Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two-Tone Sequential Coding Standard

2005-12-04 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bob,

Well, I guess the Rosetta Stone document is not as valuable as I had
hoped.  I went through it carefully, but found no statement of tone
tolerance.  However, I can infer from the printed frequencies- which are
specified to 1/10 Hz- that the tolerance is +/- 0.1 Hz or better.  That
jibes with your assumption of well under one percent.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

"Bob M." wrote:

> I think all we wanted to find out was the frequency tolerance. Is that
> in the document? The general consensus seemed to be well under 1
> percent, just based on the odd frequencies in use.
>
> Bob M.
> ==
> --- Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > A week ago, there was an exchange of postings
> > regarding the
> > specifications of the two-tone sequential paging
> > format.  After some
> > searching of my Motorola archives, I found a
> > document which I believe is
> > the "Rosetta Stone" we seek.
> >
> > It is Motorola Publication 6881103C80, entitled
> > "Two-Tone Sequential
> > Tone Coding."  This seven-page document includes the
> > timing and
> > deviation specifications, along with charts listing
> > the various code
> > plans.  It costs about $3 from Motorola Parts.
> >
> > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wireless Auto Patch

2005-12-04 Thread rrath
Mathew, just a thought here. Have him contact the cell company 
and offer them a place on his property to set up a cell tower. This 
would help him and the cell company - the company would make 
more money from more people being able to use their system in that 
area. Plus, the company can pay him for the use of his land. Just a 
thought.

Rod



Hmmm, well goes to show that our phone company here does 
not know all they claimed to know.  I have a customer that will 
just be over excited.  His problem is he lives in such an area 
that cell phone coverage is very poor, we put up an antenna, 
but then he his tied to a wire, which does not work well for a 
shop, not to mention that he is in a wheel chair.  I called three 
different carriers, and was told that there was no devices that 
would allow him to become unattached.  Although, last year 
they did mention the $600.00 repeater for cell service, not an 
option at that price.  Well now I can show him and I'm sure he 
will buy one to make life much easier.
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two-Tone Sequential Coding Standard

2005-12-04 Thread Bob M.
I think all we wanted to find out was the frequency
tolerance. Is that in the document? The general
concensus seemed to be well under 1 percent, just
based on the odd frequencies in use.

Bob M.
==
--- Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A week ago, there was an exchange of postings
> regarding the
> specifications of the two-tone sequential paging
> format.  After some
> searching of my Motorola archives, I found a
> document which I believe is
> the "Rosetta Stone" we seek.
> 
> It is Motorola Publication 6881103C80, entitled
> "Two-Tone Sequential
> Tone Coding."  This seven-page document includes the
> timing and
> deviation specifications, along with charts listing
> the various code
> plans.  It costs about $3 from Motorola Parts.
> 
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY



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[Repeater-Builder] Two-Tone Sequential Coding Standard

2005-12-04 Thread Eric Lemmon
A week ago, there was an exchange of postings regarding the
specifications of the two-tone sequential paging format.  After some
searching of my Motorola archives, I found a document which I believe is
the "Rosetta Stone" we seek.

It is Motorola Publication 6881103C80, entitled "Two-Tone Sequential
Tone Coding."  This seven-page document includes the timing and
deviation specifications, along with charts listing the various code
plans.  It costs about $3 from Motorola Parts.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 PL / DPL help

2005-12-04 Thread Ray Brown
- Original Message - 
From: "Maire-Radios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> there is the PL units and the DPL units   you can not mix them.  and only
> one tone per repeater.  also you don't need the rib.

  I got two questions on the R100. On the board that is attached to the lid, 
when you
unlock it and rotate it up, at the top edge, are spots for 3 switches. When 
Repeater
Disable is on, the LED on the corner lights up. I presume that that inhibits 
the entire
repeater. But there's a spot for PL disable (the switch is missing but there's 
evidence
that something was there). If a switch is installed and flipped on, will it 
disable the
PL / DPL ?

  And, I presume the big connector in the center of that same board is the 
connection
for "accessories" like a controller? I'd like to find how to connect something 
like an
ID-8 or maybe a NHRC-2 into it, mostly for Part 90 ID. :-)

  Thanks!

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000 Repeater Intermod

2005-12-04 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jim,

This IS interesting!  Just for grins, try disconnecting the external controller
and set up the MTR2000 as a repeater.  It's very important to set the activation
and hold-in options to "carrier and PL/DPL" as I mentioned in an earlier
posting.  I suspect that the external controller is bypassing the audio during
hang time, and allowing the rogue signal to enter.  If the symptom goes away
when the MTR2000 is operating autonomously, the problem lies in the external
controller or possibly the way it is connected.

Another thing to try is to set the TX Idle frequency away from the TX
frequency.  Try setting it to 144. MHz.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

"Jim, K8COP" wrote:

> Eric,
>
> I forgot to include that the station is used in the "base station
> configuration".  I have a CAT300DX hooked up to the station.  I checked the
> code plug information, and changed the setting to PL & DPL only.  It was set
> to carrier and PL & DPL.
>
> I am having the same problem with the signal coming in.
>
> Jim, K8COP
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000 Repeater Intermod
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > I'm quite familiar with the MTR2000, and have five of them in service.
> >
> > Since the rogue signal is received during the hang time, it must have a
> > 94.8 Hz
> > PL tone on it.  Unless... are you certain that your repeater was not left
> > in
> > carrier squelch during testing?
> >
> > Another possible cause is an incorrect repeater set-up.  Read the
> > station's
> > codeplug.  Then,
> >
> > 1.  Click on "Personality" in the toolbar
> > 2.  Click on "Channel Information" in the drop-down menu
> > 3.  Click on "Repeater" in the Option window
> > 4.  Select "Carrier & PL/DPL" for BOTH Analog Activation and Analog
> > Hold-in
> > 5.  Select "Off" for Analog Deactivation
> >
> > If the above steps do not alter the symptoms, please send me your *.pcf
> > file for
> > examination.
> >
> > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> >
> >
> > "Jim, K8COP" wrote:
> >
> >> We're experiencing a problem with our new Motorola MTR 2000 Repeater.
> >> The
> >> repeater is on 146.22/82.  PL of 94.8 Hz.  When a station is using the
> >> repeater, and just when they unkey, we end up with a signal that is on
> >> 155.490 (PL 107.2) comes through the receiver.  The 155.490 frequency is
> >> used by our local Law Enforcement Dispatch.  This does not happen every
> >> time,
> >> but intermittent.
> >> Their repeater is also a Motorola MTR 2000.  The repeaters are about 4 to
> >> five miles apart.  The Ham repeater has been totally checked out.  It has
> >> a
> >> new duplexer, intercabling, 7/8 hardline.  The 6 dB gain stationmaster
> >> antenna was not replaced.  The SWR was checked and is OK.
> >>
> >> I am open for ideas on this one.
> >>
> >> Jim Duram, K8COP
> >> Whitehall, MI.
> >>
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[Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000 Repeater Intermod

2005-12-04 Thread Jim, K8COP
Eric,

I forgot to include that the station is used in the "base station 
configuration".  I have a CAT300DX hooked up to the station.  I checked the 
code plug information, and changed the setting to PL & DPL only.  It was set 
to carrier and PL & DPL.

I am having the same problem with the signal coming in.

Jim, K8COP


- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000 Repeater Intermod


> Jim,
>
> I'm quite familiar with the MTR2000, and have five of them in service.
>
> Since the rogue signal is received during the hang time, it must have a 
> 94.8 Hz
> PL tone on it.  Unless... are you certain that your repeater was not left 
> in
> carrier squelch during testing?
>
> Another possible cause is an incorrect repeater set-up.  Read the 
> station's
> codeplug.  Then,
>
> 1.  Click on "Personality" in the toolbar
> 2.  Click on "Channel Information" in the drop-down menu
> 3.  Click on "Repeater" in the Option window
> 4.  Select "Carrier & PL/DPL" for BOTH Analog Activation and Analog 
> Hold-in
> 5.  Select "Off" for Analog Deactivation
>
> If the above steps do not alter the symptoms, please send me your *.pcf 
> file for
> examination.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
> "Jim, K8COP" wrote:
>
>> We're experiencing a problem with our new Motorola MTR 2000 Repeater. 
>> The
>> repeater is on 146.22/82.  PL of 94.8 Hz.  When a station is using the
>> repeater, and just when they unkey, we end up with a signal that is on
>> 155.490 (PL 107.2) comes through the receiver.  The 155.490 frequency is
>> used by our local Law Enforcement Dispatch.  This does not happen every 
>> time,
>> but intermittent.
>> Their repeater is also a Motorola MTR 2000.  The repeaters are about 4 to
>> five miles apart.  The Ham repeater has been totally checked out.  It has 
>> a
>> new duplexer, intercabling, 7/8 hardline.  The 6 dB gain stationmaster
>> antenna was not replaced.  The SWR was checked and is OK.
>>
>> I am open for ideas on this one.
>>
>> Jim Duram, K8COP
>> Whitehall, MI.
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Source for RF enclos

2005-12-04 Thread John J. Riddell
Hammond  Mfg.makes all kinds of these boxes:

http://www.hammondmfg.com/scpgDIEC.htm

They have an office in Buffalo. Their main plant is in Guelph Ont.

73 John VE3AMZ


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim, K8COP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Source for RF enclos


> Sounds good, I would be willing to try it, as I plan on using "n" 
> connectors.  Here is my e-mail address:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Source for RF enclos
> 
> 
> >I have used old Polyphasor surge suppressors for RF tight boxes, look at:
> >
> > http://www.polyphaser.com/kommerce_productdetail.aspx?item=IS-PT50HN
> >
> > These are 4.25" long, 2.25" wide and 1.25" deep outside dimensions.  They
> > are cast aluminum, so the inside dimensions will be less.  I can't find 
> > the
> > Hamtronics preamp I have, but I think it will fit inside.  The case has 2 
> > N
> > female connectors, one on each end.  I have a few of these around, you can
> > have one for the postage.
> >
> > 73, Joe, K1ike
> >
> > At 09:50 AM 12/1/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >>I have a Hamtronics LNP VHF Preselector  board.  I would like to install 
> >>it
> >>in a RF tight box.  Checked with Hamtronics and they have no such item and
> >>no advise as to where to find one.  I want to install the board in a metal
> >>box and have the antenna leads come out to two female N connectors, and a 
> >>12
> >>vdc through a feed-thru connector for power.  Their is no room to install 
> >>it
> >>within the receiver.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Jim, K8COP
> >
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[Repeater-Builder] Source for RF enclos

2005-12-04 Thread Jim, K8COP
Sounds good, I would be willing to try it, as I plan on using "n" 
connectors.  Here is my e-mail address:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Jim
- Original Message - 
From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Source for RF enclos


>I have used old Polyphasor surge suppressors for RF tight boxes, look at:
>
> http://www.polyphaser.com/kommerce_productdetail.aspx?item=IS-PT50HN
>
> These are 4.25" long, 2.25" wide and 1.25" deep outside dimensions.  They
> are cast aluminum, so the inside dimensions will be less.  I can't find 
> the
> Hamtronics preamp I have, but I think it will fit inside.  The case has 2 
> N
> female connectors, one on each end.  I have a few of these around, you can
> have one for the postage.
>
> 73, Joe, K1ike
>
> At 09:50 AM 12/1/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>>I have a Hamtronics LNP VHF Preselector  board.  I would like to install 
>>it
>>in a RF tight box.  Checked with Hamtronics and they have no such item and
>>no advise as to where to find one.  I want to install the board in a metal
>>box and have the antenna leads come out to two female N connectors, and a 
>>12
>>vdc through a feed-thru connector for power.  Their is no room to install 
>>it
>>within the receiver.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Jim, K8COP
>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: MORE CHEAPER REPEATER

2005-12-04 Thread Mike
Why don't someone configure one up and send it to the guy for a great
priceman we sure are spoiled in the USAIR will work for free on one if
someone has parts they can offer. I am very new at building but I can follow
instructions :). 

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Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:43 PM
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: MORE CHEAPER REPEATER

- Original Message -
From: "YY1CIR-RADIONAUTA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Repeater-Builder" 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: MORE CHEAPER REPEATER


| HI colleagues,
| looking for no simple answers but alternatives for build and install 
VHF/UHF
| repeaters in ham radio bands in our country.
|
| Wich could be the more cost-effective-cheap set up for oneway or
| bidirectional repeaters?
|
| Must be used or recovered equipment, 600 hz shift, no bells and whistles,
| battery backup included, homebrew or commercial surplus antenna system,
| sorry... no heliax.
|
| Why? only for reference, in our country a new system is for sale between
| 4000 to 1 US $. The medium salary is 200 US $ more or less...
| Can you figure out this unbalanced situation?
|
| In all country is no more than 8 repeaters in service now. 6 in VHF 2 in
| UHF.
|
| Thanks in advance for your responses. it may help to get choices.
|
| Carlos Ibarra, YY1CIR
| Maracaibo-Venezuela
| 
| YY1CIR -- RADIONAUTA
| +58+261 7540161
| +58+416 7643844 Movil
| Radio Voz
| VHF: FM 147.480 / 146.850 (-600)
| Packet BBS
| VHF: FM 145.010  
| VoIP
| VHF: FM 146.370 Echolink 
| Maracaibo, Venezuela
|
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Source for RF enclos

2005-12-04 Thread Joe
I have used old Polyphasor surge suppressors for RF tight boxes, look at:

http://www.polyphaser.com/kommerce_productdetail.aspx?item=IS-PT50HN

These are 4.25" long, 2.25" wide and 1.25" deep outside dimensions.  They 
are cast aluminum, so the inside dimensions will be less.  I can't find the 
Hamtronics preamp I have, but I think it will fit inside.  The case has 2 N 
female connectors, one on each end.  I have a few of these around, you can 
have one for the postage.

73, Joe, K1ike

At 09:50 AM 12/1/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a Hamtronics LNP VHF Preselector  board.  I would like to install it
>in a RF tight box.  Checked with Hamtronics and they have no such item and
>no advise as to where to find one.  I want to install the board in a metal
>box and have the antenna leads come out to two female N connectors, and a 12
>vdc through a feed-thru connector for power.  Their is no room to install it
>within the receiver.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim, K8COP







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wireless Auto Patch

2005-12-04 Thread Mathew Quaife



Right now they are about $500.00 for the one that I seen, the mobile unit is about $400.00, I have not done any research recently since we came up with the beam antenna.  It works, just that he has worn out umpteen connectors plugin' and unplugin'...  Will run this machine by him, I think he will be happy with that.     Mathew  Mike Mullarkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi Mathew,     You could try to do a passive antenna
 system & that would cost a whole lot less. The last time I purchased a cell extender they were not 600.00 but not sure what they recommended. I installed a passive system at a friends cabin in the cascades East of Eugene, OR and he has Nextel. He had 1 bar on his cell phone outside & could barley make a call so I installed a 800Mhg omni on the roof and a Larson stub antenna inside and he has all but 1 bar on his cell phone. Just as a note where he had the 1 bar on his phone was 32ft on the peak of the roof.     Mike   Oregon Repeater Linking Group  Mike Mullarkey  6539 E Street  Springfield, OR 97478  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  www.orlg.org        -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Mathew QuaifeSent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 4:48 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wireless Auto Patch   Hmmm, well goes to show that our phone company here does not know all they claimed to know.  I have a customer that will just be over excited.  His problem is he lives in such an area that cell phone coverage is very poor, we put up an antenna, but then he his tied to a wire, which does not work well for a shop, not to mention that he is in a wheel chair.  I called three different carriers, and was told that there was no devices that would allow him to become unattached.  Although, last year they did mention the $600.00 repeater for cell service, not an option at that price.  Well now I can show him and I'm sure he will buy one to make life much easier. MathewCoy Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Mathew,These things in general have been on the market sence before 1995. I was a hardware and software design engineer for a well known alarm company back then and we had a product that would do the same thing for the Motorola "bag phone" One
 could use the bag phone as a secondary "phone line" in case the primary phone line went down for any reason.Coy--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mathew Quaife <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> Very interesting, wonder how long this has been on the market? I was told about a year ago that it could not be done? As we learn something new each day. A very interesting product, could come in handy for a lot of my people whom are tied to a wire due to the coverage in their area. Thanks for pointing that out.> > Mathew> > > Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Tim Horvath wrote:> > I have a repeater in a remote aera with no phone service. Can I use a > > Cell Phone and interface it to my cat-1000 controller? If so How? I > > want it to receive and send calls. Thanks, Tim> > If your CAT-1000 controller has a regular autopatch on it, something >
 like this might be useful:> > http://www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp> > There are a few companies making these, and they're popular in Europe > where many people don't bother having a land-line phone anymore -- they > just drop the cell in one of these when they get home.> > Never tried it myself, but looks like it would work fine, if the cell > coverage is good at your repeater site.> > Nate WY0X> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > > > > > > > > -> Yahoo! Personals> Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet.> Lots of someones, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals> > -> Yahoo! Personals> Let fate take it's course directly to your email.> See who's waiting for you
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[Repeater-Builder] Fw: MORE CHEAPER REPEATER

2005-12-04 Thread YY1CIR-RADIONAUTA
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From: "YY1CIR-RADIONAUTA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Repeater-Builder" 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: MORE CHEAPER REPEATER


| HI colleagues,
| looking for no simple answers but alternatives for build and install 
VHF/UHF
| repeaters in ham radio bands in our country.
|
| Wich could be the more cost-effective-cheap set up for oneway or
| bidirectional repeaters?
|
| Must be used or recovered equipment, 600 hz shift, no bells and whistles,
| battery backup included, homebrew or commercial surplus antenna system,
| sorry... no heliax.
|
| Why? only for reference, in our country a new system is for sale between
| 4000 to 1 US $. The medium salary is 200 US $ more or less...
| Can you figure out this unbalanced situation?
|
| In all country is no more than 8 repeaters in service now. 6 in VHF 2 in
| UHF.
|
| Thanks in advance for your responses. it may help to get choices.
|
| Carlos Ibarra, YY1CIR
| Maracaibo-Venezuela
| 
| YY1CIR -- RADIONAUTA
| +58+261 7540161
| +58+416 7643844 Movil
| Radio Voz
| VHF: FM 147.480 / 146.850 (-600)
| Packet BBS
| VHF: FM 145.010  
| VoIP
| VHF: FM 146.370 Echolink 
| Maracaibo, Venezuela
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wireless Auto Patch

2005-12-04 Thread Ronny Julian
Is this for repeater control?  Or for voice autopatch?  If it is for the 
former I may have a solution.  Write me off list.
Ronny K4RJJ


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Look up Tellular, they have cell phones specificly designd for what you  
>are wanting to do. but be prepared for the sticker shock as they are not  
>subsidised by the carrier and also are for a specialised market.
>
>Stan
>
>
>On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:40:30 -0600, Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Tim,
>>
>>Several burglar alarm manufacturers offer a duplex wireless link that is
>>essentially the guts of a bare-bones cellular phone in a metal box with  
>>all
>>of the audio and control lines brought out to a connector.  Such devices
>>are similar in concept to the "data radios" that are used in SCADA  
>>systems,
>>and which incorporate a single-channel circuit board normally used in a
>>portable radio.
>>
>>ENG journalists use a similar device to send taped interview audio back  
>>to
>>the studio when it's impractical to elevate the link antenna from a  
>>remote
>>truck.  Distributors of broadcasting equipment carry several versions of
>>this link radio.
>>
>>Finally, the vendors of automatic vehicle location systems use
>>off-the-shelf cellular link radios to periodically send and receive
>>location and assignment data.  Although most of these radios carry  
>>digital
>>data, the ones I have seen are also available in models that handle  
>>two-way
>>voice.
>>
>>73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Tim Horvath wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>I have a repeater in a remote area with no phone service.  Can I use a
>>>cell phone and interface it to my CAT-1000 controller?  If so, how?  I
>>>want it to receive and send calls.  Thanks, Tim
>>>  
>>>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wireless Auto Patch

2005-12-04 Thread Mike Mullarkey










Hi Mathew,

 

You could try to do a passive antenna
system & that would cost a whole lot less. The last time I purchased a cell
extender they were not 600.00 but not sure what they recommended. I installed a
passive system at a friends cabin in the cascades East of Eugene, OR and he has
Nextel. He had 1 bar on his cell phone outside & could barley make a call so
I installed a 800Mhg omni on the roof and a Larson stub antenna inside and he
has all but 1 bar on his cell phone. Just as a note where he had the 1 bar on
his phone was 32ft on the peak of the roof.

 

Mike

 



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-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Quaife
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005
4:48 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]
Re: Wireless Auto Patch

 



Hmmm, well goes to show that our phone company here
does not know all they claimed to know.  I have a customer that will just
be over excited.  His problem is he lives in such an area that cell phone
coverage is very poor, we put up an antenna, but then he his tied to a wire,
which does not work well for a shop, not to mention that he is in a wheel
chair.  I called three different carriers, and was told that there was no
devices that would allow him to become unattached.  Although, last year
they did mention the $600.00 repeater for cell service, not an option at that
price.  Well now I can show him and I'm sure he will buy one to make life
much easier.





 





Mathew







Coy Hilton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Mathew,
These things in general have been on the market sence before 1995. I 
was a hardware and software design engineer for a well known alarm 
company back then and we had a product that would do the same thing 
for the Motorola "bag phone" One could use the bag phone as a 
secondary "phone line" in case the primary phone line went down for 
any reason.
Coy


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mathew Quaife 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> Very interesting, wonder how long this has been on the market? I 
was told about a year ago that it could not be done? As we learn 
something new each day. A very interesting product, could come in 
handy for a lot of my people whom are tied to a wire due to the 
coverage in their area. Thanks for pointing that out.
> 
> Mathew
> 
> 
> Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Tim Horvath wrote:
> > I have a repeater in a remote aera with no phone service. Can I 
use a 
> > Cell Phone and interface it to my cat-1000 controller? If so 
How? I 
> > want it to receive and send calls. Thanks, Tim
> 
> If your CAT-1000 controller has a regular autopatch on it, 
something 
> like this might be useful:
> 
> http://www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp
> 
> There are a few companies making these, and they're popular in 
Europe 
> where many people don't bother having a land-line phone anymore -- 
they 
> just drop the cell in one of these when they get home.
> 
> Never tried it myself, but looks like it would work fine, if the 
cell 
> coverage is good at your repeater site.
> 
> Nate WY0X
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wireless Auto Patch

2005-12-04 Thread ka5iid

Look up Tellular, they have cell phones specificly designd for what you  
are wanting to do. but be prepared for the sticker shock as they are not  
subsidised by the carrier and also are for a specialised market.

Stan


On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:40:30 -0600, Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Several burglar alarm manufacturers offer a duplex wireless link that is
> essentially the guts of a bare-bones cellular phone in a metal box with  
> all
> of the audio and control lines brought out to a connector.  Such devices
> are similar in concept to the "data radios" that are used in SCADA  
> systems,
> and which incorporate a single-channel circuit board normally used in a
> portable radio.
>
> ENG journalists use a similar device to send taped interview audio back  
> to
> the studio when it's impractical to elevate the link antenna from a  
> remote
> truck.  Distributors of broadcasting equipment carry several versions of
> this link radio.
>
> Finally, the vendors of automatic vehicle location systems use
> off-the-shelf cellular link radios to periodically send and receive
> location and assignment data.  Although most of these radios carry  
> digital
> data, the ones I have seen are also available in models that handle  
> two-way
> voice.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
>> Tim Horvath wrote:
>
>> I have a repeater in a remote area with no phone service.  Can I use a
>> cell phone and interface it to my CAT-1000 controller?  If so, how?  I
>> want it to receive and send calls.  Thanks, Tim
>
>
>
>
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>
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[Repeater-Builder] I Know This is a repeater Group But ...

2005-12-04 Thread Norbert
I would greatly appreciate some assistance.

I have a Kenwood HT  TH-78 and I forgot how to switch it into 
ALPHANUMERIC MODE.

Please help !

73s,

Norbert
KC7PCE

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wireless Auto Patch

2005-12-04 Thread Mathew Quaife



Hmmm, well goes to show that our phone company here does not know all they claimed to know.  I have a customer that will just be over excited.  His problem is he lives in such an area that cell phone coverage is very poor, we put up an antenna, but then he his tied to a wire, which does not work well for a shop, not to mention that he is in a wheel chair.  I called three different carriers, and was told that there was no devices that would allow him to become unattached.  Although, last year they did mention the $600.00 repeater for cell service, not an option at that price.  Well now I can show him and I'm sure he will buy one to make life much easier.     Mathew  Coy Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Mathew,These things in general have been on the market sence before 1995. I
 was a hardware and software design engineer for a well known alarm company back then and we had a product that would do the same thing for the Motorola "bag phone" One could use the bag phone as a secondary "phone line" in case the primary phone line went down for any reason.Coy--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mathew Quaife <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> Very interesting, wonder how long this has been on the market? I was told about a year ago that it could not be done? As we learn something new each day. A very interesting product, could come in handy for a lot of my people whom are tied to a wire due to the coverage in their area. Thanks for pointing that out.> > Mathew> > > Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Tim Horvath wrote:> > I have a repeater in a remote aera with no phone service. Can I use a > > Cell Phone and interface it to my cat-1000
 controller? If so How? I > > want it to receive and send calls. Thanks, Tim> > If your CAT-1000 controller has a regular autopatch on it, something > like this might be useful:> > http://www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp> > There are a few companies making these, and they're popular in Europe > where many people don't bother having a land-line phone anymore -- they > just drop the cell in one of these when they get home.> > Never tried it myself, but looks like it would work fine, if the cell > coverage is good at your repeater site.> > Nate WY0X> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > > > > > > > > -> Yahoo! Personals> Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet.> Lots of someones, actually.
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