[RBW] Why yes. It was snowing on Mt Ham.
So cool! Or cold... No pictures of the weather van? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Subject Lines
Being back in California, the only way I can tell that it's winter is that the list gets testy. Yes, friends, please title your threads sensibly. I know I've come back to posts I've written and thought, what? The title made sense to me at the time... It takes 2 seconds to reread your post title after you've written the post, and another 4 seconds to answer the question does this describe my post? Manny's Snow on Mt Ham title was great, I thought. If that was my first introduction to the topic, it would have hooked me, and I would have had a good idea of what was to come. The other thing I've had to learn... is to reread my posts and ask myself, does this advance the dialog on this list, or am I just showing off, or blurting out? If the post or reply is all about me, I delete it. Some of you are saying, sure, half the time... Yeah, well I'm a recovering smart ass, and it's one day at a time... Not an admin, just an Internet bike nerd like yourselves, but I think the list does a fantastic job of policing itself. Philip several jokes redacted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Why yes. It was snowing on Mt Ham.
Manny, what a great time! Thanks again so much for planning it out! As great as Manny's photos are, the scenery was even more beautiful. We were just riding along with roads completely to ourselves saying how lucky we were. It was a good mix of some trails and roads, which is my favorite kind of riding, as probably most on the list. The snow was a blast. We had some repair issues( mud under too tight of fender lines and a couple o flats), but that added to the adventure. Cant wait to do it again! -Mike On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: First of all to set the record straight we didn't know it was going to snow at the top. As beautiful as snow is it's pretty stupid to put yourself in any type danger without being properly prepared. When the date got nearer I figured it was just going to be a long wet ride after the second day. We were clearly wrong. The first day it was a great, gray,cold day for climbing. As bad as that sounds I believe it's the best time to climb anything. Never overheated as long as you regulate your layering. We took the long way to get to San Jose hitting the local dirt to make things interesting. Once we got into Grant Ranch Mike picked out a great camping spot were we had an amazing clog artery-ing dinner of Spam quesadillas. Second day when we started climbing up into colder wetter weather. About 3000 ft we started seeing icicles. At the top we saw a good layer of frost on a lot of the trees. For us Californians' we rarely get to see any snow, so we were having a blast. Cold, wet and hungry we retreated inside for warmt and food. The Licks Observatory and Post Office were close so we made hot chocolate and had some salami and cheese inside. As our chocolate cooled down the snow started coming slowly. Then it started coming down hard. Amgood 4 inches before we knew it. While 4 inches of snow may not be a big deal to you mid-US folks. It was a big deal when you had another 4000 feet of descent to go. To be honest I was pretty freaked out and ready to call it quits, but Mike convinced me otherwise and reminded that me that we are on bikes and worse case we just walk down. So we suited up with everything we go. Mike with his rain covers, doctor latex gloves under wool gloves and his three jackets and two pants. Myself I was prepared but I had to make due with bandana socks with the splats, and my sleeping wool oneise under all my clothes. Before we went down we got flag down by a local news team. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/02/19/winter-storm-bringing-rain-snow-to-northern-california/ They cut my speaking part .. something about being long winded The ride was fine. Like riding in soft slippery sand, we took it easy and got the hell off the road when we saw cars. Every car that passed us looked like they had trouble they pooled over and asked if we needed a ride, Once we dropped down 2000 ft all the snow turned into cold rain and we rode basically in a drizzle till we got to the Junction Cafe, which THANKFULLY was open. When Anne said biker bar, I was expecting a hardcore bar with motorcycles outside and bar fights inside. Way opposite. Nice family, old fashion, truck stop restaurant that had everything and anything you needed for the last 30 miles. We warmed up, had burgers and made out way to great looking weather the rest of the ride. We even saw the sun as we descended down to Livermoore. Really memorable trip. Glad I got to check off something off my bucket list. Pictures proved that yea it did snow at Hamilton. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE4nrf9 - Manny wool oneise Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Why yes. It was snowing on Mt Ham.
Epic!. Manny looks cold. I notice that the reporter seems to have a head cold. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Manny, what a great time! Thanks again so much for planning it out! As great as Manny's photos are, the scenery was even more beautiful. We were just riding along with roads completely to ourselves saying how lucky we were. It was a good mix of some trails and roads, which is my favorite kind of riding, as probably most on the list. The snow was a blast. We had some repair issues( mud under too tight of fender lines and a couple o flats), but that added to the adventure. Cant wait to do it again! -Mike On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: First of all to set the record straight we didn't know it was going to snow at the top. As beautiful as snow is it's pretty stupid to put yourself in any type danger without being properly prepared. When the date got nearer I figured it was just going to be a long wet ride after the second day. We were clearly wrong. The first day it was a great, gray,cold day for climbing. As bad as that sounds I believe it's the best time to climb anything. Never overheated as long as you regulate your layering. We took the long way to get to San Jose hitting the local dirt to make things interesting. Once we got into Grant Ranch Mike picked out a great camping spot were we had an amazing clog artery-ing dinner of Spam quesadillas. Second day when we started climbing up into colder wetter weather. About 3000 ft we started seeing icicles. At the top we saw a good layer of frost on a lot of the trees. For us Californians' we rarely get to see any snow, so we were having a blast. Cold, wet and hungry we retreated inside for warmt and food. The Licks Observatory and Post Office were close so we made hot chocolate and had some salami and cheese inside. As our chocolate cooled down the snow started coming slowly. Then it started coming down hard. Amgood 4 inches before we knew it. While 4 inches of snow may not be a big deal to you mid-US folks. It was a big deal when you had another 4000 feet of descent to go. To be honest I was pretty freaked out and ready to call it quits, but Mike convinced me otherwise and reminded that me that we are on bikes and worse case we just walk down. So we suited up with everything we go. Mike with his rain covers, doctor latex gloves under wool gloves and his three jackets and two pants. Myself I was prepared but I had to make due with bandana socks with the splats, and my sleeping wool oneise under all my clothes. Before we went down we got flag down by a local news team. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/02/19/winter-storm-bringing-rain-snow-to-northern-california/ They cut my speaking part .. something about being long winded The ride was fine. Like riding in soft slippery sand, we took it easy and got the hell off the road when we saw cars. Every car that passed us looked like they had trouble they pooled over and asked if we needed a ride, Once we dropped down 2000 ft all the snow turned into cold rain and we rode basically in a drizzle till we got to the Junction Cafe, which THANKFULLY was open. When Anne said biker bar, I was expecting a hardcore bar with motorcycles outside and bar fights inside. Way opposite. Nice family, old fashion, truck stop restaurant that had everything and anything you needed for the last 30 miles. We warmed up, had burgers and made out way to great looking weather the rest of the ride. We even saw the sun as we descended down to Livermoore. Really memorable trip. Glad I got to check off something off my bucket list. Pictures proved that yea it did snow at Hamilton. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE4nrf9 - Manny wool oneise Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message
Re: [RBW] Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 20:15 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Cable routing for new components on old frames may be an issue. I remember back when 7 speed Hyperglide first came in and people were upgrading their 6-speed tandems they had a lot of trouble with the way the cables were routed under the captain's bottom bracket. I'm not sure if the old style Campagnolo above-the-bottom-bracket front shifter cable routing works for indexing. What other cable routing issues might be problematic on older frames? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Subject Lines
can somebody tell me what this thread's about? Sorry, couldn't resist. I can tell you from being on several antique collecting boards (the the subject, not necessarily the posters), searching the archives for historic data is so much easier if identifying information about the topic, item, etc. is in the subject line. The What is This? thread may have great photos, historical documentation, but it will be lost in a week or two. Honestly? I've tried searching topics that I remembered on this board, trying to glean some great technical bit I vaguely remember, but is now lost in the shuffle... On Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:25:40 AM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: Being back in California, the only way I can tell that it's winter is that the list gets testy. Yes, friends, please title your threads sensibly. I know I've come back to posts I've written and thought, what? The title made sense to me at the time... It takes 2 seconds to reread your post title after you've written the post, and another 4 seconds to answer the question does this describe my post? Manny's Snow on Mt Ham title was great, I thought. If that was my first introduction to the topic, it would have hooked me, and I would have had a good idea of what was to come. The other thing I've had to learn... is to reread my posts and ask myself, does this advance the dialog on this list, or am I just showing off, or blurting out? If the post or reply is all about me, I delete it. Some of you are saying, sure, half the time... Yeah, well I'm a recovering smart ass, and it's one day at a time... Not an admin, just an Internet bike nerd like yourselves, but I think the list does a fantastic job of policing itself. Philip several jokes redacted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
Jim might be able to more acurately chime in on this, but after about a dozen years in the shops, I think its the other way around. Shops make money on partsand labor. At least for me, standard markup on a complete bike was in the 30-35% range. The markup on parts was 100% and labor was just pure gold. Thats was years ago, but even then the labor rate was based off of something like $75 hourly. Your shop may vary, but thats how it worked in my area (Cincinnati). We liked to sell hot bikes for one reason only, because we got to build them. There was a special enjoyment from wrenching on top-o-the-line stuff. The boss wanted us changing front tubes all day, they were the fastest easy money that you could make on a two minute repair. More or less, a shop saying you can't run a 130 wheel in a 126 frame is just lazy. It probably tells me that the employee was also the mechanic and just didnt want to do the work. He'll get paid minimum wage either way. Scott On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:55 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say my experience with many bike stores here in Southern California has been that they are devoted to selling new race bikes, that's where the $$ is in their business plan. I have found some local coop type institutions around rehabilitating old bikes, tho they can be dis-organized and difficult to work with. That's why this group is invaluable IMHO. Hugh Sunland, Ca On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:26:00 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I asked my LBS and they figured it couldn't be done. Wow, I'm all for supporting one's LBS, but it's too bad they have such limited knowledge. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
I can certainly envision several reasons why your LBS told you that. It could be that the shop employee was inexperienced and doesn't know much about older bikes. Or it could be that the shop doesn't want the liability associated with installing parts that are, technically speaking, incompatible with the frame. Or maybe, they've gone down the rabbit hole of modernizing old bikes in the past, and feel that it isn't worth the trouble. I know that I've had experience with that kind of thing, where some unforeseen and seemingly trivial incompatibility issue causes the project to take 5x longer than quoted and in the end, the solution was a kludge that isn't 100% satisfactory. Or maybe you're the fifth guy this week who wanted to put a modern parts group on an old bike, and they figured that, like the previous four, you'd balk at the high price, and it would be just easier for everybody if they cut to the chase and say no. After all, buying a parts group and wheelset and the labor to install it all can often cost as much as or more than a new bike that has the same parts and wheelset. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
Cold setting a steel frame is very simple and easy. A frame builder taught me how to do it in just minutes, and to perfection :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Subject Lines
Life is One Helluva Grand Dream ! That's all I gotta say ;) lol lol lol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
Jim, based on my experience, you are right on the money. When I got out to Colorado and wanted someone to just look over my 1971 Schwinn SS, no one in boulder would even touch it, and only one shop in Denver would. That particular shop (CycleAnalyst) had an experienced mechanic that did a nice job of getting the bike safe again. But it wasn't easy. And I wasn't trying to update it. jim in Boulder On Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:53:40 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I can certainly envision several reasons why your LBS told you that. It could be that the shop employee was inexperienced and doesn't know much about older bikes. Or it could be that the shop doesn't want the liability associated with installing parts that are, technically speaking, incompatible with the frame. Or maybe, they've gone down the rabbit hole of modernizing old bikes in the past, and feel that it isn't worth the trouble. I know that I've had experience with that kind of thing, where some unforeseen and seemingly trivial incompatibility issue causes the project to take 5x longer than quoted and in the end, the solution was a kludge that isn't 100% satisfactory. Or maybe you're the fifth guy this week who wanted to put a modern parts group on an old bike, and they figured that, like the previous four, you'd balk at the high price, and it would be just easier for everybody if they cut to the chase and say no. After all, buying a parts group and wheelset and the labor to install it all can often cost as much as or more than a new bike that has the same parts and wheelset. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] First Dixie Mtn ride of 2013.
Yesterday my friend Ed and I rode Dixie Mtn, a local ride here in Portland that takes in miles of dirt climbs. We did what I consider to be the classic route which goes out to Scappoose and takes in Otto Miller Rd. Dixie Mtn can also be ridden from Washington County. No rain. No mechanicals. Miles of quiet roads. A little exploration. Just a really nice day on the bike. I wasn't on my Hilsen, but I was on my LHT which is very Riv-centric. For Portland Riv listers, Smitty and I have been talking about doing a Riv ride out that way. I'm not sure what the total mileage would be but bring your climbing legs. Here's some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157632818000164/with/8493702690/ mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Why yes. It was snowing on Mt Ham.
Why didn't you push the reporter out of the way for more (hooded) face time? On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:52:01 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: cut http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/02/19/winter-storm-bringing-rain-snow-to-northern-california/ They cut my speaking part .. something about being long winded cut - Manny wool oneise Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT Bunyan Velo
Wonderful read, I couldn't put it down. The writing was head and shoulders above anything in the popular cycling press, as I read I kept thinking of it as literary bicycle magazine, there was actual thought and reflection in the articles and the photography. It reminded me of Peltenon and Switchback but with better writing and definitely better layout. Thanks for sharing. On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5:41:36 PM UTC-6, Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Bunyan Velo is a new online publication by a local guy that is focused on bicycle travel and adventure. I wrote an article and provided a bunch of photos for the first issue, which was released today. It's really nicely done, in my opinion, and I think some of you will enjoy it. http://www.bunyanvelo.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT Bunyan Velo
Lovely read. Great pictures! On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:41:36 PM UTC-8, Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Bunyan Velo is a new online publication by a local guy that is focused on bicycle travel and adventure. I wrote an article and provided a bunch of photos for the first issue, which was released today. It's really nicely done, in my opinion, and I think some of you will enjoy it. http://www.bunyanvelo.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Subject Lines
Yeah, well I'm a recovering smart ass, and it's one day at a time... Perhaps we could contract jinxed to design us a cloisonne pin: Association of Recovering Smart-asses On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:25:40 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: Being back in California, the only way I can tell that it's winter is that the list gets testy. Yes, friends, please title your threads sensibly. I know I've come back to posts I've written and thought, what? The title made sense to me at the time... It takes 2 seconds to reread your post title after you've written the post, and another 4 seconds to answer the question does this describe my post? Manny's Snow on Mt Ham title was great, I thought. If that was my first introduction to the topic, it would have hooked me, and I would have had a good idea of what was to come. The other thing I've had to learn... is to reread my posts and ask myself, does this advance the dialog on this list, or am I just showing off, or blurting out? If the post or reply is all about me, I delete it. Some of you are saying, sure, half the time... Yeah, well I'm a recovering smart ass, and it's one day at a time... Not an admin, just an Internet bike nerd like yourselves, but I think the list does a fantastic job of policing itself. Philip several jokes redacted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Subject Lines
You could get a nice acronym, without too much tweaking. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:30 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Subject Lines Yeah, well I'm a recovering smart ass, and it's one day at a time... Perhaps we could contract jinxed to design us a cloisonne pin: Association of Recovering Smart-asses On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:25:40 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: Being back in California, the only way I can tell that it's winter is that the list gets testy. Yes, friends, please title your threads sensibly. I know I've come back to posts I've written and thought, what? The title made sense to me at the time... It takes 2 seconds to reread your post title after you've written the post, and another 4 seconds to answer the question does this describe my post? Manny's Snow on Mt Ham title was great, I thought. If that was my first introduction to the topic, it would have hooked me, and I would have had a good idea of what was to come. The other thing I've had to learn... is to reread my posts and ask myself, does this advance the dialog on this list, or am I just showing off, or blurting out? If the post or reply is all about me, I delete it. Some of you are saying, sure, half the time... Yeah, well I'm a recovering smart ass, and it's one day at a time... Not an admin, just an Internet bike nerd like yourselves, but I think the list does a fantastic job of policing itself. Philip several jokes redacted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Why yes. It was snowing on Mt Ham.
Great story, epic ride. And ANY chance to visit The Junction Bar and Grill on two wheels is worth whatever one has to endure to get there. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT Bunyan Velo
I'm not easily impressed by writing or photos, but the photos in this collection are among the best I've seen in a bike publication and many are National Geographic quality. Haven't read it, just skimmed the pictures, so can't comment on the quality of writing but will peruse it later when I have more time. I was however disappointed that the bosque article was not more informative and a less merely impressionistic, and that the photos were not more straightforward and -- well, more informative, too. Of what interest is the lower quarter of a knobby tire? I take it the author is riding somewhere near my spot (the junction of the N-S bosque and E-W Central Ave/Route 66 is about 5 miles directly south of me). The bosque is desert compared to, say, Valley State Park on Maui, but it is still beautiful, even in winter. https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/CORRALESBOSQUEJUSTEASTOFCORRALESROAD061512#5754330934117426482 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Lovely read. Great pictures! On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:41:36 PM UTC-8, Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Bunyan Velo is a new online publication by a local guy that is focused on bicycle travel and adventure. I wrote an article and provided a bunch of photos for the first issue, which was released today. It's really nicely done, in my opinion, and I think some of you will enjoy it. http://www.bunyanvelo.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Using Google Chrome to view this forum.... Help!!
Does anyone use Google Chrome to view this forum? When I use Chrome I seem to lose certain functionality (like the ability to view user profiles or obtain email addresses). This functionality works for IE (and I believe Safari). Perhaps I have my Chrome settings improperly configured? Anyone have any insight? Thanks! Bobby *ashamed to admit he's an 'IT' guy* Birmingham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Using Google Chrome to view this forum.... Help!!
Bobby, I use Chrome. I have found that for those who have public profiles, I cannot link to their profile from the RBW owners bunch page, but if I opened the thread they posted to, and drag the mouse to their photo, a pop-up box with a link to their profile appears. If this doesn't work for you, maybe it's a pop-up setting? On Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:55:27 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Does anyone use Google Chrome to view this forum? When I use Chrome I seem to lose certain functionality (like the ability to view user profiles or obtain email addresses). This functionality works for IE (and I believe Safari). Perhaps I have my Chrome settings improperly configured? Anyone have any insight? Thanks! Bobby *ashamed to admit he's an 'IT' guy* Birmingham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Using Google Chrome to view this forum.... Help!!
It all seems to work for me on a MacBook Pro vintage 2011. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Bobby, I use Chrome. I have found that for those who have public profiles, I cannot link to their profile from the RBW owners bunch page, but if I opened the thread they posted to, and drag the mouse to their photo, a pop-up box with a link to their profile appears. If this doesn't work for you, maybe it's a pop-up setting? On Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:55:27 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Does anyone use Google Chrome to view this forum? When I use Chrome I seem to lose certain functionality (like the ability to view user profiles or obtain email addresses). This functionality works for IE (and I believe Safari). Perhaps I have my Chrome settings improperly configured? Anyone have any insight? Thanks! Bobby ashamed to admit he's an 'IT' guy Birmingham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT Bunyan Velo
Patrick: I can only speculate about the tire photo: perhaps the author and editor think the image of a 26x4.8 Big Fat Larry tire on a 100mm wide Clown Shoe rim is impressive. I tend to agree. Whenever I work on a Moonlander, everything else, even a Pugsley, seems inadequate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
Patrick: With David on board Manny working on it, the event will be well photo'd, for sure. Ventura has grown out along Hwy 126 but thankfully change comes slowly in Ventura County. Still miles of agriculture and 2 lane country roads. This is looking like a major event. Can't wait to put faces to names bikes. dougP On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:18:17 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Please take and post many photos. I've not seen the Ventura/Ojai/Santa Paula/Filmore area for 30+ years. It was beautiful back then -- orange groves and hills. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: Looks good. Rob. Let's see if the planets aline and I can convince the lady friend to get down there. On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:12:01 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote: Save the Date, if you still can, and have the time to make it to our little part of the SoCal playground. April 7 is gelling as the date for this year's Sulphur Mtn loop out of Ventura. I revised the back end of the loop a bit from years past, and you can see this year's route here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2159896 47 miles and 3700 feet of climbing. Start is in Ventura, Up the River Trail to sulphur Mtn where it is a 10 mile dirt climb, with a great drop back into Ojai, then home through a combination of country roads and the river trail. Meet up in Ventura near Garden St and Santa Clara by 9 and hit the road around 9:30. This is a no man left behind sort of ride. We will be taking breaks for re-groups etc. I recommend 3 water bottles as a minimum for the climb up Sulphur. Tires 32mm wide for the dirt, gearing for 8-10% grades and brakes in order for the back side of the mountain are all suggested as well. We will stop at one of the many options for lunch in Ojai to grab something quick to eat and get back on the Road. This is a no host ride and not associated or sponsored by Ocean Air Cycles, just a bunch of like minded folks getting together for a fun ride. Feel free to invite friends and spread the word. The ride is all about having fun and enjoying the local scenery, pace is moderate, by no means a hammer fest, but the climbing will likely test your endurance. I am looking forward to riding with all of you, meeting some new friends and sharing some of the best riding our region has to offer. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
I had some shops tell me I had to do it and some tell me I didn't. Then I just tried it after all the hubub and my frame was slightly wider than 126. I didn't really have to pull it apart much at all so I just went with it. The must-cold-set folks lose a little credibility with all the steel frames that measure 132.5 or whatever and let you use both MTB and road hubs. Still, if it was a super nice frame and was a tight 126 I'd pay to get it done right. - Ryan On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:17:11 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Hey there sprocket heads, a little off topic but curious if any of you have experience rehabing old frame sets with modern 10 speed groups? In advance thanks. Hugh Sunland, Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
Thanks -- look forward very much to the photos, which I'll share with my brother Peter (not on this list) who spent even more time in the area. I look back on my time there with some nostalgia. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:38 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: With David on board Manny working on it, the event will be well photo'd, for sure. Ventura has grown out along Hwy 126 but thankfully change comes slowly in Ventura County. Still miles of agriculture and 2 lane country roads. This is looking like a major event. Can't wait to put faces to names bikes. dougP On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:18:17 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Please take and post many photos. I've not seen the Ventura/Ojai/Santa Paula/Filmore area for 30+ years. It was beautiful back then -- orange groves and hills. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.com wrote: Looks good. Rob. Let's see if the planets aline and I can convince the lady friend to get down there. On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:12:01 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote: Save the Date, if you still can, and have the time to make it to our little part of the SoCal playground. April 7 is gelling as the date for this year's Sulphur Mtn loop out of Ventura. I revised the back end of the loop a bit from years past, and you can see this year's route here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2159896 47 miles and 3700 feet of climbing. Start is in Ventura, Up the River Trail to sulphur Mtn where it is a 10 mile dirt climb, with a great drop back into Ojai, then home through a combination of country roads and the river trail. Meet up in Ventura near Garden St and Santa Clara by 9 and hit the road around 9:30. This is a no man left behind sort of ride. We will be taking breaks for re-groups etc. I recommend 3 water bottles as a minimum for the climb up Sulphur. Tires 32mm wide for the dirt, gearing for 8-10% grades and brakes in order for the back side of the mountain are all suggested as well. We will stop at one of the many options for lunch in Ojai to grab something quick to eat and get back on the Road. This is a no host ride and not associated or sponsored by Ocean Air Cycles, just a bunch of like minded folks getting together for a fun ride. Feel free to invite friends and spread the word. The ride is all about having fun and enjoying the local scenery, pace is moderate, by no means a hammer fest, but the climbing will likely test your endurance. I am looking forward to riding with all of you, meeting some new friends and sharing some of the best riding our region has to offer. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Subject Lines
Oh THANKS, William I just sent off ANOTHER $6 to Jinxed... brilliant! * * Bobby (*better read it twice) *Birmingham On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:30:22 AM UTC-5, William wrote: Yeah, well I'm a recovering smart ass, and it's one day at a time... Perhaps we could contract jinxed to design us a cloisonne pin: Association of Recovering Smart-asses On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:25:40 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: Being back in California, the only way I can tell that it's winter is that the list gets testy. Yes, friends, please title your threads sensibly. I know I've come back to posts I've written and thought, what? The title made sense to me at the time... It takes 2 seconds to reread your post title after you've written the post, and another 4 seconds to answer the question does this describe my post? Manny's Snow on Mt Ham title was great, I thought. If that was my first introduction to the topic, it would have hooked me, and I would have had a good idea of what was to come. The other thing I've had to learn... is to reread my posts and ask myself, does this advance the dialog on this list, or am I just showing off, or blurting out? If the post or reply is all about me, I delete it. Some of you are saying, sure, half the time... Yeah, well I'm a recovering smart ass, and it's one day at a time... Not an admin, just an Internet bike nerd like yourselves, but I think the list does a fantastic job of policing itself. Philip several jokes redacted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Mini Front Rack - $100
For sale: Nitto Mini front rack (aka Campee 32F) was briefly used and in great condition. Fits on Rivendell and Rawland rSogn bikes with hourglass braze-ons (see photo), but comes with p-clamps for any road fork. See Riv's page for more info: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r2.htm $100, shipped in the Continental US. Trades considered: Nitto Mark's Rack, 650B tires, or 650B rims (rim brake). Jon Watertown, MA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
Garth, you can't set up a teaser like that and not offer some knowledge to the rest of us, who have just been stretching and sliding wheelsets in for all these years...and some photos too! Happy Snowy Day in Loveland, CO... On Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:59:05 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Cold setting a steel frame is very simple and easy. A frame builder taught me how to do it in just minutes, and to perfection :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
There was a blug or email note about this several months ago. I'll never find it but the gist was that he (Grant) turned the project over to someone on his staff to refine or rework the design and when that is finished he'll make prototype/production decisions. Of course, you may be asking about progress since that note in which case, ???. On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:58:02 AM UTC-8, murphyjrfk wrote: Does any one know if the budget riv is still being considered planned anything? I hope so. And sooner rather than later. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB All Rounder 57 or 59
Jake, this is maller than you're looking for, but maybe it'll work. Or maybe it'll catch someone else's eye here: This is a 21 (CTT) All Arounder that I saw on The Paceline classifieds: http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=122073 Daniel Yorba Linda, CA On Monday, February 18, 2013 11:04:58 AM UTC-8, Jake Davis wrote: Maybe this is a long shot, but I'm on the hunt for a 57cm or 59cm All-Rounder. Anybody have one (frameset or complete) that they don't ride that often and would like to sell to an interested party? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Misc. Parts
Update: Some things were sold...Here's what's left: (1) unopened package CCP-22 Park Tool Crank Puller ($10)...(1) set of Tektro R559 Brakes, new in pkg. ($55)...(1) Sugino XT Triple crank set, great shape, no pedals ($110)Shimano Brake levers to fit nitto noodle bars, black, great shape ($35)(1) Hutchinson Intensive tubeless folded tire, in box never opened,700x25 ($25)...contact me off list if onterested...ThanksPeter On Feb 19, 2:42 pm, 3wheelin ssubman2...@yahoo.com wrote: I have some old and new parts for sale here, spring cleaning, I guess; contact me off list if your interestedPrices do not include shipping, which will be whatever USPS charges(1) Park Tool ccp-22 Crank Puller ($10)...(1) set Tektro R559 Brakes, never opened still in pkg.($55).(1) sugino XT tripke crank,,,beautiful shape ($110)(1) nitto noodle bars, 46, i think, never opened ($65)...Brake levers tiagra for the noodles, great shape ($35). (1) Brooks b-17, honey, 50 miles on it, brooks creme applied when bought ($70).Brooks honey flyer new in box, ($70).(1) Hutchinson intensive tubeless fold tire, 700 x 25,new in box ($35)...(1) Campagnolo super record Pat.83 rear derailer great shape and (1) Rossi pantographed seat post with Italy's colors in the pantograph..(not sure on pricing, let's talk)everything here is either new or barely used.Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
Thanks, Rob. I'll try to make this one. Daniel YL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I'm guessing those are the Dia Compe. Is that right? Daniel Yorba Linda, CA On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:57:44 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: I like it http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Back to that doggy backpack
Guess i was really lucky that my little 12 lb dog does just fine in my backpack. He's about 3 yrs old, put him in the bag for the first time about a year ago, was worried that he'd cry and put up a fight but he never struggled. It's not like he loves being in there but it's better than leaving him at home by himself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Dyno Headlights at Riv
I remember a post some time ago on the forum where it was commented that none of the staff bikes had dyno-powered lighting systems. I was just checking up on the Rivendell site and it looks like they have two models in stock! http://www.rivbike.com/German-Tail-light-p/ltd-20.htm http://www.rivbike.com/German-Headlight-p/ltd-01.htm The Schmidt seems to be a leftover from a build, only one in stock, but no mention of how many BuschMuller they have hanging around. Do you think this are a permanent addition? I am happy with my Supernova Airstream, but thought y'all might want to know. Cheers, Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: several (big) Toyo Hilsens
Having visited the site, I appreciate the multi-sport, multi-activity scope of the store; I bet it is a great place to drop in. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:58:56 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote: The bikes are not on the site, right? I can't find them, anyway; so it's best just to call the shop. Correct. They are not an 'online' store; it is a genuine, family-run, brick-n-mortar shop. They have a website for getting shop info, but not sales. It's an Orvis fly shop, a bike shop, a camping gear shop. Good store. They do have a Facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/mountainsports?ref=tsfref=ts) , and an Instagram/Tumbler feed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
Not the San Marcos? Looks pretty fine for not too much moolah. And what's the quote about being too poor to buy cheap stuff? As in too poor not to buy nice gear that will last. I went with that logic and sprang for a Hillborne. I was wishing I was in the Bombadil income bracket but the Sam's doing everything I want it to. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Back to that doggy backpack
I gave up and packaged it to return to Timbuk2. [Note that they are less liberal in their return policies than are most vendors -- 30 days unused, essentially.] I'm just going to wrap Nico up in a spare piece of Filson cloth and toe strap him to the rear rack. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM, leeyut1...@gmail.com wrote: Guess i was really lucky that my little 12 lb dog does just fine in my backpack. He's about 3 yrs old, put him in the bag for the first time about a year ago, was worried that he'd cry and put up a fight but he never struggled. It's not like he loves being in there but it's better than leaving him at home by himself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Subject Lines
Thanks Michael - This is a pretty consistent issue and always moving target, so to speak. It's part of the noise in the system and falls to each person to reduce. Those folks who have been here since the beginning know that the February/March period of the year sometimes provides the highest noise in this group. (and _most_ groups, as well, but we can only worry about ourselves, eh?) We have even talked about taking a group vacation where the group is stopped for 2 or 3 weeks. That would be tougher now that this isn't a listserve-based endeavour, but I still don't think it would be such a bad idea. Thread Subjects, Thread Content and Respect for other Members are not abstract concepts. They are not out of our control. The most important tool at our disposal is the Delete key. As Philip wrote so cogently, the best responses to the group at large are those which survive such a simple does this add or enhance the conversation? test. It has always been a tenet of this group to maintain a more narrow, focused range of topics, and to do so with a tone of respect. Simple as that. Granted, I've been bopping around the internet since usenet was, well, useful. I still have reasonably high hopes for this medium, and the quality of insight and assistance on this group always gives me hope. Thanks to everyone for their input, contributions and manners. - Jim / cyclofiend.com / list admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Subject Lines
I don't know, I can't say I really agree with you. I feel the forum is rather pleasant, most of the posts are on topic enough even though thread drift does happen and the subject headings have never really seemed an issue. I just don't see an issue with the amount of moderation happens here. On Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:13:35 AM UTC-6, JL wrote: I dont understand these responses to the o.p. He was just asking for some support in everyone following the rules and gets met with the usual deal with it type feedback? This forum needs some serious moderator help. There are too many off topic posts, too often people dont trim before they post, and now this rudeness? Jl sf,ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Subject Lines
Just to clarify, my comments were more in celebration of everyone's efforts, rather than admonishment. - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] RBW Rides Calendar
The recent thread about the upcoming Ventura SoCal Riv Riders ride finally sparked something in my brain, and I realized that it might make some sense for a general calendar of RBW-Oriented rides which take place. I'm not sure if we tried this before, but with the newer Google Calendar, it has some options which may make it easier. So * https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles or *http://tinyurl.com/rbw-rides* *This can be added to your google calendar (which of course can be integrated with your clever phone or keyboardless computer), or just accessed through the permalink above. Also, I've embedded the calendar on the bottom of my cyclofiend.com blog - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I've deputized a few list members (ones who have posted rides) - well... shanghai'd might be more appropriate - so I'll wait until they confirm back to me before publicly sharing their identities.If you have a RBW-friendly ride you would like to put on, pop me an email and I'll either give you posting access or steer you towards someone who does. It probably makes sense to have a general perspective about such rides, rather than specific rules. Entmoots, Mixed-Terrain, Caffenneurring, Errandonnee, S24O's, etc. Big Organized Rides like Levi's Gran Fondo, Certain Centuries probably don't need to be emphasized here, but if a gang of twin-top-tubed, fendered-and-racked RBW enthusiasts wanted to meet at a specific place and time on one of those rides, it seems like they should be able to give a shout with details. I'll look into having this accessible via the GooGroups page, but at first glance, it was not obvious. Will advise. open to refinements and tweaks, of course! - J / cyclofiend.com / list admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
Remember RB1s were spaced 128mm when they came with a 126mm 7 speed rear end or a 130mm 8 speed rear end. Remember also that the first Shimano 130mm rear hubs had a cone shaped left lock nut that would allow you to pull the rear wheel in, which would pull your frame out to 130 for you. On Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:52:27 AM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote: I had some shops tell me I had to do it and some tell me I didn't. Then I just tried it after all the hubub and my frame was slightly wider than 126. I didn't really have to pull it apart much at all so I just went with it. The must-cold-set folks lose a little credibility with all the steel frames that measure 132.5 or whatever and let you use both MTB and road hubs. Still, if it was a super nice frame and was a tight 126 I'd pay to get it done right. - Ryan On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:17:11 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Hey there sprocket heads, a little off topic but curious if any of you have experience rehabing old frame sets with modern 10 speed groups? In advance thanks. Hugh Sunland, Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:59:05 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Cold setting a steel frame is very simple and easy. A frame builder taught me how to do it in just minutes, and to perfection :) I've had hi-ten and 531 frames cold set, how about 753 or 853 ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
Hey Jim just to be clear I'm not slamming bike stores. And regarding where they make their dough yes just like automotive outfits its the parts and labor where they make their money. I've never run a bike store and can only imagine the number of idiotic questions plus resistance to spending money by some customers. In the case of my LBS I think it's a case of just being busy. I'm happy their busy and doing business. I also agree that doing a resurectio project can and probably is more expensive than buying a bike off the rack but for me the end result will be far more satisfying. Hugh Sunland, Ca On Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:53:40 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I can certainly envision several reasons why your LBS told you that. It could be that the shop employee was inexperienced and doesn't know much about older bikes. Or it could be that the shop doesn't want the liability associated with installing parts that are, technically speaking, incompatible with the frame. Or maybe, they've gone down the rabbit hole of modernizing old bikes in the past, and feel that it isn't worth the trouble. I know that I've had experience with that kind of thing, where some unforeseen and seemingly trivial incompatibility issue causes the project to take 5x longer than quoted and in the end, the solution was a kludge that isn't 100% satisfactory. Or maybe you're the fifth guy this week who wanted to put a modern parts group on an old bike, and they figured that, like the previous four, you'd balk at the high price, and it would be just easier for everybody if they cut to the chase and say no. After all, buying a parts group and wheelset and the labor to install it all can often cost as much as or more than a new bike that has the same parts and wheelset. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
I don't have any photos .. lol !!! The frames I did it on were 531 ST, Columbus SLX and an 83 Stumpjumper. The builder showed me how to do it, without tools. He showed me outside his rural shop, in the grass of all places !!! I asked him where his tools were , he siad he didn't need any as he's done it so many times . He did have a tool to check it though, but he was spot on the first time . Basically you go by feel . If one has no confidence to do this, by all means DO NOT do it !! I had experience in shop doing it with tools, so I already had an idea of how to do it, but not with no tools !! The frame on it's side, gently pull one stay towards you at a time. Check it with a string test or if you have a large straight edge . It's mostly a matter of self confidence, just know you can do it , and you do it :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
Oh, man. I'd LOVE to do this ride. I called Ojai home once upon a time, and rode my 10-speed to Matilija Junior High everyday. It would be awesome to revisit that area again, especially by bike. It's a long way from Seattle, but... hmm... On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:12:01 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote: Save the Date, if you still can, and have the time to make it to our little part of the SoCal playground. April 7 is gelling as the date for this year's Sulphur Mtn loop out of Ventura. I revised the back end of the loop a bit from years past, and you can see this year's route here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2159896 47 miles and 3700 feet of climbing. Start is in Ventura, Up the River Trail to sulphur Mtn where it is a 10 mile dirt climb, with a great drop back into Ojai, then home through a combination of country roads and the river trail. Meet up in Ventura near Garden St and Santa Clara by 9 and hit the road around 9:30. This is a no man left behind sort of ride. We will be taking breaks for re-groups etc. I recommend 3 water bottles as a minimum for the climb up Sulphur. Tires 32mm wide for the dirt, gearing for 8-10% grades and brakes in order for the back side of the mountain are all suggested as well. We will stop at one of the many options for lunch in Ojai to grab something quick to eat and get back on the Road. This is a no host ride and not associated or sponsored by Ocean Air Cycles, just a bunch of like minded folks getting together for a fun ride. Feel free to invite friends and spread the word. The ride is all about having fun and enjoying the local scenery, pace is moderate, by no means a hammer fest, but the climbing will likely test your endurance. I am looking forward to riding with all of you, meeting some new friends and sharing some of the best riding our region has to offer. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] RBW Rides Calendar
Looks good jim I like it. This will make things easier to make things easier to organize the weekend. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] RBW Rides Calendar
Looks good Jim. Thanks! Dan On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: The recent thread about the upcoming Ventura SoCal Riv Riders ride finally sparked something in my brain, and I realized that it might make some sense for a general calendar of RBW-Oriented rides which take place. I'm not sure if we tried this before, but with the newer Google Calendar, it has some options which may make it easier. So * https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles or *http://tinyurl.com/rbw-rides* *This can be added to your google calendar (which of course can be integrated with your clever phone or keyboardless computer), or just accessed through the permalink above. Also, I've embedded the calendar on the bottom of my cyclofiend.com blog - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I've deputized a few list members (ones who have posted rides) - well... shanghai'd might be more appropriate - so I'll wait until they confirm back to me before publicly sharing their identities.If you have a RBW-friendly ride you would like to put on, pop me an email and I'll either give you posting access or steer you towards someone who does. It probably makes sense to have a general perspective about such rides, rather than specific rules. Entmoots, Mixed-Terrain, Caffenneurring, Errandonnee, S24O's, etc. Big Organized Rides like Levi's Gran Fondo, Certain Centuries probably don't need to be emphasized here, but if a gang of twin-top-tubed, fendered-and-racked RBW enthusiasts wanted to meet at a specific place and time on one of those rides, it seems like they should be able to give a shout with details. I'll look into having this accessible via the GooGroups page, but at first glance, it was not obvious. Will advise. open to refinements and tweaks, of course! - J / cyclofiend.com / list admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
I chatted with Keven about it awhile ago. The idea is that it'll be a full-blown touring bike (from what I recall). He seemed to think end of the year was a likely time frame, but I'm sure these things are subject to change. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RBW Rides Calendar
How will it work as far as... do people specifically have to check the calendar to see what rides are coming up? If I post (or email one of the mods to post) a PDX Riv ride for the first Saturday in April, do PDX area Riv-sters who are on the list have to take the additional step of going to the calendar to find out about the ride? Will rides just end up getting duo-posted... to the list and to the calendar? I don't mean this as a complaint at all... just an observation... This seems like one of those situations where a forum format with different categories (Riding Partners, Riv Wrenching, Ride Reports, FS/WTB, etc) could be more user friendly. --Smitty On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:00:10 PM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: The recent thread about the upcoming Ventura SoCal Riv Riders ride finally sparked something in my brain, and I realized that it might make some sense for a general calendar of RBW-Oriented rides which take place. I'm not sure if we tried this before, but with the newer Google Calendar, it has some options which may make it easier. So * https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles or *http://tinyurl.com/rbw-rides* *This can be added to your google calendar (which of course can be integrated with your clever phone or keyboardless computer), or just accessed through the permalink above. Also, I've embedded the calendar on the bottom of my cyclofiend.com blog - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I've deputized a few list members (ones who have posted rides) - well... shanghai'd might be more appropriate - so I'll wait until they confirm back to me before publicly sharing their identities.If you have a RBW-friendly ride you would like to put on, pop me an email and I'll either give you posting access or steer you towards someone who does. It probably makes sense to have a general perspective about such rides, rather than specific rules. Entmoots, Mixed-Terrain, Caffenneurring, Errandonnee, S24O's, etc. Big Organized Rides like Levi's Gran Fondo, Certain Centuries probably don't need to be emphasized here, but if a gang of twin-top-tubed, fendered-and-racked RBW enthusiasts wanted to meet at a specific place and time on one of those rides, it seems like they should be able to give a shout with details. I'll look into having this accessible via the GooGroups page, but at first glance, it was not obvious. Will advise. open to refinements and tweaks, of course! - J / cyclofiend.com / list admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
What kind of budget Rivendell are you keen to buy? On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:58:02 AM UTC-8, murphyjrfk wrote: Does any one know if the budget riv is still being considered planned anything? I hope so. And sooner rather than later. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Dixie Mtn ride of 2013.
The date Mike and I are looking at is March 2nd. Contact one of us off-list to be kept in the loop. --Smitty On Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:07:14 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: Yesterday my friend Ed and I rode Dixie Mtn, a local ride here in Portland that takes in miles of dirt climbs. We did what I consider to be the classic route which goes out to Scappoose and takes in Otto Miller Rd. Dixie Mtn can also be ridden from Washington County. No rain. No mechanicals. Miles of quiet roads. A little exploration. Just a really nice day on the bike. I wasn't on my Hilsen, but I was on my LHT which is very Riv-centric. For Portland Riv listers, Smitty and I have been talking about doing a Riv ride out that way. I'm not sure what the total mileage would be but bring your climbing legs. Here's some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157632818000164/with/8493702690/ mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Dixie Mtn ride of 2013.
You came close to my house, Mike. On Feb 21, 8:07 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday my friend Ed and I rode Dixie Mtn, a local ride here in Portland that takes in miles of dirt climbs. We did what I consider to be the classic route which goes out to Scappoose and takes in Otto Miller Rd. Dixie Mtn can also be ridden from Washington County. No rain. No mechanicals. Miles of quiet roads. A little exploration. Just a really nice day on the bike. I wasn't on my Hilsen, but I was on my LHT which is very Riv-centric. For Portland Riv listers, Smitty and I have been talking about doing a Riv ride out that way. I'm not sure what the total mileage would be but bring your climbing legs. Here's some pictures:http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157632818000164/with... mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
Ventura might a bit far for a weekend, but when I see Bay Area events posted, A small part of me thinks... I'd split gas and driving with somebody to go do that. But it'd have to be your car... 'cause my car is a cargo bike. Smitty in PDX On Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:50:27 PM UTC-8, shawn m. wrote: Oh, man. I'd LOVE to do this ride. I called Ojai home once upon a time, and rode my 10-speed to Matilija Junior High everyday. It would be awesome to revisit that area again, especially by bike. It's a long way from Seattle, but... hmm... On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:12:01 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote: Save the Date, if you still can, and have the time to make it to our little part of the SoCal playground. April 7 is gelling as the date for this year's Sulphur Mtn loop out of Ventura. I revised the back end of the loop a bit from years past, and you can see this year's route here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2159896 47 miles and 3700 feet of climbing. Start is in Ventura, Up the River Trail to sulphur Mtn where it is a 10 mile dirt climb, with a great drop back into Ojai, then home through a combination of country roads and the river trail. Meet up in Ventura near Garden St and Santa Clara by 9 and hit the road around 9:30. This is a no man left behind sort of ride. We will be taking breaks for re-groups etc. I recommend 3 water bottles as a minimum for the climb up Sulphur. Tires 32mm wide for the dirt, gearing for 8-10% grades and brakes in order for the back side of the mountain are all suggested as well. We will stop at one of the many options for lunch in Ojai to grab something quick to eat and get back on the Road. This is a no host ride and not associated or sponsored by Ocean Air Cycles, just a bunch of like minded folks getting together for a fun ride. Feel free to invite friends and spread the word. The ride is all about having fun and enjoying the local scenery, pace is moderate, by no means a hammer fest, but the climbing will likely test your endurance. I am looking forward to riding with all of you, meeting some new friends and sharing some of the best riding our region has to offer. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chicas on Pine Tar Soap
Oh I do love this group! Brian no harm done. I just had to know if I'm an oddball on the soap front. May as well add it to the collection of oddballness categories. Women feel free to chime in--especially lurkers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
I don't use tools. I clamp the frame in the stand, grab the rear triangle with both hands, and give it a good snort. Then I measure spacing and centered-ness and correct as needed. Sorry to anybody who was expecting more sophistication! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
Jim Thill knows, this ain't rocket surgery On Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:34:05 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I don't use tools. I clamp the frame in the stand, grab the rear triangle with both hands, and give it a good snort. Then I measure spacing and centered-ness and correct as needed. Sorry to anybody who was expecting more sophistication! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
Somebody get Smithy a ride down here. He's sorely needed On Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:51:30 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Ventura might a bit far for a weekend, but when I see Bay Area events posted, A small part of me thinks... I'd split gas and driving with somebody to go do that. But it'd have to be your car... 'cause my car is a cargo bike. Smitty in PDX On Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:50:27 PM UTC-8, shawn m. wrote: Oh, man. I'd LOVE to do this ride. I called Ojai home once upon a time, and rode my 10-speed to Matilija Junior High everyday. It would be awesome to revisit that area again, especially by bike. It's a long way from Seattle, but... hmm... On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:12:01 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote: Save the Date, if you still can, and have the time to make it to our little part of the SoCal playground. April 7 is gelling as the date for this year's Sulphur Mtn loop out of Ventura. I revised the back end of the loop a bit from years past, and you can see this year's route here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2159896 47 miles and 3700 feet of climbing. Start is in Ventura, Up the River Trail to sulphur Mtn where it is a 10 mile dirt climb, with a great drop back into Ojai, then home through a combination of country roads and the river trail. Meet up in Ventura near Garden St and Santa Clara by 9 and hit the road around 9:30. This is a no man left behind sort of ride. We will be taking breaks for re-groups etc. I recommend 3 water bottles as a minimum for the climb up Sulphur. Tires 32mm wide for the dirt, gearing for 8-10% grades and brakes in order for the back side of the mountain are all suggested as well. We will stop at one of the many options for lunch in Ojai to grab something quick to eat and get back on the Road. This is a no host ride and not associated or sponsored by Ocean Air Cycles, just a bunch of like minded folks getting together for a fun ride. Feel free to invite friends and spread the word. The ride is all about having fun and enjoying the local scenery, pace is moderate, by no means a hammer fest, but the climbing will likely test your endurance. I am looking forward to riding with all of you, meeting some new friends and sharing some of the best riding our region has to offer. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] RBW Rides Calendar
Hmmm... North Bay Entmoot? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Dixie Mtn ride of 2013.
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:40:52 PM UTC-8, RayO wrote: You came close to my house, Mike. Ray, your house is located on one of my favorite roads, up or down. Every time I ride Dixie Mtn I always wonder why I don't ride it more often. I love this shot from a few years ago. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/5317837022/in/set-72157625635919557 --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Why yes. It was snowing on Mt Ham.
Manny, I think Alastair Humphreys said it best--All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] OT Bunyan Velo
Curse you people and your awesome photography! Very nicely done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] RBW Rides Calendar
Schedule it! Just make sure our peerless leader can make it. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm... North Bay Entmoot? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT Bunyan Velo
Good stuff. You guys obviously put a lot of work into this. The photos are great, sort of a Nat Geo for biking. Jim mentions the Rivendell Atlantis in his piece on bike touring, so there is Rivendell content. Look forward to enjoying the other articles. dougP On Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:13:41 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: Curse you people and your awesome photography! Very nicely done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Carradice
A few years ago I tried to buy a Super C saddlebag and quick release Bagman for commuting use. Carradice is a traditional British manufacturer, producing high quality hand made products but perhaps a bit lacking in modern management techniques. Anyway, for whatever reason they were out of stock of one or the other for months and it took forever to get them. The system works really well for me and was definitely worth the wait. The flip side of traditional manufacturing is this: Last week I fell and managed to break and lose the pin on one side of the Bagman's quick release mechanism. I tried to buy a new Bagman but, big surprise, they were out of stock. So I wrote to Carradice and asked for a replacement pin. The next day I got an email from Margret saying they were in the mail. Thanks Carradice :) Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] LOST Robert! Smallest Wood Sasquatch !
For those that don't know on my last summer tour back from Seattle, I picked up my token todem wood carved Sasquatch from Knot Only A Bear in Oregon. I called him Robert after his maker. http://flic.kr/p/cS3Qws Let me start from the beginning.. So Sean asked if I wanted to go on a bike/hike up to Rock City. I stopped by RivHQ to talk to the weekday folks. Got to talk to Jared and his buddy Benedict about their recent 4 day adventure down the coast. Saw some cool pictures of Jared doing some sweet jumps from his trip. Sean comes by and talks about snow on top of Diablo. Convinces me to ride up with him, Benedict joins us on his new 4 day old blue Hillborne (already looks well loved.) We get past the Junction and see no snow so we decided to ride down taking the dirt along the way. Benedict proves to be a super strong rider, ended up riding up the trail that Sean and me dubbed the famous Jay turn. Legend goes that only Jay Ritchey was the only one able to ride the turn and up the loose gravely without putting the foot down. Well after three tries and a broken front derailler, Benedict kills it. We take Stage road back and this is where I think I lost Robert. It was muddy and wet so a couple of hard drops could have dislogded him out of his zip-tided home. If anyone finds him sent him over to Rivendell HQ, they know how to get a hold of me. Pictures proved that Robert is somewhere along this trail. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE59AG3 -Manny Mt.Diablo has him now... Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?
Did decide on a custom, coupled Java frame. Couple of questions for Ed. 1) I saw in your Speedster farewell poshttp://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/we-bid-farewell-to-our-tandem-companion-the-co-motion-speedster/t that you decided to forgo canti brake studs on the Java. So you guys have been pretty happy with just the two discs, even for touring? Considering the same for the first time, but the Arai sure has been a trusted friend when needed. 2) How do you find the handling given that the Java's front geometry is quite a bit different from Co-Motion's other tandems--and as Jay noted possibly akin to 32mm tires on a Santana? Thanks, Owen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Dixie Mtn ride of 2013.
Hey Smitty - keep me in the loop. It sounds like a great ride. Thx Dennis in PDX On Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:02:24 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: The date Mike and I are looking at is March 2nd. Contact one of us off-list to be kept in the loop. --Smitty On Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:07:14 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: Yesterday my friend Ed and I rode Dixie Mtn, a local ride here in Portland that takes in miles of dirt climbs. We did what I consider to be the classic route which goes out to Scappoose and takes in Otto Miller Rd. Dixie Mtn can also be ridden from Washington County. No rain. No mechanicals. Miles of quiet roads. A little exploration. Just a really nice day on the bike. I wasn't on my Hilsen, but I was on my LHT which is very Riv-centric. For Portland Riv listers, Smitty and I have been talking about doing a Riv ride out that way. I'm not sure what the total mileage would be but bring your climbing legs. Here's some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157632818000164/with/8493702690/ mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Can you fit 130 mm modern group specs with old 126 mm spacing?
I had no issue with indexing and Campy above the bb cable guides. Not sure why that would be an issue anyway. Mark YouTube.com/howtostretch SDCA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] LOST Robert! Smallest Wood Sasquatch !
looks like another awesome ride Manny! great pics dude.-Mike On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: For those that don't know on my last summer tour back from Seattle, I picked up my token todem wood carved Sasquatch from Knot Only A Bear in Oregon. I called him Robert after his maker. http://flic.kr/p/cS3Qws Let me start from the beginning.. So Sean asked if I wanted to go on a bike/hike up to Rock City. I stopped by RivHQ to talk to the weekday folks. Got to talk to Jared and his buddy Benedict about their recent 4 day adventure down the coast. Saw some cool pictures of Jared doing some sweet jumps from his trip. Sean comes by and talks about snow on top of Diablo. Convinces me to ride up with him, Benedict joins us on his new 4 day old blue Hillborne (already looks well loved.) We get past the Junction and see no snow so we decided to ride down taking the dirt along the way. Benedict proves to be a super strong rider, ended up riding up the trail that Sean and me dubbed the famous Jay turn. Legend goes that only Jay Ritchey was the only one able to ride the turn and up the loose gravely without putting the foot down. Well after three tries and a broken front derailler, Benedict kills it. We take Stage road back and this is where I think I lost Robert. It was muddy and wet so a couple of hard drops could have dislogded him out of his zip-tided home. If anyone finds him sent him over to Rivendell HQ, they know how to get a hold of me. Pictures proved that Robert is somewhere along this trail. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE59AG3 -Manny Mt.Diablo has him now... Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RBW Rides Calendar
Andy - Have no idea how this will work. ;^) I think it's reasonably malleable - for example, you can invite specific people (guests) via email, and then mention that the event is in the calendar to open it up. The tinyurl link - http://tinyurl.com/rbw-rides* *- should be permanent. (the google link is kinda clunky, but once you add it to your google calendar, it will appear with your other stuff. This is probably as good a place as any to state the obvious disclaimer - the Calendar and all listings are not associated with Rivendell Bicycle Works. It is only an unofficial listing of events that might be of interest to people in the Rivendell Owner's Bunch here on Google Groups. I'm sure we'll gain some efficiencies as we practice with this. On Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:37:26 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: How will it work as far as... do people specifically have to check the calendar to see what rides are coming up? If I post (or email one of the mods to post) a PDX Riv ride for the first Saturday in April, do PDX area Riv-sters who are on the list have to take the additional step of going to the calendar to find out about the ride? Will rides just end up getting duo-posted... to the list and to the calendar? I don't mean this as a complaint at all... just an observation... This seems like one of those situations where a forum format with different categories (Riding Partners, Riv Wrenching, Ride Reports, FS/WTB, etc) could be more user friendly. --Smitty On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:00:10 PM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: The recent thread about the upcoming Ventura SoCal Riv Riders ride finally sparked something in my brain, and I realized that it might make some sense for a general calendar of RBW-Oriented rides which take place. I'm not sure if we tried this before, but with the newer Google Calendar, it has some options which may make it easier. So * https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=8a37382eq2dn6aq9b9vf0froe0%40group.calendar.google.comctz=America/Los_Angeles or *http://tinyurl.com/rbw-rides* *This can be added to your google calendar (which of course can be integrated with your clever phone or keyboardless computer), or just accessed through the permalink above. Also, I've embedded the calendar on the bottom of my cyclofiend.com blog - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I've deputized a few list members (ones who have posted rides) - well... shanghai'd might be more appropriate - so I'll wait until they confirm back to me before publicly sharing their identities.If you have a RBW-friendly ride you would like to put on, pop me an email and I'll either give you posting access or steer you towards someone who does. It probably makes sense to have a general perspective about such rides, rather than specific rules. Entmoots, Mixed-Terrain, Caffenneurring, Errandonnee, S24O's, etc. Big Organized Rides like Levi's Gran Fondo, Certain Centuries probably don't need to be emphasized here, but if a gang of twin-top-tubed, fendered-and-racked RBW enthusiasts wanted to meet at a specific place and time on one of those rides, it seems like they should be able to give a shout with details. I'll look into having this accessible via the GooGroups page, but at first glance, it was not obvious. Will advise. open to refinements and tweaks, of course! - J / cyclofiend.com / list admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RBW Rides Calendar
Oop - sorry - rizzirattin' frizzifrattin' trackmouse! Anyway, as I was saying - we'll gain efficiencies as we play with this. And Conventions as well. Off the top of my head (at the end of a longish day...): General Location/Type of Ride in Headline (e.g. SF-North Bay Mixed Terrain) Description of Route in Description - The Description field supports a goodly amount of text. In fact, I just played around with a test event for this weekend. The listings even support some mapping. Anyway - I'm sure this will take more form in the coming days. If you want to post some rides, email me at my gmail account (cyclofiend at gmail dot com) for fastest response. - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
