[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
late to the party but in a fairly recent blug Dave mantioned that Atlanti, Hunqs ,and HH's wait times were almost longer than customs. I suspect the fact that True Temper is no longer manufacturing frame tubing is a contributing factor and Riv/Waterford is sourcing frame tubing elsewhere...offhand I can't think of another US frame tube manufacturer, but someone on this list may know otherwise I guess if you want something you gotta jump on it A. Homer Hilsen, Atlantis, Hunqapillar Due to raw materials shortage and painfully long lead times we have to announce 8-month waits on these. That’s longer than customs, but hopefully will speed up soon. On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 11:50:51 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > This is good general advice about any Rivbike these days. The domestic > frames tend to hold steady as available if you wait long enough, but that > wait seems to be getting longer. The Taiwan models are available on the > spot once released as 'for sale', but they all qualify as limited runs of > one length or another. It's wise to jump on the one you want when it's > there if you're really invested in the idea..more so if you like a specific > color. Don't doddle! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
The more substantial changes in the Clems are the now-straight seat stays and the smaller seat tube. The originals also had the "speed-blend nipples." A little surprised it comes with 9-speed. I just could not get the SunRace shifters to work for me, switched them out for stem shifters. Enjoy your new machine, love that acid green color! On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 12:47:31 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I got my Cheviot-green 52 CLEM L (complete) today; a couple of interesting > notes: It uses a 9-speed drivetrain instead of 8 from the first run, and > the SunRace upside-down-backwards friction shifters are the higher-level > series with a click or friction option on the left-supposed-to-be-right > shifter. If you want to go full click on the rear you can rearrange the > shifters to outside the bar. Also, the spoke nipples are several colors for > a neat Speedblend effect (does anyone remember Speedblend tires?) > > I'll get pics tomorrow when I've installed saddle, fenders and rack and > get outside. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
I got my Cheviot-green 52 CLEM L (complete) today; a couple of interesting notes: It uses a 9-speed drivetrain instead of 8 from the first run, and the SunRace upside-down-backwards friction shifters are the higher-level series with a click or friction option on the left-supposed-to-be-right shifter. If you want to go full click on the rear you can rearrange the shifters to outside the bar. Also, the spoke nipples are several colors for a neat Speedblend effect (does anyone remember Speedblend tires?) I'll get pics tomorrow when I've installed saddle, fenders and rack and get outside. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
I've been waiting for someone to mention this. I scanned the newsletter 3 times to find more information on the Clem based on the title and nothing was detailed on it. I assumed that another communication would be forthcoming to discuss the topic but nothing to date has been brought up about it. On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 10:09:04 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: > > Regarding "not getting one yet, and keeping it on the radar": The subject > line of the recent newsletter said "last of the Clems," but then never > elaborated in the newsletter itself. If you think you want one, I'm > thinking it might be good to do so sooner than later, or at least ask riv > what the future plans are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
I'm more than a little tempted to scoop one up. Even with the wheelset, it would be a relatively gentle introduction to the world of Riv. I've just got to see how a few things work out. Thanks again, y'all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
Correction .,,, that's "any ways" ! Sheeesh ☺it sure would be nice if we could simply edit these things, I mean hey, are we using typewriters or is what ? Ahahahahaha ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
The Clem H is not being discontinued or anything like that since it seems to be popular for them ! Only Riv knows why they do not state on the sale page that new models and colors are coming in October, which is clearly stated in the Blug. It seems different people may be updating each each or it was overlooked or maybe something else altogether. And ways .Fear not and beathe freely ! Dated July 18, 2017: "Clem H Those are coming in October too. New colors. We’ll announce that soon" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
Good decision. I am 5'10" with a saddle height of 73.5 or so, depending. My 52cm Clementine is a perfect fit. The 59 is a BIG bike. I know what you mean about having a wheelset on hand, but I would not let that be the driver here. Get one this moment !;^) On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-4, wesleya wrote: > > Well, thanks everybody. I think I'd sleep better at night with the 52 (I > can share it, I can shrink and still ride it, etc.). I don't think I'll get > one just this moment, but I'll keep it on my radar. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
This is good general advice about any Rivbike these days. The domestic frames tend to hold steady as available if you wait long enough, but that wait seems to be getting longer. The Taiwan models are available on the spot once released as 'for sale', but they all qualify as limited runs of one length or another. It's wise to jump on the one you want when it's there if you're really invested in the idea..more so if you like a specific color. Don't doddle! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
Regarding "not getting one yet, and keeping it on the radar": The subject line of the recent newsletter said "last of the Clems," but then never elaborated in the newsletter itself. If you think you want one, I'm thinking it might be good to do so sooner than later, or at least ask riv what the future plans are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
That's a good choice ! If it doesn't feel right, save your cash for another day or bike or whatever. Neither size may really suit you in a Clem. 7 cm. is just too much of a difference, even 4 is large. The one size fits many approach so reminds me of mainstream big brand bike sales which has been going since I first bought a bike in the 70's. A few sizes for a given bike, estimated to fit riders from 4'10" to 6'8". Imagine if pants came in 3 sizes only, oh the chaos ! In gest ☺ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
Well, thanks everybody. I think I'd sleep better at night with the 52 (I can share it, I can shrink and still ride it, etc.). I don't think I'll get one just this moment, but I'll keep it on my radar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
Hmm, I'm going from a 45 to 52 and still will have a little more than a fistful of post showing. I'd be leary of a frame with the saddle slammed like your pic shows. I would get confirmed seatpost-to-headtube numbers and make sure you get a length that works with an Albatross. Keep in mind that you'll have more room with that bar: if you buy a 52 complete you may need to swap the Boscos out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
One other thing to consider, is there a possibility you will share this bike with anyone or have guests who could use it? Since step through frames offer a lot of flexibility in sizing you may add that into your decision making process. If people shorter than you might use the bike then it adds to the versatility if you go with the smaller bike. If you may l Ian it to a taller person then perhaps the larger size might be a better option. I test road a few Mixtes at Riv and two sizes would fit but the smaller one felt a little cramped, not a lot but the larger bike felt better. Ray Vallejo CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
I called, and so far two folks have agreed a 59 would work, but it probably would have the seat pretty much all the way down. It's a bummer that I'd have to spring for the wheels for the 52, but it's not such a big deal. It's more important that it fits! Anyway, how do you measure effective top tube length? Is it center of the seat post to the center of the head tube? On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 1:07:38 PM UTC-5, Davey Two Shoes wrote: > > I'm 5'10 with 83 pbh. I went 52 with the lugged nitto seatpost all the way > back. I like it. > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:54:22 PM UTC-4, wesleya wrote: >> >> I'm on the fence. I can build up a 59 Clem L, but for a 52 I'd need to >> spring for the wheels. I'm 5' 10", 84 stand over, so I'm close. Can anyone >> point me in the right direction? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
Also, I'd be running Albatross bars unless I opt for the complete (a possibility for sure with the 52, as my parts are nothing too special, an older Acera groupset). On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 1:07:38 PM UTC-5, Davey Two Shoes wrote: > > I'm 5'10 with 83 pbh. I went 52 with the lugged nitto seatpost all the way > back. I like it. > > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:54:22 PM UTC-4, wesleya wrote: >> >> I'm on the fence. I can build up a 59 Clem L, but for a 52 I'd need to >> spring for the wheels. I'm 5' 10", 84 stand over, so I'm close. Can anyone >> point me in the right direction? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
Here's a picture of the 59 at what would be my saddle height. It does give me pause being so low. https://ibb.co/bMuh9v I do appreciate the advice. The top tube length is a bit tricky to compare. My brother's 54 Surly LHT clocks in at 55.5, and I could do more but 64 might be pushing it with my Albatross bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
Garth, I have a silver Jones Loop (710) that I'm going to try. I have an 80mm stem on hand with a 31.8 collar to take the Jones, and I think the fit will be good. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
I'm in a similar place Jay, put my name in for the 64 -L. ,and waiting on final dimensions for a decision. No bosco for me either, I'm 6'3" and a 59 wouldn't work for me in front-center, I need it longer. I don't need the 64cm seat tube height either, but I would still have a fistfull of post I suppose. I wish the Alba came in 56 and 58 too. I have 2 56 steel Alba's and the 55's curve is different from the 56, no thanks. A wider steel would be great. Enough of this 55 nonsense ! I recall when the Alba was sold in 55 and 56 GP wrote that even his daughter rode the 56, but now the 55 is supposedly alright for us adults ? Odd. There is a 56cm reach back steel bar sold by Blue Lug I may consider, the B356. The "pneubar" that Riv is working on is unknown as of yet, but hopefully it will be 56 or wider and steel. A Surly Open bar is also up for consideration, but that depends on the overall reach of the 64 ! I already have a 60 Bombadil, which has the longest reach of any stock Riv made for it's size, so I'd want no less. On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 4:00:37 PM UTC-4, Jay Connolly wrote: > > 6'5" -- I'll still be using an upright bar, but nothing as extreme as the > Bosco. I'll make my final decision when I see the geo numbers for the 64. > > Jay > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
I'm 5'10 with 83 pbh. I went 52 with the lugged nitto seatpost all the way back. I like it. On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:54:22 PM UTC-4, wesleya wrote: > > I'm on the fence. I can build up a 59 Clem L, but for a 52 I'd need to > spring for the wheels. I'm 5' 10", 84 stand over, so I'm close. Can anyone > point me in the right direction? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L
I'm 5'-8" w/ 87.5cm pbhand I would just get the 59cm, especially if it's the L. i have a 60cm cheviot and it's good On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 5:54:22 PM UTC-7, wesleya wrote: > > I'm on the fence. I can build up a 59 Clem L, but for a 52 I'd need to > spring for the wheels. I'm 5' 10", 84 stand over, so I'm close. Can anyone > point me in the right direction? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
