date:20231002

Jeremy,

You make a good point about the geometric and pneumatic trail and the
possibility that Grant designed his frames around a knobbier, more general
purpose, tire thus building the frames with more geometric trail. I’d love
to ask Grant that question to know if it was happy coincidence that they
ended up that way or if the design choice was really that intentional.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 4:22 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:

> On my Rivendells I've noticed that, irrespective of the surface I'm riding
> on, I actually prefer the handling with larger knobby tires than with
> larger slick tires. This is true on both my Clem H (2016, first-gen) with
> 45-55mm tires and my Rambouillet (green, ~2006 as far as I can tell) with
> 36-38mm tires. My explanation for this is that Grant tends to design bikes
> with larger geometric trail. When you add in the pneumatic trail of larger
> slick tires, the whole thing can feel harder to turn. Knobby tires give you
> the same shock absorption while putting less rubber on the pavement, thus
> reducing the pneumatic trail. Jan Heine has noted this effect himself when
> comparing knobby and slick versions of his tires.
>
> My Rambouillet current wears RH (actually Compass, they're a few years
> old) Steilacoom 700x38 knobbies. My Clem H has 29x2.2 Specialized Fast
> Traks with the "Control" casing, which is an XC-oriented MTB tire with
> relatively minimal knobs that rolls well on pavement. In my experience
> there is no free lunch when it comes to supple casings and flats. Certainly
> the ride is better with things like the RH standard casing but my rate of
> flatting from glass and thorns goes up. Sealant and tubeless haven't been
> the solution, in my experience, and I run both of my Rivendells with
> tubes.
>
> Since Patrick was also mentioning them I will say that I've used both the
> 700x42 and 700x38 versions of the Soma Supple Vitesse EX on my Long Haul
> Trucker, which seems to handle better with large slicks than my Rivendells.
> Those are good tires with an acceptable flat rate for me. I also tried the
> 700x38 SL version on my Rambouillet and found that not only did I not like
> the handling, but the flat rate was excessive for me. Note that the only
> difference between the EX and SL Supple Vitesses is the thickness of the
> tread, with the EX having thicker treads. Unlike RH and other brands there
> is no difference in the casing between the lightweight and longer wearing
> versions. I believe that the Shikiro is the same tread as the Supple
> Vitesse EX with a heavier duty casing.
>
> Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 8:26:17 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want
>> to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit
>> absorbed with that thought.
>>
>> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall
>> in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build
>> and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size,
>> with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires
>> sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim
>> I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>>
>> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile
>> and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range
>> to start.
>>
>> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who
>> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and
>> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build
>> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance”
>> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the
>> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the
>> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>>
>> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and
>> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>>
>> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked.
>> If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like
>> (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>>
>> — Ted
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

I’m not sure I’d say meager but I am curious to see what a skinnier tire on
an Appa made to house some chunky tires would look like with something a
bit smaller. Oddly, I searched around before posting the question here and
found examples at the extreme ends with some wearing 30-35mm tires and
others with the “typical” 50-55s but a surprising lack of examples fitted
with tires in the 44-48mm range which really just has me wondering why that
was.

Regarding the Gravel Kings I had the 32mm SS tires on my road bike for a
time and they did feel nice. My only complaint about them is the same as
with the smooth RH tires; they get little pinhole punctures. The SKs look
nice, and I’ve heard good things. Main issue in the past had been
availability. They were hard to find the last few years, maybe that’s
changed now that supply chains have normalized a bit and the COVID bike
boom has slowed.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:46 PM DavidP  wrote:

> My Platypus has Gravel King SK 700x50s under VO 63mm fenders. On
> Cliffhanger rims the tires measure a true 2". I've found the Gravel King
> SKs to be surprisingly good on pavement - comparable to RH endurance casing
> knobbies - and to have plenty of traction for dirt trails. It sounds like
> you are wanting a more road oriented tire/width, maybe the Gravel King SS
> in 700x43 would suit. If you're worried about a 42-48mm tire looking too
> meager, throw some fenders on - they'll hide the skinny tire, fill the
> space, and keep you and the bike dry and clean.
>
> My (non-Riv) rough stuff road bike has 650x48s; a smooth Paris Moto rear
> and a knobby RH Juniper Ridge up front. The front knobby has kept traction
> through slick mud patches that caused the rear to slide a bit. I quite like
> the combination (it at least feels a bit more optimized in my mind)
> compared to knobby front and back. This bike is setup tubeless in the back
> to help with punctures.
>
> -Dave
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-02 Thread Russell Duncan

Bloody hell, reasonably priced gloves

On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:18:40 PM UTC-6 Russell Duncan wrote:

> I use the treasonably priced TEMRES 282-02 gloves for a variety of winter 
> activities, including riding ATVs and snowmobiles. Good shoulder season 
> gloves by themselves or add a wool liner. Great gloves for snow shoveling. 
> For that shoulder season time of the year, I drop down a size. For colder 
> weather, I use Size XL with a liner.
>
> https://gearjunkie.com/apparel/showa-temres-282-02-review
>
> Russell Duncan
> Leverett, MA and Saratoga, WY
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:11:06 AM UTC-6 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Have you tried USB heated gloves? A friend we go riding with swears by 
>> them in winter, though I haven't used them myself. In winter here we're 
>> sometimes riding in temperatures of -5C or accasionally a couple of degrees 
>> colder (somewhere around 20F). At those temperatures I find that a pair of 
>> Roeckl lobster mitts over thin woolen gloves keep my fingers feeling OK. 
>> For feet I have a pair of Shimano winter shoes - I think the model is MW7. 
>> The best skullcaps for those sort of temperatures I've found, that will fit 
>> under a helmet, are made by Vaude.
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-02 Thread Russell Duncan

I use the treasonably priced TEMRES 282-02 gloves for a variety of winter 
activities, including riding ATVs and snowmobiles. Good shoulder season 
gloves by themselves or add a wool liner. Great gloves for snow shoveling. 
For that shoulder season time of the year, I drop down a size. For colder 
weather, I use Size XL with a liner.

https://gearjunkie.com/apparel/showa-temres-282-02-review

Russell Duncan
Leverett, MA and Saratoga, WY
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:11:06 AM UTC-6 Nick Payne wrote:

> Have you tried USB heated gloves? A friend we go riding with swears by 
> them in winter, though I haven't used them myself. In winter here we're 
> sometimes riding in temperatures of -5C or accasionally a couple of degrees 
> colder (somewhere around 20F). At those temperatures I find that a pair of 
> Roeckl lobster mitts over thin woolen gloves keep my fingers feeling OK. 
> For feet I have a pair of Shimano winter shoes - I think the model is MW7. 
> The best skullcaps for those sort of temperatures I've found, that will fit 
> under a helmet, are made by Vaude.
>
> Nick Payne
>

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[RBW] FS: Lightly used 173 Silver Crankset 42 x 28 tooth with chainguard

2023-10-02 Thread Daniel Rooke

Not many miles on this.  It's been sitting in a parts bin for a while now 
so needs a new home.  A few scratches and marks but nothing bad.  Chain 
rings have some life left too.  $180 shipped.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-02 Thread Richard Rose

I cannot recommend enough the Simworks Homage. Mine are 27.5 x 55 and are equally at home on tarmac, gravel and mild dirt. Supple enough, durable & dare I say at least as quiet as Fleecer Ridge tires I tried. The 700 version is only available in the narrower 43mm which I bet is lovely. Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 2, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Mark Schneider wrote:Looking at the bikes I have at my home, including the Rivs I'm almost entirely on Rene Herse tires. This includes an Umtanum Ridge the first knobby tire from them, I've tried, I'm impressed with the low noise and rolling resistance for such an aggressive tread. I feel that once you use them for a while, it's hard to ride anything else. I don't get flats too often, not in Half Moon Bay or in the Pescadero area. When I tried them a few years ago, I did really like the Supple Vitesse in 700x42 on my Atlantis for a while. I do have a couple of Thuderburts in the mix and I have no complaints, but once they wear out...I haven't tried the tires from Ultradynamico, or Sim Works yet, but I might dip my toe in at some point. On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:22:07 PM UTC-7 Jeremy Till wrote:On my Rivendells I've noticed that, irrespective of the surface I'm riding on, I actually prefer the handling with larger knobby tires than with larger slick tires. This is true on both my Clem H (2016, first-gen) with 45-55mm tires and my Rambouillet (green, ~2006 as far as I can tell) with 36-38mm tires. My explanation for this is that Grant tends to design bikes with larger geometric trail. When you add in the pneumatic trail of larger slick tires, the whole thing can feel harder to turn. Knobby tires give you the same shock absorption while putting less rubber on the pavement, thus reducing the pneumatic trail. Jan Heine has noted this effect himself when comparing knobby and slick versions of his tires. My Rambouillet current wears RH (actually Compass, they're a few years old) Steilacoom 700x38 knobbies. My Clem H has 29x2.2 Specialized Fast Traks with the "Control" casing, which is an XC-oriented MTB tire with relatively minimal knobs that rolls well on pavement. In my experience there is no free lunch when it comes to supple casings and flats. Certainly the ride is better with things like the RH standard casing but my rate of flatting from glass and thorns goes up. Sealant and tubeless haven't been the solution, in my experience, and I run both of my Rivendells with tubes. Since Patrick was also mentioning them I will say that I've used both the 700x42 and 700x38 versions of the Soma Supple Vitesse EX on my Long Haul Trucker, which seems to handle better with large slicks than my Rivendells. Those are good tires with an acceptable flat rate for me. I also tried the 700x38 SL version on my Rambouillet and found that not only did I not like the handling, but the flat rate was excessive for me. Note that the only difference between the EX and SL Supple Vitesses is the thickness of the tread, with the EX having thicker treads. Unlike RH and other brands there is no difference in the casing between the lightweight and longer wearing versions. I believe that the Shikiro is the same tread as the Supple Vitesse EX with a heavier duty casing. Jeremy TillSacramento, CAOn Monday, October 2, 2023 at 8:26:17 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit absorbed with that thought.At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size, with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range to start.I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance” casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.The ones on my short list are currently the Manatash Ridge (700x42) and Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).— Ted

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[RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-02 Thread Mark Schneider

Looking at the bikes I have at my home, including the Rivs I'm almost 
entirely on Rene Herse tires. This includes an Umtanum Ridge the first 
knobby tire from them, I've tried, I'm impressed with the low noise and 
rolling resistance for such an aggressive tread. I feel that once you use 
them for a while, it's hard to ride anything else. I don't get flats too 
often, not in Half Moon Bay or in the Pescadero area. When I tried them a 
few years ago, I did really like the Supple Vitesse  in 700x42 on my 
Atlantis for a while. I do have a couple of Thuderburts in the mix and I 
have no complaints, but once they wear out...
I haven't tried the tires from Ultradynamico, or Sim Works yet, but I might 
dip my toe in at some point. 

On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:22:07 PM UTC-7 Jeremy Till wrote:

> On my Rivendells I've noticed that, irrespective of the surface I'm riding 
> on, I actually prefer the handling with larger knobby tires than with 
> larger slick tires. This is true on both my Clem H (2016, first-gen) with 
> 45-55mm tires and my Rambouillet (green, ~2006 as far as I can tell) with 
> 36-38mm tires. My explanation for this is that Grant tends to design bikes 
> with larger geometric trail. When you add in the pneumatic trail of larger 
> slick tires, the whole thing can feel harder to turn. Knobby tires give you 
> the same shock absorption while putting less rubber on the pavement, thus 
> reducing the pneumatic trail. Jan Heine has noted this effect himself when 
> comparing knobby and slick versions of his tires. 
>
> My Rambouillet current wears RH (actually Compass, they're a few years 
> old) Steilacoom 700x38 knobbies. My Clem H has 29x2.2 Specialized Fast 
> Traks with the "Control" casing, which is an XC-oriented MTB tire with 
> relatively minimal knobs that rolls well on pavement. In my experience 
> there is no free lunch when it comes to supple casings and flats. Certainly 
> the ride is better with things like the RH standard casing but my rate of 
> flatting from glass and thorns goes up. Sealant and tubeless haven't been 
> the solution, in my experience, and I run both of my Rivendells with 
> tubes.  
>
> Since Patrick was also mentioning them I will say that I've used both the 
> 700x42 and 700x38 versions of the Soma Supple Vitesse EX on my Long Haul 
> Trucker, which seems to handle better with large slicks than my Rivendells. 
> Those are good tires with an acceptable flat rate for me. I also tried the 
> 700x38 SL version on my Rambouillet and found that not only did I not like 
> the handling, but the flat rate was excessive for me. Note that the only 
> difference between the EX and SL Supple Vitesses is the thickness of the 
> tread, with the EX having thicker treads. Unlike RH and other brands there 
> is no difference in the casing between the lightweight and longer wearing 
> versions. I believe that the Shikiro is the same tread as the Supple 
> Vitesse EX with a heavier duty casing.  
>
> Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 8:26:17 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want 
>> to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit 
>> absorbed with that thought.
>>
>> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall 
>> in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build 
>> and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size, 
>> with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires 
>> sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim 
>> I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>>
>> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile 
>> and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range 
>> to start.
>>
>> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who 
>> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and 
>> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build 
>> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance” 
>> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the 
>> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the 
>> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>>
>> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and 
>> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>>
>> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. 
>> If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like 
>> (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>>
>> — Ted
>>
>

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[RBW] Update: FS: Various vintage componentry

2023-10-02 Thread Kim H.

The toe clips, straps and hardware and the rear metal saddle loop 
attachments have both been SOLD.

Here is what is left:

I am open to your offers to all of the following:

1.One set of used vintage white Bluemel 700C f/r fenders with an extra 
NOS Bluemel 700C white rear fender with twelve used Bluemel fender struts 
and hardware and small reflector - $80.00, plus shipping.

2.   One pair of NOS Campagnolo Nouvo Record brake levers with new 
aftermarket gum hoods. No logos on the gum hoods. - $150.00, plus shipping.

3.   One Suntour Cyclone GT rear derailleur in excellent condition - 
$75.00, plus shipping

Suntour 1st generation front derailleur  in good condition - $35.00, plus 
shipping. 

4.   Vintage used 1976 orange Eclipse Professional handlebar bag with a 
rare Eclipse “Seat-Post Thing” made of cast aluminum.  I recently machine 
washed the bag after taking out the Mylar support sleeve. I am unable to 
put it back. Maybe you can?  The bag has some wear spots and some threading 
separation. Otherwise, it is very functional. I do not have the map case. 
The original stabilizing bungees lost their elasticity over the years, thus 
I will include two small newer black bungees. I would like to sell the bag, 
bracket and the “Seat-Post Thing” altogether for $75.00, plus shipping.

5.  NIB/NOS Six speed ULTRA Suntour freewheel for 120mm OLD spacing– 14-32T 
- $120.00, plus shipping.

6. One NOS Wolber 700c 36-hole M58 clincher rim ( Outside: 22.2mm/inside: 
16.9mm)and one used Super Champion 700c 36-hole clincher rim(outside: 
21.8mm/inside: 16.9mm in good condition with side wall wear. There is no 
other label indicating that the rim is further identified as being that a 
"GENTLEMAN" rim. $50.00 for one rim, plus shipping or both for $75.00, plus 
shipping.

7. Two used Suntour double down tube cable stops in good condition - $15.00 
for the two or $10.00/each, free shipping.

Pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/hbT3xQwjhvAodCAk9

I accept Paypal only. Friends and family preferred. Exact shipping costs 
will be determined at the time of shipping through my local post office.

Any questions or interest feel free to email me.

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel

Yelm, WA.

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 9:51:59 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> I am open to all of your offers to all of the following:
>
> 1.One set of used vintage white Bluemel 700C f/r fenders with an 
> extra NOS Bluemel 700C white rear fender with twelve used Bluemel fender 
> struts and hardware and small reflector - $80.00, plus shipping.
>
> 2.   One pair of NOS Campagnolo Nouvo Record brake levers with new 
> aftermarket gum hoods. No logos on the gum hoods. - $150.00, plus shipping.
>
> 3.   One Suntour Cyclone GT rear derailleur in excellent condition - 
> $75.00, plus shipping
>
>   Suntour 1st generation front derailleur  in good condition - 
> $35.00, plus shipping. 
>
> 4.  Two matching attachable metal rear underside saddle loops a little 
> tarnished - $10.00, free shipping.
>
> 5.   Vintage used 1976 orange Eclipse Professional handlebar bag with a 
> rare Eclipse “Seat-Post Thing” made of cast aluminum.  I recently machine 
> washed the bag after taking out the Mylar support sleeve. I am unable to 
> put it back. Maybe you can?  The bag has some wear spots and some 
> threading separation. Otherwise, it is very functional. I do not have the 
> map case. The original stabilizing bungees lost their elasticity over the 
> years, thus I will include two small newer black bungees. I would like to 
> sell the bag, bracket and the “Seat-Post Thing” altogether for $75.00, plus 
> shipping.
>
> 6.  NIB/NOS Six speed ULTRA Suntour freewheel for 120mm OLD spacing– 
> 14-32T - $120.00, plus shipping.
>
> 8.  NOS Christophe black toe straps with two used pairs of Christopher 
> toe clips and hardware with leather pull straps (?)- $45.00, plus shipping.
>
> 9. One NOS Wolber 700c 36-hole M58 clincher rim ( Outside: 22.2mm/inside: 
> 16.9mm)and one used Super Champion 700c 36-hole clincher rim(outside: 
> 21.8mm/inside: 16.9mm in good condition with side wall wear. There is no 
> other label indicating that the rim is further identified as being that a 
> "GENTLEMAN" rim. I would like to sell both for $75.00, plus shipping.
>
> 10. Two used Suntour double down tube cable stops in good condition - 
> $15.00 for the two or $10.00/each, free shipping.
>
> Pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/hbT3xQwjhvAodCAk9
>
> I accept Paypal only. Friends and family preferred. Exact shipping costs 
> will be determined at the time of shipping through my local post office.
>
> Any questions, email me.
>
> Thank-you.
>

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[RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-02 Thread Jeremy Till

On my Rivendells I've noticed that, irrespective of the surface I'm riding 
on, I actually prefer the handling with larger knobby tires than with 
larger slick tires. This is true on both my Clem H (2016, first-gen) with 
45-55mm tires and my Rambouillet (green, ~2006 as far as I can tell) with 
36-38mm tires. My explanation for this is that Grant tends to design bikes 
with larger geometric trail. When you add in the pneumatic trail of larger 
slick tires, the whole thing can feel harder to turn. Knobby tires give you 
the same shock absorption while putting less rubber on the pavement, thus 
reducing the pneumatic trail. Jan Heine has noted this effect himself when 
comparing knobby and slick versions of his tires. 

My Rambouillet current wears RH (actually Compass, they're a few years old) 
Steilacoom 700x38 knobbies. My Clem H has 29x2.2 Specialized Fast Traks 
with the "Control" casing, which is an XC-oriented MTB tire with relatively 
minimal knobs that rolls well on pavement. In my experience there is no 
free lunch when it comes to supple casings and flats. Certainly the ride is 
better with things like the RH standard casing but my rate of flatting from 
glass and thorns goes up. Sealant and tubeless haven't been the solution, 
in my experience, and I run both of my Rivendells with tubes.  

Since Patrick was also mentioning them I will say that I've used both the 
700x42 and 700x38 versions of the Soma Supple Vitesse EX on my Long Haul 
Trucker, which seems to handle better with large slicks than my Rivendells. 
Those are good tires with an acceptable flat rate for me. I also tried the 
700x38 SL version on my Rambouillet and found that not only did I not like 
the handling, but the flat rate was excessive for me. Note that the only 
difference between the EX and SL Supple Vitesses is the thickness of the 
tread, with the EX having thicker treads. Unlike RH and other brands there 
is no difference in the casing between the lightweight and longer wearing 
versions. I believe that the Shikiro is the same tread as the Supple 
Vitesse EX with a heavier duty casing.  

Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 8:26:17 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want to 
> try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit absorbed 
> with that thought.
>
> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall 
> in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build 
> and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size, 
> with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires 
> sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim 
> I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>
> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile and 
> something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range to 
> start.
>
> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who 
> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and 
> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build 
> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance” 
> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the 
> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the 
> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>
> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and 
> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>
> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. If 
> you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like (particularly 
> 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>
> — Ted
>

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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

I have yet to find a really supple tire that has any sort of off road
tread. The Vittoria terreno dry came close in 650b. I do wonder about the
Schwalbe G One RS. I need something fast on pavement with just enough grip
to not feel extremely vague on loose stuff.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 11:34 AM Ted W  wrote:

> > I saw this again:
> *There is a pervasive myth that thin, "supple" tire sidewalls are
> essential to a smooth and cushy ride. That is misleading at best, bullshit
> at worst. For a given tire volume and inflation pressure, a thinner tire
> casing will obviously flex more. But that also means that for any degree of
> rim protection (from bottoming out), you have to inflate it harder. For any
> given degree of measurable cush, you don't have to inflate a stiffer tire
> as much. Maybe 5psi less. This will give you the same absorption over a
> bump, and a more cut-resistant and sun-resistant tire. *>
> > I have conscientiously pursued supple tire Nirvana years and I've been
> able to compare a fair number of supple, more supple, and less supple
> tires, and while as always YMMAWV, I conclude that thin, supple sidewalls
> do make a huge difference despite the reality that, yes, they require more
> air pressure and don't always feel smoother than thicker tires at lower
> pressures, *but* they also don't have that "how did I end up riding in
> molasses?" feel of thick tires at pressures low enough not to be jarring.
>
> Grant is a very highly opinionated person and, like all highly opinionated
> people, should have their opinions considered with a healthy dose of salt
> on the side. I definitely agree with his "fuss less, ride more" mentality
> of bikes but there are definitely some aspects that I've also come to
> believe, for my own style of riding, make more of a difference than he
> gives credit; tires are one such area where I will have to agree to
> disagree with Grant.
>
> I recently finished reading Jan's book The All-Road Bike Revolution and
> have read numerous studies by Silca on the effects of tire design and air
> pressure. The views expressed by these two sources more closely mirror my
> own experience and opinions on the subject. And while I don't think tires
> and tire pressure are the *only* things that should be considered, I
> think tires are one of the most important, interchangeable components on a
> bicycle that impacts the overall feel of the bike on a given surface so it
> makes sense to put more thought and attention in to it when all other bases
> are covered (bike fit, etc.).
>
> I've ridden very comfortable, thick wall tires (WTB Thick Slicks, for
> those curious) as well as a number of different "performance" tires for
> both road and gravel and I can say with absolute certainty that you can
> definitely find comfortable tires with thicker sidewalls and less "supple"
> construction, but they are the exception. You will be hard pressed to be
> disappointed by the ride quality (not accounting for other factors) of a
> tire designed with a thinner, and more flexible sidewall.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 2:15 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I just read from the RBW page and remembered that I'd read it and
>> considered the Shikoros before. I take it that the Shikoros are perhaps
>> more like Jack Brown Greens than like RH extralights.
>>
>> I saw this again: *There is a pervasive myth that thin, "supple" tire
>> sidewalls are essential to a smooth and cushy ride. That is misleading at
>> best, bullshit at worst. For a given tire volume and inflation pressure, a
>> thinner tire casing will obviously flex more. But that also means that for
>> any degree of rim protection (from bottoming out), you have to inflate it
>> harder. For any given degree of measurable cush, you don't have to inflate
>> a stiffer tire as much. Maybe 5psi less. This will give you the same
>> absorption over a bump, and a more cut-resistant and sun-resistant tire. *
>>
>> I have conscientiously pursued supple tire Nirvana years and I've been
>> able to compare a fair number of supple, more supple, and less supple
>> tires, and while as always YMMAWV, I conclude that thin, supple sidewalls
>> do make a huge difference despite the reality that, yes, they require more
>> air pressure and don't always feel smoother than thicker tires at lower
>> pressures, *but* they also don't have that "how did I end up riding in
>> molasses?" feel of thick tires at pressures low enough not to be jarring.
>>
>> I know, I recall swapping out 60 mm Schwalbe Big Apples for 60 mm Big
>> Ones (the lightest model) and being disappointed that I had to pump the BOs
>> to close to 20 psi versus the 15 I'd put in the BAs. 20 psi in paper thin
>> supple tires means that they do ride no more smoothly over bumps than 15
>> psi heavy tires, but OTOH, the rolling quality is so far superior to forego
>> comparison.
>>
>> So sure, you can get a smooth ride with thick tires; I did with 622 X 60
>> and 559 X 60 Big Apples at 15 psi. But handling

Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

> I saw this again:
*There is a pervasive myth that thin, "supple" tire sidewalls are essential
to a smooth and cushy ride. That is misleading at best, bullshit at worst.
For a given tire volume and inflation pressure, a thinner tire casing will
obviously flex more. But that also means that for any degree of rim
protection (from bottoming out), you have to inflate it harder. For any
given degree of measurable cush, you don't have to inflate a stiffer tire
as much. Maybe 5psi less. This will give you the same absorption over a
bump, and a more cut-resistant and sun-resistant tire. *>
> I have conscientiously pursued supple tire Nirvana years and I've been
able to compare a fair number of supple, more supple, and less supple
tires, and while as always YMMAWV, I conclude that thin, supple sidewalls
do make a huge difference despite the reality that, yes, they require more
air pressure and don't always feel smoother than thicker tires at lower
pressures, *but* they also don't have that "how did I end up riding in
molasses?" feel of thick tires at pressures low enough not to be jarring.

Grant is a very highly opinionated person and, like all highly opinionated
people, should have their opinions considered with a healthy dose of salt
on the side. I definitely agree with his "fuss less, ride more" mentality
of bikes but there are definitely some aspects that I've also come to
believe, for my own style of riding, make more of a difference than he
gives credit; tires are one such area where I will have to agree to
disagree with Grant.

I recently finished reading Jan's book The All-Road Bike Revolution and
have read numerous studies by Silca on the effects of tire design and air
pressure. The views expressed by these two sources more closely mirror my
own experience and opinions on the subject. And while I don't think tires
and tire pressure are the *only* things that should be considered, I think
tires are one of the most important, interchangeable components on a
bicycle that impacts the overall feel of the bike on a given surface so it
makes sense to put more thought and attention in to it when all other bases
are covered (bike fit, etc.).

I've ridden very comfortable, thick wall tires (WTB Thick Slicks, for those
curious) as well as a number of different "performance" tires for both road
and gravel and I can say with absolute certainty that you can definitely
find comfortable tires with thicker sidewalls and less "supple"
construction, but they are the exception. You will be hard pressed to be
disappointed by the ride quality (not accounting for other factors) of a
tire designed with a thinner, and more flexible sidewall.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 2:15 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I just read from the RBW page and remembered that I'd read it and
> considered the Shikoros before. I take it that the Shikoros are perhaps
> more like Jack Brown Greens than like RH extralights.
>
> I saw this again: *There is a pervasive myth that thin, "supple" tire
> sidewalls are essential to a smooth and cushy ride. That is misleading at
> best, bullshit at worst. For a given tire volume and inflation pressure, a
> thinner tire casing will obviously flex more. But that also means that for
> any degree of rim protection (from bottoming out), you have to inflate it
> harder. For any given degree of measurable cush, you don't have to inflate
> a stiffer tire as much. Maybe 5psi less. This will give you the same
> absorption over a bump, and a more cut-resistant and sun-resistant tire. *
>
> I have conscientiously pursued supple tire Nirvana years and I've been
> able to compare a fair number of supple, more supple, and less supple
> tires, and while as always YMMAWV, I conclude that thin, supple sidewalls
> do make a huge difference despite the reality that, yes, they require more
> air pressure and don't always feel smoother than thicker tires at lower
> pressures, *but* they also don't have that "how did I end up riding in
> molasses?" feel of thick tires at pressures low enough not to be jarring.
>
> I know, I recall swapping out 60 mm Schwalbe Big Apples for 60 mm Big Ones
> (the lightest model) and being disappointed that I had to pump the BOs to
> close to 20 psi versus the 15 I'd put in the BAs. 20 psi in paper thin
> supple tires means that they do ride no more smoothly over bumps than 15
> psi heavy tires, but OTOH, the rolling quality is so far superior to forego
> comparison.
>
> So sure, you can get a smooth ride with thick tires; I did with 622 X 60
> and 559 X 60 Big Apples at 15 psi. But handling and rolling resistance ...?
> Sorry.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 11:21 AM Ted W  wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, RE: Shikoros, I was going off what Riv carries on
>> the site:
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/soma-shikoro-tires?variant=31799845519471
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Ted: I hadn't heard of the Shikoros; thanks. I looked the, up on Soma's
>>> site and also called up some

Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

I just read from the RBW page and remembered that I'd read it and
considered the Shikoros before. I take it that the Shikoros are perhaps
more like Jack Brown Greens than like RH extralights.

I saw this again: *There is a pervasive myth that thin, "supple" tire
sidewalls are essential to a smooth and cushy ride. That is misleading at
best, bullshit at worst. For a given tire volume and inflation pressure, a
thinner tire casing will obviously flex more. But that also means that for
any degree of rim protection (from bottoming out), you have to inflate it
harder. For any given degree of measurable cush, you don't have to inflate
a stiffer tire as much. Maybe 5psi less. This will give you the same
absorption over a bump, and a more cut-resistant and sun-resistant tire. *

I have conscientiously pursued supple tire Nirvana years and I've been able
to compare a fair number of supple, more supple, and less supple tires, and
while as always YMMAWV, I conclude that thin, supple sidewalls do make a
huge difference despite the reality that, yes, they require more air
pressure and don't always feel smoother than thicker tires at lower
pressures, *but* they also don't have that "how did I end up riding in
molasses?" feel of thick tires at pressures low enough not to be jarring.

I know, I recall swapping out 60 mm Schwalbe Big Apples for 60 mm Big Ones
(the lightest model) and being disappointed that I had to pump the BOs to
close to 20 psi versus the 15 I'd put in the BAs. 20 psi in paper thin
supple tires means that they do ride no more smoothly over bumps than 15
psi heavy tires, but OTOH, the rolling quality is so far superior to forego
comparison.

So sure, you can get a smooth ride with thick tires; I did with 622 X 60
and 559 X 60 Big Apples at 15 psi. But handling and rolling resistance ...?
Sorry.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 11:21 AM Ted W  wrote:

> For what it's worth, RE: Shikoros, I was going off what Riv carries on the
> site:
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/soma-shikoro-tires?variant=31799845519471
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Ted: I hadn't heard of the Shikoros; thanks. I looked the, up on Soma's
>> site and also called up some reviews. Apparently the fattest ones are only
>> 42 mm wide, and while the reviews were positive they weren't ecstatic as
>> they were for the Supple Vitesse SL. The Shikoro is apparently more of a
>> commuter tire with a puncture belt and therefore rather heavy (360 grams
>> for the SSV SL, 450 grams for the fatter 60 mm Big One lightweight model).
>> I prefer ultra supple and ultralight tires even on my errand bikes and have
>> done well on them by riding with care and using good sealant. (I used to
>> commute 15 or 16 miles 1-way across town on rough pavement with loads on
>> 200 gram Specialized 26 X 1" Turbos and had fewer flats than with 240 gram
>> 26 X 1.25 Paselas.)
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 10:38 AM Ted W  wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick,
>>>
>>> The SSVSLs remind me of the Soma Shikoros that are currently available
>>> up to 700x48. Have you ever ridden these for comparison? They were
>>> originally on my list but I'd written them off due to the lack of tread
>>> (and in my mind, the associated puncture resistance).
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:20 PM Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Eliot: I've considered the Snoqualmies as an alternative to my
  no-longer-made Soma Supple Vitesse SLs (of which I have a small stash).
 The Somas are labeled 48 and measure 51.5 mm on my Blunt SS 35 mm OW rims
 and 50 seems a sweet spot for this bike.

 How wide do your SPs measure in real world mms, and on what width of
 rim and at what tire pressure?

 Thanks, Patrick

 On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:46 AM Eliot Balogh 
 wrote:

> I LOVE the Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 EL tires. I had some issues with
> leakage but it ended up being a tape issue and now they’re perfect. They
> have unbelievable rolling resistance and ride feel. They’re the best
> balance of speed and suppleness that seem to roll as fast as a skinny but
> have the suppleness of a fatty. I will cry long and hard if I ever have to
> give up on them (longevity isn’t great and some can be fussy tubeless). It
> sounds like you want some knobby goodness but if you’re just riding light
> gravel these could do the trick.
>
> For more aggressive tread I bought some Specialized Pathfinder Pro
> 700x42 which seem pretty good so far.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:26 AM Ted W  wrote:
>
>> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might
>> want to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a 
>> bit
>> absorbed with that thought.
>>
>> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black
>> sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a
>> 26” build and absolutely loved them on that bike.

Re: [RBW] WTB: Paul rack adapters

2023-10-02 Thread Brian Turner

Hi Ted! Thanks for the reply. I believe that's just an M6x20mm hex bolt.
I'm guessing Paul would send you a set if you reached out to him. I've
found he's pretty cool about stuff like that. Also, I could send you mine
and you can give me a price you'd want for your rack mounts (consider the
partial value of the bolts to you) if you wanted to go that route. Let me
know what you'd like to do!

-Brian

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:22 PM Ted W  wrote:

> Hey, Brian,
>
> I've got a set of these that I no longer use but I've misplaced the
> original bolts so I can't get rid of them until I either find them or a
> suitable replacement. If you, or anyone on the list, are able to help with
> that I'd be happy to part with them for a reasonable price.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:33 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>
>> If you're sitting on a pair of these and wish to let them go, I'd be
>> interested! I already have one set, but need another.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Brian
>> Lexington KY
>>
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[RBW] Re: Perfection from the last newsletter

2023-10-02 Thread JohnS

I was impressed by that bike as well. Looks like it's ready to go anywhere.

JohnS


On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-4 jamin orrall wrote:

> The bike belongs to Masa, more photos and info here:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/james-japan-pics
>
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 10:36:41 AM UTC-4 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> I love this build so much, Rivendell perfection in my book.  Posting here 
>> in case anyone missed it! 
>>
>> [image: riv all rounder.jpeg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Paul rack adapters

Hey, Brian,

I've got a set of these that I no longer use but I've misplaced the
original bolts so I can't get rid of them until I either find them or a
suitable replacement. If you, or anyone on the list, are able to help with
that I'd be happy to part with them for a reasonable price.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:33 PM Brian Turner  wrote:

> If you're sitting on a pair of these and wish to let them go, I'd be
> interested! I already have one set, but need another.
>
> Thanks!
> Brian
> Lexington KY
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

For what it's worth, RE: Shikoros, I was going off what Riv carries on the
site:
https://www.rivbike.com/products/soma-shikoro-tires?variant=31799845519471

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Ted: I hadn't heard of the Shikoros; thanks. I looked the, up on Soma's
> site and also called up some reviews. Apparently the fattest ones are only
> 42 mm wide, and while the reviews were positive they weren't ecstatic as
> they were for the Supple Vitesse SL. The Shikoro is apparently more of a
> commuter tire with a puncture belt and therefore rather heavy (360 grams
> for the SSV SL, 450 grams for the fatter 60 mm Big One lightweight model).
> I prefer ultra supple and ultralight tires even on my errand bikes and have
> done well on them by riding with care and using good sealant. (I used to
> commute 15 or 16 miles 1-way across town on rough pavement with loads on
> 200 gram Specialized 26 X 1" Turbos and had fewer flats than with 240 gram
> 26 X 1.25 Paselas.)
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 10:38 AM Ted W  wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> The SSVSLs remind me of the Soma Shikoros that are currently available up
>> to 700x48. Have you ever ridden these for comparison? They were originally
>> on my list but I'd written them off due to the lack of tread (and in my
>> mind, the associated puncture resistance).
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:20 PM Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Eliot: I've considered the Snoqualmies as an alternative to my
>>>  no-longer-made Soma Supple Vitesse SLs (of which I have a small stash).
>>> The Somas are labeled 48 and measure 51.5 mm on my Blunt SS 35 mm OW rims
>>> and 50 seems a sweet spot for this bike.
>>>
>>> How wide do your SPs measure in real world mms, and on what width of rim
>>> and at what tire pressure?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:46 AM Eliot Balogh 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I LOVE the Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 EL tires. I had some issues with
 leakage but it ended up being a tape issue and now they’re perfect. They
 have unbelievable rolling resistance and ride feel. They’re the best
 balance of speed and suppleness that seem to roll as fast as a skinny but
 have the suppleness of a fatty. I will cry long and hard if I ever have to
 give up on them (longevity isn’t great and some can be fussy tubeless). It
 sounds like you want some knobby goodness but if you’re just riding light
 gravel these could do the trick.

 For more aggressive tread I bought some Specialized Pathfinder Pro
 700x42 which seem pretty good so far.


 On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:26 AM Ted W  wrote:

> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might
> want to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit
> absorbed with that thought.
>
> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black
> sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a
> 26” build and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the
> larger size, with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I
> find the tires sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with 
> the
> 25mm wide rim I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>
> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile
> and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range
> to start.
>
> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend
> who runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose
> and absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another
> build and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the
> “endurance” casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t
> handle the typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one
> of the reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>
> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42)
> and Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>
> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have
> liked. If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like
> (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>
> — Ted
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

Thanks, Eliot.

FWIW: Elk Passes labeled 32 measure 27 mm on 19 mm OW rims and 29 mm on 21
mm OW rims, with tubes, 50-60 psi; Naches Pass ELs labeled 42 mm measure
41-41.5 on 21 mm OW rims, tubes, 30-40 psi. I'm 170-175.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 10:51 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Most of the RH tires measure wider than advertised but I think the SP
> measure narrow. I’m pretty sure they were 42 or 43mm on a fairly wide rim
> (ENVE AG25 or Foundation 45) but I will double check when I get home.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:40 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:
>
>> I've just switched out my Specialized Sawtooth 700x44 with Rene Herse
>> 700x48 Hatcher Pass tires (standard casing). Both are folding bead tires
>> with supple sidewalls.  I enjoy the extra width of the Hatcher Pass but I'm
>> not convinced that they are worth twice the price yet (actually I got the
>> Specialized tires for like $18/each).  I'll see how they fare on my
>> suburban commute in the coming months. I suspect I'll have more flats but
>> I'll be sure to report back here.
>>
>> Tom
>> Reston, VA
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

Ted: I hadn't heard of the Shikoros; thanks. I looked the, up on Soma's
site and also called up some reviews. Apparently the fattest ones are only
42 mm wide, and while the reviews were positive they weren't ecstatic as
they were for the Supple Vitesse SL. The Shikoro is apparently more of a
commuter tire with a puncture belt and therefore rather heavy (360 grams
for the SSV SL, 450 grams for the fatter 60 mm Big One lightweight model).
I prefer ultra supple and ultralight tires even on my errand bikes and have
done well on them by riding with care and using good sealant. (I used to
commute 15 or 16 miles 1-way across town on rough pavement with loads on
200 gram Specialized 26 X 1" Turbos and had fewer flats than with 240 gram
26 X 1.25 Paselas.)

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 10:38 AM Ted W  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> The SSVSLs remind me of the Soma Shikoros that are currently available up
> to 700x48. Have you ever ridden these for comparison? They were originally
> on my list but I'd written them off due to the lack of tread (and in my
> mind, the associated puncture resistance).
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:20 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Eliot: I've considered the Snoqualmies as an alternative to my
>>  no-longer-made Soma Supple Vitesse SLs (of which I have a small stash).
>> The Somas are labeled 48 and measure 51.5 mm on my Blunt SS 35 mm OW rims
>> and 50 seems a sweet spot for this bike.
>>
>> How wide do your SPs measure in real world mms, and on what width of rim
>> and at what tire pressure?
>>
>> Thanks, Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:46 AM Eliot Balogh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I LOVE the Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 EL tires. I had some issues with
>>> leakage but it ended up being a tape issue and now they’re perfect. They
>>> have unbelievable rolling resistance and ride feel. They’re the best
>>> balance of speed and suppleness that seem to roll as fast as a skinny but
>>> have the suppleness of a fatty. I will cry long and hard if I ever have to
>>> give up on them (longevity isn’t great and some can be fussy tubeless). It
>>> sounds like you want some knobby goodness but if you’re just riding light
>>> gravel these could do the trick.
>>>
>>> For more aggressive tread I bought some Specialized Pathfinder Pro
>>> 700x42 which seem pretty good so far.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:26 AM Ted W  wrote:
>>>
 I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want
 to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit
 absorbed with that thought.

 At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black
 sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a
 26” build and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the
 larger size, with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I
 find the tires sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the
 25mm wide rim I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.

 I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile
 and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range
 to start.

 I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend
 who runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose
 and absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another
 build and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the
 “endurance” casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t
 handle the typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one
 of the reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.

 The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42)
 and Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.

 I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked.
 If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like
 (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).

 — Ted

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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-02 Thread Eric Floden

>
>
> My old Bomba has Compass 700 x 44 on it and they are dreamy. I have some
> G-Ones (60s) in reserve.


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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

Most of the RH tires measure wider than advertised but I think the SP
measure narrow. I’m pretty sure they were 42 or 43mm on a fairly wide rim
(ENVE AG25 or Foundation 45) but I will double check when I get home.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:40 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:

> I've just switched out my Specialized Sawtooth 700x44 with Rene Herse
> 700x48 Hatcher Pass tires (standard casing). Both are folding bead tires
> with supple sidewalls.  I enjoy the extra width of the Hatcher Pass but I'm
> not convinced that they are worth twice the price yet (actually I got the
> Specialized tires for like $18/each).  I'll see how they fare on my
> suburban commute in the coming months. I suspect I'll have more flats but
> I'll be sure to report back here.
>
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-02 Thread Tom Wyland

I've just switched out my Specialized Sawtooth 700x44 with Rene Herse 
700x48 Hatcher Pass tires (standard casing). Both are folding bead tires 
with supple sidewalls.  I enjoy the extra width of the Hatcher Pass but I'm 
not convinced that they are worth twice the price yet (actually I got the 
Specialized tires for like $18/each).  I'll see how they fare on my 
suburban commute in the coming months. I suspect I'll have more flats but 
I'll be sure to report back here.

Tom
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

Patrick,

The SSVSLs remind me of the Soma Shikoros that are currently available up
to 700x48. Have you ever ridden these for comparison? They were originally
on my list but I'd written them off due to the lack of tread (and in my
mind, the associated puncture resistance).

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:20 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Eliot: I've considered the Snoqualmies as an alternative to my
>  no-longer-made Soma Supple Vitesse SLs (of which I have a small stash).
> The Somas are labeled 48 and measure 51.5 mm on my Blunt SS 35 mm OW rims
> and 50 seems a sweet spot for this bike.
>
> How wide do your SPs measure in real world mms, and on what width of rim
> and at what tire pressure?
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:46 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>
>> I LOVE the Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 EL tires. I had some issues with
>> leakage but it ended up being a tape issue and now they’re perfect. They
>> have unbelievable rolling resistance and ride feel. They’re the best
>> balance of speed and suppleness that seem to roll as fast as a skinny but
>> have the suppleness of a fatty. I will cry long and hard if I ever have to
>> give up on them (longevity isn’t great and some can be fussy tubeless). It
>> sounds like you want some knobby goodness but if you’re just riding light
>> gravel these could do the trick.
>>
>> For more aggressive tread I bought some Specialized Pathfinder Pro 700x42
>> which seem pretty good so far.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:26 AM Ted W  wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want
>>> to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit
>>> absorbed with that thought.
>>>
>>> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black
>>> sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a
>>> 26” build and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the
>>> larger size, with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I
>>> find the tires sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the
>>> 25mm wide rim I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>>>
>>> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile
>>> and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range
>>> to start.
>>>
>>> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who
>>> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and
>>> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build
>>> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance”
>>> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the
>>> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the
>>> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>>>
>>> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and
>>> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>>>
>>> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked.
>>> If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like
>>> (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>>>
>>> — Ted
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Paul rack adapters

2023-10-02 Thread Brian Turner

If you're sitting on a pair of these and wish to let them go, I'd be 
interested! I already have one set, but need another.

Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

Sheesh, forgot a main point, which is that the Somas have a nice rounded
profile. See again downside in sand compared to squarer, also 50 mm,
Furious Freds.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 10:14 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I recently installed 48 mm Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48s on my Matthews "road
> bike for dirt" and they "feel" as if they roll as well as the absolutely
> wonderful-roller ultralight (450 gram) 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that
> Schwalbe claimed at one point where their fastest rolling tires, bar none,
> including racing tires. The SL model seems no longer made but they still
> make the K model, with puncture belt, is still available for about $60 and
> has a very good rolling reputation too. The SLs measure 51.5 mm on my 27 mm
> IW Blunt SS rims at 23-25 psi, about 5 psi more than I put in the Big Ones.
>
> Highly recommended. I mount them tubeless and use Orange Seal Endurance.
>
> The SSVSLs not only roll very well but they gave this bike the handling
> that I had always wanted it to have: as close to that of a Rivendell road
> bike as possible given the fatter tires and somewhat offroad geometry
> (71.5* head, 55 mm rake); no more fast-corner slight understeer and
> slow-corner vagueness as with the Big Ones and even the squarer profile and
> also ~50 mm Schwalbe Furious Freds. The downside is that compared to the
> Big Ones and even the F Freds the bike tracks noticeably less stably in
> sand -- the front wanders more -- but that's a price I'll pay to get
> crisper handling on the pavement that makes up half of my riding on this
> bike.
>
> As for flats: I use super light (175 gram) 28 mm RH Elk Passes and
> extralight (300 gram) 42 mm RH Naches Passes on other bikes and I ride
> securely amongst the goatheads with Orange Seal Regular in the lightweight
> (70 gram, 100 gram) 26X1 and 650B X 42 mm Schwalbe tubes)
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:26 AM Ted W  wrote:
>
>> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want
>> to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit
>> absorbed with that thought.
>>
>> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall
>> in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build
>> and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size,
>> with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires
>> sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim
>> I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>>
>> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile
>> and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range
>> to start.
>>
>> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who
>> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and
>> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build
>> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance”
>> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the
>> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the
>> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>>
>> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and
>> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>>
>> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked.
>> If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like
>> (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>>
>> — Ted
>>
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

I recently installed 48 mm Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48s on my Matthews "road
bike for dirt" and they "feel" as if they roll as well as the absolutely
wonderful-roller ultralight (450 gram) 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that
Schwalbe claimed at one point where their fastest rolling tires, bar none,
including racing tires. The SL model seems no longer made but they still
make the K model, with puncture belt, is still available for about $60 and
has a very good rolling reputation too. The SLs measure 51.5 mm on my 27 mm
IW Blunt SS rims at 23-25 psi, about 5 psi more than I put in the Big Ones.

Highly recommended. I mount them tubeless and use Orange Seal Endurance.

The SSVSLs not only roll very well but they gave this bike the handling
that I had always wanted it to have: as close to that of a Rivendell road
bike as possible given the fatter tires and somewhat offroad geometry
(71.5* head, 55 mm rake); no more fast-corner slight understeer and
slow-corner vagueness as with the Big Ones and even the squarer profile and
also ~50 mm Schwalbe Furious Freds. The downside is that compared to the
Big Ones and even the F Freds the bike tracks noticeably less stably in
sand -- the front wanders more -- but that's a price I'll pay to get
crisper handling on the pavement that makes up half of my riding on this
bike.

As for flats: I use super light (175 gram) 28 mm RH Elk Passes and
extralight (300 gram) 42 mm RH Naches Passes on other bikes and I ride
securely amongst the goatheads with Orange Seal Regular in the lightweight
(70 gram, 100 gram) 26X1 and 650B X 42 mm Schwalbe tubes)

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:26 AM Ted W  wrote:

> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want to
> try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit absorbed
> with that thought.
>
> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall
> in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build
> and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size,
> with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires
> sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim
> I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>
> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile and
> something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range to
> start.
>
> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who
> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and
> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build
> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance”
> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the
> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the
> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>
> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and
> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>
> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. If
> you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like (particularly
> 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>
> — Ted
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-02 Thread Ryan

Like Ted i found compass 26 inch with standard casing flat prone and not 
appreciably better than the Pamela's they replaced.otoh  I like the compass 
700 x 33 extra light 
stampede pass tires. Go figure
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 10:58:33 AM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> I finally chose—and so far, am very happy with—the 700x50 Schwalbe G-One 
> Overland on my Appaloosa.
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> On Oct 2, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Ted W  wrote:
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> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want to 
> try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit absorbed 
> with that thought.
>
> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall 
> in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build 
> and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size, 
> with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires 
> sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim 
> I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>
> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile and 
> something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range to 
> start.
>
> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who 
> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and 
> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build 
> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance” 
> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the 
> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the 
> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>
> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and 
> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>
> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. If 
> you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like (particularly 
> 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>
> — Ted
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic 12cm stem, Sackville Banana Sacks

2023-10-02 Thread Roberta

Everything has been spoken for, pending payment.  Thanks and I hope 
everyone loves their purchases!

Roberta

On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 10:45:24 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Stem has been spoken for. Two banana sacks remain. 
>
> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 2:32:23 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Stem--take off from Riv bike. 12cm.  Light scratches,   $25+shipping.  It 
>> was holding an Albatross handlebar.  Nothing wrong with it, just too long 
>> for me.  
>>
>> Two Sackille Banana Sacks--one new in box (the one that looks smaller in 
>> the pics--its just not puffed up, one barely used.  My receipt calls them 
>> "blue" but I'd call them navy.  I love the size of the bag, but prefer 
>> transverse shaped bag. They also have a stiffener and a flap to cover your 
>> goods before securing the toggle.  Love the flap. New: $105 + shipping, 
>> barely used: $90 + shipping.  
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/sackville-banana-sax?variant=40595319062639
>>
>> Please PM me with interest or additional questions.  Shipping from 19106
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta
>> Philadelphia, PA
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

I LOVE the Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 EL tires. I had some issues with leakage
but it ended up being a tape issue and now they’re perfect. They have
unbelievable rolling resistance and ride feel. They’re the best balance of
speed and suppleness that seem to roll as fast as a skinny but have the
suppleness of a fatty. I will cry long and hard if I ever have to give up
on them (longevity isn’t great and some can be fussy tubeless). It sounds
like you want some knobby goodness but if you’re just riding light gravel
these could do the trick.

For more aggressive tread I bought some Specialized Pathfinder Pro 700x42
which seem pretty good so far.


On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:26 AM Ted W  wrote:

> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want to
> try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit absorbed
> with that thought.
>
> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall
> in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build
> and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size,
> with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires
> sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim
> I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>
> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile and
> something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range to
> start.
>
> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who
> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and
> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build
> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance”
> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the
> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the
> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>
> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and
> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>
> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. If
> you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like (particularly
> 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>
> — Ted
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Parts Bin

Thumbies have sold

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 4:16 PM Eliot B  wrote:

> Few odds and ends for sale. Offers welcome
>
> Photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzRCki
>
> SMP, MKS pedals and XTR rear D are pending.
> Selle Anatomica X $100
> Shimano Brake Levers $30
> TRP Brake Levers SOLD
> ENE thumb mounts $25
> Avid Tri-Dangle Hangers $20
> PDW 650b Beast fenders (mounted but never ridden) $75
> Shimano Cantilever Brakes $30
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[RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?