[RBW] Baggins Bags for sale - Li'l Joe + Banana Bag

2012-03-21 Thread Philip Williamson
Original leather, brass and canvas Baggins Bags, made by Duluth Pack. A 
Little Joe I purchased recently on the list, and a Banana Bag I've had 
since new. These match each other pretty well; they're similarly beausaged. 
$110 shipped, details are here: http://bit.ly/baggins-bags
Baggins is the best name for bike luggage ever, and I love the logo. 

Thanks for looking!
 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Longshot - WTB 32 Hole Campagnolo compatible rear cassette hub

2012-03-21 Thread Sean Whelan
Looking for silver, 32 Hole rear cassette hub. 9 / 10 speed compatible.

Campagnolo, White Industries, Phil wood, etc.


Please reply off-list.

Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Longshot - WTB 32 Hole Campagnolo compatible rear cassette hub

2012-03-21 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Make sure you get the cassette lockring if you find a hub. They are 
hub-specific and not cheap.


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:54:38 AM UTC-5, Sean Whelan wrote:

 Looking for silver, 32 Hole rear cassette hub. 9 / 10 speed compatible.

 Campagnolo, White Industries, Phil wood, etc.


 Please reply off-list.

 Thanks,
 Sean



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[RBW] Re: First 200k

2012-03-21 Thread Manuel Acosta
Sounds like an epic trip. I wish I could ride in snow.

On Mar 20, 5:49 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
 I bailed on the Brewpub Populaire in Oregon to do my first 200k this past
 Saturday in Bellingham, WA.  It was definitely an experience!  I rode in
 snow, freezing rain, plenty of wind, and ultimately sunshine through some
 pretty country on a relatively flat course (for this area).  No bonking or
 mechanicals made this one a win.  I rode my '09 AHH kitted out in rando
 garb with Acorn bags front and rear.  Not too heavy on the packing - mostly
 liquid food, and a spare wool top, bottom, hat, and gloves.  The only thing
 I used were the extra gloves as my original winter gloves were soaked
 within the first few hours.  I changed when the rain stopped, and my summer
 gloves kept my hands warm at that point.  I ended up doing the ride mostly
 alone as there was nobody willing to go as slow as me :)  I felt a real
 sense of accomplishment at the end, it being my longest ride ever.

 Pics and write up prove it happened :)http://wp.me/p1kJzU-31

 Flickr for more:http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyCRrL3

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Newly assembled SimpleOne's first commute to work.

2012-03-21 Thread Esteban
Is that the IRD crank?  What gear inches are you running?

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:57:30 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/6856536814/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/7002648605/in/photostream/

 Better quality pics of bike to follow later.

 David Spranger
 Charlotte, NC


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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

2012-03-21 Thread davidfrench
Patrick, what about this one:
http://images.caradisiac.com/images/3/1/9/9/33199/S0-J-aime-du-jour-Citroen-Tube-vs-Renault-Estafette-135216.jpg
Citroen Tub!
:-)
I saw one in San Francisco. I guess it belong to a bike shop in Russian 
Hill... This is the perfect vehicle (and pardon me even if I'm french I'm 
not into tour de France, but I'm sure this Citroen was used extensively 
during the race, back in the days)
:-)

Larry, nice to meet (virtually) another eurovan owner!

Rex, try a Eurovan, or put that hitch on the Subaru. My Hollywood Rack can 
take any kind of bikes, fenders or not.
http://www.hollywoodracks.com/bike-racks/hitch-racks/sportrider-hitch-rack-4.htm






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[RBW] Re: Pine Tar Testimony

2012-03-21 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I was expecting you to say Gee, I'll miss her...  Great stuff, that
soap...

On Mar 17, 2:20 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 I used pine tar soap for several years, until my new wife told me I had to 
 choose: her or the soap. That was an easy choice (the soap lost).

 --Eric N

 On Mar 17, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:







  I love pine tar soap. I tried it based on Grant's recommendation first as a 
  face soap, soon the entire body. I have told this story here before: when I 
  went to a month long radar course in Norman OK and met a fellow cute 
  meteorologist who road a metebecance with a leather saddle, who tele skied, 
  AND who used pine tar soap, I married her! We both just shared a shower 
  together and one bar of pine tar. My conclusion: pine tar soap leads to 
  marital bliss!

  On Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:53:05 AM UTC-6, Frank wrote:
  For more than a decade, every day, I’ve used Pine Tar Soap as shampoo, body 
  cleanser, and shaving cream.  For some reason just this morning, this 
  reality struck me as somewhat remarkable, and so here I will.

  I don’t buy or use any other products for the general touch-up of my 
  physical exterior. I have all of my hair at fifty (in fact, perhaps more 
  than I’d like on top), little to no discernible gray, no dandruff, no skin 
  troubles, no funny smells, and most importantly, no hassle. While I can’t 
  attribute this, from my perspective, generally desirable condition to the 
  soap directly, I can look at my only (younger) brother and rationally 
  conclude that I am either comparatively fortunate, or that the soap helps.

  My routine is pretty simple. Water on, close eyes, lather hair, face, and 
  other bits all at once, find razor, shave, and rinse.  When Bar Now is 
  nearly reduced to a sliver, it gets set atop Bar Next, where it anneals, 
  continuing the cycle. I cannot think of a single other thing in my life 
  from which I’ve derived such sustainable utility, ease of use, and value.

  For what it’s worth, I work in technology, spend a great deal of time “down 
  in the valley” and (as we say in Seattle) “up on the mountain” in the 
  company of corporate directors, BOD members, venture capitalists, partner 
  senior executives, and every day I work in lockstep with DevOps staff.  I 
  like to think about stuff, but I’m by no means bohemian. I guess the point 
  there is that my program seems to dovetail just fine with the rest of 
  society, and no one’s the wiser.

  Perhaps the best news is that my kids, two boys eight and eleven, are on 
  the same program, and to them it’s a good thing. I feel as if with the help 
  of Rivendell, I’ve AXE-proofed my home, and that’s worth a lot.

  Lather, rinse, repeat.

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[RBW] Re: Newly assembled SimpleOne's first commute to work.

2012-03-21 Thread David Spranger
It is an FSA: Gimondi 42t crank with 19t on a SRAM Automatix hub. Sheldon 
Brown's gear calculator says I am running 60 gear inches in low and 82 in 
high gear.

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:35:07 AM UTC-4, Esteban wrote:

 Is that the IRD crank?  What gear inches are you running?

 On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:57:30 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/6856536814/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/7002648605/in/photostream/

 Better quality pics of bike to follow later.

 David Spranger
 Charlotte, NC



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[RBW] Re: Rode My First Rando Event Today

2012-03-21 Thread RJM
Way to go, sounds like you had a great time. 
 
I love to go on longer distance rides but never had a chance to participate 
in an organized ride like that.  It looks like quite a fun time.
On Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:38:28 PM UTC-5, Smitty wrote:

 Thanks for all the tips everyone gave in my previous post asking for 
 Randonneuring advice. I put much of it to use today and had a successful 
 ride. The forecast called for 100% chance of rain showers. We got a few 
 minor sprinkles, lots of clouds and a decent amount of sunshine. I came 
 prepared for 100k of riding in a downpour. Instead I should have wore 
 sunscreen. No bonk or nutrition/cramp issues... I believe largely thanks to 
 tips from the list. My goal was to finish in 6 hours (a little over 10mph 
 average) and I got my card signed at 5:55. Perhaps I could have pushed 
 myself and gotten a slightly better time but that would have eaten into my 
 breaks, conversations, and scenery gazing. I don't really feel the need to 
 jump right into the longer brevets but it's likely I'll be back for more 
 100k rides.   

 My control card proved it happened, but it's on it's way to France. These 
 pics will have to 
 suffice.https://picasaweb.google.com/113148323994353762329/OregonRandonneursSnoozevillePopularie100k?authuser=0feat=directlink

 cheers, Smitty


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[RBW] Re: Baggins Bags for sale - Li'l Joe + Banana Bag

2012-03-21 Thread Ryan Ray
While showing off my Sackville at work and lamenting the fact that the bags 
were no longer named Baggins he responded Sackvilles are from Middle Earth 
too, they were the rivals of the Baggins.

So both names are pretty awesome!

- Ryan






On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:06:49 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 Original leather, brass and canvas Baggins Bags, made by Duluth Pack. A 
 Little Joe I purchased recently on the list, and a Banana Bag I've had 
 since new. These match each other pretty well; they're similarly beausaged. 
 $110 shipped, details are here: http://bit.ly/baggins-bags
 Baggins is the best name for bike luggage ever, and I love the logo. 

 Thanks for looking!
  Philip

 Philip Williamson
 www.biketinker.com


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[RBW] Off Topic: Do you have today's Contra Costa Times in your hand?

2012-03-21 Thread William
I'm looking for some specific content in today's print version of the 
Contra Costa Times.  Please let me know off list if you have today's 
CoCoTimes on hand.  

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[RBW] Re: Belated introduction

2012-03-21 Thread RJM
Great looking Sam. I really like the green color they are painting those 
now. Actually, all the colors of the Sam have been pretty nice looking. I 
have a 48 Sam in orange and have to say it is the most comfortable bike I 
have ever owned.  I rode 60 miles this past Sunday and never once felt 
pain, either back, butt, or neck, the whole time.  Just a great bike.  Have 
fun on it.
 

On Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:12:32 AM UTC-5, Steven Silbert wrote:

 Hello Everyone! 
 In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam 
 Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and 
 car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my 
 destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. 
 I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out 
 to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so 
 enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the 
 Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/

 Steven, Monterey CA




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[RBW] New HC poster

2012-03-21 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Our posters have been popular among the most tasteful members of this 
group, though the RBW connection is not direct. Anyway, here is the version 
for 2012. The quantity are limited to 100-ish.
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/03/hc-poster-for-2012.html

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Re: [RBW] New HC poster

2012-03-21 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
 Our posters have been popular among the most tasteful members of this group,
 though the RBW connection is not direct. Anyway, here is the version for
 2012. The quantity are limited to 100-ish.
 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/03/hc-poster-for-2012.html


It was just limited to the tasteful members of this group. I have both
of the others, too. :)

-sv

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Re: [RBW] New HC poster

2012-03-21 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 thill@gmail.com wrote:
 Our posters have been popular among the most tasteful members of this group,
 though the RBW connection is not direct. Anyway, here is the version for
 2012. The quantity are limited to 100-ish.
 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/03/hc-poster-for-2012.html


 It was just limited to the tasteful members of this group. I have both
 of the others, too. :)


That was wrong

it's amazing what happens when you leave a 'not' out of a sentence.

That should e:

It was NOT just limited to the tasteful members of this group.

-sv

 -sv

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[RBW] Re: Baggins Bags for sale - Li'l Joe + Banana Bag SOLD

2012-03-21 Thread Philip Williamson
Also a great name, true, but Lobelia Sackville was odious.The Sackville 
bags are more high-toned than the Bagginses, so that's a satisfying 
parallel. 

And, my bags are now SOLD (thanks!) http://bit.ly/baggins-bags

 Philip

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:32:05 AM UTC-7, HappyCamper wrote:

 While showing off my Sackville at work and lamenting the fact that the 
 bags were no longer named Baggins he responded Sackvilles are from Middle 
 Earth too, they were the rivals of the Baggins.

 So both names are pretty awesome!

 - Ryan






 On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:06:49 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 Original leather, brass and canvas Baggins Bags, made by Duluth Pack. A 
 Little Joe I purchased recently on the list, and a Banana Bag I've had 
 since new. These match each other pretty well; they're similarly beausaged. 
 $110 shipped, details are here: http://bit.ly/baggins-bags
 Baggins is the best name for bike luggage ever, and I love the logo. 

 Thanks for looking!
  Philip

 Philip Williamson
 www.biketinker.com



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[RBW] Re: Newly assembled SimpleOne's first commute to work.

2012-03-21 Thread Philip Williamson
Oh, man what a great bike. I salute your gear setup, too. Could I pick your 
brain in a couple of weeks to do a mini-review of your setup on my blog 
(biketinker.com)? That bike is right up my 2 speed Rivendell alley.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:24:35 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

 It is an FSA: Gimondi 42t crank with 19t on a SRAM Automatix hub. Sheldon 
 Brown's gear calculator says I am running 60 gear inches in low and 82 in 
 high gear.

 On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:35:07 AM UTC-4, Esteban wrote:

 Is that the IRD crank?  What gear inches are you running?

 On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:57:30 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/6856536814/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/7002648605/in/photostream/

 Better quality pics of bike to follow later.

 David Spranger
 Charlotte, NC



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[RBW] Re: Newly assembled SimpleOne's first commute to work.

2012-03-21 Thread Ryan Ray
My Honjos need help. Yours look great.



On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:57:30 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/6856536814/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/7002648605/in/photostream/

 Better quality pics of bike to follow later.

 David Spranger
 Charlotte, NC


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Re: [RBW] New HC poster

2012-03-21 Thread William
Ha!

People with good taste buy this.  Have a look and see what you think!

I used to do that sometimes when I worked at the bike shop.  I'd say 
something like:  skilled riders tend to really like the Bridgestone.  Have 
a test ride and see what you think about it  

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:23:24 AM UTC-7, Seth Vidal wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
  thill@gmail.com wrote:
  Our posters have been popular among the most tasteful members of this 
 group,
  though the RBW connection is not direct. Anyway, here is the version for
  2012. The quantity are limited to 100-ish.
  http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/03/hc-poster-for-2012.html
 
 
  It was just limited to the tasteful members of this group. I have both
  of the others, too. :)
 

 That was wrong

 it's amazing what happens when you leave a 'not' out of a sentence.

 That should e:

 It was NOT just limited to the tasteful members of this group.

 -sv

  -sv



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[RBW] Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Liesl
Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.

Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
moved over and didn't think much about it.

The trees are leafing out here a full month early.

Liesl

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Re: [RBW] Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Morgano
Hmm, I often encount situations like this riding in NYC. The difference is
that though I know what the laws are and the drivers dont I am still a dude
on a 30lb bike and they are driving a 2 ton missle that can crush me like a
bug.  I will usually err on the side of courteousness even though I will
grumble under my breath about how I had the right of way or when some idiot
honks at me for just having the audacity to rid on thier roads but again,
they can kill us and we cant do much to them. I find this is especially
true in NYC where the Village Voice has finally torn the lid off of a
systematic plan by the NYPD to blame all bike related injuries and
fatalities on bike riders and hardly ever if at all on the drivers of cars
since the NYPD is not in favor of increased ridership advocated by the
transportation commissioner Sadik-Khan.  So I would say, there is a time to
stand your ground and a time to realize you are at the position of
vulnerability and to just complain when you get home or on this list even.
I know there are people who will see this as being too capitulating but as
a grown man with kids at home I have to prioritize safety over pride.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
 on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
 for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
 you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
 just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
 bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
 right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
 came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
 she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
 change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
 light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
 and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
 refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
 getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
 sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
 heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
 sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.

 Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
 your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
 moved over and didn't think much about it.

 The trees are leafing out here a full month early.

 Liesl

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Re: [RBW] Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This is a pet peeve and concern of mine. First, the woman is an idiot,
as usual thinking that bikes don't belong, really, on the roadways.
Second, if you pull to the far right, you risk a fool making a right
hook just as you are moving off -- the one time I have been hit by a
car it was in such a situation. When people honk at me in such
circumstances, I point to the red light.

BUT!!! There is a way!! I, myself, pull out to the left side of the
lane at a red or sigh. This has two benefits: first, I prevent fools
from making tight right hooks around me. Second, it allows cars to
make rights without me getting in the way. In fact, I usually motion
right-turning cars to go ahead. The downside, and this seems rare,
is for some fool to try to pass you going straight while he is on your
left.

The other solution is to say, Pog Ma thoin pron poog MAhoon and
meaning Kiss my ass. http://www.irish-sayings.com/cats/irishwords/

I myself fancy the Ulster dialect.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
 on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
 for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
 you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
 just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
 bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
 right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
 came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
 she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
 change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
 light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
 and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
 refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
 getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
 sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
 heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
 sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.

 Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
 your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
 moved over and didn't think much about it.

 The trees are leafing out here a full month early.

 Liesl

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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Jay
The driver was asking nicely?
I'd move over if I reasonably could.
If he was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear him. My ears are funny
that way.

Jay

On Mar 21, 8:23 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hmm, I often encount situations like this riding in NYC. The difference is
 that though I know what the laws are and the drivers dont I am still a dude
 on a 30lb bike and they are driving a 2 ton missle that can crush me like a
 bug.  I will usually err on the side of courteousness even though I will
 grumble under my breath about how I had the right of way or when some idiot
 honks at me for just having the audacity to rid on thier roads but again,
 they can kill us and we cant do much to them. I find this is especially
 true in NYC where the Village Voice has finally torn the lid off of a
 systematic plan by the NYPD to blame all bike related injuries and
 fatalities on bike riders and hardly ever if at all on the drivers of cars
 since the NYPD is not in favor of increased ridership advocated by the
 transportation commissioner Sadik-Khan.  So I would say, there is a time to
 stand your ground and a time to realize you are at the position of
 vulnerability and to just complain when you get home or on this list even.
 I know there are people who will see this as being too capitulating but as
 a grown man with kids at home I have to prioritize safety over pride.







 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
  Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
  on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
  for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
  you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
  just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
  bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
  right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
  came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
  she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
  change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
  light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
  and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
  refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
  getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
  sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
  heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
  sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.

  Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
  your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
  moved over and didn't think much about it.

  The trees are leafing out here a full month early.

  Liesl

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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
The driver was asking nicely?
I'd move over if I reasonably could.
If she was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear her. My ears are funny
that way.

Jay

On Mar 21, 8:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is a pet peeve and concern of mine. First, the woman is an idiot,
 as usual thinking that bikes don't belong, really, on the roadways.
 Second, if you pull to the far right, you risk a fool making a right
 hook just as you are moving off -- the one time I have been hit by a
 car it was in such a situation. When people honk at me in such
 circumstances, I point to the red light.

 BUT!!! There is a way!! I, myself, pull out to the left side of the
 lane at a red or sigh. This has two benefits: first, I prevent fools
 from making tight right hooks around me. Second, it allows cars to
 make rights without me getting in the way. In fact, I usually motion
 right-turning cars to go ahead. The downside, and this seems rare,
 is for some fool to try to pass you going straight while he is on your
 left.

 The other solution is to say, Pog Ma thoin pron poog MAhoon and
 meaning Kiss my ass.http://www.irish-sayings.com/cats/irishwords/

 I myself fancy the Ulster dialect.









 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
  Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
  on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
  for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
  you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
  just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
  bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
  right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
  came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
  she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
  change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
  light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
  and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
  refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
  getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
  sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
  heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
  sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.

  Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
  your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
  moved over and didn't think much about it.

  The trees are leafing out here a full month early.

  Liesl

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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
To be clear, I would move forward and to the left.
Moving right would be dangerous.

Jay
On Mar 21, 8:31 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:
 The driver was asking nicely?
 I'd move over if I reasonably could.
 If she was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear her. My ears are funny
 that way.

 Jay

 On Mar 21, 8:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:







  This is a pet peeve and concern of mine. First, the woman is an idiot,
  as usual thinking that bikes don't belong, really, on the roadways.
  Second, if you pull to the far right, you risk a fool making a right
  hook just as you are moving off -- the one time I have been hit by a
  car it was in such a situation. When people honk at me in such
  circumstances, I point to the red light.

  BUT!!! There is a way!! I, myself, pull out to the left side of the
  lane at a red or sigh. This has two benefits: first, I prevent fools
  from making tight right hooks around me. Second, it allows cars to
  make rights without me getting in the way. In fact, I usually motion
  right-turning cars to go ahead. The downside, and this seems rare,
  is for some fool to try to pass you going straight while he is on your
  left.

  The other solution is to say, Pog Ma thoin pron poog MAhoon and
  meaning Kiss my ass.http://www.irish-sayings.com/cats/irishwords/

  I myself fancy the Ulster dialect.

  On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
   Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
   on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
   for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
   you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
   just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
   bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
   right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
   came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
   she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
   change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
   light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
   and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
   refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
   getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
   sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
   heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
   sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.

   Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
   your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
   moved over and didn't think much about it.

   The trees are leafing out here a full month early.

   Liesl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Lyle Bogart
Like Patrick, I will always pull as far to the left as I safely can and, if
I hear a vehicle come up from behind, will make eye contact and motion
they're free to make a right. When the light changes, I get through as
quickly as possible and move rightward.

Cheers!

lyle

On 21 March 2012 14:29, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote:

 The driver was asking nicely?
 I'd move over if I reasonably could.
 If he was obnoxious about it I wouldn't hear him. My ears are funny
 that way.

 Jay

 On Mar 21, 8:23 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hmm, I often encount situations like this riding in NYC. The difference
 is
  that though I know what the laws are and the drivers dont I am still a
 dude
  on a 30lb bike and they are driving a 2 ton missle that can crush me
 like a
  bug.  I will usually err on the side of courteousness even though I
 will
  grumble under my breath about how I had the right of way or when some
 idiot
  honks at me for just having the audacity to rid on thier roads but again,
  they can kill us and we cant do much to them. I find this is especially
  true in NYC where the Village Voice has finally torn the lid off of a
  systematic plan by the NYPD to blame all bike related injuries and
  fatalities on bike riders and hardly ever if at all on the drivers of
 cars
  since the NYPD is not in favor of increased ridership advocated by the
  transportation commissioner Sadik-Khan.  So I would say, there is a time
 to
  stand your ground and a time to realize you are at the position of
  vulnerability and to just complain when you get home or on this list
 even.
  I know there are people who will see this as being too capitulating but
 as
  a grown man with kids at home I have to prioritize safety over pride.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
   Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
   on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
   for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
   you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
   just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
   bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
   right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
   came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
   she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
   change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
   light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
   and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
   refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
   getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
   sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
   heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
   sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.
 
   Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
   your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
   moved over and didn't think much about it.
 
   The trees are leafing out here a full month early.
 
   Liesl
 
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[RBW] Re: New HC poster

2012-03-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
That is quite lovely, Jim.

Jay

On Mar 21, 7:36 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ha!

 People with good taste buy this.  Have a look and see what you think!

 I used to do that sometimes when I worked at the bike shop.  I'd say
 something like:  skilled riders tend to really like the Bridgestone.  Have
 a test ride and see what you think about it







 On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:23:24 AM UTC-7, Seth Vidal wrote:

  On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
   thill@gmail.com wrote:
   Our posters have been popular among the most tasteful members of this
  group,
   though the RBW connection is not direct. Anyway, here is the version for
   2012. The quantity are limited to 100-ish.
  http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/03/hc-poster-for-2012.html

   It was just limited to the tasteful members of this group. I have both
   of the others, too. :)

  That was wrong

  it's amazing what happens when you leave a 'not' out of a sentence.

  That should e:

  It was NOT just limited to the tasteful members of this group.

  -sv

   -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

2012-03-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I have to bow before superiority. That does take the cake.

How's about this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/Late70sOrEarly80sKenRogersBRT?authkey=Gv1sRgCMa-k8S2v-XZbg#5702101096963401378

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Patrick, what about this one:
 http://images.caradisiac.com/images/3/1/9/9/33199/S0-J-aime-du-jour-Citroen-Tube-vs-Renault-Estafette-135216.jpg
 Citroen Tub!
 :-)
 I saw one in San Francisco. I guess it belong to a bike shop in Russian
 Hill... This is the perfect vehicle (and pardon me even if I'm french I'm
 not into tour de France, but I'm sure this Citroen was used extensively
 during the race, back in the days)
 :-)

 Larry, nice to meet (virtually) another eurovan owner!

 Rex, try a Eurovan, or put that hitch on the Subaru. My Hollywood Rack can
 take any kind of bikes, fenders or not.
 http://www.hollywoodracks.com/bike-racks/hitch-racks/sportrider-hitch-rack-4.htm




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[RBW] Re: First 200k

2012-03-21 Thread Smitty
Brian-- You make 200k look and sound so do-able. Excellent and inspiring 
report.

Manny-- Come on up to the NW... we'll take you out to ride in our wet + 
quickly melting snow. 

--Smitty


On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:49:59 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:

 I bailed on the Brewpub Populaire in Oregon to do my first 200k this past 
 Saturday in Bellingham, WA.  It was definitely an experience!  I rode in 
 snow, freezing rain, plenty of wind, and ultimately sunshine through some 
 pretty country on a relatively flat course (for this area).  No bonking or 
 mechanicals made this one a win.  I rode my '09 AHH kitted out in rando 
 garb with Acorn bags front and rear.  Not too heavy on the packing - mostly 
 liquid food, and a spare wool top, bottom, hat, and gloves.  The only thing 
 I used were the extra gloves as my original winter gloves were soaked 
 within the first few hours.  I changed when the rain stopped, and my summer 
 gloves kept my hands warm at that point.  I ended up doing the ride mostly 
 alone as there was nobody willing to go as slow as me :)  I felt a real 
 sense of accomplishment at the end, it being my longest ride ever. 

 Pics and write up prove it happened :)
 http://wp.me/p1kJzU-31

 Flickr for more: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyCRrL3

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA


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Re: [RBW] Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Ryan Ray
I pull over to the left at red lights too.

- Ryan




On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:26:13 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 This is a pet peeve and concern of mine. First, the woman is an idiot,
 as usual thinking that bikes don't belong, really, on the roadways.
 Second, if you pull to the far right, you risk a fool making a right
 hook just as you are moving off -- the one time I have been hit by a
 car it was in such a situation. When people honk at me in such
 circumstances, I point to the red light.

 BUT!!! There is a way!! I, myself, pull out to the left side of the
 lane at a red or sigh. This has two benefits: first, I prevent fools
 from making tight right hooks around me. Second, it allows cars to
 make rights without me getting in the way. In fact, I usually motion
 right-turning cars to go ahead. The downside, and this seems rare,
 is for some fool to try to pass you going straight while he is on your
 left.

 The other solution is to say, Pog Ma thoin pron poog MAhoon and
 meaning Kiss my ass. http://www.irish-sayings.com/cats/irishwords/

 I myself fancy the Ulster dialect.

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
  Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
  on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
  for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
  you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
  just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
  bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
  right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
  came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
  she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
  change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
  light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
  and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
  refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
  getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
  sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
  heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
  sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.
 
  Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
  your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
  moved over and didn't think much about it.
 
  The trees are leafing out here a full month early.
 
  Liesl
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Morgano
Ok, just got off the phone with Mark over at Riv HQ who I had a awesome
talk with about bike fitting that was pretty illuminating. Long story short
though they will have the new Bleu color in stock in all sizes even though
as he said they have trouble moving the smaller ones but dealers and
whatnot requested it so get they got in done through the whole range of
sizes, except for the 64. That new bleu and the cream accents are a great
addition to a killer bike, almost thinking the unthinkable to sell my
beautiful Homer setup to fund a new Hillborne. Hmm

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Go for it, I'm lousy on the phone.

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:16:51 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Yeah I only ask because all the ones I have seen pictured and grants blug
 post mentions the the new color in relation to the two tt model.   I guess
 one of us should just ring them up tomorrow,  sounds like a good excuse to
 not work for a few minutes,  Haha.
 On Mar 20, 2012 11:09 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I doubt it..no small Rivendells come with two tts. I presume the 48/52
 remains uno-tubed.

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:59:13 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Now I am confused,  they don't all have two tts though right?
 On Mar 20, 2012 10:57 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm..I think I was wrong. The Pre-Sale page lets you order four sizes:
 48/52/56/60. This could present a problem for my credit card if I can 
 order
 that gorgeous color in my size..

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:16:44 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 That is what I assume,  since the indicated only the two tt ones have
 the new color.  Most likely because those are Taiwan frames so they can 
 eat
 some of the cost of the fancy paint job.
 On Mar 20, 2012 10:14 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the
 pre-sale bleu's are 56 and 60 only?

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:

 But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they
 would have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube 
 as a
 way to keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the lower cost
 Rivendells creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.

 -Original Message-
 From: William
 Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM
 To: 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

 It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the
 color.

 On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for
 pre-
 sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time
 to
 pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now.
 http://www.rivbike.com/**product**-p/f-hillborne-blue.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm

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Re: [RBW] Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Brian Hanson
Same - but it depends on the intersection.  I tend to try to leave space to
my right for a turning vehicle (or bike) if I'm heading straight.

Brian
Seattle

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I pull over to the left at red lights too.

 - Ryan




 On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:26:13 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 This is a pet peeve and concern of mine. First, the woman is an idiot,
 as usual thinking that bikes don't belong, really, on the roadways.
 Second, if you pull to the far right, you risk a fool making a right
 hook just as you are moving off -- the one time I have been hit by a
 car it was in such a situation. When people honk at me in such
 circumstances, I point to the red light.

 BUT!!! There is a way!! I, myself, pull out to the left side of the
 lane at a red or sigh. This has two benefits: first, I prevent fools
 from making tight right hooks around me. Second, it allows cars to
 make rights without me getting in the way. In fact, I usually motion
 right-turning cars to go ahead. The downside, and this seems rare,
 is for some fool to try to pass you going straight while he is on your
 left.

 The other solution is to say, Pog Ma thoin pron poog MAhoon and
 meaning Kiss my ass. 
 http://www.irish-sayings.com/**cats/irishwords/http://www.irish-sayings.com/cats/irishwords/

 I myself fancy the Ulster dialect.

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
  Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
  on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
  for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
  you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
  just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
  bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
  right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
  came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
  she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
  change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
  light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
  and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
  refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
  getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
  sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
  heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
  sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.
 
  Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
  your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
  moved over and didn't think much about it.
 
  The trees are leafing out here a full month early.
 
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[RBW] Re: Pricing Advice on Romulus

2012-03-21 Thread rex
i sold my 59 romulus as a frame/fork/wheelset for roughly $850 within a day 
or two of posting it.


On Monday, March 19, 2012 1:23:05 PM UTC-4, Kwabbott wrote:

 I have an early Romulus (RM029) that I don't ride much and I am 
 considering selling it since I also own a Rambouillet. I am trying to 
 get an idea of the value before I list it, as O may keep it for my son 
 (he's only 11, but he's growing like a weed).

 I am the second owner, so I'm not sure what the year is, but it is the 
 earlier model with sidepull brakes. The spec is largely stock with Nitto 
 drops, Sugino cranks, Shimano 105 derailleurs, and  wheels. The 
 tires are now Pasela TourGuard 700x35s (front brand new) and has brand 
 new bar tape. I would guess that it only has a couple thousand miles on 
 it at most.

 I would rate the overall condition as good due to several paint 
 scratches (mostly out of the way) and one small dent in the top tube 
 (still not sure when that occured).  The downtube decals are starting to 
 peel but I have new replacements that I just received. It will not come 
 with a saddle or pedals.

 If anyone is willing to give me their 2 cents on a value range I would 
 appreciate it.

 thanks

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[RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-21 Thread jeffrey kane
and now for some further clarification ... or confusion (not sure which):

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/650b-tubulars/

On Monday, March 19, 2012 12:11:31 PM UTC-4, jeffrey kane wrote:


 http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/nino-schurter-wins-world-cup-1-on-650b-wheels


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[RBW] WTB: 52cm green Sam Hillborne

2012-03-21 Thread BT
Hi all,

I'm looking for a 52cm green Sam Hillborne. If you have one you'd like to 
sell (as anything from a frame and fork to a complete bike), please contact 
me offlist at b...@hcoop.net.

Thanks,
BT

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[RBW] Re: First 200k

2012-03-21 Thread Alex Moll
Great report, Brian - I enjoyed reading that. 200K would be plenty for
me, and you're NOT a slow rider. I just think most of those guys are
FAST. Riding a 200K this time of year, in this weather, is really for
the hard core riders anyway. I bet there are a greater number of
medium (us), and slow riders in the summer.

Have you done STP? Boy, that's a complete cross-section of riders.
I've done it twice, and think I've seen just about everything. No
desire to do it again, unless my sons really want to do it when they
are teenagers.

Keep telling us about your rando adventures. I'm interested, but not
sure I'll commit just yet. I'm definitely game for a populaire
(especially a pub crawl), and could probably swing a 200K in the
summer. Anything longer will have to wait until the kids are grown.

Cheers,
Alex

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Re: [RBW] Newly assembled SimpleOne's first commute to work.

2012-03-21 Thread Addison Wilhite
Very nice!


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[RBW] Re: Pricing Advice on Romulus

2012-03-21 Thread Kwabbott
The size is a 61cm, so i hope that will make it more saleable.

On Mar 20, 11:33 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 What size is it?







 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:28:03 PM UTC-7, LF wrote:

  On Monday, March 19, 2012 1:23:05 PM UTC-4, Kwabbott wrote:

  I have an early Romulus (RM029) ... I am trying to
  get an idea of the value before I list it, snip

  Kevin,
  search completed eBay sales to estimate comps. If you want to sell it
  quickly, ask 20% less. If you want top $$$,, put it in as good condition as
  you can, and try to sell it here or on CL.  Happy 1st day o'spring. gdday 2
  sella bike.
  Larry

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[RBW] Re: First 200k

2012-03-21 Thread Dennis
Thanks for the report  pics, Brian. It sounds like the weather was a
challenge for your first 200km - congrats  well done.
DennisH

On Mar 20, 5:49 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
 I bailed on the Brewpub Populaire in Oregon to do my first 200k this past
 Saturday in Bellingham, WA.  It was definitely an experience!  I rode in
 snow, freezing rain, plenty of wind, and ultimately sunshine through some
 pretty country on a relatively flat course (for this area).  No bonking or
 mechanicals made this one a win.  I rode my '09 AHH kitted out in rando
 garb with Acorn bags front and rear.  Not too heavy on the packing - mostly
 liquid food, and a spare wool top, bottom, hat, and gloves.  The only thing
 I used were the extra gloves as my original winter gloves were soaked
 within the first few hours.  I changed when the rain stopped, and my summer
 gloves kept my hands warm at that point.  I ended up doing the ride mostly
 alone as there was nobody willing to go as slow as me :)  I felt a real
 sense of accomplishment at the end, it being my longest ride ever.

 Pics and write up prove it happened :)http://wp.me/p1kJzU-31

 Flickr for more:http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyCRrL3

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[RBW] Re: beautiful rivendell fs

2012-03-21 Thread Napes
Thanks - she's blushing.

On Mar 19, 7:33 am, Dave dfal...@charter.net wrote:
 This is one beautiful bike!  And, if I were to build a custom, it is
 almost exactly how I would have kitted it.  It's even my size, and looks
 a lot like my Ram did when I first got it.  I hope someone grabs this
 and makes good use of it.

 On 3/18/2012 11:19 AM, Jack Stone wrote:







  rbw_o_bunch,

  I am interested in selling a one-of-a-kind Rivendell bicycle. Note: I'm not 
  a real bicycle person, but I have tried to do my homework here. If I have a 
  part wrong etc., please feel free to correct me. I am trying to describe 
  this bike and its history as clearly and honestly as possible for you.

  Mark Abele at Rivendell Bicycle Works (RBW) suggested this googlegroup as a 
  good place to start, so you get the first shot.

  According Abele (RBW), the frameset was a custom-built in 2003 by Curt 
  Goodrich in the all-rounder style (which is similar to an Atlantis). It 
  features a custom paint job: a beautiful forest-green and cream combination.

  Frame size: 22.5 inches [maybe a shade less] or 57.15 centimeters (center 
  of crank to where the seat post inserts)

  Standing height: 32.5 inches or 82.55 centimeters (floor to top of top tube 
  near the center laterally)

  The parts are on the expensive side (for 2005):

  Crankset:  Sugino XD2 with Phil Wood bottom brackets
  Brakes: Paul Touring and Neo-Retro cantilevers
  Break Leavers: Cane Creek SCR-5C Leavers
  Stem and Bars:  Nitto lugged stem with Noodle bar
  Shifters: Shimano Bar End Shifters
  Post and Saddle:  Brooks B-17 Champion Special with Nitto Frog post
  Bag: Baggins Banana Bag (full of tools, tubes, and such)
  Wheels:  Phil Wood Hubs with Velocity Synergy rims and Panaracer Paseala 
  tires
  Cages:  Nitto 80th Anniversary cages
  Fenders:  SKS P45's
  Bicycle Stands: Rothko Rolling Bicycle Stands (pair)
  On-board Tire Pump: Zefal hpx4
  Bell: Brass bell

  Abele says: Overall a super-nice bike. Purchased new, that would sell for 
  around $5K is my guess.

  History: As I mentioned (above), the frameset was a custom-built in 2003. 
  It was returned by the original customer because the spacing between the 
  canti brake bosses were not to his spec. RBW resold the frameset, outfitted 
  with all the parts (above), to a neighbor of mine in 2005. He, it seems, 
  loved the dream of the bike more than actually having and riding the bike, 
  my guess is that he rode the bike about 10 miles or less (yes, I'm 
  serious). I acquired the bike in 2007 or 08  when he was going through a 
  domestic brake-up. I, in turn, had great plans to ride, but back surgery 
  and prostate cancer informed me otherwise. I rode it one afternoon at the 
  former Alameda Navel Air Base. Since that time, it's been hanging from the 
  collar ties in my painting studio. In short, during it's life, this bike 
  has hardly been used. And quite frankly, I enjoy just looking at it, but 
  it's time to pass it along to someone who will love and ride it as intended.

  Asking price: $3,200 (I don't want to dicker really, but I will entertain 
  any serious offer.)

  For images of the bike, please go 
  to:http://www.flickr.com/photos/not_relevant/sets/72157629229376958/

  Thanks (I encourage any constructive feedback)

  Napes

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[RBW] Re: beautiful rivendell fs

2012-03-21 Thread Napes
Trade Beads? I had to look it up. Came with the bike. They do kind of
set off her symmetry, now that you mention it.

On Mar 19, 12:31 pm, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 any bike that sports trade beads is right by my book.  She looks like
 a beauty,
 -liesl

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[RBW] Re: New HC poster

2012-03-21 Thread RJM
Great poster!!!  Love it.
On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:56:25 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote: 

 Our posters have been popular among the most tasteful members of this 
 group, though the RBW connection is not direct. Anyway, here is the version 
 for 2012. The quantity are limited to 100-ish.
 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/03/hc-poster-for-2012.html


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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Mmmm... based on what you related, I'd have to fault the grumpy cyclist.  

Since we can turn right on red lights (generally) here in CA, any time I'm 
stuck at a stop light, I'll attempt to favor the left side of the lane 
(assuming I'm in the rightmost lane).  It's just seemed to be the 
appropriately polite action for my fellow road users.  I've even lifted the 
bike up and moved further left if a larger vehicle is behind me with their 
blinker on.

I just tend to try to do those things which don't get me run over.  For 
example, there are actually a number of places in my commuting/riding area 
where the prevailing traffic flow turns right in certain areas - for 
example a three lane section where 99% of the center lane traffic is 
turning right to access a freeway onramp.  When there I'll actively move to 
the leftmost lane if I get caught by the red light. 

I dunno - just the way I'm wired - I just figure that I'm an ambassador 
when out on the roadway.  You don't have to (and arguably shouldn't) be 
passive in traffic.  But that seems a bit more confrontational than I'd be 
comfortable with. 

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread William
I'm similar to Jim

Technically, isn't it flat-out illegal to occupy a dedicated right turn 
lane with your vehicle and then go straight?  From the original description 
it sounded like both the bikes were in a right turn lane and neither one of 
them actually turned right.  I think that's a no-no.  

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:17:34 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Mmmm... based on what you related, I'd have to fault the grumpy cyclist.  

 Since we can turn right on red lights (generally) here in CA, any time I'm 
 stuck at a stop light, I'll attempt to favor the left side of the lane 
 (assuming I'm in the rightmost lane).  It's just seemed to be the 
 appropriately polite action for my fellow road users.  I've even lifted the 
 bike up and moved further left if a larger vehicle is behind me with their 
 blinker on.

 I just tend to try to do those things which don't get me run over.  For 
 example, there are actually a number of places in my commuting/riding area 
 where the prevailing traffic flow turns right in certain areas - for 
 example a three lane section where 99% of the center lane traffic is 
 turning right to access a freeway onramp.  When there I'll actively move to 
 the leftmost lane if I get caught by the red light. 

 I dunno - just the way I'm wired - I just figure that I'm an ambassador 
 when out on the roadway.  You don't have to (and arguably shouldn't) be 
 passive in traffic.  But that seems a bit more confrontational than I'd be 
 comfortable with. 

 - Jim

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[RBW] FS: Baggins Bags, B67, etc

2012-03-21 Thread Robert Kirkpatrick
Hey RBWs,

Doing some spring cleaning and I've got a few things for sale that might be of 
some interest here:

1) Rivendell Baggins Adam saddlebag - $125 shipped CONUS
Classic Baggins bag, in good shape but plenty of beusage.  I bought this used 
and fairly quickly determined that it was about the same capacity as my Paladin 
bag which I slightly prefer. So time to pass it along. It didn't come with the 
2 front leather straps and I never replaced them so those won't be included. 
The straps for the seat post and saddle are all present. Acorn sells leather 
straps that look like they'd work. Pictures can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/tags/bagginsadam/

2) Rivendell Baggins Candybar bag - $50 shipped CONUS
Another classic baggins bag, again well used but in good shape. The leather 
Baggins logo has a discolored line on it but I think with some leather polish 
it'd go away (that is to say none of the embossing is worn off).  Original 
leather stapes are present. Pictures can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/tags/bagginscandybarbag/

3) Arkel Laptop briefcase - $75 shipped CONUS
This was the original Arkel laptop briefcase which uses their older (but still 
very effective) mounting hardware. I always used a raincover with this bag and 
thus it is in very good shape. It includes a raincover which is. much more worn 
looking but still repelling moisture just fine. This is the best laptop 
carrying bag out there, with an internal, suspended waterproof sleeve that your 
laptop slides into (and can be removed - I'd often take this with me when doing 
non-bicycle traveling). Sleeve fits typical 15 laptops, I used it with two 
Apple laptops a 15 Titanium Powerbook and an 15 Alumininum MacBook Pro. 
Pictures can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/tags/arkellaptopbriefcase/

4) A Brooks b.67 - $50 shipped CONUS
Honey brown color. This sprung saddle is nicely broken in but has years if not 
decades of life left in it. I bought this around 2005 I think and the leather 
seems a lot thicker then the most recent Brooks I bought. A great saddle but a 
little wide for my sit bones so I eventually switched to a b.17. I kept it 
proofhided (but not overly so) and used a cover in the rain, so it's in great 
shape.. Pictures can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/tags/brooksb67/

All prices include shipping. Feel free to make offers. I'd also be willing to 
include any of these items in trade for a set of the old Baggins Pa Panniers in 
any sort of non-ripped condition.

Thanks for reading,
Robert

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Re: [RBW] Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 11:13 -0700, Liesl wrote:

 Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
 your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
 moved over and didn't think much about it.

I never get close to the curb at an intersection like that.  I generally
get in the middle of the lane with an eye out behind me for someone
signaling to make a turn; if there is someone signaling for a turn I
move left to leave them room.  

And I am *NEVER* going to get into an argument/shouting match with a
motorist at a traffic light.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Joe Broach
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Cyclofiend Jim
cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Since we can turn right on red lights (generally) here in CA, any time I'm
 stuck at a stop light, I'll attempt to favor the left side of the lane
 (assuming I'm in the rightmost lane). [...]

This hasn't worked so well for me here in Portland. Either the driver
is hyper-polite and won't pass me to turn right even though there's
room, or else they're aggressive enough that they pull up to my right
to go straight, leaving me in a lousy spot. I generally just stick to
the center of the lane. I figure if I were in a car going straight
they'd be just as stuck.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Technically, isn't it flat-out illegal to occupy a dedicated right turn lane
 with your vehicle and then go straight? [...]

Original poster didn't mention anything about a right-turn only lane.
Those are pretty rare in this neck of the woods. My opinion is the
motorist had no business honking and asking the cyclist to move. Maybe
the cyclist could have handled it better, but he may also have had
past experiences that justified his response.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or
http://cyclerslife.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Morgano
Now that I think about why this hasnt happened to me, we dont have any
right turn on red here in NYC so really not an issue. Of course when I am
going straight and see the guy next to me is turning I will eithe cheat up
past his bumper so I can clear the intersection before he turns or hang
back and wait for him to to turn if he seems aggressive or I cant get up
into the intersection before him.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Cyclofiend Jim
 cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
  Since we can turn right on red lights (generally) here in CA, any time
 I'm
  stuck at a stop light, I'll attempt to favor the left side of the lane
  (assuming I'm in the rightmost lane). [...]

 This hasn't worked so well for me here in Portland. Either the driver
 is hyper-polite and won't pass me to turn right even though there's
 room, or else they're aggressive enough that they pull up to my right
 to go straight, leaving me in a lousy spot. I generally just stick to
 the center of the lane. I figure if I were in a car going straight
 they'd be just as stuck.

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Technically, isn't it flat-out illegal to occupy a dedicated right turn
 lane
  with your vehicle and then go straight? [...]

 Original poster didn't mention anything about a right-turn only lane.
 Those are pretty rare in this neck of the woods. My opinion is the
 motorist had no business honking and asking the cyclist to move. Maybe
 the cyclist could have handled it better, but he may also have had
 past experiences that justified his response.

 Best,
 joe broach
 portland, or
 http://cyclerslife.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Liesl

From the original description it sounded like both the bikes were in
a right turn lane and neither one of them actually turned right.  I
think that's a no-no. 

To clarify:  There were two west-bound lanes, and the right-most lane
was/is not a dedicated turn lane, so the bikes were not doing a no-no
by proceeding straight.  Also, it's legal to do a right-on-red in
Minnesota unless otherwise posted, and this light isn't posted no-turn-
on-red.

-liesl

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Re: [RBW] Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Anne Paulson
Like the others, I would certainly not move to the right of
right-turning cars if I were planning  to turn right. Nor would I wait
on the right edge of the road in a situation where I expected
right-turning cars.  That is a recipe for being Right Hooked. When I'm
waiting at a light, I will move left to allow cars to turn right on my
righthand side, and motorists often do make a right turn from my right
side.

I often find myself more or less straddling  the lane line between the
right-turn lane and the straight-through lane at less-busy
intersections, although at a busy intersection I'm more likely to just
take the rightmost straight-through lane, which in many cases is also
the lane right-turning cars would be in. If I can't find a safe place
that will allow me to be to the left of right-turning cars, well,
they'll just have to wait. I was there first.

I loathe honking drivers and idiot drivers who go around to my left to
turn right. In my opinion, cyclists should not encourage such
imbeciles.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday
 on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light
 for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for
 you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one,
 just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a
 bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the
 right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep
 came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so
 she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to
 change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the
 light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over
 and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I
 refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less
 getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front,
 sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I
 heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm
 sorry I made you wait 40 seconds.

 Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood
 your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've
 moved over and didn't think much about it.

 The trees are leafing out here a full month early.

 Liesl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Anne Paulson
In that case, I would move left if possible. If not-- what would that
driver do if a car were ahead of her, waiting for the light?  She
would wait for the light. And that's what she should do if the
cyclists can't safely allow her to pass on their right. And she should
shut up.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 From the original description it sounded like both the bikes were in
 a right turn lane and neither one of them actually turned right.  I
 think that's a no-no. 

 To clarify:  There were two west-bound lanes, and the right-most lane
 was/is not a dedicated turn lane, so the bikes were not doing a no-no
 by proceeding straight.  Also, it's legal to do a right-on-red in
 Minnesota unless otherwise posted, and this light isn't posted no-turn-
 on-red.

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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread William
Sorry I missed that detail.  I've got a dedicated right turn lane on my 
commute home, so I deal with this particular maneuver daily.  

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:54:21 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:


 From the original description it sounded like both the bikes were in 
 a right turn lane and neither one of them actually turned right.  I 
 think that's a no-no.  

 To clarify:  There were two west-bound lanes, and the right-most lane 
 was/is not a dedicated turn lane, so the bikes were not doing a no-no 
 by proceeding straight.  Also, it's legal to do a right-on-red in 
 Minnesota unless otherwise posted, and this light isn't posted no-turn- 
 on-red. 

 -liesl 


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Re: [RBW] Newly assembled SimpleOne's first commute to work.

2012-03-21 Thread David Spranger
Thanks, Addison!

Phillip, I would be happy to contribute my thoughts on this setup to your 
blog. Give me a chance to put a couple of hundred miles on it first, so a 
couple of weeks would be fine.

Happy Camper, on the way home today, I had fender rub that I didn't feel on 
my way to work, so I still have some adjusting to do as well.

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:28:38 AM UTC-4, Addison wrote:

 Very nice!


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[RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread sanjoser
hello everyone

I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years 
or so.
different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've 
been
advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced 
every 
six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for 
change.
This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to 
explain that 
to this group. 
So, what 's the consensus?
best regards
tom

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Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser thomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello everyone

 I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years or
 so.
 different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc.
 I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've
 been
 advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced
 every
 six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for
 change.
 This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to
 explain that
 to this group.
 So, what 's the consensus?
 best regards
 tom


You have to service your hubs every 6 months??

that seems... excessive.
-sv

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[RBW] Post-winter tune-up/clean-up/maintenance advice sought.

2012-03-21 Thread Zack
So I just went through my first winter of Riv ownership in New England. 
 For those of you that don't know, we had a very very mild winter and are 
currently experiencing a crazy hot spell.  I think that winter is pretty 
much done (I have never seen anything like this, very weird stuff).  I can 
see it getting cold again for a bit, but not turning to winter again.  We 
shall see I guess.

At any rate, I had studded tires on the bike and rode most of the winter. 
 I haven't done anything other than cleaning and lubing the chain and the 
occasional wipe down.

What kind of tune up do you guys do before the long biking season begins?  

My bike was new to me in August or so, I am guessing I don't have cables to 
replace or anything like that, but just wondering what you do to 
maintain/start the new season.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread newenglandbike
I was thinking the same thing... unless I'm riding 60 miles every day, I 
don't want to be servicing hubs that often.  But back on the drivetrain 
question-   I'm sorry I can't make a recommendation if you want to get 
Campagnolo-   but I've had really good experience with shimano XT, 8-speed 
cassettes and KMC chains on my Bombadil.


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:26:57 PM UTC-4, Seth Vidal wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser thomas.savar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  hello everyone
 
  I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 
 years or
  so.
  different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc.
  I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've
  been
  advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced
  every
  six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for
  change.
  This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to
  explain that
  to this group.
  So, what 's the consensus?
  best regards
  tom
 

 You have to service your hubs every 6 months??

 that seems... excessive.
 -sv


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[RBW] bridgestone for sale in SF

2012-03-21 Thread davidfrench
I'm not affiliated to the seller in any way.
I just though some of you might be imterested

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/2890330408.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

2012-03-21 Thread davidfrench
Is this thing a tricycle?
What don't lean like a bike is not a bike!
:-)

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread William
What is it about campy that you like or want?  The brifters?  the 
11-speeds?  


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:25:06 PM UTC-7, sanjoser wrote:

 hello everyone

 I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years 
 or so.
 different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
 I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've 
 been
 advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced 
 every 
 six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for 
 change.
 This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to 
 explain that 
 to this group. 
 So, what 's the consensus?
 best regards
 tom


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:25:06 PM UTC-7, sanjoser wrote:

 hello everyone

 I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years 
 or so.
 different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
 I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've 
 been
 advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced 
 every 
 six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for 
 change.
 This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to 
 explain that 
 to this group. 
 So, what 's the consensus?
 best regards
 tom


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:25:06 PM UTC-7, sanjoser wrote:

 hello everyone

 I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years 
 or so.
 different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
 I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've 
 been
 advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced 
 every 
 six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for 
 change.
 This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to 
 explain that 
 to this group. 
 So, what 's the consensus?
 best regards
 tom


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[RBW] Re: Post-winter tune-up/clean-up/maintenance advice sought.

2012-03-21 Thread Smitty
Sounds to me that all you need to do is swap out tires and keep pedaling... 
assuming everything else (brakes, detailers, etc) works fine. 

One thing to consider... would be to get some degreaser and clean your 
drive train. Probably not mandatory though. 

--Smitty


  

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:

 So I just went through my first winter of Riv ownership in New England. 
  For those of you that don't know, we had a very very mild winter and are 
 currently experiencing a crazy hot spell.  I think that winter is pretty 
 much done (I have never seen anything like this, very weird stuff).  I can 
 see it getting cold again for a bit, but not turning to winter again.  We 
 shall see I guess.

 At any rate, I had studded tires on the bike and rode most of the winter. 
  I haven't done anything other than cleaning and lubing the chain and the 
 occasional wipe down.

 What kind of tune up do you guys do before the long biking season begins?  

 My bike was new to me in August or so, I am guessing I don't have cables 
 to replace or anything like that, but just wondering what you do to 
 maintain/start the new season.

 Thanks in advance!


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[RBW] Re: Post-winter tune-up/clean-up/maintenance advice sought.

2012-03-21 Thread William
After a bunch of wet riding, a good wipe down of the black grime off the 
rims and scrub the brakepads could be good.  That black filth grinds away 
brakepads and eventually even rim side walls.  Do you know how to check 
your chain for stretch?  Some people just swap out their chain every 2000 
miles (or some other convenient interval).  

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:52:08 PM UTC-7, Smitty wrote:

 Sounds to me that all you need to do is swap out tires and keep 
 pedaling... assuming everything else (brakes, detailers, etc) works fine. 

 One thing to consider... would be to get some degreaser and clean your 
 drive train. Probably not mandatory though. 

 --Smitty


   

 On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:

 So I just went through my first winter of Riv ownership in New England. 
  For those of you that don't know, we had a very very mild winter and are 
 currently experiencing a crazy hot spell.  I think that winter is pretty 
 much done (I have never seen anything like this, very weird stuff).  I can 
 see it getting cold again for a bit, but not turning to winter again.  We 
 shall see I guess.

 At any rate, I had studded tires on the bike and rode most of the winter. 
  I haven't done anything other than cleaning and lubing the chain and the 
 occasional wipe down.

 What kind of tune up do you guys do before the long biking season begins? 
  

 My bike was new to me in August or so, I am guessing I don't have cables 
 to replace or anything like that, but just wondering what you do to 
 maintain/start the new season.

 Thanks in advance!



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Re: [RBW] Post-winter tune-up/clean-up/maintenance advice sought.

2012-03-21 Thread Joe Broach
I'd add pull the stem, clean and regrease. There's no way to avoid
getting water (and possibly salt) down the steerer.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread eddie...@gmail.com
Tom, I've got Campagnolo setups on my Rambouillet and my Ritchey racing 
bike, and like it, but it's not all that Riv-ish. 

The best reason to use Campy (my opinion only) is to use Ergolevers, if you 
really want integrated levers. I like the 9-speed stuff a lot and have 
adapted 10-speed levers to 9-speed cassettes with a Shiftmate pulley. 

Campy has not appealed to me in recent years -- 11-speed, discontinuing 
their nice silver Centaur, Chorus and Record hubs, and the astronomical 
prices. I've adapted Ergolevers to Shimano drivetrains, using the Shiftmate 
and/or info from the web, which would be my approach if starting out today.

I really like their triple front derailleurs with all non-STI setups. 

Ed Felker
Washington, DC



 

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:25:06 PM UTC-4, sanjoser wrote:

 hello everyone

 I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 
 years or so.
 different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
 I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. 


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[RBW] Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

2012-03-21 Thread Ryan Ray
Ive had my fenders installed for me as I didn't want to mess them up and 
guess what? My local bike shop in Seattle (who I love) messed them up. They 
charged me allot and still only charged me half of how long it probably 
took them. Anyone have a good experience getting honjos installed in 
Seattle? I'm not looking for a new LBS, My LBS will always be my LBS as 
long as I live where I live but for this one task I think I need an expert. 
I was thinking of trying Dutch Bike Cafe...

Or any of you experts (like that envy inducing somervillebikes  guy) if you 
want to trade a few hours of my web work for your honjo installation 
experience...

- Ryan


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Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 15:36 -0700, eddie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I really like their triple front derailleurs with all non-STI setups. 
 

Let me echo this.  The Campagnolo Racing T front derailleur is the best
thing I've ever used on 24/36/46 and 26/36/48 compact triples shifted
with Shimano bar end shifters.  It continues to amaze me, because
Campagnolo has never had the slightest interest in this sort of gearing;
but the derailleurs are simply fantastic.



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Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I've got over 4k miles on a set of white industries hubs and they still font 
need service 

Sent from my Kindle Fire

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis


On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser thomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello everyone

 I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years or
 so.
 different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc.
 I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've
 been
 advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced
 every
 six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for
 change.
 This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to
 explain that
 to this group.
 So, what 's the consensus?
 best regards
 tom


You have to service your hubs every 6 months??

that seems... excessive.
-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread dailyrandonneur
Campy sold a 30-40-50 chainring option on their non-Record/Chorus triple 
cranksets. I like those cranks too, despite the 135 BCD and requirement to 
use a Campy-compatible square taper bottom bracket. Tough chainrings in the 
Centaur/Racing T level. 

Unfortunately Campy turned fully toward the racing/carbon market around 
2009, but there's lots of older stuff around and Campy has the Comp triple 
group in their lineup with that chainring combo if you want to buy new.

Ed



On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:45:32 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 15:36 -0700
  
  I really like their triple front derailleurs with all non-STI setups. 
  

 Let me echo this.  The Campagnolo Racing T front derailleur is the best
 thing I've ever used on 24/36/46 and 26/36/48 compact triples shifted
 with Shimano bar end shifters.  It continues to amaze me, because
 Campagnolo has never had the slightest interest in this sort of gearing;
 but the derailleurs are simply fantastic.



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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Somewhat unorthodox suggestion, but the smoothest shifting drivetrain I've 
ever owned or even heard about has been the SRAM X.9 2x10 kit recently 
installed on my Curt Goodrich (formerly I had the same group on a Redline 
mountain bike). The way the chainrings are ramped on the x.9 crank is a 
thing of beauty, but forget about swapping out other rings. My crank is a 
42/28, but a 39/26 is also available. I have an 11-36 cassette, which makes 
for a near perfect gear range. You'll probably maybe have to use a non-SRAM 
front derailleur for tire/fender clearance reasons. Of course the SRAM 
stuff is all black, smoky gray, or maybe white, which is what makes it 
unorthodox for a Riv. But if you can get over the color issue, it's awesome.

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:25:06 PM UTC-5, sanjoser wrote:

 hello everyone

 I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years 
 or so.
 different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. 
 I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've 
 been
 advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced 
 every 
 six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for 
 change.
 This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to 
 explain that 
 to this group. 
 So, what 's the consensus?
 best regards
 tom


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Re: [RBW] Re: First 200k

2012-03-21 Thread Brian Hanson
I haven't done the STP.  Too many people for me at this point.  The Chilly
Hilly was bad enough.  I like riding in small groups or alone - more
relaxing most of the time.  I will probably try a 300k this year, but it
depends on schedule more than anything at this point.  I agree on the pub
crawl.  We may have to fire up another Riv Ride PNW to compete with the
East Coast, Midwest folks!

Brian

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Alex Moll
alex_m...@lkstevens.wednet.eduwrote:

 Great report, Brian - I enjoyed reading that. 200K would be plenty for
 me, and you're NOT a slow rider. I just think most of those guys are
 FAST. Riding a 200K this time of year, in this weather, is really for
 the hard core riders anyway. I bet there are a greater number of
 medium (us), and slow riders in the summer.

 Have you done STP? Boy, that's a complete cross-section of riders.
 I've done it twice, and think I've seen just about everything. No
 desire to do it again, unless my sons really want to do it when they
 are teenagers.

 Keep telling us about your rando adventures. I'm interested, but not
 sure I'll commit just yet. I'm definitely game for a populaire
 (especially a pub crawl), and could probably swing a 200K in the
 summer. Anything longer will have to wait until the kids are grown.

 Cheers,
 Alex

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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-21 Thread Philip Williamson
If I were a Riv Chico in this scenario, I would be farther into the road so 
that lady would have to pass to the right of me to turn.
If I were that guy in the scenario, I'd be right next to you, center or 
left of center. It seems weird to hang behind another cyclist.
If I were the lady in the car... I'd respect the cyclist's refusal to move. 
Arguing when someone refuses my request would expose my politeness as a 
simple tactic to get my way, not a show of respect for them.

 Philip


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:13:48 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Riv Chicas y Chicos,  Here's one to throw in the hopper! Yesterday 
 on my commute home, I was stopped close to the right curb at a light 
 for a busy cross-street (Hiawatha Ave at 35th st in Minneapolis for 
 you twin cities folk).  I heard a horn behind me; not a blaring one, 
 just a can-I-get-your-attention one.  I turned around to look, and a 
 bit behind me was a man on a bike who was square in the middle of the 
 right lane.  Behind him was a woman in the car from whence the beep 
 came.  She asked in a very reasonable tone if he could move over so 
 she could make a right turn.  He replied no; the light was about to 
 change.  Then there ensued a brief but escalating argument while the 
 light didn't turn green with the biker vocally refusing to move over 
 and the frustrated woman asking why he wouldn't just move over.  I 
 refrained from turning around and watching the whole thing much less 
 getting involved.  The light finally turned green.  I, out in front, 
 sprinted across Hiawatha with the argument still going.  The last I 
 heard was the man shouting over his shoulder in a sarcastic tone: I'm 
 sorry I made you wait 40 seconds. 

 Curious to know what y'all think...would you have moved over?  stood 
 your ground?  In similar instances that I've been in, I know that I've 
 moved over and didn't think much about it. 

 The trees are leafing out here a full month early. 

 Liesl

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[RBW] Riv'd Up for Spring

2012-03-21 Thread Marty
Just out of the Winter woodshed - my trusty Stumpjumper - now with 
Bullmoose and Big Apples. Been gathering up all the right deer-head parts 
for the resurrection, and it's close. Need to re-dish the rear wheel as 
it's set up as a SS now. Still too small for me, so a future sale is 
possible. For now I'm having fun with the build. 

*http://tinyurl.com/7es53hx*
*
*
Marty

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Re: [RBW] Post-winter tune-up/clean-up/maintenance advice sought.

2012-03-21 Thread EricP
Would also suggest checking the chain.  I usually replace a chain either 
during the winter or at the end here in Minnesota.  Grit can get in and 
wreak havoc on the rest of the drivetrain.  Then again, this year we're 
also having a strange winter.  Took the studs off almost two weeks ago and 
already have a couple hundred miles on my Sam Hillborne.  (Can't get myself 
to ride it through the winter, though.)
 
Also check and clean the spokes and nipples.  Doesn't take much salt to 
gross them up good.
 
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:23:03 PM UTC-5, joe b. wrote:

 I'd add pull the stem, clean and regrease. There's no way to avoid
 getting water (and possibly salt) down the steerer.

 Best,
 joe broach
 portland, or


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Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
11K on a set of Phils and they feel like new. 10K and 7 K in two
(titanium!) bb assemblies, ditto. Heck, the --what, 30? 40? -- year
old 3 piece Phils on the old Herse I briefly owned were as smooth as
the newer ones.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Bruce Herbitter
bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've got over 4k miles on a set of white industries hubs and they still font
 need service

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 Subject: Re: [RBW] New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser thomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello everyone

 I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years
 or
 so.
 different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc.
 I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've
 been
 advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced
 every
 six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for
 change.
 This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to
 explain that
 to this group.
 So, what 's the consensus?
 best regards
 tom


 You have to service your hubs every 6 months??

 that seems... excessive.
 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

2012-03-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Don't *you* start! It was already kicked off the iBob list by the
moderatorsintheir
infinitewisdombelieveitornot. I say, if you pedal it, it counts.

Actually, I've been told that you can learn to lean them, but that
woud take away the entire point -- the fun of cornering with all three
wheels on the ground.

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 Is this thing a tricycle?
 What don't lean like a bike is not a bike!
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[RBW] Curiosity is Killing Me

2012-03-21 Thread Peter M
So the new Sam has me wondering, is my bike just too small? I had a
long convo with Keven on the clock at work today which was doubly nice
and he was trying to bang into my head that my 54 Hilsen is just too
small for someone with a 84pbh and who comes in at 250lbs.  Having had
a 58cm Saluki that just felt too big I thought maybe he was off or
that I just feel more comfortable on a smaller frame but notice that I
am trying to stretch the frame with a long stem and setback seatpost
so maybe he is on to something. I hate to be that guy that jumps from
bike to bike but I would love to find one that was just right and I
am not sure I am there yet.  I love the 650b wheels with the Hetres
and would hate to lose that by going up to the 56 Sam or 58 Atlantis
or 54 Hunqapillar, although those are all awesome bikes. My question
is if I was to shift my Hilsen frame for the 52 Sam is this just a
lateral move or would there be a significant difference that I would
feel?  If anyone has a 56 Hilsen for a straight trade or has any other
creative ideas I would be open to hear them.  I really do love the
unique color of the Hilsen I got from Joe and that it is actually one
of the older Salukis (SA 0193) that was badged a Hilsen which also
makes it somewhat unique so I would hate to give it up for something
that was just a lateral move. Thanks to anyone who can help me with my
ramblings here. Oh, link to my latest ride photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/

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[RBW] Nice XO-1

2012-03-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Someone just sent me this photo:
http://www.eandsweb.com/bikes/pics/bridgestone_xo1/117_1793.JPG

Quite a different setup from your today's Riv!

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread benzzoy
On Mar 21, 2:26 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, sanjoser thomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've been advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get 
  serviced
  every six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for
  change.

 You have to service your hubs every 6 months??

 that seems... excessive.

For those not familiar with Chris King hubs, that service refers to
relubricating the RingDrive freewheeling mechanism every 6 to 12
months. This isn't at all hard and all one needs are normal hand tools
and a bottle of Chris King RingDrive lubricant. OK, so you do need
that proprietary Chris King hub preload adjustment tool that's about
$25, but this is a 5-minute job and is distinctively not like
servicing a classic loose-ball hub.

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[RBW] Nice XO-1

2012-03-21 Thread Leslie
I like... 

Kinda like this?: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/6982957135/lightbox/

I kinda had that in mind...

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[RBW] Re: Longshot - WTB 32 Hole Campagnolo compatible rear cassette hub

2012-03-21 Thread benzzoy
On Mar 21, 8:08 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 Make sure you get the cassette lockring if you find a hub. They are
 hub-specific and not cheap.

Not necessarily. The older 9/10/11-speed Campagnolo hubs use the
smaller 26x1 lockrings that are somewhat hard to find and fairly
expensive, so with that you're correct. These hubs can typically be
identified by their old-style steel or titanium threaded axles.

However, more recent (post-1999) hubs all use the 27x1 lockrings;
these are cheap'n'plentiful and in fact come with new cassettes.
Campagnolo started with including them with cassettes, then stopping
that practice, and now has resumed that practice again. Hurray for us!

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[RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

2012-03-21 Thread benzzoy
Can I please ask how your shop messed the installation up?

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Re: [RBW] Nice XO-1

2012-03-21 Thread Andrew
Those wiggly splayed-stays look beautiful. I hope it becomes a signature
RBW element.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like...

 Kinda like this?:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/6982957135/lightbox/

 I kinda had that in mind...



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Re: [RBW] Curiosity is Killing Me

2012-03-21 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I have a 79.2 PBH and I'm getting a 54 HIlsen!  You have 5 cm on me
and are using the same frame...

I have a 54 Ram with a little bit of standover clearance. At least I'm
done having kids in the event of a disaster ;).

Toshi


On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 So the new Sam has me wondering, is my bike just too small? I had a
 long convo with Keven on the clock at work today which was doubly nice
 and he was trying to bang into my head that my 54 Hilsen is just too
 small for someone with a 84pbh and who comes in at 250lbs.

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[RBW] Re: Seattle Honjo Install Recommendation in Seattle

2012-03-21 Thread rcnute
Perhaps Elliott Bay could do it?

If the fenders are already messed up spend an afternoon tinkering with
them and you'll have it all figured out for next time.

Ryan

On Mar 21, 3:40 pm, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ive had my fenders installed for me as I didn't want to mess them up and
 guess what? My local bike shop in Seattle (who I love) messed them up. They
 charged me allot and still only charged me half of how long it probably
 took them. Anyone have a good experience getting honjos installed in
 Seattle? I'm not looking for a new LBS, My LBS will always be my LBS as
 long as I live where I live but for this one task I think I need an expert.
 I was thinking of trying Dutch Bike Cafe...

 Or any of you experts (like that envy inducing somervillebikes  guy) if you
 want to trade a few hours of my web work for your honjo installation
 experience...

 - Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Curiosity is Killing Me

2012-03-21 Thread rcnute
Your setup doesn't look like the bike is too small.  As long as it
feels fine, it's fine.

I'd think on a 56 Hilsen/Saluki that you'd be running a slightly
shorter periscope stem (unless you wanted to extend the reach
slightly), but it'd still be high because it looks like you prefer
your bars that way.  You'd have a bit less standover height.

I have the same PBH and a 58 Saluki fit but felt too big.  The 56 Sam
I test rode felt a little long in the top tube.  I remember looking at
the 52 Sam and thinking it'd be too small.  My 57 Bleriot was just
right.  I briefly had a 54 Saluki but didn't build it up because I
quickly realized it would be too small for me with my preferred reach/
drop.

I'm 5'9 or so.

Ryan (that guy that jumps from bike to bike)

On Mar 21, 6:56 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 So the new Sam has me wondering, is my bike just too small? I had a
 long convo with Keven on the clock at work today which was doubly nice
 and he was trying to bang into my head that my 54 Hilsen is just too
 small for someone with a 84pbh and who comes in at 250lbs.  Having had
 a 58cm Saluki that just felt too big I thought maybe he was off or
 that I just feel more comfortable on a smaller frame but notice that I
 am trying to stretch the frame with a long stem and setback seatpost
 so maybe he is on to something. I hate to be that guy that jumps from
 bike to bike but I would love to find one that was just right and I
 am not sure I am there yet.  I love the 650b wheels with the Hetres
 and would hate to lose that by going up to the 56 Sam or 58 Atlantis
 or 54 Hunqapillar, although those are all awesome bikes. My question
 is if I was to shift my Hilsen frame for the 52 Sam is this just a
 lateral move or would there be a significant difference that I would
 feel?  If anyone has a 56 Hilsen for a straight trade or has any other
 creative ideas I would be open to hear them.  I really do love the
 unique color of the Hilsen I got from Joe and that it is actually one
 of the older Salukis (SA 0193) that was badged a Hilsen which also
 makes it somewhat unique so I would hate to give it up for something
 that was just a lateral move. Thanks to anyone who can help me with my
 ramblings here. Oh, link to my latest ride 
 photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/

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[RBW] Re: Longshot - WTB 32 Hole Campagnolo compatible rear cassette hub

2012-03-21 Thread Brewster Fong


On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:58:42 PM UTC-7, benzzoy wrote:

 On Mar 21, 8:08 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  Make sure you get the cassette lockring if you find a hub. They are 
  hub-specific and not cheap. 

 Not necessarily. The older 9/10/11-speed Campagnolo hubs use the 
 smaller 26x1 lockrings that are somewhat hard to find and fairly 
 expensive, so with that you're correct. These hubs can typically be 
 identified by their old-style steel or titanium threaded axles.  

 However, more recent (post-1999) hubs all use the 27x1 lockrings; 
 these are cheap'n'plentiful and in fact come with new cassettes. 
 Campagnolo started with including them with cassettes, then stopping 
 that practice, and now has resumed that practice again. Hurray for us!

 
Agree, if you can find them, the 1999 thru 2006 Record/Chorus/Centaur hubs 
are some of the best ever made!  These 3 hubs have basically the same 
innards (cones, races, bearings) and are among the lightest hubs every 
made. After around 2006, Campy discontinued the Chorus and moved the 
Centaur hub to be more in line with the lower Veloce/Mirage line. Too bad,

For alternatives, look at White hubs. If you want cheaper, check out the 
Ambrosio Zenith:

http://www.totalcycling.com/road-components/hubs/hubs_road/HB_ZENITH_S_R_CAMPAGNOLO.html
 

This is basically the same hub that Jan H sells under the Grand Bois name. 
Jan raved about the GB hub, so this should work out well.

As for lockrings, yes it comes with the cassette. If you want a cheaper 
alternative to Campy, check out the miche campy compatible cassette, it 
also comes with a matching lockring. Good Luck!

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