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/5599879688/ Rob will wipe this off tomorrow Markwardt On Apr 7, 9:55 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mind using wipes to clean up the frame now and again.. I just hate cleaning the wheels.. just tedious.. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of palin...@his.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 4:41 PM To: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.cpesom; Eric Norris Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction Quoting Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com: I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy to deal with whatever issues I have ... That being said, I agree with Mojo that it's not really that hard to keep a bike clean. I wash my bikes with hot soapy water if they get really dirty, a process that takes 15-20 minutes. And once it's clean, /that/ is the time to take pictures. Not before you clean it up. Not when it's dirty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
