[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The chain holder is a brilliant idea! (I will have to try it on mine.)
A meticulous build -- I like all the set screws protecting threads.
David Lipsky in Berkeley, CA
On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 4:56:44 PM UTC-7 Armand Kizirian wrote:

> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
> 
>  
> *
>
> Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho Bars, 
> Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, Rivendell S2 
> friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap with 
> clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with Brooks 
> B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.
>
> [image: IMG_3282.JPG]
>
> Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, and 
> Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and nitto cable 
> hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped off with 
> Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey e-bike 
> pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate canti-lever 
> brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not passed by test. 
> Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.
>
> Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to Velocity 
> Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 36h rear, all 
> polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge. I will 
> likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire choice, setup 
> tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding fast, 
> especially on dirt. 
>
> Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight road 
> triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
> self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
> hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge Bottom 
> bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set screws 
> to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD pedals 
> for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
> cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
> roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
> 10-speed X10SL with the gold treatment, because, gold! This all shifts 
> *wonderfully.*
>
> Accessories include Nitto F32 front rack with Tanaka stainless steel 
> basket held by Voile mini straps, Nitto 32r rear rack with cygolite rear 
> light mount. Front rack features upcycled 28t chainring for my cygolite 
> go-pro mount (blue lug style) and M6 brass set screws to fill the unused 
> braze-ons. Blue Lug yellow X-Strap bungee cords front and rear, with the x2 
> rainbow Rivendell straps laced through the basket to handle any odd things 
> to carry on the fly. Beautiful Nitto R bottle cage on top, with ultra rare 
> matching Nitto BG-L 1-liter bottle cage on the bottom. Greenfield kickstand 
> wrapped with newbaums purple. Purple Blue Lug Koma lights front and rear at 
> the drop-outs for when I forget to bring my nicer lights. Newbaums wrap on 
> top tube for convenient handle grip when carrying up/down stairs to the 
> train. Blue lug style newbaums chainstay guard. Hemp twine features 
> everywhere. Lastly, any unused braze-ons are populated with M5 brass set 
> screws, including the backside of the utilized hourglass mounts 
>
> Security includes hexlox axles, with the same keyed inserts for the 
> seatpost clamp, stem, and saddle. GPS sticker for theft deterrent. Hidden 
> air tag. Serial number registered in two bike indexes. I purchased a 
> Kryptonite mini New York u-lock off ebay ($60 new!). It is absurd and 
> confidence inspiring. Makes my evolution mini u-lock look like a joke. 
>
> One bit I forgot to mention. The inner position of the lower rear right 
> rack mount are positioned perfectly for a chain holder, as 80's touring 
> bikes used to have. An Acetal bushing with delrin washers result in not 
> just a chain holder, but the ability to backpedal and lube the chain wit 
> the wheel off. 
>
>
> Thanks for reading! 
> Armand 
> Santa Monica, CA
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

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Wow -- those grips are amazing! Great find for the Platypus!
David (and I'm a vegetarian) Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 7:54:40 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> the grips are smashing.but nitto needs to make a 26.8 lugged seatpost
> for that lovely bike.just saying
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:57:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Raspberry Platypus BEFORE:
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> AND After…
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: image2.jpeg][image: image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg][image: 
>> image5.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover 
>> thread.
>>
>>
>> Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite 
>> Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and 
>> occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the 
>> Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I 
>> was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it 
>> out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, 
>> slapped them on and sent her a photo. 
>>
>> “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me 
>> the unvarnished truth. 
>>
>> I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found 
>> these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t 
>> have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut 
>> saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. 
>> The bike looks positively *tonal.* The colors of the paint throw out so 
>> many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in 
>> the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The 
>> stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual 
>> interest at the handlebar area. 
>>
>> This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and 
>> wholly appointed to its duty.
>>
>> Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair 
>> to match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…
>>
>> Attached in the next post are the before and afters.
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

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I, too, was curious about this but wanted to find out the size of Calvin's 
AHH. So, I did some RBW list searching and found that Calvin ordered it in 
Nov 2021 and had it built up by early Jan 2022. There are some nice 
pictures in emails that he posted as part of a Homer thread on Jan 9, 2022. 
(BTW, it is a blue 51cm.)
He also has a striking, gray Roadeo that is featured in the Riv employee 
bikes gallery. 
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/calvins-55cm-roadeo-83cm-pbh 

 
He started working there as a bike packer late last year.
I've worked in bike shops and it is not unusual to buy a new bike or frame 
at an employee discount (probably 30%), build it up, then flip it for 
basically the cost of another new one. (My problem was becoming attached to 
them!)
David Lipsky
Berkeley

On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 10:20:01 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

Am I understanding that you're selling your not-yet-delivered Homer frame 
for $300 less than you just paid? Maybe I'm reading it wrong. 

On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote:

Anyone potentially interested in my Homer Hilsen frameset? Thinking I'm 
going to switch it up. $1450 and I'll box it up ship it out straight from 
Rivendell HQ. Or someone can come by the shop and pick it up.

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[RBW] Re: Dyno Refresh: Platypus Edition

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Very clean job, Leah! Impressive work!
Make sure that you can turn the fork fully left and right without stressing 
the wires that connect to the front light.
Agree with you and Joe that grey will call less attention to the wiring and 
blend in with the rack a bit.

David Lipsky
On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 9:56:29 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Much cleaner looking now! 
>
> I vote for grey zipties, I think the brightly colored ones are too much 
> HEY THERE'S ZIPTIES HERE. 
>
> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 3:01:01 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I love my shop for many reasons but I give them 5 demerits for their dyno 
>> expertise. They assembled my Platypus in January 2022 and it was never 
>> strung up attractively, and then the rear light started shorting out, and 
>> then I paid for them to fix it a few times and then I gave up. I called 
>> Analog.
>>
>> Analog said send them the lights. They had to do extensive rewiring AND I 
>> had to get a new coaxial box because that was all corroded. I have no idea 
>> how I managed that after only one year, but we all have our talents.
>>
>> The lights came back to me today and I feel like the way I strung the 
>> wires looks pretty great, but we will have to see if function is as good as 
>> form. I have never, ever messed with dyno before, but I took photos of the 
>> bike from before and tried not to make it worse.
>>
>> Photos coming in the next post…
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: 2023 Riv Geo Chart

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Interesting to see that the chart shows a 2.5" max tire width for the 
Gus/Susie lineup.
The RivBike site says 2.6" max and when the frames first came out they were 
expected to fit up to 2.8". That was ... optimistic!
And, the website no longer shows a 60cm option for the GBW frames.
David (Susie in 53/650b) Lipsky
Berkeley
On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 5:54:19 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for sharing this Max.  I enjoy geeking out on the numbers!
>
> On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 7:50:46 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Here's a little nugget from Will's email, I know a few people were 
>> looking for the geo charts of the new frames.
>> Max
>>
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

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That’s a beautiful Clem! The rear rack is a perfect choice.
David
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:45:58 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> Clem L , 52cm, blue, $2000 with wood fenders and PDW rack 
> Sequim, WA (pronounced "skwim")
>
> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/carlsborg-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-52cm/7620340306.html
> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:12:14 AM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> ATLANTIS 2
>> 61cm
>> 3000
>> Santa Cruz, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendell-atlantis-touring/7618050500.html
>>
>>
>> SAM HILLBORNE
>> 62cm
>> 2500
>> Oakland, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-basket/7620769749.html
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Double 1x

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Looks like you can lower the new derailleur a tad. Have you tried that and 
run into interference?

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:04:45 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I had a nice 1x and wanted slightly lower gears for some crazy hills 
> around here, but didn't want to lose the already relatively low top end so 
> mashed some parts together and this is the result. 
>
> Starting point: SRAM Rival 1 (with clutch) rear derailer, I believe the 
> largest cog this is supposed to handle is 42t. I added a Garbaruk cage and 
> pulleys and it shifts a SunRace 11-50 11-spd cassette with a SRAM Apex 
> trigger shifter. The front is a Sugino XD crank with 34t chainring. 
>
> Ok what happens if I want double rings? The manufacturer stuff says I 
> can't use a 1x derailer (I don't know why) so I thought I would cheat a 
> little and make it kind of two 1x's by adding a 30t inner ring, Shimano 
> Deore (DynaSys 10-spd double) FD and a Silver2 thumbshifter on the stem. It 
> works! 
>
> Ok it doesn't work completely fabulously yet, the downshift to the small 
> ring doesn't always take and I still have some fiddling to do but overall 
> the bike works well for me using all of the gears in the 30t plus grabbing 
> the top 2 or 3 in the 34t on occasion, and sometimes just staying in the 
> 34t like before. It's not a massive increase in gear range, I think of it 
> as an expanded 1x. 
>
> Does it make sense? I don't know, maybe this can be duplicated by ye old 
> triple drivetrains with 11-36 cassettes but I don't like triples. I like 
> this! 
>
> Joe "tried to ditch front derailers, ended up with a front derailer again" 
> Bernard
>
> [image: Screenshot_20230429_211431.jpg][image: 
> Screenshot_20230429_211411.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Acorn handlebar bag

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I think they are all, now, either brown or black in waxed canvas. I was 
happy to be able to score a grey bag from the last batch made.
https://www.acornbags.com/collections/waxed-canvas-bags/products/small-handlebar-bag

David Lipsky

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:34:32 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

> Brand new, never used Acorn handlebar bag in grey waxed canvas. $60 
> shipped in ConUS. I don't think this is currently available for Acorn bags.
>
> [image: IMG_0670.JPG]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

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I usually have a nickel (with a few, round dents already in it) somewhere 
on one of my work stands for when I need to do this. Dime is too thin, a 
penny too soft and a quarter is too valuable!
David in Berkeley

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:27:32 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:

> Hi Brian, 
>
> If your stem has a tapped hole for the clamp bolt (as many steel stems 
> have, rather than a loose nut like many aluminum Nittos) you can use this 
> method:
>
> Helpful tip: Take the pinch bolt out. Insert a coin in the slot between 
> the clamp area. Thread the bolt in from the back side. Tighten it against 
> the coin. It will force the clamp open and it will stay that way during 
> your install.
>
> (I copied this from the net, rather than type up my own description.)
>
> HTH,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
>
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 09:27:40 AM GMT+11, Brian Forsee <
> bmfo...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> I've got some towel rack drop bars on the way to me that will be going on 
> my newly acquired AHH. I was planning on picking up one of the tools nitto 
> makes specifically for spreading single-bolt stems but Crust was out of 
> stock. I've installed plenty of bars using the ole flat head method, which 
> always works, but i usually end up with a scratch or two. Anybody got any 
> good alternative methods I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks!
> -Brian
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[RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Have you looked at the SimWorks "Obento" rack?
   https://www.sim.works/products/obento-rack
Pricey, but the "shiny" version seems to be in stock!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:

> “Any changes in parts and such while thinking over the build?”
>
> Reginald - yes, a few!   I switched to bar ends as thumbie mounts were 
> temporarily out of stock and I was impatient.  Lots of downstream effects 
> from that one.  I originally wanted to go with Ergon cork grips with 
> something like a Billie or a Crumworks bar.  I’ll see if the bar-ends on my 
> old Albatross and prodigious use of Newbaums works.  It’ll be creative 
> (nice word for obviously DIY).  If it’s not comfy, easy enough to make a 
> change.
>
> With the gigantic pedals, I am concerned with toe-to-tire spacing, so am 
> holding off on fenders.  Also no decision on racks. Crushed that the Nitto 
> Potluck rack is NLA.
>
> Getting there.  Riv box delivered today, more work this weekend.  Assuming 
> the Nexave derailer doesn’t derail me, should be finished up and ready to 
> ride.  (Whoa that’s a big photo - sorry). 
>
> Jake
>
> [image: A00698B8-FA9B-4BE4-8582-253D37FDB4B9.jpeg]
>
>
> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Congratulations How exciting when the planning and futzing over the 
>> bike and parts finally come together. Any changes in parts and such while 
>> thinking over the build? I know when I built the Rivendell Mountain I went 
>> back and forth on several items. Thought of doing an 8 speed freewheel, but 
>> it seemed much when accounting for the hub set up and scarcity of 8 speed 
>> freewheels. Planned on doing a Nitto built Ritchey stem, but going with the 
>> Softride suspension stem was a strong pull. 
>>
>> Take it slow, don't supper force anything. Take it easy with the hammer! 
>> Lol!!!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Reginald Alexis
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>>
>>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've 
>>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be 
>>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>>
>>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I 
>>> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the 
>>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
>>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
>>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>>
>>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and 
>>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>>
>>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>>
>>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>>
>>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Silver Rear Hubs

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I’ve only seen them listed as 36 hole hubs. Is that correct, that there is 
not a 32 hole option?
David Lipsky
On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:43:15 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:

> I built one up in the rear wheel of my Clementine Cargo Cycle with a 
> Velocity Cliffhanger rim. It was a good match, cosmetically, to the 
> Panasonic front dyno hub. Works perfectly so far. I bought two, I haven't 
> built the other one up yet, it will probably get used with a Shutter 
> Precision front dyno hub that I have..
>
> It was about, say, 5% harder to build into a wheel due to the drive side 
> flange being larger than the non-drive side flange - had to flex the 
> non-drive side spokes to get them into the flange, but pretty minor. The 
> larger drive side flange reduces the angle difference between the sides, so 
> the wheel is slightly stronger, and has slightly more even spoke tension 
> between the sides, so a good trade-off.
>
> I say use one, especially if you are using a front dyno hub. When not 
> using a front dyno hub, I prefer my hubs to match, but not everyone feels 
> that way.
>
> [image: hubs.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:49:25 AM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> I couldn’t find a thread where these had been talked about.
>> Has anyone tried the Silver rear hubs & have opinions about them they’d 
>> like to share?
>>
>> Starting to build up my new Sam and am looking into such things.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Some really nice Rivendell wool…

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That was VERY nice! Would have worked with my green Platypus!
When were those made and sold?
David Lipsky
Berkeley

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 2:38:22 PM UTC-8 David Hallerman wrote:

> …for the smaller among us. I love the color, would have bought the jersey 
> if its fit favored my body.
>
> Dave, who has no connection whatsoever with the seller
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155338119505?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=xVErmBxvSyK=2349624=8RYRb3KuTHC=_ver=artemis=COPY
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Kim, that’s from 2021 — One year ago

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:59:27 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know the deadline has come and passed. It does not indicate as to 
> whether or not if this for the Clem Smith Jr. "H" or the "L" version. 
> However, for information reasons:
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/clem-lotto-tickets-on-sale-til-friday-the-15th?_pos=1&_sid=934df0537&_ss=r
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:02:12 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Absolutely. If I could pick one bike to do it all, I’d likely pick up a 
>> Clem L frame. It crosses my mind often actually because I’ve always looked 
>> for the “one” bike to do it all. 
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:57:00 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> VERY interesting! 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I own a 2021 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L". I am just beginning to fully 
>>> appreciate this bicycle beyond it being very comfortable. 
>>>
>>> Awhile back, I asked Will Keating from Rivendell Bicycle Works a 
>>> question about the differences between the Suzie and the Clem.
>>>
>>> He said, "The Susie is longer, has lighter tubing, and is fillet brazed 
>>> (the Clems are tig welded) which makes them more expensive. The Susie also 
>>> fits a slightly bigger tire - Clems max out at around 2.4; Susie fit a 2.6. 
>>> Other than that - they are similar!"
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:11:39 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello! I picked up a Susie in the last run and have been using it as my 
 mountain bike. That said, I have not ridden a suspension bike in quite a 
 while. I did see the email that a second run was going to happen. It was 
 supposed to be spring this year I think but since the ones I got didn’t 
 show up till then I’m sure it will be next year at this point, no mention 
 of them for a while. 

 I haven’t ridden a Clem L so I can’t say, I do have a Clem H though. I 
 love my Clem! The H has a little bit steeper head tube, the new Clem L 
 seems to be a slightly closer spec to a Gus or Susie as far as head tube 
 angle and fork rake. 

 My Susie feels like riding on a cloud compared to the Clem and I don’t 
 think it is just the tire size but I’m sure it plays a good part of it. 
 The 
 extra height of the BB on the Susie is very welcome in the chunky stuff as 
 well. The tubes on the Susie feel full of like and spring forward when I 
 get on it. I ride the Clem daily towing my daughter around and it is 
 perfect for that. Load the Clem up with whatever and it is stable as can 
 be. The Susie has more flex. Not sure if a Gus feels stiffer but I love 
 the 
 way the Susie rides. 

 My Clem has an albatross bar and I have bosco’s on the Susie. So not a 
 fair comparison in upright sitting. The Susie is very upright and my Clem 
 not so much. Funny thing, I thought I was faster on the Clem. This week I 
 am using the Susie and I’m actually slightly faster on it while feeling 
 like I’m not working as hard. According to my gps data on my usual daily 
 routes. Only 2 days so far so I’ll see if that holds true all week. 

 You won’t match a full squish bike on a Gus or Susie but the riding is 
 still a blast! Just different. I had a jones LWB complete and I would 
 definitely recommend the Susie over that. Jones makes a great bike in 
 theory, but I think they (the completes at least) are wastefully 
 overbuilt. 
 It was several lbs heavier than my Susie and the slowest I have ever been 
 while riding a bike. My Susie has a more plush ride than the Jones did and 
 is a better ride in all ways.

 Not sue I’ve said anything useful in my rambling but I highly recommend 
 the Susie! I’m sure the Gus is equally awesome though! I think if you have 
 your Clem set up for commuting and the Gus/Susie set up for trails there 
 isn’t too much of an overlap to justify one. 

 On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Greetings all. First, does anyone recall reading in one of the updates 
> about additional Susie / Gus bikes becoming available?
> Second, who is using their Susie / Gus as their primary mountain bike?
> Third, is anyone able to comments on a direct comparison between a 
> Susie and a Clem L?
> My Clem never ceases to amaze me. It is, without doubt the most 
> comfortable bike I have ever owned. I am so ingrained to my position on 
> the 
> bike that I am now uncomfortable on my dedicated singletrack bike - a 
> full 
> suspension bike with relatively strait handlebars. The Clem is really 
> good 
> off road and on mild singletrack, but its weight and 

Re: [RBW] help identify a small part and a source for it

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Although I think the brass washers with raw metal frame would look great, 
I’ve taken a different approach to rear fender attachment to the chain stay 
bridge.

My solution has been to buy a hardware store variety-pack of plumbing 
washers. There are usually multiples of several types and the cylindrical 
or conical ones work well and often have an M5 or M4 size hole through the 
center.

I sandwich the fender material between two washers and put an M4 or M5 bolt 
through them and the chain-stay bridge with a Nylock nut at one end.

The compressible washers provide a yielding surface that is a bit 
friendlier to plastic (and, I’d assume aluminum) fenders, in the long run.

I’d include some pictures but I’m on the east coast while my bikes are in 
Berkeley. Will try to repost once I’m back home.

David Lipsky

PS: Found a photo of that area on my errand bike. Two conical washers on 
one side, a cylindrical and a flat stainless under the bolt head. Difficult to 
attach from iPad….
On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 5:27:06 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> I use these nylon spacers from Ace Hardware, though the link is for 
> Granger  Spacers - Grainger Industrial Supply 
> 
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:17:04 PM UTC-7 J J wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mike and Eric!
>>
>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 2:26:52 PM UTC-4 eric swain wrote:
>>
>>> Serrated brake caliper washer. Most shops should have them. Presta valve 
>>> nuts would work for your application as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.benscycle.com/tektro-serrated-brake-washer--6-1x13-3-sb-silver-caliper-brake-part-tektro-24558-br7205/p?idsku=632011=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo9dCDIEVn6kOCMX9vv3ySQKzgF2rR0IYMRmsnXOH7KsAyqFBGbCQSxoCRhMQAvD_BwE
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 8:42:29 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>>
 Looks like the concave washers that come on most brake pad hardware. 
 The LBS may have a pile of them. Or buy cheap brake pads just for the 
 washers.

 Robert Tilley
 San Diego, CA

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 20, 2022, at 7:35 PM, J J  wrote:

 [image: washers spacers knurled.JPG]


 I’ve tried in vain to find these locally. I ask for “funky textured 
 lock washers/spacers” but folks in local shops look at me funny even when 
 I 
 show them the attached pic. So my terminology is clearly technically 
 incorrect! It’s a mystery. Riv used many of them on this Glorius build. 
 I’d 
 very much appreciate help knowing what they’re called and where I can 
 procure some. They do their job very well. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Differences between Sam Hillborne and A Homer Hilsen

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not sure that it is totally definitive but I expect the Toyo AHH to have 
three water bottle boss pairs and the Waterford to have two pairs (none 
under the down tube).

David Lipsky

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 7:11:42 PM UTC-7 James wrote:

> I have an older AHH.  Anyone know how I can tell if it's Toyo or Waterford 
> made?
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:52:35 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> I had an older MUSA AHH 61 (2006-ish?) and a Taiwan Sam 62 (2015-ish) 
>> with 2TT and for a brief spell I also had a 2TT 58. All of them were 700C. 
>> I should also say that they are all gone at this point, nothing wrong with 
>> them except my own unnecessary searching for the next shiny object.
>>
>> Both are amazing frames and can be set up very similarly - I think your 
>> tires, racks and handlebars would probably determine the feel and ride more 
>> than the frame geo, tubing or anything else.
>>
>> Some details on the way mine were set up: both had front and rear racks, 
>> sidepull brakes and short stems:
>> AHH 700x38 + dropbars
>> SH 62  700x44 + dropbars
>> SH 58 700x42 + Albatross
>>
>> It has been said that the Sam is burlier or that the tubing on the Homer 
>> is slightly lighter and the lugs are more elegant. To me, they were both 
>> equally capable, perhaps the 2TT Sam felt a tad stiffer particularly when 
>> loaded, but it certainly didn't feel slower. Also, at no point did I feel 
>> like my AHH couldn't carry as much as the Sam. 
>>
>> Are you trying to decide which one you'd buy? If so, I would choose based 
>> on availability, color, badge, name, which one do you find more beautiful? 
>> Oh and sizing: which one fits you better? If you can find a frame where you 
>> fall in the middle of the suggested PBH range for either the Sam or the AHH 
>> I would choose that.
>>
>> Not sure if this helps, but I think Grant said it best when he said it 
>> was hard to tell one from the other when you were riding them.
>>
>> Best.
>> Max
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Grossman
>>>
>>> What made your the Roadini a superior all around bike compared your 
>>> AHH-MUSA/MUJ  ???   Was the Roadini more lively, handle better, ride 
>>> better, or something else???   It seems the Roadini is more a pure road 
>>> bike vs the all around nature of the AHH.Just curious.
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown  NJ
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:25:19 PM UTC-4 Dave Grossman wrote:
>>>
 I have an older Homer (not sure if it is Waterford or Toyo but I'd like 
 to know actually) and having owned a Roadini I can say I find it a much 
 superior all around bike.  I hadn't considered a Sam since I have a Hunq 
 but I can do light touring and backpacking with my Homer if I desire.  I 
 rotate it in my commuter stable with the Hunq and I end up riding it quite 
 often.  I currently have it set up with Crust Towel bars (with a large 
 Fabs 
 in the middle!), VO fenders, and 44s.  I have it maxed out, but it is such 
 a great ride.  I've thought about getting a stripped road bike but the 
 Homer is so versatile.  I think if I didn't have the Hunq, I'd be more 
 inclined to get a Sam.  But if you already have a hauler an older Homer is 
 the way to go.  I have a 63, which I am on the small side for with a 90 
 pbh, but it fits great and I love the ride.  My Hunq is a 58 and while I 
 can clear a 62 (I've ridden the 62 before) I love having the clearance 
 that 
 a slightly smaller frame allows for the rough stuff.  

 On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 4:27:16 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:

> Just to be more confusing, I have a circa 2012 Homer, and I believe 
> the even sizes are 650b and the odd sizes are 700c, so there was some 
> overlap within some of the sizes.  I have a 54 cm AHH 650b, and I believe 
> the 55 cm and 57 cm were 700c, while the 56 cm was 650b.  
>
> My Homer maxed out at 38 mm tires + fenders--I've used Parimoto, 
> Lierre, GravelKing, and Soma Xpress, and all are good for me (depending 
> upon the application, eg. commute vs fast ride).  My favorite tire size 
> for 
> 650b is 42 mm, and I believe the Sam H can ride those with fenders, so I 
> might lean that direction if I had to choose.  
>
> Toshi
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best all-around useful saddlebag?

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Got this today in email from Acorn bags:

*Hi everyone,*

*Our BLACK WAXED CANVAS 

 bags 
will be restocked—in limited quantities—this Wednesday, August 31, at 
approx. 9am Pacific Time. 
(Please note that our upcoming Trunk Bag is not 
included in this batch.) *
*https://www.acornbags.com*

I have a few of the medium Acorn saddle bags and like them a lot for their 
size, waxed canvas material and construction. The larger, transverse 
version looks good but I have no experience with it. 
The old Swift, small Zeitgeist is a big improvement over the Carradice 
Barley I have and my small BxB "Nino" is beautifully designed and made.
I have the Outer Shell Basket Bag but I don't use a basket. It mounts 
nicely on a front rack, especially one of the wider ones and has a lot of 
structure. It is really well thought out with a lot of features. 
I usually leave the side stiffeners in the bag but not in their 
compartments. It allows the bag to be more compact and carried more easily 
if not full.

David Lipsky  - -  Berkeley, CA

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 11:57:49 AM UTC-7 velomann wrote:

> My name is Mike and I have a bike luggage problem...
>
> I own many of the bags already mentioned and a couple not discussed yet so 
> here's my 2-cents:
>
> I currently have 3 Swift Zeitgeist bags - a first generation in custom 
> colors and a couple newer ones, and for a good, durable, fairly lightweight 
> saddlebag they are fantastic. My only (very minor) complaint is that the 
> newer ones take longer to get in and out of - there's the outer 2 buckles, 
> an inner buckled cinch strap, and the cord-lock bag cinch. The older models 
> didn't have the single inner cinch strap, which is otherwise an improvement 
> as it pulls the bottom of the bag up some, depending on how loaded it is. I 
> do wish they still shipped with the leather buckle straps instead of the 
> Voile straps everyone (except Carradice and Acorn) seems to be going to 
> these days, but I may be in the minority with that opinion. I also own a 
> Swift Catalyst, and if you want a bag smaller than the Zeitgeist and can do 
> without the side pockets, it's basically a smaller Zeitgeist (Swift used to 
> make the Zeitgeist in 2 sizes). One advantage to the Catalyst - Swift's 
> intention I think - is that the Catalyst mounts well to even fairly narrow 
> handlebars too. Someone mentioned MUSA as a plus on Swift bags, but last 
> year they switched production overseas to standard bags in standard colors, 
> which I assume means the Zeitgeist is now sewn in Asia.
>
> I also own 2 Carradice bags, a Camper Longflap and Nelson Longflap. The 
> Camper was my first touring saddlebag and has thousands of miles in 
> year-round PNW  commuting and other than fading is still in great shape. 
> The waxed canvas is heavier than the Swift bags, but that's never been an 
> issue for me, and the longflap is incredibly useful when overfilling the 
> bag or strapping a sleeping pad or tent or fly rod to the bag.
>
> I own a large Fabios Chest - from when they were still made by Swift - and 
> it's like a super-sized version of the Zeitgeist with a rolltop instead of 
> cordlock cinch AND a longflap. If one was looking for a true 
> load-everything-including-the-kitchen-sink bag this would be the one. FYI I 
> run it on the front (Jones Bars) of my Bantam AdventureBike, and with a 
> Carradice Longflap on the rear and a couple fork-mounted King Manything 
> cages I can carry all my bikepacking gear without an inner triangle frame 
> bag (I hate frame bags).
>
> Another bag I REALLY like is the locally made (Portland area) Jack Supply 
> Slugger bag. https://www.jacksupplyco.com/ Similar to the Swift Zeitgeist 
> but with a rolltop closure, extendable flap, and more exterior lash points. 
> I've also run this as a handlebar bag, though I prefer the Little Slugger 
> for that use. And these definitely are MUSA.
>
> Finally, the OP mentioned running a Wald basket and looking for a 
> saddlebag as well. I use a Swift Sugarloaf in one Wald basket, and an 
> Outershell Basket-bag https://outershell.com/shop/137-basket-bag in the 
> other. The thing I like about the Basket-bag is that it's basically a rando 
> bag for your basket, with a lid that opens out so you can access the 
> interior while riding, and a clear map pocket. Also MUSA (California) and 
> really thoughtfully designed and well-made.
>
> Final note - I'm smallish and ride smallish frames, and for ALL the 
> saddlebags mentioned I run some kind of support rack - Erlen, Nitto, 
> Bagman, Tailfeather 
> http://derick-paulson.squarespace.com/tailfeather/tailfeather, And the 
> Fabs chest on my Bantam is supported by a front rack custom made for that 
> bike.
>
> Many of the setups can be seen on my Flickr pages 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums
>
> Mike M
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:20:56 PM UTC-7 

[RBW] Re: FS Sackville HB bag, Nitto F15, Small Trunksac.

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My favorite handle bar bag -- Love the magnetic closure for the main flap!
Great deal for this setup!
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 3:40:58 PM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:

> Everything is in excellent condition. Not a lot of use. Leather has been 
> treated with Obenaufs.
> I want to sell these as set. Asking  $220 net to me. I'll cover the 
> shipping in the CONUS. PM me if you're interested.
> Thanks,
> Frank
>
> [image: P1020323.JPG]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Double Cranks 42/26

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Deepak,
I've sent you an email.
What length arms are the cranks? (This number will be stamped into the back 
of each arm.)
Thanks much,
David dot Lipsky at Me dot com

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 9:47:27 AM UTC-7 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am seeing if I get any interest for my RH cranks currently on my homer. 
> I reckon it has around 400 miles on it. I am hoping to sell it for $300 
> excluding shipping. I am based out of east bay CA, so local pick up is fine 
> as well. Outer ring is 42 and inner is 26
>
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/cranks/rh-double-crank/
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

New title fixes the Appaloosa spelling. (Nonetheless, Rivendell is spelled 
three different ways!)
Probably a good deal if the big Sackville and a rack come with it!
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-appaloosa-46cm/7486742585.html
David
Berkeley

On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 5:17:30 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> In case you missed it, a misspelled "46cm rivendale apolusa", SF gregslist.
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-46cm-rivendale-apolusa/7481031255.html
>
> [image: 00t0t_7y44sGOHEg8z_0CI0t2_1200x900.jpg]
>  
>
> On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:12 PM Jason  wrote:
>
>> Sam Hillborne
>> 60cm
>> $1,000
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1162024001299575/
>> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 2:36:24 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Sam Hillborne frame, fork, headset
>>> 62cm
>>> $1,100
>>> Havre de Grace, MD
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/758797715280300/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>>
>>> [image: 281757366_5077936658980492_8181435420314547667_n.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 1:59:13 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
 Hubbuhubbuh
 "Large"
 $3,200 
 Washington, DC

 https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/bik/d/washington-large-rivendell-hubbuhubbah/7484571735.html

 [image: 00303_1KYarzNVztQz_0jC0eI_600x450.jpg]

 On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:09:59 AM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clementine 
> 52cm 
> 2000 
> San Antonio, TX 
>
> https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/bik/d/san-antonio-rivendell-clementine/7485092392.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow, that head badge "POPS"!

- David
On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 7:45:54 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Beautiful
>
> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:13:20 AM UTC-4 Erik wrote:
>
>> Well, if anyone was curious what the Gus would look like in Mermaid...the 
>> Blue Lug builds are starting to pop up on IG.  That is a seriously 
>> beautiful bike.  Can't wait for that phone call! 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2622.jpeg]
>> [image: IMG_2621.jpeg]
>> [image: IMG_2623.jpeg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Carradice Bagman/SQR Questions

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

re the Bagman: 16 mm of rail space is needed. The QR version only varies in 
that the top piece has an extension to the rear that holds the QR mechanism 
which takes the place of the saddle loops.
I have both a small BXB and a Zeitgeist and the straps that hold the flap 
down can be passed out, up and over the Bagman loop which stops the saddle 
bag from moving. And the bag's seat post strap usually attaches to the 
Bagman loop where it transitions from vertical to horizontal so that's an 
additional anchor point.
re the SQR mount: You do have to have about 4" of exposed seat post to 
attach the "block" that it uses. You can get away with less -- as little as 
2" is contacting the seatpost -- but it depends on the top of the seat 
cluster shape below and the bottom side of the seat post clamp above.
David Lipsky
Berkeley
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 3:27:56 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

>
>  
> For the Bagman support, how much open saddle rail space is required to 
> mount behind the seatpost clamp ?  Metric millimeters would be great. 
>
>In regards to the SQR mount, how much space is required for the block 
> itself on the seatpost, and how tall overall is the block ?  
>
>In regards to the bags for the Bagman, what prevents the contents 
> drooping from sides of the bags , and does the bag move around much when 
> out of the saddle with lots of lateral motion ? 
>
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Re: [RBW] Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

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Overheard — A regular customer standing at the front display counter in 
venerable, high end bike shop to the shop manager: ‘Hey, you used to have 
some nice Chris King hubs in there but I don’t see them now. What happened?

Manager: ‘Yeah, we did, but we had to remove them. They were keeping all 
the other hubs up at night!’

[budda bum!]

David Lipsky (Slightly annoyed by his Pacenti rear wheel’s freehub while 
riding in mid-70s weather today) in Berkeley, CA


On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:20:52 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I definitely don’t have that many miles on them  I’m still less than 1,000 
> miles on both of mine. I need to get out more…
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:45 PM, Mr. Ray  wrote:
>
> "My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like 
> the hubs".
>
>
>
> This means you haven't put enough miles on them.  After 20,000 miles, they 
> are silent.
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:09:58 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> I prefer quiet hubs which is why I typically stick to Shimano. You can 
>> hear them if you try but it’s not overwhelming. It seems like there is no 
>> mechanical benefit from the extra noise so there is no need for me to 
>> switch.
>>
>> My Rohloff’s are louder than I like but I put up with it since I like the 
>> hubs.
>>
>> Robert a Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy 
>> schmancy White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz 
>> was the cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing 
>> all the neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip 
>> and cool and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>>
>>
>> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Bagman quick-release brackets and adapters

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The stiffness inherent in the leather straps that come with most saddle 
bags is usually sufficient to create a semi-permanent loop protruding from 
the bag (with buckles on the inside). If that is the case, I've found that 
I can more easily attach that bag than if I'm using one with the Bagman 
black plastic adapter piece in place. The adapter requires a more precise 
alignment to allow the two sprung pins to slide "home." 
And, as all the pieces are black, I have trouble seeing the alignment. It's 
easier to see what's happening with just the straps there and you can hook 
up one loop at a time.
If you still have the straps, try it!
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 7:52:33 PM UTC-8 Robert Hakim wrote:

> I have the QR bag support, but I snapped the plastic bit that attaches to 
> the bag. Do you know if it is possible to source just the plastic piece? I 
> would hate to have to spend $50 on the whole bundle when the majority of it 
> would go unused.
>
> -Robert
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 3:30:28 PM UTC-8 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> bump. $45 each, shipping included.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 12:16:16 PM UTC-6 Jim S. wrote:
>>
>>> I have three of these for sale. $50 each, shipping included. 
>>>
>>> You get both the bracket, and new adapters and big thick zipties that 
>>> attach the adapter to your saddle bag so that it fits the quick-release 
>>> bracket. These work great, if you have a saddle bag that you want to easily 
>>> switch among bikes, or if you have a saddle bag that you remove when you 
>>> reach your destination.
>>>
>>> Here's a pretty good product description:
>>>
>>> https://www.perennialcycle.com/bagman-quick-release-clamp.html
>>>
>>> Please note: these are not Bagman Expeditions. That is, there is no 
>>> metal support piece that your saddle bag rests on. I think these are most 
>>> useful if you have a rear rack that your saddle bag can rest on.
>>>
>>> Here are photos:
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/oBtUWJnL2qvhdj5e7
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55cm HillborneW

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Hey Ahmed,
I'd agree with Bill: Put another saddle on (And, raise the seat post at 
least two cm!) -- A Berthoud is worth too much and they are quite 
individual. 
Take the basket and rack off -- They obscure the view of the front and 
represent one use of the bike that may narrow it down too much. 
And, pull the bags off and offer them separately. 
Now you can offer the more essential Sam.
Turn it around and get a front quarter picture and then a full drive side 
picture of the bike. (NO coffee cup!!)
I'd be interested but I think I'd go for a 51cm/650b frame.
David in Berkeley (Who is happy with your old 55cm Roadeo!)

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Can’t remember off hand but I’ll take a pic and upload later today. Thank 
> you!
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:33 AM steve  wrote:
>
>> What stem shifters are on the Sam?
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>
>>> Possibly. What exactly are you looking for? and at what price range?
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:04 AM Brady Smith  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ahmed, 

 Any chance you'd consider parting it out or just selling the rolling 
 chassis? 

 Brady in SLC

 On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 8:27:27 AM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Thanks for the advice Bill. I’ll think on that. 
>
> Best
> A
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:16 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Ahmed is selling a $2900 Hillborne.  
>>
>> I notice you have a super expensive saddle on the bike.  If you sold 
>> the bike with no saddle, you could drop the price.  If you don't like 
>> the 
>> saddle, maybe you could sell the saddle separately which could also 
>> lower 
>> the price of the remaining build.  You could do something similar with 
>> the 
>> front rack, which is pretty valuable, and desirable, and currently sold 
>> out 
>> at Riv.  
>>
>> I mention this because over on iBob, a poster is requesting to buy a 
>> Berthoud Aubisque saddle, in any color, before going and paying full 
>> retail.  If your Berthoud saddle is an Aubisque, maybe you could sell it 
>> separately.  Most buyers of used bikes expect to BYO pedals and saddle.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's try this again
>>> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity 
>>> Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto 
>>> seatpost 
>>> and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with 
>>> stem 
>>> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on 
>>> it. 
>>> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and 
>>> prefer 
>>> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on 
>>> Craigslist. 
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
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[RBW] Re: Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm surprised that the Sam seems to weigh less than the Homer!
Were the 2015 Sam's made in Taiwan?
I have a 56 cm Toyo Homer which must be a lighter frame and fork. And, it 
has lighter Pacenti Brevet wheels with Paris-Moto tubed tires. When I 
weighed it a few years ago (get on digital bathroom scale with bike, weigh 
again without, subtract) it had a Mark's rack, two Iris cages and a 
Carradice SQR block (only) on the seat post, (might have had a Terry 
"Liberator" saddle) = 24.5 lbs. Added a Topeak pump and it was 25.4 lbs. I 
don't think it had fenders. It does now and I need to check which saddle, 
so I should reweigh it.
David Lipsky
Berkeley

On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 9:34:47 AM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:

> While we’re going "arg!"...
> A number of threads have asked, and one of the questions could be answered 
> just by hanging a bike on the scale at your LBS.
>
> I was hoping Leah would weigh Peppermint Platy before and after her build, 
> but I guess that’s OBE.
> How about somebody go weigh their Clem, and somebody go weigh their 
> Gus/Susie, and somebody go weigh their Platypus - and report back?
>
> Whether bike weight actually makes a difference or not, there seems to be 
> a conspiracy about not reporting Rivendell bike weights.
> We’ve had people talk about getting them up a flight of stairs, or hanging 
> them on a rack, but nobody actually puts out a number.
>
> I’ll start.  Here’s mine:
> 2015 Sam, size 55, as supplied by Rivendell:
> Bar end shifters, Suguino XD2 triple crank, FD-3030 front, Atlas 700c 
> wheels, Conti SpeedRide tubed tires, Shimano RD-M591 rear, Shimano R550 
> levers, Tektro R-559 brakes, cork grips.
> Add a Serfas RX-921V saddle, Blackspire pedals, Zefal fenders, and a bell.
> 29 pounds, 3 oz
>
> Add a Blackburn EX-1 rack and BCC 12.12 computer and my typical riding 
> weight comes in a just a smidge under 30.5 pounds.
>
> A Homer, size 51, set up exactly the same way except Deore FC-M590 crank 
> and FD-M610 derailleur came in at 29 pounds 14 oz.  Smaller bike, thinner 
> tubing, lighter crank.
>
> It’s not a Susie or a Clem or a Platy, but it is a data point.  Next time 
> at your LBS, take one minute and have them weigh your bike.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Phone holder preferences - Quad Lock Sale

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For those of you interested (Quad Lock Curious), I balked at the price of 
the QL and accessories for a few years then got one on a Black Friday Sale 
last year. 
Really good system; I like it.
That time is here again: Black Friday (early) and they've sent out the 
notice of 30% off:
Check out https://www.quadlockcase.com/
BTW, the little kickstand/finger loop accessory (that you might not notice 
on the site) has been very useful to me. The bump/socket on the back 
otherwise destabilizes the case when you set the phone down on a flat 
surface.

David (no connection to QL) Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-7 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Thank you David. Been using one now for a few weeks and love it.
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 6:01 PM David Person  wrote:
>
>> Robert, I just updated a post I had done on the Quad Lock mount on my 
>> Albatross bars. FWIW.
>
>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 9:00:34 AM UTC-7 Robert Blunt wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you everybody. I will be rendering  quad lock this week!
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Blunt
>>> Pennington, NJ
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:34 AM Tim Rogers <97r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Quad lock ... especially if you are moving phone between bikes. I have 
 a mount on my Clem and on my recumbent and it doesn't get any easier. Rock 
 solid connection and the case only adds a bit of depth to the phone 
 itself. 

 On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 7:25:24 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> Another vote for the Quadlock. I use their out-front mount and attach 
> my headlight to the GoPro mount underneath. Never had any problems with 
> the 
> mount in several years of use over all sorts of road surfaces.
> [image: PXL_20210615_001940747.jpg]
>
> Nick
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[RBW] Re: WTB: rack for platypus

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I've been looking at the Simworks Obento rack, also made by Nitto. 
Theoretically available in silver or black but rare right now.
Here's a picture of one with Wald basket: 
https://thepsychicderailleur.com/product/sim-works-obento-rack/
(He has them in black)
More svelte and about $100 less than the RBW rack (which I have on my 
Appaloosa and it is pretty big).
For silver, ...you'll have to wait for them to make more  
Best,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi friends, I'm looking for a rack that's suitable for my size 50 
> platypus, which will be here on Tuesday! I'm especially interested in the 
> Rivendell nitto rack that's currently out of stock, but I'm open to others. 
> TIA!

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[RBW] Re: Soma Fab 15% Off Everything Ends Today

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They just (5:24 pm PST on Monday) sent out this message:



*SALE EXTENDED till Tuesday, because we set the promo code incorrectly.Our 
apologies.Please use Promo Code "siskiyou15" for discount.*
Lower case was used in this email.
And, If you support Russ at "Path Less Pedaled" via Patreon you'll get a 
20% off coupon to use anytime
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 8:24:38 AM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow thank you, Paul! (goes shopping...)
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 9:55:27 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have one of the Cardiff saddles but with minor use and no useful Brooks 
>> comparison. Mine wasn't quite assembled right and I had to bend one of the 
>> parts into place. The light brown is a nice honey color. I still haven't 
>> found the saddle "for me" so it's a out as good as any other I've tried. 
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking at the saddles that Soma offers and saw the Cardiff 
>>> Harlech leather saddle. Does anyone here have experience with these 
>>> especially in comparison with a Brooks saddle?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Good to know! Thanks Paul.
 Doug
 Athens, GA

 On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 8:23:55 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> Meant to forward this info when it first hit, but forgot. No 
> affilliation.
>
> Soma's got 15% off everything in-store, ends today.
>
>
> http://secure.campaigner.com/csb/Public/show/4rbx-2gdgh4--wkx7s-1r2oa6i8
>
> "Sale Ends 10/11/21 Must use Promo Code "siskiyou15" for discount."  
>
> I was waiting/hoping for one of these before buying a new Champs d'etc 
> fork, but that horse left the barn back in June/July.
>
> Just a reminder to shop responsibly... 
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

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Ahmed, I am forever in your debt for allowing me to wheedle it away from 
you!
It is truly a lovely bike!
Thanks much,
David

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 6:01:10 PM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Nice ride David! :-)
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 5:55 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's mine, a 55cm frame; The bike was put together by Rivendell. I 
>> acquired it second-hand in March of this year. Nobilette built in late 2019.
>> It is a very responsive frame, especially compared to the current long 
>> chain stay models. 
>> Photo was taken west of Healdsburg on a hilly ride to the Russian River.
>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA
>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 4:00:25 PM UTC-7 Austin B. wrote:
>>
>>> @Tim: Measurements from my 63cm Roadeo:
>>>
>>> HT length: 215mm
>>> Saddle Height: 83.5
>>>
>>> Happy to take any other pics/measurements if you need.
>>>
>>> -Austin
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 5:19:43 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim,
>>>>
>>>> I missed the saddle height question.  My saddle height is 81.5cm.   
>>>>
>>>> Matt in OKC.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 12:59:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This 
>>>>> gives me something to go on as I contemplate one for myself. 
>>>>>
>>>>> To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me 
>>>>> know the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the 
>>>>> photos 
>>>>> you shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the 
>>>>> bars up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then 
>>>>> my Sam. Thanks!
>>>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even 
>>>>>> longer, but it is what it is. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I 
>>>>>> was thinking 853? 
>>>>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>> peterso...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_5468.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. 
>>>>>>>> Like some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road 
>>>>>>>> bike". This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. 
>>>>>>>> Shoes and clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no 
>>>>>>>> racks 
>>>>>>>> and just a x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic 
>>>>>>>> road 
>>>>>>>> bike! It rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless 
>>>>>>>> tires 
>>>>>>>> and I find it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy 
>>>>>>>> going up 
>>>>>>>> hill but I'm willing to live with that. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
>>>>>>>> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit 
>>>>>>>> down 
>>>>>>>> but at least I'll always have the Sam. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Sackville Question?

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Here's an example of the kind of standoff that Patrick is describing, made 
by Acorn in SoCal:
   https://www.acornbags.com/products/leather-stand-off-with-strap
Their strap is 11 ½" but this will depend on the length of the standoff.
Here's a saddlebag rack from Ocean Air by Nitto. It integrates with the 
seat post saddle clamp and will keep the bag back away from your legs and 
hold it steady:
  
 
https://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/erlen-saddle-bag-support-nitto-production
There are other Nitto models (Riv Mark's & RBW51, R14 and R10) that attach 
to the bike but are out of stock or relatively rare, at least in this 
country.
The Carradice Bagman supports will NOT work cleanly as they assume a 
barrel-shaped saddle bag. (The Slim Sucker has a flat bottom.)
David Lipsky, Berkeley
On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:15:09 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> If you find you need a standoff, I *may* still have one of the chi chi 
> leather ones I bought some years ago that hold the back of the bag off the 
> seatpost by about 5 cm. If you do find you want one, I'll send you one 
> gratis, as I no longer need mine. 
>
> You will need an extra-long strap to go from bag through standoff around 
> post back through standoff and back to bag; IIRC, about 12" though the 
> straps that came with the standoff were, IIRC, 16". I do want to keep the 
> straps for myself, though.
>
> They're very nice; thick, good quality, well-joined leather; I forget who 
> made them.
>
> *If* you need it! I've kept them because they're pretty and who knows, 
> one day ...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 8:23 PM Ben Mihovk  wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>> Thanks for the thoughts. The squeaking definitely seems to be leather on 
>> leather…I’ve got the saddle loop straps as tight as they’ll go.
>>
>> I’ll try pulling the seat post strap with pliers…I’m REALLY close to 
>> being able to buckle it. 
>>
>> I love the way the bag looks and how much I can fit enough that I’m going 
>> to keep it and see. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 6:17 PM Ben Mihovk  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>> I just received a beautiful royal blue Slimsucker today from Riv 
>>> and...well...I don't know about it. I have three issues that are making me 
>>> think about contacting Riv for a return.
>>>
>>> 1. It's really squeaky...I'm assuming the brand new leather will soften 
>>> and chill out a bit and be quiet eventually. Have other people noticed this 
>>> when their bags are new? I have two x-small bags that I have been using and 
>>> I can't remember whether they squeaked or not.
>>>
>>
>> What is squeaking, the bag against itself or the bag against the bike? If 
>> the former, I'd guess it will eventually shut up. If the latter, I'd guess 
>> that the bag could be more tightly strapped to the bike. (See #3.)
>>
>> I've owned 3 Sackvilles, 1 M and 2 L, or v versa, as well as at least 2 
>> dozen other transverse saddlebags, and I don't recall any of them 
>> squeaking; that is to say, either they didn't squeak or it was small enough 
>> that I didn't notice it.
>>
>>>
>>> 2. I wasn't fully prepared for the thigh rub...I put the bag on my bike, 
>>> put my computer, a couple books, laptop charger, etc... in it and rode up 
>>> the block and back and I'm not a fan of that feeling of the bag touching 
>>> the backs of my thighs. Has anyone else been rubbed the wrong way (sorry) 
>>> at first but kind of stopped noticing it after a while?
>>>
>>
>> Again, at least 27 bags, very probably more over the 30 + years, all or 
>> almost all of which hit the back of my thighs to one degree or another, and 
>> -- personal sensitivity -- I didn't notice it after about 1/4 mile. 
>>
>> Note that most of the saddlebags I've used (besides 3 Sackvilles and 3-4 
>> Bagginses) have been Carradices or clones, which IME hit the legs more; 
>> again, for me at least, this was not in any way a bother or even really 
>> noticeable.
>>
>> But you can make or buy standoffs. 
>>  
>>
>>> 3. The leather strap to secure it to my seatpostI need the third 
>>> hole to be *just* a little closer. If I use the second hole, it's not 
>>> tight and the bag swings front to back. The leather used on these bags is 
>>> excellent so I know that I could probably punch a new hole in the strap (if 
>>> I keep the bag), but does anyone have any suggestions that I might not be 
>>> thinking of? 
>>>
>>
>> I like bags tightly strapped; I always cinch the saddle straps and the 
>> seatpost strap extra tight using pliers, If need be, I pull very tightly 
>> and make an extra, in-between hole between the 2 (stretched) holes on 
>> either side. Note that new leather will stretch permanently to a degree 
>> after a while.
>>
>> Oh, and I always cover the inside of the seatpost strap buckle rivet with 
>> a small patch of leather so it doesn't scratch the seatpost.
>>
>> Upshot: I'd say: get all the 

[RBW] Re: Parts bin clean out: Nitto S65, Shimano derailers, R599 front brakes, Schwalbe G-one Speed tires, ergon, pletscher, sunrace

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Email sent on MKS pedals, Alivio rear and Ergon grips.
What size G-One Speed tires?
Thanks,
David Lipsky
Berkeley

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 10:15:49 AM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> These are all bits that were on or meant for my Rivendells (Sam, Cheviot, 
> Rosco Baby) or similar bikes (Jamis steel frame bikes since donated to 
> friends). Links to Craigslist posts with some more details and PHOTOS. 
> Price is before shipping, local pick up (in SF Bay Area, *Napa*, Sonoma, 
> or Berkeley) is preferred. 
>
> Make me an offer for multiples or if my prices seem off. 
>
> Seat Post: Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2mm x 250mm long - zig zag marks on 
> the lower half of the post from inserting/removing it. *($40* 
> 
> *)*
>
> Cassettes:  
> 
>
>- Sunrace MX8 NEW 11 speed, Silver, 11-46t ($60)
>- Shimano LIKE NEW CS-HG200, 9-Speed, 11-32 teeth *($10)*
>
> Bike Mirror 
> 
> : Mirrycle Mountain *($7* 
> 
> *)*
>
> Bottom brackets:  
> 
>
>- *2 x *Shimano UN55 
>
> 
> - 68 x 110mm  
>
> 
>*($15)*
>- Tange BB 68 x 107mm - *($* 
>
> *1
>  
>with any other item)*
>
> Tektro Cable Hanger, *new* in the bag, 1" with barrel adjuster, 
> cantilever *($6* 
> 
> *)*
>
> Derailers: 
> 
>
>- Shimano Tiagra 
>
> 
>  Silver RD-4500 
>9-speed long cage *($15)* - if this fits your cassette or you want to 
>use with a roadlink extender, it's a very nice polished looking derailer, 
>I'd use a melamine sponge to remove the branding for full silver polished 
>look.
>- Alivio rear RD-M4000 -  
>
> 
>*($15)* - came off a nearly unused Kona Coco, nice chain wrap and gear 
>range.
>- Suntour front derailer double road - worked nicely to shift a 46/30t 
>double crankset. *($5)*
>
> Delta Cycle Stem Raiser Riser Pro Extender Head Up *($10* 
> 
> *)*
>
> MKS large toe clips pair - straps and bolts included *($15)* 
> 
> MKS Sylvian touring pedals 9/16” *($20* 
> 
> *)*
>
> TwoFish The Quick Vinyl Coated Cage *($10* 
> 
> *)*
>
> JTEK ShiftMate 6 - cable pull modifier *($40* 
> 
> *)* - This model is for mating Shimano shifters with SRAM 1:1 derailleurs 
> or SRAM non-road shifters with Shimano derailleurs. It will also let you 
> run Shimano 10 speed road STI with Shimano MTN 10 Dyna-Sys derailleurs and 
> Shimano or SRAM cassettes.
>
> Sunrace v-brake levers silver from Rivendell *($20* 
> 
> *)* - V-brake linear pull levers. *Silver* model from Sunrace make for 
> Rivendell. Nearly new looking. Came on the used set of Tosco bars from 
> Rivendell a couple months ago. 
>
> Brakes: 
> 
>
>- Tektro r559 - *two* FRONT brakes, side pull dual pivot caliper 
>brakes. Recessed nut. Come with Kool Stop inserts in Tektro holders. *$30 
>each.*
>- Tektro Oryx - front and rear pairs, cantilever brakes. Pulled from 
>2008 Jamis Aurora. Newer pads. Straddle wires and yokes (Dia Compe) 
>included. *(one bike's worth of brakes, two pairs for $15).*
>- Dia Compe Direct Pull 7 - pair of brake levers. *$5*
>- V-brake pair: Tektro Quartz MT 10 and Avid Single Digit 7. Come with 
>pads and I’ll throw in an extra pair of fresher pads. *$15 (1 bike's 
>worth of brakes)*
>
> SKS P45 Fenders - 

[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud, Ostrich, Thomson, Paul

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sent a PM regarding #2 (Mini 86) and #3 (Klikfix support)
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 12:52:04 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> I sent a PM regarding item 5 (Paul Thumbies).  Thanks,
>
> Jeff Arita
> Claremont, CA
>
> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 12:35:36 PM UTC-7 Ed Felker wrote:
>
>> Here are bags and parts that need to go. The bags were on occasional-use 
>> bikes. Photos here: https://bit.ly/3iLxVuA
>>
>> Details: Prices do not include actual UPS ground shipping from 
>> Washington, DC. USA addresses only. Paypal f/f preferred. Local 
>> pickup/handoff can be arranged. 
>>
>> 1. Berthoud GB 192 front bag, with strap. Gray. Very good lightly used 
>> condition, with a small hole in the underside where a bolt was used to help 
>> secure it to a front rack. Strap included. $100.
>>
>> 2. Klikfix fork and adapter for the GB 192, new, never installed. $25.
>>
>> 3. Berthoud mini 86 bag. Gray. A stylish little bag. $75.
>>
>> 4. Ostrich S-2 saddle bag and seatpost support rack. Green. The internal 
>> stiffener worked its way through the fabric, which left a small cut that 
>> can be seen in the photos. I used the stiffener inside the bag under the 
>> straps. $70 for bag and rack. 
>>
>> 5. Paul thumbies shifter mounts for MTB bars, 22.2 size. Black. Unused. 
>> $45.
>>
>> 6. Thomson Elite 250mm straight post. *27.4 size.* Note the unusual 
>> size. New, never installed. $50.
>>
>>
>> thanks, 
>> Ed Felker
>> Washington, DC 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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When I tried to arrange coming to WC to see it, he replied that it had 
sold. I did not ask for how much….

He’s now listed his wife’s very similar 48cm Sam, also at $2800
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7356173233.html
Not as good a package as the 51: lesser rear rack, no pedals (unless you 
count the single Speedplay that is inexplicably in the pictures) and no 
fenders.

On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 2:30:24 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Good luck! I have issues with the listing practices but the pricing is 
> definitely ballpark in this market. That's a nice bike. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 2:01:39 PM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> Was it $2400, or $2500? This morning when I first saw the listing, I 
>> thought it was $2500.
>> Now I see that the listing changed two hours ago to $2800.
>>
>> BTW, it is a 51cm (not 54).
>>
>> I contacted him about seeing it. There is someone scheduled to come at 
>> 2:00.
>> If not sold, I can see it at 3:00.
>>
>> $2400 as it is shown seems fine; $2500 seemed OK; $2800 is a lot.
>>
>> David Lipsky
>>
>> BTW — Anyone want to trade a 51 Sam for my 51 Appaloosa? Or, my 55 AH 
>> Hilsen?
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> That Hillborne went up $400 in a day. That, combined with the used care 
>> salesman content at the end of the listing, may be just the ticket to big 
>> money!  
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 7:51:53 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Hunquapillar 
>>> 63cm 
>>> $1300 
>>> Corvalis, OR 
>>>
>>> https://corvallis.craigslist.org/bik/d/philomath-rivendell-hunqapillar-lugged/7355805549.html
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen 
>>> 58cm 
>>> $2700 
>>> Portland, OR 
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-homer-hilson/7354749888.html
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne 
>>> 54cm 
>>> $2400 
>>> Walnut Creek, CA 
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-hillborne/7355859903.html
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It has some additions that I would look at as bonuses beyond the usual 
Roadeo frame:
Third set of water bottle braze-ons
Mid fork leg eyelets for a front rack
Two sets of rear dropout eyelets
Rack braze-ons just above the rear brake bridge "hidden" on the inside of 
the seat stays
Nice!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 4:33:53 PM UTC-7 Scott Calhoun wrote:

> I had some credit and took a flyer on this one. I've wanted a Roadeo for 
> many years. This one is an odd case, as TCP is calling it both a "Custom" 
> and a "Roadeo." Vince at Riv HQ suggested that it could be from the time 
> period when they weren't offering Roadeos per se? I called and got the 
> serial number from TPC and it begins with MN, so Mark Nobilette built. From 
> the geometry details they do list, it lines up with 63cm Rivendell Roadeo 
> geometry from ~2017 or so. I'm going to see if Nobilette has any additional 
> info about it. In any case, the TT length and Standover look very similar 
> if not identical to my current 64cm Quickbeam, and former 64cm Ram, so I'm 
> not worried about the fit. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:41:37 AM UTC-7 John M wrote:
>
>> Nice looking (and big!) Riv custom at the Pro's Closet:
>>>
>>
>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/rivendell-roadeo-xl
>>
>>  
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown

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Sean,
Just sent you an email about the Aspin Open.
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 2:01:16 PM UTC-7 Sean B. wrote:

> SOLD - Selle Anatomica  X1 
>
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 11:51:59 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> Bump and price drop.
>>
>> $170 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. 
>>
>> $70 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. 
>>
>> Price includes shipping CONUS.
>>
>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 9:47:04 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Looking to get rid of some of my extra saddles. Buyer pays shipping of 
>>> their choice (USPS, UPS, ect). Both saddles are in great shape. 
>>>
>>> $190 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. It's been ridden just under 
>>> 150 miles. Treated once on both sides with Obenaufs.  
>>>
>>> $90 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. Ridden once, so lets say 
>>> 20ish miles ridden. Never treated. 
>>>
>>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CrMECXF6d4MPvRQAA
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any questions or want more pictures!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud post-mount rack/bag combo

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This is an insane deal! It's gonna cost Joe at least $25 just to ship it 
and it is one of the most beautiful bags around. The color matches that of 
the blue-gray Berthoud handlebar bags. When I see the Sackville TrunkSack 
described as a "miniature pirate's chest," this fits the bill perfectly, 
for a large pirate's overnight bag: Straps, brass buckles and rivets and 
leather everywhere!
The rack is a marvel, too. No rack brazeons? No saddle loops? This rack 
just needs the seat post and you can raise or lower it as much as the seat 
post length allows.
I've got one here in my home office (and the rack is in the garage). The 
bag would look just fine in a display case. A new one is 224.70 Euro 
(without the rack).
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 3:40:47 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Bump and price drop, $100 shipped. At this point I want someone who could 
> use it to pay me just enough to bother boxing and shipping. It's gotta go! 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:13:19 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The story behind this is I bought it some years ago, didn't use it long 
>> and sold it, then got it traded back to me a while back. Am I ever going to 
>> use it again? This seems increasingly unlikely so you should! Fits 27.2, 
>> with shim that works on 26.8. It's some insane price new now, I can't 
>> imagine anyone is paying that. How's about $170 shipped? 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>> Marin County, CA. 
>> Text 415 786 4623 <(415)%20786-4623> for the way mo pics
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Silver Shifters - Upgrade?

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Now both sides have sold out! In about 24 hours!!
Maddening….

On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 7:15:41 AM UTC-7 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looks like one side sold out already :-/
>
> Was thinking of replacing my Paul thumbies mounts with these for the 
> adjustability. 
>
> Oh well
>
> Pat in DC
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 8:42:22 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey all!
>> I have an Atlantis w/Choco bars and run the Microshift SL-T09 in the 
>> Groovy Rivendell reversed style. It's a Riv build and they didn't have 
>> Silver shifters available when I ordered and I was a little sad about it. I 
>> have no complains about the Microshifts whatsoever, but I'd love some 
>> feedback from anyone who has experience with the newer Silver thumbies and 
>> the Microshifts. I'm tempted to buy a pair of shifters and mounts now that 
>> they're all in stock, but I'm not sure I really *need* to.
>>
>> Essentially, other than looking cooler (which is, to be sure, a valid 
>> reason to change), is there any performance/usability advantage of Silver 
>> shifters? 
>>
>> I appreciate your time!
>> Ben 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

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And, I'm getting a 55 Mermaid, which is what I wanted!
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-7 Tom Wyland wrote:

> 55 Olive on the way for me! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

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So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>
> Ray
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm too 
>> bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike and I 
>>> are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
>>>
>>> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new Platys 
>>> for us to admire!
>>>
>>> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>
 Leah,

 That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!

 You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front derailer 
 is on there? Thank you!

 Best,
 Rich in ATL

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:

> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
> Protection Program now.
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and bags is 
>> - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the kids would 
>> say, 
>> it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from Leah the parts/paint 
>> picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro shop that put it 
>> all 
>> together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! 
>>
>> Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's bike" Bernard
>>
>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (This message should have preceded my photos, but it was too large 
>>> and was not sent. Since the file is too large, you can see it on 
>>> Instagram 
>>> or the Facebook groups if you like.)
>>>
>>> Well, while we wait for the ship to be unloaded (MONDAY! 拾), I made 
>>> a video of my Platy because...IT’S FINALLY COMPLETE. I was waiting on a 
>>> bunch of rose anodized parts and a Randi Jo bag in custom colors and 
>>> all of 
>>> those things arrived on Thursday and I whisked the whole getup to the 
>>> bike 
>>> shop for assembly. Here’s a video that may not show up. So after that, 
>>> I’ll 
>>> send pics.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> "For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I went to 
>>> Rivendell and the Platypus frames all showed up defective.  They tried 
>>> to 
>>> sell me a fat-tired folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff."
>>>
>>> The way this would work in real like (cuz I'm the ebike liker around 
>>> here) is I would be in the parking lot selling that e-folder out of my 
>>> trunk and Grant would be chasing me off the premises 藍
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:15:03 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
 Mike M:  Just turn on closed captions for English-ish translation. 

 For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I went to 
 Rivendell and the Platypus frames all showed up defective.  They tried 
 to 
 sell me a fat-tired folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff. 



 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 12:23:18 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Bluelug just posted a Platypus build video.
> I wish I understood Japanese!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga8o1WKWgXs=537s
>
> Mike M
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[RBW] Re: What size are the upper/larger braze-ons on Riv seat stay?

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The barrel shaped braze-on, farther up the seat stay, just above the one 
your rack is using, is an M6 x 1.0 pitch.
But, so is the upper of the two “braze-ons” at the rear dropout. (It’s 
actually cast into the dropout.) 
The lower of the two is M5 x 0.8. You appear to have a bolt head showing — 
Is that just an M5 not truly threaded into the M6?
At least that is the case with my MIT Appaloosa, I think made in 2016 or 
2017. I bought it used in 2018.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 8:11:35 PM UTC-7 Justin wrote:

> Howdy folks
>
> Bought a Burley Kazoo to bring my nephew on rides but the proprietary rack 
> isn't long enough to reach the braze-on eyelets on the Appaloosa dropouts 
> so I'll have to use the upper larger ones. I've realized that M5 bolts just 
> pass through the threads it's some size bigger. Just thought I'd ask here 
> before going and and buying a few sizes to try out. 
>
> thanks for any help
>
> [image: 50998485320_623f819350_b[1].jpg]
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Brendan,
Am I correct in assuming that we’re talking 135mm OLN rear in all cases?
Are yours 32 hole or 36?
Do you want 32 or 36?
What are the spoke types used in your wheel set(s)?
Thanks,
David (jes thinking... if I should get a Platypus...) Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:03:50 AM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you 
> all to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset 
> when moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c 
> wheelsets (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
>
> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
>
> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for 
> another, and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob Today!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very funny stuff, as usual.
And, nice pics of his Homer, bedecked with Silver Shifters and Rivendell 
bags. 
Please, someone buy this man a stainless steel water bottle with a cork 
stopper!
David Lipsky -- Berkeley, CA
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:09:03 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>
>
> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
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[RBW] Re: New Bike day- Red Mixte but not a Raspberry Platypus.

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Linda,
Have a look at the Platypus video posted by BlueLug. The English closed 
captions are really bad but the two speakers discuss and show the bracing 
of the seat tube by the top tube and the twin, continuing lateral stays. It 
should contribute to that frame not feeling flexy with a load, but ... 
that's my speculation only!
Here's a link to that point (about 15 minutes in):
https://youtu.be/ga8o1WKWgXs?t=894
I, too, wish the 55cm Platypus was designed for 650b wheels!

David Lipsky

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 5:17:57 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:

> Does this bike feel flexy with a load in front and back, set fairly high 
> on your racks? I ask because I have a Velo Orange mixte, size 54, which has 
> a similar design and rack configuration. The flex bothers me. It's kind of 
> an unstable feeling side to side. It's also enough to make the rear brake 
> rub on a rough road. I'm looking for an alternative and the Platypus is too 
> long and big-tired for me. I like the fact that the Soma can run 650 b's.
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:25 AM UTC-8 Tom Palmer wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
>> I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it. 
>> Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally 
>> understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, but 
>> its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm Pari 
>> motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub Shimano 
>> dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very well. 
>> Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at 
>> least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever a 
>> thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and Shimano 
>> SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow triplizer 
>> 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 5 
>> miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the bends 
>> of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way conservative. 
>> I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders 
>> too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the swept 
>> back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too light 
>> but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty road 
>> bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame they 
>> still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is tremendous- 
>> even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and it 
>> really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.
>>
>> Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and this 
>> may be the ride.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’d guess they get a container load of boxed frames (including Hillbornes?) 
and UPS only picks them up from Walnut Creek one-by-one, after they’ve been 
checked or prepped or built into bikes. That will take a while, dependent 
on the number of frames and staffing constraints.
It might also be that the Unicorn sails up the CA coast to dock at the Port 
of Oakland and their container gets taken off there and goes the short 
distance to Walnut Creek on the back of a tractor trailer truck.

David Lipsky
Berkeley

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 12:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> You know what I want to know? What happens next. 
>
> It seems to me that with this Platypus we have been let in on the secret 
> workings of things at Rivendell. I haven’t been around as long as many of 
> you, but I don’t remember being let behind the scenes like we have been 
> with this model. 
>
> We started with the drawings of the Anniversary Mixte, which then morphed 
> into a “fancy Cheviot” which then became the Platypus. It was an 
> interesting evolution, and fun to speculate over. Until this bike, I didn’t 
> know what color tubes were, but Will is holding them in the sunlight in 
> Blilver and Limolive on the product page and now we know how Rivendell 
> judges color samples. We were provided the tracking for the cargo ship, the 
> Unicorn, so we could watch the bikes’ arrival to American shores. And...now 
> what happens next?
>
> The ship is “at anchor” near LA. Does it have to sit out in the harbor 
> until it takes its turn at the dock? Who fetches the cargo? UPS? How long 
> does it take for cargo to make its way to Walnut Creek? And when it 
> arrives, how soon can it be sorted and sent out to PlatyPeople? 
>
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 23, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Ride for Fun  wrote:
>
> 
>
> From Taiwan to Japan is a lot faster & easier than to the US.  
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 1:08 AM Michael Baquerizo  
> wrote:
>
>> As a product person - it's wild that Blue Lug is getting these frames and 
>> releasing them into the wild before Riv has a chance to. I know how laissez 
>> faire Grant is and all, but still wild. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-5 BrettG wrote:
>>
>>> New bluelug shop tour video shows the limolive frame:
>>> https://youtu.be/Jr9PZtHnYUg?t=1220
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:40 AM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>

 For those wanting to keep tabs on the shipment:


 https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/YM-UNICORN-IMO-9462732-MMSI-416464000
 On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 6:45:51 PM UTC-6 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Will sent out an email a little over an hour ago detailing items back 
> in stock, things of interest and goings on at RBW. 
> He included this comment:
> "Our next batch [of Sams], coming on the *YM Unicorn* with the 
> Platypus frames is delayed 17 days because of bad weather and 'berth 
> congestion'."
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 1:48:16 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> If I understood correctly it has to do with unusual weather and 
>> shipping containers at the port, a lack of "parking spaces" more or less?
>>
>> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 1:30:40 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Jared, did Vince say why? 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sigh is right, David.
>>>
>>>
>>> Spoke with Vince yesterday, he did indeed say mid-March ETA.
>>>
>>> Hopefully that gives more people time to get funds together to help 
>>> support an amazing company and get a killer bike in the process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 12:00:46 PM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
 And, now, I see that the Platypus page says ETA of “mid-March!”
 
 David Lipsky
 On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> [image: 4AFE365B-C68C-46F4-A214-CAF3AF3A5949.jpeg]It’s going to 
> be your turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of the 
> mixte, or 
> so the Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new bikes 
> and 
> how each one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a 
> Christmas 
> present? Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting it. 
> What do 
> you have in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? 
> Rambler? 
> Errands? 
>
> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and 
> very capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If 
> you’re 
> on Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: 
> #rbwplatypus. 
>
> Happy New Year!
> 

[RBW] Re: FS: Compass/Clement 700c Tires + 1 wheel

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sent you an email about Snoqualmie Pass Endurance tires.
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 2:12:12 PM UTC-8 André P wrote:

> Hi folks, I've had these tires kicking around in my basement for a while 
> and since I don't have a 700c bike to put them on anymore, they definitely 
> aren't of use to me. Photos in this this album 
>  here.
>
> - Black Compass Snoqualmie Pass Extralight 44mm decent tread life but not 
> great
> - Mismatched colors Compass Barlow Pass 38mm, good tread life left
> - Black Clement X'Plor MSO 40mm (now known as Donnelly)
> 20 dollars a pair
>
> - Compass Snoqualmie Pass Endurance 44mm, basically new just dirty from 
> being mounted and test ridden
> 40 dollars for the pair
>
> - 1 Velocity Dyad Rim/Hub (velocity built too) 36 spoke 700c front wheel, 
> no skewer
> 40 dollars
>
> 100 for everything, seriously that's a lot of tread life and a wheel for 
> 100 bucks.
>
> Bay Area pick up or if you buy the lot I will drop it off if it's a 45 
> minute drive or less from Berkeley.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Will sent out an email a little over an hour ago detailing items back in 
stock, things of interest and goings on at RBW. 
He included this comment:
"Our next batch [of Sams], coming on the *YM Unicorn* with the Platypus 
frames is delayed 17 days because of bad weather and 'berth congestion'."

On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 1:48:16 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> If I understood correctly it has to do with unusual weather and shipping 
> containers at the port, a lack of "parking spaces" more or less?
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 1:30:40 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Jared, did Vince say why? 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
>>
>> Sigh is right, David.
>>
>>
>> Spoke with Vince yesterday, he did indeed say mid-March ETA.
>>
>> Hopefully that gives more people time to get funds together to help 
>> support an amazing company and get a killer bike in the process.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 12:00:46 PM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> And, now, I see that the Platypus page says ETA of “mid-March!”
>>> 
>>> David Lipsky
>>> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 4AFE365B-C68C-46F4-A214-CAF3AF3A5949.jpeg]It’s going to be 
 your turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of the mixte, or so 
 the Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new bikes and how 
 each one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a Christmas 
 present? Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting it. What 
 do 
 you have in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? Rambler? 
 Errands? 

 You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
 capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re on 
 Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: #rbwplatypus. 

 Happy New Year!
 Leah

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[RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

And, now, I see that the Platypus page says ETA of “mid-March!”

David Lipsky
On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: 4AFE365B-C68C-46F4-A214-CAF3AF3A5949.jpeg]It’s going to be your 
> turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of the mixte, or so the 
> Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new bikes and how each 
> one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a Christmas present? 
> Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting it. What do you have 
> in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? Rambler? Errands? 
>
> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
> capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re on 
> Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: #rbwplatypus. 
>
> Happy New Year!
> Leah
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Nitto/Rivendell RBW52F Basket Rack

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You might consider this SOMA rack. May be bigger than you want, but way 
cheaper.
>  https://www.perennialcycle.com/porteur-rack-deluxe-stnless.html
Good price at about $115 with shipping. 
Or, the same but not stainless. $20 less. --
>  https://www.perennialcycle.com/porteur-rack.html
Either give more attachment points (5) than the Nitto (3).

David (I have, and like, the 52F) Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 7:07:56 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Howdy
>
> Looking for a Nitto RBW52F Basket Rack
>
> Let me know if you have one you wouldn't mind rehoming
>
> Thanks
>
> Jared
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Sweater (M), SaddleSack (Lg), Trunk Sack and Tube Bar Bag

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The Rivendell Saddlesack went into the mail to Portland this afternoon.
The "Big Loafer" remains available.
David
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 4:55:16 PM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:

> The bar tube bag was delivered in Pleasant Hill yesterday and the 
> Rivendell sweater went into the mail to Seattle this afternoon.
> Large SaddleSack and Trunk Sack are still available.
> David
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 1:40:30 PM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> The Smythe Bar Tube bag is sold pending delivery/handoff in the East Bay 
>> on Thursday afternoon.
>>
>> David
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:29:26 AM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> For Sale/or WTT for/toward one, or a pair, of Rene Herse Switchback Hill 
>>> 650x48 tires, regular or EL; Or, a nice 26.8 seat post.
>>>
>>> Rivendellish things for sale:
>>>
>>> *> The Rivendell Wool Sweater*, size Medium
>>>
>>> I’ve tried it on, but not worn it — It is too long, I’d need a small. I 
>>> got it from a list member in LA who decided it wouldn’t get much use there.
>>>
>>> From Grant’s Blahg #25 Aug 2 2019 about the sheep and wool:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/aug?_pos=1&_sid=2e8c94d2b&_ss=r
>>>
>>> *Long-sleeved, crew neck, VERTICAL RIBS, olive-ish from afar. Clingy, 
>>> because of the VERTICAL RIBS. It will hug you, for better or worse, but the 
>>> VERTICAL RIBS are slimming! Longish body and sleeves. Super tidy, 
>>> non-slouchy looking.*
>>>
>>> *“ … a special, lighter weight knit they don't ordinarily do”*
>>>
>>> This size sold out by October 2020.
>>>
>>> It’s very nice but just doesn’t fit me.
>>>
>>> Listed for $130. *$90 net to me*
>>>
>>> > *Large Rivendell Saddlesack* in Olive green — Some links:
>>>
>>> Sackville SaddleSack Large - Tan 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20150214102338/http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm
>>>
>>> Approximately 17.25" wide, 8.5" tall and 13" deep. Two zippered side 
>>> pockets and two zippered forward-facing pockets. 
>>>
>>> Includes removable, matching Kangaroo Pocket. (~10.75”w x 7” tall)
>>>
>>> From one of the old catalog web pages:
>>>
>>> *Capacity:*
>>>
>>> * Not bulged (imagine): 1700 cubic inches, or 27.8 liters (the British 
>>> way)*
>>>
>>> * Bulged but not ridiculous: 1984 cubic inches, or 32.5 liters*
>>>
>>> * The pocket adds about 50 cubic inches, or .82 liters*
>>>
>>> Very good to excellent condition. Some minor stains on left at top, slot 
>>> for tombstone was obviously used and some minor scuffs on the bottom
>>>
>>> $238 original retail. *$170 net to me*
>>>
>>> *> Rivendell “Nigel Smythe” rear TrunkSack* — Big Loafer
>>>
>>> In beautiful condition. Tan with brown leather trim and fitments. 
>>>
>>> Bought this used but then got one of the newer olive ones to match my 
>>> other bags.
>>>
>>> Details from one of the old catalog web pages:
>>>
>>> *Cubic inches: 396/ Liters: 6.5*
>>>
>>> *31.5cm/ 12.25" long*
>>>
>>> *15cm/ 6" wide*
>>>
>>> *16cm/ 6.25" tall*
>>>
>>> *$90 net to me*
>>>
>>> *> Rivendell “Nigel Smythe” round, “tube” handlebar bag* in olive green.
>>>
>>> Perfect except for one mark on one of the two strap patches where it was 
>>> attached to a handlebar when I brought it home from Walnut Creek. 
>>> Otherwise, unused.
>>>
>>> Dim: 12” wide x ~5.5” diameter
>>>
>>> Full length double zipper. Two brass loops to anchor to drop handlebars. 
>>>
>>> You can run shock cord (not included) from brass loops to the hoods on 
>>> drop bars to stabilize the bag.
>>>
>>> *$50 net to me*
>>>
>>> Photos of these things at: 
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XGI9HKKGT5sc5
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David Lipsky
>>>
>>> Berkeley, CA
>>>
>>> 510-451-2737 <(510)%20451-2737> (cell & txt)
>>>
>>> Contact David.Lipsky at Me dot com  PayPal for payment.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Sweater (M), SaddleSack (Lg), Trunk Sack and Tube Bar Bag

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The bar tube bag was delivered in Pleasant Hill yesterday and the Rivendell 
sweater went into the mail to Seattle this afternoon.
Large SaddleSack and Trunk Sack are still available.
David

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 1:40:30 PM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:

> The Smythe Bar Tube bag is sold pending delivery/handoff in the East Bay 
> on Thursday afternoon.
>
> David
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:29:26 AM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> For Sale/or WTT for/toward one, or a pair, of Rene Herse Switchback Hill 
>> 650x48 tires, regular or EL; Or, a nice 26.8 seat post.
>>
>> Rivendellish things for sale:
>>
>> *> The Rivendell Wool Sweater*, size Medium
>>
>> I’ve tried it on, but not worn it — It is too long, I’d need a small. I 
>> got it from a list member in LA who decided it wouldn’t get much use there.
>>
>> From Grant’s Blahg #25 Aug 2 2019 about the sheep and wool:
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/aug?_pos=1&_sid=2e8c94d2b&_ss=r
>>
>> *Long-sleeved, crew neck, VERTICAL RIBS, olive-ish from afar. Clingy, 
>> because of the VERTICAL RIBS. It will hug you, for better or worse, but the 
>> VERTICAL RIBS are slimming! Longish body and sleeves. Super tidy, 
>> non-slouchy looking.*
>>
>> *“ … a special, lighter weight knit they don't ordinarily do”*
>>
>> This size sold out by October 2020.
>>
>> It’s very nice but just doesn’t fit me.
>>
>> Listed for $130. *$90 net to me*
>>
>> > *Large Rivendell Saddlesack* in Olive green — Some links:
>>
>> Sackville SaddleSack Large - Tan 
>> 
>>
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20150214102338/http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm
>>
>> Approximately 17.25" wide, 8.5" tall and 13" deep. Two zippered side 
>> pockets and two zippered forward-facing pockets. 
>>
>> Includes removable, matching Kangaroo Pocket. (~10.75”w x 7” tall)
>>
>> From one of the old catalog web pages:
>>
>> *Capacity:*
>>
>> * Not bulged (imagine): 1700 cubic inches, or 27.8 liters (the British 
>> way)*
>>
>> * Bulged but not ridiculous: 1984 cubic inches, or 32.5 liters*
>>
>> * The pocket adds about 50 cubic inches, or .82 liters*
>>
>> Very good to excellent condition. Some minor stains on left at top, slot 
>> for tombstone was obviously used and some minor scuffs on the bottom
>>
>> $238 original retail. *$170 net to me*
>>
>> *> Rivendell “Nigel Smythe” rear TrunkSack* — Big Loafer
>>
>> In beautiful condition. Tan with brown leather trim and fitments. 
>>
>> Bought this used but then got one of the newer olive ones to match my 
>> other bags.
>>
>> Details from one of the old catalog web pages:
>>
>> *Cubic inches: 396/ Liters: 6.5*
>>
>> *31.5cm/ 12.25" long*
>>
>> *15cm/ 6" wide*
>>
>> *16cm/ 6.25" tall*
>>
>> *$90 net to me*
>>
>> *> Rivendell “Nigel Smythe” round, “tube” handlebar bag* in olive green.
>>
>> Perfect except for one mark on one of the two strap patches where it was 
>> attached to a handlebar when I brought it home from Walnut Creek. 
>> Otherwise, unused.
>>
>> Dim: 12” wide x ~5.5” diameter
>>
>> Full length double zipper. Two brass loops to anchor to drop handlebars. 
>>
>> You can run shock cord (not included) from brass loops to the hoods on 
>> drop bars to stabilize the bag.
>>
>> *$50 net to me*
>>
>> Photos of these things at: 
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XGI9HKKGT5sc5
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David Lipsky
>>
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>> 510-451-2737 <(510)%20451-2737> (cell & txt)
>>
>> Contact David.Lipsky at Me dot com  PayPal for payment.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Sweater (M), SaddleSack (Lg), Trunk Sack and Tube Bar Bag

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The Smythe Bar Tube bag is sold pending delivery/handoff in the East Bay on 
Thursday afternoon.

David
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:29:26 AM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:

> For Sale/or WTT for/toward one, or a pair, of Rene Herse Switchback Hill 
> 650x48 tires, regular or EL; Or, a nice 26.8 seat post.
>
> Rivendellish things for sale:
>
> *> The Rivendell Wool Sweater*, size Medium
>
> I’ve tried it on, but not worn it — It is too long, I’d need a small. I 
> got it from a list member in LA who decided it wouldn’t get much use there.
>
> From Grant’s Blahg #25 Aug 2 2019 about the sheep and wool:
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/aug?_pos=1&_sid=2e8c94d2b&_ss=r
>
> *Long-sleeved, crew neck, VERTICAL RIBS, olive-ish from afar. Clingy, 
> because of the VERTICAL RIBS. It will hug you, for better or worse, but the 
> VERTICAL RIBS are slimming! Longish body and sleeves. Super tidy, 
> non-slouchy looking.*
>
> *“ … a special, lighter weight knit they don't ordinarily do”*
>
> This size sold out by October 2020.
>
> It’s very nice but just doesn’t fit me.
>
> Listed for $130. *$90 net to me*
>
> > *Large Rivendell Saddlesack* in Olive green — Some links:
>
> Sackville SaddleSack Large - Tan 
> 
>
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20150214102338/http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm
>
> Approximately 17.25" wide, 8.5" tall and 13" deep. Two zippered side 
> pockets and two zippered forward-facing pockets. 
>
> Includes removable, matching Kangaroo Pocket. (~10.75”w x 7” tall)
>
> From one of the old catalog web pages:
>
> *Capacity:*
>
> * Not bulged (imagine): 1700 cubic inches, or 27.8 liters (the British 
> way)*
>
> * Bulged but not ridiculous: 1984 cubic inches, or 32.5 liters*
>
> * The pocket adds about 50 cubic inches, or .82 liters*
>
> Very good to excellent condition. Some minor stains on left at top, slot 
> for tombstone was obviously used and some minor scuffs on the bottom
>
> $238 original retail. *$170 net to me*
>
> *> Rivendell “Nigel Smythe” rear TrunkSack* — Big Loafer
>
> In beautiful condition. Tan with brown leather trim and fitments. 
>
> Bought this used but then got one of the newer olive ones to match my 
> other bags.
>
> Details from one of the old catalog web pages:
>
> *Cubic inches: 396/ Liters: 6.5*
>
> *31.5cm/ 12.25" long*
>
> *15cm/ 6" wide*
>
> *16cm/ 6.25" tall*
>
> *$90 net to me*
>
> *> Rivendell “Nigel Smythe” round, “tube” handlebar bag* in olive green.
>
> Perfect except for one mark on one of the two strap patches where it was 
> attached to a handlebar when I brought it home from Walnut Creek. 
> Otherwise, unused.
>
> Dim: 12” wide x ~5.5” diameter
>
> Full length double zipper. Two brass loops to anchor to drop handlebars. 
>
> You can run shock cord (not included) from brass loops to the hoods on 
> drop bars to stabilize the bag.
>
> *$50 net to me*
>
> Photos of these things at: 
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XGI9HKKGT5sc5
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Lipsky
>
> Berkeley, CA
>
> 510-451-2737 <(510)%20451-2737> (cell & txt)
>
> Contact David.Lipsky at Me dot com  PayPal for payment.
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Large Sackville Saddle Bag or Something Similar

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Carlos,
See my FS: posting from about 23 hours ago. I have one in green. Here's the 
description for that:

"> *Large Rivendell Saddlesack* in Olive green — Some links:

Sackville SaddleSack Large - Tan 


http://web.archive.org/web/20150214102338/http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm

Approximately 17.25" wide, 8.5" tall and 13" deep. Two zippered side 
pockets and two zippered forward-facing pockets. 

Includes removable, matching Kangaroo Pocket. (~10.75”w x 7” tall)

>From one of the old catalog web pages:

*Capacity:*

*Not bulged (imagine): 1700 cubic inches, or 27.8 liters (the British way)*

*Bulged but not ridiculous: 1984 cubic inches, or 32.5 liters*

*The pocket adds about 50 cubic inches, or .82 liters*

Very good to excellent condition. Some minor stains on left at top, slot 
for tombstone was obviously used and some minor scuffs on the bottom

$238 original retail. *$170 net to me"*

*Pics: *https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XGI9HKKGT5sc5

Reply to this message or David.Lipsky at Me.com

Note, haven't looked but I'd guess it will cost about $25 to USPS this with 
some additional insurance.
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:23:20 PM UTC-8 reca...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Looking to buy a Sackville Baggabond or large Sackville saddle bag. I am 
> also open to any other large capacity saddle or handlebar bag. Let me know 
> if anyone has anything they would like to sell. I am pretty open in terms 
> of color but would like a large capacity bag. Thanks!
>
> Carlos
>

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[RBW] FS: Riv Sweater (M), SaddleSack (Lg), Trunk Sack and Tube Bar Bag

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

For Sale/or WTT for/toward one, or a pair, of Rene Herse Switchback Hill 
650x48 tires, regular or EL; Or, a nice 26.8 seat post.

Rivendellish things for sale:

*> The Rivendell Wool Sweater*, size Medium

I’ve tried it on, but not worn it — It is too long, I’d need a small. I got 
it from a list member in LA who decided it wouldn’t get much use there.

>From Grant’s Blahg #25 Aug 2 2019 about the sheep and wool:

   
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/aug?_pos=1&_sid=2e8c94d2b&_ss=r

*Long-sleeved, crew neck, VERTICAL RIBS, olive-ish from afar. Clingy, 
because of the VERTICAL RIBS. It will hug you, for better or worse, but the 
VERTICAL RIBS are slimming! Longish body and sleeves. Super tidy, 
non-slouchy looking.*

*“ … a special, lighter weight knit they don't ordinarily do”*

This size sold out by October 2020.

It’s very nice but just doesn’t fit me.

Listed for $130. *$90 net to me*

> *Large Rivendell Saddlesack* in Olive green — Some links:

Sackville SaddleSack Large - Tan 


http://web.archive.org/web/20150214102338/http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm

Approximately 17.25" wide, 8.5" tall and 13" deep. Two zippered side 
pockets and two zippered forward-facing pockets. 

Includes removable, matching Kangaroo Pocket. (~10.75”w x 7” tall)

>From one of the old catalog web pages:

*Capacity:*

* Not bulged (imagine): 1700 cubic inches, or 27.8 liters (the British way)*

* Bulged but not ridiculous: 1984 cubic inches, or 32.5 liters*

* The pocket adds about 50 cubic inches, or .82 liters*

Very good to excellent condition. Some minor stains on left at top, slot 
for tombstone was obviously used and some minor scuffs on the bottom

$238 original retail. *$170 net to me*

*> Rivendell “Nigel Smythe” rear TrunkSack* — Big Loafer

In beautiful condition. Tan with brown leather trim and fitments. 

Bought this used but then got one of the newer olive ones to match my other 
bags.

Details from one of the old catalog web pages:

*Cubic inches: 396/ Liters: 6.5*

*31.5cm/ 12.25" long*

*15cm/ 6" wide*

*16cm/ 6.25" tall*

*$90 net to me*

*> Rivendell “Nigel Smythe” round, “tube” handlebar bag* in olive green.

Perfect except for one mark on one of the two strap patches where it was 
attached to a handlebar when I brought it home from Walnut Creek. 
Otherwise, unused.

Dim: 12” wide x ~5.5” diameter

Full length double zipper. Two brass loops to anchor to drop handlebars. 

You can run shock cord (not included) from brass loops to the hoods on drop 
bars to stabilize the bag.

*$50 net to me*

Photos of these things at: 
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XGI9HKKGT5sc5

Thanks,

David Lipsky

Berkeley, CA

510-451-2737 (cell & txt)

Contact David.Lipsky at Me dot com  PayPal for payment.

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[RBW] Re: Crash Inspection Advice

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Each wheel should go into a truing stand to check for distortions and the 
spokes checked for even tension. Either or both wheels may have undergone 
twisting and impact forces. Have a bike shop do this along with checking 
dropout alignment front and rear (which they'll probably do when 
straightening the derailleur hanger).
A scary story! Talk to an attorney -- The parents of the kids may be liable 
for damages in the assault. Be well!!
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:00:26 AM UTC-8 Litho wrote:

>
> They did get them and they are facing significant charges. I cracked my 
> helmet in the fall, too!  I'm glad it was me and not one of the more casual 
> trail users that got assaulted.  
>   
> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 10:39:04 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>
>> That's awful!  Did they get the kids?Some way to get a good story!  
>> I'm glad you weren't hurt worse.
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:50:20 AM UTC-5 Litho wrote:
>>
>>> **Cross-posted from FB Riv Page**
>>>
>>> Hello All. Looking for a little expertise / advice on my Riv. I was in a 
>>> collision on my Appaloosa last week. A group of kids on bikes deliberately 
>>> rammed into me on a multi-use trail here in Napa. My handlebars took the 
>>> brunt of the initial impact, but me and the bike went tumbling across the 
>>> pavement and into the road that parallels the trail. Unfortunately my hand 
>>> was on the brake lever at the time and was crushed in between. I have 
>>> surgery this week to repair the fractures and rebuild the joint on my 
>>> knuckle. 
>>>
>>> I'm trying to assess all of the damage for the police report. The front 
>>> and rear derailers were bent and scraped, the rear derailer hanger is 
>>> slightly bent, but should be easy to straighten. There are numerous 
>>> scratches, chips, and a couple of small dents on the frame, but I don't see 
>>> any visible cracks or deformations anywhere. The brake lever was rotated on 
>>> the bars but doesn't seem to be broken. The stem and bars were knocked 90 
>>> degrees in the initial impact but don't have any visible damage.  
>>>
>>> Anything you would recommend checking or inspecting? The damage may just 
>>> be cosmetic, but I don't want to overlook anything. Hopefully, I'll just 
>>> end up with some glorious beausage and a good story.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The Park is a good value and solid. I have an Ultimate from many years ago 
-- Resembles the Feedback Sports and folds smaller and is lighter than the 
Park. But it does cost more. The Feedback tool tray is a significant 
accessory to add to the package.
Being able to change height and rotate your bike while it is in the stand 
is a big advantage over the hooks suspended from ceiling joist method where 
the bike is always swinging away from you as you try to work on it.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 9:44:01 PM UTC-8 Philip Williamson wrote:

> That Park stand is the standard.
> I am so cheap, I built and rebuilt bikes for years and years until i got a 
> stand as a present. Life changing. 
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa,CA
>
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I have a Park Tool stand similar to this one:
>>
>>
>> https://www.parktool.com/product/deluxe-home-mechanic-repair-stand-pcs-10-2?category=Portable
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>
>> I’ve had mine for a few years. Folds up easily, holds the bike very 
>> steady. The clamp rotates to hold via the seat post (my preferred location) 
>> or the top tube. 
>>
>> Mine differs from the stands on the Park web site in the way the legs 
>> fold up and in the way the clamp works. Otherwise very much the same. I can 
>> highly recommend it.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>
>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it 
>> with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. 
>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>> stand against not having a stand.
>>
>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>
>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not 
>> the frame.)
>>
>> You’re the best!
>> Leah
>>
>>
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>> 
>> .
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[RBW] Re: How do you ship yer Riv?

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

There is also https://www.shipbikes.com. You can call and talk to them with 
your questions on box and bike size: 
Contact info:  PH: 1-708-383-2433. inform at shipbikes.com 

They do sell a ready-made XL bike container. It is advertised as suitable 
for tandems, large mountain bikes and e-Bikes.: 
 https://www.shipbikes.com/xl-bikebox/
*The XL Bikebox.com meets all ground and air shipping requirements for UPS 
and FedEx (which is 72 x 14 x 32 inches or 164 dimensional inches). 
Recommended total shipping weight is 100 pounds. Made in USA. Guaranteed 
for one year on shell, lifetime on metal mounts.*
They'll sell you a new "skin" when your box gets too battered to reuse.
You can also make your own. With the increasing popularity of e-Bikes I was 
able to find a few of those when regular boxes had disappeared this past 
summer. They are big and tough, too. Designed for heavier loads, they'll 
last more trips.
This all assumes ground shipping with shipbikes or bikeflights. The 
airlines will likely be prohibitively expensive, albeit faster.
Best,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 2:51:19 PM UTC-8 Paul in Vermont wrote:

> Hello  All. 
>
> I am planning a trip out west to help take care of my parents, and I’d 
> like to take my long wheelbase Atlantis and my wife’s Clem, as baggage on 
>  the plane or by shipping them UPS.The wheelbases are so long they appear 
> not to fit in most normal bike travel boxes. 
>
> I know I can use cardboard, but I’d prefer something more permanent I will 
> use long term once the world opens up!
>
> How do you ship your long wheelbase Rivendell when you travel?
>
> Paul
>

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[RBW] Re: Can anybody ID this saddle bag support rack?

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It’s a Nitto uplift, though I don’t know the number. Uses the same seat 
post clamp as the R10.
I used it with a Carradice Barley bag on the GAP and C trails, Pittsburgh 
to DC. Got mine at one of the Riv yard sales a dozen years ago. 
Interestingly, it had the same HB tape wrappings to keep the bag straps 
centered.
Recommend that you Loctite the single M8 bolt — There is a lot of stress on 
it! Mine loosened up with all the jouncing and stripped the threads. Once 
back home I got an M10 bolt and tap and retapped the aluminum clamp.
Also recommend that you run a strap from the saddle rails to the top of the 
hoop as extra insurance.
Best,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 1:59:05 PM UTC-8 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> Got it from a member on list for my Sackville Saddlesack, but was hoping 
> to look for inspiration on ways to use it in other ways. I'm likely going 
> to use it in the config setup in the bottom photo, but hoping to get 
> creative. 
>
> Best, 
> Nikko
>
> [image: IMG_5378.jpeg][image: Nitto.png]
>

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[RBW] Re: Swappable handlebar setup

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice setup!
Tell us about the decaleur on the bars: Did you create it and machine it? 
Looks like each set of bars has its own decaleur.
And, what sort of bag and mounting method are you using with it?
Thanks,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 2:53:34 PM UTC-8 brettjc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Link to album  since groups 
> won't let me post photos
>
>  I present my handlebar swappable Atlantis. I was inspired by the Alps in 
> the last BQ. I'm not a fan of downtube shifters, so I went with quill 
> mount, which allow the bar swap not to mess with shifting.  The Paul moon 
> units allow me to leave the straddle cable in place while swapping the 
> bars, and with a slotted Tektro hanger in front and a modified IRD hanger 
> in rear make it easy to simply slide the brake cables out.  Removable 
> faceplate will stem allows me to swap bars by removing only two bolts. Not 
> having to revamp a cable repeatedly should avoid concerns about them 
> wearing prematurely or weakening.  
>
> Brett in PDX
>

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[RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Paul — There’s an itty, bitty graphic image of a ruler that links to the 
sizing chart for each shirt. The chambray “Small” is about ¾” larger than 
the other small shirts. Perhaps because it shrinks in laundering and the 
others are pre-shrunk fabric?
I ordered a Small Railroad short sleeve. Ships from Texas.

David Lipsky in Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 8:51:23 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Hey Benz,
> Can you link to where you found those measurements? I'm almost always 
> between sizes, but I can find them on their site or on Google.
>
> Thanks for the tip Dan. These look like great shirts, just in time for new 
> shirt season!
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 9:43:52 AM UTC-6 Benz Ouyang, 
> Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
>> Hey Dan, is the sizing correct? Their small has a chest size of 42.25", 
>> which is 21" pit-to-pit and definitely a little large for a small. Is that 
>> the "Riv fit" you're talking about?
>>
>> On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 7:48:26 AM UTC-8 danmc wrote:
>>
>>> Edgevale has their chambray shirt from last year on close out for $34. I 
>>> have been really happy with this shirt. The fabric is not pre-shrunk but a 
>>> good wash and dry gets it to a perfect Riv fit - not fitted with room to 
>>> move. At $89 they were a good deal. At $34 it is a crazy good deal. 
>>>
>>> https://edgevaleusa.com/collections/sale/products/elwell-chambray
>>>
>>> Sewn in the US from Japanese fabric. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> San Rafael CA
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

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Joe,

MKS Lambda-Monarch/formerly GripKing pedal

The platform itself is 4 1/2” long by 3” wide = 114.3 x 76.2 mm (Which is 
different from the GripKing!)

David Lipsky
On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 6:12:54 AM UTC-8 Joel S wrote:

> David, how big are these?  I have been using the MKS touring (rat trap) 
> pedal and would like a larger footprint, not sure how much larger though.  
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 12:32 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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>> How about the MKS Grip Monarch that Rivendell sells? I've been riding a 
>> pair for most of this year and like them a lot. Big, roomy and grippy.
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018
>> They have reflectors but are protected from damage and I believe that 
>> they can each be popped out by releasing the two expanding tabs.
>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 4:11:43 PM UTC-8, Joel S wrote:
>>>
>>> All riding is on blacktop, just want a larger footprint.  Don’t want a 
>>> plastic or rubber pedal.
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[RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

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How about the MKS Grip Monarch that Rivendell sells? I've been riding a 
pair for most of this year and like them a lot. Big, roomy and grippy.
https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018
They have reflectors but are protected from damage and I believe that they 
can each be popped out by releasing the two expanding tabs.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA 

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> All riding is on blacktop, just want a larger footprint.  Don’t want a 
> plastic or rubber pedal.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar bags

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It's the F15 bag support. 

https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-f15-handlebar-bag-supporter-bag-part-nitto--870-131-11/p

I have this and the Rivendell handlebar bag -- “Sackville BarSack” — that 
was designed for it. Pretty easy to slide on and off. Great magnetic 
closure for the top. Sadly, no longer made.

Ryan Hankinson said he had a grey one on June 9th of this year when there 
was discussion of it on this list. "WTB: Rivendell handlebard rando bag"

https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1e3dcc9d-2ad8-4721-81d6-5da475442c86o%40googlegroups.com
 



I think the Gilles Berthoud #192 bag will use the F15 rack, but was 
designed for the Klickfix mount and “fork.” You can see the sleeves and 
fork here:

https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/922-handlebar-bag-gb192-gray.html


The Swift Industries Paloma uses the Klickfix fork and mount, too. It is 
customizable and made in the USA. Not sure if they are making and shipping 
anything right now.


Outershell Adventures in SF makes a high value, versatile, not too 
expensive ($90 or $100) handlebar bag. It uses straps and elastic cords. 
Wide array of colors, too. 

https://outershelladventure.com/shop/handlebar-bag

They are producing — I just bought a smallish rack/basket bag from them 
that can be made smaller and carried as a shoulder bag. They’re good at 
answering emails and I got fast service.


Ruthworks in SF makes two Brevet bags that attach with straps and elastic 
to the bars and the stem. I have one that Eli at Ruthworks customized with 
two D ring loops so that I can carry it with a shoulder strap. Can be 
ordered in different colors, too.

https://www.ruthworkssf.com/ultralight-brevet.html

https://www.ruthworkssf.com/store/p198/Micah.html


The Acorn X-Pac Handlebar Bag is only $79 but you need to order it Nov. 2 
or wait a while for the next batch. Only in black. Beautifully made bags.


David Lipsky

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 10:48:13 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> .
> What about a Nitto F115 bag support on the bars and an Ostrich F516 bag??  
>  The bag has sleeves on the each side and the rack slides thru the sleeves 
> to support the bag.  The bag has a nice map case on top.   RBW used to sell 
> a Baggins bag that mated to the F115 bag support.
>

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Re: [RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

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10% Off Anything in the Shop
 Friday, 9/25 thru Monday, 9/28, midnight
 MUST use Promo Code: *fall2020*

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 1:25:21 PM UTC-7, The Snag wrote:
>
> Somafab has some nice looking stands by Kogu that are currently on sale
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/category/tools-maintenance-racks-store-fixture-992
>
>
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[RBW] Re: RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.

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Acorn Bags has an elegant solution to the problem: A cylindrical leather 
stand-off and strap. 
https://www.acornbags.com/products/leather-stand-off-with-strap
One of the few of their products that is *not* sold out.
You could do the same with a toe strap and a piece of PVC pipe, as Patrick 
suggests.

David Lipsky
Berkeley
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 12:58:59 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>
> I recently got a gray Banana Sax.  When attach it to the saddle though 
> back of my thigh hits the bag when I peddle.  Is common?  or maybe it 
> varies with the rider's height/seat post length?  After a while it get a 
> bit annoying.

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[RBW] Re: New Roadini day + request for a good looking crankset recommendation

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The second iteration is particularly striking: Grilver, the two bags and 
the bar wrap and chain stay wrap. A gentleman's commute to work bike!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 6:57:11 AM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>
> When I built my Roadini earlier this year the plan was to keep the gearing 
> minimal. 
>

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[RBW] Re: List Function Update - Replying directly issues

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Thanks, Jim!
Nice to be able to clearly see the sender’s address in iPhone landscape 
view rather than having to search my email for earlier posts from that 
sender’s “handle” to connect an email address.
David Lipsky

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 12:31:54 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Just a heads-up - I found at least one weird variable on the "not able to 
> reply directly" to a seller or other group member. 
>
> There was a variable about viewing member email addresses which I've 
> reset, so that now group members have that ability. 
> .
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[RBW] Re: Sackville Banana Sack

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Jamin — That’s a very distinguished looking combination on the gunmetal 
Expedition. Nice!
David

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 11:54:18 AM UTC-7, jamin orrall wrote:
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> Mine came a couple days ago and it is perfect. Works great on the front or 
> back.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

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Today, Thursday, temps in Berkeley continued to be in the 60s. Sky not so 
yellow/orange but dim and murky. 
Bad part is that the Air Quality Index started out "Unhealthy" 
(particulates -- PM2.5 -- at 150 to 195) in the early AM and by 5:00 this 
evening had climbed into the "Very Unhealthy" range for PM2.5 of 215 to 
235. Took the dog for a short walk. Very few people about. Fairly quickly 
felt that it was hard to walk but no coughing like yesterday AM (after we 
had opened the windows Tuesday night for cool air). 
Ash has continued to fall, as if snowing very lightly at times.

David Lipsky
Berkeley


On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:41:19 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> .
>
> *Those photos of Berkeley don’t even look real. *
>
> *What is it like to go outside? Can you feel the heat from the fires? Is 
> it hard to breathe or can’t you discern a difference?*
>
> *Leah*
>

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[RBW] Re: A few Cheviot sweaters available...

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Looks like only the Small are left, now.
I have a new Medium that I bought from a list member a few months back and 
didn’t wear (Nor did he). It’s too long for my 5’8” skinny frame.

If anyone wants it, I’ll ship USPS for $105.00.
Or, SF Bay Area pickup for $90.00.

Email: David dot Lipsky at Me dot com
Let me know if you need measurements (though there were some on the RBW 
website). Or photos.
David Lipsky
Berkeley

On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 6:04:34 AM UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> I noticed there were a few of the Cheviot sweaters back up on the site.  
> Small, medium and large I think.
>
 ...

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[RBW] Re: New faceplate stems by Nitto

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Look at Will’s July 22nd RBW status email. I think he shows one that is 
brazed but not yet plated.
Sounds like, from today’s email, that they will be in both 25.4 and 31.8.
I’m excited about them, too. The many Rivendell upward and back swept bars 
will benefit from a better stem ‘foundation!’
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Just saw in the latest newsletter that they’re finishing up some Nitto 
> faceplate stems so the weirdos like me can run new 31.8mm handlebars in 1” 
> threaded steerers. Anyone have more info than what was in this newsletter? 
> Maybe I just haven’t read the last few closely but this was the first I’d 
> heard of them and I’m very excited. 

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[RBW] Re: Susie 53 - 56 Sizing Help Please!

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It is longer than the not-Hillibikes! For comparison, I have Ash's original 
51 MIT Appaloosa. Susie has a longer wheel base than the JoeA, along with 
longer other dimensions:

*  dimensions*

*Susie Longbolts* 53

*Joe Appaloosa* 51 cm

front center

72 cm

62 cm

rear chain stay to BB 

54 cm

52.5 cm

wheelbase

125 cm = 49.2”

> 113 cm = 44.5”

David
Berkeley

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 5:08:11 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>
> I'm 5'7" with 81cm PBH.  First I picked up a 53cm Wolbis.  After attaching 
> wheels, pedals and few stem/handlebar combos, I quickly realized that it 
> was too big for me.  It is one loong bike, in the first place. I've had 
> 51cm Appaloosa before,  but this one felt even longer. This bike runs large 
> in general, IMO.  I'm always grateful for Riv's top notch customer service. 
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie 53 - 56 Sizing Help Please!

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*Measure from center of seat tube to center of head tube, if that makes 
sense.*
I get a little longer measurement, in my very cramped basement workshop, so 
bike may not have been quite level. Actually its not likely as the front 
tire is a 650 x 60 (2.35") G-One and the rear is a 650 x 70 (2.80")!
I get:  64.7 cm

David

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 8:07:33 AM UTC-7, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>
> Here's an image of the other measurement, by the way, which I think you 
> did and came out 62.5cm.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie 53 - 56 Sizing Help Please!

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*Please measure from the center of the front axel in a straight line to the 
top of headset on top of the the top tube.* 
My 53 measures 65.2 cm to top of adjustable race from the hub's axle. (So, 
no spacer or locknut.)

David Lipsky

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 8:01:36 AM UTC-7, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>
> ..
> Just to make sure we're measuring the same thing for the 
> front-of-bike-measurement:
>
> Please measure from the center of the front axel in a straight line to the 
> top of headset on top of the the top tube. Like the blue line in the image 
> attached!!! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Susie 53 - 56 Sizing Help Please!

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Paul,

Still finishing up my 53 Susie but it’s done enough to give you some 
measurements of head tube versus seat tube heights:

The head tube itself is 23 cm long but I don’t have a Clem L for 
comparison. (It is 7 cm longer than the head tube of my 51 Appaloosa.)

Measuring from the top of the headset’s locknut to the ground is 95 cm.

I’ve installed a 10 cm Nitto DirtDrop stem and, at close to max extension, 
that puts the bar center at about 110 cm from the ground.

Measuring from the top of the seat cluster lug (ignoring the pointy bit) to 
the ground is 81 cm. 

With the saddle at 73 cm extension from the bottom bracket center, saddle 
center is 99 cm to the floor.

I'm 5' 8 ½" and my PBH is about 83 cm.

[Measurements are approximate….]

I’ll take it outside and take a picture tomorrow.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 5:04:05 PM UTC-7, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
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> .

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone ridden the Platypus demo bike that can offer an opinion?

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Will wrote about a sample Cheviot frame in his April 23rd weekly update: 
"Here's one of those sample frames. It's an updated version of the Cheviot, 
although Grant is considering having a new name and new decals for it.
The forks came without v-brake studs (I'm not calling them canti-posts 
anymore), so forgive the mis-matched brakes. This 55cm frame rides like a 
dream... it feels bigger in a good way compared to the old 55cm, which I 
attribute to the 700c wheels, slightly slacker headtube angle and longer 
top tube. I think it's mostly the wheels. The v-brakes are the big change, 
but there's other small things that most people might not notice. We'll 
have more details later."
He posted this picture:



David Lipsky

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:32:34 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
>  I’m hopeful they will release info soon though; they did post a photo 
> of an unpainted Platypus that they said would arrive painted at HQ towards 
> the end of August. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

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Magnificent! A highly mobile art piece!
I must buy one of these bikes just to prominently display the head badge. 
And, for my own viewing pleasure.

Thank you Olivier!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-7, Olivier Chételat wrote:
>
> ...and some additional material for those still waiting for a Platypus by 
> way of sample badge. 
> Save a few refinements, you are looking at the 99.83% final version.
>
>

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[RBW] Susie Has a Question - Bottom Bracket Spindle Length

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A question about bottom brackets for the Susie Longbolts:

I got a Tange LN-3922 73 x 127 bottom bracket cartridge for my Susie. I 
wasn’t thoroughly reading the comments that mentioned this BB was 
recommended ... for a Rivendell Silver crank. However, I’m using an older 
SR XD2 “wide x low” 40 — 26 crankset (with chain guard). The 127 turns out 
to be way too wide for a good chain line with the SR.

A 122mm BB (American Classic Sealed w/adjustable chainline) that I tried 
still puts the crank arms about 15mm (L) to 17mm (R) away from the chain 
stays. 
The 26 tooth inner has about 10mm clearance to the right chain stay. Tread 
or “Q” factor is about 179mm.
I’m thinking I need the Tange 118 cartridge or the 115.5.
https://www.benscycle.com/tange-ln-3922-bottom-bracket/bottom_bracket_tange-seiki_ln-3922_447/product

Anyone have experience with using the XD2 crankset on the new Susie (or 
Gus)? My frame is a medium (53).
What bottom bracket did you use?

Thanks,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

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They look like V-brakes to me. You can see the noodle in the front cable 
line. And, a side pull doesn't easily work in the rear because of the cable 
routing to the brake arm with the housing stop. That Saddlesack would get 
in the way.
I don't recognize the brakes -- TRP?
Same ornate seat cluster lug as on the Susie/Wolbis. I like it and the 
fluted end caps on the seat stays.-

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 5:24:17 PM UTC-7, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Totally! Which is exactly what I'd hoped for. I don't know what the tubing 
> is on the Roadini but I imagine this is similar, maybe one step up in wall 
> thickness. Normally I'd want 650B in my size but since I can "size up" more 
> comfortably with the curved top tube, the 700c will be proportional.  
> Anyone know what sidepulls those are? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anybody regret their Cheviot sweater?

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Hi Lyman,
I have a Medium that I have not worn other than to try it on. 
I'd really need a Small (5'8" and <125 #)
I'll send an email,
David Lipsky

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 9:19:10 AM UTC-7, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
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> Hi all, if there’s a Medium Size cheviot sweater In good condition 
> available out there, I’d be interested.  Thanks,
> Lyman
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[RBW] Re: Website is live featuring beautiful bikes & surroundings

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It was a real pleasure to look through your photographs!
Thanks much, Andrew!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sackville Banana Sax

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Andrew took me up on my offer so mine is on its way to TN and no longer 
available.

David

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 10:46:28 AM UTC-7, Applegate wrote:
>
> I'm also interested, especially in blue and olive (did they ever make it 
> in the darker "royal" color?), if there are any others out there!
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sackville Banana Sax

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Andrew, 
I have one too many. (After an impulsive purchase of a blue one.) 
Will take a picture later today and post/send it.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 11:23:26 AM UTC-7, Andrew Turner wrote:
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> If anyone wants to turn theirs into PayPal credit, I'm your guy! I have no 
> preferences as far as condition and/or color. 

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

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As Jason noted in a July 10th post, there is also a nice orange Gallop 
frame hanging above the silver one.

David in Berkeley (who wishes the smaller ones were to be made as 650b)

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:47:57 AM UTC-7, Jeff B wrote:
>
> If anyone zoomed in enough in the last email update, the Gallop Prototype 
> was in this photo. Photo credit to Will as seen in the email update.
>

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[RBW] Re: (Large) Sackville Saddlebag without a Rack?

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If you'd settle for the previous generation large SaddleSack, in Olive (!), 
I have a barely used one. I don't commute anymore and have a grocery store 
in sight of my house. If I go to Trader Joe's, I use a medium Saddle Sack 
(thanks to Joe!) and pannier(s) if need be.
Let me know if you are interested! (And, note that you get two more pockets 
AND a detachable pouch than with the current model.)

You probably don't want to combine a Sackville of either generation or 
size, with the Carradice supports. The deeper Expedition model, like the 
Sport, has an upturned end and it doesn't play well with the flat bottom of 
the Sackvilles. The Carradice bags don't have flat bottoms.

The Erlen shape would be better but it would be forced to carry all the 
weight and movement of your load because it is not dropped low enough to 
put weight on the saddle loops of such a tall bag.

The Nitto bag supports do look less "racklike" when the struts are 
connected to the seat stays of your bike
How about a Nitto R-10?
https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-r10-rear-rack/rear_mount_rack_nitto__870-801-11/product

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

PS. I also have a never used Carradice Expedition QR if anyone has an 
interest I sold the Carradice Super C bag I bought it for and as above, 
the Sackvilles won't sit nicely on it.


On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 7:42:53 AM UTC-7, Max Diener wrote:
>
> I am really interested in buying a Sackville Baggabond (their current 
> large) Saddlebag, but also really would like to run it on a bike with no 
> rack.
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[RBW] Re: Help! Chain/tire rub problem with my Susie build

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>
> Hey Ryan,

Thanks for the pictures. (Yes, show us the whole bike!) 
Couple of questions:
What cassette combination did they set you up with for the triple? 11--36?
Do you know what bottom bracket was used? Length? Shimano or Tange or ..?

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
(my new MD Susie frameset is currently in repose on the LR couch)

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 2:49:48 PM UTC-7, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
>  
>
My XL Susie has a SILVER 184 triple (44x34x24 chainrings).  A Shimano XT 
> front derailer, Shimano HG 9 speed rear cassette (CS-HG201-9) and Sunrace 
> R90 rear derailer. 
> Running 29 x 2.8 Teravail Coronado tires w Tubes. 
>
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[RBW] Re: PSA: cliffhanger 650b might be short on supply

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I talked to him yesterday, too. You can find silver 32s if you are willing 
to pay $122 each for the polished, non-machined track version!
8^(
Maybe I need to learn to like black anodizing?!

David Lipsky

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:53:08 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>
> If you have been waiting (like me) for Boots/Longbolts frames to arrive 
> before ordering the Cliffhanges, you may want to order your wheels soon.  
>  I placed my order with Rich couple of days ago.  Later learned that 
> Velocity was out of 650b Cliffhangers (both black and silver).  They are 
> not expecting availability for another month. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

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I bought one of those lumps too. (Don't think the cup survived.) I keep 
some in the basement shop and some in the garage shop. 
If I'm building a wheel, I'll first drag the threaded ends across the wax 
to ease building and maybe give some thread locking, but more in hopes of 
keeping moisture from being forced into the junction of spoke and nipple 
threads as the wheel spins.
It's very good stuff for putting on any threaded fastener or hook that goes 
into wood. Much easier, even with a battery-powered, handheld drill.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:10:13 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I bought one of the original Dixie Cups of beeswax from Rivendell as long 
> as 20 or 25 years ago, and could never find a real use for it: Loctite is 
> easier and works perfectly for threads, I prefer the way the little 
> squishable aluminum end caps look on cable ends, and Johnson's Paste Wax or 
> the lotion I use on my leather chairs works better for my (Flite) saddles.
>

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[RBW] Re: Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

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I was notified via email from Mark Abele on Wednesday that my Susie was 
ready to be picked up.
BUT, I missed the email (as I have too much in my inboxes). 

Coincidentally, I sent Will an email Thursday night asking about it and he 
replied this AM that it was ready.
So, embarrassing and exciting! Should be able to pick it up on Tuesday.

David Lipsky
Berkeley

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 4:16:50 PM UTC-7, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> After inviting a wicken over to cast some spells on my phoneI received 
> that golden phone call from Will at Rivendell!
>
> My Susie is getting ready to be packed up and shipped.  I added some odds 
> and ends to the order but I was curious if anyone else on the list has 
> received their Susie yet?
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell handlebard rando bag (forgot the name)

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Thanks, Joe!
One of these years I will master uploading photos to Google Groups.
8^0
David

On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 9:36:36 AM UTC-7, Joseph Tousignant wrote:
>
> Here's the photo when not riding "down under" :-)
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:57:16 AM UTC-4, Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it does have magnets for the top closure, which is a great system, 
>> nothing to hook or unhook. 
>> And, it does have the 90 degree turn, brass closures on each side pocket.
>> Here's a pic from about 4 years ago.  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Racks and hillibikes

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I measured the medium demo Susie as having a 49.2" wheelbase.

David Lipsky

On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 2:15:15 PM UTC-7, maxcr wrote:
>
> Ok, two quick searches answered my own question. Smallest Susie has a 53” 
> wheelbase, the basic Saris Freedom supports up to 48”, so I guess I need to 
> order the long wb bar. 
> Max

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

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Like the Gus and Susie it allows them to get the headset way up high and, 
consequently, the stem and bars can be high. Perhaps the drops are not the 
main intention. So many of their favorite bars are uprights, meant to come 
up and back toward the rider.

David Lipsky

On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:29:24 AM UTC-7, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Seen in Sal's instagram stories... reasonably good chance this is the 
> prototype based on the geo diagram from an old blahg post. I'm not sold on 
> the top tube yet, but like most Rivendell innovations, they take a while to 
> absorb for me.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville TourSacks (Panniers) - Olive

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Hi Paul,
I could use these. They look great!
email sent to your gmail address
Thanks,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 10:43:43 AM UTC-7, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> As-close-to-new-as-possible condition--used them gently for maybe a week.  
> Had these since 2012 and it's time to let go!  Front or rear rack friendly.
>
> $200 shipped priority mail, payment via check or Paypal.
>
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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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Amazing work!
Thanks,
DL

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 4:48:40 PM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>
>  he uses old Brooks frames and stretches new leathers over them and 
> does some psychedelic artwork etching in the leather.
> http://www.obsidianmonarch.com
>
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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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Please tell us about that saddle cover. Custom leatherwork to a Berthoud?
Really nice!

David Lipsky

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 8:46:13 AM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> Farmers Market Run
>

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

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I measured the 53/Med Susie test bike as being 49.2" (125 cm) long.
I guess they're unlikely to be going on that style of bus front rack!

David Lipsky
Berkeley CA

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 7:32:53 PM UTC-7, Roberta wrote:
>
> The New bike in 55 cm is supposed to have a wheelbase that is 47" long. 
>  My 51 cm joe appaloosa has a wheelbase that is 45" long.  Here it is on a 
> city bus bike rack.  
>
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[RBW] Re: Susie Tire suggestions?

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So, wouldn't a not-so-knobby 2.8" tire work with a double crankset? 
How do you figure out the chain to tire clearance, and bottom bracket, on a 
not yet available frame?
I've got a medium Susie frame coming. The demo medium at RBWHQ had a Silver 
double (w/chain guard) and Bontrager knobbies.
And, I bought a pair of 650 x 2.8" Schwalbe, G-One LiteSpeed tires.
Wheel bits not yet purchased but probably will use Cliffhanger rims.
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 8:16:06 AM UTC-7, David Wadstrup wrote:
>
> I've got a Susie frameset on the way and am already in possession of a 
> beautiful set of Cliffhanger/WI MI5 wheels.  I'm uncertain, though, of 
> which tires to choose.  I'd prefer tan sidewalls, if possible, and would 
> like a 2.6 width(since I'll be running a 2x drivetrain.) 
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

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Joe,
If you set this up to have two shifters and you keep the rear shifter on 
the left, cross the housings in front of the head tube and keep the wires 
on their respective sides of the down tube. They won't interfere with the 
paint or the 3rd water bottle bosses and the routing will keep the housings 
away from the head tube. It's an ideal situation for that configuration! 
(If they don't fight the brake cables, interfere with a bag, etc.)
I use Steve's rubber sleeves, too, on head tubes. They have a slit for 
installation and can go on anywhere without disconnecting cables. (JagWire?)
Also, get some helicopter tape for places where there may be some 
occasional rubbing and as a chain slap guard.

David Lipsky

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Update: Hey Pancake, remember you were concerned about the shifter cable 
> being too close to the downtube (which I inexplicably called a toptube in 
> my response)? Whelp, you meant the cable wire when I thought you meant the 
> housing that always rubs on headtubes. I'm in the process of swapping 
> things around to have two shifters and holy crap the wire was right on the 
> paint! 

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[RBW] Re: WTB Rivendell Hat

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I'd actually find a "bucket" hat unique and useful. Those disappeared quite 
quickly.

Not exactly a baseball hat but Randi Jo Fab makes a line of waxed cotton 
caps. They look nice, but they are not cheap.
copy-of-waxed-canvas-cap 

Their linen caps are cheaper.
And, very MUSA!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 12:31:02 PM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> I am too, but I’m hopeful Riv will make another run of them, along with 
> nicer T-shirts and another run of wool jerseys. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

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Crisp, clean and quite beautiful!
Yes, that stem works better with the Losco bars.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Small Clem L, Cheviot, or other Riv Step-Thru or Mixte

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I should have added: He does NOT want to ship, but I could facilitate if 
someone out of the area is interested. 

BTW, he has a big, double top tube Sam, too!

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