[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[JohnS]

Thank you Marty! This is very cool and would look great on my garage wall.

Happy Holidays,
JohnS


On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 11:13:30 AM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:

> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have 
> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured 
> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge 
> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to 
> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a 
> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the 
> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30 
> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've 
> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible 
> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is 
> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And 
> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first 
> badge ever made and quite rare. 
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout 
> the New Year! 
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar Bag

[dougP]

Eric:

Acorn's Handlebar Bag is darn close:

http://www.acornbags.com/collections/front-bags/products/handlebar-bag

My wife has one & loves it.  

dougP

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:28:14 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I’m looking for a handlebar bag in black canvas that’s more or less like 
> the example in the photos below. Basically, a bag that doesn’t need a front 
> rack or decaleur, and that has two rear-facing pockets and one larger 
> compartment. The bag in the photos is perfect, except for the color.
>
> I you have one that’s taking up space, let me know.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/shares/Yd1a97 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/shares/pvX2hH 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[Liesl]

Thanks Marty!

And John I am so sorry for your loss. The passing of a beloved dog leaves such 
an empty spot in one's heart and home. I have a saluki bike and live with big 
beloved standard poodles. I'll give 'em all a little extra holiday cheer and 
think of you and Esprit.

Liesl

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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[RobbeR49]

Really cool! I'd have to say the Legolas one is my favorite, just something 
about that shield shape.

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 11:13:30 AM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have 
> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured 
> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge 
> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to 
> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a 
> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the 
> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30 
> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've 
> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible 
> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is 
> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And 
> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first 
> badge ever made and quite rare. 
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout 
> the New Year! 
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar Bag

[Ron Mc]

just throwing out another option, the Ostrich Hook Rack K with either F-516 
or F530 bags  
http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/other-1-2/ostrich-hook-rack-k.html

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar Bag

[Zach Duval]

There'should one currently on eBay?

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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[Wayne Naha]

Thank you, Marty!  Happy Holidays!

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>
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout 
> the New Year! 
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[Montclair BobbyB]

Thanks, Marty!!!  I framed your first badge collection... It looks great.  
Merry Christmas to all. 

BB

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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[Deacon Patrick]

Amazing to see the update! Thank you. Merry Christmastide!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[Lungimsam]

What are those lights on the rim of the Sam?

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Re: [RBW] Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[Jeff Lesperance]

I have a 60cm double-TT Sam and a 58cm AHH. At the moment, they're both
setup fairly similarly: 9-speed Shimano mountain drivetrain, bar-end
shifters, 46cm Nitto Noodle handlebars, Compass tires (38mm Barlow Pass for
Sam, 42mm Babyshow Pass for Homer) and Nitto Tallux stems (80mm for Sam,
100mm for Homer, I think). I have more miles on Sam than Homer, and Sam's
miles are much more diverse, including daily semi-urban commuting, loaded
touring and trail/offroad rides. Homer's commuted a few times, been on a
few day-long rides and one dirt trail (C canal) s24o.

As setup, I think Sam has a bit more reach than Homer, and generally, I
think I tend to setup my bars with more reach than most folks my height do,
thanks to some ape-length arms. Homer generally feels a bit more spritely
and nimble. Sam wants to track straight and true. Both are tremendously
comfortable rides. Both came to me used with a fair amount of beausage, so
I wouldn't hesitate to put them through their paces in any type of riding
situation, but I don't expect I'd steer toward using Homer for fully loaded
touring duties, though I'll run a few handling and packing experiments
through winter and spring to see how and how much luggage he prefers to
carry. Sam's a taller bike - I have very little wiggle room straddling the
top tube, and less stem sticking up above the headset - standover doesn't
impact the ride, but stem height might a bit in terms of flexibility.



-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD
​

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Anyone had a Homer plus one of the others (or all three) and ridden them
> with similar builds?
>
> How did the rides compare?
>
> Just curious if I could tell the diff myself between them if I was
> blindfolded.
>
> I have a blue Sam and a Bleriot, but never ridden a Homer.
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Re: [RBW] Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[Liesl]

I have a 50 saluki (the original 650b homer) and a 51 proto bleriot . I rode 
both for a number of years with original mustache bars and now both have 
boscoes. Bleriot is set up as a single with a tiny titanium rack on the back; 
saluki is a 3x8 with mini / marks nittos front and back. Similar 38 tires on 
both. They handle the same in what I can perceive. The single is and feels 
lighter.

As I recall, according to grant, the differences between the bleriot and the 
saluki/homer are about fancy details that don't affect ride, e.g. double 
tapered seat tubes and fancy lugs. And bleriot a we're made in Taiwan whereas 
Salukis we're Toyo.

Bleriots were a heckava deal.

Yours, liesl

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Re: [RBW] Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[Jeff Lesperance]

Picture taken with flash - not lights, they're reflective stickers. Some
"spokees" stickers from funreflector.com, and some other shapes from
elsewhere. Those are my commuting wheels and pending time of year, I'm
commuting in the dark in the morning, evening, or both, so I like to add a
fair amount of reflective stuff and lights to the bike/myself.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> What are those lights on the rim of the Sam?
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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Zach Duval]

My Sam is recent, purchased in May. Blue 51.

The geo chart for my Sam gives 53 as the space between chainstay crimps. With 
Surly Knards, I see at least 3-4mm on either side, maybe more.

The Maxxis Pace supposedly* fits a bit smaller than listed width, at least on 
something like my 19mm inner-width rims.

My goal is to find the perfect summer trail tire. I can do about 20 miles, 
mostly dirt and gravel roads, to a network of about 30 miles of fantastic 
singletrack around Whitefish, MT, as well as some nearby sections of the Great 
Divide, but I'don't like to have thebiggest tires I can for it.

*This is, of course, iffy speculation 

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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[David Person]

This is really cool.  Thank you.

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 8:13:30 AM UTC-8, MartyG wrote:
>
> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have 
> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured 
> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge 
> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to 
> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a 
> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the 
> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30 
> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've 
> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible 
> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is 
> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And 
> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first 
> badge ever made and quite rare. 
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout 
> the New Year! 
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I currently have three Rivs - all set up differently, so not 
apples-to-apples, etc. But my Homer, set up for mixed surface riding, 
mustachioed and fenderless, is more "sprightly" than my Sam, set up as my 
tourer with bells and whistles, and my Atlantis, set up for "country day 
rides" and good-weather overnighters. That said, like Philip mentions: 
Cadillac ride / sports car, depending on what you wish. I don't think I 
would seriously load my Homer down.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Anyone had a Homer plus one of the others (or all three) and ridden them 
> with similar builds?
>
> How did the rides compare?
>
> Just curious if I could tell the diff myself between them if I was 
> blindfolded.
>
> I have a blue Sam and a Bleriot, but never ridden a Homer.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Proto Hunqapillar / Appalossa 650B 52 CM

[Richard Rios]

Sorry forgot to add that would include headset, bottom bracket, and seat 
post.

Thanks,
Richard
909910-7424

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>
> Anyone interested in just the frame I am asking $1100. Plus shipping.  If 
> I find a buyer for frame parts kit would come up as well, hit me up we can 
> talk about a price.  Might make a great mountain build for one of those 
> sparkly new Clem Smith frames floating around out there.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 7:42:31 PM UTC-8, Chad wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for providing the info.  It's a bit too big for me, but what an 
>> awesome bike!  Hopefully it will find a good home.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Proto Hunqapillar / Appalossa 650B 52 CM

[Richard Rios]

Anyone interested in just the frame I am asking $1100. Plus shipping.  If I 
find a buyer for frame parts kit would come up as well, hit me up we can 
talk about a price.  Might make a great mountain build for one of those 
sparkly new Clem Smith frames floating around out there.

Thanks,
Richard

On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 7:42:31 PM UTC-8, Chad wrote:
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> Thanks for providing the info.  It's a bit too big for me, but what an 
> awesome bike!  Hopefully it will find a good home.

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[RBW] Re: Joe on the BLUG

[David Person]

I'd like to see Riv put on their site spec drawings of the Joe for each 
size, like they did for the Sam Hillborne.

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Justin August]

Phillip-
Can you fit fenders with SBHills?

-J

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Philip Kim]

Justin,

I don't think you can unless you got creative. I can do a modified front fender 
as Paul gives about 1/2 in of vertical clearance. The Tektro 559 I have on the 
back will be harder with about less than 1/4 in of vertical clearance. I will 
most likely try to cut the rear fender up, and try to attach it to the fender 
mount on the top seat stay, so the fender doesn't go under the brakes. Then use 
the L bracket to finish off from the brake to the chainstay. Both front and 
rear will require Sheldon fender nuts I have on hand. Will do it next week when 
I get back from the holidays. I'll probably just post a Cheviot build report 
then too.

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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[John Price]

Hi Marty,

Thanks for posting that.  I don't always like all of Rivendell's bikes but 
they sure know how to make the neatest head badges.

As for the Saluki badges, my Esprit who was the model that Jon G and I used 
for the Saluki badge (the first, not those weird ones with the "old, sad 
eyed" Salukis - if they could even be called Salukis) passed away 
yesterday.  She led a grand life and made it 15 years old.  I think I'll 
have to take my Saluki bike out for a ride this weekend in honour of her.

Happy Holidays and thanks again,

John Price

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:13:30 AM UTC-7, MartyG wrote:
>
> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have 
> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured 
> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge 
> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to 
> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a 
> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the 
> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30 
> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've 
> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible 
> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is 
> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And 
> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first 
> badge ever made and quite rare. 
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout 
> the New Year! 
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

['joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

thanks for posting this. i always thought my favorite was the rambouillet 
badge, but now i think the first saluki badge is the best!
thanks
joe

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 11:13:30 AM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have 
> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured 
> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge 
> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to 
> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a 
> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the 
> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30 
> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've 
> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible 
> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is 
> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And 
> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first 
> badge ever made and quite rare. 
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout 
> the New Year! 
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Handlebar Bag

[Eric Norris]

I’m looking for a handlebar bag in black canvas that’s more or less like the 
example in the photos below. Basically, a bag that doesn’t need a front rack or 
decaleur, and that has two rear-facing pockets and one larger compartment. The 
bag in the photos is perfect, except for the color.

I you have one that’s taking up space, let me know.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/shares/Yd1a97 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/shares/pvX2hH 

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[RBW] Re: FS Proto Hunqapillar / Appalossa 650B 52 CM

[Zach Duval]

If you wind up ready to part out individual pieces, I'd be interested in those 
bars.

Good luck to ya!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Small Trunksack Olive

[Marc Irwin]

BUMP!   Anybody interested at $50?

On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 8:42:07 AM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> Well used with plenty of use left (free beausage).  The only wear on this 
> is cosmetic.  $60 includes priority shipping to lower 48.
>
>
>
> Marc
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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Philip Kim]

zach, let me take some pictures to make sure. but the front with paul 
racers probably has about 3mm or so on each side. probably 2mm on each side 
for tektro 559s.

fenders will definitely not fit  unless you modified them somehow or used 
raceblade types.

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 11:45:13 AM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:
>
> Philip,
> How much room would you say you have with those Switchbacks?
>
> Surlyprof,
> I'd love if they made 650B Smart Sam's in 45. As it is, I would prefer 
> something just a bit bigger than the R'n'Rs, if I can.
>

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[ted]

The charts may be a bit suspect as clearance for some models has changed 
over time, but according to the RBW geometry charts the Cheviot's max tire 
is 5mm larger than the Sam's. Though the brakes may be the same the 
tightest spot for tire clearance is often the chainstays and I think the 
Cheviot has longer stays than the current Sam.

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:21:02 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Zach, switched my Hillborne and got a Cheviot which i believe have the 
> same clearances. Currently riding Switchback Hills and it fits. The Paul 
> racer up front has a little more than the Tektro 559's I have in the back. 
>
> Would also like to know if something like Smart Sams can fit.Otherwise, I 
> guess I'll have to go to RnRs.
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 8:20:39 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:
>>
>> Bored on Amtrack halfway across NoDakistan (sans bike), these are the 
>> sorts of thoughts that come to mind.
>>
>> Switchback Hills I think are a definite possibility, but how about a 
>> knobby, say Maxxis Paces?
>>
>> Has anyone tried either? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Philip Kim]

I can't remember the tire clearance the Sam frame had. But both the Sam and 
Cheviot tire clearance is limited by the brakes.

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:35:33 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> The charts may be a bit suspect as clearance for some models has changed 
> over time, but according to the RBW geometry charts the Cheviot's max tire 
> is 5mm larger than the Sam's. Though the brakes may be the same the 
> tightest spot for tire clearance is often the chainstays and I think the 
> Cheviot has longer stays than the current Sam.
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:21:02 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> Zach, switched my Hillborne and got a Cheviot which i believe have the 
>> same clearances. Currently riding Switchback Hills and it fits. The Paul 
>> racer up front has a little more than the Tektro 559's I have in the back. 
>>
>> Would also like to know if something like Smart Sams can fit.Otherwise, I 
>> guess I'll have to go to RnRs.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 8:20:39 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:
>>>
>>> Bored on Amtrack halfway across NoDakistan (sans bike), these are the 
>>> sorts of thoughts that come to mind.
>>>
>>> Switchback Hills I think are a definite possibility, but how about a 
>>> knobby, say Maxxis Paces?
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried either? 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[ted]

If you insist, but I just looked at my wife's Sam with FattyRumpkins and it 
sure looks like there is more space between the rear tire and the brake 
than there is between the tire and the chainstays.

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:48:45 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> I can't remember the tire clearance the Sam frame had. But both the Sam 
> and Cheviot tire clearance is limited by the brakes.
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:35:33 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>>
>> The charts may be a bit suspect as clearance for some models has changed 
>> over time, but according to the RBW geometry charts the Cheviot's max tire 
>> is 5mm larger than the Sam's. Though the brakes may be the same the 
>> tightest spot for tire clearance is often the chainstays and I think the 
>> Cheviot has longer stays than the current Sam.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:21:02 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>>>
>>> Zach, switched my Hillborne and got a Cheviot which i believe have the 
>>> same clearances. Currently riding Switchback Hills and it fits. The Paul 
>>> racer up front has a little more than the Tektro 559's I have in the back. 
>>>
>>> Would also like to know if something like Smart Sams can fit.Otherwise, 
>>> I guess I'll have to go to RnRs.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 8:20:39 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:

 Bored on Amtrack halfway across NoDakistan (sans bike), these are the 
 sorts of thoughts that come to mind.

 Switchback Hills I think are a definite possibility, but how about a 
 knobby, say Maxxis Paces?

 Has anyone tried either? 



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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[Tony DeFilippo]

Fantastic gift, you really do a beautiful job putting these together. Thank 
you and Happy Holidays!

Tony

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Philip Kim]

Ted, interesting. 

I just recently had the newest Sam sage green with Paul Racers. Able to fit 
Rock N Roads with SKS fenders in the rear no problem. Had to modify the 
front fender to fit. Of course, I don't have it anymore and swapped to 
Cheviot and San Marcos.

-Phil

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:08:02 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> If you insist, but I just looked at my wife's Sam with FattyRumpkins and 
> it sure looks like there is more space between the rear tire and the brake 
> than there is between the tire and the chainstays.
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:48:45 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> I can't remember the tire clearance the Sam frame had. But both the Sam 
>> and Cheviot tire clearance is limited by the brakes.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:35:33 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>>>
>>> The charts may be a bit suspect as clearance for some models has changed 
>>> over time, but according to the RBW geometry charts the Cheviot's max tire 
>>> is 5mm larger than the Sam's. Though the brakes may be the same the 
>>> tightest spot for tire clearance is often the chainstays and I think the 
>>> Cheviot has longer stays than the current Sam.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:21:02 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:

 Zach, switched my Hillborne and got a Cheviot which i believe have the 
 same clearances. Currently riding Switchback Hills and it fits. The Paul 
 racer up front has a little more than the Tektro 559's I have in the back. 

 Would also like to know if something like Smart Sams can fit.Otherwise, 
 I guess I'll have to go to RnRs.

 On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 8:20:39 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:
>
> Bored on Amtrack halfway across NoDakistan (sans bike), these are the 
> sorts of thoughts that come to mind.
>
> Switchback Hills I think are a definite possibility, but how about a 
> knobby, say Maxxis Paces?
>
> Has anyone tried either? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[ted]

Phil,

Interesting indeed. My wife's Sam is a 52, I take it yours was from after 
the size change? Perhaps some minor changes were made that increased the 
clearance. If the clearance has changed, the vintage of the Sam that Zach 
is thinking of may be significant.

Regards
Ted

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 10:13:30 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Ted, interesting. 
>
> I just recently had the newest Sam sage green with Paul Racers. Able to 
> fit Rock N Roads with SKS fenders in the rear no problem. Had to modify the 
> front fender to fit. Of course, I don't have it anymore and swapped to 
> Cheviot and San Marcos.
>
> -Phil
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 1:08:02 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>>
>> If you insist, but I just looked at my wife's Sam with FattyRumpkins and 
>> it sure looks like there is more space between the rear tire and the brake 
>> than there is between the tire and the chainstays.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:48:45 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't remember the tire clearance the Sam frame had. But both the Sam 
>>> and Cheviot tire clearance is limited by the brakes.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 12:35:33 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:

 The charts may be a bit suspect as clearance for some models has 
 changed over time, but according to the RBW geometry charts the Cheviot's 
 max tire is 5mm larger than the Sam's. Though the brakes may be the same 
 the tightest spot for tire clearance is often the chainstays and I think 
 the Cheviot has longer stays than the current Sam.

 On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:21:02 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Zach, switched my Hillborne and got a Cheviot which i believe have the 
> same clearances. Currently riding Switchback Hills and it fits. The Paul 
> racer up front has a little more than the Tektro 559's I have in the 
> back. 
>
> Would also like to know if something like Smart Sams can 
> fit.Otherwise, I guess I'll have to go to RnRs.
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 8:20:39 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:
>>
>> Bored on Amtrack halfway across NoDakistan (sans bike), these are the 
>> sorts of thoughts that come to mind.
>>
>> Switchback Hills I think are a definite possibility, but how about a 
>> knobby, say Maxxis Paces?
>>
>> Has anyone tried either? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Zach Duval]

Philip,
How much room would you say you have with those Switchbacks?

Surlyprof,
I'd love if they made 650B Smart Sam's in 45. As it is, I would prefer 
something just a bit bigger than the R'n'Rs, if I can.

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[RBW] My Gift to the Bunch

[WETH]

Fantastic! What a great gift.
With appreciation,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: do these bars look too high?

[Pete Porvaz]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5836/23051338044_2cd564a8af_z.jpg

here is a medium sized version of the same photo. I was on the Olav Sabo 
bike bridge here in Minneapolis Minnesota on one of my last rides mid 
December 2015. I don't ride my Atlantis in the wintertime but the balmy 
weather made me go for a 22 mile loop around the greenway and home. The 
bars are feeling good to me at that height. I'll do more riding in March 
next year and probably during the winter add some padding on the tops of 
the drop bars where I spend 98% of my riding . In the winter I commute 6 
miles on a "sacrificial" bike with studded tires (going on 10 years now- 
gotta love that lugged steel!) and a 55" fixed gear.
Thanks to all who replied. I especially like the photos from weth and 
clayton. 
Best wishes to all on this great forum for a merry Christmas and a blessed 
new year!
Pete

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[RBW] Re: do these bars look too high?

[WETH]

Pete,
That is a beautiful bike and cool bridge.  I am glad to learn you were able to 
enjoy this balmy December weather.  Today is 70 degrees with 87% humidity in 
suburban Washington DC with intermittent rain.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Long shot WTB -- 52cm blue Clementine

[Abcyclehank]

Anyone still looking for a 52cm blue frame set I may be able to help you out if 
Rivelo has a full bike left for me.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Tried and liked in 2015, and a request

[cyclotourist]

Hey guys, we can all get along, carnivores, herbivores, omnivores, because
everyone can use the Instant Pot: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FLYWNYQ

Crock pot, pressure cooker, rice cooker, steamer, yogurt maker (haven't
tried that). Totally does it all, as advertised. Perfect Boxing Day gift
for yourself or someone that cooks where you live.

Happy Saturnalia, everyone!



On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Steve and Amit: both good! Thanks. Planning to try them both.
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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice!!!   Thanks for putting this together and posting!



On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 10:13:30 AM UTC-6, MartyG wrote:
>
> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have 
> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured 
> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge 
> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to 
> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a 
> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the 
> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30 
> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've 
> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible 
> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is 
> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And 
> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first 
> badge ever made and quite rare. 
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout 
> the New Year! 
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Tried and liked in 2015, and a request

[Philip Kim]

i need this

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 11:09:56 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Hey guys, we can all get along, carnivores, herbivores, omnivores, because 
> everyone can use the Instant Pot: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FLYWNYQ
>
> Crock pot, pressure cooker, rice cooker, steamer, yogurt maker (haven't 
> tried that). Totally does it all, as advertised. Perfect Boxing Day gift 
> for yourself or someone that cooks where you live.
>
> Happy Saturnalia, everyone!
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Steve and Amit: both good! Thanks. Planning to try them both.
>>
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[RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

How nice of you Marty! Thank you!
Merry Christmas and wish you and your family and of course all the 
Rivendell Family peace,  H
happiness, and good health in the coming year.
Jon

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:13:30 AM UTC-7, MartyG wrote:

> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have 
> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured 
> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge 
> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to 
> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a 
> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the 
> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30 
> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've 
> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible 
> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is 
> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And 
> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first 
> badge ever made and quite rare. 
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout 
> the New Year! 
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] My Gift to the Bunch

[MartyG]

I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have 
bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured 
conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge 
posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to 
add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a 
poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the 
following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30 
at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've 
had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible 
variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is 
represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And 
FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first 
badge ever made and quite rare. 

Here's the link to the downloadable version:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/

So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout the 
New Year! 

Marty



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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Tried and liked in 2015, and a request

[cyclotourist]

Yes you do! It's great!

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Philip Kim  wrote:

> i need this
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 11:09:56 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys, we can all get along, carnivores, herbivores, omnivores,
>> because everyone can use the Instant Pot:
>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FLYWNYQ
>>
>> Crock pot, pressure cooker, rice cooker, steamer, yogurt maker (haven't
>> tried that). Totally does it all, as advertised. Perfect Boxing Day gift
>> for yourself or someone that cooks where you live.
>>
>> Happy Saturnalia, everyone!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Steve and Amit: both good! Thanks. Planning to try them both.
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Re: [RBW] My Gift to the Bunch

[Eric Daume]

Thanks for putting this together Marty!

Hard to beat that Hunq badge... and why is the Clem badge so plain?

Eric

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:13 AM, MartyG  wrote:

> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have
> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured
> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge
> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to
> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a
> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the
> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30
> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've
> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible
> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is
> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And
> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first
> badge ever made and quite rare.
>
> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>
> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout
> the New Year!
>
> Marty
>
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Gift to the Bunch

[cyclotourist]

So cool, Marty!
Thanks!

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado <
row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How nice of you Marty! Thank you!
> Merry Christmas and wish you and your family and of course all the
> Rivendell Family peace,  H
> happiness, and good health in the coming year.
> Jon
>
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 9:13:30 AM UTC-7, MartyG wrote:
>
>> I don't post a lot, but I enjoy stopping by from time to time. I have
>> bought and sold things here, and am thankful for the good-natured
>> conversation and inspiration. You may recall I've done a few head-badge
>> posters in the past, and it occurred to me that an update was in order to
>> add a model or two that has come along since the last time I posted a
>> poster. (Early 2014 as I recall.) You can download a full-resolution of the
>> following yourself, and have it printed if you like. It's sized big: 24X30
>> at 300dpi. You can always select a smaller file. If you want to print, I've
>> had good luck at Walgreens or CVS. It does not include every possible
>> variation of badge that Rivendell made over the years, but every model is
>> represented in the order it was introduced to the best of my knowledge. And
>> FYI, that first one in the upper left corner is made of pewter - the first
>> badge ever made and quite rare.
>>
>> Here's the link to the downloadable version:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/23838339752/in/dateposted/
>>
>> So Happy Holidays from Pennsylvania and enjoy the ride ahead throughout
>> the New Year!
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> 
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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Surlyprof]

During the summer I change the commuter wheels on the canti-Hillborne over 
to 45 Smart Sams.  They are a blast to ride.  Bouncy!  A couple of caveats: 
(1) no fenders... that's probably obvious and (2) they rub on the Pletscher 
double kickstand when I lean hard on the pedals.  There was enough 
clearance in the frame.  The rubbing was only caused by the kickstand.  I 
was also surprised that they felt pretty supple and rode smoothly on roads. 
 I had heard that RnRs gave a little vibration on roads.

John

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 5:21:02 AM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Zach, switched my Hillborne and got a Cheviot which i believe have the 
> same clearances. Currently riding Switchback Hills and it fits. The Paul 
> racer up front has a little more than the Tektro 559's I have in the back. 
>
> Would also like to know if something like Smart Sams can fit.Otherwise, I 
> guess I'll have to go to RnRs.
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 8:20:39 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:
>>
>> Bored on Amtrack halfway across NoDakistan (sans bike), these are the 
>> sorts of thoughts that come to mind.
>>
>> Switchback Hills I think are a definite possibility, but how about a 
>> knobby, say Maxxis Paces?
>>
>> Has anyone tried either? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: do these bars look too high?

[Garth]

 35 degrees David 

On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 10:03:07 PM UTC-5, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> Does anybody know what angle the Nitto Dirt Drops are? I was trying to use 
> Alex's Stem comparison tool but didn't know the angle to put in.
>
> http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 2:30:32 PM UTC-5, Pete Porvaz wrote:
>>
>> https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5836/23051338044_2cd564a8af_n.jpg 
>>
>> I'm really liking my newly mounted dirt drop stem. It's not a simple 
>> change but for me was so worth it. Next up something to wrap on the tops 
>> where I do most of my riding.
>> Thought about a different bar but I just like the noodle bar. It does 
>> look waay up there!
>> Pete
>>
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[RBW] Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You're probably more talented than me but if I were blindfolded I think I would 
crash on any of them :) 

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[RBW] Re: 650BX1.95 on a side-pull Sam?

[Philip Kim]

Zach, switched my Hillborne and got a Cheviot which i believe have the same 
clearances. Currently riding Switchback Hills and it fits. The Paul racer 
up front has a little more than the Tektro 559's I have in the back. 

Would also like to know if something like Smart Sams can fit.Otherwise, I 
guess I'll have to go to RnRs.

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>
> Bored on Amtrack halfway across NoDakistan (sans bike), these are the 
> sorts of thoughts that come to mind.
>
> Switchback Hills I think are a definite possibility, but how about a 
> knobby, say Maxxis Paces?
>
> Has anyone tried either? 
>
>

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[RBW] Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[Lungimsam]

Anyone had a Homer plus one of the others (or all three) and ridden them 
with similar builds?

How did the rides compare?

Just curious if I could tell the diff myself between them if I was 
blindfolded.

I have a blue Sam and a Bleriot, but never ridden a Homer.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/24/2015 08:55 AM, Dave Johnston wrote:
I can hardly tell the difference between a Bleriot and a Rambouillet 
except that the 38mm tires on the Bleriot are more plush and it 
doesn't have toe overlap so the Bleriot gets ridden more.


Not an exact correspondence, but very close: I had a Rambouillet and a 
Saluki.  They were /very/ different.  The difference between 28mm and 
38-42mm tires is very great.



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[RBW] Re: Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[Dave Johnston]

Don't forget the San Marcos. My Girlfriend has one of those that I built up 
and I have a Bleriot. It is the "road iest" of the bunch, butI think they 
are pretty similar. I have drops on the Bleriot and she has the Dove Bar so 
its hard to make a comparison. I can hardly tell the difference between a 
Bleriot and a Rambouillet except that the 38mm tires on the Bleriot are 
more plush and it doesn't have toe overlap so the Bleriot gets ridden more.

Geometry is pretty similar across the range but as far as tubing goes from 
lightest to heaviest and also from narrowest tire to largest tire capacity 
I think it goes like this.
San Marcos
Bleriot
A Homer
Sam Hillborne

On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Anyone had a Homer plus one of the others (or all three) and ridden them 
> with similar builds?
>
> How did the rides compare?
>
> Just curious if I could tell the diff myself between them if I was 
> blindfolded.
>
> I have a blue Sam and a Bleriot, but never ridden a Homer.
>

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[RBW] Re: Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[Philip Kim]

If I'm not mistaken, I thought I read somewhere that the Homer has slightly 
thicker tubing than the Bleriot to handle some loads. And Sam is thicker 
tubing than the Homer to handle even a bit more load.


I second Dave, I have a Soma San Marcos and it is awesome to ride. I don't 
know where it ranks with the Bleriot or the Homer, but compared to the Sam 
I had before, it's a bit more "road bike", and has slightly thinner tubing. 
The Sam was like riding a Cadillac, and the Soma San Marcos is like riding 
a sportier compact car like a Suburu Impreza. Still functional, but 
slightly sporty and not as luxurious. 

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[RBW] Re: Long shot WTB -- 52cm blue Clementine

[John A. Bennett]

Thanks, Tom! Thanks, Leah! Thanks, David! 

Remaining Rivelo Clem/Clementine inventory: A 52cm Clementine in Aqua; a 52 
Clem in the darker "French" blue, and a grey 59cm Clem.  

All the best from Portland, Oregon,

John & Darby

On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
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> Very long shot, I know, but….Through a confluence of unfortunate events, 
> my wife's Christmas gift Clementine had to get coopted for a different 
> Christmas gift recipient.  As she is a straight stand-up stud, she is not 
> complaining about this (in fact, she VOLUNTEERED her frame to solve the 
> other problem – greater love hath no woman, and all that….), but I want to 
> get her a replacement as quickly as possible.  Did anyone by chance order a 
> 52 cm blue Clementine that you've decided isn't what you need?  Frameset 
> only, complete bike, I don't care, and I have a powerful incentive to make 
> it worth your while.  Let me know.  Other Riv mixtes won't do it – she 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Homer vs. Sam vs. Bleriot

[David Johnston]

When I said I could hardly tell the difference between the Ram and
Bleriot I meant in performance and general handling. The 38mm tires
(pari-moto) vs 28-33.3mm are definitely a plus for their plushness.

On 12/24/15, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On 12/24/2015 08:55 AM, Dave Johnston wrote:
>> I can hardly tell the difference between a Bleriot and a Rambouillet
>> except that the 38mm tires on the Bleriot are more plush and it
>> doesn't have toe overlap so the Bleriot gets ridden more.
>
> Not an exact correspondence, but very close: I had a Rambouillet and a
> Saluki.  They were /very/ different.  The difference between 28mm and
> 38-42mm tires is very great.
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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Tried and liked in 2015, and a request

[Patrick Moore]

Steve and Amit: both good! Thanks. Planning to try them both.

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