Re: [RBW] FS: parts clear out (wheel sets, bags, stems, brakes...)

[alan lavine]

Hi
I’ll take the Riv handlebar bag.
Alan

On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 6:40:54 AM UTC-4 ryan.o...@gmail.com wrote:

> HI Logan, I'll take the face platter stem. If I'm first in line, let me 
> know payment, etc. Might send you a fedex label for shipping if that works 
> for you?
>
> Cheers,
> Ryan
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 11:44 PM Logan Eiland  wrote:
>
>> Hi all. To make an upcoming move easier, I'm hoping to clear out all 
>> parts and accessories not currently in use. Open to offers especially if 
>> bundling multiple items. Prices do not include shipping from zip code 48103.
>>
>> Link to photos 
>> 
>>
>>1. 700c Velocity A23 singlespeed wheelset, White Industries 18t 
>>freewheel, & Ultradynamico 700x42 Cava tires. Bought all this new. 
>> Wheels, 
>>freewheel, and tires ridden under 1 mile. $450.
>>2. 650b Velocity Dyad wheelset, Deore hubs, Col de la Vie tires. In 
>>great shape. Ridden fewer than 5 miles. $275.
>>3. Set of Velo Orange wing nuts. $35.
>>4. Velo Orange 1x crankset, 40t chainring, 165mm crank arm length. 
>>$90.
>>5. Rivendell Baggins handlebar bag. $35.
>>6. One pair of blue Swift Industries panniers. Never used. Small 
>>grease marks on the front of one bag. No stains or signs of use on the 
>>inside. $120.
>>7. Acorn rando bag. $80.
>>8. Brooks saddle with brass rivets and silver rails. $75.
>>9. Gilles Berthoud Aspin saddle. $165.
>>10. Black Sim Works bar end plugs. $15.
>>11. MKS Sylvan Gordito pedals. $35.
>>12. Bruce Gordon stem. $65.
>>13. Ritchey Force stem. $30.
>>14. Nitto faceplater stem. $65.
>>15. Shimano SL-BS77 bar end shifters. Never used, still in the box. 
>>$90.
>>16. Busch-muller IQ-XS front dynamo light. $80.
>>17. Nitto NR21 rear rack. $90.
>>18. Salsa Casseroll canti mount front rack. $65.
>>19. Ocean Air Cycles x Nitto Erlen rear rack. $80.
>>20. Dia Compe long reach center pull brakes. Unused. $80.
>>21. Gran Compe center pull brakes. Unused. $110.
>>22. Shimano Deore 9s rear derailleur. $25.
>>23. Dia Compe BRS 100 short reach brakes. $30.
>>24. Shimano V-brakes. bolts missing. free with purchase of anything 
>>else.
>>25. TRP CX 8.4 V-brakes. $55.
>>26. S-Ride 11s rear derailleur. $10.
>>27. Hsin Lung stem and mustache bar (from 1993 Bridgestone XO-3). $40.
>>28. Velo Orange Randonneur handlebar. $15.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Wheels, $200

[alan lavine]

Wheels are sold, thanks.

On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 8:11:26 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:

> Any interest if I cover the shipping?
> Alan
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:36:47 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Bill is correct, also they are 700 not 650. Sorry 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:56:49 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The front should be 100mm, not 110.  The only 110mm fronts are current 
>>> BOOST hubs.  
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 5:15:46 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> These wheels, I’m 90% sure, came as original equipment on a Simple One 
>>>> I got from a list member. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Hubs are high 
>>>> flange Suzue 32 hole laced to Mavic MA3 rims. OLD 120/110. Rims measure 
>>>> 14.5 ID and 20 mm OD. In good to very good condition, as smooth as they 
>>>> can 
>>>> be and true.
>>>> Rear hub is FW/FW not threaded for fixed.
>>>> Asking $200 net to me. Prefer local pick up in NYC but will ship as 
>>>> buyers expense.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alan 
>>>> NYC, Manhattan, UWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Alan LaVine 
>>>> *Subject: **Wheels*
>>>> *Date: *February 14, 2024 at 9:19:02 PM EST
>>>> *To: *alan 
>>>>
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>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[RBW] Re: Wheels, $200

[alan lavine]

Any interest if I cover the shipping?
Alan

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:36:47 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:

> Bill is correct, also they are 700 not 650. Sorry 
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:56:49 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The front should be 100mm, not 110.  The only 110mm fronts are current 
>> BOOST hubs.  
>>
>> BL in EC
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 5:15:46 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> These wheels, I’m 90% sure, came as original equipment on a Simple One I 
>>> got from a list member. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Hubs are high 
>>> flange Suzue 32 hole laced to Mavic MA3 rims. OLD 120/110. Rims measure 
>>> 14.5 ID and 20 mm OD. In good to very good condition, as smooth as they can 
>>> be and true.
>>> Rear hub is FW/FW not threaded for fixed.
>>> Asking $200 net to me. Prefer local pick up in NYC but will ship as 
>>> buyers expense.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan 
>>> NYC, Manhattan, UWS
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> *From: *Alan LaVine 
>>> *Subject: **Wheels*
>>> *Date: *February 14, 2024 at 9:19:02 PM EST
>>> *To: *alan 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1983 Trek 720 FS, not by me, $299, NYC

[alan lavine]

Trek is sold, thanks.

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 10:13:20 AM UTC-5 allan@gmail.com wrote:

> PM sent
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 7:07:57 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Down to $250, for pick up only.
>> Alan
>>
>> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:40:47 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I hope you get some bites.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 5:13 AM alan lavine  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Patrick. I wasn't sure it would "qualify".
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 12:11:40 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Posted on iBob; seller said it's alright to post here; I figure that 
>>>>> my long-time presence on the list and the nature of the bike (long stays, 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> think!) make it acceptable and I think listers will be interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Not mine:* please contact the owner directly: alan lavine <
>>>>> ciga...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/14/24 03:53, alan lavine wrote:
>>>>> $299 anybody??
>>>>> Alan NYC
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:47:17 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>> Reduced to $325.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 5:38:26 PM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> Up for sale is this classic touring frame, thought to be one of the 
>>>>> best ever. The frame itself is fine, but the paint sucks from previous 
>>>>> touch up attempts. It rides fine as is, though aesthetically poor.
>>>>> The headset is stronglight but may need repacking. ST 60 cm, TT 57 cm, 
>>>>> both c-c. 
>>>>> I’m sure the members of this group know what this is but here is the 
>>>>> CL anyway: 
>>>>> newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-fs-vintage-touring-trek-720/7715824985.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Prefer local for now, but we’ll see how it goes.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Alan NYC
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1983 Trek 720 FS, not by me, $299, NYC

[alan lavine]

Down to $250, for pick up only.
Alan

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:40:47 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I hope you get some bites.
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 5:13 AM alan lavine  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Patrick. I wasn't sure it would "qualify".
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 12:11:40 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Posted on iBob; seller said it's alright to post here; I figure that my 
>>> long-time presence on the list and the nature of the bike (long stays, I 
>>> think!) make it acceptable and I think listers will be interested.
>>>
>>> *Not mine:* please contact the owner directly: alan lavine <
>>> ciga...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> On 2/14/24 03:53, alan lavine wrote:
>>> $299 anybody??
>>> Alan NYC
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:47:17 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
>>> Reduced to $325.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 5:38:26 PM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> Up for sale is this classic touring frame, thought to be one of the best 
>>> ever. The frame itself is fine, but the paint sucks from previous touch up 
>>> attempts. It rides fine as is, though aesthetically poor.
>>> The headset is stronglight but may need repacking. ST 60 cm, TT 57 cm, 
>>> both c-c. 
>>> I’m sure the members of this group know what this is but here is the CL 
>>> anyway: 
>>> newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-fs-vintage-touring-trek-720/7715824985.html
>>>
>>> Prefer local for now, but we’ll see how it goes.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan NYC
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 1983 Trek 720 FS, not by me, $299, NYC

[alan lavine]

Thanks, Patrick. I wasn't sure it would "qualify".

On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 12:11:40 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Posted on iBob; seller said it's alright to post here; I figure that my 
> long-time presence on the list and the nature of the bike (long stays, I 
> think!) make it acceptable and I think listers will be interested.
>
> *Not mine:* please contact the owner directly: alan lavine <
> ciga...@gmail.com>
>
> On 2/14/24 03:53, alan lavine wrote:
> $299 anybody??
> Alan NYC
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:47:17 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
> Reduced to $325.
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 5:38:26 PM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
> Hi All,
> Up for sale is this classic touring frame, thought to be one of the best 
> ever. The frame itself is fine, but the paint sucks from previous touch up 
> attempts. It rides fine as is, though aesthetically poor.
> The headset is stronglight but may need repacking. ST 60 cm, TT 57 cm, 
> both c-c. 
> I’m sure the members of this group know what this is but here is the CL 
> anyway: 
> newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-fs-vintage-touring-trek-720/7715824985.html
>
> Prefer local for now, but we’ll see how it goes.
> Thanks,
> Alan NYC
>

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[RBW] Re: Wheels, $200

[alan lavine]

Bill is correct, also they are 700 not 650. Sorry 

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:56:49 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The front should be 100mm, not 110.  The only 110mm fronts are current 
> BOOST hubs.  
>
> BL in EC
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 5:15:46 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> These wheels, I’m 90% sure, came as original equipment on a Simple One I 
>> got from a list member. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Hubs are high 
>> flange Suzue 32 hole laced to Mavic MA3 rims. OLD 120/110. Rims measure 
>> 14.5 ID and 20 mm OD. In good to very good condition, as smooth as they can 
>> be and true.
>> Rear hub is FW/FW not threaded for fixed.
>> Asking $200 net to me. Prefer local pick up in NYC but will ship as 
>> buyers expense.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan 
>> NYC, Manhattan, UWS
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *Alan LaVine 
>> *Subject: **Wheels*
>> *Date: *February 14, 2024 at 9:19:02 PM EST
>> *To: *alan 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Dialing in a Brooks Saddle

[alan lavine]

Hi Jay,
Your story sounds familiar. Twenty years ago, I was a dedicated Brooks 
man...loved the leather idea, the color, the aging, etc. And mine too, were 
comfortable right out of the box. N.B.  I have always been a fan of padded 
bibs and chamois cream.

Then the birthdays started to accumulate and my handlebars mysteriously 
levitated higher and closer, this changed things. And my dermatologist 
reminded me that as we age, the skin thins and we lose subcutaneous 
fat...and I'm a skinny butt guy to begin with. Ultimately, after an 
infinite numbers of adjustments, I had to give up two beautifully aged and 
broken in honey tan saddles.

As an aside, as I have lost some flexibility with age, and gained some 
degenerative spinal changes, what helped me was having a lower than 
predicted saddle height and a smaller saddle offset w/r to the BB. This may 
or may not help you.

Not to be pessimistic, but age changes everything. But you should 
definitely give a shot, trying all posible positions and angles. Best of 
luck ! 
Alan in NYC, adjusting to aging as. best I can.

On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 10:27:00 PM UTC-5 Jay wrote:

> Next week I'll be throwing a leg over a Roadini for the first time (I 
> posted a couple weeks ago about the frame I ordered) and I thought I was 
> set on my saddle, but decided yesterday I need to try something very 
> different.  
>
> A little bit of background before I get to my question...
>
> When I started cycling around 20 years ago I had Brooks B17 on my road 
> bike (custom geometry, not too aggressive) and a Masi commuter bike.  It 
> was a while ago so I can't recall what I liked about them, and why I 
> eventually stopped using them, but I do recall one memory...I always used 
> padded bib shorts (still do) and one day in the winter I went for a 2hr 
> ride and only realized when I got home that I just had on my underwear and 
> tights.  In at least that way for me at that time, the saddle was that 
> comfortable.
>
> Since that time I've used a lot of plastic saddles from Fizik, Selle 
> Italia and the latest is a Prologo (147mm wide, with a bit of padding).  I 
> used this saddle on two bikes the last 4 months and it was a noticeable 
> improvement over the Selle Italia saddles I was using previously.  I 
> thought this is what I would use on the Roadini (and still may, in the long 
> run).  But when I use it on my Salsa Fargo (bar level with saddle) and ride 
> for 2+ hours, I get friction and general discomfort.  And can I ride 
> without padded bib shorts?  Heck no, I can't even go around my block 
> without bibs when using this saddle.
>
> To get to my point, I ordered a B17 in Honey to try out on my Roadini. 
>  I'm getting it tomorrow and I'm going to try it on my Fargo (nice weather 
> for next little while).  I know that overall I need to be patient, only 
> change one thing at a time, and only small adjustments.
>
> My thinking, where I wanted to get your input, is that I would be set up 
> the bike so saddle and bars are level, and will likely start with the 
> saddle level (from what I recall this will have the rear of the saddle 
> where my sit bones are located, pointed down a bit, but that's how my 
> Prologo is today and I can ride in the drops and take my hands off and I'm 
> balanced...so I think I'll start there and see how it goes).
>
> Any other words of wisdom that I can consider?  Thanks in advance.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: IRD Cafam - S Brake Levers - Silver

[alan lavine]

If they are the silver ones, I'll take them.
alan nyc

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:15:24 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I just realized I never sold these. These are 100% brand new and never 
> mounted. The S version so they are short pull. Will work with cantilever, 
> mini-v, and road brakes. Very light and very nice. *$75 shipped*
>
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/ird-brake-lever-set-cafam-s-short-pull-solid-color-6892
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[RBW] Re: Comfy aluminum frames?

[alan lavine]

Appreciate your thoughts, everyone.

On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:48:17 AM UTC-4 Will M wrote:

> Alan, Jan Heine's 2021 book, *All Road Bicycle Revolution*, has some good 
> reading on this topic ("characteristics of a great frame can be obtained 
> from all materials"; p. 174) that aligns with Sheldon Brown's writing 
> from 20 years ago  ("the 
> reality is that you can make a good bike frame out of any of these metals, 
> with any desired riding qualities, by selecting appropriate tubing 
> diameters, wall thicknesses and frame geometry").  They both argue that the 
> "feel" of a frame is influenced more by frame design than by the material 
> itself. 
>
> This doesn't answer your question.  :-)
>
> I'm not sure I have an answer.  All I know is that my aluminum Yuba Sweet 
> Curry cargo bike is the stiffest thing on the planet (to give 300-lb cargo 
> capacity; look at all the aluminum trusses 
> 
> !).  
>
> And that I agree with Matthias: my "forever bike" is also a C'dale 
> adventure touring bike (this T1000 
> ; the aluminum CAAD2 
> touring frame) that turns 25 in December.  I had posted previously 
> 
>  
> about how I am slowly turning it into an Atlantis, having drunk too much 
> Kool-Aid in Walnut Creek.  But I must say that the T1000 rides better than 
> any RBW bike that I've owned.  Blasphemy, but there it is.  Something about 
> its chromoly fork's geometry gives it magical handling.  If only it had the 
> Atlantis's clearances.  I am waiting for the aluminum to fail so I can get 
> in line for the next Atlantis batch. :-)
>
> Will M
> NYC
>
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 5:32:56 PM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> As I said in another thread (
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/tAas6urcOwg/m/KW63fr0LCQAJ), 
>> modern aluminium frames can be quite comfortable. Last week I did back to 
>> back rides on successive days over the same chipseal roads on that Al bike 
>> and on my Riv custom. I can't say that the Riv felt any more comfortable or 
>> better handling. The Al frame was running Conti GP Urbans and the Riv Rene 
>> Herse Bon Jon Pass, both nominally 35mm tyres.
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] My first Rivendell/My first post

[alan lavine]

Thanks for the info. I'll try it next build.

On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:42:40 PM UTC-4 brainsa...@gmail.com wrote:

> The current set up I have on my Ram is 11-36 in the back with a 52-42 up 
> front. I wasn't going to do the 36, but I had it and wanted to see how the 
> derailleur would handle it. It works great, but I'll probably change it 
> because I can't see a situation where I'll need to go that low. 
>
> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 1:57:43 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That's certainly my theory, but I haven't tried it with a cog that large 
>> yet. I currently have a 14-28 6-speed Suntour mounted on the temporary 
>> Phil+Araya rear that's there now, until I reconstruct the Phil+Mavic MA-2 
>> rear that I noticed as dented when I was building up the Trek. That hub 
>> will get an axle-end swap; Phil Wood apparently used longer axle ends for 
>> 7-speed 126 OLD hubs than for 6-speed. I'd attempted to install one of my 
>> expanding collection of Sachs-Maillard 7-speed mountain FWs (large cogs 
>> ranging from 28 through 34T), but the axle end didn't push the dropout of 
>> the Raleigh out far enough to clear the smallest cog.
>>
>> For comparison purposes, the Huret/Sachs-Huret Duopars (both the Ti 
>> original. and the all-steel Eco) are rated for 36T. But I suspect that with 
>> a 26-28T granny in a 5-pin chainset, a 34T cog will be sufficiently capable 
>> of pulling stumps.
>>
>> Michael Sweatman at disraeligears.co.uk 
>> <https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site/suntour_xc_derailleur_3_pulley_system.html>
>>  
>> theorizes that the Suntour 3-pulley systems can handle 38T cogs. Does 
>> anyone actually make a freewheel that low? I suppose someone could 
>> experiment with it in an indexed 1x system, for science.
>>
>> Peter Adler
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>
>> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:30:09 AM UTC-7 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>> So it would be g ood for a large cog, like 34T, instead of a long cage 
>> deralailer ?
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] My first Rivendell/My first post

[alan lavine]

So it would be g ood for a large cog, like 34T, instead of a long cage 
deralailer ?
Alan
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:21:45 AM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's to get the chain takeup of a long-cage derailleur, without the long 
> cage. A shorter cage is less likely to get bent, or to get banged against 
> rocks, roots and other debris.
>
> Suntour did a full model range of 3-pulley rears as a special arrangement 
> for Nishiki (early 80s?). My LBS (the late lamented Missing Link of 
> Berkeley CA) had a display in the window of their repair shop with about 
> six different models of 3-pulley derailleurs mounted on it: LePree, Honor, 
> Cyclone, XC, Mountech etc. I had a 3-pulley Mountech sitting in my parts 
> box for about a decade, waiting for a project. When I suddenly had to build 
> up a Trek 720 to replace the Raleigh International pack mule I wrecked just 
> before Christmas 2021, I was about to transfer the Huret Duopar Eco over 
> from the Raleigh when I remembered the 3-pulley, and decided to try it for 
> awhile. I've been riding it for about 18 months, and it's been perfectly 
> fine. And I've never pretzeled the pulley cage by accidentally bumping a 
> barcon and getting the derailleur in the wrong gear, which is more than I 
> can say for the Duopar Ecos; I've twisted two Huret cages that way, which 
> is why I've collected four or five of them.
>
> In operation, the "third" pulley at the lower front of the Suntour is a 
> secondary tension pulley; it only pulls into contact with the chain when 
> the chain is especially slack. When the chain is running loose, the second 
> pulley (primary tension pulley) at the lower rear swings backwards, 
> bringing the third pulley into contact with the chain and supporting the 
> run to the chainring better. When the chain's tension increases, the cage 
> rotates forward, disengaging the third pulley from the chain.
>
> Peter Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 5:48:25 PM UTC-7 alan lavine wrote:
>
> I have one of those 3 pulley derailers also but haven't used it. What's 
> the purpose?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] My first Rivendell/My first post

[alan lavine]

I have one of those 3 pulley derailers also but haven't used it. What's the 
purpose?
Alan
NYC

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 4:53:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Anthony, welcome, and kudos on the nice Ram. I owned a second-generation 
> blue Ram and it was a very nice bike; I sold it because I already had a 
> couple of Riv road customs and it was surplus to requirements, but it was a 
> delightfully comfortable and pleasantly handling bike, particularly when, 
> after I discovered modern sealants, I was able to swap the 35 mm Kojaks 
> (not bad, not bad) for blissfully smooth and fast first-ed Paris Roubaix 
> "open tubulars."
>
> Curious, so question for all: I am familiar with the original orange Rams 
> and the second-gen blue ones; when did Rivendell make green ones? When I 
> first saw your photo I immediately thought, "Quickbeam," tho' of course 
> your bike does not have the signature QB decals.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 11:55 AM Anthony Beauchemin  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All! My name is Anthony and I've been a member of this group for a 
>> couple years now, but have never actually posted.
>> I just got my first Rivendell and that seemed like a good first post! 
>> It's a green Rambouillet and I'm stoked. The first time I ever saw a Riv 
>> was in 2007/8 when I bought a saddle off Craigslist and the seller rolled 
>> up on an orange Ram. It feels fitting that my first, and maybe only...who 
>> knows, Rivendell would be a Rambouillet. While I built it with stuff I had 
>> laying around, I took this opportunity to get a Suntour 3 pulley 
>> derailleur. Like the Riv, I always wanted one and now I have it! [image: 
>> IMG-5532.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Comfy aluminum frames?

[alan lavine]

Interesting. I had a T1000 touring bike years ago, and even then I found it 
too rigid. As I age this issue takes front and center, I'm like the 
princess and the pea. I agree that the first step is always fat, supple 
tires. For me, that eliminates any frame that can't take anything bigger 
than 28's.
As always, YMMV.

On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 11:08:18 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> What Mathias says is right about older Cannondales with cro-mo forks. I 
> also had a T600 Cannondale that I bought in 1988 for about $650-700 - red 
> 18-speed with half-step gearing with a Biopace(remember those?) Deore 
> crank...bike was a mix of 600 and Deore. It was a fine touring bike that 
> also rode well unloaded; quick enough and actually a lot more fun and chill 
> than the Rossin with Campy SR that was my go-fast...which I hardly rode 
> after I got that Cannondale. The Rossin I sold on without a tinge of 
> regret. Loaded touring, centuries , fast club rides...it was a great 
> bike...until I fell in love with a 93 X0-1...which over 50 miles in my 
> fitter youth, I didn't like as much as the Cannondale, if I'm honest. 
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 9:38:38 PM UTC-5 mathiass...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> I have a habit of taking in a stray bike every year, usually in the fall, 
>> and then make it my baby for the following season. Living in Michigan, 
>> that's a sound approach with plenty of time for the rehabilitation. My 
>> tastes run to the old and cheap, but maybe I can offer some perspective for 
>> your question.
>>
>> In 2021, that bike was a 1997 Cannondale R200 Criterium bike. Look up 
>> "harsh aluminum" on wikipedia, and there'll be a picture of it. Quick 
>> handling, maximum tire size 28 mm [GP5000, 26 mm actual] and there was a 
>> 16th of an inch gap at the seat tube. I liked riding it, and with a 
>> Technomic stem I found it comfortable, but if you rode over a coin in the 
>> road, you could tell whether it was heads or tails. Last year's bike was, a 
>> 1987 Cannondale ST600 that I got as a frame set from a friend on 
>> bikeforums. Fantastic riding sport touring bike, no vices, quick-enough 
>> handling but not nervous, and with 32 mm GP5000s, 30 mm actual, a fine 
>> ride. It has a classic steel fork with a proper crown, I'm guessing that 
>> helps. It's not harsh at all, and dirt-road capable so long as there's no 
>> deep sand or gravel. This year I'm riding a 1981 Motobécane Grand Touring, 
>> light-weight Vitus tubing, 27x1-1/4 Paselas, also 30 mm actual width, and 
>> it rides just like the ST, only it looks better doing it. The ST is at best 
>> 1 mph faster on my timed rides, but those Contis are low-rolling-resistance 
>> tires. I don't believe I'm wasting energy anywhere else on my bicycles.
>>
>> Finally, my Forever Bike is a '95 Cannondale T400 -- so I'm partial to 
>> 'dales, what of it?  -- that I bought new. It's shod with 700x35c Paselas 
>> measuring 36 mm and I run them in the 40s. That bike is not harsh at all 
>> the way it is set up, and it's my go-to ride for mixed roads. When the 
>> things being pushed around by a frame are the rubber tires below and my 
>> ample hind quarters above, there is no difference in "give" between a 
>> triangle made from steel vs. aluminum tubes. I will say that any kind of 
>> rattle, like from the pannier hooks on the racki, sounds nasty on a 
>> big-tube aluminum frame. Maybe that's where the myth of the "harsh riding" 
>> aluminum frames comes from.
>>
>> "Comfy aluminum" really does exist. Look for a frame with a geometry that 
>> suits your riding and with room for the kind of tire you like. Problem 
>> solved. Aluminum will never look as korrekt as steel does, but that wasn't 
>> what you had asked. Please let us know what you find in your travels... my 
>> foray into different bikes has mostly taught me what I'd read before.. it's 
>> hard to build a bad bicycle. 
>>
>> cheers -mathias
>>
>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 5:02:56 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Haven’t ridden aluminum in many years, it always beat me up. But 
>>> technology improves and maybe there’s something new I don’t know about. So 
>>> is “comfy aluminum “ an oxymoron or can it really exist? Interested in your 
>>> thoughts and experiences,
>>> Alan nyc
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Comfy aluminum frames?

[alan lavine]

Haven’t ridden aluminum in many years, it always beat me up. But technology 
improves and maybe there’s something new I don’t know about. So is “comfy 
aluminum “ an oxymoron or can it really exist? Interested in your thoughts 
and experiences,
Alan nyc

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[RBW] WTB: Sackville Saddlesack med or equivalent

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
I'm looking for a bag for my city schlepper  (precise cycling technical 
term) that's big but not huge. Thinking of above or Carradice Longflap, 
etc. Wacha got sitting around getting dusty? Beausage OK.

Thanks,
Alan

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[RBW] Re: Sackville Handlebar bag with Nitto support

[alan lavine]

Thanks to all who responded with useful information. The bag is now sold.
Alan

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 9:21:13 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> This bag came our around 2010 as the Sackville BarSack. It sold new for 
> $135. The Nitto F-15 rack was sold separately for $70. 
>
> These janky screengrabs are the best I can get through the Wayback Machine 
> at Archive.org. 
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20100615073109/http://www.rivbike.com:80/products/show/sackville-barsack/20-208
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-05-08 at 9.18.03 AM.png]
> [image: Screenshot 2023-05-08 at 9.20.51 AM.png]
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-05-08 at 9.17.28 AM.png]
>
> On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 10:37:27 PM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> I think these came with a nitto F15 rack.  Try searching for that, as 
>> several have sold here.  
>>
>> On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 6:39:06 PM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> I've decided to sell this barely used bag, which I've had for a number 
>>> of years without finding it an appropriate home. But I can't find out what 
>>> I paid for it, the original Riv price or even one for sale on the internet, 
>>> so not sure how to price it. Does anyone remember what they sold for? Thanks
>>> Alan NYC
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: wtb: 58cm quickbeam

[alan lavine]

The Simpleone is sold, thanks for all your interest.
Alan

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 3:15:30 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> yes, its sold or pending sell currently.  Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:04:31 PM UTC-6 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Jason, did you see this SimpleOne? 
>> https://groups.google.com/u/5/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/x1K4Hw3zUj4
>> Max
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:52:23 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> please DM me if youre holding and open to sell Ideally frame/fork or 
>>> f/f+headset/bb
>>> thank you 
>>>
>>> Jason in Nebraska
>>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Simple One 58 cm, F,F,HS,BB. Dark Green

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
I bought this from a list member but somehow it never gelled for me, in 
addition it was somewhat redundant with other bikes and I need room for 
incoming.

Serial # M1011158. I will send fotos once I've cleaned it up a bit but it 
has the usual nicks and scratches from use but no dings or dents. HS and BB 
(108 mm) are in good shape. It's dark green and cream accents.

About pricing: not too many sales of these , so hard to find the market 
value. I guess people are keeping them.How about $850? If this is not 
right, please let me know.

Also, local sale/pickup preferred VERY strongly, a lot on my plate right 
now. I'll give a $50 discount and throw in handlebars from my vast 
collection, haha! Tell me what you like/need. Located on the UWS Manhattan.

Best,
Alan

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[alan lavine]

Good to know, thanks!

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
> bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
> of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
> the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
> move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
>> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
>> thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an 
>> open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
>> Thanks,
>> Alan in NYC
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
>>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
>>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
>>> and shapes of riders. 
>>>
>>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for 
>>> my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need 
>>> for a custom for 20 years. 
>>>
>>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
>>> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
>>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
>>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
>>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
>>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>>> choices.
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>>>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs  
>>>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
>>>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
>>>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>>>> appropriate wear. 
>>>>
>>>> The Rundown: 
>>>>
>>>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
>>>>Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
>>>>also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
>>>>extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
>>>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
>>>>include.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, 
>>>> but I can ship to a loving home.
>>>>
>>>> Photos: 
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>>>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The 
>>>> ride is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was 
>>>> able 
>>>> to make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> Ben Adrian
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[alan lavine]

Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars thru 
a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an open 
face stem due to the abrupt curves.
Thanks,
Alan in NYC

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
> and shapes of riders. 
>
> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for my 
> height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need for a 
> custom for 20 years. 
>
> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
> choices.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs  
>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>> appropriate wear. 
>>
>> The Rundown: 
>>
>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto Noodle 
>>bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I also 
>>have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
>>extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will include.
>>
>>
>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, but 
>> I can ship to a loving home.
>>
>> Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>
>>  
>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The ride 
>> is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was able to 
>> make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben Adrian
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: New 57cm Roadini Frameset (Orange) + headset, 559 brakes, Nitto seatpost

[alan lavine]

Andrew,
PM sent.
Thanks,
Alan

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:

> I bought the frameset new from Riv a month ago but after 50 miles of 
> riding I simply do not enjoy the way it rides compared to my other road 
> bike so I'm casting this one back out. It's got the FSA headset installed 
> with some pewter headset spacers from BlueLug, new Tektro 559 brake 
> callipers and a new Nitto S65 300mm seatpost. There's a few paint nicks I 
> gave it because I'm a sloppy mechanic and installing fenders was a 
> wrestling match, but nothing serious or all that visible.  
>
> I'm pretty bummed it didn't work out for me but I hope it finds a new 
> home! 
>
> Asking $1375 which will include shipping, DM if you want pics 
>
> Cheers, 
> Andrew
>

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[RBW] WTT: handlebars

[alan lavine]

Excuse the cross post. Feeling the need to change things...again.

What I got:
-lightly used nitto albastache with lots of gummy residue to help with your 
next taping
-Soma Sparrow, black, 49.5 with a few scratches
-a whole bunch of quality drop bars, tell me what you're looking for

Want I want:
-VO Porteur 22.2
-VO Granola
-albatross/ soma Oxford 
-VO left bank 22.2

Prefer local, if possible.
Thanks,
Alan NYC

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[alan lavine]

Bike has been sold locally. Thank you all for your interest!
Alan

On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 8:40:26 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Someone responded with an offer to trade a non Riv bike, and I think its a 
> good idea to be open to that. So the criteria would be:
> -steel or CF, no aluminum
> -ST 59-61, TT 57-59 (approx). I'm 5'11" with PBH 90.
> -ability to raise the HB slightly higher than the seat.
> Let me know what's been languishing in your garage because it wasn't just 
> right.
>
> Also, regarding a saleI mentioned I wasn't quite sure how to price the 
> Cheviot as not many are changing hands (a good sign?). If you think I'm 
> off, feel free to make a reasonable but not low ball offer.
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:13:59 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> OOPs...I don't do this very often.
>>  I'm on the west side of Manhattan, NYC.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:18:11 PM UTC-4 Dave S wrote:
>>
>>> Where is local?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
>>>> sheet and price.
>>>> Local pick up a big bonus!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more 
>>>>> specific info contact me please. 
>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>> Alan 
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[alan lavine]

Someone responded with an offer to trade a non Riv bike, and I think its a 
good idea to be open to that. So the criteria would be:
-steel or CF, no aluminum
-ST 59-61, TT 57-59 (approx). I'm 5'11" with PBH 90.
-ability to raise the HB slightly higher than the seat.
Let me know what's been languishing in your garage because it wasn't just 
right.

Also, regarding a saleI mentioned I wasn't quite sure how to price the 
Cheviot as not many are changing hands (a good sign?). If you think I'm 
off, feel free to make a reasonable but not low ball offer.

Thanks,
Alan

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:13:59 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> OOPs...I don't do this very often.
>  I'm on the west side of Manhattan, NYC.
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:18:11 PM UTC-4 Dave S wrote:
>
>> Where is local?
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
>>> sheet and price.
>>> Local pick up a big bonus!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more 
>>>> specific info contact me please. 
>>>> Thanks 
>>>> Alan 
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[alan lavine]

OOPs...I don't do this very often.
 I'm on the west side of Manhattan, NYC.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:18:11 PM UTC-4 Dave S wrote:

> Where is local?
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
>> sheet and price.
>> Local pick up a big bonus!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more specific 
>>> info contact me please. 
>>> Thanks 
>>> Alan 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[alan lavine]

So sorry...this is a 60 cm. Knew I forgot something!

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 9:24:34 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Sorry to say that no trades are in sight and several have expressed 
> interest in a sale.I tried to research a reasonable price but data are hard 
> to come by since very few of these end up on the market. I'm gonna ask 
> $2150 net to me. Buyer pays shipping, even if it requires 2 boxes because 
> of size. I'll do the tedious packing for free. Local pick up earns a $100 
> discount. The Brooks saddle stays with me, it's attached to my butt.
> Here are the details, LMK if I've forgotten something.
>
> Soma Oxford handlebars, albatross equivalent 
> Nitto Technomic stem
> Vintage no name mt. bike brake levers
> Suntour bar con shifters, black lever covers labeled Raleigh
> Sackville HB bag
> Tektro 559 brakes with kool-stop inserts
> Shimano Deore hubs laced to Mavic 519 rims
> Soma Supple Vitesse SL 700 x 48 tires with minimal use
> Love Mud flat pedals
> VO double crank 46/30
> uno seatpost
> Claris front der. Acera rear der.
> 7 speed Shimano HG cassette 34 T max.
> Greenfield kickstand
> KMC chain
> Carradice Barley bag with Bagman support 
> Last, but by no means least, Sackville hub shiners!!
>
> Not the way I thought it would go, but let's go with it. Hope this all 
> sounds reasonable to you.
> Best,
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
>> sheet and price.
>> Local pick up a big bonus!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more specific 
>>> info contact me please. 
>>> Thanks 
>>> Alan 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[alan lavine]

Sorry to say that no trades are in sight and several have expressed 
interest in a sale.I tried to research a reasonable price but data are hard 
to come by since very few of these end up on the market. I'm gonna ask 
$2150 net to me. Buyer pays shipping, even if it requires 2 boxes because 
of size. I'll do the tedious packing for free. Local pick up earns a $100 
discount. The Brooks saddle stays with me, it's attached to my butt.
Here are the details, LMK if I've forgotten something.

Soma Oxford handlebars, albatross equivalent 
Nitto Technomic stem
Vintage no name mt. bike brake levers
Suntour bar con shifters, black lever covers labeled Raleigh
Sackville HB bag
Tektro 559 brakes with kool-stop inserts
Shimano Deore hubs laced to Mavic 519 rims
Soma Supple Vitesse SL 700 x 48 tires with minimal use
Love Mud flat pedals
VO double crank 46/30
uno seatpost
Claris front der. Acera rear der.
7 speed Shimano HG cassette 34 T max.
Greenfield kickstand
KMC chain
Carradice Barley bag with Bagman support 
Last, but by no means least, Sackville hub shiners!!

Not the way I thought it would go, but let's go with it. Hope this all 
sounds reasonable to you.
Best,
Alan

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
> sheet and price.
> Local pick up a big bonus!
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more specific 
>> info contact me please.
>> Thanks 
>> Alan
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[alan lavine]

No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
sheet and price.
Local pick up a big bonus!

Thanks,
Alan

On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more specific 
> info contact me please.
> Thanks 
> Alan
>
>

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[RBW] Interested in a trade?

[alan lavine]

Hello All,
So I have a recently acquired Cheviot 60 cm and I'm finding it hard to 
"bond". It's a big bike and a little bulky to move around and maybe a bit 
big for me. The mixte frame, while novel, is not for me. Would like to get 
back to drop bars, maybe.

Maybe someone has a diamond frame Riv they'd be interested in a swap? 
Complete bike, frame, or any combination thereof?
My preferred bike has ST 60-61 and TT 57-59, all c-c. I'm 5'11 (formally 
6') with PBH 90. 
Hit me up with ideas, I'm open. Outright sale is also possible.

Thanks,
Alan

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Alan LaVine]

Hate to miss this…have fun 朗 

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> On Jun 19, 2022, at 12:07 AM, Todd Ferguson  wrote:
> 
> Aaah sorry not to see this. I was tooling around the park from 11-Noon!  Kai 
> I saw you on your Hubbuhubbuh on Friday at Vanderbilt and Fulton at about 
> 6pm. Gave a wave! I was on a RB-1 so a little bit in stealth mode. Brazing 
> party sounds great!
> 
>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:49:44 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>> Late notice but a few folks are meeting at Grand Army Plaza at 1p today to 
>> pedal around the park and then get tacos and beer. Meet behind the farmers 
>> market near the entrance to the park. HMU - 347-325-2640. 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:06 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>>  wrote:
>>> No tandemming with Justin for Father's day = Bummer
>>> Probably better as I'm an iffy captain at best... (Tandem is on the sale 
>>> block anyhows (know anybody?))
>>> And Hello Todd of Ditmas!
>>> I still hope there can be a big ride, but Father's day has put a damper on 
>>> my ability to step away from the fam for a few hours on Sunday. Father's 
>>> day, and a huge slice through the tread and sidewall of my new 33's on the 
>>> Ram, and the Rosco in pieces on the floor, and and and...  excuses I know.
>>> I still want to have that brazing party in my yard, the one where we add 
>>> weird bits to odd spots on your bikes while drinking beers and 
>>> trampolining. 
>>> Let's party!
>>> -Kai
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 10:57:50 PM UTC-4 Todd Ferguson wrote:
>>>> Hi folks-
>>>> 
>>>> I'm Todd from Ditmas Park. I commute daily to midtown along Kent on my 
>>>> Atlantis but would love to cruise around with like minded folks on some 
>>>> weekend mornings. I did have the pleasure of bumping into Kai once on his 
>>>> Mountain Mixte and riding down first avenue with him. Would love to meet 
>>>> the rest of you!
>>>> 
>>>> -Todd
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 8:54:25 PM UTC-4 Brendan McLaughlin wrote:
>>>>> Hello Minh and the rest of the gang!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm in South Slope with a Clem H and would love to meet up for a ride 
>>>>> some time! I'm out of town 6/18 and 6/19 but would love to do a ride on 
>>>>> another weekend this Summer. Thanks for getting this going!
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:57:55 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>>> oof Justin, good catch.  Saturday is out for me too, but i could do 
>>>>>> Sunday and prefer on the early-ish side, hopefull that leaves things 
>>>>>> open enough for other activities later in the day.  I'll leave that 
>>>>>> option up for further discussion over the next week or so and we can try 
>>>>>> and lock it in next week? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 1:19:06 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>> Just realized that Sunday is Father's Day, so probably no go for me 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 12:48 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> With kids in the mix, I always consider planning grownup activities a 
>>>>>>>> long shot, so I'm not to be planned around...
>>>>>>>> But that Saturday has become a no go (skate date with my younger, 
>>>>>>>> music performance for my older). Sunday is tentatively wide open 
>>>>>>>> though!
>>>>>>>> aside from ride planning, if anyone wants some braze-ons cooked to 
>>>>>>>> their frames, I'm looking for some practice (I've even got braze-ons!)
>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 10:47:33 AM UTC-4 jeffrey kane wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Same as Patch - but yeah, would love to join so will circle back if I 
>>>>>>>>> can make it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:00:07 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I might be out of town. If I'm not out of town, I'd love to join!
>>>

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Alan LaVine]

I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did that ride!
Alan

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> On Jun 2, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Minh  wrote:
> 
> hey all bringing this to the top.  i have a free weekend 18th-19th, so 
> proposing a ride down to Far Rockaway, anyone else around want to join?  Ride 
> down, stop at Fort for pictures, get some tacos or other beach food.   could 
> do Sat or Sunday, or even Monday if you have the day off!
> 
> 
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>> wrote:
>> LIC would work for me. $100 per month per person? I'd prob be willing to go 
>> higher depending on the space, how many other people join, etc. 
>> 
>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:54:16 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>> I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project, mentioned above, 
>>> there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought about.
>>> This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have something 
>>> specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how much they would 
>>> be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in limiting the 
>>> options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no obligations at all.
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base feel that 
>>>> would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
>>>> -Kai
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love that 
>>>>> name): Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from various eras.
>>>>> To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental space to 
>>>>> set up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun with stuff. 
>>>>> Could be in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access via bike. 
>>>>> I'm envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with vise (Yeh), 
>>>>> shared tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used couch for a 
>>>>> nap, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> UWS
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>>>  (sorry if this is a double send).  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hey all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent number! 
>>>>>>   as far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this, where people can 
>>>>>> add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can also use it as a 
>>>>>> shared calendar for activities.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Stephen
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>>>> Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not numb, 
>>>>>>>> maybe with drop bars...
>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Good Morning All,
>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at least. I 
>>>>>>>>> suggest meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st, Greenpoint, 
>>>>>>>>> around 5-6 pm. Not sure where a good ride would be in late afternoon 
>>>>>>>>> NYC traffic, but we can discuss ideas for future rides depending on 
>>>>>>>>> when folks are available. I'm thinking tomorrow as meet and greet 
>>>>>>>>> thing...the beer and sausage selection is excellent. 
>>>>>>>>> I also think it would be fun to bring a list, written or mental, of 
>>>>>>>>> parts/bikes wanting to sell/exchange/give away/etc. We all have stuff 
>

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project, mentioned above, 
there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought about.
This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have something 
specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how much they would 
be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in limiting the 
options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no obligations at all.
Alan

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base feel that 
> would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
> -Kai
>
>
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love that 
>> name): Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from various eras.
>> To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental space to 
>> set up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun with stuff. 
>> Could be in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access via bike. 
>> I'm envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with vise (Yeh), 
>> shared tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used couch for a 
>> nap, etc.
>>
>> Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?
>>
>> Alan
>> UWS
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>
>>>  (sorry if this is a double send).  
>>>
>>> hey all,
>>>
>>> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent 
>>> number!   as far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this 
>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AA-OoyAF6t9ais0HhXzQR8hmOIOKIyUl-pIlOM9bC54/edit#gid=634347005>,
>>>  
>>> where people can add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can also 
>>> use it as a shared calendar for activities.
>>>
>>> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form 
>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkHWX27Bqkr2M344BLFUHyptbjKCO81teVqZOeM_-VRhtXZQ/viewform>
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
>>>>
>>>> -Stephen
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not numb, 
>>>>> maybe with drop bars...
>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good Morning All,
>>>>>> I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at least. I 
>>>>>> suggest meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st, Greenpoint, around 
>>>>>> 5-6 
>>>>>> pm. Not sure where a good ride would be in late afternoon NYC traffic, 
>>>>>> but 
>>>>>> we can discuss ideas for future rides depending on when folks are 
>>>>>> available. I'm thinking tomorrow as meet and greet thing...the beer and 
>>>>>> sausage selection is excellent. 
>>>>>> I also think it would be fun to bring a list, written or mental, of 
>>>>>> parts/bikes wanting to sell/exchange/give away/etc. We all have stuff 
>>>>>> lying 
>>>>>> around waiting for a better life. For me, its drop bars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's see a show of hands!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan UWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:55:55 AM UTC-4 jakob.b...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Brooklyn Riv riders. I just moved here from San Francisco 3 weeks 
>>>>>>> ago, game for some rides! Looks like one is in the works next 
>>>>>>> Wednesday, 
>>>>>>> 27th? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 
>>>>>>>> years ago, I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact 
>>>>>>>> I’ve 
>>>>>>

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

I am not familiar with it but will subscribe.

> On Apr 28, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>  wrote:
> 
> hey all, sorry I missed it. i had an ankle injury late last week and still 
> kind of recovering. i should be back to normal by next week.
> 
> love the idea of a shared workshop space! does anyone else subscribe to the 
> Listings Project <https://www.listingsproject.com/>? They often have 
> art/studio spaces listed. I can take a look and see if there's anything 
> viable. price/cost is probably going to be an issue but maybe there's 
> something out there. 
> 
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love that name): 
> Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from various eras.
> To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental space to set 
> up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun with stuff. Could be 
> in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access via bike. I'm 
> envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with vise (Yeh), shared 
> tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used couch for a nap, etc.
> 
> Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?
> 
> Alan
> UWS
> 
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>  (sorry if this is a double send).  
> 
> hey all,
> 
> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent number!   as 
> far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this 
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AA-OoyAF6t9ais0HhXzQR8hmOIOKIyUl-pIlOM9bC54/edit#gid=634347005>,
>  where people can add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can also 
> use it as a shared calendar for activities.
> 
> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form 
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkHWX27Bqkr2M344BLFUHyptbjKCO81teVqZOeM_-VRhtXZQ/viewform>
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
> 
> -Stephen
> 
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
> Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not numb, maybe 
> with drop bars...
> -Kai
> 
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
> Good Morning All,
> I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at least. I suggest 
> meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st, Greenpoint, around 5-6 pm. Not 
> sure where a good ride would be in late afternoon NYC traffic, but we can 
> discuss ideas for future rides depending on when folks are available. I'm 
> thinking tomorrow as meet and greet thing...the beer and sausage selection is 
> excellent. 
> I also think it would be fun to bring a list, written or mental, of 
> parts/bikes wanting to sell/exchange/give away/etc. We all have stuff lying 
> around waiting for a better life. For me, its drop bars.
> 
> Let's see a show of hands!
> 
> Alan UWS
> 
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:55:55 AM UTC-4 jakob.b...@ <>gmail.com 
> <http://gmail.com/> wrote:
> Hi Brooklyn Riv riders. I just moved here from San Francisco 3 weeks ago, 
> game for some rides! Looks like one is in the works next Wednesday, 27th? 
> 
> Cheers,
> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
> 
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years ago, I 
> think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought and sold a 
> few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We could each bring 
> a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, could be fun.
> 
> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
> Alan
> 
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY > <>> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> 
>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from Uptown. 
>> 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there on 
>> a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
>> rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>> -Kai
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on Wednesdays 
>> so I thought I’d ask.
>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I cou

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love that name): 
Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from various eras.
To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental space to set 
up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun with stuff. Could be 
in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access via bike. I'm 
envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with vise (Yeh), shared 
tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used couch for a nap, etc.

Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?

Alan
UWS

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:

>  (sorry if this is a double send).  
>
> hey all,
>
> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent number!  
>  as far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this 
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AA-OoyAF6t9ais0HhXzQR8hmOIOKIyUl-pIlOM9bC54/edit#gid=634347005>,
>  
> where people can add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can also 
> use it as a shared calendar for activities.
>
> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form 
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkHWX27Bqkr2M344BLFUHyptbjKCO81teVqZOeM_-VRhtXZQ/viewform>
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
>>
>> -Stephen
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not numb, 
>>> maybe with drop bars...
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good Morning All,
>>>> I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at least. I 
>>>> suggest meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st, Greenpoint, around 
>>>> 5-6 
>>>> pm. Not sure where a good ride would be in late afternoon NYC traffic, but 
>>>> we can discuss ideas for future rides depending on when folks are 
>>>> available. I'm thinking tomorrow as meet and greet thing...the beer and 
>>>> sausage selection is excellent. 
>>>> I also think it would be fun to bring a list, written or mental, of 
>>>> parts/bikes wanting to sell/exchange/give away/etc. We all have stuff 
>>>> lying 
>>>> around waiting for a better life. For me, its drop bars.
>>>>
>>>> Let's see a show of hands!
>>>>
>>>> Alan UWS
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:55:55 AM UTC-4 jakob.b...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Brooklyn Riv riders. I just moved here from San Francisco 3 weeks 
>>>>> ago, game for some rides! Looks like one is in the works next Wednesday, 
>>>>> 27th? 
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years 
>>>>>> ago, I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve 
>>>>>> bought 
>>>>>> and sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We 
>>>>>> could each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, 
>>>>>> could be fun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
>>>>>> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>>>>>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was 
>>>>>> there on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new 
>>>>>> old 
>>>>>> Ram rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>>>>>>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>>>>>>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>>

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

Good Morning All,
I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at least. I 
suggest meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st, Greenpoint, around 5-6 
pm. Not sure where a good ride would be in late afternoon NYC traffic, but 
we can discuss ideas for future rides depending on when folks are 
available. I'm thinking tomorrow as meet and greet thing...the beer and 
sausage selection is excellent. 
I also think it would be fun to bring a list, written or mental, of 
parts/bikes wanting to sell/exchange/give away/etc. We all have stuff lying 
around waiting for a better life. For me, its drop bars.

Let's see a show of hands!

Alan UWS

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:55:55 AM UTC-4 jakob.b...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Brooklyn Riv riders. I just moved here from San Francisco 3 weeks ago, 
> game for some rides! Looks like one is in the works next Wednesday, 27th? 
>
> Cheers,
> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years 
>> ago, I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought 
>> and sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We 
>> could each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, 
>> could be fun.
>>
>> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
>> Alan
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
>> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there 
>> on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
>> rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>> -Kai
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week 
>>> or another day.
>>>
>>> stephen
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay, got it.
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>>
>>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
>>>>>> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay 
>>>>>> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>>>>>> everyone else could.
>>>>>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>>>>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>> UWS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>>>

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years ago, I 
think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought and sold a 
few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We could each bring a 
mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, could be fun.

Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
Alan

> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from Uptown. 
> 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there on a 
> righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram rolling, 
> and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
> -Kai
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on Wednesdays so 
> I thought I’d ask.
> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week or 
>> another day.
>> 
>> stephen
>> 
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>> Okay, got it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>> 
>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in Greenpoint? 
>>> Say 4 or 5ish?
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>> 
>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
>>> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
>>> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>> everyone else could.
>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> UWS
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh > wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
>>>> ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes 
>>>> along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your 
>>>> helmet inside :)
>>>> 
>>>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding pass 
>>>> ft tilden into town.
>>>> 
>>>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the summer 
>>>> and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>>> 
>>>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep things 
>>>> light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. 
>>>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>>> NY) wrote:
>>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
>>>> biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>> 
>>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 a

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Alan LaVine]

Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on Wednesdays so I 
thought I’d ask.
Let’s all think about next Wednesday.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week or 
> another day.
> 
> stephen
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>> Okay, got it.
>> 
>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>> 
>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in Greenpoint? 
>>>> Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>>>> NY) wrote:
>>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
>>>>> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
>>>>> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>>>>> everyone else could.
>>>>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>>>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>> UWS
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
>>>>>>> ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike 
>>>>>>> lanes along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear 
>>>>>>> your helmet inside :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>>>>>>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>>>>>>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>>>>>>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned 
>>>>>>> e.g. "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna 
>>>>>>> come." 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping 
>>>>>>>>> and biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>>>>>>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a 
>>>>>>>>> few trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could 
>>>>>>>>> pick up lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>>>>>>>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -stephen
>>>>>>>>>

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

Okay, got it.

> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>  wrote:
> 
> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
> 
> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg yesterday. 
> Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot headed to 
> Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an orange Sam 
> passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google Group? Anyway, 
> kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
> 
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in Greenpoint? 
> Say 4 or 5ish?
> 
> Alan
> 
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
> wrote:
> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
> 
> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway around 
> to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
> 
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if everyone 
> else could.
> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in Brooklyn, 
> before we organize a ride.
> 
> Alan
> UWS
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the ride 
>> down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes along 
>> Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your helmet 
>> inside :)
>> 
>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding pass ft 
>> tilden into town.
>> 
>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the summer 
>> and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>> 
>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep things 
>> light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. "riding 
>> to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>> wrote:
>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
>> biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>> 
>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>> 
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out there. 
>> who else is up for it?
>> 
>> -stephen
>> 
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising around 
>> the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with baskets 
>> and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory for the 
>> Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
>> -Kai
>> 
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>> Good morning
>> 
>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Jacob
>> 
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on rides and 
>> to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride organized through 
>> this thread first and then figure out a good way to keep connected? I'm up 
>> for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested way back to just doing 
>> a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest park yesterday while the 
>> weather was nice. 
>> 
>> -stephen
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
>> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s in the 
>> spa)
>> 
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:3

[RBW] Re: Searching for Cheviot info

[alan lavine]

Bill,
Thanks for the useful information, I was just curious is all. Maxway is the 
Japanese company that built the frame?
Leah: Sage green.  It's beautiful but orange would be the holy grail. My 7 
yr. old grandson liked the color so much he (we) are painting his beat up 
old Diamond Back to match, hah! If we ever finish I'll send a pic. So far, 
his tee shirt looks like a piece of modern art.

Alan

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:30:20 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Leah
>
> There's no way Rivendell has had 2481 samples made by Maxway.  It's 
> probably just a rolling counter.  I'll look at my early Hillborne next time 
> I'm in Michigan.  
>
> My wife's Yves Gomez is M9010018.  It was not made in 2090, or 1990, 
> haha.  But 2009 is believable.  So no leading zero, OK.  January 2009, and 
> a four digit number.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:02:56 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Bill, how interesting! After reading this, you know I had to look at my 
>> Platypus serial number. It’s one of the first Platys made, their final 
>> sample before the production run, I think, and this is the number:
>> M20082481
>>
>> Ok, so 2020, August - yes, that all makes sense since I got the frame in 
>> October 2020. But then what about the 2481? There were probably less than 
>> 200 Platypuses made. Could this mean it is the 2,481st SAMPLE in 
>> Rivendell’s history? How perplexing. 
>>
>> Alan - congrats on your first Cheviot. You’re the luckiest to have 
>> snagged one. You forgot the most important detail - what color? 
>>
>> If spring would ever arrive, I’d be riding that Platypus instead of 
>> ruminating over this mystery, but alas. 39 degrees and windy. No sun. 
>> Leah
>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> People were discussing the decoding of Maxway serial numbers recently.  
>>> I think they decided that it's M for Maxway, who made it.  Then YY for the 
>>> year, in your case 2018, then MM for the month, in your case October, 
>>> followed by a sequence number, in your case 0041.  I think they got 
>>> shipments of frames like 100 at a time.  I would guess somewhere in the 
>>> 1000 range would be in the ballpark of the total Cheviots built.  
>>>
>>> If that is in fact the date, what are you looking to do with that 
>>> information?  Just satisfying a curiosity?
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:15:00 AM UTC-7 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I recently bought a new Cheviot frame from a list member that I'm 
>>>> slowly building up. Trying to find out the year of production, where 
>>>> produced, etc. I think they were first released around 2014 or 2015, but 
>>>> anyone know when they stopped and how many were made?
>>>>
>>>> From the bb shell: M18100041 and BBM1. Its a size 60, if that matters.
>>>>
>>>> Any information would be much appreciated.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alan NYC
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in Greenpoint? 
Say 4 or 5ish?

Alan

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>
> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>> everyone else could.
>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>
>> Alan
>> UWS
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>
>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
>> ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes 
>> along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your 
>> helmet inside :)
>>
>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding pass 
>> ft tilden into town.
>>
>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>
>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. 
>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
>>> biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>
>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>>
>>>> -stephen
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
>>>>> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races 
>>>>> with 
>>>>> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
>>>>> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>>>>>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on 
>>>>>>>> rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride 
>>>>>>>> organized through this thread first and then figure out a good way to 
>>>>>>>> keep 
>>>>>>>> connected? I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai 
>>>>>>>> suggested way 
>>>>>>>> back to just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest 
>>>>>>>> park 
>>>>>>>> yesterday while the weather was nice. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -stephen
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:

[RBW] Searching for Cheviot info

[alan lavine]

Hello,
I recently bought a new Cheviot frame from a list member that I'm slowly 
building up. Trying to find out the year of production, where produced, 
etc. I think they were first released around 2014 or 2015, but anyone know 
when they stopped and how many were made?

>From the bb shell: M18100041 and BBM1. Its a size 60, if that matters.

Any information would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Alan NYC

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if everyone 
else could.
Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in Brooklyn, 
before we organize a ride.

Alan
UWS

> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
> 
> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the ride 
> down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes along 
> Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your helmet 
> inside :)
> 
> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding pass ft 
> tilden into town.
> 
> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the summer 
> and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
> 
> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep things 
> light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. "riding 
> to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
> 
> 
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
> wrote:
> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and biking 
> in the Gunks this weekend. 
> 
> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up lunch 
> en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
> 
> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out there. who 
> else is up for it?
> 
> -stephen
> 
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
> 
> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising around 
> the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with baskets 
> and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory for the 
> Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
> -Kai
> 
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
> Good morning
> 
> I'd like to get in on this as well.
> Murray Hill // Clem H
> 
> Thanks
> Jacob
> 
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on rides and 
> to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride organized through 
> this thread first and then figure out a good way to keep connected? I'm up 
> for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested way back to just doing 
> a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest park yesterday while the 
> weather was nice. 
> 
> -stephen
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s in the 
> spa)
> 
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is warming up 
> i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the list of folks that 
> responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly above):
> 
> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
> Alan / UWS /
> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
> Austin / ** / Roadini
> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
> 
> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start arranging/proposing 
> rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  As far as organizing methods, 
> any votes?  keep it in this post, create a sub-group?   private email list?   
>  
> 
> And for any new folks that didnt see this originally, feel free to jump in, 
> we are not trying to replace the group, but trying to create a smaller thread 
> for hyper-local stuff like rides, parts swap etc.  
> 
> weather is breaking so lets get out there!  maybe Kai will bring that new Ram!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:41 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com <> wrote:
> Also interested! Also in Bed Stuy with my Joe Appaloosa!
> 
> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 chase@gmail.com <> wrote:
> Keep me posted if some rides get organized, for sure interested. I am in Bed 
> Stuy with a Clem L and a Sam. Sounds fun! Chase
> 
> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:11:40 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
> I cannot do any riding with the group on a regular basis, seeing that I live 
> about 90 miles south in Philadelphia, but if the group comes over to the NJ 
> side for a ride or part of ride, I'd join you.  It's always nice meeting like 
> minded people.
> 
> Kai, I love your Roscoe mixte, and especially your homemade weaved basket.  
> That is art to my eyes.  
> 
> Roberta
> 
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 

[RBW] WTB-wheelset

[alan lavine]

So I'm looking for a wheel set for my newly acquired Cheviot 
frame.Requirements: 9 Spd cassette, wide enough for 42-50 700c tires, and 
robust. Meaning that me and the bike will be a bit over 200 lbs and at some 
point may do some CC touring, but not fully loaded touring.Will be using 
tubes.On road riding only.

Open to a lightly used set and/or recs for purchasing new. Looking to spend 
around 250-350 $.

Thanks to all,
Alan

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[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

Hi Minh,
I'm on the UWS in Manhattan and I'd be happy to join you.A few years ago I 
organized a meet up at a beer garden in Greenpoint. Only a handful of us 
came but fun. Would love to repeat when the warm weather comes.Actually, 
for those fully vaccinated and comfortable eating in restaurants, I suppose 
we could meet even now.
Alan

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two kids and a 
> job that burns the present daylight hours away)
> I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river to Jersey 
> City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. From there we 
> could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then weave our way 
> down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge we can. Every 
> crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous would be fine, 
> if you're into that sort of thing...
> Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, whatevs)
> -Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among others
>
> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn 
>> Riv'sters, maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow 
>> riders that will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to 
>> intimidate the go-fast riders in Prospect Park.  
>>
>> In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately 
>> trying to justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  Something 
>> that would go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with 
>> like-minded folks.   Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of 
>> town?  I know i've seen a sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the park, 
>> if you see me on my QB--you'll know its me from the over the top 
>> accessories, please say hi!
>>
>> If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we can 
>> start a local mini thread? 
>>
>> On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely to 
>> use that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is open 
>> taking donations, please let me know!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn Bags-Obsolete Tan Color

[alan lavine]

I will happily take one of the handlebar bags and one of the small front 
bags.  Let me know how to proceed.
AlanNYC
On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 1:58:45 PM UTC-4 mike goldman wrote:

> All bags are rip free and in excellent condition. The worst beaustainage 
> is shown on the top large bag but I'm confident it can easily be removed.
>
> The first picture: (2) Large rear bags $90 shipped each , (2) Handlebar 
> bags $90 shipped each
> The second picture: (2) medium rear bags $70 shipped each, (3) small front 
> bag $40 shipped each
>
> mike goldman
> warwick, rhode island
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[RBW] Re: Seat bag security

[alan lavine]

Another option is stainless steel zip ties, placed where they are obviously 
noticeable.  Very difficult to cut with diagonal pliers but easy to cut 
with sharp surgical sissorsthat's the dirty little secret.  But it 
looks impressive.  Available on line at Home Depot.

Alan NYC
On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 3:58:58 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> In the big city, I usually ride with one Ortlieb bag on the left, then 
> take it with me wherever I go. They're light enough to carry only a few 
> items in, and it expands in case I go to a store and buy some snacks. The 
> quick release is always reliable for me.
>
> The Sackville bags are nice, but I wouldn't risk one getting stolen. 
>
> m
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 2:19:15 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> When I lived in Chicago and used a Carradice I would pair it with a 
>> Pletscher rear rack with a mousetrap. When I parked the bike I would open 
>> the mousetrap over the bag and then use a little padlock to lock a loop on 
>> the bag to the mousetrap. It was an easy lockup trick and nobody every 
>> messed with it. 
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 12:37:36 PM UTC-5 Greg J wrote:
>>
>>> On my Bart bike (which I leave at the station all day during non-covid 
>>> times), I loop a thin braided steel cable (like 2-3mm diameter, ~10" long) 
>>> through the bag and the seatpost binder bolt.  These were typically used to 
>>> theft-deter quick release seat posts.  On at least a couple of occasions, I 
>>> found my bag (just a cheap Jannd, but still, I don't want it stolen) 
>>> hanging off the bike but still attached because the thief couldn't just 
>>> walk off with it.  Of course, I don't leave anything valuable in the bag, 
>>> and you could pretty easily cut through the cable if you were determined.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 7:16:09 AM UTC-7 zem...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I've always wanted to attach a fancy Sackville bag to my bike, but I 
 live in Toronto where stuff gets stolen off your bike all the time. So 
 I've 
 resigned myself to only using bike parts I can bolt down.

 Anyone else deal with this? Any suggestions for locking down or 
 otherwise securing seat bags? 

 Cheers!

 Zack
 Toronto, Canada

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Regrets

[alan lavine]

I totally agree with Patrick's comments, I could have written it myself. 
 I'm learning, slowly...
You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  
What a weird expression that is!

Alan
NYC

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 8:16:16 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> This 64cm Sam Hillborne- https://photos.app.goo.gl/oe7AdWXzUKB8NF8dA
> but it's in a good home.
> I popped the seatstay top braze off and had the joy of talking with 
> Richard Schwinn about fixing it better than new, which he did for free. 
> Once I had it back I was busy riding a Quickbeam and a Clem H, and felt 
> weird about it having broken for some crazy reason, and sold it for a 
> song...
> -Kai
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:56:06 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>
>> In my seemingly endless search to optimize my bike collection, fill gaps, 
>> and try new and cool bikes, I recently realized how many bikes I've had in 
>> my life and how many questionable decisions I've made. There are a number 
>> of choices I've made, for better or worse, to sell bikes in order to make 
>> room for other bikes, downsize, or simply because I felt they weren't 
>> getting the use they deserved.
>>
>> My question to the group is: what bike or bikes do you most regret 
>> selling, trading, or giving away?  
>>
>> For me, as you may know, I absolutely regret selling my Roadini, and an 
>> old Marinoni touring bike that I originally thought was too big for me (I 
>> realize now how wrong I was, and am currently in the process of replacing 
>> it!).
>>
>> Would love to hear what regrets others here have!
>>
>> <3
>> Damien
>>
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[alan lavine]

If I had a space like some of y’all, I’d never see the outside world again.

Well…except to restock coffee, chocolate, whiskey and cigars.

> On Mar 12, 2021, at 7:33 PM, Kieran J  wrote:
> 
> I've only had this house for a year so my bike shed (100 year old single car 
> garage) is still a work in progress. Here's its current state.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> KJ
> 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Roadini frame

[Alan LaVine]

My mistake..
I meant 1-2” HB above the saddle. Sorry 
Alan

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> On Jan 3, 2021, at 8:36 AM, Eric Daume  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just for reference, at 6'3", 36" PBH, 32" saddle height, I was pretty 
> comfortable on the 61 Roadini when I briefly owned one this summer. And 
> especially if you want your saddle above the bars, a 57cm is probably the way 
> to go.
> 
> Eric
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 8:11 AM alan lavine  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Not that I "need" another project but recent posts have me intrigued about 
>> this bike, plus I have a lot of parts to use up.  Not sure of size...I'm 
>> 5'11" with PBH 90, ideal saddle height 79.  Seems like I'm between the 61 
>> and 57.  Normally ride with saddle maybe 1-2 " above HB.
>> 
>> The orange makes me drool.  Would consider full build if the price is right.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Alan NYC
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[RBW] WTB: Roadini frame

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
Not that I "need" another project but recent posts have me intrigued about 
this bike, plus I have a lot of parts to use up.  Not sure of size...I'm 
5'11" with PBH 90, ideal saddle height 79.  Seems like I'm between the 61 
and 57.  Normally ride with saddle maybe 1-2 " above HB.

The orange makes me drool.  Would consider full build if the price is right.

Thanks,
Alan NYC

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini - Orange - Complete - $1000

[alan lavine]

Hi,
Looked at the fotos on Instagram and someone asked about the 6 speed FW 
with 2 cogs removed, mounted onto a SS/fixed hub.  I'm very interested in 
doing the same thing.  Can you give details, please?

Thanks,
Alan NYC

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 4:24:38 PM UTC-4, David B wrote:
>
> After mulling bike decisions, and working from home for several months now 
> (and at least until December too for sure), I've had time to play around 
> with my bike lineup and have decided to pass on my Roadini. It's a 
> wonderful bike for sure, but my Clem and 650b'd Redwood are a better fit 
> for the dirt (often muddy) trails around me. And for taller folks, it's 
> comparable in fit (nearly identical) to my 65cm Redwood - with the 61cm 
> Roadini actually having higher stack. And it's super comfy - if I could've 
> fit 47mm 650b tires and fenders in it, I would be keeping the Roadini 
> instead of my Redwood.
>
> Offering this as a complete first. If there's no interest, I may consider 
> selling it as a frameset and parting it out. Shifting bits are eclectic, 
> though I think I have more modern parts that I could swap in.
> Build includes:
>
> Riv Roadini Frame/Fork - orange in very nice used condition
> Sun/Shimano Wheelset - handbuilt recently, Shimano RS400 hubs, Sun CR18 
> polished silver rims, 36 Sapim 14ga spokes
> Panaracer Gravelking Tires - 700x38 - new as of last week
> Sunrace 8-speed cassette
> Suntour ARX Rear Derailleur - medium/long cage
> Suntour Accushift Downtube Shifter - set to friction, won't match in 
> indexed mode - have matching ratcheting left shifter I can include
> Stock Seatpost
> Nitto Technomic Stem - 10cm, 26.0mm
> Velo Orange Grand Cru Drop Bars - 46cm, maes parallel clone
> Shimano Brake Levers
> Shimano Medium Reach Brakes - added matching cartridge pad holders/salmon 
> brake pads
> Shimano Dura Ace 7410 Crankset - 172.5mm - 43t chainring w/ de-toothed 
> chainring bashguard - happy to swap this to a double chainring setup
> VP Pedals
> Fizik Saddle
>
> Photos here when I had it set up with different wheels and less gears: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B_u6qH3Fynr/
>
> $1000 plus shipping - bell not included, pedals/saddle are.
> This isn't a financially-motivated sale, so I'm likely not too open to 
> offers, but feel free to send if you think my price is off.
> Local sale would be preferred - can travel a reasonable distance from the 
> Chicago area to meet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Paul Levers, Brakes, Thumbies

[Alan LaVine]

My bad...didn’t realize they were long pull...I wanted short pull.
Sorry  
Alan

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> I’ll go for the brake levers.
> Alan nyc 
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[RBW] FS: Paul Levers, Brakes, Thumbies

[alan lavine]

I’ll go for the brake levers.
Alan nyc 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Travel bikes

[alan lavine]

I have a Dahon Tournado, bought off CL locally. It’s the only one I’ve ever 
seen, clearly made by Richey.  It’s a very comfortable real, regular bike that 
gets frequent use around town. Just so happens you can take the frame 
apartI’ve traveled with it 3-4 times and never paid for oversized or bike 
fees (what’s in it? Bike parts for display).
I would buy a Breakaway in a heartbeat if something happened to this one.
Does anyone have any more information about this Dahon?
Thanks 
Alan nyc 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Brakes & Levers: Motolites, Mini Motos, Cantis, ANO COLORS PURRRPLE

[Alan LaVine]

Got this

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles 
> <4824...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Sent
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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Brakes & Levers: Motolites, Mini Motos, Cantis, ANO COLORS PURRRPLE

[alan lavine]

Alex,
Try "cigar four six zero" at gmail
Alan

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 9:20:40 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
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> Hi Alan! Thanks for reaching out because I didn't see anything come in...
>
> I'll send you a PM right now...
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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Brakes & Levers: Motolites, Mini Motos, Cantis, ANO COLORS PURRRPLE

[alan lavine]

Hi 
I sent a PM about a set of silver mini motos, but not sure if you got it. 
 Anyway, I'll take one.
Alan
NYC

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 5:46:16 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Silver cantis sold
>
> I have the following two brake sets left:
>
> (2) sets silver mini motos (a bikes worth) $260 Shipped ($310 +shipping on 
> Paul site)
>
> (2) sets black touring cantis (a bikes worth) $180 Shipped ($234 +shipping 
> on Paul site)
>
>
> Thanks!!
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Re: [RBW] Sew-Ups Anyone?

[Alan Lavine]

Do you add the sealant as a road side repair? Or change tires and add sealant 
at home?
Alan

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Bill Schairer  wrote:
> 
> “Tell me about sealant and tubulars.  Do you mean pressurized sealant in a 
> can like Vittoria, once you flat,or sealant you add preventively as routine?“
> 
> Alan,  I’m using effetto mariposa caffelatex.  It has no ammonia.  I was told 
> ammonia (in Stans?) will dissolve latex tubes.
> 
> I’ve read some use it preventatively but I wait for my first puncture before 
> adding it.  After that, it seems to do very well as a preventative although 
> there have been times where I’ve lost enough air that I had to add more air 
> on a ride and then the tire does just fine.  In one case, I was taking a 
> break with a friend and all of a sudden I heard the air escaping from a 
> previously sealed tire.  It didn’t go all the way flat so I spun it and aired 
> up again and finished the ride.  Figured the sealant gave way but then was 
> able to re-seal?  I don’t know if I am just lucky or if latex tubes generally 
> hold air after a puncture better than butyl but most of the punctures I have 
> had were not evident until the day after my ride.  Does anyone know about 
> that? I’ve never added sealant on a ride and, like I said, only had to change 
> one tire on the road due to puncture.  That was a cut that I had to patch.
> 
> Bill S
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Re: [RBW] Sew-Ups Anyone?

[alan lavine]

Tell me about sealant and tubulars.  Do you mean pressurized sealant in a 
can like Vittoria, once you flat,or sealant you add preventively as routine?

Thanks,
Alan NYC

On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 2:31:08 PM UTC-4, Bill Schairer wrote:
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> Oh, I think Vittoria(?) produces a 50mm tubular under another brand name 
> which I forget.  Somebody does but, nonetheless, tire choices do seem to be 
> quite limited.
>
> Bill S
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Riv Protovelo price reduction $999

[Alan LaVine]

Yes, sold.

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> On Oct 26, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> Sold. He had another listing for it. 
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[RBW] Re: Fall Ride Recommendations outside NYC?

[alan lavine]

Hey Mark,
Do you have a turn by turn route sheet for the Cold Spring ride?  I tried 
to get it on the site but as I am a digital moron, couldn't.
Thanks,
Alan

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 7:16:43 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
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> If you take the train to Cold Spring, this route begins and ends there. 
> Contact me PM if you need more info or a variation. The Map My Ride 
> interface is not great.
> Anyway, it's possible to do a good portion of riding from Cold Spring on 
> low traffic dirt roads such as Indian Brook, Lanes Gate, Old Albany Post, 
> Sunken Mine. This route uses some but you could add more. Take a look at 
> the map and you can see how to incorporate more or less of those.
>
> 
> https://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/1644490685
>
> On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 4:26:58 PM UTC-4, ScaD wrote:
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>> Just checking to see if anyone has a Fall ride (mostly low cars or light 
>> off road if possible) that's easy to reach by train from NYC.  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Riv Protovelo 57.5cm, $1100

[alan lavine]

Bike is sold, thanks everyone.
Alan

On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 9:22:44 AM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Thank you, Bill.   Wasn't sure how to do this.
>
> On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 8:48:56 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Bumping this for Alan Lavine, since he posted a new thread announcing a 
>> new price for a bike with no description or pictures.  His new price 
>> appears to be $999
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 4:27:33 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I bought this from the original owner, who bought it from Kevin at Riv 
>>> in 2012.  We don't have a lot of specific info on this frame.  One Riv 
>>> employee suggested it could have been geometry testing for the San Marcos 
>>> with thinner tubing.  Geometry looks very close to a 57 Roadini.  The owner 
>>> believed, but wasn't 100% sure, that the fork was a Roadeo fork from Toyo, 
>>> based on the slender curve.  The head tube has Hilborne lugs but AHHilson 
>>> on the BBshell.  Strangely, front brake is medium reach and rear is long 
>>> reach. It's intended to be a go-fast bike, lighter and more nimble than 
>>> other Riv's.  
>>> If anyone has more info, please chime in.
>>>
>>> The numbers:
>>> -ST 57.5 c-t
>>> -TT 57.5 actual, 58-59 effective
>>> -CS 45, WB 106
>>> -130 rear spacing
>>>
>>> The build:
>>> -Compass Maes Bars 44 cm hood-hood
>>> -Nitto technomic stem 7 cm
>>> -Grand Comp (dia comp) non-aero levers with q/r
>>> -front der Tiagra, rear der Claris
>>> -Shimano 8 spd indexed bar end levers, new 8 spd IRD cassette
>>> -VO crank 48/34 175 mm, new Shimano 110 BB
>>> -105 hubs 36 hole on Velocity A23 rims
>>> -FSA headset
>>> -Berhoud Mente saddle, 180 w, 278 long.  Has some scuffs, a bit softened 
>>> with mink oil but not yet broken in.
>>> -nearly new Compass Bon Jon Pass 700x35 EL, maybe 75 miles
>>> -seat height in pic =76 cm
>>>
>>> I'll be keeping the pedals and Acorn saddle bag.
>>> Offering as a local sale for now.  Please contact me for questions or if 
>>> I'm way off on the price.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan NYC
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Protovelo 57.5cm, $1100

[alan lavine]

Thank you, Bill.   Wasn't sure how to do this.

On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 8:48:56 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Bumping this for Alan Lavine, since he posted a new thread announcing a 
> new price for a bike with no description or pictures.  His new price 
> appears to be $999
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 4:27:33 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I bought this from the original owner, who bought it from Kevin at Riv in 
>> 2012.  We don't have a lot of specific info on this frame.  One Riv 
>> employee suggested it could have been geometry testing for the San Marcos 
>> with thinner tubing.  Geometry looks very close to a 57 Roadini.  The owner 
>> believed, but wasn't 100% sure, that the fork was a Roadeo fork from Toyo, 
>> based on the slender curve.  The head tube has Hilborne lugs but AHHilson 
>> on the BBshell.  Strangely, front brake is medium reach and rear is long 
>> reach. It's intended to be a go-fast bike, lighter and more nimble than 
>> other Riv's.  
>> If anyone has more info, please chime in.
>>
>> The numbers:
>> -ST 57.5 c-t
>> -TT 57.5 actual, 58-59 effective
>> -CS 45, WB 106
>> -130 rear spacing
>>
>> The build:
>> -Compass Maes Bars 44 cm hood-hood
>> -Nitto technomic stem 7 cm
>> -Grand Comp (dia comp) non-aero levers with q/r
>> -front der Tiagra, rear der Claris
>> -Shimano 8 spd indexed bar end levers, new 8 spd IRD cassette
>> -VO crank 48/34 175 mm, new Shimano 110 BB
>> -105 hubs 36 hole on Velocity A23 rims
>> -FSA headset
>> -Berhoud Mente saddle, 180 w, 278 long.  Has some scuffs, a bit softened 
>> with mink oil but not yet broken in.
>> -nearly new Compass Bon Jon Pass 700x35 EL, maybe 75 miles
>> -seat height in pic =76 cm
>>
>> I'll be keeping the pedals and Acorn saddle bag.
>> Offering as a local sale for now.  Please contact me for questions or if 
>> I'm way off on the price.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan NYC
>>
>

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[RBW] FS Riv Protovelo price reduction $999

[alan lavine]

Hello,
No real interest so far, so price drop.  It is a genuine RIV !

Thanks,
Alan NYC

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[RBW] Re: FS: Big Front Rack and Acorn M/L Saddle Bag

[alan lavine]

Hi
Can I see some side photos of the bag? Interested.
Thanks,
Alan

On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 4:59:06 PM UTC-4, Birdman wrote:
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> Rack is sold.
>
> Bag is still available.
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[RBW] FS: New Nitto threadless tig Bullmoose Bars

[alan lavine]

I’ll take them!
Send details please.
Thanks 
Alan nyc 

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam 62cm Complete for sale

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PM sent with some questions.
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[RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

[alan lavine]

Thank you, Garth, for clarifying a complex issue.
Alan
NYC

On Saturday, March 30, 2019 at 5:43:22 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
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>
>
> Life is Living and Living is Life.  Indivisibility, Infinity .  Life 
> cannot harm or heal Life for the simple fact that *Life Itself Living is 
> Living Itself Life  .*   
>
> Life is Life's Own-Life.. 
>
>
> BEING The BEING That BEING Be  BEING ITSELF* .   * The who, what, 
> where, when, why and how  ALL BEING Being The ALL BEING ... ALL-ITSELF .
>
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Sackville Bags

[Alan LaVine]

Send me payment details and I’ll do PayPal. I’ll be home tomorrow 

Alan

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> 
> Hi Alan, yes the x-small is all yours. Let me know when you return from your 
> travels. 
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[RBW] FS: Sackville Bags

[alan lavine]

Hi,
I’m on my cell while traveling . Would love #3 x-small tan sackville if 
available.
Thanks
Alan NYC

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[RBW] Re: A Boy, A Bike, and A Benefactor

[alan lavine]

Wow...just Wow!  What a story, and beautifully written.  Something for all 
of us to learn from this, especially in the current climate...it's all 
about human to human interactions.  We can't fix the world but we can do 
individual things that make a difference.

Leah, best of luck with your upcoming life challenges.

Alan
NYC

On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 10:59:54 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> A Boy, A Bike, and A Benefactor: A True and Heartwarming Rivendell Tale 
>
> If you are living here and now, you probably notice a scarcity of kindness 
> and generosity. You aren’t sure how we got here and how to change it, and 
> also, you’re exhausted. What can we really do? This is a story that turns 
> one’s typical experience on its head - a story that takes the word kind and 
> stretches it, tests it, transforms it. In this story, we see the word 
> kindness become generosity. 
>
> Generous. When was the last time someone was generous with you? So 
> generous you stood there, nonplussed and humbled? Merriam-Webster defines 
> the word generous as “liberal in giving: openhanded.” I will tack onto that 
> definition from the Book of Leah: “giving until it pinches a bit; the kind 
> of giving that costs one something; giving without expectation for 
> something in return; a higher form of kindness.” (Also, there would be some 
> stuff about Jesus in there, but this is not that forum so I will refrain, 
> but it will be hard.) 
>
> Where you find generosity, there you will find kindness, also. 
>
> This is a story about a benefactor. This is a story about a boy. And 
> finally, this is a story about a bike. Your icing on the cake: this is a 
> story about a convergence of the three. 
>
> I had found myself in need of a bigger bike for my 12 year old son, Ethan. 
> He had ridden his Specialized Hotrock from 1st grade until now, his 7th 
> grade year. In kid years, that’s a coon’s age to have ridden one bike. We 
> ride to school every week, 2 miles one way, and we need  dependable, 
> quality bikes to do it. Bikes for pre-teens are rare as hen’s teeth; but 
> you know this. The company I was depending on for a kids’ bicycle had 
> suddenly closed its doors, so I turned to the Riv List, as is my custom. 
> Though disappointed about losing my first choice, I knew I’d be shown the 
> right places to shop, and be on my way with the problem solved. 
>
> This is exactly what happened. I reached out, people were kind, I took a 
> recommendation, and I ordered a bike with a bullet-proof return policy. 
> Several days went by, and then one night I decided to clean out my email. 
> In my Junk folder, there was an email I had never seen, from several days 
> prior, and this is what it said: 
>
> “If you are second guessing yourself, and humble enough to accept a 
> generous gift for one of my favorite riding families; if you would accept a 
> 45cm Clem to pass down to your boys I would happily cover the difference 
> between the Woom you ordered and the mini Clem to help RBW. My only request 
> is that if you accept; to keep me anonymous.” 
>
> Let that sink in. Do you know what he’s saying? Look again...read it a few 
> times...see if you can believe it. He had to spell it out for me when I 
> couldn’t get my mind around it. Emails. A phone call: Take the money you 
> planned to spend on the other bike; put it into a little Clem, the rest is 
> covered. This is a Benefactor, proposing a deal that costs him to bless 
> another. An openhanded giver, giving so that it pinches. 
>
> When was the last time someone was generous to you? 
>
> Once I understood, there was a choice to make. What did the Benefactor 
> ask? Am I humble enough to accept a generous offer - that was his question. 
> Reflexively: I am not, and this is pride. I don’t deserve a Benefactor. I 
> didn’t earn this bike. I haven’t done anything for this man. I won’t likely 
> have a chance to repay him for his kindness. How can I make it equal? Fair 
> to him? Say no, said my pride. 
>
> When was the last time someone was generous to you? Did you allow it? 
>
> So we spoke on the phone. We had a lovely discussion about who he is and 
> how he arrived at this idea, and why he sent the email. Then I realized: my 
> Benefactor wasn’t looking to make it equal. He was aiming for quite the 
> opposite. 
>
> When was the last time someone took less so you could have more? 
>
> I spoke to Ethan this morning, asked him what he thought. It was Christmas 
> in October around here - there was actual jumping for joy. “I never thought 
> I’d have a Rivendell!”  Humbled, I agreed to the deal. Our Benefactor took 
> care of everything. He made the call, placed the order, sent me an email 
> with an order confirmation, and now there’s a little silver mini-Clem, 
> pony-like and lovely, with a boy’s name on it, sent from a Benefactor he 
> can never repay. 
>
> When was the last time you were generous to someone who would never repay 
> you? 
>
> Today, 

[RBW] Re: Packing and/or shipping bike damage: Any strategies for successful resolution?

[alan lavine]

Sorry, that sucks.

My experience with bike shops packing bikes has not been good.  Mostly this 
has happened when I'm traveling away from home, and don't have the 
facilities to do it myself.  It's often relegated to the low person on the 
totem pole of the shop, since it requires no special skills, at least in 
their eyes.  I've had minor damage and once lost a classic Riv saddlebag 
with some great tools inside.

So if I'm home, I'll do it myself, even if I really don't enjoy the 
project.  If traveling, I would make it a point to discuss with the owner 
or manager the specific details of the job, who's going to do it, maybe 
even provide them with some store bought packing materials for the job. 
 Don't just leave it with the person behind the counterdo what you can 
to politely call attention to the job so its not routine to the shop.  No 
guarantee, but might help.

Alan
NYC

On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 10:41:00 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
> I guess there is a first time for everything.  The beautiful, pristine Sam 
> I sold recently was damaged by what looks like a bad packing job, and the 
> bike shop owners are pointing the finger at Fedex, even though the box 
> isn't showing any signs of being hit, penetrated, folded, creased, etc..  
>
> Never had this issue before.  I've never used this shop to ship a bike 
> before, but they have 5 locations in this area, have been around a while, 
> and are fairly popular.  They carry Santa Cruz, Specialized, Cannondale. 
> The Sam's buyer has pictures showing several areas where the paint has been 
> rubbed off down to the metal by what looks like metal-to-metal contact 
> (likely a bar-end shifter).  Foam had obviously fallen off several areas 
> leaving frame and components to rub against each other.  A zip tie 
> apparently was applied so tightly that paint was rubbed off.  The wooden 
> plug in the seat tube had fallen out, causing the paint on the point of the 
> seat lug to be rubbed off.  The seatpost collar clamp bolt is missing.  It 
> really makes me sick to think of that bike in that condition ... and of 
> course the buyer is very disappointed, this being their first Riv.
>
> All evidence points to a poor packing job, but the bike shop manager, with 
> whom the buyer and I spoke with today, said that the owners think it's 
> Fedex's issue to resolve.  I was flabbergasted, and have escalated to the 
> shop owner, who is supposed to call me to discuss.
>
> In the meantime, we're looking into Fedex claims.  Bikeflights terms and 
> conditions state very clearly that by shipping via Bikeflights, you agree 
> to pack the bike very well, per their recommendations.  I'm not sure what 
> the insurance is for except for the even worse case of the bike being 
> lost.If 
>
> I'm thinking there has to be more than one of you who has been in a 
> similar situation of dealing with finger-pointing packers vs. shippers.  
> Any recommendations for resolving?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] Re: PRICE REDUCTION 60 cm Quickbeam

[Alan LaVine]

Thanks for the info. I found that I changed the gears only once in the time 
that I owned it, and not likely to do it again. Just lazy. I have another fixed 
gear I use around town.
Alan

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> On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:43 PM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
> 
> I think it’s a reasonable price, which may require the interest of a 
> reasonable person. Seriously, that does seem to be the ballpark Quickbeams 
> play in. Much less and people around here start speculating “what’s wrong 
> with it?”
> 
> I don’t know if you cross posted to the BOB list, but I think it’s a bigger 
> list, and more skewed toward that vintage of Rivendell. $1300 sales/purchases 
> can take some time, especially for a ‘niche’ bike. Plus there are a couple 
> other QBs or Simpleones on the market now, creating the perception that 
> there’s no rush to buy. 
> 
> My Quickbeam is set up for commuting, but in the past I used it for 25-40 mi 
> road rides, Oregon logging roads, and... commuting. It has a silver Paul 
> single-sided silver rear wheel, a SON klassik front, and a matching Paul 
> front wheel I’ve never actually used; surly dingle 17/21 cog and Dura-Ace 
> square taper cranks with 39/44 rings. CX50 brakes, Ultegra gray levers, Nitto 
> WTB dirt drops, Salsa steel stem painted to match the bike. 52mm Zeppein 
> fenders also painted to match the bike, 38mm Vittoria Hypers. VP-001 pedals. 
> Brooks all weather saddle. Original seatpost and headset. I’d have to pull 
> the BB, but I assume Shimano. You know - the usual stuff! 
> 
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
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[RBW] Re: FS-Quickbeam 60 cm, multi geared, $1350

[alan lavine]

Dave,
In a separate thread after the original for sale post, titled "quickbeam FS 
fotos, you will find the pics. It's dated September 4thif you can't find it 
I'll be happy to send them to you.
Alan NYC 

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[RBW] Re: FS-Quickbeam 60 cm, multi geared, $1350

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
Surprising lack of interest in this QB...I should have sold it at the 
beginning of the summer, but was hoping for a tour that didn't happen.

How about a price reduction to $1200 ?

Alan
NYC

On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 5:57:00 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Selling this Riv classic that doesn't get much use.  I set it up for 
> touring which didn't (and won't) happen.
> Serial # 04019085
> ST 60 cm c-t, TT 58 cm (my measurements)
> Wheels: Phil Wood hubs laced to Belgium HED 32 spoke rims. Compass Barlow 
> Pass EL tires, 700 x 38 with good tread
> Drive train: Sakae XS crank with 38 and 36 chainrings, Surly dingle 17-21 
> in rear.  This yields useable gears of 61,49,47 inches. Excellent chain 
> line. 170 crank length.
> Nitto noodles 46 (44 brake hoods c-c) with Nitto Dirt Drop stem 8cm. 
>  Brooks leather bar wrap, lots of beausage.
> Brakes: Avid shorty 4 front, Paul Canti rear. Shimano levers with gray 
> plastic.
> Brooks B17 saddle, good condition, on no name seatpost with decent setback.
>
> Includes:
> VO smooth metal fenders
> VO decaleur rack
> Vo Randonneur bag
> Greenfield kickstand.
>
> Will post some picks as soon as I get it cleaned up a bit, but y'all know 
> what it looks like.  Overall good to VG condition.
> Strongly prefer local sale but will consider shipping at buyers expense if 
> I have to. If I'm off base with the price, let's talk.
>
> Best,
> Alan NYC
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: PRICE REDUCTION 60 cm Quickbeam

[Alan LaVine,]

Ah, got it, thanks.
Do you think the price is reasonable?  Just out of curiosity, how is yours set 
up and what type of riding do you use it for?

Alan
NYC 

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> On Sep 8, 2018, at 9:49 PM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
> 
> If you want to make it super simple for potential customers to see your ad, 
> and know how much you'd take for the bike, you could also reply to your 
> original FS post with the new price. 
> 
> Your Quickbeam brother,
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
> 
>> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 12:01:33 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>> Waimart Pricing: $1249.49
>> 
>> Full listing below with pics.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Alan NYC
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[RBW] PRICE REDUCTION 60 cm Quickbeam

[alan lavine]

Waimart Pricing: $1249.49

Full listing below with pics.

Thanks
Alan NYC

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[RBW] Re: FS-Quickbeam 60 cm, multi geared, $1350

[alan lavine]

I actually didn't know that about the Dingle.  Maybe I should raise the 
price ? Hah!

On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 6:46:51 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Wow! Almost worth it for the Dingle Cog alone! They don’t make those 
> anymore, and the 17-21 is now a mythic creature. Grin. Someone is gonna 
> love this bike! 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] FS-Quickbeam 60 cm, multi geared, $1350

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
Selling this Riv classic that doesn't get much use.  I set it up for 
touring which didn't (and won't) happen.
Serial # 04019085
ST 60 cm c-t, TT 58 cm (my measurements)
Wheels: Phil Wood hubs laced to Belgium HED 32 spoke rims. Compass Barlow 
Pass EL tires, 700 x 38 with good tread
Drive train: Sakae XS crank with 38 and 36 chainrings, Surly dingle 17-21 
in rear.  This yields useable gears of 61,49,47 inches. Excellent chain 
line. 170 crank length.
Nitto noodles 46 (44 brake hoods c-c) with Nitto Dirt Drop stem 8cm. 
 Brooks leather bar wrap, lots of beausage.
Brakes: Avid shorty 4 front, Paul Canti rear. Shimano levers with gray 
plastic.
Brooks B17 saddle, good condition, on no name seatpost with decent setback.

Includes:
VO smooth metal fenders
VO decaleur rack
Vo Randonneur bag
Greenfield kickstand.

Will post some picks as soon as I get it cleaned up a bit, but y'all know 
what it looks like.  Overall good to VG condition.
Strongly prefer local sale but will consider shipping at buyers expense if 
I have to. If I'm off base with the price, let's talk.

Best,
Alan NYC

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gearing for Quickbeam

[Alan Lavine]

Hi Craig,
Thanks for the interesting info.  I’ve had some experience with fixed gear 
riding, just locally and on a much lighter bike.  Having the QB now, with those 
great track dropouts, I thought I should take advantage and make a multi-gear 
fixie.  This would allow me to extend my travels out of the city.

So thinking as you did (great minds and all that) I started with a 39 up front 
and 17/21 dingle in the rear, yielding a 63” high and 51” low.  No FW yet.  As 
the weather warms (40 this AM when I rode) I’ll start going further, into New 
Jersey, where there are hills (no mountains).  And then we’ll see.  I ride 
better when its warm, and will be in better shape in the summer, so I may make 
changes as this experiment progresses.  I also want to be cautious with my 
knees, which are OK now, but there is some history there.

I am incredibly jealous of your weather.

Alan
NYC

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> 
> Craig in Tucson asked me to post this on his behalf as his posts aren’t 
> posting for some reason... 
> 
> Hey Alan, this is Craig (yea...so what?). When it comes to riding fixed, for 
> knowledge, inspiration, and enlightenment, you always start with the English. 
> Single chainring flip-flops were the standard set up for every bike sold, 
> unless you had money, from the 1920's thru the 1940's. And these guys did 
> everything on them (because you could only afford one bike): commuting, club 
> rides, time trials, AND camptouring. From my perusal of bike catalogues from 
> this period I've found that the standard gearing was usually in the mid-upper 
> 60's. Racing (time trials were the only legal racing for years) was usually 
> done on a 72" gear and that was considered a "medium" gear. In fact there's 
> still an association that does "medium gear" time trials in the UK. Any 
> Roughstuffing would usually require a gear in the 50's.
> 
> Dingles are cool but I think, given where you live, you'll find that going 
> thru the greasy hassle of manhandling the bike into a different gear isn't 
> necessary. You'd be surprised at what one can do on a single 65"-67" gear. ( 
> Motel touring the grasslands of southeast Arizona: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/23798789135/in/album-72157622053427539/
>  )
> 
> My fixed tourer ran a 44-41 double up front with a 17-19 fixed double/16-18 
> White Industries freewheel in the back. I don't remember changing gears too 
> often (and that's going from unladen to a camping load). 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/2561917302/I would 
> occasionally flip over to an 18t freewheel if I knew there was a long 
> downhill.   
> 
> For what you're doing I'd start with a mid-60's gear and stay with it for a 
> while. Get some experience (as in months) then take it from there. Why 
> complicate things from the get-go? 
> 
> My dollar's worth.
> 
> Craig in Tucson
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[RBW] Re: Gearing for Quickbeam

[alan lavine]

Appreciate all the input.  I think for now, I'll leave a single up front, 
39 or 40, with the dingle 17/21 in the rear.  Gives a high in the mid 60's 
and low around 50.  Since I don't do mountains, like Deacon, this should be 
OK.  Then we'll see where it leads.

Alan
NYC

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:25:03 PM UTC-4, Mojo wrote:
>
> Hi Alan, Deacon is The Man of course. But here is what I did with my Q 
> gearing: I used 39/45 chainrings with a 17/21 Dingle and a 23T on the flip 
> side of the hub. That gave me 5 useable gears from 46 to 72 inches. Like 
> Minh I most often chose a gear and stayed there for the entire ride.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/album-72157607471577085/
> Since that picture and description my tires have grown to 32 or 35mm width 
> (& thus my gear inches have increased a bit) and I am using freewheels 
> instead of fixed. Fixed is pure and all that; freewheels are...well, free.
>
> Joe in GJT
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 2:06:23 PM UTC-6, alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Changing a few things on a new to me QB, and was wondering how others 
>> have them set up. For the rear I have a 17/21 dingle that I want to use, 
>> but haven't decided about the front. Single or double chainring? 
>> Would love to hear what others have used, and for what purpose, I.e. 
>> around town, touring, climbing, etc.  My use would be mostly around town, 
>> occasional 30-40 mile rides with moderate climbs, but no off road use. 
>>  Maybe CC tours in the future.
>> Also, how often do you actually change the gears? I wonder if I'd be too 
>> lazy to do it often, and just use a geared bike when needed.  So maybe a 
>> single up front and dingle in the rear would suffice.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>> NYC
>>
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[RBW] Gearing for Quickbeam

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
Changing a few things on a new to me QB, and was wondering how others have them 
set up. For the rear I have a 17/21 dingle that I want to use, but haven't 
decided about the front. Single or double chainring? 
Would love to hear what others have used, and for what purpose, I.e. around 
town, touring, climbing, etc.  My use would be mostly around town, occasional 
30-40 mile rides with moderate climbs, but no off road use.  Maybe CC tours in 
the future.
Also, how often do you actually change the gears? I wonder if I'd be too lazy 
to do it often, and just use a geared bike when needed.  So maybe a single up 
front and dingle in the rear would suffice.

Thanks,
Alan
NYC

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam review

[Alan LaVine]

Got it, thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 5:44 AM, <olofst...@gmail.com> <olofst...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Have a good read!
>  
> Olof Stroh
> Uppsala Sweden
>  
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alan lavine
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 1:11 AM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Quickbeam review
>  
> Hi All,
> Jan did a review of the Quickbeam in BQ #12, summer 2005.  I thought I had 
> the complete collection but apparently not.  Anyone know how to access it on 
> the internets?
>  
> Thanks,
> Alan
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[RBW] Quickbeam review

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
Jan did a review of the Quickbeam in BQ #12, summer 2005.  I thought I had 
the complete collection but apparently not.  Anyone know how to access it 
on the internets?

Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam fork question

[Alan Lavine]

Thank you for that info….I’llcheck.
Alan
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:00 PM, Coal Bee Rye Anne  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a spare Simpleone fork with 40mm of threads.  Can’t be certain QB and 
> S1 forks exactly match in that area having come from different factories but 
> I’d assume they are in the same ballpark.  probably worth pulling the fork to 
> measure to be sure.
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[RBW] Quickbeam fork question

[alan lavine]

About how long is the threaded portion of the steerer on a 62 cm QB? Trying to 
raise stem to max without damage.

Thanks,
Alan
NYC 

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[alan lavine]

Hello All,
Interesting thread!  I've been convinced about the benefits of low carbs 
for awhile now, even though compliance is spotty.
I'm very interested in the fasting aspect, and am reading the book 
mentioned in another post about it.  I would love to hear more about 
fasting  from real people doing it: how often, what regimen, how to fit it 
into social and family meals, etc.

I'm not diabetic or overweight. My personal interest is to lower my 
elevated LDL cholesterol.  I'm currently on 2 meds (not statins-can't 
tolerate) and really not having any side effects from them, but would love 
to eliminate them if possible.

Thanks,
Alan NYC-trying to skip breakfast today 

On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 10:52:17 AM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Hi everybody on both sides of the fence and sitting on it, too--
> I wrote the book but am not trying to push it here. I wrote it because I 
> don't LIKE to talk about diet stuff, so it was sort of my one-shot. I'm 
> piping up here (violating "one shot"), but it won't be my usual long post. 
> To keep it short means being direct, which doesn't always come off well, 
> but I'll try for "short and soft," which doesn't sound all that good, 
> either.
>
> EBDJ synthesizes a lot of stuff in a few short, to-the-point chapters. 
>
> The introduction is long, and in it I tell my own history with 
> diet/exercise--which is bound to be different than yours in some ways, but 
> if you're a typical somewhat ageing cyclist who is adding pounds over the 
> years despite riding a fair among, you'll be able to relate.
>
> The average "chapter" is about 300 words, and most adults read close to 
> that per minute. If you aren't up to the whole book, read at least these 
> five numbered entries,which total fewer than 1,700 words and will take you 
> about 8 minutes if you dwell some:
>
> 83: It's about the architecture of digestive systems in the animal world 
> (excludes the internationally known Venus fly trap!)
> 84: Specifically about human guts
> 85: What your guts are good and bad at.
> 91: Diabetes primer. How Type 2 diabetes creeps up on you. This may help 
> your family accept a shift in diet.
> 92: kind of the ABC's of blood sugar testing...a good way to keep an eye 
> on diabetes as it creeps up on you
>
> Whether it's "paleo" or "keto" or "primal" or whatever, the shift is away 
> from foods that jack up your blood sugar and make you fatter, 
> diabetes-prone, and hungry all at the same time. The mainstream media, in 
> addressing this while at the same time trying not to bum out its audience, 
> tends to take a softer-core stance on carbs than I do (surprise!): Where 
> they say, "try to cut back on refined carbohydrates and overly processed 
> junk foods and sugary sodas," I have chapters titled, "All corn is candy 
> corn," and "The Fruit Ruse," and "The Whole Grain Ruse."
>
> Those titles alone will turn off many, but the message in them all is the 
> same. It is to see past a food's commercial image, and see it in terms of 
> its sugar load. 
>
> At Rivendell, every birthday gets celebrated with the person's choice of 
> restaurants, and we take out for all. The most popular one is Indian. I eat 
> the red chicken, I pluck the cauliflower out of the (sp?) alu gobi, and I 
> slurry it around in some of the thick lentil mush, which I love. I don't 
> eat the nan. Others eat it all, some avoid the chicken. It's not as easy 
> when the cook is unaware of your sugarphobia, but if you aren't already 
> diabetic, or "pre-diabetic," a slice of cake won't kill you. Two might, but 
> not one. Not right there at the table, at least. Ha!
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[RBW] Re: Austin Tx cycling and Bobish shops

[alan lavine]

Thank you all for all the suggestions.
Alan

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 10:26:04 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I've been in Brad's shop - it is refreshing compared to many SA shops. 
>  Best thing I can say about Brad, he gave me curb-service wheel truing one 
> day when I had my daughter in s. Austin for 90 minutes with a trainer.  
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 9:00:41 AM UTC-6, sean wrote:
>>
>> This coming week will be a bit insane with SXSW going on. Lots of traffic 
>> and crowds. Plenty of good riding however outside of the downtown circus. 
>> For Bobish shops:
>>
>> The Peddler
>> CycleEast (already mentioned)
>> Eastside Pedal Pushers
>> Bicycle Sport Shop (major dealer, but has some Bobish stuff and cool 
>> mechanics/staff)
>>
>> When in South Austin:
>>
>> BikeAlot (easily the best bike shop in South Austin and Brad is a master 
>> of Rivish/Bobish builds).
>>
>>
>> https://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Transportation/2017_Austin_Bike_Map_-_Side_1.pdf
>>
>> Enjoy Austin.
>>
>> Sean
>> ATX
>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Austin Tx cycling and Bobish shops

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
I'm going to  Austin for a week to escape NE winter and explore a new (to 
me) city.  Would appreciate any recs for riding and/or shops.
Will be there for 6 days.

Thanks,
Alan NYC

Riv content: I'm bringing the fixie frame I built that is set up like QB: 2 
chainrings and 2 cogs.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 Quickbeam and 52tt/50.5st Crust Romanceur

[alan lavine]

Sent a PM but not sure if it went thru...
Alan
NYC

On Friday, March 2, 2018 at 8:11:10 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote:
>
> Quickbeam now on eBay: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/122992024190?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
>
>
> On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 10:23:33 PM UTC-5, Stephen D wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Philip,
>>
>> You're absolutely right - the front brake is an Avid Shorty 4, and the 
>> tape is Brooks bar tape.
>>
>> When I want back to look at my original description, I realized I omitted 
>> an important point -- there is a faint dent in the top tube. We bought the 
>> bike last year, and here is the prior seller's description of the bike, and 
>> his characterization of the dent: 
>>
>>
>> http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4=391772091525=0=10=177831=bicycleservices=1=1=0=false=ebay.com=1=1=1=0
>>
>> We felt that the seller's description of the dent was accurate. It is 
>> tough to see the dent, but you can feel it. I'll take a video tomorrow and 
>> post it in the Flickr album pointing out where the dent is with a pen.
>>
>> Also, I have one other update - I'm afraid the bike does not come with a 
>> dingle cog after all. We went to get the dingle and realized we only had 
>> the lockring for it.
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion! 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 9:32:39 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a really nice Quickbeam. I was fantasizing about buying it as a 
>>> home for the Paul wheels and Avid Ultimates I have, so my existing 60cm 
>>> green Quickbeam could go back to its black kickback and dynamo wheelset, 
>>> and I’d have a fast road dingle Quickbeam to complement it. The only 
>>> problem with that plan is that I’d want to keep your Cutlass wheels, and 
>>> then I’d need to find a new frame all aver again! 
>>>
>>> I like the black brakes. Looks like an Avid Shorty 4 on the front, not a 
>>> Tektro? 
>>> I don’t know if you mentioned the Brooks bar tape, but that’s a good 
>>> detail, too.   
>>>
>>> Philip 
>>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: First Riv/NYC RO

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
It was me (I ?) who organized the meet up a few years ago and I'm 
definitely up for another one.  Problem is, I'm traveling a lot this month 
and March...I am free  this Wednesday 2/21 if that works for some.  We met 
at the beer hall in Greenpoint (name??)
Of course, y'all don't have to wait for me to meet.

Let me know if that works for anyone.

Best,
Alan
NYC

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 11:19:09 PM UTC-5, Jacob wrote:
>
> I've been lurking around here for awhile and became a member when I 
> ordered the bike. Built it up in December and it's such a joy to ride. 
> Thought it was time to get legit and put it up here. There got tons of 
> photos of the unboxing and build process, some close-ups, etc., but here 
> are a few full shots. I realize some of my build choices might arouse 
> suspicion. I love talking about my bike, so please, ask anything.
>
> On a side note: I know some of you are in NYC, and I have noticed a few 
> Rivendell's in the wild out here lately. Probably just a Baader-Meinhof 
> thing, but I was wondering if any of you got together (or if we even 
> should) for a meet up or something like that. My apologies if I've missed a 
> post about this very thing.
>
> Anyway, here it is.
> -Jacob
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring 4-7

[alan lavine]

Deacon,
Tell us about your gloves, please.  For me, that's the worst part of winter 
cleeoi

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:23:22 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I hadn’t realized I hadn’t posted these, so here they are in one go. 
> Running, biking, coffee, pipe, wannabe three-speeding, fog, chill, sun, and 
> wind! Enjoy!
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/coffeeneuring-5-6-and-7
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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Re: [RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

[Alan Lavine]

Any chance we could see a photo?

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:52 PM, Lee Legrand  wrote:
> 
> http://store.somafab.com/sysibar.html 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:31 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  > wrote:
> Alan,
> 
> I have had a bunch of back and wrist surgeries so I am in a similar 
> situation. I am also a weirdo that is ulnar positive, where my ulna is longer 
> than the radius. I have tried every kind of bar looking for comfort and pain 
> relief.  My solution is swept dropped bars, mounted high. I found I need the 
> bottom at the same height as the seat. The lower position is not too low to 
> use as my default position and is where I normally ride, while the hoods and 
> tops offer a 'sit upright and take a break' position. Being able to move my 
> hands around helps prevent the worst of hand numbness and pain. As far as 
> 'flat' bars, I would highly recommend the Sycip Singles Bar. For me on my 
> Atlantis, it is the perfect flat bar. They are wide, have a nice sweep, are 
> absorbent, and reasonably priced. I have tried the Albatross, Moustache, 
> Albastache, and some Ti swept bars, and the Sycip won. 
> 
> Clayton (Bendite)
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[RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

[alan lavine]

Thank you all for your suggestions.  I have arthritis of the hands and 
wrists, and unrelated, several degenerated spinal discs.  These are 
generally not too much of a problem and I can still ride 30-40-50 miles but 
feel the aches and pain after.  Bars higher helps the hands, but too 
upright hurts the back.  So looking for that sweet spot of compromise.

Lee is correct about core strength and my exercise regime is varied and 
includes swimming, Pilates, yoga, stretching.

My opinion about upright position on bikes:  older folks need to avoid 
being too upright, as the road forces get transmitted directly up and down 
the spine.  As we age, the shock absorbing discs get dessecated, shrink, 
and lose that ability to absorb shock. This makes it more likely to 
compress nerve roots as they exit the spine. A gentle arch is much better 
at shock absorption and each of us has to find that position for 
him/herself.

Interesting to note the Grant, in recent years, seems to have moved to more 
upright positions.  Is he not aging as well?

Best,
Alan

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-5, RichS wrote:
>
> Alan, I recently changed out the drops on my Atlantis to Albatross bars. 
> So far it’s been a good move. All pluses and no negatives. 
> 1. Upright position if desired. 
> 2. Multiple hand positions. 
> 3. Option to lean forward. 
>
> I did cut 1.25” from the ends to reduce the amount the bars come back. Now 
> contemplating making the same change on my Hillborne. 
>
> Regards, 
> Richard

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[RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

[alan lavine]

Thanks for the info, Evan.  I was hoping to see that photo because they all 
have slightly different shapes, even though similar.

Curious about how many others are slowly moving away from drop bars, as I 
am.  For me, its definitely an aging/arthritis/flexibilty issue.  But I 
find that too upright makes my back hurt, as the vertical forces are 
transmitted straight up and down the spine.  Finding that Goldilocks spot 
is a challenge...been through many cockpits last few years!

Alan
NYC

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:16:01 PM UTC-5, Doug H. wrote:
>
> I just replaced drop bars on my Trek 520 with Rivendell’s Albastache and a 
> Nitto Dirt Drop Stem. It feels like a new bike. Upright but with several 
> hand positions. 

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[RBW] Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
Looking to replace drop bars with something upright, such as jitensha, MAP, 
postino, vo porter, etc.

Awhile back there was a composite photo of several such bars posted, I 
think, by Ron Mc.  Can anyone find it and re-post?

Thanks,
Alan
NYC

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Sam Hillborne complete, a 54cm Rambouillet complete, and a 60cm Saluki frame/fork, w XTR/Schmidt dynamo 650b wheelset, & GB fenders

[alan lavine]

Hi  Shawn,
PM sent.

Alan
NYC

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 2:28:19 AM UTC-5, Shwangnle wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm Shawn and its time to start selling some of my Rivendell bicycles, 
> bags, clothing, racks, and ephemera. 
>
> My sale starts here with these three lightly ridden bicycles: the full 
> specifications are available at the photo descriptions. 
>
> 60cm Saluki - 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33551746@N03/albums/72157658218913790   
> 54cm Rambouillet - 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33551746@N03/albums/72157658611636742
> 60cm Sam Hillbourne - 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33551746@N03/albums/72157685177639484
>
> All are in excellent condition with minimal signs of wear. You should be 
> able to see nearly everything in my photo albums, however, if you have any 
> specific questions feel free to ask either in the forum or in a private 
> message. All will be (are, to be specific) professionally packaged and 
> shipped via Bikeflights fully insured with a flat fee of $150 in the 
> continental US. 
>
> Pricing is as follows. Saluki $1800.  Rambouillet $1500.  Sam H. $1400.
>
> Thanks for looking and happy Thanksgiving to you and yours,
> Shawn
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

[Alan LaVine,]

In my experience, there is a kernel of truth in most stereotypes. When the same 
anecdotal observation is repeated over and over, it turns into a stereotype.  
Which means it happens commonly but not always.

Alan
NYC and frequent rider in NJ.

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> On Oct 13, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Lee Legrand <krm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I rescinded my last comment since it sounds rude but NJ drivers are not like 
> every driver in the 50 states no more than NJ/ NYC residence are like every 
> other resident in the fifty states.  Some states spring different people 
> based on the environment there.  I do think NJ/NYC residence are more 
> aggressive and can be course than say CA,WA or Oregon residence. All due the 
> environment which one is from and what people pick up from the environment as 
> norm.  So a person can do something that is normal but be wrong in doing so 
> because so many do it as well.  When it comes to driving, I think this is the 
> case.  I cant speak for other states but driving in NJ and speaking to people 
> in NJ which I am familiar with more, there is an aggressiveness and yes, this 
> does not mean everyone and I doubt it is just a few but a moderate size.  The 
> more you move away from the populus area of the north, the more I think you 
> wont see it as much. This is my last comment because this post is not about 
> NJ but a John Rivendell Atlantis.
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Lee Legrand <krm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is not a particular person or thing.  New Jersey drivers are pretty bad. 
>> Not all but if you live in upper NJ driving down many main roads, you will 
>> find it the case.  I have never heard of anyone complain about any state 
>> drivers unlike NJ drivers.  These are facts people who live in upper NJ will 
>> complain will tell you.  Part of the reason for this is because the state is 
>> very congested and main roads can become pretty crowded to the point of a 
>> parking lot.  30 minute drives turn into hour or more during the week.  
>> Summer is pretty bad since many people are going to the shore.  As a person 
>> who has lived here all my life, I pretty much try to stay off of the road.  
>> I do not know if you live in the state or not but if you do not, you do not 
>> know what you are talking about.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:41 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, Lee, actually what you wrote is the definition of "stereotype": a 
>>> widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type 
>>> of person or thing.
>>> 
>>> There are nutballs behind the wheel or on wheels in all fifty States and 
>>> many other places around the world. There are also many responsible drivers 
>>> and cyclists in New Jersey and elsewhere. There are lots of people in 
>>> between these two poles. Some people living in cities are hostile. Many are 
>>> not. Some people who own Rivendells only wear wool underwear. Many do not. 
>>> Etc.etc. etc.
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 7:18:03 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote:
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> 
>>>> I live in NJ and in the north.  It is not a stereotype, unfortunately. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:04 PM, John Hawrylak <john.h...@verizon.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I live in far southern NJ, very rural.  Although the northern people may 
>>>>> be tougher, the driving up in the Newark area is not much differnet than 
>>>>> in Philly or any major city.  I would be careful about too many 
>>>>> stereotypes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>>> Woodstown NJ 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 10:46:23 AM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote:
>>>>>> Its New Jersey Alan. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Home of the worst drivers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:41 AM, alan lavine <ciga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>> Are you referring to "River Road" that runs through Palisades 
>>>>>>> Interstate Park?  We ride there all the time, and the riders heading 
>>>>>>> south reach very fast speeds, because they can.  I said to my wife just 
>>>>>>> the other day that when riding in the city, the other cyclists have 
>>>>>>> become more dangerous than the cars. Especially in Jersey.  Especially 
>

[RBW] Re: Wrecked my Atlantis

[alan lavine]

John,
Are you referring to "River Road" that runs through Palisades Interstate 
Park?  We ride there all the time, and the riders heading south reach very 
fast speeds, because they can.  I said to my wife just the other day that 
when riding in the city, the other cyclists have become more dangerous than 
the cars. Especially in Jersey.  Especially when crossing the GW bridge. 
 Its just nuts.

Glad you are OK, but it'll be rough getting out of bed tomorrow.  My best..

Alan
NYC

On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 7:30:11 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>
> Yesterday, at 5:30 in the morning, I collided head-on with another 
> cyclist. I was on a path along the Hudson river on the Jersey side, and the 
> guy had no lights.  And I went over the bars. 
>
>  Thankfully, I'm all right, but my Atlantis is pretty messed up,  and I'd 
> like to get the lists advice . The fork is badly bent, and my local shop 
> thinks that the Head tube maybe messed up. They're stripping  it down and 
> sending it to Bilenky to see if it can be realigned. Do any of you think 
> that's a bad move?
>
>  I don't want to think about how much worse it would've been if I had been 
> riding a carbon bike.  I'm pretty bummed. The worst part is that the other 
> guy swore at me and threw my water bottle at me while I was lying on the 
> ground.  Called me some names I won't repeat here, and rode off before I 
> was even able to get up.   Sometimes I really hate riding around here.
>
> Anyway, be safe out there and hug your Rivendells tonight!
>
>

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