[RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?
Because you called it crabon you are a BSNYC koolaid drinker. EXPOSED! ;-) On Monday, September 9, 2013 3:48:01 PM UTC-7, Z wrote: I just built up my first full-suspension mountain bike with flat pedals and a leather saddle attached to a crabon seatpost. I'm not sure which beverage is to blame, but I thought some members might be amused. - Zach in Moab On Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:33:04 PM UTC-6, Corwin Booth wrote: I was trying to think of some clever reference to the Electric Kool Aid Acid Test, but failed. Probably the *only* think I don't like about riding my Hilsen are the occasional snarky comments about having imbibed in the Petersen Kool Aid. Never mind that everyone knows that we drink miruvor, or that I just happen to agree with riding with normal shoes, fenders, the largest saddlebag I've ever seen! (that was another comment, not uttered in an entirely friendly way), after years of experience... So I really want to respond by saying something about how this person or that drank the clipless Kool Aid, or the skinny tire Kool Aid, or the plastic saddle Kool Aid, and certainly the Karbon Kool Aid. But I never do. I'll bet other folks on this list have experienced this phenomenon... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo as Commuter
We can't check it out. Your link points us to a private flickr page. you tease On Sunday, September 8, 2013 7:59:58 AM UTC-7, Trevor saxton wrote: So I have raised enough capital to complete my Betty Foy project, however the BoxDog pelican was sacrificed in the process.so while I take the Betty Foy off to paint and start on a wheel build, I am in need of a commuter. Rivendell proves its versatility again as even a Roadeo can fit the bill at a commuter in a pinch, I don't need to carry much mind you as I have a private office which allows me to keep clothes ect at work, but still amazed at how comfortable my ride still is, Still need some fenders but clipons work for now whenever it does rain. Check it out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/sets/72157635430844965/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Northern East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride-- Sunday, October 6th
h! super likely i will make it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble
Kelly, I'll give these thoughts: 1. Somebody who wants to buy a used bike accepts that it will look used, but it will be a lot less expensive. For that reason, your repaint has extremely little value to your buyer. Most of the value in a repaint is that you got to pick the color. Once you've picked it, most of the value is spent. IMO. I want to buy a used 58cm Atlantis frameset. I'm not willing to spend an extra dollar for it having been repainted. 2. On the used market, high price complete bikes don't retain value. Part it out if you want to get more money out of your used bikes. Most of your used parts will work great on future bikes for you. Keep all the parts and sell all the excess frames, maybe with a wheelset. 3. Rivendells in particular, your buyer will want to spec their own build. Every part on your bike is a potential impediment to how they want to do their build. Another reason to part it out. 4. For fringe sizes, like a 68, the supply is tiny, but so is the demand. If your buyer isn't actively looking, you have to hook them on an impulse buy (meaning it has to be a screaming deal). If they are actively looking on this list, they'll post a WTB. Maybe you should just sit back and wait for a WTB and be ready for them when they come. Your buyer is surely out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rack under load; Toplight mounted; Re-covered Flite
Patrick Nice work. It's my amateur opinion that your Rack and your saddle would work even *better *for you if you ran them RIGHT SIDE UP! It's like on Mythbusters: Well *there's *your problem! On Friday, September 6, 2013 2:52:44 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I finally tested the new custom rack today under a substantial load -- 37 lb total of bag, kit, mail, and groceries. While the '03 Curt is not the best load carrier I've ridden, it did well enough -- at least as steady as with a Fly. Note how the Toplight bolts nicely to the rear extensions of the lengthwise tubing -- the holes are threaded for this purpose at moreorless 80 mm (he got them a wee bit too far apart, but plastic files easily. This Flite is my original from 1990 or 1991 and I finally decided that the cover was just too thrashed to continue use of it. I meant to pull it off leaving the foam and re-cover the foam, but the foam came off with the cover and would not let go. So I simply contact-cemented the new leather to the plastic base -- somewhat crudely, as you can see from the nose. The leather was considerably thicker than the original cover -- nickel thickness -- and would not fold around the edges of the base, so I cut it more or less flush therewith. Comfort: jury still out. My right-side arse was irritated at a spot, but then this morning I noticed that said spot was a wee bit sore -- we'll see how it goes. The left-side arse and remainder arse felt fine. Noise: I don't know why this should be so, but the saddle squeaks much more now than it did originally --it squeaked modestly then. This alone may drive me to replace it with a standby Flite from my stash. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?
There is only one tip to give: Meditate on Rule #5 On Friday, September 6, 2013 10:51:13 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: A friend of mine (I know, hard to believe I'd have any, but there's one born every minute!) is pondering joining me for a two night ramble on Pikes Peak starting Monday. His bike isn't set up with a rack and he has no panniers, so he'll be wearing his backpack. Anyone done this? Tips? The whole thing sounds unwieldy to me, but the good news is it's only a few miles in to base camp and then we play from there. My main advice to him is pack as light as he can while still bringing what he needs, and pack with the heavy bits down low. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules
My biggest and most consistent violations are #33 and (obviously) #43 On Friday, September 6, 2013 5:41:52 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote: Rats. Looks like there are one or two I haven't broken yet. Need to get out there and work on them. Now, how to attach a mirror... Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: The only one that matters is Rule #5. Next time I'm in the shop getting some tattoo work done, I'm seriously considering adding it. Long live the Velominati Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Celebrity Riv Sighting
Tom Berenger would be a lot more palatable if he was riding an Orange Samuel Hillborne with M-Bars and a peekapooh in West Oakland. On Thursday, September 5, 2013 6:36:28 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: Cool - I was afraid it would be Tom Berenger On Thursday, September 5, 2013 12:54:15 AM UTC-5, William wrote: but no pictures... so it didn't happen Traffic on the Naughty Nimitz was looking bad on the flyover, so I took the 7th Street exit in West Oakland. At the stoplight who rides by? Manny on his orange Hillborne. I didn't honk, I just watched him roll by in his natural habitat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rivs and Yakima Racks
Eric is right. I've filed off the lawyer lips on every bike that has had them, and I use a Yakima rack every day to clamp my fork tips. On Thursday, September 5, 2013 9:07:55 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: If it holds the front fork by clamping onto the dropouts, the fork doesn't need lawyer lips. Just make sure the skewer on the rack is tight. --Eric Norris Email: campyo...@me.com javascript: Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy On Sep 3, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Brian labrecq...@yahoo.com javascript: wrote: Hi All, So, I just purchased a Yakima Boa roof rack, missing the fact that says it's designed for forks with safety tabs (lawyer lips, right?). Anyone using such racks with their Rivs? I can't use my old Yakima one piece Steelhead because of the fender, hence the purchase of the two part rack. I don't really want to spend the money for an upright rack. Any similar racks out there that will fit round crossbars and securely hold my Sam? Thanks in advance for any insight and advice. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules
I think the majority of The Rules are good rules. I break plenty of them, and obsessively follow a lot of them as well, even some of the pointless ones. I bet I follow more of the rules than Manny does. But I'm much more of a poser conformist than Manny is. On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 8:55:28 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: By far one of my favorite bike blogs to read. Kinda of bias since I'm friends with these gentlemen. But nevertheless fun read. http://www.boyzonthehoods.com/lets-talk-about-the-rules/#comment-278 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Neato new light system.
I will vouch for Carlos Duque who wrote that blog review. I trust his review like I would trust a close relative who works at a bike shop and rides a freaking lot. I will also trust Eric's review. :-) On Thursday, September 5, 2013 3:05:33 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: I ordered a front light. I'll report back to the group on my experiences with it. --Eric Norris Email: campyo...@me.com javascript: Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: wrote: I love the concept. If anyone gets actual experience with the lights, I'd love to know if there is any flicker to the beam. In the videos, there seems to be flicker, whick would overload my brain and end me for the day (not to mention the ride). With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:46:24 AM UTC-6, Clayton wrote: I found this on a facebook post and thought I'd share. No batteries, no wires, no charger, no generator hub or bottle, no solar panel, no drag, and lightweight. Magicexcept for the price, but maybe cheaper than a high end hub system? (I have no connection to this product or company whatsoever..) It helps to see the reviews, especially the one on bikehugger.com What are your thoughts? http://bike.duque.net/review-the-magnic-lights.htm Clay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules
90/92 rules are complete horseshit That's a bit hyperbolic, isn't it? Here are ten that are good (not the only ten) #2: Be a good example #3: Help those that have things to learn #6: Don't think too much. Enjoy the ride #9: It doesn't have to be sunny to ride #14: Black cycling shorts look better than colored cycling shorts #15: Black cycling shorts look better even for the guy leading a Grand Tour #16: Only somebody who has won a big race should wear a champ jersey #17: Only paid pros should wear pro kits #19: Introduce yourself when you ride with strangers #22: Cycling caps are for cycling If any of those were complete HS, you could invert them and make them better. The opposite of any of those is a lot worse, unless you think it's cool for amateurs to wear pro team kits. Or unless you think it's better not to introduce yourself or not help newbies. Lots of those rules are good. Not all of them, but a lot of them. On Thursday, September 5, 2013 6:48:21 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Hutch wrote: 90/92 rules are complete horseshit. I personally love #12 ( http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#12 ) and #5 ( http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#5 ), respectively. I recognize the conflict because if I was a bit harder, I would be able to get by with a single steed, rendering #12 moot. A Hilsen or Bombadil or Atlantis would do the trick. But if I was a bit harder, I'd be able to get by with a Quickbeam or Simple One. But if i was a bit harder, I could...I could go on and on about how different life would be if I worked on #5. But #12 is so much more fun. And easier. -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Celebrity Riv Sighting
very good. my best celebrity sighting was jay and his hillborne at the junction cafe 20 miles from nowhere -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Celebrity Riv Sighting
but no pictures... so it didn't happen Traffic on the Naughty Nimitz was looking bad on the flyover, so I took the 7th Street exit in West Oakland. At the stoplight who rides by? Manny on his orange Hillborne. I didn't honk, I just watched him roll by in his natural habitat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of stuff you should have bought when Riv had it...For Sale: a Trunk Sack Large
Bump! Still available. Now I have pictures, as well. On Friday, August 30, 2013 11:16:06 AM UTC-7, William wrote: I bought up a bevy of Riv Bags when they threatened that A. prices were rising, and B. the sweet metal tags were going away. Both threats became truth, and I'm glad I have a good collection of olive Riv bags that match. All except one. I bought a Trunk Sack Large, thinking that I'd use it on my R-14 top rack on rides where I didn't feel the need to carry a large saddlebag. It's been 3 years and I haven't used it once. It's time to pass it on. So, for sale is one of these: Trunk Sack Large Olive http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bastl.htm Just like these old pictures, mine has the metal badge instead of the sewn-on one that you get on all newer Sackville bags. Again, it's new never used. I might have snapped it onto the rack for a test fit once, but definitely never took it on a ride. I did not bother to take pictures, but I can take some tonight if necessary. $100 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of stuff you should have bought when Riv had it...For Sale: a Trunk Sack Large
As promised: photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/9656552934/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/9653318831/ On Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:18:09 PM UTC-7, William wrote: Bump! Still available. Now I have pictures, as well. On Friday, August 30, 2013 11:16:06 AM UTC-7, William wrote: I bought up a bevy of Riv Bags when they threatened that A. prices were rising, and B. the sweet metal tags were going away. Both threats became truth, and I'm glad I have a good collection of olive Riv bags that match. All except one. I bought a Trunk Sack Large, thinking that I'd use it on my R-14 top rack on rides where I didn't feel the need to carry a large saddlebag. It's been 3 years and I haven't used it once. It's time to pass it on. So, for sale is one of these: Trunk Sack Large Olive http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bastl.htm Just like these old pictures, mine has the metal badge instead of the sewn-on one that you get on all newer Sackville bags. Again, it's new never used. I might have snapped it onto the rack for a test fit once, but definitely never took it on a ride. I did not bother to take pictures, but I can take some tonight if necessary. $100 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and a Rusty Question
i assume thats my stumpjumper. are we cool or should i buy it back from you? whatever you think is fair. did you get it blasted? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Speaking of stuff you should have bought when Riv had it...For Sale: a Trunk Sack Large
I bought up a bevy of Riv Bags when they threatened that A. prices were rising, and B. the sweet metal tags were going away. Both threats became truth, and I'm glad I have a good collection of olive Riv bags that match. All except one. I bought a Trunk Sack Large, thinking that I'd use it on my R-14 top rack on rides where I didn't feel the need to carry a large saddlebag. It's been 3 years and I haven't used it once. It's time to pass it on. So, for sale is one of these: Trunk Sack Large Olive http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bastl.htm Just like these old pictures, mine has the metal badge instead of the sewn-on one that you get on all newer Sackville bags. Again, it's new never used. I might have snapped it onto the rack for a test fit once, but definitely never took it on a ride. I did not bother to take pictures, but I can take some tonight if necessary. $100 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Center-mount light mount. You have it laying around and would rather have a few extra dollars laying around....
Thank you. Very kind, but I'm covered. I have the mount in-hand. On Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:46:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I've got at least two spares, and you are welcome to one. Send me your address and I'll ship. No charge -- I'm returning Favors to the cosmic equilibrium. Patrick On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I have an idea for a little DIY project and the raw material I need is a heavy wire light mount. The fork crown mount that comes both of Riv's Luxos models looks like a good candidate for what I want to do. Link to Luxos-U on Rivhttp://www.rivbike.com/Busch-and-Muller-Luxos-U-Headlight-p/ltd-11.htm If you have that little chrome wire mount laying around with no use for it, drop it in an envelope for me! I imagine if I have to buy it from Peter White, I'll pay $10 shipped. Sell to me for a little less than that and we'll both be happy! Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] WTB: A. Homer Hilsen 55cm, 700c wheel size. FF only
For what it's worth, a few people (including Mile at Riv, and me) have run 700c wheels with skinny tires and short reach sidepull brakes on the 650B A Homer Hilsen. I did it just for fun, for a few weeks, and I keep the 700c wheelset around as an option. Since you are tearing down another bike for your build, keep that in mind that you could run two sets of wheels and have two pretty different bikes. Just a thought. There is not enough room for fenders, or anything bigger than a 700x28 tire On Friday, August 30, 2013 1:59:27 PM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: Change of heart and will try the 650b route. I just need to decide which bike to get, the Hilsen or the Hillborne, but I will ask this is another thread. Thanks for everyone's input as it help me rethink my decision. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Introduction and a Rusty Question
Hi Chris Just my opinion, but I'd probably take a chance on it if the price was right. First thing I would do is try to determine why is it rusting. Is it because the original owner ride it a ton on an indoor trainer and just sweated all over the thing? If so, then it's rusting from the outside -- in, most likely, and you could probably contain it. If it's because the previous owner left it parked along the side of his beach house for 5 years, and it's from salt air, then I'd be nervous, because then it could be rusting everywhere. In the context of an in-person inspection, I'd look at all the springs (brakes, derailers) and the chainring bolts and the cables. Those are things that CAN rust. If those are clean, I'd feel better. If those are all rusty, then I'd feel worse. Next, try to raise and lower the seatpost and the stem. Do they slide easily? Nice. Are they seized in place? No bueno. Let's say, hypothetically, that I liked the story the owner told me and I took a chance and bought it. First thing I'd do is take the headset and BB apart. Is there nasty rust in there? If I was the type that really wanted it taken care of for certain, I'd consider stripping the frame and fork completely, and paying $150 to have it powdercoated. I'd have another real good look at it after having it media blasted. If I didn't want to go that far, I'd sandpaper the rusted area to get a better look at it all, and clearcoat the area afterwards so I can keep an eye on it. On Friday, August 30, 2013 12:22:02 PM UTC-7, ChrisG wrote: Hi All, I've been following the group for a month or two now and have really enjoyed learning about your escapes. I've been a bike commuter (on a hardtail Brodie mtb) for most of my 22 working years, but that has really tapered off in the past couple of years. Turns out the mtb really wasn't a very good fit (sizing) at all, but when I was younger that never really bothered me. I also just came to the realization that at nearly 50 years of age, my chances of winning the TdF are diminishing quickly ;) so I also sold the harsh riding, low bar Al road bike I'd had for a decade. I recently went to a good shop, was fit for, and bought a new Surly LHT. It's completely rejuvenated my love for cycling. The bike is great, and the fit is very Riv'ish: frame is 2-3 cm taller than my previous road bike and I've got it set up very similar to the Riv recommendation for saddle and bar height. The LHT had been my commuter and touring bike over the summer and it's been great. But now I'm thinking that I'd like to add something a little more spritely when I want to ride without racks and hopefully fall less behind my two 100# kids who just fly up our very hilly terrain. And of course I'm thinking of a Riv. I can't afford anything new right now, but I've got a line on a used Rom that is in my price range. I haven't seen it in person yet (it's a 2-3 hour drive away), but I would go and try it before buying. I'm worried though that the frame has some rust. My Brodie has some some rust spots on the frame that I've covered with clear nail polish and they haven't seemed to cause a problem. The Riv Rom though has rust in some of the lugs and I don't know if this should be a major concern or not as I've never had experience with this. The seller was kind enough to send me a pic of the worst spot and I've attached below. Hopefully the photo is large enough for you to see (I have it much larger, but the groups editor compresses it). Anyone have experience with rust in/near the lugs like this? Would this make you steer clear or do you think it is likely not a problem? Thanks in advance, ChrisG North Vancouver, BC https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zexlEvsSWmo/UiDwLvFrocI/AjQ/aFQtGBrwBBU/s1600/image-1.jpeg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet 50cm
OK, I'm tempted. I sent a littany of questions On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:18:54 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: Bump. Surprised this hasn't sold yet. If anyone has any questions or wants more pics or anything else, please let me know. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3Jgv4h7208grBhTcVALuABH718u5ryLZenjvWn0DTDEwSdXhACw On Friday, August 30, 2013 5:14:52 PM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: HaHa! Thanks for the laugh! I really needed it -- *From:* Jimmy Hutch ji...@jimmyhutchinson.com javascript: *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2013 4:08 PM *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind. Ape hangers would look badass on an Atlantis and they might allow you to hang on with your finger tips. I don't know how they would affect the elbow but they are cheap and may be worth a try. However, if you are 5'8ish, you should give up, grow a long beard, get a recumbent, and donate the Atlantis to this jerk. Good luck. -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Sl0ZYMGLF2k/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsub...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] For Sale: Nice 50T 110mm chainring
I bought a whole pile of chainrings from a lister. The one that I'll never have a chance to use is the 50T outer position, 110mm BCD ring. New in package for you. $15 shipped. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/9634275266/ No ramps no pins no problems -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Grin Fundo pics?
definitely one for fixing a stranger's flat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] DYI 40-26
I particularly like DYI. :) Yes, lower the FD a bit when the guard goes on. Just be careful it doesn't hit the chain stay. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Campee rear rack FS
Scott There are a lot of Nitto racks that have a Campee sticker on them. Do you know which Nitto Model you have? If not, then a combination of photos and info on what wheelsize it fits onto would probably help your prospective buyer know what they are getting with no surprises or disappointments. Bill On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:01:58 PM UTC-7, greenteadrinkers wrote: Hello, Just wondering if anyone might be interested in my Nitto Campee rear rack? Everything is in great shape, all the mounting struts, just seem to be missing the rack nut and bolts ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh1-20184.htm). Ideally I'd like to ask $125.00 +shipping. Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: Center-mount light mount. You have it laying around and would rather have a few extra dollars laying around....
I have an idea for a little DIY project and the raw material I need is a heavy wire light mount. The fork crown mount that comes both of Riv's Luxos models looks like a good candidate for what I want to do. Link to Luxos-U on Rivhttp://www.rivbike.com/Busch-and-Muller-Luxos-U-Headlight-p/ltd-11.htm If you have that little chrome wire mount laying around with no use for it, drop it in an envelope for me! I imagine if I have to buy it from Peter White, I'll pay $10 shipped. Sell to me for a little less than that and we'll both be happy! Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.
Boy that sounds pretty horrible. A former co-worker at the bike shop had pretty major hand and elbow problems as well, and the four things in life he really liked doing were: drawing, guitar, cycling and mechanic work. All four severely aggravated his conditions. I know it was hard. He did use a full-susp 29er for quite a while. He also used a recumbent for a while. On Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:36:24 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: I just got back from my Nerve doctor, a Physiatrist, pain specialist...I have had four total carpal tunnel surgeries. Three on my hands and one ulnar nerve relocation in my left elbow. The results from my latest nerve conduction study show that I have rather bad nerve damage in my left elbow that is permanent. Riding antagonizes the pain and numbness. I ride a Rivendell Atlantis and it has been pretty much my only bike for the past 20 years or so. I run a White Brothers suspension seatpost, B-17 saddle, 2.2 wide tires at 40 psi, 100mm dirtdrop stem at max extension and woodchipper bars. I wear gel gloves and use brooks handlebar tape. I see two options. Sell my Atlantis (oh God NO!) and buy a 29er with a front suspension fork or full suspension (I have a bad back and have had multiple back surgeries) or run my air pressure at 20psi with ridiculously fat handlebar padding. I have very little weight on my hands as the *bottoms of the drops are level or higher than my saddle*. I have tried flat bars, bike fits, noodles, alt bars etc. The wood chippers are the most comfy so far. Does anyone have any experience with numb hands and cyclist palsy? I am counting on the collective mind...P.S. I have been a race team mechanic, a racers coach and managed bike shops, so I am somewhat knowledgable on bike fit and options. Also I can't ride stooped over due to my back problems, ie; road bike position. Rest isn't an option, because I refuse to own a car (PTSD issues) and the bike is my only transportation. Help? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] WTB: A. Homer Hilsen 55cm, 700c wheel size. FF only
There must've been more than a half-dozen 700c 55s made, since it is a size you can order right now at the same price as any other size. On Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:07:36 PM UTC-7, Dan wrote: FYI the two for sale may have been the same bike. I bought one the list a few years ago and then sold it on the list this spring. I think there were only a half a dozen or so 55cm AHHs made. Dan Abelson On Aug 29, 2013 2:22 PM, blakcloud blakc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I know this bike is rare but there were one or two for sale on this board in the last few years. A. Homer Hilsen 55 cm with 700c wheel size. Looking for frame and fork since I have almost everything else. Not interested in the 650b version yet, though it may come to this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] WTB: A. Homer Hilsen 55cm, 700c wheel size. FF only
Yes, blakcloud, I assumed you were asking because you wanted a used one at a fair used price. I pointed out that you can order one from Riv just to dispute the assertion that very few of them were ever made. Even though the text on the description page does not list a 55, I know that they will take your order for a 55, and will recommend a 55 if that's the right size for you. The drop down menu for the sizes you can order does list the 55. I pointed that out to encourage your search for a used one. I expect that there are a lot more than a half-dozen 55cm 700c Hilsens in the world. I sincerely hope you find one in the condition you want and at the price you want. On Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:54:04 PM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: William that is not what it states on the Riv site. 47-50-52-54-56-58 are for 650B wheels. 57-59-61-63-65-67-69-71 are for 700c wheels. Plus if I wanted new frame, I would have not posted here looking for a used one. A new one for me, is $2300 plus 75.00 shipping to an American address, plus Canadian tax which is 13%, when I bring it back over the border, which is kissing $2700 American dollars. With the currency conversion right at this moment, it would be $2845.Used will still be cheaper even with the other costs being constant. Dan, I should have bought your frame when I first saw it in the spring. At the time I was going to go the 650 route so I discounted it as a possible bike. Now I am kicking myself. I am in no rush. If one comes up, then great. If it doesn't there are plenty of other options open up to me. On Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:53:54 PM UTC-4, William wrote: There must've been more than a half-dozen 700c 55s made, since it is a size you can order right now at the same price as any other size. On Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:07:36 PM UTC-7, Dan wrote: FYI the two for sale may have been the same bike. I bought one the list a few years ago and then sold it on the list this spring. I think there were only a half a dozen or so 55cm AHHs made. Dan Abelson On Aug 29, 2013 2:22 PM, blakcloud blakc...@gmail.com wrote: I know this bike is rare but there were one or two for sale on this board in the last few years. A. Homer Hilsen 55 cm with 700c wheel size. Looking for frame and fork since I have almost everything else. Not interested in the 650b version yet, though it may come to this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Center-mount light mount. You have it laying around and would rather have a few extra dollars laying around....
I found one. Thanks. On Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:39:33 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: FWIW, I was getting some other things from Peter when I ordered mine, I don't recall what the shipping amounted to, but the mount was only $5.50 http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/light-mounts.asp#pricing (I used the BM Lumotec Fly canti mount...) On Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:09:39 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I have an idea for a little DIY project and the raw material I need is a heavy wire light mount. The fork crown mount that comes both of Riv's Luxos models looks like a good candidate for what I want to do. Link to Luxos-U on Rivhttp://www.rivbike.com/Busch-and-Muller-Luxos-U-Headlight-p/ltd-11.htm If you have that little chrome wire mount laying around with no use for it, drop it in an envelope for me! I imagine if I have to buy it from Peter White, I'll pay $10 shipped. Sell to me for a little less than that and we'll both be happy! Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: back problems
Two coworkers, Lance and Dave, just reconfigured their cubicles to stand-up format Lance is an ultra endurance athlete and has found that standing almost 100% of his waking hours helps keep foot issues at bay during events Dave is a life long code monkey who has no body issues yet but wants to keep it that way I could totally freak them out by moving my cubicle DOWN. We have an office yoga ball, maybe I'll take that for a test ride On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:06:44 AM UTC-7, bobish wrote: I started 6-7 years ago in my home office. Rigged up a system which I still use. Imagine all your paperwork, stapler, ruler, etc, on the floor, keyboard a level up, computer another level up still. (See photo in link). From there I added floor sleeping (no photo). Next was floor dining (photo). For dining, my wife uses the chairs with the back rest. I just sit on a pillow. For ultimate relaxation, I use a wooden back rest and pillow to lay down on floor to read and such (photo). I use chairs as well but I prefer the floor most of the time. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/870bpgvsdu2fyvi/JpHBcLcZb6 • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: back problems
Baby steps. It'll take me half the day to move my cubicle to the floor. Humans might have sat on the ground for 2 million years, but I've been sitting on a chair for 44. Let me ease into it..with only a tiny bit of abandon. On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:54:21 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Yoga balls don't fix the fundamental flaw of the chair position. We didn't sit like that for 2 million years. Now it's the only way to sit? With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:47:39 AM UTC-6, William wrote: Two coworkers, Lance and Dave, just reconfigured their cubicles to stand-up format Lance is an ultra endurance athlete and has found that standing almost 100% of his waking hours helps keep foot issues at bay during events Dave is a life long code monkey who has no body issues yet but wants to keep it that way I could totally freak them out by moving my cubicle DOWN. We have an office yoga ball, maybe I'll take that for a test ride On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:06:44 AM UTC-7, bobish wrote: I started 6-7 years ago in my home office. Rigged up a system which I still use. Imagine all your paperwork, stapler, ruler, etc, on the floor, keyboard a level up, computer another level up still. (See photo in link). From there I added floor sleeping (no photo). Next was floor dining (photo). For dining, my wife uses the chairs with the back rest. I just sit on a pillow. For ultimate relaxation, I use a wooden back rest and pillow to lay down on floor to read and such (photo). I use chairs as well but I prefer the floor most of the time. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/870bpgvsdu2fyvi/JpHBcLcZb6 • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Faster Fat Tires
There is some possibility that someday you'll see a Hetre Extra Leger in all black. There is a precedent: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/grand-bois-extra-leger-in-all-black/ If you want to go a little wider, maybe check out the Vee Rubber Speedster: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-VEE-RUBBER-VEE-SPEEDSTER-650B-x-1-95-MTB-TIRE-FREE-SHIPPING-/130905000420?pt=US_Tireshash=item1e7a8bc9e4 That's 650Bx49 or so and it's all-black On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:53:50 AM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote: So Rivendell gave me Conti Tour tires on my new Sam. While they are OK they definitely are sluggish compared to other tires I have used. I would like to stay with a fatter tire on this bike but would like something a little swifter. It doesn't really need to be road racer fast or anything but something designed to be a little faster would be nice. My restrictions are that I need a 650B tire and I would prefer to get ones that are all black. I am flexible with the second one. Are Pari Motos my main choice? Are they strong enough for occasional rail to trail use? If possible I would like to stay that wide or wider. Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Limited Edition Betty Foy Color
It's good to have choices. Between the two I like the original better, at least on the monitor. Especially I prefer the gold lettering on the Betty Foy decal. That said, if they hadn't shown a picture of them both side by side, I might not have recognized the difference. Both are really great looking. On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:26:44 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Appears the RBW team is going back and forth on whether it is green or blue. Whatever color, it looks great. Here's hoping it finds it way on some other Rivs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: back problems
A chuckle was precisely what I was after... Completely independent of this thread, yesterday I was at work and craving a cat-nap. I went to the smallest conference room which has a lock inside. I turned out the lights and had a 20-minute nap right there on the floor and felt like a million bucks afterwards. With parsimoniously throttled abandon, Bill Lindsay On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:41:44 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks for the chuckle! Great plan! Enjoy the shift. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:20:26 PM UTC-6, William wrote: Baby steps. It'll take me half the day to move my cubicle to the floor. Humans might have sat on the ground for 2 million years, but I've been sitting on a chair for 44. Let me ease into it..with only a tiny bit of abandon. On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:54:21 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Yoga balls don't fix the fundamental flaw of the chair position. We didn't sit like that for 2 million years. Now it's the only way to sit? With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:47:39 AM UTC-6, William wrote: Two coworkers, Lance and Dave, just reconfigured their cubicles to stand-up format Lance is an ultra endurance athlete and has found that standing almost 100% of his waking hours helps keep foot issues at bay during events Dave is a life long code monkey who has no body issues yet but wants to keep it that way I could totally freak them out by moving my cubicle DOWN. We have an office yoga ball, maybe I'll take that for a test ride On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:06:44 AM UTC-7, bobish wrote: I started 6-7 years ago in my home office. Rigged up a system which I still use. Imagine all your paperwork, stapler, ruler, etc, on the floor, keyboard a level up, computer another level up still. (See photo in link). From there I added floor sleeping (no photo). Next was floor dining (photo). For dining, my wife uses the chairs with the back rest. I just sit on a pillow. For ultimate relaxation, I use a wooden back rest and pillow to lay down on floor to read and such (photo). I use chairs as well but I prefer the floor most of the time. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/870bpgvsdu2fyvi/JpHBcLcZb6 • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
My Orange Bombadil and Orange Black Mt Road agree! On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:59:31 PM UTC-7, jim wrote: Yes orange is the best (IMO) color as my XO-1, Quickbeam, Bombadil and Black Mountain Monster Cross can attest! Congratulations! Jim (Madison) On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:52:07 PM UTC-5, Ryan wrote: And we know orange bikes are faster:) Orange has a pop to it that no other colour has. Amazingly , my X0-1 is still quite a vibrant orange... even though it is nearing its twentieth birthdaygot it in Sep 1993:) I've always thought those Quickbeams were special. 2 Rivs sometimes seems a bit greedy...but a QB or a Simple one still appeals. Enjoy. BTW, hope all you good folks in California are safe...I hear that this is a very bad season for wildfires...esp Yosemite park On Sunday, August 25, 2013 12:31:05 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Patrick, it's a beautiful bike that I am lucky to own! On 8/23/13, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: What a pretty orange! Young man at bike shop yesterday said he was ordering a Cross Check in one of the only two colors available, in his case black, and having the frameset powdercoated orange. I inwardly winced, but if it is anything like your QB's orange, it will be a beauty. Nicer than Eddy's orange! On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:02 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Jason. Everybody is happy about it! On 8/22/13, JL subf...@gmail.com wrote: David, What a great bike! Congratulations. Jason On Aug 22, 2013, at 7:43 AM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this
[RBW] Re: Saddles - A Weighty Question
Unfortunately it uses a 27.0mm diameter post( will check Paul or Thompson for this size) Check the IRD webstore for a nice looking seatpost at 27.0 on closeout. http://store.interlocracing.com/type2quad270mm.html No setback, though. On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:20:01 PM UTC-7, Ryan wrote: Or the Nitto S-83...I've switched over to these from my Campy one-bolters on my 2 Rivendells. I had a broken rail on one of my B-17's on my X0-1. Unfortunately it uses a 27.0mm diameter post( will check Paul or Thompson for this size). I'm under 200lbs but probably over 180. Cecily, experimenting with tilt as others suggest may help. Also , it's good to get out of the saddle from time to time. When I rode the Manitoba biking to the viking from Stonewall to Gimli Manitoba and back, I saw an awful lot of wide , cushy saddles. I reaaly believe the illusion of comfort they give is just that, an illusion On Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:52:31 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: With respect to adjusting the tilt of the saddle, I found that some seatposts are better than others at allowing one to make some pretty fine adjustments. If you are like me, my small female hands can't always tighten up a Nitto post with a good adjustment at the same time. I've found that I really prefer posts with two bolts fore and aft like the Paul Tall and Handsome or the Thompson Elite. Just something to think about. Good luck! Liesl (a.k.a. RCW) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Car free Crater Lake
~560 miles on bike from the Bay Area! I'll see you there! OK, maybe next year On Monday, August 26, 2013 12:15:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Zack, That's a good question...Train? ~Hugh On Monday, August 26, 2013 11:06:47 AM UTC-7, Zack wrote: how easy would it be to try and get there without a car from downtown Portland? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: My miniature AHH
OK, that does it. I'm going to start talking to Riv about the last of the 47cm Salukis. My son, then my daughter, and maybe even my wife, would each look great on one of those. Step 1, confirm that the three remaining unpainted Salukis have cantilever posts: CHECK! On Sunday, August 25, 2013 6:21:26 PM UTC-7, DianeB wrote: Cecily thought her 52 cm Betty frame frame looked small. Oh Cecily, now this is small! Here are photos of my 47 AHH. BTW, I really like the tires on your bikeCecily. http://www.flickr.com/photos/100067615@N06/with/9592934777/ I love this bike and I'm having so much fun riding it. I decided on the stock build for this bike, knowing that I'd eventually change a few things, but I thought I'd try the Riv build/philosophy first. I did get a B67 tractor seat since I knew I'd be sitting more upright. Pretty quickly, I changed the Schwalbe Marathon 42's out for some Nifty Swiftys that I had in the garage. Even at 65psi those Marathons rode hard! I REALLY like the Albas; they take all the pressure off my hands. (Significant pain and swelling in my thumbs and surrounding areas on each hand landed me on recumbents for several years.) I don't know if I'll keep using the sneaker peddles or go back to clipless. Thanks for looking at the pics! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Best picture ever On Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:50:16 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Design away the top tube. If you get the twin transect right you have plenty of structural support. We have mixtes, love'em. Ah, I had quite a bit of discussion on this very point while I was at Riv! I've been, shall we say, an extreme tomboy ever since 1959 (the year I pooped out) . One of the things this means is that I have had a knee-jerk reaction to what gets perceived as girls' bikes. You can see how this plays out in the attached photo of me circa 1963 having stolen my brother's Raleigh and matching Green Bay Packers football uniform. It's kind of a nice Deacon-Patrick-barefoot-safety-football-helmet mash-up but I think my pbh was a little off to actually go for a spin. But I think the photo makes the case for my inveterate tomboy personality trait. I entertained a mountain mixte long and hard coming into this custom adventure. As I was making the decision in 2006 that led to my Saluki, I rode a Glorious and just didn't fall in love with it. Then when I was at Riv for a few days this past March to figure out the custom, I rode a Betty to the grocery store (on a Riv mission for 85% chocolate) but I don't even think I got two blocks before coming back and asking for the Appaloosa again. They just didn't feel right to me. The subject of my self perception and perceptions of gendered bikes came up in talking about all of this with Grant and the crew. It was interesting talking to the Riv Chicos who talked about having had to overcome the mixte-as-girl-bike stereotype as they became fans and owners of Bettys/Yves/Gloriouses/Wilburys. The Riv Chico boys are doing way better than Riv Chica me as I have not been able to bend my own gender bending. I need a top tube. Oh, and the Phil rear hub won't be a freewheel. -Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. I totally agree with you there. Very useful and very non-confusing. That's why I have that setup, with bar-con shifters on both my touring bike and my tandem. It's fantastic! Furthermore, I'm glad we completely agree about compact doubles. You run your bike like a compact double -PLUS- a granny bail out for extraordinary circumstances that you practically never use. That's precisely how I use my touring bike and my tandem. A close range 46/36 compact double would be fine for you, just like it is with most people, but like a lot of people, you also choose to be prepared for extraordinary circumstances. I have no problem with any of that. Also, it doesn't surprise me much that when you tried a 44/30 and a 40/26 that you found the enormous jump troublesome, particularly on rollers. As you correctly pointed out, people have to find what they like on the terrain they will be riding. I end up using my 44/30 as a 1x9 (or 1x10 on one bike) PLUS a climbing range. If my riding was more on the Pacific coast, where there are a ton of rollers, I would probably swap my 30 tooth ring for a 32 or a 34, because the terrain would dictate far more frequent front shifts, as you correctly pointed out. On Friday, August 23, 2013 5:35:44 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from small to large chain ring. It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it. It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I don't have to use the granny.A wide range double, on the other hand, is shifted often. However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the standard Riv 110/74 compact triple is a better solution for most riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of triple and don't find them even slightly confusing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: messing around with my Hunqapillar
I love Love LOVE the grey + orange Hunqa-look. I almost bought myself one just because it looked so awesome. Nevermind the overlap, always plus one On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:33:50 AM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: I used the VO stem adapter with drop bars on my Hunq. It was fine. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KBapuNJORZ8/TVmZD7MfEXI/BL4/keLB-fuMvPI/s320/IMG_0389.JPG There were no problems, even thrashing around on single tracks in the forest. The only problem was my knees makeing inadvertent shifts for me. After a year of using Bosco's on my Hillborne, dropped the drops and put Bullmoose Bosco's on the Hunq and am a lot happier with them.http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2013/08/err-towards-practical.html Marc On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:01:12 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote: I like riding my Hunqapillar a lot. I also like fussing with it. I'm thinking of taking my 44 Noodles off and putting them back on my 650B rando bike and going with some mountain bars on the Hunq. I like the Bullmoose bar that Riv sells. But it's not cheap. I also really like the looks of the Jones Loop Bars. But I'd need a threadless adapter (Velo Orange and others sell them) or an open face quill--Salsa used to make one--and Profile Designs, Origin-8 and others still do. So, I wonder if anyone's used a threadless adapters or open face quills? They look fine to me. Better yet, anyone have a Salsa non-recall model open face quill stem for sale http://www.salsacromotostem.com/? Or perhaps a Nitto Bullmoose? Thanks Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
And what are those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage? Gotta picture? Not exactly. Here's something close: http://ladyfleur.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/mixte-bike-on-caltrain.jpg?w=640 It's easy to see where you might mount a bottle cage on the downtube, but on your bike, which will have a top tube, I was thinking you might want the bottle cage mounted to the diagatubes. But there are two of them! Bridges spanning the gap could then possess the braze on for a bottle cage. In this picture the bridges serve as cable stops, but it is a similar idea. I remember seeing them on a double-downtube Colnago, like this: http://www.trackosaurusrex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/NagoBondedDouble.jpg On Friday, August 23, 2013 4:53:08 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, What a tutorial in gears! I'm learning quite a bit! A few comments on that topic from my perspective: I'm in the Edwin W camp. Simple shifting, a bail-out gear...that'll do for me. I, too, ride a single most of the time and I expect to keep my triple Saluki, and my 1x8 Friday is just swell. I live in Minneapolis and most of my riding is my 20 mile commute with only one big hill so this set-up gear-wise will be just fine for me. On the diagatube front, yes, William, they will tentaculate back to the whimsical seatstay/chainstay curls. It will be way cool. And of course, there will still be a top tube. And what are those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage? Gotta picture? On the delivery schedule: Riv is waiting for some tubes, then it will go to Mark Nobillete and he'll have a month/month and a half and then to Joe Bell and he'll also have a month/month and a half, so November would be pushing it. I want to fly out to Riv for the build and be a fly on the wall, so we'll see. On the color front: Khaki WWII green. Thinking about wood fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Well-known FACT: orange is the fastest bike color. It's also great to see it with Noodles. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:43:24 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
I love the twin mixte style diagatubes! Am I thinking correctly that they will be side-by-side from headtube back to seat tube, at which point they will splay out and tentaculate back near the dropouts, one curving up to a seatstay, the other curling down to the chainstay? Will Mark Nobi be brazing on those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage onto those twin diagatubes? Whatever they come up with it sounds sweet On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:08:36 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Here's some fun news! I talked with Mark at Riv and there seems to be a groovy design solution to having a really small frame (in the 50cm range) with a diagatube! When last you tuned in (if you tuned in at all), you might recall (or might not) that Grant said that getting a diagatube, lugs, and clearance for 55mm tires and fenders was like trying to get 4 balls into 3 and a half holes. Here's how it's likely to go: 26 wheels (already knew that) and— —*double* small diameter old school Mixte-style diagatubes that are mitered and fillet brazed somewhere about the head tube. Where it's brazed to will be Mark Nobilette's choice; could be to the top tube, could be to the head tube, could be to the bottom tube. Mark was quite excited as he described it. It would be truly totally custom. Current thinking on the build kit is as follows: 58 Boscos, Meisha's Cork (normal), Paul Thumbies + Shimano BarEnds, brake levers to be determined, Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset Phil Rivy Hub - Rivy 32h Rear Hub, New SON 28 32H Front Hub, 26 Aeroheat Rims, Schwalbe Big Bens Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t, VP Thin Gripster pedals Brooks Champion Flyer select, Paul Tall and Handsome seatpost As always, your thoughts are welcomed! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
40 x 26 is plenty. Run the numbers with any normal cassette. Compact double is all most people need. You need a triple carrying or hauling lots of weight, and maybe need it for serious off road riding. But if you lay out the numbers, an intelligently selected compact double gives you everything you need and nothing you don't need. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:32:06 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Would it take a triple crank? I am just thinking that a 40t x 26t. double crank seems like it needs a middle ring. 40 would be too high to stay in for long, I would think, unless you are on dead flats or downhills, or a strong rider (I couldn't do it). The small ring would be too light, I would think, unless doing lotsa steep uphills, or loaded touring. Just throwing out some thoughts. Sounds like it is gonna be a great bike whatever you choose though! Enjoy! And be sure to post pics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Steve buddy 1. I would never categorize you in most people, so you can be totally right about your gearing choices without disproving my assertion that most people can do just fine with a compact double. :-) 2. This is another datapoint proving that you've been unfairly maligned as a Jan Heine disciple. You like cantilever brakes and triples. If you were a true Jan-zealot you'd be on centerpulls and compact doubles. Steve learns from many, but makes up his own mind, people! 3. I agree that a compact double with an ultrawide cassette has big jumps. What I meant by a normal cassette was more like an 11-26 or an 11-28 with a 44/30. If you cannot possibly live without a sub 22 gear then I agree that a triple provides better coverage. On my touring bike I happily run a 3x8 where I need really low gears. In general I agree 300% with your approach: Pick your high gear and your low gear and design it to cover the space with acceptable jumps, keeping an eye peeled for chain line. Double shifts are a lot less troublesome to me than you make it sound when my left side shifter never has to trim. Slam it against the stop for the big ring. Slam it against the stop for the small ring. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:02:18 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 06:41 PM, William wrote: 40 x 26 is plenty. Run the numbers with any normal cassette. Compact double is all most people need. You need a triple carrying or hauling lots of weight, and maybe need it for serious off road riding. But if you lay out the numbers, an intelligently selected compact double gives you everything you need and nothing you don't need. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:32:06 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Would it take a triple crank? I am just thinking that a 40t x 26t. double crank seems like it needs a middle ring. 40 53.8 % 26 11 98.2 63.8 18.2 % 13 83.1 54.0 15.4 % 15 72.0 46.8 13.3 % 17 63.5 41.3 11.8 % 19 56.8 36.9 10.5 % 21 51.4 33.4 9.5 % 23 47.0 30.5 8.7 % 25 43.2 28.1 12.0 % 28 38.6 25.1 14.3 % 32 33.8 21.9 OK, here's the 40/26 with an 11-32 10 speed cassette. The range is just fine: 22 low, 98 high. Can't be bettered. But what happens inside the range? In the terrain I ride most, I'd stay on the big ring all the way down the block until I was forced to shift -- and I would be forced to shift every time it got steep, because 39 is not enough for me on 9-10% grades. What happens then? Let's say I go from the 40 to the 28T chain ring. Now I'm in a 25 gear, and that's so low I'm going to think I dropped the chain. I'll be looking for a gear lower than 38 inches, something in the mid to low 30s. Whatcha got? Upshift 4 and you get a 37, just about the same as where I was. Upshift 3 in back and I get a 33. I can live with a 33 -- but can I live with having to upshift 3 each time I cross over? I don't think so. That 54% difference in the chain rings means you can't ever just shift the front and keep on truckin', the jump is just too much. Unlike, for example, the 10-tooth difference between my 36 and 46T chain rings. There, if I'm feeling lazy or the terrain is steepening fast, I just shift the front and go from a 52 gear to a 40.5 -- something you can live with -- or I can upshift 1 and get a 46, next in sequence. What about up at the top end? 98 is a nice top end, in fact it's what I have now. But where's that 88.7 I have? Missing. Next gear is 2 teeth down, an 83. That's a hole I'd trip on often. For reference, here's my gearing with a 9 speed 13-30 cassette: 46 3624 95.5 74.8 49.8 88.7 69.4 46.3 82.8 64.8 43.2 73.1 57.2 38.1 65.4 51.2 34.1 59.1 46.3 30.9 51.8 40.5 27.0 46.0 36.0 24.0 41.4 32.4 21.6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
Michael Glad I could help Bill who has a nice pair of eyeleted 559 rim-brake rims on the hook just in case I ever go back to 26ers Lindsay On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:08:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Thanks for the post. I forwarded it to my son who is trying to build up a new SOMA MtB and was feeling discouraged about the price of mid level rims. He bought two right on the spot. Michael On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:14:48 PM UTC-4, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:07:26 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 07:25 PM, William wrote: Steve buddy 1. I would never categorize you in most people, so you can be totally right about your gearing choices without disproving my assertion that most people can do just fine with a compact double. :-) I make no comment about most people. I've not done any sort of quantitative comparison and have no data. Every one has their individual gearing needs, and it pays to figure out what you need given your body, your fitness and the terrain in which you ride. 2. This is another datapoint proving that you've been unfairly maligned as a Jan Heine disciple. You like cantilever brakes and triples. If you were a true Jan-zealot you'd be on centerpulls and compact doubles. Steve learns from many, but makes up his own mind, people! I like centerpulls, too. One of my bikes has Mafac Raids, another has brazed on Paul Racers. I also like dual pivot sidepulls, in the right situation. 3. I agree that a compact double with an ultrawide cassette has big jumps. What I meant by a normal cassette was more like an 11-26 or an 11-28 with a 44/30. If you cannot possibly live without a sub 22 gear then I agree that a triple provides better coverage. On my touring bike I happily run a 3x8 where I need really low gears. Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. That insures that regardless of the cassette, when you do a front shift you will have a big, big difference between gears compared to a more typical 10 or 12 tooth shift.You also have to decide how large spacing between gears is good for you, and where in the range you like it close, vs where you like it wider (Patrick has written extensively on his preferences here, as has Jan; I couldn't live with either Patrick's or Jan's.) In general I agree 300% with your approach: Pick your high gear and your low gear and design it to cover the space with acceptable jumps, keeping an eye peeled for chain line. Double shifts are a lot less troublesome to me than you make it sound when my left side shifter never has to trim. Slam it against the stop for the big ring. Slam it against the stop for the small ring. Trimming isn't a problem for me (as a bar end shifter user). If/when I do it, I hardly even pay it any conscious attention. What you have to go through to do a double shift and stay reasonably in sequence is important to me. I would go mad if every time I needed a gear below 40 inches I'd have to cross over and upshift 3 or 4 at the same time, and I'd go mad if every time I shifted to the small ring it felt like I'd dropped the chain, or if every time I shifted from the small to the large chain ring it dropped my RPMs by half and doubled the pedal effort. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Not a Riv, but I wish there were more old barns in San Diego
That is Dy No Mite! On Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:02:35 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: This is just awesome.http://hetchinspete1.smugmug.com/Other/Jack-Taylor-Tandem-Circa-1966/31372033_pNCzC9#!i=2716379116k=Nnx9JR7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Fast Freds!
They will weigh substantially less when you slice off those extraneous side knobs. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:32:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Ordered three Furious Freds from Wiggle in the Eew Kai on Monday. DHL delivered them at 3 pm US MDST today. $178 shipped for three. They each weigh a true 360 grams for the 622X2 size. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?
36, 40 and 48 degree options Those are spoke hole drillings. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:14:55 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Be GOOD to Yourself ... -Thanks Garth! :) Love this comment. So you got me on Phil's site... $400+ for a cassette hub? Out of my league I'm afraid. Looking at the FW Touring hub's there are 36, 40 and 48 degree options... hate to ask the dumb quesiton but what does that mean? Anyone used Paul Component's hubs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How much do you carry on your S24O?
For an S24O I tend to bring whatever I feel like bringing. Sometimes that includes a hardcover book (gasp!), maybe a bottle of wine and an opener (double gasp!). Maybe a deck of cards (#faint). Sometimes my S24O starts at the end of one workday and ends at the beginning of the next workday, which means I might be carrying my laptop (#conniption). My cargo rarely includes a live crab. Only Manny packs live seafood for S24Os, AFAIK As a sometimes gram-counter, I'll pull together the same kit you have below and weigh it. I know my bag and mat are light. I've got a roomy solo tent a tiny bug bivy a hammock. I use a stuffable pillow. For morning coffee I do a drip cone thing which is a lot lighter than a press, probably On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:09:21 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: I am not interested in fern elves who sleep under leaves or those who can build a house at the campsite from available materials What is a nominal weight? With everything I could want, I am coming in at +22 pounds. I am trying to pare that away. If I were to take everything, it would include,,, Sleeping bag Sleeping bag liner Compression Sack Pillow Pad Tent Tent Footprint French Press Titanium cup Stove Fuel bottle Cooking pot Utensils bucket camp suds towel sacks egg holder bottles and a few other things for breakfast, camp clothes. Having accumulated all of this from backpacking, I am now figuring out where to pare down. I have been practicing with Sam and the weight. Best regards, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cockpit Change-out's
William - The thumbie's as a vehicle to swap the shifters is really cool, I hadn't thought about that. I'm not entirely wedded to keeping bar-end's so I'm going to have to look at that. Do the thumb(ie) bases stay on their respective bar's or move when you swap bars? It depends. When I bought the SOMA version, I did so because they were hinged. At that time the Paul originals were not hinged. With the hinged SOMA version you can clamp them with the shim on the bullmoose, and clamp them without the shim on the tops of the Noodles. Also, I lied, or forgot. You do have to remove the shift cables to get the barcon shifters out of the barcon adapter that stays in the end of the Noodles. Duh. I haven't done that swap in a LONG time apparently and the memory is going. My apologies. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:22:47 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Bobby, That's awesome. Exactly what I was wondering about. Glad to see it does work well. William - The thumbie's as a vehicle to swap the shifters is really cool, I hadn't thought about that. I'm not entirely wedded to keeping bar-end's so I'm going to have to look at that. Do the thumb(ie) bases stay on their respective bar's or move when you swap bars? Michael - Alba/Moustache to Noodles is exactly what I'm thinking about having as my swap... Right now I run the bar-end cable housing under about 3-4 inches of bartape on the alba/moustache bars so there would be a re-wrap to swap them out, but that wouldn't be the worst thing. Especially when I'm just trying things out. To be honest, Im loving the original moustache bar's on the Atlantis. I've been running Alba's on my Trek for about 5 month's now (upside down) and like them as well. But on the Moustache bar's I find Im liking that the bar end grips end up straighter and less flared than the alba it's only been half a week though. Time will tell! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Slow Bicycle Movement Wins Fans - WSJ.com
Those are some UN-Racers, that's for sure. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:16:02 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: Perhaps of interest to some on this list ... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324823804579012611353639956.html#mod=todays_us_front_section I, for one, have been slowly inching towards this philosophy myself. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: messing around with my Hunqapillar
I have a Bullmoose cockpit and a Noodle cockpit at the ready for my Bombadil. The Noodle cockpit gets used a LOT more often, but that's just me. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:01:12 AM UTC-7, Christian wrote: I like riding my Hunqapillar a lot. I also like fussing with it. I'm thinking of taking my 44 Noodles off and putting them back on my 650B rando bike and going with some mountain bars on the Hunq. I like the Bullmoose bar that Riv sells. But it's not cheap. I also really like the looks of the Jones Loop Bars. But I'd need a threadless adapter (Velo Orange and others sell them) or an open face quill--Salsa used to make one--and Profile Designs, Origin-8 and others still do. So, I wonder if anyone's used a threadless adapters or open face quills? They look fine to me. Better yet, anyone have a Salsa non-recall model open face quill stem for sale http://www.salsacromotostem.com/? Or perhaps a Nitto Bullmoose? Thanks Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 22 Bridgestone MB-1 Frame and Fork
Congrats on the sale. Was that an 1987 or an 1988? On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:34:53 AM UTC-7, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: The frame has been sold On Saturday, August 3, 2013 1:17:21 PM UTC-6, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: I picked this up off eBay to build up as a commuter/cruiser but then found something better so I want to pass it along to a list member. If someone here could please crosspost this to the iBob list I would appreciate it. The frame has been powder coated and then never built up, no headset or bottom bracket has been installed. Photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96746370@N04/ $250 shipped CONUS Glen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: messing around with my Hunqapillar
I'm like Dave at Riv. I'm just a drop bar guy. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:09:29 AM UTC-7, Christian wrote: Yeah, the Noodle cockpit is pretty nice. Perhaps I'll just get another pair of 46 Noodles and interrupters--which I'd really like for trail use. Who knows!? Do you not use your Bullmoose set up b/c the noodles are simply more comfortable? Thanks On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:45:03 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I have a Bullmoose cockpit and a Noodle cockpit at the ready for my Bombadil. The Noodle cockpit gets used a LOT more often, but that's just me. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:01:12 AM UTC-7, Christian wrote: I like riding my Hunqapillar a lot. I also like fussing with it. I'm thinking of taking my 44 Noodles off and putting them back on my 650B rando bike and going with some mountain bars on the Hunq. I like the Bullmoose bar that Riv sells. But it's not cheap. I also really like the looks of the Jones Loop Bars. But I'd need a threadless adapter (Velo Orange and others sell them) or an open face quill--Salsa used to make one--and Profile Designs, Origin-8 and others still do. So, I wonder if anyone's used a threadless adapters or open face quills? They look fine to me. Better yet, anyone have a Salsa non-recall model open face quill stem for sale http://www.salsacromotostem.com/? Or perhaps a Nitto Bullmoose? Thanks Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
It's preposterously easy for me to vote Bay Area, since I'm local. I have done a lot of business trips in Chanhassen and I will corroborate that the MSP area is lovely in the Fall, so I vote for BOTH! On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:18:15 AM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote: I would like to see the twin cities, but I too find the 20 year anniversary connection persuasive. Another vote for the SF bay area. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv National Jamboree Poll
I voted for all three. I'm motivated to go, whichever one wins. I hope that doesn't spoil the poll. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:00:44 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote: I put one up at Doodle: http://doodle.com/skm8u4ges4gtxqt5 You can pick from: SF Bay Area July MSP Late Sept or Early Oct -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cockpit Change-out's
For shifters I run Shimano barcons on the Noodles, with the housing completely outside of the handlebar tape. There are SOMA Thumbie bases on the bullmoose, and the barcons screw right into those bases. Zero cabling on the shift side. You do have to use a screwdriver to remove the shifters, though, but there is no derailer cable adjustment happening. When I bought these: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh5.htm I removed the friction shifter part and used it on another bike. They happen to make the best friction barcons in the history of mankind (IMHO). For brakes I bought a bunch of these: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ca21.htm so I can have the cable assembly fully strung up out to this straddle carrier ahead of time. Now if I want to take the cockpit off, I free the shifters and using only my hands, I QR the brakes and free up the entire brake cable assembly from slotted guides. The straddles themselves stay attached to the bike. The other cockpit has the brake cables all set up, all the way down to the straddle carriers. I just put the housing into the right stops (that's why they are slotted!) and Bob's your uncle. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:57:38 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I was about to put this in Christian's 'Messing with the hunq' thread but decided it was just enough off topic... Question for William, or anyone else who has multiple cockpit's set up for a single bike I'd be interested in your thoughts for doing that. Specifcally if you have any tricks for preserving/extending the life of the cables... when you switch cockpits does the new one have a wholy new set of cables/housing already installed or are you stripping down the bars and re-cabling every time? I've swapped once on an MB-5 from Flat bars to moustache and then back to a flat (bulmoose) setup where I left the cables installed on the shifters but I ended up still replacing 3 of 4 cables by the end of the process. Has anyone looked into using the cable disconnects a-la the SS coupler bikes as a short cut for cockpit changeout? Given the versatility of the Atlantis I'm thinking you could have an awesome capability to go fat tire - upright bars, not-so-fat tire - drop bars... or vice versa. But I'd want to be able to easily do it in 30-45 min tops and not have to buy new cables all the time. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 22 Bridgestone MB-1 Frame and Fork
Cool. You measured the trail, didn't you? ;-) The 1987 is a nostalgic one because that's the one that came with drop bars. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:56:00 PM UTC-7, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: Based on what I could find on the interwebs it was an '88. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:57:19 AM UTC-6, William wrote: Congrats on the sale. Was that an 1987 or an 1988? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Traveling with a bike
I'm told that some airlines are more bike friendly (Southwest, maybe others) but have no personal knowledge of their rates limitations Just to chime in on this one topic. I was just researching Southwest and their boxed bike fee was raised from $50 to $75 as of February 2013. That's their printed 'policy' but you hear lots of anecdotes of them waiving the fee for some people. On Monday, August 19, 2013 11:41:09 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Michael: My Atlantis has done a bit of traveling, both by air by ground. While I'm not familiar with the box you reference, I can offer some thoughts in general. Within the US, look into shipping your bike ahead of time via ground service. Great Debate about who to use: Fed Ex or UPS; no clear winner there. However, both will take larger heavier shipments for less money than the airlines. I have a hard plastic case that is right at the magic 130 size (girth plus length) for ground services. Despite it's 30 lb weight, the Atlantis (usually 35 lbs) plus some other junk does not trip the overweight button. The convenience of ground shipping is you can send it directly to your destination don't have to hassle getting it to the airport. Downside of course is being without your bike for a few days. Airlines charge high fees (check with your specific carrier; it varies continuously) AND seem to universally impose HUGE overweight charges for checked baggage over 50 lbs. I have gotten the Atlantis packed into a cardboard box under 50 lbs but it meant no racks carrying some heavier components in other luggage. I'm told that some airlines are more bike friendly (Southwest, maybe others) but have no personal knowledge of their rates limitations. Having your bike with you on the plane is nice, but oversize luggage is the first to get bumped to the next flight (not always bad because they have to deliver it). Once at the airport, a boxed bike is a bit of an albatross to drag around a pain if you have to use a cab, bus or train between the airport your destination. As to actual containers, I've used the regular old cardboard boxes that bikes come to shops. They are good enough for one trip, free, and readily available. The do not offer the greatest protection and do require quite a bit of disassembly careful packing. Allow several hours for the process. Another option is to have a trusted LBS pack ship it for you. You'll of course pay for this service but if you find a shop that ships bikes (not all do) they'll have experience. This can be especially handy on the return. Source the shop ahead of time, drop the bike off it will appear back home in a few days. An open question is whether to reassemble at your destination or have a shop do it. I know people who feel better just having a shop do it all at both ends. There are good arguments on both sides of the question but it's an individual choice. dougP On Monday, August 19, 2013 9:22:56 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Slightly OT, but I posted this to the Lifestyle list with no response. I'll be flying cross country to the Bay area in OCT and am considering bringing a bike in an eBike Box. Does anyone have experience with this container? How large a bike will it hold? How many trips can you expect to get (the mfg says 4-6 but it would be nice to hear from real users? Has it done a good job protecting your bike? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How do you use YOUR Rivendell triangle?
Proof that Manny can get me out on a ride even if it's raining http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/6890720948/in/faves-45758191@N04/ On Sunday, August 18, 2013 8:25:40 AM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote: http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/daytondogg/9474630489/in/set-72157634623989172/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How do you use YOUR Rivendell triangle?
Proof that Manny doesn't mind having me in the frame with his favorite Mt Diablo tree http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/7219297968/in/faves-45758191@N04/ On Sunday, August 18, 2013 8:25:40 AM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote: http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/daytondogg/9474630489/in/set-72157634623989172/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How do you use YOUR Rivendell triangle?
Conspicuity is like security. If in doubt, add more. Vest or triangle? BOTH! On Sunday, August 18, 2013 4:45:45 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: I like those triangles. But I feel safer with a reflective vest. Level of reflective strips and bright colors are up higher, surface area bigger, and people in front as well as back can see it. I don't know if a vest is better for safety or not. I just feel more comfortable with a vest. Of course. I have a bad track record. I got hit by a car last year. Perhaps a triangle would have been better! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: That Betty Foy is some bicycle!
Super news. Enjoy it! On Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:46:37 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote: It's fantastic! I've always been a much slower rider than just about everyone else I know thanks to all the junk in my trunk, but today I actually felt like I could keep up with my faster friends for once. On Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:21:51 PM UTC-7, Evan wrote: Congratulations, Cecily! Isn't it great to discover that comfort and speed can go together so well on one bike? (I found the same thing with my Sam.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv downtube shifters
Lee It is the general consensus that the more cogs you have in back, the more precise the user of the friction shifter must be. Almost everyone agrees that there is a line, beyond which you have too many cogs in back and can no longer execute good shifts with friction shifters. The thing you will find if you go poll a lot more riders is where that line is between good and bad. My view of the space is 5-cogs everyone agrees this is perfect for friction 6-cogs everyone agrees friction works fine 7-cogs almost everyone agrees friction works fine (~98% of riders) 8-cogs a significant percentage of riders think this is where friction shifting becomes a problem. I'd estimate about 20% of riders say they won't run friction here 9-cogs It's a lot closer to 50/50 here. You will get a LOT of anectdotal YES votes and a lot of anectdotal NO votes. If there is a gray area, it is here 10-cogs You will hear occasional reports of trying it and hating it. Once in a while you'll hear somebody say I use it in friction and it's OK. but probably 90% or more agree index is better 11-cogs I've never heard of anyone trying it Me, I've never tried friction shifting on 10 or 11, but I have on several bikes with 9 speed. The only time I hated it was with a Dura Ace rear derailer. I switched that bike to index. With a short cage XT derailer, it's great, and I have that setup on 2 bikes. So the line for me is between 9 and 10, and 9 is a light gray gray area. On Friday, August 16, 2013 10:03:50 AM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote: Thanks for the replies everyone. I was not sure if Riv downtube shifters worked with 9 speed cassettes. I have read that 9 speed shifting is difficult using friction due to the smaller spacing for cassettes but I guess you have to acclimate to using smaller shifts to hit the right gear. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Johnny Alien johnn...@verizon.netjavascript: wrote: I use them with 9 as well. I wouldn't use them for anything higher though. The 9 works fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wheel weights
Patrick, you really are into the splitting hairs category now. My most recently built 584 front wheel tipped the scales at 647g. Yours is only 1100 grams heavier. What really do you have to gain? On Friday, August 16, 2013 10:03:48 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: This a. m. I weighed the front wheels of both Fargo wheelsets. #1: SnoCat Superlight laced with 32 14 g DTs to DH 3D72, including rim tape (ribbon from Joann Fabrics), allen skewer, 6-bolt rotor adaptor, and Avid 160 mm rotor: 1750 grams on my digital CPS* suitcase scale. #2: From what I have been calling my light wheelset: Sun Rhyno Lite laced to ditto, but with plastic rim strip. Weight of #2: 1750 grams. So the sole and only and unique and single and lone, particular and peculiar option for reducing circumference weight for this bike's wheelsets is a pair of Racing Ralphs or -- shudder of anxious anticipatory dread -- 300 gram Furious Freds. Help me, but I am about to jump into the sea of superlight tires, said sea infested by the goathead sharks. May Stan's save me! -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ma Petite Betty
The Red SOMA tires was a really good choice On Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:00:25 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote: I'm keeping track of the build and posting photos that the builder is sending along here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cecily/sets/72157635020456860/ On Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:29:43 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote: Well, the Betty Foy frame arrived today, and I'm absolutely thrilled about completing the build. I'm looking forward to many great rides together. There's just one thing: I've never actually paid attention to frame size before, so when I took Betty out of her very well-packed box, I was a little surprised by how small she is. I ordered the 55cm size as recommended by Keven, but she looks so small without all of parts. Is this normal? Should I measure her just to be sure? Cecily Vancouver, BC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?
1. Regular clothes for commuting. 2. Musa knickers over Devold wool undies for all distances over 20 miles when riding on a Brooks saddle. 3. Rapha bibs for all distances over 20 miles when riding on a skinny saddle. On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:26:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: What do you Rivendell riders wear on long rides? Centuries, metric or English, etc. I know there is a general anti-padded-shorts vibe that emanates from Walnut Creek. But I just cannot go more than 20 miles in regular pants without sweat-soaked undergarments just squeaking away against my flesh like a squeegee. Ouch!! I use LBS padded shorts for long rides but looking for something with a thicker pad and maybe bigger in the back for my upright Alba riding posture, since that puts more sitting area on the rear of the rear, so to speak. Thanks for any advice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?
I know there is a general anti-padded-shorts vibe that emanates from Walnut Creek. I think Grant is a LOT less anti than people seem to think. What's the worst thing Grant has ever said about padded bike shorts? In my experience, the worst thing he's ever said about padded bike shorts is his use of the term diaper. I think that's a very poorly chosen word, and it is insulting, and unnecessarily mean. Mark Abele wears regular padded bicycle shorts and I would bet a dollar that Grant does not insult Mark or Mark's clothing when he rolls in. Hey Mark! Nice DIAPER! I just don't see that happening. Grant's true stance, as I understand it, is not anti-padded-shorts. Grant is anti-the-industry-telling-you-that-you-MUST-wear-padded-shorts. Grant emphatically tells you to wear what works for you. Grant tells you to wear what you've got. Grant tells you that you don't have to think that you need to wear a bicycle uniform to operate a bicycle. If you want to wear bike clothes, go ahead. Just don't feel like you have to apologize to anyone if you want to ride your bike in Birkenstocks and board shorts. You don't need a walking uniform, so you don't need a bicycle uniform. First and foremost it is YOUR choice, and don't let anyone choose for you. That's what Grant says. Maybe I'm wrong about it, but on this topic I think many people misunderstand Grant's position. I believe that misunderstanding is part of what earns Grant the largely unfair reputation as a retro-grouch. He's not the least grouchy man I've met, but he's definitely on the less grouchy end of the spectrum, in my book. Stubborn on many things, sure. On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:26:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: What do you Rivendell riders wear on long rides? Centuries, metric or English, etc. I know there is a general anti-padded-shorts vibe that emanates from Walnut Creek. But I just cannot go more than 20 miles in regular pants without sweat-soaked undergarments just squeaking away against my flesh like a squeegee. Ouch!! I use LBS padded shorts for long rides but looking for something with a thicker pad and maybe bigger in the back for my upright Alba riding posture, since that puts more sitting area on the rear of the rear, so to speak. Thanks for any advice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Opniel knives
I found it pretty funny that both Opinel knives and artisan soaps are now on the new items page at Velo-Orange as well. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:03:43 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/Opinel-Knife-p/knife01.htm - Someone should tell Grant that Opniel will custom-engrave knives http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Glass/P3210134crop.jpg - it would be cool to see Riv-logo knives -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?
I suppose I need to go look up the real definition of the word snide, then. I always considered snide to be an adjective, meaning: 1. Derogatory or mocking in an indirect way: snide remarks I also considered mean to be on the list of synonyms for snide. I do applaud your double entendre, thick skinned. You have a literal thick-skin (butt-callouses) so you don't need bike shorts, and you have a metaphorical thick-skin so you aren't insulted by derogatory or mocking statements that aren't directed at you. Very well played. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:13:42 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I think diaper is a great name for padded shorts and I don't think it is mean at all. It's just snide. Of course, I must be thick skinned since I don't need one for my riding (though I have a few in reserve for those ever elusive 50 milers. Patrick diapers forever! Moore On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:55 AM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: the worst thing he's ever said about padded bike shorts is his use of the term diaper. I think that's a very poorly chosen word, and it is insulting, and unnecessarily mean. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Opniel knives
Yes, the funniness had nothing to do with who had them first, and I didn't intend to imply that anyone copied anyone. I only found humor in both establishments choosing to carry them this summer. Clearly both Grant and Chris used them as boys, just like countless others have. Maybe they'll both carry Wiffle Inc products, which are still miraculously made in Fairfield, Connecticut. Bill Heritage products! Lindsay On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:03:10 PM UTC-7, oldmangabe wrote: They are all the rage. Heritage products man, heritage products. To be fair, VO had the knives first. Most likely to mirror Riv's hatchets. It's a funny arms race brewing up. I like Opinel knives, been using one for a few years now. Still sharp, looks good. The ones Riv have are a bit too esoteric to actually be useful knives. IMHO at least. Gabe On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:12:35 AM UTC-7, William wrote: I found it pretty funny that both Opinel knives and artisan soaps are now on the new items page at Velo-Orange as well. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:03:43 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/Opinel-Knife-p/knife01.htm - Someone should tell Grant that Opniel will custom-engrave knives http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Glass/P3210134crop.jpg - it would be cool to see Riv-logo knives -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?
I hope your offensive collection doesn't spill over into my Irony Hall of Fame. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:21:12 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Patrick. Patrick. Patrick. Sigh. I take deep, personal offense at that. I don't care that it proves your point. I have an offensive collection and I needed this one. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:02:57 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: My purpose in my snide remark (not really snide, more ironic) was to say that sometimes we are far, far too earnest, and that we take offense far, far too easily. FWIW, I fully agree with Toshi that bike clothing has evolved for its usefulness and that one should wear it as and when it serves its purpose. Patrick Diapers! Onward and Upward! Moore On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:38 PM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose I need to go look up the real definition of the word snide, then. I always considered snide to be an adjective, meaning: 1. Derogatory or mocking in an indirect way: snide remarks I also considered mean to be on the list of synonyms for snide. I do applaud your double entendre, thick skinned. You have a literal thick-skin (butt-callouses) so you don't need bike shorts, and you have a metaphorical thick-skin so you aren't insulted by derogatory or mocking statements that aren't directed at you. Very well played. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:13:42 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I think diaper is a great name for padded shorts and I don't think it is mean at all. It's just snide. Of course, I must be thick skinned since I don't need one for my riding (though I have a few in reserve for those ever elusive 50 milers. Patrick diapers forever! Moore On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:55 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: the worst thing he's ever said about padded bike shorts is his use of the term diaper. I think that's a very poorly chosen word, and it is insulting, and unnecessarily mean. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?
I agree with this 1000% On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:59:19 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: I think GP wants you to be happy on your bike. And if that means wearing padded shorts, nylon shorts, denim shorts, diapers, or nothing at all, I expect he will concur (well, maybe not on the last one). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?
If I get offended that your offense collection ironically spilled into my Irony Hall of Fame, does my offense become a member of your offense collection or my IHoF, or BOTH!? Ouch my brain hurts On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:45:21 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Ironically, yes it does, William. Otherwise it would be less offensive. I can't have an offensive collection getting defensive about it's paranoia of becoming friendly, or worse, PC. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:37:42 PM UTC-6, William wrote: I hope your offensive collection doesn't spill over into my Irony Hall of Fame. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:21:12 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Patrick. Patrick. Patrick. Sigh. I take deep, personal offense at that. I don't care that it proves your point. I have an offensive collection and I needed this one. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:02:57 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: My purpose in my snide remark (not really snide, more ironic) was to say that sometimes we are far, far too earnest, and that we take offense far, far too easily. FWIW, I fully agree with Toshi that bike clothing has evolved for its usefulness and that one should wear it as and when it serves its purpose. Patrick Diapers! Onward and Upward! Moore On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:38 PM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose I need to go look up the real definition of the word snide, then. I always considered snide to be an adjective, meaning: 1. Derogatory or mocking in an indirect way: snide remarks I also considered mean to be on the list of synonyms for snide. I do applaud your double entendre, thick skinned. You have a literal thick-skin (butt-callouses) so you don't need bike shorts, and you have a metaphorical thick-skin so you aren't insulted by derogatory or mocking statements that aren't directed at you. Very well played. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:13:42 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I think diaper is a great name for padded shorts and I don't think it is mean at all. It's just snide. Of course, I must be thick skinned since I don't need one for my riding (though I have a few in reserve for those ever elusive 50 milers. Patrick diapers forever! Moore On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:55 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: the worst thing he's ever said about padded bike shorts is his use of the term diaper. I think that's a very poorly chosen word, and it is insulting, and unnecessarily mean. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Opniel knives
Gabe If that was coming down on me, I didn't take it as such. I'm typing this in my work cubicle, with a Wiffle Ball Bat leaning on my chair. I keep it in here just because it's a tactile thing to fiddle with, and it makes an impression when I carry it into a meeting. Oh crap, Bill means business! Duck! On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:28:54 PM UTC-7, oldmangabe wrote: Bill, I would be into Wiffle Inc stuff! Sorry to misinterpret your post and come down on you. I find it tiring to have people frequently creating binaries by pitting Riv vs VO, or BQ vs Riv, Giants vs A's, etc, etc. I guess I need to chill and not be on the forums for a bit. Later, Gabe On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:09:05 PM UTC-7, William wrote: Yes, the funniness had nothing to do with who had them first, and I didn't intend to imply that anyone copied anyone. I only found humor in both establishments choosing to carry them this summer. Clearly both Grant and Chris used them as boys, just like countless others have. Maybe they'll both carry Wiffle Inc products, which are still miraculously made in Fairfield, Connecticut. Bill Heritage products! Lindsay On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:03:10 PM UTC-7, oldmangabe wrote: They are all the rage. Heritage products man, heritage products. To be fair, VO had the knives first. Most likely to mirror Riv's hatchets. It's a funny arms race brewing up. I like Opinel knives, been using one for a few years now. Still sharp, looks good. The ones Riv have are a bit too esoteric to actually be useful knives. IMHO at least. Gabe On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:12:35 AM UTC-7, William wrote: I found it pretty funny that both Opinel knives and artisan soaps are now on the new items page at Velo-Orange as well. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:03:43 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/Opinel-Knife-p/knife01.htm - Someone should tell Grant that Opniel will custom-engrave knives http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Glass/P3210134crop.jpg - it would be cool to see Riv-logo knives -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives
I typed those Beastie Boys lyrics four different times and my internal filter said 'don't post'. I'm glad I didn't and I'm glad you did. :-) On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:15:56 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I did it like this, I did it like that I did it with a whiffle ball bat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Back to Earth 2
That's a really nice job he did. Of course I like the subtle yet obvious showcase of the mansie On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:33:35 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: A couple of months ago, my buddy Jesus Beltran of Zumpango Films and I went on a S240 to Half Moon Bay. You can read about it here. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGmF74X Again, Chin did a great job capturing the general feel for the whole ride. Not all great adventures are memorable for the things you want it to be. Video proved that Chin filmed it. http://vimeo.com/zumpangofilms/backtoearthtwo -Manny There's another one?! Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Stolen SimpleOne (Sacramento)
Can you share the framesize? Looks like a 58 to me. Do you know the SN#? On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, David wrote: These recovery attempts are a long-shot, but I have to try. My SimpleOne was stolen a couple weeks ago. Police report filed within 24 hours. No luck yet. Thanks for your time. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/3999794563.html https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rMvcRJamiMM/UgqXU5mKF0I/AOk/ypqr2q1Vksg/s1600/IMG_0292.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.
I love drops. I have drop bars on all my bikes. I run 'em high on the Bombadil, and run 'em low on my new lightweight rando bike. I run them in between on the other bikes, including my Hilsen. Drops are where it's at, for me. If I ever get around to a Betty Foy build, it also will be with drops. No question about it. On Monday, August 12, 2013 10:38:07 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Have had my Hilsen now 7 months I've done a California coastal tour, mini tour rumble and a multitude of mixed terrain rides and feel I have dialed in Homer well enough...was riding the other day and just had that feeling that Homer and I were fully integrated, symbiotic I knew what to expect handling wise and found my self in the drops with a full tank of steam and felt joy! I don't know but being in the drops cutting through the wind legs churning... though I'm an un-racer Homer whispered in my ear it's okay let's do it... let's race a little. And race we did stars and galaxies we raced; the fatigue you feel when you've expend some energy, beads of sweat sit up and breath relax and cruise cause Homers got me covered for that too. I've been told I'd love a set of albatross bars or M bars and I even got a chance to check out the new Albastashes on Manny' ride but I'm just not yet ready to discard the Noodles maybe in the future when my back complains or on another build but for now it's me the Hisen and the drops for as long as we can...Love the drops. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/9418447980/ Do you love the drops? ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Big Front Rack loaded on a Hunqapillar... am I crazy?
The final photo on the Betty Foy page shows a Betty with Sackville panniers up front and no rear rack at all! I think that's Keven's Betty Foy. Call him and ask him. I'm sure he'd be happy to talk about it with you. I know he loves his Betty Foy. On Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:15:42 PM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote: Right now, I run either a Large Saddlesack or panniers on a Nitto Big Rear Rack on my 54cm Hunqapillar, with a basket on a mini front for a little extra weight in front, and it works pretty good. But I'm curious if I wouldn't be happier with a Big Front Rack with panniers and a basket. Can anyone share there experience with this kind of load? I feel like I want more weight up front, more than I'm comfortable with putting on the Mini-Front, and I want the weight a bit lower, too. I'd probably keep the Big Rack in back for longer trips. I'm curious as to how it handles, both loaded and unloaded. Anyone run a setup like this? Thanks, Shawn M. Seattle, WA (Fremont) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Now the Bike Book and Hatchett T's are available
I've got so many Riv T's it's silly, but still the BBH version makes me smile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Pletsher Racks, Long Boards, Clamp-on DT Shifter Adapter
A few things that I think some here might be interested in. All prices include USPS First Class Shipping in CONUS. If you are outside that area and are interested, please contact me off list so we can talk about shipping costs. All inquiries welcome. PayPal only please. All items come just as shown in photos. Follow link to photos. Let me know if you need to see more. Thanks. 1.) Nitto R-14 Top Rack. Brand new. Came on my wife's Betty. She took it off right away. $100 2.) Pletscher Rat Trap Rack. Very little used. $25 3.) Clamp on down tube shifter bosses. These are Paddy-the-Peddlers excellent design using a stainless Norma clamp. Looks great and works great. I had these on my Sam. 31.8mm diameter. I think these would fit most Rivs that don't have DT shifter bosses brazed on already. Certainly all Sams. $25 4.) SKS Longboard Fenders P45s. Cream. Pair. Light use. $30 Hopefully the photos will show up below. Let me know if you would like to see more and I will email them. -Bill Nitto: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MWYDhITpd0c/UggHH2HyBwI/AGM/O08I4_vBQ8g/s1600/IMG_0020.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PrnYKtdVcdw/UggHUux-cCI/AGU/7GaAV1L8oP4/s1600/IMG_0022.JPG Pletscher https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TXI3TGXQ3II/UggHd5yCo0I/AGc/U_fJ6Eg6xJw/s1600/IMG_0023.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r7z96mPV-F0/UggHmpZcmjI/AGk/5QwTk9sRJYs/s1600/IMG_0024.jpg DT Shifter Adapter: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sMYr48v7GhI/UggHt206blI/AGs/B166CynGfXA/s1600/IMG_0026.JPG Longboards: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OzC-grXBOzw/UggH2UNfqXI/AG0/K5Us7BY9Iaw/s1600/IMG_0027.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Pletsher Racks, Long Boards, Clamp-on DT Shifter Adapter
Longboards are spoken for. Everything else is still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Pletsher Racks, Long Boards, Clamp-on DT Shifter Adapter
More on the Nitto R14 top rack. It came up if the stays were cut. And they have been to fit a smaller 650 Betty Foy. It's a 53 I think. I measured the length and they are 31.5cm with maybe a centimeter of adjustment available. I held them up to my 60cm Sam and no way would it fit. So get it if you have a smaller frame or I would consider letting it go for less to offset the cost of new stays. -Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Pletsher Racks, Long Boards, Clamp-on DT Shifter Adapter
Clamp on downtube shifter bosses are sold. The two racks are still available. -Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne
The reasons to pick the 40s are: more comfy, more durable, more traction, more safety, no slower The reasons to pick the 35s are: you are a gram-counter and want the lighter ones or you are forced to 35s because the 40s won't fit On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:29:15 PM UTC-7, Mark Taintor wrote: Thanks for all your thoughts everyone. I've been convinced to stay with the 700c wheels that it was designed for. Now as to my other question, 40mm Supremes vs 35mm Supremes? Any reason to pick one over the other? Mark On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Good one, Steve, and excellent point. If you decide that you don't mind the fact that you can't equip your bike with brakes in 1) then you could work around the too low BB in 2) by running too short cranks. Best of all, run no cranks or BB at all, since you'll probably want your feet on the ground anyway to provide Fred Flintstone braking. You could make it into an adult sized skuut bike! That would be fun! On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:32:36 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/07/2013 12:53 PM, William wrote: You can not run 650B wheels on a 700C Sam Hillborne. The reasons are threefold 2. Drop. Grant already dialed the frame design of the Hillborne for 700xfat tires. Among those things that are dialed is the BB drop. Run smaller diameter wheels, and *your already low BB height will be in true pedal-scraping territory. * Virtually all recent 700c Rivendells are lousy candidates for 650B conversion for that reason. The roadier Riv models of several years ago are good candidates because they were designed for 700xskinny and have less drop. ...unless you use very short cranks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Leaving RBW Owners Bunch
It looks like you're in like Flynn (whatever that means)!. I just heard about the source of that idiom on a replay of Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me on NPR. It's most commonly considered a reference to Errol Flynn, who had a notoriously easy time with the ladies. When you effortlessly accomplish something, you are in like Flynn. Google it, it's pretty entertaining stuff. There's one variant where in like Flynn means you effortlessly did something bad, and not only succeeded, but you also got away with it, unpunished. That also refers to Errol Flynn, who had to go to trial for his exploits with an underage girlfriend. He was acquitted, which added to his notorious rep. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:15:47 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: It looks like you're in like Flynn (whatever that means)!. Posts to the list are moderated 'til the admins have determined you're a real live Riv-person. Welcome! On Thursday, August 8, 2013 9:48:47 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: Much as I have tried, I am unable to post here. While there has been mention of dropped posts,and I have sent mail to the admin (doubt if he go it). I am done. Best regards to all of you Riv riders. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Greetings! - 64cm Atlantis?
Tony Build feedback. If you haven't tried the MKS Sneakers, give them a try. Maybe the sneakers will go on the Trek, freeing up the Grip Kings for the Atlantis, but every stable should have one set of sneakers. If you are dead-set on paying the money for Grip Kings, then treat your self to a pair of Thin Gripsters, also for comparison's sake. Your black Tektro brakes can be made silver. They polish up nice I have a wheelset you might like. Contact me off list and we could talk. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 6:37:44 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Well now that the introductions are complete I guess I need to start contemplating my build!!! Based on parts I've got lying around I'm planning an interim, minimal-investment build to get me riding and figure out my priorities. I'd love to hear feedback on it! 64cm Atlantis (unless a trade comes through for a 60-62 size) Stem - Nitto Dirt Drop H-bars - Original Moustache, friction bar-ends, (need some road levers) / I've also got a pair of noodle bars ready as an alternative Seatpost - SR long set-back model that came with the frame Seat - Brooks B67, black Pedals - needed... love my 'grip kings' on the Trek, probably ordering another pair Brakes - Tektro 720 Canti's (black... unfortunately) Crankset - TA triple (came with frame) Front Derailleur - needed... Rear Derailleur - Deore DX RD-M650 (old long cage originally for 7 speed SIS... think it will handle 8 or 9 speed friction?) Cassette/FW - needed, wheelset dependant Wheels - NEEDED... biggest hole. First option is to source on from my local co-op or the community of guys who belong there, second option will be a 'value set' from Handspun wheels via QBP (thanks Eric!) Tires - just noticed these Nomad 'Resist' 45mm lightweight slicks from QBP... not as fat as the big apples but I can get two for the price of one and it'll still be fatter than my current 42mm hetre's Other: Cable housing - color? Bar tape (newbaums's over inner tubes) - color? Fenders - SKS longboards... need to buy, I've got VO Zeppelin's on the Trek, but as the Atlantis will be offroad more having the quick release will be good. Lights - dyno lighting... The trek has a shimano hub and Supernova head/tail light combo. If the Atlantis becomes my primary commuter then I'd want to get the dyno setup over to it sooner than later. (700C dyno wheel build in my future) Bell - incredibell... waiting in the package for a new home Racks - NEEDED... some kind of front rack to support a wald basket She won't be the best dressed Atlantis out there right away... but I should be rolling within a couple weeks. What do you think?!? Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Frame trivia; Squeezed chainstays and double-tapered seatstays; Ram v. AHH
Yes My A Homer Hilsen has beautifully squeezed chainstays to clear fat tires, and it features very swank double-tapered seatstays. On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:27:37 PM UTC-7, mho wrote: Years ago the Ram was touted as having beautifully squeezed chainstays (to clear fatter tires and the big chainring) and custom made double-tapered seatstays (in 3 different lengths). Did these features make it over to the AHH design? What say ye, AHH owners? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tire bead won't seat/will unseat around valve area?
I've had tires with a mold-error where the bead is just flattened, and can't hook the rim properly. I got them warrantied. That doesn't mean that's what you have going on, but it is possible. You'd easily be able to see it and feel it if the bead is messed up at the area where it is bulging. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 7:55:47 PM UTC-7, Kieran J wrote: I can't remember this being an issue in my more distant memory, but recently, I've had a couple of tires form a bit of a hump around the valve stem after installing, pumping up and riding for a bit. I look closely, and the bead is slightly out of the rim, producing a faint bulge. Once it happened right away, another it happened later into a longer ride. The tire that did this most recently is the Kevler-bead folding TG Pasela. Front wheel. I was riding along, and realized the front wheel was going bump bump bump.. I'd like to think I install tires properly. Is this a common thing that everyone knows about, I've just never come across before? Are there other experiences out there similar to this? Are some tires more prone to slipping out of the rim hook than others? KJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?
RoadieRyan Was it possible you were trying to install 22.2mm grips onto 23.8mm bars? Anyway, Michael Riv cork grips are 22.2mm and Albatross bars are 22.2mm. I agree with Ryan that you should do a dryfit first, but it should be easy. Mine slid on effortlessly when dry-fitting them. Then I used a gaskety rubber material to put them on, like Andy suggested. Days later I could still kind of rotate them like motorcycle throttle. I didn't like that so I re-installed them with Gorilla Glue. That stuck them in place, and I think I waited overnight. Next time I had to get them off though, I couldn't. I had to scrape them off and put on a new set when I was ready. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:42:56 PM UTC-7, RoadieRyan wrote: Your Mileage my vary but my experience was I needed two sets of cork grips to get one set successfully mounted, and the instructions that talked about gluing them onto the bars... HA I had to *grease *the bars to get the $#)!@ things mounted. Granted once they were mounted and had a coat of shellac they did look pretty darn good . My Advice - take it slow, have a second set available, and don't use any glue until you have at least done a dry fit. More likely you will need some grease. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:34:11 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Hi Y'all, Getting ready to put cork grips on my Albas and was wondering what everyone uses and how long you have to wait after applying to ride on them. Thanks for the info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: First Riv in the wild
I saw a pretty green vintage Rivendell (probably a road standard), locked (locked!) in front of Monterrey Market in Berkeley yesterday morning. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 6:27:04 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Riv-Spotting! Awesome idea... this might be a good 'sticky'! I caught sight of a gorgeous tall iridescent blue riv, white/cream headtube and the headbage was the Rivendell 'RBW' one the gentleman riding it was headed east into DC on the WOD trail near Falls Church, VA. Looked like he was commuting and as I was out for a recreational ride the other direction we didn't get to chat. I was also riding my grey Trek so it wouldn't have been 'riv on riv' anyway. Still, very cool! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne
You can not run 650B wheels on a 700C Sam Hillborne. The reasons are threefold 1. Reach. The brake clearance on a 700C Hillborne is dialed for a long reach sidepull brake. A 650B would require ~20mm more reach than an already long reach brake. There are no good 90mm reach brake calipers. 2. Drop. Grant already dialed the frame design of the Hillborne for 700xfat tires. Among those things that are dialed is the BB drop. Run smaller diameter wheels, and your already low BB height will be in true pedal-scraping territory. Virtually all recent 700c Rivendells are lousy candidates for 650B conversion for that reason. The roadier Riv models of several years ago are good candidates because they were designed for 700xskinny and have less drop. 3. Geo. Grant designed the stability and handling for the 700c wheel. He does things differently for 650B wheels. If you were dead-set on running 650B wheels and wanted the price and sizing of a 56 Sam, you'd switch to a 55 Betty Foy and run 650B wheels. It would work great. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 7:18:11 AM UTC-7, Paul Brodek wrote: You can fit 650b wheels on any 700c bike, but some 700c bikes won't fit 650b tires. This isn't an issue for Mark's Sam, but it's worth noting for 650b conversions in general. If your frame has tight clearances with 25mm 700c tires, currently-available 650b tires will be very tight. If 23mm 700c tires are tight, you're likely SOL without frame modification. AFAIK there are no 650b tires narrower than 32mm currently available; GB Cypres and Hutchinson Confrérie des 650 are the narrowest at 32-33mm. The only very slightly narrower tire sometimes available is the discontinued Michelin Megamium, 31-32mm. I have two 650b conversions in-house with less than 2mm tire clearance at the chainstays, a '96 Waterford 1200 with Megamiums and a '76 Mooney with Confreries. Both are pretty tight with 25mm 700c tires. They have vertical drops so no chance of wheel slippage, and I'm stupid enough to ride both---on decent roads, not too far from home. The Mooney is Reynolds 531 but has great paint, so I'm not ready to have the chainstays crimped. The W'ford also has great paint, but beyond that it's built with Reynolds 753, not a great candidate for crimping. Nothing wider than the Megamiums will fit in the W'ford, so when either of those tires dies it's back to 700c. The question is most definitely what would you gain with 650b? The conversion ideal is using a 650b tire with enough volume to both improve the ride and not drastically change handling. On these two bikes I'd rather have 31-32mm 650b rubber and tight clearances than 25mm 700c rubber and tight clearances. I would love to see a true 30mm supple 650b tire to help give better road manners to crit bikes... Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting Tim Gavin : You can fit 650B wheels on any 700C bike. The question is which brakes to useThe question is, what would you gain with 650B? You can already fit 45mm tires on 700C rims on the Sam. Do you want more float than that? If you do, then go for it... Tim On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Mitch Browne mitch@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I've ridden Supreme 40's under my Atlantis Longboards daily for almost two years now. Love them. No fit issues. Mitch Browne San Luis Obispo, CA On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:46:53 PM UTC-7, Mark Taintor wrote: I have a new 56 cm Sam that's going to be built up in the next week or so, and I've got a couple questions about tires and wheels for it: 1. I'll be putting on Longboard fenders and was wondering if 40 mm Marathon Supremes would work with them. Would it be better to run the 35 mm Supremes? I know there's clearance for 40 mm tires on the Hillborne but don't know if that is with/without fenders. 2. Anybody ever put 650B wheels on a 56 Sam? Looking on the Riv website at the page for the Betty Foy, it says that the Betty and the Sam can take the same volume tires. The Betty mostly uses 650B wheels. As of now I'm planning on 700c wheels, but am intrigued with 650B. Thoughts? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this
