Re: [RBW] Inexpensive rear light to mount on Seat stay - any suggestions

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

All mine, which are all various usb rechargable Planet Bike super flash
lights all came with a mount that is articulated, similar to a standard
cheap OEM rear reflector mount.
They come with 2 tube sizes, a large one that fits a seat tube, a smaller
one that is a bit larger than a seat stay, and a couple sizes of rubber
shim material.
You could probably goto a LBS and rummage the parts bin and find something
similar.  Picture url of the mount from the planet bike site is below.

--ben in KC


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On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 12:37 PM Art  wrote:

> Hello All:
> I'm looking for a good but inexpensive rear light for my Bridgestone. I'd
> like to mount it on the left seat stay so I need a mount that allows me to
> tilt the light so it is pointing straight back (not up in the air). I have
> a seat bag covering the seat tube, so mounting it there won't work.
> Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
> TIA
>
> .Art
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Yes
While I don't believe the Surly Ultra New hubs lack of a quoted weight
limit means they are unlimited, I do believe it implies that any reasonable
weights are not a problem.
Whereas the Phil ones have a limit specified.

If a company tells me there is a weight limit, I'm inclined to agree/obey
as that probably exists for a reason.
If a company specifies no weight limit, I'm inclined to think there is a
weight limit, but it's probably not an issue for most use cases.
Especially Surly products that I feel probably get a lot more abuse than
some other companies products.

As a rider that is beyond the combined weight limit of the Phil hubs, I
won't buy them any time soon and will stick with the Surly's.
I should keep an eye on the Phil ones tho as I believe the weight limit use
to be 250lbs and has changed, and possibility in the future could go up I
hope.

I was curious what something like the Surly Big Dummy used for hubs, since
they have a combined bike/cargo/rider rating of 400+lbs.
But it doesn't appear Surly is using Surly hubs on any of their complete
bikes anymore.  I assume this is a WTB assimilation/price/brand degradation
issue.

--ben in KC



On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:12 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Do you interpret the absence of a weight rating on the Surly Ultra New to
> mean it's unlimited, and therefore stronger/more reliable than the Phil?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:18:47 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>
>> One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil
>> and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating.
>> Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic.
>> Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs.
>>
>> I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people to
>> fiddle with on your bike when its locked up.
>> I've replaced pretty much ever QR skewer with a bolt skewer anyways, and
>> I really appreciate the Surly's being threaded for bolts.
>>
>> --ben in KC
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:01 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly
>>> offers their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor
>>> models, and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.
>>>
>>> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a
>>> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice
>>> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost
>>> far less than my Phils.
>>>
>>> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did
>>> have my old ones converted to hollow axles.
>>>
>>> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin
>>> wheel fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs.
>>> Hollow axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts,
>>> insert QR skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New
>>> hubs come with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle
>>> conversion or any other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly
>>> steel, while the fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade)
>>> for corrosion resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts
>>> tighten and loosen with a 6mm hex wrench.
>>>
>>> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:

> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has
> 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>
> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>
> Edwin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil
and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating.
Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic.
Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs.

I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people to
fiddle with on your bike when its locked up.
I've replaced pretty much ever QR skewer with a bolt skewer anyways, and I
really appreciate the Surly's being threaded for bolts.

--ben in KC

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:01 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly offers
> their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor models,
> and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.
>
> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a
> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice
> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost
> far less than my Phils.
>
> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did have
> my old ones converted to hollow axles.
>
> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin wheel
> fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. Hollow
> axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, insert QR
> skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New hubs come
> with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle conversion or any
> other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly steel, while the
> fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) for corrosion
> resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts tighten and loosen
> with a 6mm hex wrench.
>
> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.
>
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has
>>> 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>>>
>>> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone else tried the new Riv seat?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Curious if any ladies have tried this saddle yet?
Building up an old Schwinn Continental for a friend and trying to decide
which saddle to go with for her. Trying to put as much Riv spirit in the
build as possible.

I think the width is good on the Riv but it seems too long, compared to the
dimensions of a Brooks B-xx Short. The Brooks Shorts are ~40mm shorter.
But then again, being a rather full figured guy, I don't exactly know the
importance of the shorter saddle for ladies and smaller riders, of which
the friend is both.
Thoughts?

We are unfortunately too far inland for any place that has a saddle library
for her to try different things also, so it's a buy and try situation for
us.

--ben in KC


On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 9:19 AM Chris K  wrote:

> Just put one on and I'm not sure I like it... yet. The material is comfy
> but I can't tell where I should be sitting on it, if that makes any sense.
> Coming from an Ergon saddle the nose of the Riv saddle is super wide.
> That's my least favorite part of the shape.
>
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 10:13:58 AM UTC-7 modemm...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Huh - I'm curious.  Did you ever have the black plastic one they included
>> with the 2016 Sam completes?  If so, how does it compare?
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:41:29 PM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>>> Riv shipment just delivered, including the new seat, which I mounted
>>> right away for a neighborhood spin.  I find it immediately comfortable and
>>> am eager to try it on a longer ride; first impressions are very positive.
>>> Have any of you ridden it yet?
>>>
>>> Now for that new derailer/derailleur!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> Miami, FL, where it is currently 82ºF
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ATTENTION ! Someone posted on r/Rivendell_Bicycles the map of Rivendell bike owners

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

and for those that failed to read the actual website before raising their
hackles and wildly speculating and adding unrelated stories, If you don't
want to put your home address, it recommends hoosing a random address in
your town or vague lat/long to add some anonymity but also to keep the
markers from overlapping when just entering the city.

Not sure what all the fuss is about eitherway. 1: this has nothing to do
with reddit other than that's where the link to the existing site was
posted.  2: The site was originally posted on iBOB long ago, and I think
here too.
3: Everyone self signed up, it's not like this was data scraped from other
sources or from any sales records.
Nobody's info is out there that didn't want it out there.

--ben in KC

On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 1:35 PM Brian Turner  wrote:

> Seems like the solution to this would be to just pick a random point in
> your city, or a favorite establishment’s address, or a park or what have
> you. Let that be your location on the map.
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Caroline Golum 
> wrote:
>
> Seems like the subreddit is pretty sparsely attended so at least there's
> that!
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 2:01:19 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> John — Of course the map itself doesn't have a dark-sided or hidden
>> intent. I know you're trying to help people connect and I appreciate the
>> gesture. However there is no telling what people can and will do with a
>> database like this. Because this forum is visible to the public I would
>> never add my street address. I am reminded of a story about someone who had
>> two valuable Rene Herse bicycles stolen and they later figured out their
>> home address was visible on Strava.
>>
>> It seems the Reddit post was deleted but the original map is easy to find
>> here. I know it's uncomfortable to think that people could use this
>> information for nefarious purposes. But the fun and innocent oroginal
>> intent doesn't reduce the risk. I think because the visible members of the
>> forum are kind and generous it's easy to think that anyone reading our
>> posts has a similar mindset. But as we've seen with some recent scam sales
>> there are registered members looking to take advantage of others. And,
>> again, the entire forum is publicly visible to anyone with an internet
>> connect.
>>
>> Just my perspective with an interest in looking out for other board
>> members.
>>
>> Eric
>> Fredericksburg, USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 1:17:35 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I put Eric's address as my own...
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:28:43 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Good morning Kim and all,

 Thank you for the heads-up on the Reddit thing. I'm not sure what it
 means that someone copied the map. Does this mean they've copied all the
 data as well? For benign or nefarious purposes? Maybe they just think it's
 cool?

 Has anybody who posted on the map recently had their bike stolen from
 their garage?

 I'm not quite sure what to say other than what seemed like a fun,
 innocent idea obviously is perceived to have a darker side. I get the
 reality of our world, but I choose to move through it assuming the best in
 people, and such efforts are born from this.

 I will go through the spreadsheet and where there are house numbers
 listed I'll delete the numbers, if that might make some feel more secure.

 Please shoot me an email if you wish to be deleted from the map or to
 change your address to a cross street or a taco stand.

 Cheers,
 John





 On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 7:56:58 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson
 wrote:

>
> I listed an address of my fave fish taco spot as my home address :) Be
> careful out there y’all
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 7:33:50 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hopefully this is the closest this list ever gets to the Nextdoor app.
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Ted W  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> An innocent idea but on the public Internet, quite dangerous. Sure,
>> the odds are low that someone will use the information maliciously, but 
>> why
>> risk it?
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 7:58 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> I love how many people listed their home addresses so you can go and
>>> snag their Rivs out of their sheds!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 10:35:39 PM UTC-4
>>> krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hello John Rinker ..

 Kim Hetzel.

 On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 7:33:41 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> I noticed this just a while ago:
>
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivendell_Bicycles/comments/16ivfb0/rivendell_bike_owner_map/
>
> I have no association with the OP 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Honestly, if I was somehow forced to winnow down to one bike, it would be
my qb hands down no 2nd thoughts.
It's a pretty great do about everything except race or full on mtb frame.

Jason, glad you decided to keep it. It's also a great build.

--ben in Kansas City

On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 7:28 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> APPROVE people keeping their bikes and using them.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 6:52:50 PM UTC-7 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> And as it is Friday and I took an awesome joyride around the new area, I
>> am calling it quits on calling it quits for this bike.  I can say it is now
>> sold, as you all sold me on keeping it.  My plan is to keep riding it more
>> now that I'm more confident with the climbs in the immediate area and
>> if/when I put on the pass n stow rack and start using it for camping, I'm
>> hoping to either: change the front chainring to 40t vs 48 and/or find a
>> 16/19 DOS for the rear.  That should give me all that I need for the
>> terrain.  For some reason the climbing isn't as bad as I initially assumed
>> on the 48-18 and I'll just use the bombora when I'm pulling the baby.
>>
>> Im super surprised this didn't sell, glad now that I've made my mind, but
>> a head scratcher for sure.
>>
>> Glad to get to know you all more, it's always a good learning opportunity.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jason a proud old owner of a new old Quickbeam
>>
>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 7:03:51 PM UTC-5 Jason Zakaras wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed, super clean, it was a gem when I picked it up from you Dylan!  I
>>> just took a small rip on it and it just glides.  While I think the Rene
>>> Herse crank looks brilliant, the 48t is just too stout to have much fun for
>>> me now.  I'm kicking myself for getting rid of the 40/32 crank and the
>>> 17/19 dos... doh!
>>>
>>> If it doesn't sell I think I'm going to change out the chainring to 36t
>>> and maybe put a 17/19 dos on it and see if I can have a smile again.  I can
>>> put my pull trailer adapter on the bombora and pull the lil one with that
>>> too.  hm apostasy!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 6:08:50 PM UTC-5 dylantho...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 For what it's worth - this is my old frame and it's SUPER clean. Jason
 did a great job in updating it since I sold it to him.


 On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:42:48 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Jason. I looked them up on the Wolf Tooth site and as far as I
> can tell they are made only for mountain bike bars; are yours a road bike
> bar model, or did you just force them on to the bigger bar?
>
> About that Quickbeam: I know from experience that you can list and
> relist a very nice bike and come away with far less than than expected;
> then a month later someone will post a similar bike and get a much higher
> price. This happened when I sold a very nice Sam Hillborne some years ago.
> FWIW.
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 3:36 PM Jason Zakaras 
> wrote:
>
>> Patrick, they are wolf tooth's silicone grips, I believe the Karv
>> maybe fatpaw.  I recently switched all my mtbs over to them and they are
>> lovely.  Its a nice touch when you're feeling fatigued and can drop down
>> into a cozy bed for yer hands.  I highly recommend them.
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Re: [RBW] Which Paul brakes for a Quickbeam or Simple One?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

When I was starting my design process for Paul braking my Quickbeam
everyone said to put touring on the rear.
I measured my heel clearance and decided for my bike and fit, that touring
would be unnecessary and neo-retro's would clear fine.
However, a set of used touring in my preferred color came up either here or
i-bob first, so I ended up going with them anyways.
Definitely measure before you buy tho if you are only considering the
touring for clearance problems, it might not be an issue for you.

--ben


On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:19 PM iamkeith  wrote:

> Since the Quickbeam has a nice, built-in cable hanger at the rear (whereas
> the Simple One relies on an ad-on hanger installed at the seatpost clamp
> bolt), I think it's nice to use canti brakes.  Just my opinion.  I had wide
> profile brakes, like the neo-retro, both front and rear on my Quickbeam
> (and will again when I finish rebuilding it) and never had heel clearance
> problems.   I do have another bike where I needed to use the touring on the
> rear with the neo retro on the front.
>
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 12:01:17 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Why not do the motolite V brakes ? I bet they rock
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:19 AM Drew Henson  wrote:
>>
>>> Also depends on if you want to run fenders. I don't think the minimotos
>>> have all that much clearance depending on tire size.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 10:06:49 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Mark, good to know.

 On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:04:13 PM UTC-5 esoter...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> John,
>
> The Paul Minomotos are actually short-pull calipers, so you can use
> the same short-pull levers that you would use with the touring/neo-retro
> cantilevers. The Paul Motolites are the ones that use long-pull levers.
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2023, at 12:57, JohnS  wrote:
>
> The "are Paul's brakes worth it thread" got me thinking that I should
> give them a try on my Quickbeam. What do people have experience with? I
> like the idea of using touring canti's on the rear and minimotos on the
> front as seen on this Rock Lobster build over on The Radivist.
>
>
>
> https://theradavist.com/cyclofunk-single-speed-rock-lobster-cyclocross-kyle-kelley/
>
> The only problem with that is, I'll have to get two pairs of brake
> levels, one short pull and one long pull. I'm planning on using 
> Mark/noodle
> drop bars, so the Tektro R340 and RL520 brake levers are at reasonably
> priced at $30/pair.
>
> Any suggestions are appreciated,
> JohnS
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Paul brakes work as well as any others of similar style.
Are they worth the money? Depends on you I guess.
To me Paul brakes are works of art and absolutely worth the money.
Was having this exact convo at a group ride last week when someone pointed
out my Steamroller to someone else and was talking about the brake setup.

My orange quickbeam has Paul Touring on the rear, Tektro on the front( will
get replaced in time with Paul Nero-Retro. Paul Canti Levers. One moon unit
and one Jubilee black Heart straddle cable carrier
My 2017 Surly Steamroller is setup with a single Racer on the front, and
Canti Lever w/ Funky Monkey hanger and a Jubilee black Heart straddle cable
carrier.

--ben in KC


On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:38 PM J G  wrote:

> The Paul Motolites do also have the best quick release mechanism of the
> bunch.
>
> The Paul brake that stands out the most to me is the Racer and Racer M.
> Even better in post mount.  That is the kind of brake you build a bike
> around.
>
> I run the gamut of Pauls and like them all just fine, but I am also ok
> with DXR, BB7s etc. when I want to keep costs in check.  Setup is the most
> important thing with brakes and good compassionless housing.
> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 8:26:26 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I would not agree that the only difference between most well-functioning
>> v-brakes and Paul Motolites is the name. On my Riv Custom that started with
>> Shimano DXR brakes the Pauls are notably nicer to modulate. Are they worth
>> the money? That's a different question I answered for myself, they do work
>> better.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 6:23:02 PM UTC-8 Will Boericke wrote:
>>
>>> For me, Paul brakes are not worth the retail price.  Good V-brakes (the
>>> level above department store) are universally well-functioning.  Paul buys
>>> you the name on the brake arm and probably some more freedom from
>>> maintenance.  Now, I think it's important to point out that I've owned one
>>> set of mini-motos.  I found them finicky.  TRP mini-Vs were better.  Will I
>>> still probably buy a set of Paul's if they're a good used deal?  Probably.
>>> Not going to spend $500 on them, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 9:08:23 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Patrick, can you use a Suntour power hanger ? I loved mine.



 On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 5:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks, good to know.
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock on
>> new bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on the 
>> road
>> but not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls. 
>> Your
>> results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the
>>> Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was 
>>> just
>>> talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers 
>>> would
>>> be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
>>>
>>> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson <
>>> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike
 around, but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, 
 woot!).

>>>
 Philip
 Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?)

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I'm not in Brooklyn any longer but lived in Greenpoint from 2018 to 2020.
I always saw lots of Rivs in Greenpoint and Williamsburg.   There's a guy
with an orange QB that lives on Eagle, Don't recall his name. But we talked
a few times riding down Franklin.  I lived Huron and it was always funny
that there were two orange QBs with honjo fenders just a couple blocks from
each other.
There's also a late middle aged fellow that had a AHH that frequeuented
Ovenly that I ran across occasionally, I believe he had other Rivs too.
I say I'd see at least one Riv a week on Kent/Franklin/West or going over
the Pulaski.
Sorry I can't point you towards any specific people, but Williamsburg and
Greenpoint are pretty Riv thick.

718 Cycles in Park Slope used to stock Rivs but not sure they do any more.
Joe is pretty friendly you might stop in and if hes not busy chat him up
and see if he can point you towards anyone.


--ben in KC, Kansas City, formerly Kings County



On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 10:28 AM Patch T  wrote:

> I'm in, and know a few folks not on this list who would love to ride too.
>
> Kai, both routes sound fun.
>
> Anyone riding during winter? I am! I went out yesterday and about to go
> again today on my newly rebuilt Quickbeam. Photos and report to come,
> separately.
>
> Patch
> *not of Williamsburg East, but on the very eastern edge of eastern
> Williamsburg...*
>
> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:56:01 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Minh,
>> I'm on the UWS in Manhattan and I'd be happy to join you.A few years ago
>> I organized a meet up at a beer garden in Greenpoint. Only a handful of us
>> came but fun. Would love to repeat when the warm weather comes.Actually,
>> for those fully vaccinated and comfortable eating in restaurants, I suppose
>> we could meet even now.
>> Alan
>>
>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two kids and
>>> a job that burns the present daylight hours away)
>>> I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river to
>>> Jersey City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. From there
>>> we could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then weave our way
>>> down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge we can. Every
>>> crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous would be fine,
>>> if you're into that sort of thing...
>>> Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, whatevs)
>>> -Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among others
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>>
 Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn
 Riv'sters, maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow
 riders that will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to
 intimidate the go-fast riders in Prospect Park.

 In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately
 trying to justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  Something
 that would go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with
 like-minded folks.   Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of
 town?  I know i've seen a sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the park,
 if you see me on my QB--you'll know its me from the over the top
 accessories, please say hi!

 If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we can
 start a local mini thread?

 On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely
 to use that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is open
 taking donations, please let me know!

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Re: [RBW] BOB list, lost to me

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

It's been happening to a few people,  there's a couple of threads about it
here.
This one has Skip's email to contact to have you added back.
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/WFPsQuiauUM/m/Z8tmidi1AwAJ

--ben in KC

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 11:38 AM  wrote:

> Hey all, I have seen people ask before but I can’t figure out the
> solution. I was a long time BOB list member before I was a Riv member but I
> can’t get back in or even find the list without an error message anymore.
> I’d like to list my MB-1 for sale there, can anyone tell me the secret
> handshake and or weblink I need to get back on the iBOB list?
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Re: [RBW] Wool Anorak and Winter Riding

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Dave, I've been wondering the same.   I've had my eye on these finnish
blanket hoodies for a while now as a multipurpose outdoor shirt.
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/jama-blanket-shirt/35226#koko

These folks also seem popular and offer more colorways and
styles/thicknesses.
https://asbellwool.com

KC winters are sort of all over the place.  I think a wool anorak type
thing could overlap a lot of different weather patterns we get, and worn
like a traditional anorak, loosely, you'd be able to layer up or down
underneath it and use it as a beefy shell they insulates on its own or as
part of a system depending what you're facing.

Last year I went with a Wrangler insulated work shirt(the one with the
sherpa fleece lining on the torso and quilted poly in the arms) for
everything but precipitation.  Cheap and functional.  Though it did not do
well with wind, I sized it as a mid layer so I could throw a wind jacket or
my softshell wind/rain jacket over it.

--ben in KC   (I cut into a local persimmon seed last month and the shape
was a spoon so we'll have a wet winter if you believe the lore.)

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 11:53 AM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Dave:
>
> I don’t have much experience with very cold climates, but even here in
> cold-ish Northern California it’s easy to over-dress. There’s a saying
> among runners that you “don’t dress for the first mile.” If you leave on a
> bike ride feeling warm and toasty, you’ll likely feel overheated and sweaty
> very soon.
>
> Maybe rather than a (I assume) heavily insulated anorak, you could invest
> in several lighter pieces that can be put on and taken off in layers. A
> wind shell on top to keep the cold wind out, and one or two layers of wool.
>
> Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Dave Grossman  wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of investing in a wool anorak for winter activities and just
> wondering if anyone uses one for riding in the winter or if they get a bit
> too warm?  They are a substantial investment but worth it in my opinion.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Philly Bike Expo 2021

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

You all got me excited for PBE so I went and checked but SWA tickets from
KC are just too expensive for the last minute trip.
I'll definitely plan better for next year.

--ben

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 12:31 PM Roberta  wrote:

> I'm looking forward to meeting new people and catching up with the ones I
> know.  Andy, I will miss you (we met two years ago).  There's something
> about knowing who you're writing to that makes these prose interactions
> come alive.
>
> Also, I'll be on my  Platy, too, for Pam's ride, so won't make it to
> John's breakfast.  Kate, looking forward to hearing about your biking
> adventures in Europe and Michigan.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 5:12:51 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Please take lots of pictures.
>>
>> Seeing the riders and their bikes would be great, pictures of exhibitors'
>> things too! Rivendell is going to be there and I know they were impressed
>> by the receptive crowds and embrace of fellow exhibitors so far from home
>> last time.
>>
>> I know this year has been hard on many folks at all levels in the bike
>> business and this was such a good event two years ago, I hope its
>> restorative vibes are rewarding to all. There was a much more palpable
>> sense of kinship among cyclists there than I ever noticed or felt at
>> InterBike.
>>
>> Sad to miss out this year and will be checking out everyones'' postings,
>> participating vicariously.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 10:52:27 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I will be there for both your ride (unless it's raining too hard ) and
>>> at the show both days, including your session. I’m looking forward to
>>> meeting you and others from the board. Perhaps we could all meet at noon at
>>> Riv’s booth?
>>>
>>> Girard street at Kelly drive is overhead, a bridge.
>>>
>>> I live downtown Philly, so if anyone needs local info, I’m happy to
>>> help.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>> On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 1:37:41 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 I'm presenting and leading a ride in Philly.  Please all come and bring
 your Rivs.  I'm bringing my Betty on the train.  The ride is Sat at 7:30
 near Girard/Kelly.
 https://phillybikeexpo.com/unracer-roll-to-pbe21/
 The presentation is Sun at 1:30.
 I hope to see lots of Rivs in Philly.
 Here's the link to the whole weekend.  https://phillybikeexpo.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Switching hosts for this forum?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Yep Joe, it would be a darn shame if we had to go actually ride bikes
instead of talking about bikes on the internet.
:)

--ben

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:52 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Apparently my post last night literally ended Facebook and Instagram.
> Sorry everybody! 
>
> Joe "social media killer" Bernard
>
> On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 10:19:08 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I'm just glad we still have a forum/list/whatever-it's-called for Riv
>> stuff that hasn't been absorbed into the Facebookization of everything. I
>> don't visit that place and am becoming increasingly wary of Instagram
>> because they own it, too. Google Groups, kind of annoying but good enough!
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 7:04:49 PM UTC-7 row.n.2...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jim for all your hard work to keep it going
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 7:55 PM Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for asking, Eric - at this point, it's a "known Known" and is
 unlikely to be changed, barring Google dropping the entire Groups format.

 Despite drawbacks and quirks, it provides decent bandwidth with a
 minimum of management and zero out of pocket cost. I've hosted, managed and
 run Listservs, BBS's and their related offspring over the years and none of
 them are without hassle.

 The attachment size for photos into Google Groups has been 25 MB for
 some time now. Yeah... but the other option is to set up a nice photo album
 and share that link.

 I have posted before that if things are not working correctly, the one
 helpful "to-do" is to access the Settings panel and use the "Send feedback
 to Google" button. Some things have actually been addressed over the years.

 There is a "For Sale" tag (Or "Label" in Googroup parlance).
 Periodically I remind folks, but honestly, almost every list member seems
 to label things clearly enough in the subject that it's hard to be 
 confused.
 There are actually three labels - "RBW-Emphemera" - "RBW-History" and
 "transations-sell-buy-trade"
 I"ve been relatively slow to implement them, as I did not want to
 impose too much structure on this group.

 I would also say that basic searchability is pretty strong - that's
 been refined a great deal over the last couple years. As with Gmail, it
 uses tools which are pretty refined.

 As one more vector, there is a Rivendell Owners Bunch On Facebook group
 which I set up a while ago, where For Sale/Trade is not allowed, and photos
 are more the coin of the realm.
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/rbwownersbunch

 There's another one which I'm not an admin of called "Rivendellicious"
 which also includes Bridgestone topics and allows transactions.
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/19202914712

 again, I appreciate your input - thanks!

 - Jim / group admin




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> Hi all -- I'm relatively new in these parts but I do love and
> appreciate the community, information, gear swaps and laughs of the RBW
> Owners Bunch.
>
> But, man, Google Groups is awful. I'm a member of a few other forums
> that use phpBB  which is, to my mind, real
> nice and easy to use.
>
> Problems I see here:
>
>- Generally difficult to keep up with rolling posts, format
>doesn't lend to quick scanning and visual organization
>- Threads don't have pages! Infinite scroll
>- DMs get lost
>- Sharing images is a total pain
>- We don't have discussion folders for broad categories.
>Spitballing here but we could have: General discussion, For Sale, 
> Repairs
>and maintenance, etc.
>- A For Sale folder with a tagged/pinned mega thread with frames
>for sale would be cool, supplemented by our rolling gear posts.
>
> I believe phpbb would add some much needed functionality, editing
> capability, sharing capability and browsing capability! I have not done 
> *any
> *research into the cost or what it would take to set up a new forum
> but I'd wager that a few of us would gladly chip in to cover the costs.
>
> Food for thought. Perhaps this has been discussed previously. But I
> think there are better ways for us to get together.
>
> Did I mention Google groups is awful?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lost Sackville HappiSack Corroplast

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Yep, good handy material to have around.  I added supports to my trunksack
with it because it was a bit too floppy when empty.
Always plentiful in recycle bins and piles.

--ben

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:30 AM Pam Bikes  wrote:

>
> The signs on the side of the road are usually coroplast.   Use one of
> those if it's not being used anymore - think an event that has past...
> Reuse and it's free.
> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 11:35:47 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
> wrote:
>
>> Seems like you’ve got your necessary measurements. Just wanted to add a
>> trick I learned when replacing my own coroplast, that a couple bends on the
>> fore or aft makes a huge difference in the bags stability
>> More structure is good, sometimes
>> -Kai
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 7:40:28 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Curious if anybody knows the exact dimensions of the corroplast that
>>> fits inside their Sackville Happisack.  I misplaced mine and am going to go
>>> down to Tap Plastics and have them cut another.  Just wondering if anybody
>>> knows the exact dimensions of theirs?  Pretty trivial, but thought it
>>> wouldn't hurt to put it out there.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Perfect high-tech dirt road riding shoes

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Thanks.
Looked on their site,  they appear to be the Men's Park Sneakers by
Goodfellow & Co.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:27 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Target, my good man. Always Target.
>
> Patrick "Target never lets you down" Moore, who has no more details to
> give, alas. They were hanging on hooks, looked like what I want, and after
> trying them on, I paid for them.
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:25 AM Benjamin L. Kelley <
> benjamin.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Details on these shoes?   They sort of look like the Chrome Truk sneaker,
>> but less aggressive on the side sole and thicker around the ankles.
>>
>> --ben
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:08 PM Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I spent over $200 on shoes (Five Ten, $150) and pedals ($50+,
>>> recommended by experts) for "no retention" pedaling, and hated both pedals
>>> and shoes, so I did the usual and sold them -- as always -- at a loss with
>>> ~50 miles on them.
>>>
>>> I went back to the ol' reliable MKS Esprit pedal, semi-platform/semi-rat
>>> trap, with XL/X Deep MKS clips, and for the shoes I just paid $19.99 + tax
>>> for these hi-tek babies. Somewhat like my general-wear boat shoes but with
>>> lace-up vamps to keep the dirt out.
>>>
>>> These will slide into and out of the straps very easily, be very
>>> sufficiently supported by the large pedal body and retained sufficiently by
>>> the serrations, be easy to walk in, and look minimally decent (dust
>>> colored, too).
>>>
>>> Live 'n' learn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Perfect high-tech dirt road riding shoes

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Also forgot to add,  I ride in Adidas OG Gazelle's.
Great durability(They are my only shoe and I replace them about every year
once the soles wear out), great pedal grip, soft rubber low tread.
Fit is a bit narrow on them tho, so they require a bit more break in than
most.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:25 PM Benjamin L. Kelley <
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> Details on these shoes?   They sort of look like the Chrome Truk sneaker,
> but less aggressive on the side sole and thicker around the ankles.
>
> --ben
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:08 PM Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> I spent over $200 on shoes (Five Ten, $150) and pedals ($50+, recommended
>> by experts) for "no retention" pedaling, and hated both pedals and shoes,
>> so I did the usual and sold them -- as always -- at a loss with ~50 miles
>> on them.
>>
>> I went back to the ol' reliable MKS Esprit pedal, semi-platform/semi-rat
>> trap, with XL/X Deep MKS clips, and for the shoes I just paid $19.99 + tax
>> for these hi-tek babies. Somewhat like my general-wear boat shoes but with
>> lace-up vamps to keep the dirt out.
>>
>> These will slide into and out of the straps very easily, be very
>> sufficiently supported by the large pedal body and retained sufficiently by
>> the serrations, be easy to walk in, and look minimally decent (dust
>> colored, too).
>>
>> Live 'n' learn.
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Re: [RBW] Perfect high-tech dirt road riding shoes

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Details on these shoes?   They sort of look like the Chrome Truk sneaker,
but less aggressive on the side sole and thicker around the ankles.

--ben

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:08 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I spent over $200 on shoes (Five Ten, $150) and pedals ($50+, recommended
> by experts) for "no retention" pedaling, and hated both pedals and shoes,
> so I did the usual and sold them -- as always -- at a loss with ~50 miles
> on them.
>
> I went back to the ol' reliable MKS Esprit pedal, semi-platform/semi-rat
> trap, with XL/X Deep MKS clips, and for the shoes I just paid $19.99 + tax
> for these hi-tek babies. Somewhat like my general-wear boat shoes but with
> lace-up vamps to keep the dirt out.
>
> These will slide into and out of the straps very easily, be very
> sufficiently supported by the large pedal body and retained sufficiently by
> the serrations, be easy to walk in, and look minimally decent (dust
> colored, too).
>
> Live 'n' learn.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Stubborn Brooks Saddle

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Curious what leather dressing you used?   I've only used neats foot oil and
proofide and never failed.
I would think regardless of what you used, that the miles should have done
it.

--ben in KC

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 11:01 AM Lynn Haas  wrote:

> I have a honey colored Brooks Imperial saddle that I bought in 2018. It
> has about 2,000 miles on it, and it looks and feels like new... in the
> worst possible way.
>
> I've doused it in leather dressing, stored it in a hot garage for a
> summer, and put way more miles on it than I want to contemplate. It's had
> decent exposure to rain and more than enough heat and sweat. Today I'm
> going to swap back to an older Brooks that is nicely broken in, but that I
> don't want to use long term for multiple reasons.
>
> What to do?
>
> Lynn
> (just moved to Iowa - anyone in Cedar Rapids want to do a happy hour ride?)
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Re: [RBW] RBW Emails Getting Caught in Junk Filter

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I have been having the same problem for a few weeks.
I added the option to my gmail filter that sorts the mailing list traffic
into a label to"never send to spam" (suggested by someone else, don't
recall who.)

--ben

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:23 AM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> At least it’s not just me.
>
> FYI, both of the responses to my email ended up in Junk (which they are
> not!).
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> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
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> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
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> On Jul 27, 2021, at 8:12 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
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> For me too, even after adding lists to my contacts.
>
> Patrick Moore
> iPhone
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> 
> Yes! I set up several Rules but the problem persists.
>
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>
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> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> Has anybody else noticed that their Mac has started sending emails from
> this group to the “Junk” folder? I’ve tried turning filtering off, but it
> keeps happening.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I agree with John here, the most Riv-ish solution is not to use one. If
dings in my paint from posts or handlebars bothered me,  I'd be more
inclined to not do the things that cause it, rather than to add
unnecessary, bulky, and unattractive protective equipment.
My most beat up toptube frame(2017 Steamroller, lived chained to a signpost
for 2 years in NY) still gets good compliments.
Some guys actually came into the bar and found me the other night because
they wanted to talk to me about bikes.  They didn't come in to say "dude
that TT is messed up, put a pound of leather on it!"

--ben


On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 2:01 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> While there's a part of me that completely understands the desire to
> protect the beautiful paint on my Riv, another, more carefree part feels
> that covering up such beautiful work defeats the purpose of having it to
> enjoy. Kind of reminds me when my aunt bought a beautiful couch only to
> cover it with a less-than-attractive throw to protect it.
>
> Entropy is real and I'm trying to come to terms with the fleeting nature
> of beauty, or to appreciate what beauty there is in the whole process from
> 'shiny-new' to 'well-used'.
>
> We're I to cover the top tube, I'd probably learn a cool, multi-colored
> bar tape wrap with twine finishing the ends. Very Riv, indeed.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 9:20:35 AM UTC-7 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Sean B: Those Blue Lug pads are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
>> I may see if my wife can produce something similar with her sewing
>> machine...
>>
>> @Johnny Alien: I saw someone at the Eroica in Italy who had done his
>> whole handlebar with twine. It looked cool but I thought no way I'd try it.
>> Even taping bars with normal tape tends to drive me demented.
>>
>> @Leslie: what is Riv-ish when it comes to bike finishing and accessories?
>> For me, a few things:
>> - Preference for materials that can be treated or repaired to
>> keep them usable, rather than materials that have to be thrown out when
>> they start to get tired
>> - Preference for natural materials like cotton, twine and leather
>> that develop a patina
>> - Designs that don't have large ugly logos, and/or colours that
>> clash with Rivendell's colours
>>
>> @Everyone else: thanks for your suggestions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 18:02, Sean B.  wrote:
>>
>>> I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end
>>> shifters from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors
>>> too.
>>>
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
>>>
 If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into
 the top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not
 incredibly noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:

> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube
> protector is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the
> bike on their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding.
> Unfortunately, it is currently sold out:
> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear
> 
>
> Leslie Tierstein
> Arlington VA
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes?
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to
>> peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from
>> an environmental perspective.
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very
>> good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment.
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem
>> to fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose.
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of
>> their TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not
>> easily removable once it's been done.
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like
>> Carradice waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've 
>> not
>> found anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
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Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Do they have zwift fake indoor "riding" for motorcycles too? or is that
trainer looking apparatus just for moving it around?

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 3:30 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> At first I was like "cool race bike replica" then I realized..that's a
> race bike!
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Since my wife just bought this as a retirement gift for herself she's
>> starting to resent the assumption that desirable ICE vehicles are purely a
>> male domain!
>>
>> [image: Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R1000 Toni Elias - (39).jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:34:08 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> True, true, and I am able to afford my bicycle now, although I will
>>> leave you to guess whether any existential crisis was involved with my
>>> purchase :).
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 12:13 PM Matthew Williams <
>>> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 As someone elsewhere suggested,

 "Maybe forty-year-old men driving sports cars aren't going through a
 midlife crisis. Instead, they can finally afford the car they wanted when
 they were twenty."



 On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

 Most people understand the concept of a "mid-life crisis car".  I can
 buy 10 bikes for the price of the "crisis" car, which I will never buy, so
 I don't feel too bad.  Yes, it is non-essential to buy such a "fancy" bike,
 but it is used and has big contributions to my health and well being.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I generally remind them it's less expensive than most peoples cars. Then I
remind them that I don't own a car and that my bike is my transportation.



--ben in KC, celebrating 5 years of being car free in car country this
summer.

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 11:47 PM Ian A  wrote:

> Most people understand watches, so the example can be compared to buying a
> Rolex or a Grand Seiko vs a Timex.
>
> Between 2009-2011 I spent the two years riding 20,000 miles from Vancouver
> BC to the tip of South America (Ushuaia) then north as far as Uruguay. I
> had bought a used touring bike for US$650, spent a bit on upgrading the
> wheels, bought used panniers and lots of used gear and was probably
> tour-ready for under. $1500. I travelled on the cheap by avoiding hotels.
> One evening in rural Colombia where I camped outside an army baracks (with
> their permission) a couple of gents I was chatting with had an old 250cc
> motorbike. They asked my how much I had paid for the bicycle and I said
> approximately $1000 and they were gobsmacked and told me the motorbike was
> only worth $500. I asked if the motorbike would make it from Canada and be
> able to continue to Argentina. Their response was hillarious as they said
> they wouldn't trust the motorbike to the end of their road and acknowedged
> a bicycle that could go all that way would have to cost some. It put the
> price/value equation into some perspective.
>
> IanA Alberta Canada (That tour was the last interesting thing I have
> done!).
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:12:57 PM UTC-6 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Wife and recently marked the 10th anniversary and decided to get each
>> other nice presents. She is getting me an Appaloosa built and I got her
>> something she really wanted in the jewelry department (of 20-30% higher
>> value than the bike).
>>
>> We are both financially responsible people, don't live lavishly, and can
>> afford both items. However, the reactions of the friends and family who
>> hear about our gifts and their values have been somewhat puzzling for me.
>> While no one has given a second thought to the price of the jewelry, the
>> reactions on the bike have almost universally been that of astonishment.
>> And these are from people who know me well, know I enjoy cycling, and that
>> I only have one bike right now which I am planning to sell when the new one
>> arrives.
>>
>> So that got me thinking, I can't be the only one who has experienced
>> this. What are some other similar stories? More importantly, what do you
>> say to a well-meaning loved one when they ask things like "$3500 for a
>> bike?" and "but isn't your current bike orange too?"
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Re: [RBW] Riding in rain - Why not?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Not especially,  if I ride through mucky areas, I use my water bottle to
spray them off once I arrive where I'm going to keep them "clean" or free
of debris.
Requires a bit more braking power or longer stopping time, but not huge.
Rim brake pads don't suck up contamination like disc brake pads do and thus
become wildly ineffective after getting gross.
I also tend to pick up my bike(mainly the rear end) a few inches and drop
it a couple times to shake any excess water off before bringing it inside.
That tends to get the really gross muck off the frame.

--ben


On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 1:34 PM Roberta  wrote:

> Thanks. I used to not go riding when it's cold, either , so now this night
> be my next foray into additional riding opportunities. Anything special you
> do for rim brakes?
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 11:12:54 AM UTC-4 Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>
>> I also rock a Cleverhood cape. It hangs pretty loose so it doesn't cause
>> a great deal of condensation underneath unless it's very hot. I'm
>> 5'11"/180cm with some extra weight and the Cleverhood offers great coverage
>> for me.
>> I find that for most purposes if I have fenders, I don't really need rain
>> pants(unless it's very windy), and shoes get wet on bike or off bike so I
>> don't worry about those.
>> KC is quite a bit less rainy than other places tho so ymmv.
>>
>> --ben
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 9:30 AM Ahmed Elgasseir 
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>>> Yup.  When it’s really rainy I pop on a pair of cheap rain pants I got
>>> from REI. Always does the trick. :-)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Takashi  wrote:
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 I've never head about Cleverhood. It looks like a good poncho. Thank
 you, Ahmed.

 I was wearing Grundens Poncho which Riv used to sell, Gore-Tex spats
 
 by Mont Bell, and shoes covers also by Mont Bell*.*
 Very small area around my knees was uncovered and was a bit wet.
 Cleverhood's cheaper poncho is way shorter than Grundens (about 110cm),
 so you will need to wear rain pants, I think.

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Re: [RBW] Riding in rain - Why not?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I also rock a Cleverhood cape. It hangs pretty loose so it doesn't cause a
great deal of condensation underneath unless it's very hot. I'm 5'11"/180cm
with some extra weight and the Cleverhood offers great coverage for me.
I find that for most purposes if I have fenders, I don't really need rain
pants(unless it's very windy), and shoes get wet on bike or off bike so I
don't worry about those.
KC is quite a bit less rainy than other places tho so ymmv.

--ben

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 9:30 AM Ahmed Elgasseir 
wrote:

> Yup.  When it’s really rainy I pop on a pair of cheap rain pants I got
> from REI. Always does the trick. :-)
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Takashi  wrote:
>
>> I've never head about Cleverhood. It looks like a good poncho. Thank you,
>> Ahmed.
>>
>> I was wearing Grundens Poncho which Riv used to sell, Gore-Tex spats
>>  by
>> Mont Bell, and shoes covers also by Mont Bell*.*
>> Very small area around my knees was uncovered and was a bit wet.
>> Cleverhood's cheaper poncho is way shorter than Grundens (about 110cm),
>> so you will need to wear rain pants, I think.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Seat bag security

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Not a 100% solution obviously.
But the Swift Bandito bar/seat bag has slots where the buckles can reside
inside the bag, rather than outside where someone will notice it can be
easily detached.
My bandito survived at least one year and the better part of a second
outside in the bike theft capital of the US, Brooklyn, NY.
Dunno much about the sackville seat bags, but maybe you could look at
having holes cut to pass the straps thru and have the buckles inside?
Patrick's QR idea is probably the only truly secure method.

For me, contents are a concern tho. Didn't find a solution to making the
contents pilfer proof, but my tool kit only got stolen once during that
time.
The bandito bag has a pretty unnoticeable access to the pocket between the
liner and the outer, and I kept stuff in there w/o fear of it being stolen
apart from someone taking the bag as a whole.

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:38 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> What about a QR-type of saddlebag holder? Rivendell used to sell a QR
> device made by Nitto, but it was designed for Brooks saddles with rails
> vertical in the back; used with more modern saddles' slanting rails it
> angled the clamp downward. I made a couple of imitations with arms that
> were level when installed on a Flite, but they were probably not sturdy
> enough for long-term, heavily loaded use -- mine were cut and bent from
> aluminum stock, not brazed from steel.
>
> Will a Rivendell saddlebag work with the Carradice SQR system?
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 8:16 AM zem...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've always wanted to attach a fancy Sackville bag to my bike, but I live
>> in Toronto where stuff gets stolen off your bike all the time. So I've
>> resigned myself to only using bike parts I can bolt down.
>>
>> Anyone else deal with this? Any suggestions for locking down or otherwise
>> securing seat bags?
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Zack
>> Toronto, Canada
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Re: [RBW] Beginners SLR camera?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I've been buying lots of stuff from CatLABS in Jamaica Plain, MA.
Omer does a great job of testing and inspecting each item he sells, and the
prices often beat eBay.
If you're in the market for film gear, I can highly recommend them.
https://www.catlabs.info/category/35mm-cameras-and-lenses

Also yes, the OM-1, AE-1, and K1000 all have built in light meters, but if
you are buying used, you'll need to know that they actually work.(Another
plug for CatLABS is that Omer tests all gear before selling and clearly
states any defects or features that do not work consistently.)
Circuity degrades.  My mention of the light meter on my K1000 being off by
several stops,  It worked but had degraded in one of the resistors.  So
with some testing I came up with a cart of where I needed to set the ISO
settings in comparison to the actual film, to get the meter to work
correctly.



On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 10:04 AM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Patrick:
>
> That’s a little high for a T50. I recently bought one with a Canon 28mm
> lens for $30 + shipping. Works great. These cameras are very common, so
> check around for a better price.
>
> If your daughter just wants to go out and shoot pictures, this is a great
> choice. Exposure is fully automatic (there’s a built-in exposure system, so
> no external meter needed), and it advances the film automatically. She’ll
> just need to compose the shot and focus. It’s very simple to use, but Canon
> lenses are quite nice and will produce crisp images.
>
> The T50 is also a bit lighter than many other SLRs.
>
> As others have pointed out, there are many choices out there. Let me know
> if you need any help.
>
> --Eric Norris
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> On May 21, 2021, at 7:24 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Eric. I see this body with the lense on Amazon for $78:
> https://www.amazon.com/Canon-T50-Camera-35mm-50MM/dp/B00VHCSE08
>
> I am as ignorant of cameras as my daughter is of AM hubs. What do others
> think of this as a motivated beginner's camera?
>
> Will I have to buy a light meter separately?
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 12:22 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Patrick:
>>
>> Excellent option is the Canon T50. Simple, cheap SLR (you can find them
>> with a Canon lens for less than $50 on eBay) that uses the common Canon FD
>> lens mount.
>>
>> Manual focus with automatic exposure only, so if she wants to learn about
>> exposure it’s not the right camera.
>>
>> If she wants a camera that lets the user set shutter speed and aperture,
>> try the Minolta SRT 101. They’re going for about $60-80 on eBay with a 50mm
>> Minolta lens. It takes lenses with the Minolta SR mount, which means that,
>> like the Canon, there are a bunch of nice used lenses out there.
>>
>> Hope this helps! Film is fun!
>>
>> --Eric N
>>
>> > On May 20, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > My daughter has come to like film photography during her first
>> > attempts using a high quality borrowed manual SLR.
>> >
>> > I'd like to get her an SLR, preferably manual, preferably with a
>> > flash, of decent quality but not too expensive; and I have no idea
>> > what "expensive" means here.
>> >
>> > She would also be happy with a point and shoot, but I think that if
>> > affordable that a minimally decent manual with flash would be more
>> > satisfying.
>> >
>> > I know many of you are photographers; what would you recommend, and
>> > why? Manual or automatic?
>> >
>> > I might be in the market for a decent used camera for her 20th birthday.
>> >
>> > My posted photographs are really bad, I know that, and this despite
>> > some care. She might be able to help me learn how to take better ones.
>> >
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Re: [RBW] Beginners SLR camera?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Going with others in the now closed iBob thread.
I vote for Pentax K1000, super plentiful, cheap lenses. Fully manual.
It's what I learned film on, being a recent beginner myself.
The light meter was off by a couple stops on mine but I was able to adjust
the ISO and make up for it, shot many many rolls on it happily.  Only
recently sold it because I found another on craigslist to see if the meter
worked better on it(it did), but it also came in a lot with an Canon
AE-1(did not care for the system, shutter priority is not my thing), and a
Minolta X-700(really liked the system and decided to keep it also aperture
priority yay! and rokkor glass is very nice) and sold the rest for store
credit to get a nicer large format camera. Toyo 45CF, in case anyone is
curious :)

I think you'd do great with a fully manual such as K1000, FM2, or OM1 as
Matthew said, then upgrade from there.

--ben





On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 2:08 PM Paul Richardson 
wrote:

> i'll cast a vote for a canon ae-1.  easy to come by, very beginner
> friendly, and, with some basic understanding of the exposure triangle, not
> too difficult to get nice looking photos that were obviously not taken on
> an iphone.  i say forget the flash and try higher iso film if she wants to
> shoot in low light.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 2:56:21 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> I started out with my parents' Olympus OM-1 with a 50mm lens: manual,
>> with a built-in light meter. I later upgraded to a Nikon FE2, with an
>> 28-80mm zoom with a macro. The FE2 is also a manual, with an
>> aperture-priority automatic feature.
>>
>> Both of those cameras are excellent cameras for a beginner. I would
>> absolutely recommend starting with a fully manual camera to learn the
>> basics of exposure and lighting. A 50mm is a good starter lens; the 28-80
>> zoom & macro has more options for closeups and learning the basics of
>> composition.
>>
>> For a beginner, I'd recommend:
>>
>> Manual, with built-in meter:
>> Pentax K1000
>> Olympus OM-1
>> Nikon FM2
>>
>> After that, I'd graduate to:
>> Manual, with built-in meter and aperture-priority automatic:
>> Nikon FE2
>>
>> Manual, with built-in meter and shutter-priority automatic:
>> Canon AE1
>>
>> The Pentax and Olympus are good cameras that won't break the bank; the
>> FM2 is more expensive, but it will last a lifetime. I still use my FE2.
>>
>> A 50mm lens with a set of red and yellow filters would be a good setup
>> for a beginner. Once she's comfortable with the 50mm, you can get a
>> multi-purpose lens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 20, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> > My daughter has come to like film photography during her first
>> > attempts using a high quality borrowed manual SLR.
>> >
>> > I'd like to get her an SLR, preferably manual, preferably with a
>> > flash, of decent quality but not too expensive; and I have no idea
>> > what "expensive" means here.
>> >
>> > She would also be happy with a point and shoot, but I think that if
>> > affordable that a minimally decent manual with flash would be more
>> > satisfying.
>> >
>> > I know many of you are photographers; what would you recommend, and
>> > why? Manual or automatic?
>> >
>> > I might be in the market for a decent used camera for her 20th
>> birthday.
>> >
>> > My posted photographs are really bad, I know that, and this despite
>> > some care. She might be able to help me learn how to take better ones.
>> >
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Re: [RBW] What draws you to a single speed bike?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Jay,  funny about your freewheel.  I think the one on my Steamroller is the
opposite.
Hasn't been used since the day I rode it home because the shop didn't have
an 1/8 fixed cog in stock at the time.  It's fully seized up and will not
spin free at this point.
Last time I had it in a shop I asked them to just take it off and they
couldn't even remove it easily so I told them not to bother.

--ben in kc


On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 11:48 AM Jay Lonner  wrote:

> Years ago when I was living in Wisconsin I trashed a nice bike (an XO-1
> actually) by riding it my first winter there. (Well the frame was OK but
> the drivetrain was a total loss from exposure to road salt.) So I bought a
> 70’s vintage no-name frame from Goodwill and built it up as a singlespeed
> for my year-round commuter. Not a super lively bike (esp. with studded
> Nokians on it) but simple and bombproof. “An elegant weapon for a more
> civilized age.” I lived on top of a small hill, and on really cold mornings
> the grease in the freewheel would seize up so that the pawl wouldn’t engage
> the ratchet - the pedals would just spin and spin. I’d coast down the hill
> and by the time I got to the bottom friction had generated enough heat to
> free things up and I could pedal again. Good times.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Apr 19, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Philip Barrett 
> wrote:
>
> I did the single-speed thing some time ago (long before the hipsters),
> firstly using an old frameset I had then rebuilding with a Spice track
> frame. I put the dual hub wheel on so I had a freewheel on one side & a
> fixed on the other. I have to say the fixed was a rather fun & unique
> experience but not one I would want to live with every day. Surly make a
> nice little pocket wrench that allows you to quickly do the change over
> mid-ride if it all gets too much for you. I had a 105 brakest on the front
> as I wasn't willing to be killed at an itersection!
>
> Experiences; lightweight is a give, along with that, acceleration that
> leaves most others in the dust until you spin out of course! Lots of fun,
> back then fixies were unusual so I got a lot of questions too but I
> wouldn't have one as a primary bike.
>
> I sold mine at the height of the craze & turned a small profit on it.
>
> 
>
>
> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:15:59 AM UTC-7 robert.har...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone --
>>
>> Shared my QB the other day, so not a new post, but I ride a single speed
>> everyday and I love it. Yes, it is easier to repair. Yes, it is simpler to
>> operate. Yes, hills suck. But also yes, it is just fun. I genuinely like
>> knowing exactly how much effort I have to put in to go up a hill or on a
>> long ride. The peace of mind is solid.
>>
>> I rode fixed for a long time and that is a whole other beast. I'm 42 so
>> those days are probably over.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:05 AM Erik Wright  wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, meant to post a pic!
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 10:04:59 AM UTC-4 Erik Wright wrote:
>>>
 Hey Roberta,

 I'm also in Philly and popped a ss/fixed gear into my rotation in
 February 2020. I've dabbled in fixed gear riding twice before this over the
 past 10 years, so for me I think a piece of it is nostalgia. I agree with
 what folks are saying about the simplicity of having one gear. I find I
 just think about my riding less when I don't have the option to shift. Go
 faster? Pedal faster. Going uphill? Stand up.

 Two other pieces for me are variety and perpetual tinkering ("what
 *other* kind of bike could I ride?"). I got this bike (Mercier Kilo
 WT) mainly as a winter bike, and it's fully fender-able and accommodates a
 pretty wide tire (50mm max). It's not a zippy, race-y fixie like a lot of
 people like to ride; it's just about as heavy as the rest of my bikes, but
 I like it. Grant talked about this in a recent Blahg about their upcoming
 fixed/ss model, but I like how the momentum of riding fixed carries you
 through the undulations of the road.

 I used to work in Roxborough (for non-Philly folks: a hilly
 northwestern part of the city) and felt I'd never be able to get up to my
 office with only one gear. In late 2019 we moved our office down here to
 South Philly (flat) so I thought it was an appropriate time to add one to
 the rotation as a "bop around town" kind of bike. Whenever I head into West
 Philly the hills are just a refreshing challenge, but that's the case
 whether I have gears or not.

 Thinking about Will's recommendation, I think when compared to your Joe
 Appa and Homer, a single speed would likely be a lighter bike that just
 requires less thought. Just a nice bike to add in there to add some variety
 in your riding experience.

 Erik, Philly

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> 

Re: [RBW] Adding _____ to your handlebars to create an ovalized "flat" spot

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Nitto Monkey Bananas?   https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-monkey-banana.html

--ben

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 9:39 PM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> In an older RBW catalog, there was a blurb about adding some cut-up PVC
> pipe to the handlebars to achieve some different shapes to hold on to but I
> wanted to see if anyone else had solutions that were maybe a bit less
> scrappy.
>
> I've been spoiled by Ritchey's evocurve
>  and it's
> ovalized top section, and wanted to achieve something similar to my 25.4
> b135's. The brake housing will get me close but has anyone ever added
> something to their bars before wrapping to get a similar shape? Maybe just
> fold a strip of cork tape hotdog style and place it on the back of the bars
> pre-wrap?
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I've noticed some other sites switching to this theme for their
site/webstore. I find it hard to navigate to find things.
My main complaint is it tends to merge the website and the webstore into a
seamless amalgamation of "site" and I can't tell whether I'm going to be
reading an article/page or looking at a product.
I prefer separate more defined experiences. But that's just how I use
websites and shop.Ever walk into a store and think, is this a store or
someone's house? That's the kinda vibe this style of theme gives me.
That being said, I'll still use it if I have to.
Just my $0.02

--ben

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:49 AM Eric Daume  wrote:

> If you use the more common term “brake pads,” the Kool Stops pop right up
> as the first result.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021, 'islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>> I was a webmaster (of sorts) for a while, so I know how tough it can be
>> to redesign a page or site.  Thanks for your work.   I took a quick look
>> around the site just now.   I don't mind the general look, but the search
>> function, in particular, needs looking at.  I went to "Brakes" and searched
>> for brake shoes.  It came back with a few products, including whole
>> brakes.  I know that you carry Kool Stop shoes, because I just looked at
>> them recently.  But no Kool Stop came back with the first search.  When I
>> just searched "Kool Stop", I got the Kool Stop products.  So this is not
>> good.  I would prefer that there be subcategories, i.e. click on Brakes,
>> then get another menu for the various items people might search for
>> pertaining to Brakes.  I hope these comments are helpful.  Cheers, Steve
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:54:02 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> My first desktop impression in navigating it is "awkward".  Some large
>>> images, some small. 2 columns only, lots of empty white space. On product
>>> pages the product detail font is oddly small/compressed/faint in relation
>>> to the title font and large images. I find it an awkward .
>>>
>>>
>>> I prefer seeing more items on one page, utilizing the available space
>>> with content, not plain white background. I can see plain white background
>>> anywhere.
>>>
>>> The 3 bar thing for desktop websites is to me not a good look or
>>> function. It seems as web design and function professes to
>>> progress/improve/evolve, it does the very opposite. It's like jumping out
>>> the bedroom window and walking around the block to get to the kitchen.
>>>
>>> "Just the facts"  ... so to speak.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone,

 Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com
 webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage,
 improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother
 experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!

 The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on
 Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one
 site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head
 to the homepage.

 Enjoy and let us know what you think.

 Dave Schonenberg

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I'm running wavies on my QB and love em.  Compared to Sycip JJJ, Surly
Open, and Dimension Arch bars I have/had on other bikes.  I think the wavie
is a bit more comfortable for my biking posture.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:08 AM Alex K  wrote:

> Longing for the PNW air, looking at these pictures Are those WAVIE
> bars?  Thinking about switching from BILLIES to Wavies and wondering how
> you like them?
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:58:22 AM UTC-8 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> Awesome Jason.
>> Thank you for sharing. The route sounds ideal to me. I want smooth
>> trails, not death trails.
>> Your Bombadil might be my favorite bike that isn't mine.
>> I wish there was a "Best of RBW" to put or tag this post, and other great
>> ones, so they could be found easily.
>> -Matt
>> San Diego, CA, USA
>>
>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:48:40 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Andy:  ha, I appreciate the compliment, but the environment gets all the
>>> credit for the beauty of the photos; I just haphazardly waved my cell phone
>>> around and pushed the button.
>>>
>>> Robert:  I did!  Although I was riding with one other person who fell
>>> once (was OK), and my Instagram story of the ice resulted in a half-dozen
>>> replies from locals who had fallen on the ice that day!  Studded tires are
>>> something I plan to get for my commuter next winter, when I'm back to
>>> actually commuting. We have a mild winter here but there's certainly a
>>> bunch of frosty mornings over winter that make cycling quite dangerous
>>> without studs.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] In-kind donations for effective cycling advocacy

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Always a tricky thing.  The bike charity co-op in NYC that I dropped parts
off at before moving back to KC, they would go through more desirable parts
and sell online or in their retail location with funds going to the
operation. So maybe just looking for the right co-op that does that sort of
thing is an answer, or put that stipulation on your donation?
I've also seen people who will sell items at market value or maybe below
and denote that proceeds are going to charity, kinda like a bake sale.
I'm personally fond of that approach and will be doing with some odd and
ends later in the year.
You could also offer up on a forum and state that the buyer can donate the
dollar amount of their item to a list of charities and provide proof, then
you can provide them the item.  I use a software product that the owner
calls charityware, where you can only obtain a license for the product by
providing a receipt to a charity of your choice.  I've also seen raffles
done recently like this.

--ben in KC.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:46 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:

> Over the years I have amassed a sizable stash of really nice components
> that I no longer need - Paul brakes and levers, Nitto stems and handlebars,
> XTR M900 wheelset, SON dynohub, etc. It's all valuable on the open market,
> but Riv's BRP has got me thinking about how best to donate it for maximal
> benefit. My fear is that if I just dropped it all off at my local bike
> co-op the best stuff will be skimmed by the staff. I've thought of reaching
> out to Riv directly to see if they could repurpose it for the BRP, but that
> potentially creates issues they'd rather avoid (liability, not wanting to
> become a used parts dumping ground, etc.). So I thought I'd poll the nice
> folks here for some ideas on how to Marie Kondo my parts bin while serving
> the interests of social justice. It may be that the best move will be to
> take a page from Peter Singer and sell the stuff outright and then donate
> the proceeds - in that case stay tuned, since I'll probably list it all
> here first.
>
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> Bellingham, WA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Interesting article about the history of 650b.
https://www.handbuiltbicyclenews.com/c36-bicycle-wheels/196-the-renaissance-of-the-650b-wheel-0
Has info from Grant about tires, and a picture from RR 33 in Fall 2004.
About 1/2 way through the article.




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wrote:

> So if it was released in 2006, then it must have been conceptualized at
> least one or two years prior. So wacky 650b idea evolved around 2004 or
> 2005? It makes sense they had to also release some tires as well.
>
> I didn't ride a bike as an adult until 2009, so what 650b tires existed
> back then?
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 4:53 PM Joel S  wrote:
>
>> Matt, I believe they were released in 2006 just after the 659b Saluki.
>> The only tire size I ride now.  I remember when iBob list members were
>> doing concessions.  I bought a Saluki and Bleriot, still have the Bleriot.
>>
>> On Friday, October 16, 2020 at 2:50:35 PM UTC-4 Matt C. wrote:
>>
>>> I would say releasing a production 650b bike 11 years ago was pretty
>>> adventurous. I have a 2009 Bleriot and as I think about it, If I knew it
>>> existed, I would have been less likely to buy it when it was being sold. I
>>> dont think there were even too many 650b tires available then.
>>>
>>> Matt Cook in CT
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Re: [RBW] KOMA bike light or similar?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Ron's Bikes started selling them recently also, but appears to be currently
out of stock.
https://ronsbikes.com/products/japan-tail-light?_pos=2&_sid=292ee306a&_ss=r=33031174422616

I'm a big fan of these lights and have been using them for years(via
BlueLug).  I have one mounted on the rear eyelet on every bike I have as a
spare rear light..

Couple things to note,  make sure you mount them so the USB port faces the
bottom, they have a rubber flap to keep splashes out, but do not stand up
to water seeping in from the top. If it happens, it will short and won't be
ruined, but will take a week or so to dry out and be usable again.
Also make sure you keep the usb cable that comes with it, the connector is
a tad bit longer than most and is needed.as the hole around the plug is too
small for most cable ends.  I ended up buying a regular length usb cable
with an extended micro B connector.

--Ben

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:05 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I agree that ordering from Jitensha is the easier option. That's what I'll
> do.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:07 PM Ray  wrote:
>
>> You guys are too good! And FAST! This is why I knew posting here would be
>> my best bet.
>>
>> Steve -- I think you're right. That light looks identical. Thank you for
>> the connection.
>>
>> Patrick -- That would have been a great idea and you would have been able
>> to count on me to facilitate, but I think given the cost and convenience
>> the Grand Bois light from Jitensha that Steve linked would probably be the
>> better solution. What do you think?
>>
>> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 12:07:33 PM UTC-5 Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>> This looks just like the Kiley light I bought from Grand Bois in Japan
>>> back in 2017.  Jitensha has it
>>> https://www.jitensha.com/eng/GrandBois_batt_taillight.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/21/20 12:55 PM, Ray wrote:
>>>
>>> Apologies if this is off-topic, but I thought since Riv and Blue Lug are
>>> so closely tied, it might be appropriate.
>>>
>>> Blue Lug recently advertised these KOMA lights that they are selling on
>>> the global site:
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-koma-light-rear-black.html
>>>
>>> I really appreciate the simple design and the concept. I've found that
>>> most bike tail lights attach to the seatpost. This doesn't work for me most
>>> of the time because I like to use a saddle bag that would cover the light.
>>> I know they also make clip-on lights that can attach to the saddle bag, but
>>> I also don't love this solution because I've found that the angle of the
>>> light can change pretty easily without a more fixed point and doesn't
>>> always direct the light the way you might want.
>>>
>>> Anyway, the BL light looks great to me but the shipping cost is just too
>>> much to stomach. If anyone knows of other vendors that sell these I'd love
>>> to find them, but I suspect these are made specifically for BL as my
>>> searching hasn't returned them anywhere else. I was wondering if any of you
>>> knew of something similar or if you've found another solution?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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>>> Alexandria, Virginia
>>> USA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Next Touring Pedal Bearing Question

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But these use sealed cartridge bearings right?  What is to adjust other
than holding them and the spindle in place?

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:31 PM Ray  wrote:

> That's really interesting. I don't think I've seen that before. If it were
> me, I think I would treat it just like setting the bearing load in a hub or
> bottom bracket and just tighten just to the sweet spot of no-play but spins
> freely.
>
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 1:24:13 PM UTC-5 Deacon Patrick wrote:
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>> Fixed gear single track riding my Quickbeam I managed to loosen the dust
>> cover that doubles to adjust the bearings with a pedal strike on a rock. I
>> snugged it up via an alan wrench and the pedal spins freely and everything
>> seems fine. However, the MKS site says: "The dust seal cap also
>> functions as the bearing adjuster. If you loosen the cap, it may cause play
>> and premature wear." https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/product/node/331
>>
>> Anything more/different I should do?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Good to know.   I've only used Surly and crappier track hubs(from 2nd hand
bikes so not my choice to start with), and all of them have the protruding
shelf.
Maybe I'll add having the rear wheel of my QB rebuilt with a Phil Wood hub
to the projects list.
It'll definitely make fender season easier.

--ben

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:53 AM J L  wrote:

> Ben,
>
> As far as I know all phil wood bolt on hubs allow this. Any hub brand
> where the bolt provides the “shelf” that the dropout rests on will work the
> same. With the bolts removed all the way the hub is only as wide and the
> hub flange and it can drop out.
>
> Not CS but also a fan of this phil wood feature because I like fenders
>
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> wrote:
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> 
> Is this feature dependent on the model or do all Phil track hubs do this?
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM Clayton Scott 
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>> Phil wood hubs are your friend if you use febders with horizontal
>> dropouts. You can remove the bolt all the way and the wheel just drops out.
>>
>> Clayton Scott
>> HBG, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Is this feature dependent on the model or do all Phil track hubs do this?

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM Clayton Scott  wrote:

> Phil wood hubs are your friend if you use febders with horizontal
> dropouts. You can remove the bolt all the way and the wheel just drops out.
>
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Re: [RBW] Recommendations/WTB: smallish saddlebag

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I've been using the Swift Bandito for ~5 years now.  Very happy with it.
Holds my repair kit and Kryptonie Fahgettaboutit with some room to spare.
The thing I like about the Swift Bandito vs the similar size Roadrunner bag
is that on the bandito, the buckles for the straps go inside the bag,
making it a bit harder for someone to quickly walk off with it..
It has a rigid sheet of plastic to keep it in a cylinder, which is
sandwiched in between the outer shell and the inner, similar to a backpack
frame, and has a small bit of unnoticeable hook and loop tape to keep it
closed.  It's good for stashing things in.  I keep loose hex keys, some
nitrile gloves and zipties in there.

--ben


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 10:00 AM Birdman  wrote:

> I’ve been far down the saddle bag rabbit hole and have settled on the
> Acorn Medium Saddle Bag as the favorite for my needs. It has plenty of
> space with an expandable collar and drawstring, D rings for lashing a wet
> rain jacket or other items, exterior zipper pockets, and an internal dowel
> for stability. Also, there is no thigh rub due to the shape. Highly
> recommended.
> https://www.acornbags.com/products/medium-saddlebag?variant=1113866272
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> Isaac in Portland OR
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rain Cape Recommendation

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I have a Cleverhood regular/original? I won in a give away years back.
Waterproofing is great.  Mine is DWR coated ripstop multicam with red
accents.  (Not my first choice but it was what was in the giveaway).
Zippers are waterproof. Has plenty of reflective accents.
Has some condensation/heat build up issues when using it in the hot summer
here in KC and in NYC.  But did well for winter/spring commuting in NYC on
top of my insulative layers.
Definitely need fenders and maybe rain pants/gaiters depending on how bad
of drainage your riding area has.  I was commuting over/ along the East
River, so the wind off the river made rain pants necessary otherwise my
pant legs were soaked from the knee down.

--ben



On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:10 PM Drew Henson  wrote:

> it's june-uary here in seattle so i'm thinking about bike ponchos, this
> thread has been helpful. anyone have any experience with this cleverhood?
> it has a waterproof rating listed but it seems like it's on the low end of
> the spectrum, the cleverlite seems pretty decent too.
>
>
> https://www.cleverhood.com/shop/rainwear/classic-rain-poncho/mens-cape-with-hood-john-brown/
>
> i'd probably just splurge for the faiweather one if it had reflective
> accents like some others. the J one seems kinda short based on the
> pictures on the site but it's hard to judge.
>
> Anyone used this one? Seems decent as well.
>
> https://www.backcountrygear.com/daypack-bike-poncho-1.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyNjHzLiJ6gIV0hx9Ch0ujAUREAQYAiABEgLEVvD_BwE
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hot Waxing Chains

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I gave hot waxing a go last year. It worked, but not better than other
"dry" lubes, and was more hassle I found. I tried Finish Line's dry lube
and found it to be as dirty as regular wet lubes and didn't last very long.
I ended up back with Squirt. It's as clean as hot waxing as far as
attracting grit and grime. Lasts a good while, as long as hot wax it seems.
It is wax in a water based emulsion so goes on easily.  They have a regular
and a low temp version.

--ben


On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:57 PM dougP  wrote:

> Michael:
>
> I find that waxing leaves the chain clean so that it doesn't attract
> dirt.  Even riding off-road it can be simply wiped down.  However, I've
> also done some touring in wet climates & need to take along a conventional
> chain lube as the wax doesn't hold up well in a wet climate.  It is a
> hassle to go thru the process, and 9 chains would take a lot of time.  My
> wife & I only one bike each to doing a few times a year is not a big chore
> for me.  Some time ago, she picked up a fondue pot at a garage sale or
> something, cheap, and it's perfect for one chain at a time.  I just use
> ordinary canning wax (paraffin?), nothing biking specific.
>
> I understand there are also liquid wax chain products but have never tried
> them.  It may be an option for you to consider.
>
> dougP
>
> On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 4:18:22 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, one and all.  It has been a long time, at least a few years,
>> since my last post and I am just assuming my membership is still active.
>>
>> At 75+, I still ride regularly, although not the distances I used to.  I
>> live in a small town in far northern VT, which has mostly dirt roads. I
>> just ride; I don't desire new stuff nor do anything heroic worth writing
>> about.  I have a Ramboulliet, a Trek 620, An early Saluki (my goto ride),
>> and a custom Bilenky touring tandem.  My wife rides a Betty Foy and my
>> daughter a Cheviot.   All but the Trek have fenders but that's still a lot
>> of chains out on dirty roads and a lot of messy time cleaning them.
>>
>> Can you teach an old dog new tricks?  Well maybe.   I clean the chains,
>> rings and cogs with mineral spirits and citrosol.  I use a standard oil
>> lube and wipe them down as best I can.  The process of wiping down the
>> chains inevitably contaminates the rings and cogs with oil and the first
>> ride bleeds oil from the inside to the outside of the chain.  The oil
>> collects dirt, which wears down rings and cogs.  (I just ordered three new
>> rings today, so I'm focused).  Every time I go through this process of
>> cleaning 9 chains, I watch a youtube video on chain waxing but get put off
>> by the initial effort and purchase of a crock pot, ultrasonic cleaner, etc;
>> and wonder if it would really improve this process ; keep the chain cleaner
>> and reduce wear?
>>
>> Your experience, appreciated.
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Glad that someone is beginning to look at it at least. I hadn't heard any
of that. It makes sense that velocity is going to affect distance.  Tho,
this could cause concern for the increase number of people that are offset
from public transit using the bike lanes.
I've been maintaining 100% masking wearing while outside the home,
including when biking anyways.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:44 PM somervillebikes  wrote:

> I don't think the 2 meter rule necessarily applies to cycling or running.
> There is a computer-simulated model out of Europe that suggests that for
> higher speed travel modes, like running and cycling, you might need far
> more than 6 feet.  Granted, it's a model, not peer-reviewed, and there's
> also scant data that points to viral transmission occurring outdoors, but
> then again very little is really known for sure about the transmission of
> this virus. My regular riding buddy and I decided to end our gentleman
> rides two weeks ago. I'd rather err on the safe side.
>
> Anton
> velolumino.com
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 3:27:51 PM UTC-4, Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>>
>> I'm currently in NYC but will be moving back to KC next month so I'll be
>> on the other side of the state from you soon.
>> I'd be down for a train trip over and ride later in the year perhaps, My
>> work goes on so I'm as busy as ever during all this.
>>
>> I also tend to agree with you, a small group ride/chat can be done
>> safely.  You don't have to ride in a peloton or paceline to ride together.
>> Can easily chat at 6ft distances. Not touch each others bikes. Wear masks.
>> Etc...
>>
>> --ben
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:13 PM Nathan Mattia 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Bill,
>>>
>>> When Samwise Hillborne was ready to roll last month, the FIRST ride I
>>> made was from here in Richmond Heights, down the River Des Peres Greenway,
>>> to Grant’s Trail.  By far, my least favorite part was Grant’s Trail.  I
>>> have discovered that if the route is going to be long and flat, it at least
>>> needs to be scenic.  Riding Grant’s Trail reminded me of driving on
>>> highways in Mississippi.  Lots of trees with no scenery for miles and
>>> miles.  Except with Grant’s Trail, there aren’t even any Cracker Barrel’s.
>>> I DID note that even on the semi-blustery day I was riding it, there were a
>>> fair amount of people utilizing it, so that’s good.
>>>
>>> Touche`Are you a man of the Lou?  IT IS a great time for a meet up.  1)
>>> I can’t imagine there are more than 10 of us in the area here on the
>>> forum.  But if there are, I’ll be thrilled.  2) I don’t need to touch your
>>> bike, much less you.  I can tell everything I need to tell from a medically
>>> acceptable distance.
>>> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 1:48:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Schairer wrote:

 Nathan,

 I no longer live in St. Louis so couldn’t be a part of any meet up,
 unless I happened to be visiting my son at the time.  Many years ago I bike
 commuted from near Grants Farm to the CWE thru Forest Park.  Are you aware
 of Grants Trail?  My son seemed to think it might be closed due to CV.  It
 was developed by Trailnet (https://trailnet.org/), formerly Gateway
 Trailnet.  I was on the board of GT at the time and the powers that were in
 the community of Grantwood Village, of which I was a resident, spent our
 precious tax dollars appealing the trail all the way to the US Supreme
 Court, which declined to review the case preserving GT’s victory in
 district court.  I believe it has become a much used community asset.  You
 ought to check it out if you haven’t already. It would be another great
 place to ride with your kids and maybe work it into a visit to Grants Farm
 and Grant’s National Monument.  I believe the Old Chain of Rocks Bridge,
 also developed by Trailnet, connects riverfront trails on both sides of the
 Mississippi and makes for some nice riding.

 Bill S

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I'm currently in NYC but will be moving back to KC next month so I'll be on
the other side of the state from you soon.
I'd be down for a train trip over and ride later in the year perhaps, My
work goes on so I'm as busy as ever during all this.

I also tend to agree with you, a small group ride/chat can be done safely.
You don't have to ride in a peloton or paceline to ride together. Can
easily chat at 6ft distances. Not touch each others bikes. Wear masks.
Etc...

--ben

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> Hello Bill,
>
> When Samwise Hillborne was ready to roll last month, the FIRST ride I made
> was from here in Richmond Heights, down the River Des Peres Greenway, to
> Grant’s Trail.  By far, my least favorite part was Grant’s Trail.  I have
> discovered that if the route is going to be long and flat, it at least
> needs to be scenic.  Riding Grant’s Trail reminded me of driving on
> highways in Mississippi.  Lots of trees with no scenery for miles and
> miles.  Except with Grant’s Trail, there aren’t even any Cracker Barrel’s.
> I DID note that even on the semi-blustery day I was riding it, there were a
> fair amount of people utilizing it, so that’s good.
>
> Touche`Are you a man of the Lou?  IT IS a great time for a meet up.  1) I
> can’t imagine there are more than 10 of us in the area here on the forum.
> But if there are, I’ll be thrilled.  2) I don’t need to touch your bike,
> much less you.  I can tell everything I need to tell from a medically
> acceptable distance.
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 1:48:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>> Nathan,
>>
>> I no longer live in St. Louis so couldn’t be a part of any meet up,
>> unless I happened to be visiting my son at the time.  Many years ago I bike
>> commuted from near Grants Farm to the CWE thru Forest Park.  Are you aware
>> of Grants Trail?  My son seemed to think it might be closed due to CV.  It
>> was developed by Trailnet (https://trailnet.org/), formerly Gateway
>> Trailnet.  I was on the board of GT at the time and the powers that were in
>> the community of Grantwood Village, of which I was a resident, spent our
>> precious tax dollars appealing the trail all the way to the US Supreme
>> Court, which declined to review the case preserving GT’s victory in
>> district court.  I believe it has become a much used community asset.  You
>> ought to check it out if you haven’t already. It would be another great
>> place to ride with your kids and maybe work it into a visit to Grants Farm
>> and Grant’s National Monument.  I believe the Old Chain of Rocks Bridge,
>> also developed by Trailnet, connects riverfront trails on both sides of the
>> Mississippi and makes for some nice riding.
>>
>> Bill S
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Re: [RBW] Racer Wald basket

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Bluelug posted some pictures of a Cheviot the other day with one of these
on a rear bag support.
It looks pretty sweet.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluelug/49741183866/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluelug/49740639788/in/photostream/

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:03 AM Pat Smith  wrote:

> Soma also sells the half height Walds. I think in black or silver. I know
> they were running a free shipping promo a week or two back, not sure if
> that's still active.
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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I actually never really fit in with a bike community anywhere I've
lived(Currently Greenpoint, Brooklyn, NY). So I ride alone by choice and by
default.  I'll occasionally ride with friends that do, but not often.
Sometimes I'll chat it up with another rider in the bike paths.

What I'm taking, depends on what I'm doing. Sometimes I carry my flask,
usually pineapple rum or Rieger's Kansas City Whiskey. Sometimes a pipe.
Often, especially if I'm riding w/o a destination, or in the case I'm
riding thru a desolate area like Bushwick, I have my bluetooth speaker,
usually playing he crypto-homo rockers(Hedwig and the Angry Inch reference
to Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, and David Bowie) or lately, lots of Brian Eno and
Patti Smith.
Usually a film camera. Coffee I get to go iced coffee and depending on if
I've eaten or not a hard boiled egg from the bakery near my apartment.
Coldbew coffee goes into a Makeshifter Canvasworks Snackhole on the
Quickbeam.   If on the steamroller I get a medium coffee in a large cup, or
a large and drink it down so it doesn't slosh out, depending on how much
time I have.
Very rarely bring food on a ride unless its a long ride, mostly I choose to
stop and grab a bite at a place along the way. Tho that might not be an
option at the current time for some of us.

I pedal hard thru the areas filled filled with people, but take it slow and
enjoy the ride most of the time.
If I see something else interesting along the way, I'll stop for it. A
pizza, a beer, a dog to pet, a picture to take, a sight to behold, etc...
A fun detour, a shortcut, a long way,  go for it.

I always stop for another cyclist in need. Even if you don't have a spare
tube or a pump handy, they might have one and are bad at or don't know how
to change a tire, or just want someone to chat with while they're doing it.
Sometimes someone has a crappy wrench and you have a better one. Always
stop and check on them if you can.
Say hi to, wave, or acknowledge everyone on the same path, bike or ped. For
me usually it's a nod and raising my hand off the bars in a low wave.

--ben




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> I am the queen of riding alone...because I never have anyone to ride with.
> ☹️
>
> Living out here in exile (Vegas) I have had to be creative to keep my bike
> culture fresh. I’ve taken to making dumb videos that I set to music and
> post to Instagram, because that’s where the bike people are. Then we chat.
> Sometimes my videos showcase something beautiful I’ve found, sometimes they
> show my love for my Rivendell bike, but more often than not, they’re
> spoofs. Usually at my loved ones’ expense. I’ll include my video of my
> “shakedown ride” for my new Clem L from this fall. And if you want more of
> that kind of nonsense, all you must do is ask. What else do we have to do?
> 
>
> I am always on my Clem L these days, and I rarely bring refreshments. I
> have my favored routes which always take me somewhere pretty or to
> accomplish an errand. Sometimes I stop and let the sun bake into my bones
> at a park, but usually I keep moving. I love to listen to music or podcasts
> or even audiobooks. Or, I make dumb videos.
>
> What do you do?
> I’ll send the video in a second post, because that’s how this platform
> works, I guess.
> Leah
>
> On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-7, Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>> I had a thought. Considering the current situation it could be fun to get
>> ideas on how you ride solo. I want specifics. Where, how far, what bike,
>> how you make it special? Do you bring coffee, bourbon, a pipe, food? Do you
>> pedal hard or take it easy? Maybe read at a favorite spot, meditate,
>> whatever. Go nuts.
>> This could give us ideas on how to reinvent our time on the bike while we
>> deal with this weird new world.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Tires

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Funny I had the same thing happen, a couple flats in in a couple of days(I
think like 4 in one week) on RH/Compass Stampede Pass' right after moving
from KC to NYC. After that I switched to gatorskins which are the
anti-supple and suck for gripping anything other than flat and dry
pavement.  But I only had 1 flat in 2000km and it was a tiny bit of wire
that worked its way in. These will go away when I finally do my 650b
conversion on the steamroller.
On the Quickbeam I've been running Gravelking SK+ and no issues so far but
only 700km or so on them.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:50 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> I have a hard time suggesting anything other than Rene Herse tires for
> road use when supple & quick are desired.  There are other good options I'm
> sure, but I cannot find a fault in the R.H. tires. At one point I was
> concerned about their puncture protection because I had two flats within a
> week, but it's now been almost two years flat-free.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Evolution of Riv SS Designs?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

That's good to hear, I'm running 35c GravelKing SK+ on my Orange QB and was
planning on going to 38's at some point.


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:20 PM Reid Echols  wrote:

> Thanks for the shout-out Brian!
>
> I can confirm that I'm running 43c Gravelking SKs in my Silver QB, and
> echo Patrick's statement that that's all I'd expect to fit. It does limit
> the forward/backward range on the dropout to what I would estimate is a
> 6-tooth differential (based on almost no solid information). Gorgeous
> bikes, eminently practical.
>
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Re: [RBW] 2020 Goals

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I use a Lezyne Mega C, and it allows you to have multiple bike profiles and
has a setting for wheel circumference on each.  I'm pretty happy with it,
great battery life, and doesn't have the cold start issues I was
experiencing with garmin devices.

Goals for this year.  I always set a small 2000km base goal just to make
sure I have something.   I did the ride every day for a year goal a couple
years ago.
I think I'm going to keep it simple this year and just target a couple
specific rides I want to do.
 1: I want to ride the D Canal Tow Path in NJ.
 2: I want to do one of these fun group rides like the Nutmeg
Nor'easter.
 3: I'm currently living in NY, and will likely be moving sometime in
2020, so I want to ride in an Alley Cat race. I'll come either in last or
DNF, but I still want to give it a go.
 4: Warriors Fun Ride in NYC if if happens in 2020, it they didn't have
one in 2019 and I was out of town for 2018 :(
https://www.bicycling.com/rides/a22105794/warriors-fun-ride/

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 10:42 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love the 2020 goals! I have some big ones on my radar, but here are my
> biking goals:
>
> 1. When the “fancy Cheviot” becomes available - if it seems like a good
> fit and I can get it painted in the red I’ve dreamed up - I’ll sell my
> Betty Foy and buy one. (And heaven help me if Rivendell ever does end up
> making that lovely anniversary model I so longed for; I am not above
> holding grudges over that bike). I’m hoping to get my first ever dyno
> lighting, which I am so excited about.
>
> 2. Ride and ride and ride. I may be back in the workforce in 2020, so not
> sure what my schedule will look like, but when I can ride, I will. I rode
> my 2012 Betty Foy exclusively until summer 2019, and then I ended up with a
> Clem L that was such a sweet deal I couldn’t refuse it. I fell in love with
> the Clem line of bikes after getting used to the long chainstays and
> step-through frame. I dithered over how to set up that blue Clem before
> finally settling on the details in December and now I’m going to forget all
> about that and JUST RIDE. It really does take time and many miles to “know”
> a bike, and I long for the familiarity that I had with my old Betz. And
> that takes MILES.
>
> I need #2 to be measurable, so I will get a bike computer To track my
> miles. To that end, does anyone have a good suggestion for a bike computer
> for 650 b wheels? Is there one that can easily be switched between my
> bikes, or one that is affordable enough that I would get 2? (One for each
> bike.) I have an Apple Watch, so I need no other features - just the
> mileage. If you have a recommendation, would you PM me? I started a search
> and was quickly overwhelmed...
>
> Happy New Year!!!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternative to Halfmitts?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Last winter I picked up a set of Bike Iowa's Pogie Lites for my commute.
Not cold enough here(Brooklyn) for full pogies and these keep enough
wind/rain/snow off and create a nice warm micro climate inside enough that
I can wear thin wool liners rather than something thicker that's going to
either soak thru or loose dexterity.
https://bikeiowa.myshopify.com/products/pogielites

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 5:46 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Great snag for you! Let us know how they fare.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 2:59:53 PM UTC-7, Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Was able to source a pair from Mike (thanks Mike!) and received them
>> today. Supposed to snow here in NY tomorrow. Will give them a test. Plan to
>> wear over a pair of full-finger wool gloves for wind protection and added
>> warmth.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:48 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris, Yes, the halfmitts allow for ease of gloved finger dexterity if
>>> needed. I've not used them, but they are a windblock for the thumb as well
>>> as a combined air pocket for four fingers to be added over a wool mitten to
>>> extend the temperature window into colder temps. Great if you are in a San
>>> Francisco like climate, where humid/cold tends to bottom out around
>>> freezing. A bit like the glomitt idea, but in a separate shell, like a half
>>> chopper mitt.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 2:08:49 PM UTC-7, chris feczko wrote:

 Is the point of the half mitts to be able to pop your fingers out?
 Honestly bike  pogies or bar mitts would proabbly be the best. Look goofy
 and stay on your bike but they are super nice for winter riding.

 Chris
 Queens

 On Saturday, 7 December 2019 10:58:47 UTC-5, Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
> I never had a pair of halfmitts
> 
> but I'm looking for something similar to wear over my medium wool gloves,
> mostly for wind protection (nothing lined). These
> 
> REI minimalist mitten shells look decent enough. Anyone else have
> recommendation or, better yet, an old pair of halfmitts they're willing to
> part with?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville TrunkSack Small Mod

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Thanks!
They are tiny USB lights(front and back), I ordered from Blue Lug in
Japan.  Also running a PB SuperFlash in the rear.
The light output is not exceptional.Two settings, on/flash. Good to "be
seen" in the city and not blind the other folks in the bike lane,  but if
you need to ride where there aren't streetlights, you need some bigger
iron.
I also keep one mounted on the dropout on my Steamroller as a backup light
that I don't have to worry about and its too obscure/low to steal, they are
threaded on to the bolt on mount, see pictures in the link.

https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-koma-light-front-silver.html
https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-koma-light-rear-silver.html

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:59 PM Paul Richardson 
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> first riv!  that's a nice set of wheels, ben, dang.  the quickbeam orange
> is just the perfect hue of orange.  are those reflectors or lights you've
> got on the back?
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
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