Re: [RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-23 Thread James Warren

This one is making its way onto all my bikes. By far my favorite. Check out the 
built-in saddlebag loops:

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=57843


(If Bridgestone and Rivendell hadn't caught my attention decades ago, I'd 
probably be a spaz for Specialized.)


On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Bill M. wrote:

 I've tried a couple of WTB saddles (Vigo and Pure V), and while
 they're OK, neither completely got rid of my soft tissue discomfort.
 
 Two that do work for me are a Specialized Alias on my go-fast, and the
 wider Terry Liberator Y Gelissimo. For a B17 replacement, I'd
 recommend the Terry.  its gel layer is firm enough to not feel
 squishy, and the cutout is well placed to relieve the pressure that
 causes me pain.
 
 BTW, I have slotted a B17 and a Flyer, and that does help.  My
 process:  Start with a 1/2 drill to enlarge the existing vent holes,
 drill more holes in between and (for my anatomy) one more hole forward
 of the forward hole, then trim out the waste with a razor knife.  A
 sharp vegetable peeler works well as a skiver to smooth and shape the
 edge of the cutout.  Ride it, see where you still have contact with
 the edges, and trim to suit.  If you reach underneath and give
 yourself a poke, you may be amazed at how much flesh extends through
 the hole - all that was getting crushed before   You might want to
 wait until the neighbors aren't looking to try that.  Burnish the raw
 cut edge with some Proofide and the round shaft of a screwdriver.  If
 the saddle wants to sag too much, drill a few holes along the bottom
 edge and lace it up with a leather shoelace.
 
 Bill
 
 On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hey there,
 
 I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
 worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
 adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
 simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
 good w/ my Atlantis.
 
 Thanks so much!
 
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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-23 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Admittedly I have a bit of a Brooks dependency, but despite having a
strong opinion on this topic, I speak the truth.  Since I've been
riding Brooks B17s on my road and mountain bikes, all my comfort
problems have vanished.  I no longer even ride with padded shorts
(thank God)... In fact, my new favorite riding shorts are big, baggy
cotton camo shorts (by WonderWall) that I picked up for $3 at the
Goodwill store in Healdsburg...  A. Because they're so comfortable on
a leather saddle and have huge pockets, and B. because the tag reads
Dedicated to those who don't allow the truth to interfere with a good
story... (which I think IS funny, but I AM still telling the truth
here).

Peace,
BB



On Nov 23, 8:57 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 This one is making its way onto all my bikes. By far my favorite. Check out 
 the built-in saddlebag loops:

 http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=57843

 (If Bridgestone and Rivendell hadn't caught my attention decades ago, I'd 
 probably be a spaz for Specialized.)

 On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Bill M. wrote:



  I've tried a couple of WTB saddles (Vigo and Pure V), and while
  they're OK, neither completely got rid of my soft tissue discomfort.

  Two that do work for me are a Specialized Alias on my go-fast, and the
  wider Terry Liberator Y Gelissimo. For a B17 replacement, I'd
  recommend the Terry.  its gel layer is firm enough to not feel
  squishy, and the cutout is well placed to relieve the pressure that
  causes me pain.

  BTW, I have slotted a B17 and a Flyer, and that does help.  My
  process:  Start with a 1/2 drill to enlarge the existing vent holes,
  drill more holes in between and (for my anatomy) one more hole forward
  of the forward hole, then trim out the waste with a razor knife.  A
  sharp vegetable peeler works well as a skiver to smooth and shape the
  edge of the cutout.  Ride it, see where you still have contact with
  the edges, and trim to suit.  If you reach underneath and give
  yourself a poke, you may be amazed at how much flesh extends through
  the hole - all that was getting crushed before   You might want to
  wait until the neighbors aren't looking to try that.  Burnish the raw
  cut edge with some Proofide and the round shaft of a screwdriver.  If
  the saddle wants to sag too much, drill a few holes along the bottom
  edge and lace it up with a leather shoelace.

  Bill

  On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
  Hey there,

  I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
  worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
  adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
  simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
  good w/ my Atlantis.

  Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Pesce
Advice will only go so far. There's just nothing, not shoes, not
underwear, nothing, that's as personal and unique as saddle fit. One
man's easy chair is another man's fence post!
If you can find a shop that has the WTB Test Ride program that Jim
Thill mentioned above, give that a try. Also, some LBS's sell take-
off saddles at a discount, so you can try a few without breaking the
bank.
It's a worthwhile investment that will pay off every mile you ride
once you get it right.

On Nov 23, 10:19 am, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Admittedly I have a bit of a Brooks dependency, but despite having a
 strong opinion on this topic, I speak the truth.  Since I've been
 riding Brooks B17s on my road and mountain bikes, all my comfort
 problems have vanished.  I no longer even ride with padded shorts
 (thank God)... In fact, my new favorite riding shorts are big, baggy
 cotton camo shorts (by WonderWall) that I picked up for $3 at the
 Goodwill store in Healdsburg...  A. Because they're so comfortable on
 a leather saddle and have huge pockets, and B. because the tag reads
 Dedicated to those who don't allow the truth to interfere with a good
 story... (which I think IS funny, but I AM still telling the truth
 here).

 Peace,
 BB

 On Nov 23, 8:57 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:

  This one is making its way onto all my bikes. By far my favorite. Check out 
  the built-in saddlebag loops:

 http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=57843

  (If Bridgestone and Rivendell hadn't caught my attention decades ago, I'd 
  probably be a spaz for Specialized.)

  On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Bill M. wrote:

   I've tried a couple of WTB saddles (Vigo and Pure V), and while
   they're OK, neither completely got rid of my soft tissue discomfort.

   Two that do work for me are a Specialized Alias on my go-fast, and the
   wider Terry Liberator Y Gelissimo. For a B17 replacement, I'd
   recommend the Terry.  its gel layer is firm enough to not feel
   squishy, and the cutout is well placed to relieve the pressure that
   causes me pain.

   BTW, I have slotted a B17 and a Flyer, and that does help.  My
   process:  Start with a 1/2 drill to enlarge the existing vent holes,
   drill more holes in between and (for my anatomy) one more hole forward
   of the forward hole, then trim out the waste with a razor knife.  A
   sharp vegetable peeler works well as a skiver to smooth and shape the
   edge of the cutout.  Ride it, see where you still have contact with
   the edges, and trim to suit.  If you reach underneath and give
   yourself a poke, you may be amazed at how much flesh extends through
   the hole - all that was getting crushed before   You might want to
   wait until the neighbors aren't looking to try that.  Burnish the raw
   cut edge with some Proofide and the round shaft of a screwdriver.  If
   the saddle wants to sag too much, drill a few holes along the bottom
   edge and lace it up with a leather shoelace.

   Bill

   On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
   Hey there,

   I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
   worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
   adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
   simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
   good w/ my Atlantis.

   Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-23 Thread bfd
Yeah, I know what you guys mean! I love Avocet O2 saddles and have
about 1/2 dozen in various conditions. I plan to try a saddle recover
service like this one when mine start wearing out:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2066484291.html

$30 isn't too bad a price to recover a saddle. The guy definitely
looks like he knows what to do! Good Luck!

On Nov 22, 9:01 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have two of the so called men's Ti O2 as my go fast saddle
 inventory.  I know what you mean about reluctance to share your
 secrets.

 On Nov 22, 8:54 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I have found the long-discontinued Avocet O2 women's saddle works
  great for my offroad bike. It has a flat back and a mid-profile dip
  like the B17. It is a bit wider and shorter than the B17 but works
  well for my butt. For reference, I am 6ft, 195lbs, 34 inch waisted
  pants.

  I hesitated to mention this one, as I am looking for a second one for
  backup, and I don't to bid against all of you on ebay!
  Along that same line, anyone have a Women's O2 saddle they want to
  sell. Steel or Ti would be great.

  On Nov 22, 8:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:

   Hey there,

   I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
   worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
   adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
   simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
   good w/ my Atlantis.

   Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-23 Thread RonaTD
My problem with WTB saddles is the back is too flat (side to side),
giving that sensation of it being too wide between the legs.

The saddle I've recently discovered, thanks to Sean at Rawland, is the
Afton Classic from Dimension. You can have your local LBS order one
from QBP, or find a place on the net. It's the closest shape I've
found to a B17. It doesn't have a slot, but a slight depression, which
suits me fine.  A little wide in the nose, but not enough to be a
problem. Very reasonable price and weight. I haven't had any long
enough to test the durability, yet. Available in black, white, and
what Sean described as baby poo brown.

Ted Durant

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread JGS
I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough.  I think
part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I
mostly ride as a commuter.  When I ride more for sport and can shift
my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it
should be.

I've always wanted to try a selle anatomica but given that I lock my
bike up in NYC all the time, I don't think I can bring myself to put a
$175 saddle on the bike.

Anyone have experience with the Serfas RX saddles?

On Nov 22, 10:11 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose 
 tipped
 up?

 
 From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM
 Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

 Hey there,

 I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
 worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
 adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
 simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
 good w/ my Atlantis.

 Thanks so much!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread cyclotourist
Really like the WTB Devo/Deva.  Only difference is screen printing AFAIK.
Plus the added benefit of titanium rails, so you'll be faster, better
rested, and undoubtedly smell better.

http://www.wtb.com/products/saddles/racing/devo/


On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:17 AM, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:

 I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough.  I think
 part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I
 mostly ride as a commuter.  When I ride more for sport and can shift
 my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it
 should be.

 I've always wanted to try a selle anatomica but given that I lock my
 bike up in NYC all the time, I don't think I can bring myself to put a
 $175 saddle on the bike.

 Anyone have experience with the Serfas RX saddles?

 On Nov 22, 10:11 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose
 tipped
  up?
 
  
  From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com
  To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM
  Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
 
  Hey there,
 
  I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
  worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
  adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
  simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
  good w/ my Atlantis.
 
  Thanks so much!
 
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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Peter Pesce
Not sure I'd want to leave a Brooks outside in NYC either!

I've heard good things about WTB saddles - and they make a pretty wide
variety, so finding a good fit should be possible.
Many of them come in a simple black design, which would look ok. Some
other designs are too flashy for my tastes.

I haven't tried them myself, but I'm seriously considering it if it
can't get my Brooks to work for me pretty soon!

-Pete

On Nov 22, 10:17 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough.  I think
 part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I
 mostly ride as a commuter.  When I ride more for sport and can shift
 my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it
 should be.

 I've always wanted to try a selle anatomica but given that I lock my
 bike up in NYC all the time, I don't think I can bring myself to put a
 $175 saddle on the bike.

 Anyone have experience with the Serfas RX saddles?

 On Nov 22, 10:11 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose 
  tipped
  up?

  
  From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com
  To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM
  Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

  Hey there,

  I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
  worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
  adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
  simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
  good w/ my Atlantis.

  Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Forrest
I've had good luck with some Specialized Body Geometry saddles --
Avatar Gel for sport (comes in different widths), and the Milano (also
comes in a gel version) for commuting/upright riding.  -- Forrest
(Iowa City)


On Nov 22, 9:41 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not sure I'd want to leave a Brooks outside in NYC either!

 I've heard good things about WTB saddles - and they make a pretty wide
 variety, so finding a good fit should be possible.
 Many of them come in a simple black design, which would look ok. Some
 other designs are too flashy for my tastes.

 I haven't tried them myself, but I'm seriously considering it if it
 can't get my Brooks to work for me pretty soon!

 -Pete

 On Nov 22, 10:17 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:

  I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough.  I think
  part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I
  mostly ride as a commuter.  When I ride more for sport and can shift
  my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it
  should be.

  I've always wanted to try a selle anatomica but given that I lock my
  bike up in NYC all the time, I don't think I can bring myself to put a
  $175 saddle on the bike.

  Anyone have experience with the Serfas RX saddles?

  On Nov 22, 10:11 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose 
   tipped
   up?

   
   From: JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com
   To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM
   Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

   Hey there,

   I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
   worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
   adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
   simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
   good w/ my Atlantis.

   Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Some shops may have the WTB Test Ride Program, which is basically a
collection of specially-marked and loaner saddles that you can try
before you buy. We have sold a lot of WTB saddles this way. The two
most popular are the Rocket (narrow-ish) and the Pure (wider, similar
dimensions to a B17). All the WTB saddles have a channel or a slot of
some kind.

On Nov 22, 9:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hey there,

 I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
 worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
 adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
 simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
 good w/ my Atlantis.

 Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Bill Lucas
I have just spent a bit of time on WTB Pure V.  It was very
comfortable and cheap.  The problem with it is that waist” is wide.
The saddle always felt big between my legs.  I looked at other WTB
saddles and the wide mid section seems to be part of the design.
Still, it is worth a try.  If a Brooks didn’t feel wide, then I don’t
thing that it will be an issue.
I ended up on a Selle San Marco Rolls.

Bill
On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hey there,

 I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
 worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
 adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
 simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
 good w/ my Atlantis.

 Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread LBleriot
What about a B17 Imperial.  You get to stay with the Brooks and you
get the slot.  I find the Imperial comfortable right out of the box.

On Nov 22, 10:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hey there,

 I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
 worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
 adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
 simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
 good w/ my Atlantis.

 Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Michael_S
My preference is the WTB Pure V saddle as an alternate to Brooks. The
all leather Team version is very comfortable to sit in and has a
middle channel to minimize pressure under there.  Another is the Selle
Italia Flite Max, both are farily wide, but not as wide as the B17 .

~Mike~



On Nov 22, 8:49 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 Some shops may have the WTB Test Ride Program, which is basically a
 collection of specially-marked and loaner saddles that you can try
 before you buy. We have sold a lot of WTB saddles this way. The two
 most popular are the Rocket (narrow-ish) and the Pure (wider, similar
 dimensions to a B17). All the WTB saddles have a channel or a slot of
 some kind.

 On Nov 22, 9:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:



  Hey there,

  I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
  worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
  adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
  simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
  good w/ my Atlantis.

  Thanks so much!- Hide quoted text -

 - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Jeremy Till
Another suggestion for WTB saddles.  I just put a Speed V (their
cheapest saddle) from a town bike i sold on my road bike and
discovered that it's quite comfortable for long rides.  No pressure on
the nether regions.

I've never ridden a Brooks for anything more than a hundred yards or
so I can't compare.

On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hey there,

 I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
 worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
 adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
 simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
 good w/ my Atlantis.

 Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Travis
The most comfortable non-Brooks (style saddle) I own is a Specialized
Romin. It's one of the few cut-out saddles I've tried which actually
seem to succeed in relieving pressure. Also, the Romin comes in
various widths, and if you go to a Specialized dealer you can ask to
be measured on the ass-o-meter to determine which width you need. I
got mine new on ebay for $70-something.

I can ride my Brooks without padded bib-shorts (once they are broken
in, it's better that way as I'm sure you know), but I don't ride
synthetic saddles with-out. They're really meant to be used in
conjunction with padded shorts. They ones that are not have way too
much cushion and cause other problems. That being said, my Romin
saddle with shorts is actually more comfortable than my Brooks with or
with-out them - I bet you can accustom an un-padded butt to feel the
same. I should mention, I use this saddle on my race bike, which has a
very aggressive saddle to handlebar drop - and being a racing saddle
that is what it is designed for. Maybe, you'll hate it in an upright
position, but they are may be some other Specialized saddles which
would work better, but still come in reasonable widths.

Another thought, I feel that many people go way overboard with the
uptilted angle on their Brooks. A one degree angle is enough to keep
you from sliding forward, much more is counter productive.

On Nov 22, 1:42 pm, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another suggestion for WTB saddles.  I just put a Speed V (their
 cheapest saddle) from a town bike i sold on my road bike and
 discovered that it's quite comfortable for long rides.  No pressure on
 the nether regions.

 I've never ridden a Brooks for anything more than a hundred yards or
 so I can't compare.

 On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:

  Hey there,

  I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
  worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
  adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
  simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
  good w/ my Atlantis.

  Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread james
I can't believe nobody has suggested just cutting out a hole in the
brooks saddle.  Isn't that what Grant would say and did say in one of
those recent readers?  a knife, courage and a hole my friend!

james

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Minh
Another vote from me for WTB, it's the closest i've found to the
Brooks for me.

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread EricP
WTB Laser V works for me.  Been riding using that on the Fargo off and
on for the past couple of months.

Otherwise, I'll be the lone voice and advocate Terry saddles.  Have a
couple of them and rotate them in and out.

Have to admit to a love/hate relationship this year with Brooks
saddles.  Love the look, but they have been terribly uncomfortable
most the last half of the year.  Tendency to put most of the weight on
the rear rail being a big factor.  Shall one say it became a sore
issue?

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Nov 22, 1:08 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another vote from me for WTB, it's the closest i've found to the
 Brooks for me.

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Bill M.
I've tried a couple of WTB saddles (Vigo and Pure V), and while
they're OK, neither completely got rid of my soft tissue discomfort.

Two that do work for me are a Specialized Alias on my go-fast, and the
wider Terry Liberator Y Gelissimo. For a B17 replacement, I'd
recommend the Terry.  its gel layer is firm enough to not feel
squishy, and the cutout is well placed to relieve the pressure that
causes me pain.

BTW, I have slotted a B17 and a Flyer, and that does help.  My
process:  Start with a 1/2 drill to enlarge the existing vent holes,
drill more holes in between and (for my anatomy) one more hole forward
of the forward hole, then trim out the waste with a razor knife.  A
sharp vegetable peeler works well as a skiver to smooth and shape the
edge of the cutout.  Ride it, see where you still have contact with
the edges, and trim to suit.  If you reach underneath and give
yourself a poke, you may be amazed at how much flesh extends through
the hole - all that was getting crushed before   You might want to
wait until the neighbors aren't looking to try that.  Burnish the raw
cut edge with some Proofide and the round shaft of a screwdriver.  If
the saddle wants to sag too much, drill a few holes along the bottom
edge and lace it up with a leather shoelace.

Bill

On Nov 22, 7:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hey there,

 I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
 worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
 adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
 simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
 good w/ my Atlantis.

 Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread Mojo
I have found the long-discontinued Avocet O2 women's saddle works
great for my offroad bike. It has a flat back and a mid-profile dip
like the B17. It is a bit wider and shorter than the B17 but works
well for my butt. For reference, I am 6ft, 195lbs, 34 inch waisted
pants.

I hesitated to mention this one, as I am looking for a second one for
backup, and I don't to bid against all of you on ebay!
Along that same line, anyone have a Women's O2 saddle they want to
sell. Steel or Ti would be great.


On Nov 22, 8:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hey there,

 I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
 worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
 adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
 simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
 good w/ my Atlantis.

 Thanks so much!

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[RBW] Re: Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.

2010-11-22 Thread William
I have two of the so called men's Ti O2 as my go fast saddle
inventory.  I know what you mean about reluctance to share your
secrets.

On Nov 22, 8:54 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I have found the long-discontinued Avocet O2 women's saddle works
 great for my offroad bike. It has a flat back and a mid-profile dip
 like the B17. It is a bit wider and shorter than the B17 but works
 well for my butt. For reference, I am 6ft, 195lbs, 34 inch waisted
 pants.

 I hesitated to mention this one, as I am looking for a second one for
 backup, and I don't to bid against all of you on ebay!
 Along that same line, anyone have a Women's O2 saddle they want to
 sell. Steel or Ti would be great.

 On Nov 22, 8:02 am, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:

  Hey there,

  I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
  worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts.  I've try
  adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
  simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
  good w/ my Atlantis.

  Thanks so much!

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